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Speaker 1: fucking care. They didn't play against each other. What makes

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Speaker 1: for twenty one years at the highest level. Yeah, Lebron's

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Speaker 1: averaged twenty five or more for twenty straight years. We're

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Speaker 1: fucking nitpicking a lot of times. We're comparing errors. Like

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Speaker 1: this to be controversial. Michael Jordan. During his heyday, six

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Speaker 1: teams were added to the NBA. They were ninety players

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Speaker 1: league for a little bit is going to be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew a pig, big big, I'm pulling away.

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Speaker 2: I done a big, big big sang it again. I

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Speaker 2: do a big, big big, I'm pulling away. I knew

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Speaker 2: a big, big big Sang it again. I knew a big, big,

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Speaker 2: big big, Say it again, I do big.

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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 3: What is good? How you live and how you feel

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Speaker 3: and how you're doing.

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Speaker 4: Welcome again back to the Big Podcast with Shaq, where Shack.

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Speaker 3: We always do it big, my man.

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Speaker 4: See he's prepared because our guest today is always on

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Speaker 3: Shack, may I use the voice to introduce our guests?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you may use the voice. Actually no, no, two

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Speaker 5: white guys here, let me see your brother voice, my brother,

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Speaker 5: your New York Brooklyn brother voice. All right.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to the long ball, there's not too

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Speaker 4: many better he could be in the desert. He makes

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Speaker 4: it rain in any weather, from the court to the mic,

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Speaker 4: deadly like a black widow amongst all the B ball heads.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the true sickos. His broadcasting career is

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Speaker 4: reaching another orbit. It's honor to welcome the head coach

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Speaker 4: of the I'm not gonna say it, J. J.

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Speaker 3: Reddick up in the house today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Shack, you're all nice and professional with the glasses.

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Speaker 3: I think JJ's got you ready.

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Speaker 5: Man, Yes, sir, So let's get right to it. JJ.

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Speaker 1: I was really I was really wondering what word he

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Speaker 1: was going to rhyme with orbit?

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, and what rhymedd is orbit?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, uh appreciate you laying out on that one, Adam,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you laying out on that one.

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Speaker 5: So what did you think of the games last night?

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Speaker 1: Playoff Basketball? Playoff Basketball? I thought, even going back to

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, New Orleans, Oklahoma City, everybody complains about like

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Speaker 1: we obviously saw a huge difference in physicality post All

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Speaker 1: Star Break, and people will complain about that. If you

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Speaker 1: all my hold on My only thing is let's be consistent.

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Speaker 1: It's my one complaint.

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Speaker 5: You think what we're watching has real physical real physicality?

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Speaker 5: Did it? I'm gonna quote my good friend JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 5: These dudes are playing against plumbers and electricians.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question I have for you. Yes, why why

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Speaker 1: are you such a hater?

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Speaker 5: First of all, I'm not a hater.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not a hater. This is this is how

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Speaker 5: I think. And you were in this category. If they

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Speaker 5: couldn't play with us, they can't play with us. I'm

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Speaker 5: how I look at it. Could they have played with us?

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Speaker 5: Because like when I came in, you know, they always

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Speaker 1: What do you think you're talking about centers.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about us, like the real physicality, like the

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, I've tried to clarify this

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Speaker 1: So if you go play a game and you go

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Speaker 1: complaining about an and one right, that is gameplay. Build

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Speaker 1: amber clotheslining someone that is a flagrant foul. That's physicality, right,

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Speaker 5: I know you watch me play. You all used to

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Speaker 1: There's certain well would you not agree though, there's certain

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Speaker 1: don't think refs. Let me see, I had a tough

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Speaker 1: But it just depends on no paying talents. Whatever the

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Speaker 1: not saying it's right. Yea, yeah, I'm not saying it's right.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that the referees they're they're they're humans, right, right,

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Speaker 1: So whether it's you or Shack like or you were

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he doesn't really play physical.

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Speaker 1: In the in the post, they let him, they let

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Speaker 5: Well, you're supposed to about a guy like see And

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Speaker 5: I think we have different definitions of physical. Like the

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Speaker 5: And that's how I look at physical, Like the nineties

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Speaker 5: but I've always judge it with them.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not being clear what I'm talking about. And

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Speaker 1: that those Pistons teams in two thousands of Rashid and

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Speaker 1: three games. There's a there's a difference in that for

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Speaker 5: So aw, things go in the Celtics, the Bucks or

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Speaker 5: the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: I'm a terrible prognosticator. I gotta be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: Who do I think? Yeah, who do you think?

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Speaker 1: I think? I think the Celtics, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: but the addition of Christops Porzingis Drew Holliday as well.

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Speaker 5: I like the Celtics, but I don't because with most teams,

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Speaker 5: they rely on the three ball. If they don't shoot

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Speaker 5: I don't really see him going to that plan B. Listen,

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Speaker 5: they've not shot the three ball well in a lot

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Speaker 5: of games, and they still have that enough of a

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Speaker 5: me because I've seen many times when that three ball

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Speaker 5: double figure for them to get to the finals. And went.

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Speaker 5: The Bucks are very inconsistent. The Knicks are impressing me.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson hasn't been playing great, but I like the

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Speaker 5: they just kept keep coming to you, keep coming to you.

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Speaker 5: So he missed a shot. Then he shoots at three

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Speaker 1: Joel and beat one hundred percent? If he's not one

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Speaker 1: Who won that game?

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Speaker 4: You guys went four and oh against the Heat that year. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Shack and Penny and Kobe. Ray Allen was like my

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Speaker 1: You don't get starstruck. It's not there's no like sense

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Speaker 5: all But, mike now motherfucking went baseline and did some

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Speaker 1: Curiosity the aura OF mj at that, time your rookie.

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Speaker 1: Championship matter of, fact he's coming off two. Championships, sorry

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Speaker 5: Yeah because you, KNOW i went to a COUPLE nba

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Speaker 5: THERE i was, like, shit IF i can get up

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Speaker 5: good as. Him and, then you, know jealousy motivates, me like, my, my,

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Speaker 5: my my. BASKETBALLER i don't know about your, career but

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Speaker 5: ME i want the fucking. Spots everybody fucking Like Magic,

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Speaker 4: Uh so we have a segment that's sponsored by The

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Speaker 4: general it's all about breaking, through And i'm curious we've

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Speaker 1: Forward, Yeah, LOOK i THINK i think probably last, Year

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Speaker 1: jokic is the guy that broke. Through you, know someone

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Speaker 1: who had won regular season, MVPs got into The Western conference,

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Speaker 1: finals you, know played a year Without jamal and without MP. Mpj,

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Speaker 1: be that. BREAKTHROUGH i think this year the three guys

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Speaker 1: Qualities and then With, tatum he's just been so. Close you,

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Speaker 1: know if they win this, year like it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a big it's a big moment for him and sort

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Speaker 1: of how we view his legacy In. Boston those are

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Speaker 5: I'm looking FOR kd the, breakthrough, okay because we have

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Speaker 5: similar things we had to go. Through you. Know of,

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Speaker 5: course his first two championships were questionable and now you

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Speaker 1: Can people were questionable about your. Championships, yeah and your legacy.

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Speaker 5: WHEN i left la oh he's, done he's. Old well boo,

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Speaker 1: Isn't that funny that it just for guys at your

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Speaker 5: Enough, yeah it's called a to, me it's called a.

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Speaker 3: Two, yeah because it was against my. Sixers and when.

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Speaker 5: RIGHT i. APOLOGIZE.

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Speaker 5: Same but, hey hold on those numbers that you throw

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Speaker 1: General you guys took that year off In. Miami by the,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No well for me it Was and LIKE i

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Speaker 5: winning is. Boring AND i said this About Golden, state

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Speaker 5: like when you, win and you, win and you, win

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Speaker 5: ain't shait get. Traded oh, yeah, motherfucker get in, shape win?

