Speaker 1: Good morning, and happy Pride.
Speaker 2: Pride, Happy Pride everyone. We are well. We're recording right now,
Speaker 2: which is complex, yes, because we're dealing with so many
Speaker 2: technical issues.
Speaker 1: It's actually I want everyone to know that we set
Speaker 1: a time to record and we were going to do
Speaker 1: a specific kind of episode. We were excited, and there
Speaker 1: have been technical issues that are beyond our control, and
Speaker 1: so we have made the difficult decision to re release
Speaker 1: an old episode.
Speaker 2: But we are doing it with Pride, that's right, because
Speaker 2: it's one of our favorite episodes of all time. It's
Speaker 2: from our series that we do once a year called
Speaker 2: Gadio Lab, where it's not straight topic, it's a gay topic,
Speaker 2: gay topic, folks.
Speaker 1: And so for Pride, we thought, yeah, sure we're going
Speaker 1: to do a Gadeo Lab, you know, for this year,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Gatio Lab. But why not wet your
Speaker 1: appetite with last year's Gatio Lab.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see how the other half lives, See how we've
Speaker 2: changed over a year.
Speaker 1: I actually remember this day really well because it was
Speaker 1: do you remember when I was hired to do Man
Speaker 1: on the Street interviews at Rudy Giuliani's birthday? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that day and I went from that recording to
Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani's eightieth birthday. Damn, and look how much it
Speaker 1: has changed the world has changed since then.
Speaker 2: I mean, you like brought him down. I did.
Speaker 1: It's true, I brought him down. But then, weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: through kind of the butterfly effect, Trump got reelected because
Speaker 1: I brought Julia Rudy Giuliani down.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the tough thing about sort of the EBB
Speaker 2: and flow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that me, espresso, that's not me.
Speaker 2: I've been flow. Yeah, that's right, because you know, it's
Speaker 2: like how Trump was elected the first time as like
Speaker 2: a racist backlash against Obama, whereas this one was a
Speaker 2: backlash against your man man on the Street video.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to say, we've come
Speaker 1: so far in the last year, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's nice to chicken on the past.
Speaker 2: Why not, Oh you got a check in on the past?
Speaker 1: Or you know, constant nostalgia we know is toxic, but
Speaker 1: occasional nostalgia. Don't mind if I do a little nostalgia
Speaker 1: small plates as a treat, kind of a small plates
Speaker 1: like tapas style nostalgia. Sure, I'm not gonna have a
Speaker 1: whole pizza pie of nostalgia, but don't have a little
Speaker 1: finger sandwich.
Speaker 2: Ooh why not?
Speaker 1: Yummy?
Speaker 2: Yummy, yummy yummy. It's funny that we're doing this intro
Speaker 2: right now and then like the episode's gonna start and
Speaker 2: there's gonna be another intro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but whatever, No, I like it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oops, all intro like our other famous classic.
Speaker 1: My god, now that was a famous classic app.
Speaker 2: You know what. I said something insane the other day
Speaker 2: that I have to tell you out loud, Okay, I
Speaker 2: was like I guests like Joanna Newsome like I was like,
Speaker 2: you kind of just sit with it, Like you have
Speaker 2: to be like like it's not like you're not gonna
Speaker 2: put it on the radio when you're with your girls,
Speaker 2: but like when you're like really wanting to sit with something,
Speaker 2: then you pop it on.
Speaker 1: I know I And that's I think why it is
Speaker 1: challenging to like, if you know, to give a little
Speaker 1: elevator pitch. It's like, yeah, it's about straight culture, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of about epistemology, and it's sort of and
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, like there's really not much
Speaker 1: I can do.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's about language.
Speaker 1: It's about language.
Speaker 2: And the relationship communication. Yes, then the.
Speaker 1: Relationship between language and reality. It's like things do get
Speaker 1: lost in translation, both when you translate reality into language
Speaker 1: and when you decode language into an idea of reality.
Speaker 2: Damn, are you watching Couples Therapy?
Speaker 1: This is not an episode, This is not This is
Speaker 1: not an episode. This is an intro. I am not
Speaker 1: watching Couples Therapy. But I did watch the first season
Speaker 1: of In, just the first episode of In. Just like that.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: We are like so not on the same cycle recently
Speaker 1: with media consumption. It's crazy. I know, it's fucked. We
Speaker 1: have to like sit down and make it. This is
Speaker 1: actually you know for Patreon listeners, you know that, uh
Speaker 1: that we heap. You know, did you watch this?
Speaker 2: Watch?
