WEBVTT - Severance Season 2 Episode 10: Cold Harbor 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.560 Worrying today's episode could take spoilers for the finale of 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:25.840 sever and season two, Cold Cold Harbor. Hello, what it is? 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:30.159 Jason GETSPSI and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.080 x Ray Vision of the podcast where we dive p Dear, 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.600 Raver Jones, Movies, Collin's Above, Culture, coverany You from Myra 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.520 podcast where we're bringing you three episodes a week every Tuesday, Wednesday, 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.480 and Thursday, plus news on the weekends. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:49.040 In today's episode, we are talking about Subern's finale, Cold Harbor. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:50.800 Did you find out what Cold Opera is? 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:51.280 I don't know. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.479 It's up for debate, but we'll be debating it. We're 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.240 gonna recap the finale, We're gonna talk about off theories, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.400 We're gonna talk about where it leads us in the 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.520 newly an out season three. And also, remember, guys, programming notes, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.240 if you want to be involved in book club, if 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:06.880 you haven't done it yet, it feels too much of 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.200 a big lift. We are doing a single issue for 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.600 our next book Club. It is Thunderbolts Issue one by 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.440 Kat Buziak and Mark Bagley, and you are going to 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.040 be shocked and surprised when you read that comic So remember, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.120 get it from Marvel Unlimited, get it from your local library, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.200 get it from your local comic shop. That's going to 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:25.080 be our next book. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:33.600 Club Severance, Season two, episode ten, the finale, we pick 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:38.440 up right after the events of episode nine. We are 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:44.320 at the Berthing Cabin. Rosie Cobel is confronting any Mark 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:45.520 about Cold Harbor? 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.800 Did you finish it? Did you finish it? Cold Harbor? 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.680 And he hasn't finished it, meaning Jemma is still alive. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:02:01.440 Cobel is relieved. Any Mark then admits that, oh, we 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.000 know where the elevator is. Because Cobel is kind of explaining, Okay, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.480 there's gonna be this elevator going down and it's this 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.800 dark elevator at the end of this twisty set of hallways. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.639 He said, oh yeah, yeah, we know about it from 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:18.560 Irving's drawings. Meanwhile, in Mdr Helly is at her workstation. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:23.720 When who should walk in but her Audie's father, James 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:30.320 Joe Biden asked raspy, weak voice, he. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:36.040 Said, he says, oh, what a funny speech you get. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.440 The other event the other night, did I drink a lot? 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:47.840 Oh? So cross at you throw a dinner candy so mad, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.680 and then he comes and closed and he says, you 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:55.320 know what, my daughter, you're audi. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:55.560 I don't really love her. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.640 Oh my god, dude, seriously, this is like my worst 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.799 nightmare because I'm like, you know what, Dad's they never 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.200 been doing a lot for me. And imagine this. Imagine 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.680 if your dad's talking to like a fake budgeon of 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.639 you that was just made to be inside a shop. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.280 And then he's telling that person, He's like, I don't 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.200 love that outside door. I you know you're bad because 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.560 you I can control you can't leave, Like come on, man. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:26.240 Like I don't I don't love her, and he says that. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.359 He then says very creepily, as has been suggested over 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.560 the course of many episodes episode Others in the Shadows, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:39.720 which is like, okay, a bad person, and he says 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.440 that the reason he doesn't love his daughter Helena anymore 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.800 is she no longer reflects here. She thought he thought 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:53.280 he saw cure in her, but then now as she 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:58.680 grew up, he doesn't. And then Helly he comes in closer, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.200 and Helly like picks up a and she's like ready 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.760 to fucking like she's going John wa like fucking Jason 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.520 Board like like in the jugular with the points, probably 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.400 just the ball pen. She probably should have done it, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:17.520 and he he goes, that's here. I see it in you. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.680 I see here in you. And I think the implication 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.560 for season three, and something we've discussed in this as 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.880 we've covered this, is he might be thinking, let's bust 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.880 out Helene, let's bust out helly R, turn her into 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.599 the Audi, because I see here in her, and let 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.640 just that's my daughter. Now we'll put Helena elsewhere and 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.839 just won't ever turn her on again, and that's gonna 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.720 be Maybe you're maybe your INNI is now your Audi. WHOA, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.279 Maybe that's what he's thinking about. 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.320 I do think as well, because I like, and I'll 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.080 just go like your kind of idea that helly R 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.480 is the real Helena, right, that's like her prime personality. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.760 And I think there's something incredibly bleak and incredibly severance 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.200 about the idea that he can basically just decide which 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.240 version of her he wants, and we actually have no 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.360 idea how many times she has been severed, how many 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.760 versions of her there bra When he talked about birthing 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.200 others in the shadows, obviously we know he's been doing 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.520 his weird like buffing cabin shit. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.960 But I was also like to different, we can only 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.039 imagine this sexual assault. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.000 Happening like sexual assault happening in the cabin. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:36.320 Back in the cabin, the negotiation between any Mark and 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.880 the conspirators Kobel, Audie, Mark, and Devin begins. Cobell tells 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.000 any Mark that you're gonna need to here's the plan. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.400 You're gonna go down to MDR. Then you're gonna look 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.359 for the elevator. You're gonna go down. You're gonna go 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.800 to the test floor, where you'll become your audi. Audie 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.000 Mark will take it over from there. He will get 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.360 Gemma Gemma. He will get Gemma on the elevator, at 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.880 which point you will take back over right and she 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.920 will be miss Casey and then you're going to get 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.239 her to the stairwell and you will both escape. Okay, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.360 how does that sound? And any Mark is like that 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.799 sounds pretty good. What happens to me? And then Devon 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.440 is like listen, And then I think if they're I 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.440 don't want to lay all the blame for this at 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.200 the feet of Devon. I think this is a Cobel 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.080 plot which I will lay I agree, but like Devin 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.720 and Audi, Mark will handle this conversation in exactly the 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.760 wrong way, and Devin says exactly the wrong thing. She says, well, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.320 you know, when Jemma is rescued, we can end Lumen, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.600 which Adie Mark receives as I'm dead. So you want 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:42.359 me to die? 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:43.240 Unastoundable. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.560 You want me to give my life to save the 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:50.080 wife of my Audi, who I don't know is and 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.839 all my friends are gonna die, like is so? Is 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.359 that what you're saying? And so this proves to be 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.240 a pretty a pretty huge point of contention. So then 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:03.000 Audie Mark takes over and they play him a recording 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:08.200 of Audie Mark, and Audie Mark, for his part, I think, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.640 does not realize how insanely condescending he is sounding. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.280 Oh he's so. I was like I was watching this shit, 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.360 and I was like, I would not be doing it, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:22.560 like I would say, buck OUTI Mark like he is 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.240 the kind I think. Something that's really interesting here is 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:29.880 kind of the the supremacy issues that we run into here, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.160 of the idea of like who is the prime personality, 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.200 who is the real person that that we that kind 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.680 of has the definitive choice over what's going on in severance, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:45.320 whether it's any other aUI, whether it's a collaboration. And look, Jason, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.080 you got to tell them what you would do, because 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:48.760 you're right. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.400 Well let's get there. Let's so basically it goes back 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.880 and forth, and it goes very poorly for Audie Mark, right, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.200 any Mark doesn't want to do it. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.880 There's he doesn't have the juice, he can't lie outing. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.200 Well, here's the issue. It's like the ego death card, right, yeah, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:08.239 you're not arguing with Audie Mark's problem is he thinks 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.600 that he's arguing with this like more simplistic, naive, more 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.920 childlike version of himself, when in fact, he's arguing with 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:22.880 himself just as smart, just as driven, just as like 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.320 dedicated to the things that he cares about as Audi 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:31.360 Mark is. And so here's what I listen, here's I 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.440 think Cobel personally. If I have a theory, it's that 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.960 Kobel wants to tear down Lumen and make as much 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:44.800 chaos as possible. And because of that, she didn't really 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.640 like she knows a lot obviously about the Severn's process. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.920 And I think she and she deals with several people 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.680 all the time innies and outies. She should have coached 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.800 both Devin and Mark. Okay, here's what we have to 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.679 say that because who's lied until the it needs more 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.640 than fucking Cobell. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.640 Literally, because the only way. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.840 To get the only way to get any Mark to 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:06.800 do this is to lie. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.800 You have you have to lie to him. You have 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.880 to be like, we can both exist. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.960 You gotta yeah, and you're not gonna die. Reintegration, this 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.040 was your idea. Hey, what you might have seen the 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.120 flashes Audi Mark says like of the reintegration, Yeah, it's 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.440 a cool process. We're gonna get to both be together 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.480 as the same person. I would have said, oh uh, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.240 they're gonna split usup. We're gonna be changing. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.400 They know how to get people up. They know that 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:32.640 it's gonna l us off. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.560 And you're gonna be yours and you're gonna do your 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.280 own thing fully planning to get my wife back and 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.720 then never turn the son of a bitch on ever again. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.240 Also as well, you know what else I think is 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.079 like and that's not Jason's moral judgment. That's just Jason's 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.640 correct judgment of how Autemoc would have had to play this. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.120 But like I also think I I love the writing 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.199 in this because suddenly you know this whole time you've 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.840 kind of been told to like root for out a mock. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.560 But then you do realize in this interaction like he 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.480 is no better than anyone else who thinks an any 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.760 is less than himself, you know. And I think they 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.440 do such a good job, such a heartbreaking job. And 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.520 you see this is the moment where he deeply fucks 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.560 up when he says, I hear that you're in love 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:20.760 with someone too, like. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:26.880 Helene, and I'm like, bro not heleneying of course, when 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:32.079 when Helena comes to Mark at the Chinese restaurant and 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.120 purposely gets his wife's wrong wife's name wrong. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.960 Yeah, And in that moment you just see like any 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.080 marks like, oh, this guy doesn't give up because like 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.480 he's like he doesn't care about me, He's not interested 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.959 in anything to do with my life. I also do 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:52.199 think he makes a good point, which is essentially like, well, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.160 why haven't you done this before? Like why don't didn't 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.800 you care about my interior life before? And now it's 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.000 just about saving your wife. And they literally are in 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.719 a situation where Alimark is showing you can communicate with 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.040 your any like you can do it, Like he could 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.400 have shown this interest before he could, but he didn't 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.160 because now it's about saving Gemma and that's what he 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.480 cares about. And honestly, I am a saved Gema. I'm 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.200 on the save Gema standpoint. I do. I found this 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:29.600 episode very hard to watch, but yeah, it in this mode. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:36.600 Autie Mark sucks so much as I mean, this is 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.800 a show about I think systems and not this is 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.080 it's about the effect of systems on people. And this 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.800 is a system that sets people up to be antagonists. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.320 And no matter how much you want to cooperate, and 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:54.319 no matter how much you believe you have shared interests 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.800 that would create a space through which you could cooperate, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.760 you can't because you're on this side and you're on 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:00.000 the other. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.360 That's a fantastic point. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:05.880 Personally, And you know, I think that there is obviously 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.400 innies are oppressed, and there's just a lot of philosophical 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.240 ways to think about this. Like I think any person 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.720 who was dealing who was dealing with what Audi Mark 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.319 was dealing with, would think, I'm gonna lie to this 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.559 fucking inny and then I'm gonna kill him as soon 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.719 as I get my wife back, which I desperately need 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.400 to do. And I don't believe that it's possible as 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.600 an AUDI to think of a piece of yourself as 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.719 a person. I think that there is probably some kind 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.760 ofsophical barrier that would not let you do that. While 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.720 if you step back, I think it's clear that the 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.200 Inneyes are people. There are a lot of There's just 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.440 so many. I mean I said this previously. I think 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.520 that there is like a space to think about innis 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:59.600 and audis in the language of choice, meaning by which 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:04.079 I mean to say, if I choose with my body 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.960 to create another consciousness that's a version of me inside 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:17.480 my body, then I can also kill that consciousness because 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.560 it's me and I created it in my body, and 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.800 I created it, and I created it. No, you know, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.199 no face, no case, as they say, there's no body, 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:26.520 there's no client, it's me. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.320 And there's no weapon because you're just handing it off. No. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.160 I don't agree with that fully, but I think that 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.319 that's an argument that wants me. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.080 I think it's a very interesting philosophical argument. And I 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.200 have to say as well, like watching this show has 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.240 made me consider like when I used to work in 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.280 I used to work in a bar that was part 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.040 of a cinema, and I would work there and then 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.240 we would go to other places afterwards and we would 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.559 work behind bars and do like contract bartending. And when 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.080 I think about it, I'm like, wow, that Rosie was 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.360 really going through it just so Rosie at home could 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.520 just like lay in her bed and pay her rent. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.440 And I'm like, wait a minute, this is actually far 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.000 more of a direct line to the kind of way 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.240 we experience work in an analogous sense than it is 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.200 like some crazy fictional idea. Like I actually think that 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.840 when you start breaking up the way that your life works, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.840 especially if you have to work in like a service job, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.240 you almost do live outside of your experiences at work. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.359 And a lot of times, I have to be honest, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.360 being out e Rosie laying in the bed, it wasn't 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.440 great because I was tired and I was hungover, and 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.200 I wasn't getting the experiences of you know that Mark 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.920 gets with this disconnection. So I just think this show, 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.600 I think that is the true success so this show, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.360 because I think we do need to talk about like 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.240 the success of the finale and whether it works for people, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.640 whether it doesn't. But I think the true success of 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.480 the show is it really does capture these conversations about 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.360 work and workers and systems and corporations and how we 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.680 kind of split our lives up to exist within them. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.280 But then obviously in this case, it adds like a 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.480 physical element to it and an emotional element that I 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:11.320 think we really get into as our Ema kind of 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.600 showcases his his kind of lack of respect or his 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:17.400 lack of a plan. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.720 But again, I lay this again at Cobel's feet, who 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.320 gave them absolutely no guidance on how to talk to 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:30.360 any's twenty minute autie. Mark is in a severely emotional state, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.560 as you would expect obvious, and I don't think he's 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.840 in any state to carry on a negotiation with Why 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.520 did he have a script or something? 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.160 And I feel like she could have written him a script. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.480 So the negotiation goes terribly, goes off the rails. Cobell 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.280 is like, tap me in, I'll deal with it, which 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.920 should have been the first thing. Cobel goes in and 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.840 is like, here's what's going on. The MDR numbers are 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.320 windows into Jemma's mind. You've been severing her lots of times, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.560 like each each time you finish a location that is 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:02.560 a version of herself that you've created that's severed, and 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.400 he's like, oh my god, I severed her twenty four times. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.200 He's like, yeah, that's fucking crazy. And then Cobel says 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:12.200 gives him some like hard medicine and says, listen, forget 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:12.840 the helly shit. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.080 She's an ain't gonna happen. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.920 It's never going to happen, which she's probably right, but 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.880 I don't know if this is the correct tactic to 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:28.040 take either. Definitely not, because any Mark fully rejects us 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.080 and says, listen, I'm not talking anymore. The next thing 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.680 I want to see is the Severn floor, and we 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.600 cut immediately to the Severn floor and he's there. Anie 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.480 Mark is staring at a brand new mural in the 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.960 classic cure style, which I would describe as like nineteenth century, 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:48.400 like Antebellum. It looks like something either that it like 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.040 a style that you would do a mural of, like 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.920 John Brown in or something in the Denver Airport. And 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.600 it shows Mark compleating cold at his desk, completing Cold 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.800 Harbor in front of like the waterfall by the orp Bow, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.840 and all the employees are there, and the board is 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.560 standing at the top of the waterfall looking on and 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.800 Helly comes out. They embrace. They go to MDR where 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.280 they find like a animatronic jame Egan, like from the 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.040 Hall of Presidents. Yes, and he's holding your card and 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.240 they open the car and it's a card from Miltchik 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.920 that announces, Hey, congratulations, party in your honor. As soon 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.680 as you're done with Cold Harbor, Mark gets to work. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.719 He and Helly start talking about everything that's going on. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.560 Helly is like, oh my god, it was so weird, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.680 Like jame Egan was down here talking about what a 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.160 special day it was and something's happening, and Mark's like, yeah, 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.960 I know what it is because of this out of 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.000 the cabin. Meanwhile, Miltchik goes to see Dylan because Audi 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:54.199 Dylan is like, I'll let you quit, but like we 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.280 need to have a talk first. So basically filled out 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:01.200 a whole questionnaire that inny Dylan is going to have 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.159 to deal with and read. So Miltchik presents him with 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.520 it and basically it says like, Hey, I'm mad at 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.560 you for fucking my wife, but also like I'm glad 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.600 that this more confident and loving an empathic part of 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.600 me exists, and so if you want to quit and 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.359 your existence, that's fine with me. But like I'm also 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:22.760 like down to keep going. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.840 With very emotionally mature response from aUI Dylan in a 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.600 way that out Emarch and Inimac are struggling to be 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.240 this episode, I loved this reveal for Dylan. I thought 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.719 it was actually very kind and very in character, and 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.520 I love the line where he's basically like, I hope 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.480 that one day she sees me like how she saw you. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.040 I thought that was great, and then that obviously inspires 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.560 Dylan to kind of go on the journey he goes 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.000 on for the rest of this episode. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:19:08.520 Yeah, we go down to the test floor where Jemma 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.320 is presented with her outfit for the day, and it's 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.240 the outfit she was wearing when she last left the 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.240 house and last saw Mark, and she was linking to 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.800 this fake party that she was going to. You can 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:26.359 tell that she recognizes it. Helly basically tells Mark at 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:31.639 MDR that, oh, yeah, you should reintegrate. You should do 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.600 that and then and then you should like be with 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.359 your wife. And then he's like, what I want to 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:44.680 be with you and Helly's like, you know, I am 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.320 suggesting basically that the Helena version is not the true version. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.080 She's like, I am me Dad, Like I am I 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:51.600 am her. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.640 And then they have this really cute talk about where 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.720 they go if they could be together. They settled on 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.840 the equator, which it's unclear if they. 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.000 Know, I don't know what it is that like, is 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.600 it a building, is it a continent? Is it a 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.159 building so big you'd confuse it with a continent, Like 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.679 it's very clear that they have no idea what's going 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:10.480 on outside of living. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:15.200 Then there's this interesting moment where Helly and Mark both 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.280 complete the file, like she shares it with him, like 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.119 she puts his hand over his as he's moving the 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.000 numbers around. Does this mean that she can also feel 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:28.280 the emotions from the numbers or unclear, but Mark finishes 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:34.240 with Helly's hand on his wonderful the Chicago Bulls theme 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:39.720 plays and the animatronic Jam comes alive and introduces the 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.359 floor manager, mister Milchick, and then they have like this 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.720 kind of roast, this very corporate roast battle that you 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:52.440 can tell is awkward emotionally because both Milchick and Jame 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.440 animatronic Jame are taking it a a little too seriously, 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:00.080 like they're really throwing haymakers at each other, and it 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:05.479 and it culminates in Milchik basically calling here like a 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.960 short bit. He's like, you about that, your animate your 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.000 animatronic version is six inches taller than you, and so 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.800 what about that, shorty. And then there's just like a 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.080 very tepid applause, and. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.480 Then nobody's doing nobody's doing candlef that anymore. And also 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:29.639 then Jaime calls him, He's like, okay, seth. 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:34.520 At which point Milchick announces that it's time for some 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.199 of the employees down here on the severed wing that 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:41.400 we have never seen in the choreography and Merriment department 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:46.560 to come in and celebrate Mark's achievement. And it's a marching, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:51.960 full marching band, which Miltchick then leads in marching band celebrations. 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:56.800 As you know, Helena and Mark look on very very confused. Meanwhile, 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.480 down on the test floor, Gemma is taken a cold harbor, 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:06.560 which is her having to disassemble the crib a crib 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.080 and I guess feel like no grief or emotion at all. 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.359 She's a complete new produce. She doesn't know who she 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.800 is in there, She just knows she has to disassemble this. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.200 I want to say this is we were right for Jason, 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:24.679 because you did basically call it early on that the 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.080 that the concept of what Severance was doing was essentially 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.120 like eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, Like they want 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:32.760 to live a pain They want to create a world 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.760 where life is painless, where you don't have to remember anything, 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.440 and a big part like. 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.480 So Jamee and the Cures can just have their pick 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.000 of sexual assault victim. 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:51.040 Basically, I'm assuming that the idea is like other rich 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.480 people could sever their employees do whatever they want to them. 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.680 And I mean, this is a question we'll talk about later, 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.840 but I'm also interested, like do you have to have 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:06.040 an emotional connection to the person us evering on that floor, 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:07.840 Like that's why I want to know It's. 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:12.320 Like, that's why the that's why the Helena handover Mark's 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.239 hand thing is interesting to me. But I think that 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.440 is the suggestion, right and which leads We'll have more 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.199 conversation about this later, but I personally think that I 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.439