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Speaker 5: Again what else is there for me to? Do? Right

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Speaker 5: and Then pat kind of switch up the team and you,

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Speaker 5: Like i'm not SAYING i didn't want to give, up but,

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Speaker 5: KNOW i was going through some you, know personal stuff,

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Speaker 5: we were a terrible year And pat's fucking. Pissed So

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Speaker 5: and Fucking pat tells him get. Out and you, Know

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Speaker 5: the next, time and these motherfuckers set me up nice.

429
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 5: Too so the fucking next day BECAUSE i was injured

430
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 5: AND i had a fucking m RI i. Thing you

431
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 5: know how you're not supposed to move in M RI.

432
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 5: I i, KNOW i didn't fucking move BECAUSE i fell

433
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 5: asleep in the. Motherfucker SO i get out and the

434
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 5: doctors they, whispering they, said, oh you gotta go back,

435
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: in said motherfucker for. WHAT i go back in another hour,

436
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: now WHEN i fucking get, Out, LIKE i look at

437
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: the phone And Uncle, jerome you need help up THE

438
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: u haul. Place i'm, like fuck you talking about you

439
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 5: just been? TRADED i, said motherfucker, What So i'm fucking calling.

440
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 5: People SO i, said, Okay i'm gonna getting. Traded SO

441
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 5: i get in my car BECAUSE i want to go

442
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 5: see That i've been. Traded as soon AS i get over,

443
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 5: there they got about thirty police waiting on. Me that's

444
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 5: the fucking, thing because they KNOW i was gonna go

445
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 5: in there and tell that. MOTHERFUCKER i was, like just

446
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 5: let me go get my. Shit they're, Like, shack we

447
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 5: can't let you go. In you didn't let you go

448
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 5: into the. Facility oh, no, no, no motherfuckers waiting outside

449
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 5: and not let me go on the. Facility but, yeah you,

450
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 5: are you are. Right yeah we, did we, Did we.

451
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 5: Did fucking you, know take.

452
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: That year of let me jump in with.

453
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: ONE i looked.

454
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: Back so you both start your career with the.

455
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: MAGIC jj has one, career Dunk shack you have one career.

456
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 4: Three if you guys were able to swap bodies and

457
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: skill sets for.

458
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: One, game how would you have approached that?

459
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: Game?

460
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: Shack you can lead.

461
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 5: Off before the, GAME i would announce myself as the

462
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 5: black Stef, curry AND i would tell the, World, Oh

463
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: i'm hitting ten threes a, night and of course all

464
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 5: you motherfuckers would be, like, oh, no you won't end, it.

465
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 5: BRO i WISH i was a fucking shooter like you

466
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 5: And Stefan MOUs, GUYS i. DO i really, Do like,

467
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: LIKE i always want to play, inside but now WHEN

468
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 5: i see these big guys step, OUT i get kind of.

469
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 5: Jealous i'm, LIKE i WISH i could do that IF

470
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 5: i had your fucking jump shot shit.

471
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: M IF i Had shack's body and skill. Set, oh,

472
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: MAN i, there you know it Doesn't it doesn't come out, Often.

473
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: Adam somewhere deep inside my soul is a little bit

474
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: of anger that just lives, there AND i don't really

475
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: pay attention to, it but it's. There and IF i,

476
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: had IF i had the opportunity to let that anger

477
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: out on the court with just fucking punishing, people dunking on,

478
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: PEOPLE i try to block every, Shot, oh would be so.

479
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: GREAT i honestly think it could be like a good

480
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: form of. Therapy if, like, yes you could play against

481
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 4: twelve year old kids and just pretend you're shack and

482
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 4: just the thread hold.

483
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 5: On you only had one?

484
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: Dunk, YEAH i could. DUNK i JUST i just you know,

485
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: what CAN i be honest with. You i'm gonna be

486
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: honest with, You adam When so in eighth, GRADE i

487
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: hit this gross spurt AND i went from like five

488
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: six to six. Three and in that six seven, MONTHS

489
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: i went from, like you, know you probably. Don't you

490
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: probably could dunk at a young, age but when you're

491
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen years, old when you're twelve thirteen years

492
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: old in the low, backboards you do the board, taps,

493
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Right SO i went from board tapping to being able

494
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: to like dunk with two hands at like, thirteen eighth, grade,

495
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: right all of a, sudden in six, MONTHS i get undercut.

496
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: Three i'm not.

497
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 5: Counting i'm fucking dunking at thirteen in eighth.

498
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: Grade, yeah first TIME i dunk was in eighth.

499
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: GRADE i wasn't dunk until, seventeen six. Eleven you weren't

500
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 5: fucking dunking it in thirteen stopping there was something physically

501
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: wrong with. You THEN.

502
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I should have seen the. Doctor, man what the fuck

503
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't dunk in six?

504
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: Eleven, no you know.

505
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: Is that.

506
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 5: Possible, NO i. COULDN'T i couldn't and this is. Crazy

507
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: my junior, year the whole, SEASON i could never dunk

508
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 5: AND i was SO i tried to dunkle again one

509
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: TIME i missed With barrison with. Scared SO i played

510
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 5: against real short guys in high. School so one GAME

511
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 5: i got fucking forty three. Quarters i'm doing my. Magic,

512
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: SHIT i crossed a motherfucker up at the top of

513
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 5: the key because you, know they, press AND i go

514
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 5: to finger roll it AND i miss my father drill

515
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 5: sergeant walks on the floor in the middle of the,

516
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: game time, out, like, man we in the middle of.

517
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 5: Game motherfucker call it time. Out SO i call it time.

518
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 5: Out bring your sside what you're, doing said, Man i'm

519
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 5: working on my. Magic and BEFORE i can get The

520
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 5: johnson out bow fuck, Magic johnson be, shock start. Dunking

521
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 5: so now in front of, everybody and like my father

522
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 5: was the, type don't, cry don't fucking, CRY i don't

523
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: make a, face don't. Like SO i had to take.

524
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 5: It AND i walked in the gym and the whole

525
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: fucking arena was, like so the fucking coach is looking

526
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: at me and, everybody my boys looking at, me AND

527
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 5: i just told my, motherfucker don't nobody shoot and give

528
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 5: me the fucking. Ball and THEN i was so mad at.

529
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 5: HIM i started, like really fucking. DUNKING i tried to

530
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 5: rip the fucking rim. Off and then we went back

531
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 5: and watched her, fields like, see, stupid motherfucking when you,

532
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 5: dunk you intimidate people that get. Scared and that's WHEN

533
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 5: i started dunking my junior, year AND i stopped shooting

534
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: the little jumper and all that. Shit it was just,

535
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 5: dunks drop tips and jump hooks for the rest of my,

536
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 5: life for the rest of my. Career and that's HOW

537
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: i started dunking LIKE i just. COULDN'T i had something

538
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: Called osgod sliders on my.

539
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Nose, yeah, yeah when you hit your. Grossburg that's the

540
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: WORST i saw that. YEAR i had. It but that's

541
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: an incredible, story by.

542
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 5: The, way well, story you weren't dunking in eighth. Grade

543
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: stop it all right out it.

544
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: Here So i'm an end Of june. Birthday end Of june. Birthday,

545
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Okay SO i turned. FOURTEEN i turned fourteen after eighth,

546
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: grade right On june twenty. FOURTH i vividly remember being

547
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: at AN au tournament in eighth grade In april Or,

548
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: may and in warm ups going up and dunking two

549
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: hands off two feet on the left, side the left right. Footwork, yes,

550
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay so all of a, sudden, ANYWAYS i get undercut

551
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: three times in six. MONTHS i break my wrist three,

552
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: times right. Damn coming off of, THAT i started high.