Speaker 1: Just did you watch this? And somehow we can't find commonality.
Speaker 2: We're always on a different point.
Speaker 1: We used to be so in sync.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fracturing of our media system is part
Speaker 2: of the reason.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy that it actually the fracturing of the
Speaker 1: media system also is happening on a smaller level between
Speaker 1: podcast co hosts in the same podcast. There is a
Speaker 1: fractured media ecosystem between one person that is watching and
Speaker 1: just like that and one person that is watching Couples Therapy.
Speaker 2: Do you think that like if like people that are
Speaker 2: like are like trying to make it big and podcasting, like,
Speaker 2: do you think they're like, Okay, so this week we
Speaker 2: have to watch these three things. Like even if it's
Speaker 2: not like a culture podcast, this week we're watching these
Speaker 2: three things.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, of course I long for the simplicity
Speaker 1: of having a Bravo podcast. Can you imagine it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know what everyone is watching, They're just eating up
Speaker 1: this slop and then they want a gay guy to
Speaker 1: be like e.
Speaker 2: I mean there's something like, you know how like consertive
Speaker 2: straight guy's crave working on a farm in this way,
Speaker 2: like the gay version of that is hosting a provo podcast. No,
Speaker 2: I know, everyone kind of fantasizes about like, damn, if
Speaker 2: things were simpler, I could just go to that studio
Speaker 2: and record that Bravo podcast.
Speaker 1: It's nice that we make things difficult for ourselves on
Speaker 1: purpose by not commenting on any kind of existing pop
Speaker 1: culture and just having to think of new ideas every week.
Speaker 1: And my new ideas of course, I do mean different
Speaker 1: perspectives on how New York is different than Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I know no, but we are going to. I think
Speaker 1: we're going to force ourselves to choose something to watch together.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've started the rehearsal from season one.
Speaker 2: Thank god I.
Speaker 1: Never watched it with the first time around. Started season one,
Speaker 1: I had an insane experience. Want to hear it?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Do you remember season one episode one? It was the
Speaker 1: guy that was wanted to friend that he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a master's degree. Yes, all right, watch that episode. Part
Speaker 1: of that episode is that Nathan Fielder is also rehearsing
Speaker 1: himself how to tell that guy that he did something
Speaker 1: or remember that he gave him the answers ahead of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. I go to a play last night. One
Speaker 1: of the actors is the actor that was playing that
Speaker 1: guy in the rehearsal.
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: And I was like, he looks so familiar. I must
Speaker 1: have seen him on like, you know, maybe had a
Speaker 1: guest spot on uh some like on s view or something,
Speaker 1: as all theater actors do. Nope, he was in the rehearsal.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: One of the other actors on the first episode of
Speaker 1: and just like that oh, we're living in a panoptic
Speaker 1: on folks.
Speaker 2: Folks, it's all a simulation. Well, I met a bear
Speaker 2: at hot Dog Okay, the party in LA and we
Speaker 2: exchanged instagrams and of course he plays a sound guy
Speaker 2: on the rehearsal season two.
Speaker 1: Whoa. You know what I'm realizing, was this bear otherwise
Speaker 1: like a professional actor?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he's an actor.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think the actors are hiring. This is an
Speaker 1: obvious thing to say, because obviously the show is very good.
Speaker 1: I think they're hiring based on what I'm seeing, like
Speaker 1: real theater actors, like real uh you know, not.
Speaker 2: People off the street, people that are giving grounded.
Speaker 1: People that are like that, like went to Juilliard or
Speaker 1: Julie Art as you once called you.
Speaker 2: Well, it's confusing because it starts because it's an art school,
Speaker 2: but it's not named Julie Art, so that's really complicated. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I have another update.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm exploring different non alcoholic beverages because I'm Kelly sober
Speaker 1: for medical reasons. For a few months, I bought with
Speaker 1: my own money. They did not send this to us.
Speaker 1: I bought these seltzers called guess what they're called wink.
Speaker 1: They're called wink with a y w y n K.
Speaker 2: Well that's fun.
Speaker 1: And so I bought a three pack. I have lime, tangerine,
Speaker 1: and I have black cherry. I tried the lime when
Speaker 1: I have to say there, it's not my favorite, But
Speaker 1: I think I have to get used to the idea
Speaker 1: of a thhc seltzer, like it's a different kind of flavor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the thing, the big issue with weed
Speaker 2: is that there is no mature way to consume it,
Speaker 2: Like there's no way to make you feel like a
Speaker 2: fancy grown up. It always is like and now I'm
Speaker 2: a teen. Now I'm a teen having like sour cush.
Speaker 1: But don't you think that there's another one called can
Speaker 1: spelled c A n N And I have had those
Speaker 1: and they're really good. They just have more sugar and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be, you know, a little healthier of course,
Speaker 1: but those I actually think those were sold to me
Speaker 1: as like this is what all the park Slope moms
Speaker 1: drink when they're like with the kids. So that's adult.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's true. Damn big yawn on the pod, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on pod to lock me up and throw away the key.
Speaker 2: I'm a little sleepy today.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like wish we could just keep talking, but.
Speaker 2: I know so one of the technical difficulties is that
Speaker 2: George is sort of living in a horror movie where
Speaker 2: his computer charger isn't working, so he's at thirty percent
Speaker 2: and dropping.
Speaker 1: I'm actually at eleven percent.
Speaker 2: Just f one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was at thirty percent of the
Speaker 1: beginning of this conversation. Basically, what is going on is
Speaker 1: that I can either use my MIC or charge my computer. So,
Speaker 1: just so everyone's aware of the issue, you might be thinking,
Speaker 1: could we release an episode where I'm using, you know,
Speaker 1: my headphone mic. Yes, but that would actually make me
Speaker 1: so violently angry to release something so low quality for
Speaker 1: our dear listeners that I would have to commit instant Soku.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So are you going to the Genius Bar sometime
Speaker 2: this week? Or yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I have to. I guess I
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 2: Well, folks, since Shorg's at eleven percent, I almost feel
Speaker 2: that we should it up.
Speaker 1: I guess we should wrap it up. I do want
Speaker 1: to say, you know, if you're craving more content, we
Speaker 1: are releasing two Patreon episodes a month over at patreon
Speaker 1: dot com. Slash Stradio Lab and like I said, we
Speaker 1: are gonna choose something. We're gonna choose something to watch
Speaker 1: together and do, like a TV club or a movie club.
Speaker 1: Because it's been a while. It's been a while I
Speaker 1: was craving doing in just like that. But see how
Speaker 1: you feel when you watch it, Sam.
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen pretty mixed reviews. Some people are like,
Speaker 2: this is the worst show I've ever seen. I'm never
Speaker 2: watching this show again.
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's like the whole point of the show.
Speaker 2: Did you see that fucking party? Did you go to
Speaker 2: the party, the premiere party for it? No? But I
Speaker 2: the stiletto, the ice sculpture of a stiletto with like
Speaker 2: shellfish in it. I was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Like Rome is burning and we're eating shellfish out of
Speaker 2: a stiletto.
Speaker 1: So crazy.
Speaker 2: But obviously I was obsessed and grateful that some glamorous
Speaker 2: toll exists in the world, even if, of course I
Speaker 2: can only see it from a FI.
Speaker 1: I sometimes I'm more grateful for events I'm not invited to.
Speaker 2: That's true, because when you're there, you're like, actually, the sucks,
Speaker 2: But when you see it in pictures, you're like, damn
Speaker 2: I wish I had been there.
Speaker 1: You're like, God, you know, I want to say, actually,
Speaker 1: broad strokes, I'm so proud of publicists.
Speaker 2: Lately.
Speaker 1: They've been killing it.
Speaker 2: Publicists are eating, they're eating.
Speaker 1: I actually think there was a point when, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a point when they didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do because it was like, oh God, new media is rising,
Speaker 1: like it no longer is enough to pitch a story
Speaker 1: to the New York Times. And I think now they're
Speaker 1: kind of in their reputation era and they're like, let's
Speaker 1: fucking go, bitch, my name is Kendra, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send that email.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, this person just randomly films themselves in
Speaker 2: parks and you're going on.
Speaker 1: You're going on, Paul Meskall.
Speaker 2: It's become really really crazy. It's also become this interesting
Speaker 2: excuse of mine where whenever anyone's like getting a lot
Speaker 2: of attention and people are like start complaining, like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're not getting famous, they just have a good publicist,
Speaker 2: it's like a fun way to.
Speaker 1: Like carry them down.
Speaker 2: And it's also true.
Speaker 1: It's also true because guess what, all these things don't
Speaker 1: actually exist. We're all hallucinating. Subway takes is not real.
Speaker 2: The only thing that's real is like, Zendia is famous, yes, famous,
Speaker 2: it's all literally the only thing that's real.
Speaker 1: And sports sports is real, and Zendia Israel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's literally and Donald Trump and unfortunately Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Those are the big three. So you got to hitch
Speaker 1: your wag into one of those horses.