553
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: School all that. Stuff coming off of, THAT i was

554
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: if there was anybody in the vicinity of. Me it

555
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: was like my brain and body had been programmed to

556
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: like jump off two feet and you, know you can

557
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: get in the. Body i'm not jumping off one, foot

558
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: not jumping off one, foot AND i JUST i stopped.

559
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Trying and then you get to the. League but by the,

560
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: WAY i want to say, this this is what people don't.

561
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: Understand this is what people don't. Understand so high, SCHOOL i,

562
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: dunked had a couple, dunks in, college. Whatever you get

563
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: to THE, nba it is the best. ATHLETES i say

564
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: this as humbly as. POSSIBLE, i as AN nba, athlete

565
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: was more athletic than ninety nine percent of. People relative

566
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: to the rest of THE. NBA i was in the

567
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: one percent of the worst. Athletes that's how athletic these guys.

568
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: Are so LIKE i tried dunk in one other time

569
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: in my. Career we used to have this play In

570
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: orlando with jacquesvah on my last. YEAR i would come

571
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: off a pin down on the left side and. Curl

572
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: as that was, Happening jamiir would have the option to

573
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: either hit me or Post Aaron aflalo on the right.

574
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Block So we're In toronto and we had been running

575
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: it like in, practice AND i noticed in, practice like

576
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: if everybody was paying attention To air And aflalo and

577
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: the low man big wasn't really paying, attention LIKE i

578
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: could actually just keep my keep running towards the. Basket

579
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: and that's my left right. Footwork So i'm, like, OH

580
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: i could maybe get a yam in a. Game so

581
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: we're In toronto And aaron gets the, BALL i make the.

582
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Curl my guy's three feet behind. Me he hits me

583
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: the bounce pass perfect. TIMING i do my left right foot.

584
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Work i'm high enough to dunk that. Motherfucker And Amir

585
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: johnson just Like tippy toes, it you know WHAT i.

586
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Mean And i'm, like oh, SHIT i gotta, adjust AND

587
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: i laid it, in LIKE i couldn't have dunked, right

588
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: so like. It it Took my one dunk was off

589
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: an offensive rebound and a back cut out of the.

590
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Corner no one was within five feet of.

591
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: Me so my, three you're. Three we were up big

592
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: and you, know we were up on the land And Brian,

593
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 5: HILL i, said, man call to play for me to

594
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: shoot a. Three he says, No and if you look

595
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 5: at the play of the, past was supposed to go To.

596
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: Penny BUT i also mad he didn't call it. THAT

597
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 5: i intercepted it right and just took it and threw

598
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 5: it up and it went off the glass and went.

599
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: In BUT i had to fake LIKE i knew WHAT

600
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: i was doing WHEN i fucking wanted to.

601
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Day did you shoot threes In All Star? Games?

602
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: No, Never i'm not a. Shooter i'm a PROLIFIC mf.

603
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 5: Scorer you know WHAT mf score? Means? Motherfucker, no most,

604
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: FREQUENTLY i would never say motherfucker on this. Podcast.

605
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah.

606
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: Uh to what happened earlier WHERE jj Called shack a

607
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: hater and we've dealt with.

608
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: THAT i Think i've diagnosed.

609
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: IT.

610
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: Jj shaq does not hate on the younger. People he

611
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: just has an adjective. Problem he doesn't like when words

612
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: like dominant or great get used for people that maybe

613
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: haven't earned it. Yet and SO i Think shaq Is

614
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: shaq loves the word, dominant but he hates the word.

615
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: Dominant and you're someone that has studied the game and

616
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: you look at, analytics do you think there's anyone that

617
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: is he even close to.

618
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: That level of? Dominance? Like are there dominant tears in your?

619
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: Mind? Yeah, uh dominant As.

620
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 5: Shack, No, No i'm gonna make it even. Better Was dwight? Dominant,

621
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 5: yeah let's. Go it's a, yes no. Question, no not

622
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: a weird part to. ME i was going to get into.

623
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: This i'm just. ASKING i was going to get into

624
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: this on My podcas'm just. ASKING i was going to

625
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: get into. This i'll just. Ask i'm going to give

626
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: you this. Gift i'm going to give this.

627
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: Gift don't give me a. Question was he? Dominant? Yes or?

628
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: NO i played with? HIM i know, that and that's

629
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: What and, yes he was, dominant, Dominant, yes he was.

630
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Dominant he had he had a run In. Orlando he was?

631
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Dominant now did? He? SO i want to Answer adam's question,

632
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: first and THEN i want to get to something as

633
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: it relates To. DWIGHT i hate the word dominant as.

634
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: WELL i hate it when you described WHEN i think

635
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: when you say the word dominant about a basketball, player,

636
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: like the image that comes into my mind Is shaquille

637
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: O'Neil on The Los Angeles, lakers and there's not really

638
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: another player that like immediately comes to. MIND i think

639
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: it has to do with. PHYSICALITY i think it has

640
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: to do with like a fear. FACTOR rj talked about

641
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: this on my. Podcast he's, like we used TO nba

642
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: teams used to build rosters around having four big. Guys.

643
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Right my issue with the word is, This AND i

644
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: apologize if this doesn't make sense to, You AND i

645
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Apologize adam to this makes sense to you. Either there

646
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: is a difference to me between production and the aesthetic

647
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: of how that production. Happens the aesthetic meaning what we.

648
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: Watch so Like, jokich for, instance like you're talking about

649
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: he's got the, slowest laziest game, ever, right in some,

650
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: senses he's, dominant but not in the sense of the

651
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: way you Dominated lebron as a. Scorer how we talk About,

652
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: kobe how we talk ABOUT mj as a, scorer, Right

653
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: it's all about how we view it versus the actual.

654
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: PRODUCTION i think there's a difference and we get so

655
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: caught up in. Aesthetics that's my issue with the word

656
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: dominant Because i've seen. Motherfuckers i'll say, This i've seen

657
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: guys dominate a game and have eight, Points like we're

658
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: talking About Josh.

659
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: Hart, no, no, no, No josh Harta dominada game and none

660
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 5: have eight. Points who's who is.

661
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: THE mvp of those first two games for The?

662
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: Knicks for The knicks heart, yeah all the, Way but

663
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: hold on.

664
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Again it goes back to the word. Dominate that's WHY

665
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: i don't like using the word dominate because everybody has

666
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: a different interpretation of.

667
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: It so my interpretation is definitely. Production, Right so when

668
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: you ask who dominated the next, game Is hart because

669
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: it's production twenty two, Nineteen he's only.

670
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: Averaging nine, points the, rebounds the.

671
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: Rebound so dominant to me is, production and dominant to

672
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: me is the motherfucker can't be. Stopped one, guy two guy,

673
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 5: three guy hack a shack bill a roster during the off,

674
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: season have seeker fucking meetings and fucking complain about. Them

675
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 5: that's dominant to. Me and then do it one year.

676
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 5: Junior oh, yeah oh, yeah that's dominant to, Me like

677
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: you could, like you're, right you could be, dominant but

678
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: before a, game but that has to be an incredible

679
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 5: game to.

680
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: Dominate that's THAT'S i think what gets lost in the

681
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: sauce a little bit is the longevity. Portion when we

682
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: talk about certain, players certain, teams certain. Athletes it is

683
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about being bored with. Winning it's really fucking

684
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: hard to maintain that. Level it is of intensity and.

685
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: Competitiveness like it's one of the reasons That lebron is so.

686
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: GREAT I i have refused literally and people will be, like,

687
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: uh you said this in twenty seventeen when you played against. Him,

688
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: well no, SHIT i was playing against, him of, COURSE

689
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: i said he was the best player. EVER i refuse

690
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: to get into the goat. DEBATE i don't fucking. Care

691
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: they didn't play against each. OTHER i do not fucking.