Speaker 2: And I'm choosing Zendia.
Speaker 1: I'm choosing Zendia.
Speaker 2: Damn. You know. When we started, we were both like,
Speaker 2: you know, sort of it's a blessing that we're having
Speaker 2: technical issues because we weren't in the mutual Record and
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I wish we could record.
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm in the Mutual Record. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because I met nine percent.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, let's wrap it up joy Gatia
Speaker 2: Lab with Celeste and you'll have a new Gatia Lab
Speaker 2: for this year in the next week.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's a good guest. It's a
Speaker 1: really good, really good guest, repeat guest. So we'll let
Speaker 1: you decide who you think it is. Okay, okay, bye.
Speaker 1: Podcast starts now, and let me just say happy Pride.
Speaker 2: It's officially June, which is Pride month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, more than ever, Yes, June, more than ever.
Speaker 1: This time comes but once a year, June usually once
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 2: George, how are you celebrating? You know this is tough.
Speaker 1: Because you know, to give everyone a peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: It's currently May thirty first. Oh, so I don't feel
Speaker 1: proud yet.
Speaker 2: I hate when you give it and I have to.
Speaker 1: It is so difficult to think twenty four hours from now,
Speaker 1: not even you know, twelve hours from now, even I
Speaker 1: will feel so proud. I'm going to wake up fully erect,
Speaker 1: ready to take on the day, Ready to buy some products,
Speaker 1: Ready to RSVP to some Facebook events, potentially activations, launches,
Speaker 1: what have you? Ready to join apollicule, Ready to welcome
Speaker 1: a third person into my polyamorous relationship. Ready to book
Speaker 1: a trip to Fire Island mikonos Ebitha, You know, yes,
Speaker 1: and I know Abeta is sort of actually kind of
Speaker 1: straight coded. But when I go, it's going to be
Speaker 1: Pride Month themed and you.
Speaker 2: Won't let the straight codedness of Hibetha stop your phone.
Speaker 2: Living on is your true authentic See, it's.
Speaker 1: Going to be me at various parties. Pit Bull is
Speaker 1: going to be DJing, and it's going to be all
Speaker 1: Instagram models, and then I'm going to walk in and say,
Speaker 1: who here has seen.
Speaker 2: Weekend?
Speaker 1: That film, the Andrew Haye Film Weekend, And all of
Speaker 1: them are gonna be like what yeah, And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be like, that's what I thought, bitch. And then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna introduce them to queer cinema. You're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: DJ put this on, DJ put this on, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the film Weekend. It's gonna be a DVD
Speaker 1: of the film Weekend, and they're gonna screen it for
Speaker 1: a variety of Instagram influencers, models.
Speaker 2: Et cetera. Wow, that would be so exciting.
Speaker 1: So that's called grassroots organizing. And I do a drink
Speaker 1: Pride month and no other time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really helpful. How are you celebrating Pride?
Speaker 2: I just don't know, if I am really completely honest,
Speaker 2: this is a tough year. I can't celebrate anything this year.
Speaker 2: I can't celebrate I feel because you have a desk job,
Speaker 2: because essentially, essentially I feel like, you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: man at sea. I'm completely lost, you know, celebrating Pride
Speaker 2: it's sort of like, what how about I have a home? First?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. But do you think do
Speaker 1: you think you can't be prideful unless you have, you know,
Speaker 1: a nuclear family and home ownership, because that actually, to
Speaker 1: me goes against the whole premise of pride.
Speaker 2: No, I don't need a nuclear family. I just don't know,
Speaker 2: like I think what I'm missing Actually, yeah, is that
Speaker 2: pride is something where you're like, Okay, normally on my
Speaker 2: let's say, in the month of May, this is what
Speaker 2: I do. This is normal. So June, I'm not doing
Speaker 2: that because I'm being abnormal this year I'm having you're
Speaker 2: having You're.
Speaker 1: Having a difficult time being like, how can I change
Speaker 1: my habit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I don't have habits right now?
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't have habits raining?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm completely at sea. Well, I mean I have
Speaker 2: a job, sure, I go to every day, but outside
Speaker 2: of the job, what am I habits? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's so interesting. You actually have the most stable, maybe
Speaker 1: the most stable schedule you've ever had since I've known you. No,
Speaker 1: but for you, that is being at.
Speaker 2: I'm actually more reckless than ever before. I'm completely lost.
Speaker 2: I yes, I have I know where I am Monday
Speaker 2: through Friday, between the hours that one works, yeah, but
Speaker 2: other than.
Speaker 1: That, you're having dinner walking your dog.
Speaker 2: I'm completely at sea, George, I can't believe this, okay,
Speaker 2: And also, like I think also the commitment of like
Speaker 2: when people celebrate Pride, part of me is like, what
Speaker 2: are you talking? What do you mean? Like? Define that
Speaker 2: for me? And a lot of the definition for a
Speaker 2: lot of people is like, well, I buy fourteen tickets
Speaker 2: to events and go to it. Yeah, And to me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't like committing like that. No. I actually.
Speaker 1: I felt like we had reached a very nice balance
Speaker 1: at some point where everyone decided like, Okay, we're too
Speaker 1: you know, fill in the blank, old sophisticated, intellectual.
Speaker 2: Well read for Pride, and.
Speaker 1: So I would say, you know, for the for let's say,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen through twenty eighteen. I was like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I would never imagine going to a Pride party. And
Speaker 1: then suddenly people got back into it and fully blown
Speaker 1: thirty eight year old men were like, what are you
Speaker 1: doing for Pride? And I was like, we're not in college.
Speaker 2: I have to say, you grow up too fast. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, you grow up too fast. Using twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: you think you're over at twenty fifteen, you were what
Speaker 2: twenty six, that's like the normal age to be like going.
Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is like, we are so
Speaker 1: lucky that we live in these urban, cosmopolitan centers with
Speaker 1: a variety of LGBTQ plus people.
Speaker 2: Pride is every day. For me.
Speaker 1: What is different about June? I just it literally is
Speaker 1: just that you're over paid. Now, I understand that this
Speaker 1: is a very sort of basic first order critique that
Speaker 1: I'm making. I don't think I'm reinventing the wheel here,
Speaker 1: but like, what is the point of a party being
Speaker 1: different in the month of June?
Speaker 2: Tell me? Just like, you know, what it is is
Speaker 2: that everyone's committed to having a little more fun. Like
Speaker 2: I think it gives people an excuse to be like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to be bad because I
Speaker 2: think so often, you know, let's say in the month
Speaker 2: of April, I keep going back a month They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm out, but it's it's one am. I should go home.
Speaker 2: Now you're out. It's one am. People were like, You're like,
Speaker 2: I should go you know what, Actually, no, it's fucking
Speaker 2: pride and I'm staying out till four because you know
Speaker 2: what this means something and I'm here with all my
Speaker 2: sisters and we did it.
Speaker 1: You know what you're describing actually is how it felt
Speaker 1: when booking this episode is I said, this isn't just
Speaker 1: any normal episode.
Speaker 2: What No? I agree. I just wanted to make a face,
Speaker 2: to be honest, and I think our guest want to
Speaker 2: make a face as well, because it was great face. Well,
Speaker 2: it was like a fun transition that added it. I
Speaker 2: think what was funny to me about it was that
Speaker 2: it added a lot of weight to this. I agree.
Speaker 1: Well, I also it is true that like and in fact,
Speaker 1: actually I have to say, our dear producer Olivia at
Speaker 1: some point emailed us and was like, do you have
Speaker 1: anything special plan for Pride? And literally my first reaction
Speaker 1: was like, no, shut up, I'm an adult. And then
Speaker 1: I had to reach inside myself and say, why are
Speaker 1: you rejecting your sense of childlike wonder, why are you
Speaker 1: rejecting pride something our four mothers fought so hard for?
Speaker 2: You have such an urge to grow up?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about this, you know, for so long,
Speaker 1: for all my twenties, I wanted to grow up. Now
Speaker 1: that I am a grown up. I'm like, I need
Speaker 1: to enter middle school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to go back.
Speaker 1: I want to go back.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're about to be the thirty eight year
Speaker 2: old gig guy being like, what are you doing for Pride? Okay,
Speaker 2: well I have a few more years left.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not literally you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we said, we decided, we remembered. You know,
Speaker 1: last year we started a new tradition, which is that
Speaker 1: for Pride we do an episode called Gatio Lab. We
Speaker 1: are rather than talking about a straight topic, we talk
Speaker 1: about a gay topic, and we do it with basically
Speaker 1: a Streeter lab all star.
Speaker 2: One could say, Okay.
Speaker 1: Someone who's been there from the beginning, someone who's done
Speaker 1: multiple episodes, live shows, someone who I would say helped
Speaker 1: helped define the spirit of the podcast and associated brand,
Speaker 1: Wow under the iHeartRadio umbro.