692
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: Care what makes him, Great, well a bunch of, things

693
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: but what has made him great is the fact that

694
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: he's done it now for twenty one years at the highest. Level,

695
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: like you talk about, scoring that's, great so one guy

696
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: averaged thirty five a. Year, Yeah lebron's never averaged thirty

697
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: five in a. Year guess, What he's averaged twenty five

698
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: or more for twenty straight. Years no one's had more

699
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: than fifteen of those. Years like that to me is

700
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: he's a fucking. Scorer but, again it looks, differently he plays,

701
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: differently so it's all it's all in the eye of the.

702
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 5: Beholder lebron is great to me because he's always done

703
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: it the right. Way WHEN i played With, lebron he

704
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: was the greatest young Leader i've ever seen.

705
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: Me stop stealing stuff from my, Podcast.

706
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 5: No he was like BECAUSE i know because WHEN I

707
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 5: i mean, LISTEN i know he. Was And i'm such

708
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 5: a dominant, personality Like i'm the. Guy i'm the guy

709
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 5: that no matter what fucking Team i'm going, to this

710
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: is my, ship give a fuck what nobody. Says but

711
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 5: WHEN i got, there like he just he just ran

712
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: it so. Perfectly the way he treated the, guys the

713
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 5: way he treated the, organization the way he was, coached

714
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: the way he looked out for guys LIKE i don't

715
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: even have to do. Nothing and you, know we were

716
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: we definitely had a chance to. Win we were in

717
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: first the whole year and then fucking big baby with

718
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 5: his wild eyes broke my fucking. HAND i had to

719
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: be out for six, weeks and we came out and

720
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: lost the. BOSS i, WISH i WISH i wouldn't have had,

721
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 5: that that that absence away From, Lebron but he was

722
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 5: one of the greatest young leaders That i've always, seen

723
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 5: so he will always be in. That in that, conversation

724
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: the only THING i don't like about the conversation is

725
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: they don't put my boy's name in. It you're, RIGHT

726
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 5: i don't give a fuck. Either but if you're gonna

727
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 5: be throwing names, around got, it you gotta have my

728
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 5: boy's name in. It you know What i'm. Saying that's.

729
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 5: It that's like saying that's like, saying what are the

730
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: best luxury cars out? There lexus or A? Beamer what?

731
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 5: Fuck you gotta put The mercedes in there. Too, yeah

732
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: JUST i don't. Like i'm with. YOU i don't give a.

733
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 5: FUCK i don't, care truly. Do But Mike Lebron, kobe

734
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: now you'all. Debate That's that's ALL i say about.

735
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: IT i think it's fair to just say there are

736
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: different tiers of, greatness and you, could by the, way

737
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: LIKE i think it's fair even to be, like who's

738
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: Your Mount, rushmore who's your who's your four, greatest or

739
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: who's your five, greatest who's your ten? Greatest whatever it may, Be,

740
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: like we're we're we're fucking, nitpicking by the, way a

741
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: lot of times we're comparing, eras we're comparing different, rules

742
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: we're comparing the fact that look Like i'll say this

743
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: With Michael, jordan AND i don't mean this to be,

744
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: controversial but like everybody talks about all these the context

745
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: of this, Era Michael, jordan The Dallas mavericks were were

746
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: added as the twenty thirteen in nineteen eighty, One jordan was.

747
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Drafted during his, heyday six teams were added to THE.

748
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: Nba they were ninety players added to THE. Nba like

749
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: that does that not water Down i'm not talking, playoffs

750
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: by the, way no fucking, Chance but talking to, playoffs

751
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: does that not water down the regular? Season to a?

752
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Degree you lived? It you lived it, right you played

753
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: against some of those if you played against The bobcats

754
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: right when they first came. Out, Yeah, like if we

755
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: add two teams in two or three, years we get

756
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: A vegas franchise or A seattle. Franchise you're not telling

757
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: me that the league for a little bit is going

758
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: to be a little watered, down.

759
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: Maybe a little. Bit you know What i've always liked

760
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 5: about you is you always speak your honest, opinion and you,

761
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 5: know people always get on us because they don't understand our.

762
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: Language when you made the comment about palumbers and, ELECTRICIANS

763
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: i knew exactly what you were talkingbous, environm same, thing, lumbers, firement,

764
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 5: electrician same. THING i understood what you was talking. About

765
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 5: but you said something the other. DAY i didn't THINK

766
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 5: i would hear from. You he said you had the

767
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: dickhead syndrome when you were in. College can you elaborate on?

768
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 5: That BECAUSE i heard, it BUT.

769
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: I was on my.

770
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 5: PHONE i, heard AND i was, like why do? You i'm,

771
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 5: like use that exact. Word let's you said? Home you,

772
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 5: SAID i. HAVE i wrote it down SO i wouldn't

773
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 5: be messed. Up where is it? At go, Ahead? Adam

774
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: are you SURE i didn't call myself a?

775
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: Prick?

776
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 5: No you said. Dickhead i've used that. Before what is

777
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 5: that dickhead?

778
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: Central?

779
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, no dickhead. Behavior oh, okay, yeah you SAID i.

780
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: Pods you said In, duke you had dickhead, behavior AND

781
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: i never THOUGHT i would hear it a guy like

782
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: yourself said about. Yourself can you, elaborate elaborate what you

783
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: meant by?

784
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: That is? It is it fair to, Say i'll answer the.

785
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: Question this is just to frame it a little. Bit

786
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: is it fair to say that you have some shit to?

787
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: You do you know WHAT i mean by?

788
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 6: That?

789
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: YEAH i have some shit to. Me i've had a

790
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: bunch of teammates that have some shit to. THEM i like,

791
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: that you know WHAT i mean by. THAT i didn't

792
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: quite appreciate it WHEN i was in, college SO i

793
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't know how to channel that in like a positive.

794
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: Way so WHEN i got To, duke it's my dream

795
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: to go To, DUKE i show. Up we played ten

796
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: or twelve, games either at home or on like neutral. Sites,

797
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: indiana we PLAYED, Ucla we Played Ohio state In. Greensboro

798
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: my first road game was At. CLEMSON i came out

799
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: for warm ups AND i was, like, oh you had

800
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: the whole student section there screaming things at, me making

801
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: fun of, me talking about my. Family that was like

802
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: my entire college, career, Right and so the response to,

803
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: that as a nineteen year old is LIKE i JUST

804
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: i just was a dickhead on the, court like it.

805
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't it wasn't in a positive way. Either it was,

806
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: outlandish it was it was like it, was it was just.

807
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: Bad and then off the, court you, know particularly my

808
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: first two, years well really my first two years off the,

809
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: COURT i like didn't know how to like process and balance.

810
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: Life so you got to college and you've got basketball

811
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: academics and social and for my first two, years it

812
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: was like social basketball. Academics, right that was how the

813
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: priority list, went and that caused a bunch of problems.

814
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: Too so that's WHAT I that's WHAT i mean by. That. Good,

815
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: yeah that's WHAT i mean by.

816
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 5: That CAN i tell them my ship before you asked a, Question,

817
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: yeah of course my ship WAS i never worked out

818
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: in the, summer.

819
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: Even as a.

820
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: Pro, no what the fuck did you do all? Day

821
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 5: and the reason why is for? What who AM i

822
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 5: working out? For the only GUY i really gotta worry

823
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 5: about is. Dunking so you, KNOW i would get a

824
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 5: lot of flak for not coming in, Shape but my thing,

825
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: was it's a long, Season i'm gonna work my way into, shape.

826
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: Right that was my only. Shit and you, know especially

827
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 5: WHEN i start having. KIDS i thought it wasn't fair

828
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: to them That i'd be gone all the, time going

829
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: nine months so summertime living In, orlando our days, were you,

830
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: know wake, up WHAT i wanted to, do go on

831
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: The Lake university, studios this and, that and so that

832
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 5: was my only. SHIT i took a lot of flak.