Speaker 2: So do you want to do the honors? Please give
Speaker 2: it up for Celestium? Wow?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 4: How are you guys?
Speaker 2: Really good?
Speaker 4: We are so good actually doing with you and Pride? Yeah?
Speaker 4: With me and yeah and Sam.
Speaker 1: Well, it does seem like we both have a torture
Speaker 1: relationship with Pride. This year.
Speaker 2: Well, I just here's what I go ahead. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: just I can't live with abandon.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Here's here's my issue with Pride.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's both your issues kind of.
Speaker 1: We can't live with Oh please, I haven't lived with
Speaker 1: abandon since I was in the womb, since I was
Speaker 1: in the Woman being Slash slash Slash. As soon as
Speaker 1: I got out, I was like, where's.
Speaker 4: My dad's get a button up now?
Speaker 1: So here's the thing with Pride this year, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to try to work through this in real time.
Speaker 1: For so long, the joke with Pride was it's overly corporate.
Speaker 1: I'll meet you at the Chase Bank flow. Everyone is
Speaker 1: marching wearing their corporate teas whatever. Last year this thing
Speaker 1: happened where because there was so much backlash with anti
Speaker 1: trans legislation and with like people protesting you know, Target's
Speaker 1: Pride collection or whatever. Suddenly even the corporate pride felt
Speaker 1: like important. Somehow do you relate to this at all?
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Like there is something where
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, this thing that I've
Speaker 1: been making fun of for so long actually is like
Speaker 1: it literally is dangerous for target to put out a
Speaker 1: Pride collection. People are gonna come with a gun and
Speaker 1: protest suddenly, and so that and on top of that,
Speaker 1: what happened last year and people may not remember, is
Speaker 1: the sort of like held you be to Q plus
Speaker 1: creators and influencer didn't get gigs and work because people
Speaker 1: were doing fewer Pride campaigns. And suddenly I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute again, all these people that I've been
Speaker 1: making fun of, are they now being marginalized? And should
Speaker 1: I be on the front lines advocating for Instagram influencers
Speaker 1: and Instagram creators to get that Brooklyn and campaign now
Speaker 1: that Brooklyn is terrified of being seen as pro LGBT totally,
Speaker 1: And so where are we? So where are we now?
Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's really smart, George, good job, good job. I
Speaker 4: didn't think of that.
Speaker 3: And the last year I actually kind of completely forgot
Speaker 3: that that happened.
Speaker 1: But do you remember what I'm saying? It was kind
Speaker 1: of shocking because you're used.
Speaker 3: To every backlash, backlash, backlash, You're used.
Speaker 1: To every year, Suddenly you open Instagram and every random
Speaker 1: person you follow for some reason is partnering with the brand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and suddenly that didn't happen last year.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, it's hard because it's like we're going to
Speaker 3: have to see, We're gonna have to see.
Speaker 2: I think maybe this is a rebuilding year. Maybe this
Speaker 2: is like maybe last year we were it's a transitional period.
Speaker 1: It's a transitional period.
Speaker 2: Maybe this year we can build some new traditions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, outside of brands, Outside of brands, it will be hard.
Speaker 1: It will be hard. I'm not seeing any a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, communal pot lucks happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how well, celest we haven't dug into your feelings. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how do you feel about Pride?
Speaker 1: Where are you at with Pride as a concept this year?
Speaker 3: I missed Pride last year because I was traveling m
Speaker 3: Okay with my girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Oh who I have won? So I kind of feel
Speaker 4: excited to be here this year. But it's not feeling as.
Speaker 3: Like both like intents about like the parties, and it's
Speaker 3: not feeling as like I.
Speaker 4: Do some panels or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't really know, Like I think we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Pride, you do I do?
Speaker 1: What do you like about it?
Speaker 4: I like that it's like everyone has to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's a good point.
Speaker 3: You know, like it's like can't opt out exactly. It's
Speaker 3: actually a lot like birthday. It's like it's my birthday,
Speaker 3: I'm going to stay out. Yeah, you know, it's like
Speaker 3: we all have to gather because it only happens once
Speaker 3: a year and involves us all because we love.
Speaker 2: I think also what's it also has a thing I
Speaker 2: love a communal day like in general and like like
Speaker 2: for example, like I think the comparison is my parents
Speaker 2: are not like religious, but like Easter comes and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: we're celebrating what we're doing something, and that's sort of
Speaker 2: my like religship. I think.
Speaker 3: I also think, like, okay, how do I put this?