833
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 5: For but my mentality was for who for? What Because

834
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 5: I'm I'm i'm getting seven points a, quarter skinny, shot,

835
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 5: shock medium, shack fat, shack Gett i'm getting twenty eight ten,

836
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: right and then you, know boom boom boom By All Star. Game, okay,

837
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: Motherfucker now you gotta get a. Cracking and that was

838
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: that was my. Ship LIKE i hear a lot of

839
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: people talk, about, oh if he was in, shape and

840
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: my response, is IF i came in shape or out of,

841
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: Shape i'm still gonna be fucking. Shack it doesn't. Matter

842
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: but that was my. Ship during the. SUMMER i never worked.

843
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 5: Out and then WHEN i WHEN i was With, phil

844
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: he told, me don't work out some, matter, relax say

845
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 5: they fucking beat you up this, summer and justly so you,

846
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: know BEFORE i Met, phil that was my strategy, Anyway

847
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: but then WHEN i met him and he told me

848
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: to do, it it was it was kind of a.

849
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: Relief that's why if you look at Our Laker, championships

850
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: you see three different. Checks you see skinny, shack you

851
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: see medium, shack and then that last shack was swole.

852
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: Shack and THEN i got To. Miami pat was, like fuck,

853
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: you work it, Out AND i had to work. Out

854
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 5: that's SOMEONE i dropped all the way back to three twenty.

855
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: Five but that was always my shit BECAUSE i was,

856
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: like work out for Who i'm gonna kill all these.

857
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: MOTHERFUCKERS i don't know the fuck who you put in

858
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 5: front of.

859
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Me and but And, adam you, see why WOULD i

860
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: WHEN i hear the word, DOMINANT i have the image

861
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: of shit back in my.

862
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: Head it's only, him it's, him and Like, will there's.

863
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: Part part of me is just LIKE i don't want

864
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: to use the word jealousy Because i'm. NOT i. DON'T i,

865
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Don't i'm not jealous of. People but, like there's a

866
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: little WHY.

867
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: I WISH i had your fucking. Jumper this ship was, sweet, bro.

868
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: It Was there's a, level there's a there's a, level

869
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: there's a level of. Envy uh even like in some

870
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: of my peers like not to that. Level they're, Like

871
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: i'm just you, know but there are some of my

872
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: peers And i'm, like, MAN i am doing everything possible

873
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: all day long to fucking survive in this. League And

874
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: i'm watching this motherfucker Eat Like dwight was like, that you,

875
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Know i'm Fucking i'm worried about my sleep MORET i gotta,

876
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: LIFT i gotta do my, ACTIVATION i gotta do my mobility.

877
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: STRETCHES i gotta do my extra. Shooting and then we

878
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: get down with shoot around and this dude's eating Five

879
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: Crispy kreme donuts and two. Pepsis i'm, like, man fuck, you,

880
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: dude that was.

881
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: Me you brought Up Mount rushmore as.

882
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: BEFORE i feel like we've done one every, episode and

883
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: The Mount rushmore THAT i wanted to pose TO Jj

884
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: Shack it's changed three times through this. Episode FIRST i was,

885
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 4: LIKE i want to do The Mount rushmore of best

886
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: shooters with ugly, form and THEN i, thought, no, no,

887
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: no let's do best basketball, sikos just like people THAT.

888
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 4: Jj but Now i'm REALIZING i want A Mount rushmore

889
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 4: OF nba, assholes just the people that didn't give a

890
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: fuck about anybody else that were just the most most

891
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: ruthless people, Ever So Mount rushmore of all TIME nba, assholes.

892
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: Like do you mean do you mean this in a good?

893
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: Way like a.

894
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: Good, way LIKE i, like LIKE i Believe shack is

895
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: a good natured, person but when he, played dude was an,

896
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: asshole like you like you. DON'T i would never want

897
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: to be On shaq's bad side because THEN i would

898
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: experience that people that, truly, yeah you go.

899
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 5: First i'll go. First and these guys are all my,

900
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: friends so they're not gonna take it the wrong. Way

901
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 5: Gary payton was an. ASSHOLE i seen that man talk

902
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 5: to all my guards about their, mamas about their, wife's

903
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 5: about their. Kids Kevin garnett was an asshole seeing him

904
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 5: do the same. Thing Elazo morning was an asshole because

905
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: he always tried to be. Mean and then the last,

906
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 5: one who's the last? One and Twine walker was an.

907
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 5: Asshole he talked a lot and like and like every

908
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: time he hit that that fucking shot he always did. That,

909
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 5: motherfucker he always did that fucking. SHIMMY i wanted to

910
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: kill them. Up at one time we was, playing he

911
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: hit a fucking. Shot he did the shemy and we're,

912
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: like all, Right, antoine we'll beat your ass in the.

913
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: Back you better cut that shit. Out so all these

914
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: guys are friends who like they don't understand when they

915
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 5: won't take a. Person hopefully you work with an. Asshole

916
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 5: BUT i ain't gonna say, Nothing.

917
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: Archie, Nope, KENDRICK i don't know. WHERE i don't know

918
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: where this is, Going.

919
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: Kendrick, shaq what did you think?

920
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: About, WELL i am a self admitted. Asshole, Like i'm

921
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: fine having the. Conversation but all, right are we doing

922
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: just teammates or just people we've observed in our?

923
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: Careers anybody like Like kobe would be on?

924
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: Mine, Okay, MAN i don't, Know, Man kobe was really

925
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: good to. ME i gotta be honest with. YOU i

926
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: mean he talks sh it to me, sometimes but, like,

927
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: yeah he was really good to, Me SO i can't

928
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: put him on that. List H kg for. Sure, YEAH

929
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: i put rasheet up. There oh, Yeah. Rashid it's, funny,

930
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: MAN i would have loved to ben both those guys.

931
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: TEAMMATES i never got the. Chance Teammates Hiito turklu for.

932
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: Sure you, know, yeah, boy.

933
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: He my my rookie. Year he didn't like THAT i

934
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: would play hard in, practice SO i Hit there was

935
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: One there was one. Time, yeah And i'm trying to.

936
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Survive i'm trying to Get he posted me, up looked at,

937
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: me looked at. Me fucking elbowed me in the side

938
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: of the. Head two practices, LATER i got to. Breakaway

939
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: he undercuts, me he gets thrown out of. Practice by

940
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: the end of the, year we kind of became, friends

941
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: So i'm, thinking, like this is this is good. Man

942
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: we started going to dinner on the road, together hanging

943
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: on the. Plane this is. Good second year comes, in

944
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: shoot around In. Charlotte. Again i'm not even doing. Anything

945
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: we're not like we go. Live you, know it's the

946
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: heat ship like With stan And. Pat but we're going

947
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: live and same. Thing posted me, up looked at, me

948
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: looked at. Me. Bam hit.

949
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 6: Me that.

950
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: TIME i actually got a black. Eye SO i got

951
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: to go to, lunch you, know an hour later with my,

952
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: parents they're, like what. Happened i'm, like he do hit me?

953
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: Again it's like that type of. Ship uh you know

954
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: Who i'm gonna throw in? There, yeah underrated Asshole AND

955
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: i love him to. DEATH tj McConnell tj. McConnell who

956
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: IS tj. McConnell i, like, Yeah, Indiana Indiana rudy as,

957
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: Well Oconell. Rudy that's, great that's. GREAT i love.

958
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: THAT i LOVE tj.

959
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: McConnell All, Right, SO, jj you And shaq both agree

960
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: on something and that IT'S i think you guys have

961
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: issues with voting FOR nba. Awards shack's issue is whenever

962
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 4: we talk about THE, mvp he's always, saying what matters

963
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 4: more individual production or. Standings IF i could make you

964
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: the commissioner for the, day how would you change the

965
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: way that THE nba votes on? Awards and that includes

966
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 4: who gets to vote on the awards.

967
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: Themselves?

968
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i would like a better definition of a couple

969
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: of the, awards Particularly Most Improved. PLAYER i think that's

970
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: the one that, like should we have a cutoff for you,

971
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: know you got to get it by your fifth? Year

972
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: it's all fifth year players and UNDER i just there's

973
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: certain times where Like shay almost got it last. Year i'm, like,

974
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: dude this dude was A star of The year, Before

975
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: like did he get? Better, yeah he got. Better but

976
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: LIKE i think Most improved to me has always been

977
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: about like a guy playing a completely different role or

978
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: developing a completely new skill. Set, RIGHT a guy goes

979
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: from this guy's a thirty percent three point shooter shooting

980
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: to a, game to all of a, sudden he's at

981
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: three point shooter shooting eight a. Game that's that's, like,

982
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: okay that streams most. Improved to, ME mvp is interesting

983
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think everybody has a different definition of. IT

984
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: i said this the other day WHEN i did my

985
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: awards show for The Old man in the THREE. Mvp

986
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: if we're, waiting like all the individual, awards and let's

987
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: say we started a baseline of it's fifty percent individual

988
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: performance fifty team, performance, RIGHT i would, say hold, on hold,

989
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: on let, me let me get. Somewhere that's the, Baseline,

990
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: shack that's the. Baseline i'll just, say go aheady fuck.

991
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 5: MAN mvp to.

992
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Me is you have to weigh the team performance a

993
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: little bit. More ALL, nba you weigh the individual performance

994
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. More But shack disagrees with, me And

995
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: i'd love to get his thoughts on this.

996
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 5: Matter it's a singular. Award THE mvp player, yeah player,

997
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 5: yeah has nothing to do with the. Team, okay if

998
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 5: you're a bad.

999
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: So you're, saying we should just give it to the

1000
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: best player every year we regardless of what his team.

1001
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 5: Did, Okay, no like, so we should interject the rules

1002
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 5: a little. Bit like for, example if you're one through

1003
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 5: eight and your team is in the, playoffs you call

1004
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: a five for the most popular, player, right you qualify

1005
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: for the most poplar. Player i've always thought it was

1006
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 5: stats how you played in your effect on the, game, Right,

1007
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 5: yeah if you put if you Put sga With, charlotte

1008
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 5: would he be talked about AS? Mvp will?

1009
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: He why'd you bring Up? Charlotte why did you just Throw?

1010
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: Charlotte and that's? Weird, good that's just the first team

1011
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: that popped in your.

1012
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: Head they're not in the. Playoffs, oh okay With. Charlotte

1013
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: but like, SO i mean so. So now this year

1014
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: is very interesting because my criteria and everybody else's criteria is.

1015
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 5: Working sga is the baddest boy in the league by.

1016
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: Far you think he's the best player in the, league.

1017
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: One of the best player in the. League he's the

1018
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 5: most viva player this, year in my, opinion one of

1019
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 5: one of a few guys that had thirty points fifty

1020
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 5: fifty five. Times, right his team was number one and

1021
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: number two and great on the. Game let's switch a little.

1022
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: Bit hold, ON i want to say one. Thing, REALLY

1023
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: i want to say one. THING i actually want to

1024
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: say two things to your point number one as it

1025
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: relates TO, SGA i think. IT i think what is

1026
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: frustrating now is a voter and as someone they asked

1027
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: you to, vote they asked me to.

1028
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: VOTE i. Voted how the you get the?

1029
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: VOTE i, KNOW i get an email that, says do

1030
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: you want to?

1031
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: Vote you don't respond to your. Emails that's the.

1032
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Issue, well apparently this guy doesn't watch THE.

1033
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: Nba, yeah according to, you the asshole.

1034
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Friend what is frustrating to me is there's a lot of,

1035
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: guys at least the two YEARS i, voted there's a

1036
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: lot of guys that deserve. It and everybody gets into

1037
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: this argument for a, player and by doing, that then

1038
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: they inherently get into the argument of why so and

1039
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: so doesn't deserve, it and THAT i think gets frustrating

1040
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: at times because my criteria can be a little bit

1041
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: different than your criteria can be a little bit different

1042
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: than her, criteria like and that's, okay, right that's why

1043
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: they have one hundred VOTERS i just don't like the

1044
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: argument against. People the other, thing, too is one of

1045
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: the arguments that has popped up, recently and particularly as

1046
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: it relates To, jokic is this idea, that, uh he

1047
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: will if we're setting a precedent now if he gets

1048
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: three in four. Years let's say if he gets three

1049
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: and four, years we'll look at the history of THE.

1050
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Nba guess what voters fucked UP a bunch of. MVPs

1051
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: he should have had, MORE mg should have had. More

1052
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: duncan probably should have had. More there are years where

1053
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: the Fucking. Spurs there's years where The spurs had sixty

1054
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: wins and didn't get anybody on The ALL nba, List,

1055
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: like voters have fucked. Up what, so so we're gonna

1056
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna make the argument now that we shouldn't vote

1057
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: the right. Way i'm not saying it's not an argument For.

1058
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: Yogic we're. Not we're saying we're we we shouldn't vote

1059
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: the right way now because we fucked up in the.

1060
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Past what that is?

1061
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 5: Illogical it should be hall of famers and ex, players

1062
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 5: only Fifty hall of famers and FIFTY x. Players that's.

1063
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: It that's how voting should be all these ear flings

1064
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 5: Like Steven a And Shannon sharp and you, know, man

1065
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 5: do you Know i'm just saying like they shouldn't get.

1066
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: Votes it should be Fifty hall Of famers and FIFTY

1067
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: x players that they. Understand Gay for, example like this

1068
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 5: is kind of weird to. Me Victor, wimbinyana all those

1069
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 5: records he broke right according to everybody else, criteria his

1070
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 5: team didn't make the, Playoffs so should he be a

1071
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 5: candidate For Defensive player of The year stats, wise, yes

1072
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 5: but everybody else's criteria, wise, No. Yeah and Then, Rudy

1073
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 5: rudy plays on a great. Team, yeah plays on a great.

1074
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: Team but When beyonna, starts stats are Killing rudy. Stats

1075
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 5: so that's the only.

1076
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: Problem, LIKE i had a hard time with that. One

1077
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: to be honest with, YOU i did HAD i had

1078
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: a really hard time with that. One Uh AND i

1079
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: Thought bam was deserving. TOO i Thought Bam bam defensively

1080
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: was great this. YEAR i had him. THIRD i ended

1081
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: up With rudy at. First you, know that's, fine you

1082
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: can Overwhelming. Nana that's WHERE i ended. Up that's WHERE

1083
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: i ended. Up that's WHERE i ended.

1084
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 5: Up so you probably Got dwight over me as The

1085
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: magic's best big man. EVER i Fucking dare just. SAID

1086
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 5: i Fucking day just, said how about? THIS i asked the,

1087
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 5: question since you motherfucking give me mother fucking awards, away

1088
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 5: how about? This, No, no the Best Orlando magic big man?

1089
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 5: Ever say. It it's only three, Me dway And greg

1090
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: Fucking kite say. It go, ahead say. IT i want

1091
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: to order right.

1092
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: NOW i don't want to get into this with you right,

1093
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: now BUT I i, LOOK i when when when people

1094
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: have tried to have this discussion with? Me And i've

1095
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: done this in public forums by the, Way i've done.

1096
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: This i'm Sure i've did this on the first. Taken

1097
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: i've definitely done this on the podcast a couple of.

1098
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Times like just so you. Know And i'm not just

1099
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: saying this Because i'm right, here BUT i when people

1100
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: talk about the top ten, players the Mount rushmore's or

1101
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: the Great i'm, like there are certain guys that we

1102
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: don't talk about. Enough we don't talk about you. Enough

1103
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: we don't we don't talk About Tim duncan. Enough to,

1104
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: me we don't talk about certain guys. Enough you're the

1105
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: best big man In Orlando magic. History LIKE i don't

1106
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: like what what?