Speaker 3: I think it's like what may pride so like delicious
Speaker 3: in the past few years, like maybe before yeah, I
Speaker 3: think before this year was that it was like it
Speaker 3: harkened to the time of like a monocultural celebration point
Speaker 3: which was so rare, and now monoculture is a little
Speaker 3: bit back, and I think it's making it less like
Speaker 3: there's less of a craving past something we're all doing.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I actually, you know, the study of whether or
Speaker 1: not monoculture is back is approximately ninety percent of what
Speaker 1: both of us think about. So I do need you
Speaker 1: to make your argument about why you think monocultures.
Speaker 4: You guys have different opinions about this.
Speaker 1: I think we have relatively relatively similar opinions about it.
Speaker 4: I think there have been a few moments within the past,
Speaker 4: like Barbinheimer nine to twelve months.
Speaker 3: Yes, starting maybe with Barbenheimer, but Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift,
Speaker 3: even Espresso then the eclipse, yeah, even the Olympics coming.
Speaker 1: This is interesting because we were saying that is actually
Speaker 1: an example of how monoculture is not back, because can
Speaker 1: you believe I.
Speaker 3: Didn't like the feeling of me saying something and you
Speaker 3: guys both saying no.
Speaker 1: Episode, and I really and and by the way, I
Speaker 1: want to be on your side because no one is
Speaker 1: a bigger Olympics stand than me. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: literally my culture, of course. And I we were at
Speaker 1: we did our live show in Los Angeles last week's
Speaker 1: shout out to the tu awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really awesome.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 1: And one of the things we did for our famous
Speaker 1: segment based on your copy, based on your trademark copyright
Speaker 1: issue there yet was the Olympics, and every single person
Speaker 1: in the room was like wait what.
Speaker 2: They were like, it's in Paris this year.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassed, wait this summer, and we were like I was.
Speaker 1: I in fact, it was like, yeah, it's starting in
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks and people were like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: And I was know what that's true, like you are
Speaker 3: not hearing about the Olympics, and people keeping like.
Speaker 2: He had no idea, like.
Speaker 1: The Oscars, like you know how the Oscars is fully
Speaker 1: and by the way, the mechalo this year also did
Speaker 1: not feel monocultural, right.
Speaker 2: It literally felt like.
Speaker 4: That's I guess what I'm saying about pride.
Speaker 1: Like you're I'm allowing this, but you're hear.
Speaker 3: Hear no, no, no, hear me, because it's like, because
Speaker 3: there are other things that are satiating us to all
Speaker 3: talk to, like our parents and our friends and our
Speaker 3: teachers and creatures about the regular things aren't feeling oh.
Speaker 4: Like they're making a big splash.
Speaker 1: So you're saying because of the monocultural impact of espresso
Speaker 1: Barbenheimer and the Eclipse, the met Gala and the Olympics
Speaker 1: are less pride, and pride are less monocultural.
Speaker 4: Rented what else.
Speaker 2: So you're I think this is genius. A lot of
Speaker 2: we are being well fed monoculture wise.
Speaker 4: Exactly, so we don't need to eat.
Speaker 1: So there's less pressure on pride to be monoculture that's
Speaker 1: what you're saying. And we can make it our own.
Speaker 3: Is that not that there's less pressure, just that there's
Speaker 3: less like we don't need it as bad.
Speaker 2: It's like when you have a lot of vacation time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like if you're like on vacation for a month, you
Speaker 2: don't need to like party every night. Well, I'm I've
Speaker 2: got enough time.
Speaker 4: Exactly. You should talk more about vacation in this shirt.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are so and actually.
Speaker 4: Kind of white shirt is kind of vacation, that's true.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Really me, I'm.
Speaker 4: In midtown with my shirt.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is all I feel like. You're brilliant.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know, my dream, of course, is to
Speaker 1: be able to be one of those fashionable gay man
Speaker 1: that is wearing the simplest possible outfit and yet you
Speaker 1: look like you're in head to toe.
Speaker 2: You're pretty close to that, though.
Speaker 1: I do think I think I maybe need different shoes
Speaker 1: but I think like a Crisp Oxford shirt, Gene, I think.
Speaker 4: You're like a basic legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: That you're a basic legend. You're pretty much like a
Speaker 3: splash of water in the face to mean from me,
Speaker 3: like hello you.
Speaker 1: I mean you do have you to take fashion risks,
Speaker 1: but when you're at your most blazer, you are basic
Speaker 1: legends exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel really understood right now, not like before.
Speaker 1: How many blazers do you own?
Speaker 2: You can't just ask someone that.