1107
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 5: What?

1108
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 6: Why?

1109
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Why why would why would you even question?

1110
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 5: That?

1111
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: SO i, MEAN i Mean dwight does have better career

1112
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: stats with the.

1113
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: So so so The magic have been trying to get

1114
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: me to come back to a game for a few

1115
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: years and AND i just haven't been able to get down.

1116
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: There and. UH i See Dante marcatelli at a game

1117
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: In Brooklyn december and he's, Like, hey we'd really like

1118
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: to honor you at A magic. GAME i don't know

1119
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: what they call, it The ring Of, HONOR i don't.

1120
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: Know So i'm, like. OKAY i was, Like i'm actually

1121
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: taking my kids To Disney world Over All Star break

1122
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: for the first. Time you guys have a game the night.

1123
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: Before i'll just come in a day, early, Right And

1124
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: i'm not looking at the. Schedule i'm not really paying.

1125
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: It i'm just, Like i'll come in the day. Early

1126
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: they retire your jersey the night, before and then they

1127
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: gave me a fucking they just gave me a jersey

1128
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: like At Center. Court i'm, LIKE i could HAVE i

1129
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: should have picked any other, date like for me to

1130
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: follow you, Up, like come, on, man that was just

1131
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: bad bad, timing bad planning on my part bad.

1132
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: Planning you rode in the wake Of Shaq's jersey, retirement

1133
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: so you could.

1134
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: Have did a podcast to. Anybody The lebron and your

1135
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 5: podcast very, interesting very intelligently to speak about the. Game

1136
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 5: but why him and why? NOW i never even knew

1137
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 5: you guys were.

1138
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: Friends oh, man you know what's. FUNNY i explained. THIS

1139
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: i explained this recently because a lot of people have

1140
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: asked me about. This So lebron AND i met WHEN

1141
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: i was sixteen at That colorado, thing, right and he was.

1142
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: FIFTEEN i was a year were the same age as,

1143
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: Such i'm six months, older but he was a year

1144
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: behind me in. School we met at that, camp and

1145
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: obviously he went straight to the. PROS i played a,

1146
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: duke and there's always been like a level of, respect

1147
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: like we would acknowledge each other at, games maybe make

1148
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: a joke later on in our, careers you, Know i'd ask, him,

1149
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: hey was the last great bottle of red burgundy you?

1150
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Had you, know shit like, That Like i'd NEVER i

1151
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: never hung out with the guy prior to us doing the.

1152
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: PODCAST i think part of it for me was like

1153
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: trying to create something that is different than most podcasts

1154
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: that WAS i think the biggest, thing and then the

1155
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: fact that it was with. Him in, fact he's still

1156
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: playing and still has that like freshpective on the game right,

1157
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: now which you, Know i'm three years, out you're twelve years.

1158
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,479
Speaker 5: Out, yeah twelve. Yeah.

1159
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: Uh the further you get, out like you, DO i

1160
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: watch every, NIGHT i study this, shit but you do

1161
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: lose a little bit of the perspective of the current.

1162
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Game and as we, said he's one of the all time.

1163
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: Greats so just the mix of all that stuff just

1164
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: felt like a fun thing to. DO i appreciate you

1165
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: giving a shout, out, man thank.

1166
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: You one thing that you guys really harp, ON i

1167
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 4: know it matters a lot to, you is that the

1168
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 4: concept of BASKETBALL, iq not everyone has it is what

1169
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: we were beginning to realize as. Fans and So i'm,

1170
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 4: curious have you ever played with someone or, again someone

1171
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: that you didn't realize had a super high BASKETBALL iq

1172
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: and it even shocked, you whether they became a teammate

1173
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 4: later or you experienced them on the court and they

1174
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: were seeing things at a level that you didn't.

1175
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: Expect that's a great. QUESTION i want to JUST i

1176
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: want to clear IF i have SOMETHING i think there's

1177
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: just there's everybody has a BASKETBALL. IQ i think there's

1178
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: just levels to, it AND i think there are certain

1179
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: guys who used that to their advantage to create some

1180
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: level of separation or. Advantage and it could be like

1181
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: a little marginal, thing or it could be you, know sheer,

1182
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: exploitation LIKE i Think jokic the way he sort of

1183
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: puts the chess pieces in, PLACE i think that's, exploitation.

1184
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: Right the guy that immediately pops to, mind just BECAUSE

1185
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: i didn't know him AND i signed there in twenty,

1186
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: seventeen we. MET i Met joelle two weeks before free.

1187
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: Agency we were At Steve nash's soccer charity event In New.

1188
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: York he was still coming back from his knee, thing

1189
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: AND i was going to be a free agent in two,

1190
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: weeks SO i, said see, It i'll come up put

1191
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: the uniform, on But i'm not running around And i'm

1192
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: not going to tear my grond two weeks before free.

1193
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: Agency So joel AND i ended up at being on

1194
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: the same. Team we just sat and watched the game

1195
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: and talked the whole time and hit it. Off and

1196
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: then ONCE i started playing with, HIM i was, like holy,

1197
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: shit this. Guy just he's. Smart he's, smart EVEN i

1198
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: know it's a point of. Contention there are certain times

1199
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: where he certainly bates the fouls and exaggerates some. Shit

1200
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: i'm not a fan of. That but the level of

1201
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: intelligence required to be going into your dribble package at

1202
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: the elbow and time when you gather the ball right

1203
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: as the defender puts his hand out and go up

1204
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: and make the shot like that's basketball. Intelligence that's a

1205
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: level of basketball. Intelligence that's the guy that Pops pops in.

1206
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: Mind you got really quiet over, here, man what's?

1207
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 5: Up, No i'm just listening to your perspective of the.

1208
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 5: GAME i like to hear people THAT i respect. TALK

1209
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 5: i appreciate. THEM a lot of these people on your

1210
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 5: side of the, DEFENSE i don't. Respect we're on the

1211
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 5: same side of the. Fence now we're. Not we're. Not

1212
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 5: we work for two different, companies my, guy you work

1213
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 5: for two different, companies and a lot of people over

1214
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 5: THERE i don't even listen to, Him but of COURSE

1215
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 5: i respect and and listen to.

1216
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: YOU i was BECAUSE i love the way that YOU

1217
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: i feel like you Helped joel's game develop so much

1218
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 4: as A sixers, fan and the actions that you guys

1219
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: would have off of each other the three point shot

1220
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: and then feeding him down. Low when when you look

1221
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 4: sitting next To shack right, now how would you even

1222
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: approach that relationship if y'all would have played together in the,

1223
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: prime working together and using your three point shot in

1224
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: his dominance down?

1225
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: Low are we playing in in sort of the end

1226
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: of my? Era or are we playing both?

1227
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 5: Primes Medium, shock not the Old, shack not The Cleveland,

1228
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 5: Shock La Orlando Miami.

1229
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: SHACK i WOULD i would say. THIS i would say

1230
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: there is a very real, possibility AND i live this

1231
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: like With, BLAKE i lived it With, DWIGHT i lived

1232
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: it with With joel as. Well it's, like If i'm

1233
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: on the court with, You i'm always going to be

1234
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: the guy feeding you in the. Post i'm always going

1235
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: to be that next. Man so if they double, right

1236
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: they've either got to make a Decision they're gonna double

1237
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: off of me from the weak, side or if they

1238
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: double with my, Guy i'm the next. Man i'm the

1239
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: easiest pass right that creates a decision to. MAKE i

1240
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: if it happened later in my, CAREER i would have

1241
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: probably grabbed you the first day and been Like, hey

1242
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: here's WHAT i like in terms of like, dribble, handoffs,

1243
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: streenaways all that. Stuff you would do WHAT i would

1244
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: have grabbed, you grab who grab?

1245
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 5: You and you would have told me what you. Like,

1246
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah AND i would have been, like do me a

1247
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 5: favor of my.

1248
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: Guy, Yeah AND i know what you would have.

1249
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 5: SAID i would, say just get in the corner and

1250
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 5: WHEN i throw it to, you just make.

1251
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: It. Yeah but, listen you know tried that.

1252
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 5: Shit Devin george tried that. Shit when when you're he's a,

1253
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: shooter that's how ABOUT i don't give a fuck what you.

1254
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 5: Like how about WHEN i Can?

1255
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: GEORGE i Knh Devin george Is.

1256
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 5: I'm, like, LISTEN i know you're a. SHOOTER i know

1257
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 5: who you, are but we're not doing all. That when

1258
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 5: you fucking throw and they bring three guys AND i

1259
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 5: kick it back, out just hit the, shot that's.

1260
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: ALL i HAVE A georgie shot thirty four percent for

1261
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: his career from THREE i would there's. Levels this is.

1262
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 5: Shock did you just looked that up on the. Phone,

1263
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 5: No BUT i was just trying to make you know

1264
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 5: the correlation of you, know. Shooters i've always loved playing. Shooters,

1265
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 5: YEAH i always loved playing shooter De Scott Glenn rice

1266
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 5: my favorite, one one of my favorite. Shoots he didn't

1267
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 5: get a lot of playing. Time But Mike, pinberthy you remember,

1268
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 5: Him Mike. Pinberthy, yeah, SO i like he, said getting

1269
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 5: throw it to, him and that mofuck would always make

1270
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 5: it to be.

1271
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Clear to be, CLEAR i said at the end of

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: towards the end of my, CAREER i into your. Career,

1273
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: NO i, said towards the end of my. Career earlier

1274
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: in my, CAREER i would have not said a word to,

1275
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: you AND i just would have watched and observed and

1276
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: done whatever you told. Me there's a. DIFFERENCE i.

1277
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 5: Apologize that was awesome.

1278
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 4: Before before we get to doctor, O'Neill i have One,

1279
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 4: NOW i want to like do a. Hypothetical let's say

1280
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 4: that YOUNG Jj reddick actually like fifth YEAR Jj reddick

1281
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: is on the same team As hall Of Famers shaquille,

1282
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 4: O'Neil and you want to connect with, him AND jj is, like, hey,

1283
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: man LIKE i got this Beautiful, BORDEAUX i want to split.

1284
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 4: It and Then shaq, goes, MAN i don't really drink.

1285
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: WINE i want to Smoke, kuka would you smoke cucka

1286
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 4: with shack to connect with your teammate even though you've

1287
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: never smoked cuca.

1288
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 5: Before, yes, absolutely that's of. ALL i won't be smoking

1289
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 5: While i'm. Playing stop. It, yeah NO nba player smokes

1290
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 5: anything while they, play exactly.

1291
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 3: The statue of limitations are.

1292
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 5: Up i've you, know you know it's. Crazy i've always

1293
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 5: had great relationships with my. SHOOTERS a lot of shooters

1294
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 5: have gotten great contracts because of. Me they make me look.

1295
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 5: GOOD i look, good and so me and him would

1296
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 5: have been, cool would have been.

1297
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: Cool, YEAH i always made an. Effort does that make?

1298
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: Sense LIKE i always made. IT i don't mean.

1299
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 5: It you make a, SHOT i don't mean.

1300
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: It there's there's the connection on the, court And i'm

1301
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 1: not Saying i'm actually gonna ask you about this. Later

1302
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: then there's the connection off the, court, right the, friendship that,

1303
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: camaraderie all that. Stuff but WHEN i WHEN i SAY

1304
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: i make an, EFFORT i, said you, know you get

1305
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: you come as a rookie and there's fourteen new guys

1306
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: you got to, meet get to, know and then your second,

1307
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: year maybe two or three gets swapped. Out, OKAY i

1308
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: got to go make you know some sort of personal

1309
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 1: connection with these, guys and it's not what MAYBE i

1310
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: should have, said made an effort the personal connection part

1311
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: with my, teammates my, coaches training, staff like every. Like,

1312
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: dude that's WHAT i missed the. Most that's that's WHAT

1313
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: i loved about playing a team. Sport it wasn't it was.

1314
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: Fun it was that was. Fun that was. Fun you run,

1315
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: around you, know The phoenix locker. Room but that's naked like.

1316
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: THAT i have no talking. ABOUT i have no idea

1317
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: what you're talking. About the statue of limitation laying up

1318
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: on that yet.

1319
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 3: For doctor O'Neill.

1320
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 4: Advice as we, know doctor O'Neil is actually a, doctor

1321
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,879
Speaker 4: and if you want to leave one of your questions

1322
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 4: in the YouTube, comments please do or send an email

1323
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: to ask doctor O'Neil at gmail dot. Com quick, reminder

1324
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 4: doctor O'Neil's advice is for entertainment purposes. Only so much

1325
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 4: so we are MAKING Jj reddick a doctor as. Well

1326
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 4: if he wants to chime in and answer this. Question

1327
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 4: it's kind of an intense one. Today Barry dee From

1328
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: Little rock Asks doctor, O'Neill my fiance and my mom

1329
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 4: don't like each other and they're always talking about each

1330
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 4: other when the other isn't. Around they both want me

1331
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 4: to take their, side but, frankly doctor, O'Neil i'm tired

1332
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: of the.

1333
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 3: Drama what would you do if you were in my?

1334
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 5: Shoes, well it's the two answer. Question. Uh, first you

1335
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 5: should never let anybody talk about your, mother, right that's.

1336
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 5: Period and you know a lot of people like to

1337
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 5: say If mama don't like, her she's, Out BUT i

1338
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 5: have a fix for. That you need to go both

1339
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 5: to both of them and, say don't disrespect the other,

1340
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 5: one and you have to keep them separated until they

1341
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 5: learn how to coincide and interact with each. Other BUT

1342
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 5: i ain't gonna let nobody talk about my. Mama got

1343
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 5: me fucked up with that, one cuz, right you. Can't

1344
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 5: you can't have. It and you, KNOW i wouldn't let

1345
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 5: my mama talk about a person THAT i love like,

1346
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 5: That SO i would just have to be respectful and

1347
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 5: be like, mom just you, know please don't say, anything and,

1348
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 5: baby don't ever talk about my mom like. That just

1349
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 5: keep them separated until you figure out a way, to you,

1350
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 5: know so they can get to know each, other or

1351
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 5: you can just put them in a room together and

1352
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 5: just tell them to hash it.

1353
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: Out you, know it's you, know it's really. Interesting you're,

1354
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: married so be careful you answer. YOU i was just,

1355
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: say you know what's really interesting IS i got up

1356
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: this morning at my alarm went off at six am In,

1357
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: brooklyn AND i took a, shower put my clothes, on

1358
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: took my dog out to, pee take goodbye to my.

1359
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: Son the other son was out of, sleepover say goodbye

1360
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: to my, wife got on a, plane flew down here To.

1361
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: Atlanta and at no time from six am to two

1362
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: fourteen pm DID i THINK i was going to be

1363
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: giving out relationship. Advice so this is a real Shocked.

1364
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: So the side with, Shacks, yeah, yes it's just keep them.

1365
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 4: Separated oh, man, Uh i've had a blast. Today i'm

1366
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 4: excited to hear shack on the old man of the

1367
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 4: Three shack anything else FOR? Jj, no thank, you, brother,

1368
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 4: AWESOME jj reddick everybody.

1369
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 5: He gave THE SA i. Wanted Thanks.

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 6: Adam, yeah so.

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 5: You probably got the wight over me is The magic's

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01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 5: best big man. EVER i fucking dare you, said