Speaker 4: Allow it five or six?
Speaker 1: Okay, because I've always wondered is it that you have
Speaker 1: one and it's your signature, or is it that there
Speaker 1: are a few and there there is very subtle.
Speaker 4: I like to vary it up, but I like to
Speaker 4: look the same time.
Speaker 3: I don't want someone to see me and say, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're wearing something that you don't normally
Speaker 3: wear and then people like are complimenting it, and you're like.
Speaker 1: You're you're offending me.
Speaker 3: Well you I know that what you're feeling is I'm
Speaker 3: looking different, and so you're saying I like your sweater exactly.
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I actually have reached a point where I think all
Speaker 1: compliments are insults, They're just notices.
Speaker 4: It should be you should be able to notice something
Speaker 4: more easily in our culture.
Speaker 2: But how much would it hurt for someone to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: are noticing your sweater? No, exactly, that would be miserable, Like.
Speaker 4: You're wearing a shirt that I'm seeing.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, I see. I have a different approach obviously
Speaker 2: to what clothes. If you want to be a basic legend,
Speaker 2: I feel like I want to always be like, oh,
Speaker 2: you think I can't do that. I can do that.
Speaker 2: Oh you think I can't. Oh I can do that.
Speaker 4: I really love to be like, don't say to me
Speaker 4: that I can't do that, because.
Speaker 2: I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 1: Well, but you, I mean your entire fashion. Uh oh,
Speaker 1: you could hurt your entire fashion. Outlook is basically reclaiming
Speaker 1: various elements of Americana. That can be anything from cowboys,
Speaker 1: true the cowboy. It can be school boy, it can
Speaker 1: be midwestern dad. It can be like, you know, construction worker.
Speaker 1: But it is various different forms of American masculinity. And
Speaker 1: you're waking up every day and you're saying, which of
Speaker 1: them am I going to interrogate?
Speaker 4: No, that's you're our American boy.
Speaker 2: I do love to do that. I can't help it.
Speaker 2: I've gotten so addicted to Western stuff since.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sam was wearing these cowboy boots and he
Speaker 1: told me I bought cowboy boots. I said, right, I
Speaker 1: believe it when I see it. These are like some
Speaker 1: of the best cowboy boots I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to see that. I would
Speaker 3: love to see you wearing those.
Speaker 2: I almost wore them to New York, but I said,
Speaker 2: that's going to take up so much space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point, you would have to wear them
Speaker 1: on the plane. And suddenly you're the person taking off
Speaker 1: cowboy boots. You're the thing they're like, is he.
Speaker 2: Right wing when you take whenever you take off cowboy boots. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it implies so much because it's really like like I
Speaker 2: was that these like my parents' friend's house, and I
Speaker 2: like took off my cowboy boots and I was immediately like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a little boy. Like they think I'm a little boy.
Speaker 2: They think I like got bonked on the head and
Speaker 2: I think I'm.
Speaker 4: In the motion. There's like they're just to take them off.
Speaker 1: Like very like yeah, like a cartoon of like short
Speaker 1: man wearing boots and then takes them off and he's
Speaker 1: cartoonishly shorter. He's like a foot shorters.
Speaker 4: Of course, Like it really changes who you are.
Speaker 1: Can I say something about cowboy boots? I actually think
Speaker 1: I do not feel safe enough to reclaim cowboy boots
Speaker 1: in any way, Like to me, they are still a
Speaker 1: symbol of like the George W.
Speaker 4: Bush E finished, well, that's exactly what Sam's fashion like.
Speaker 2: M O.
Speaker 1: Yes, because you were saying anything, you think I can't
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 4: Oh I can do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's sometimes at backfires, but every once in
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: Huh, you think I.
Speaker 4: Can do that?
Speaker 2: I can do that.
Speaker 1: That should be the title of your memoir.
Speaker 2: Do you think I can't do that?
Speaker 1: Question? Mark, I could do that.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 3: The feeling that I'm having saying those words is like
Speaker 3: eating a candy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had another thing recently that I didn't think was weird.
Speaker 2: I was eating with Claire Ocaine recently and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'll have a cold brew and Claire was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't see coldbrew on the menu, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't see it anyway. I just said it. It
Speaker 2: was like, that's so crazy, and I was like, that's
Speaker 2: not crazy. It's a restaurant. I'm sure they'll have it.
Speaker 4: Did they They did? Of course.
Speaker 1: Do you ever order off menu at restaurants?
Speaker 4: Of course not.
Speaker 2: No, I would.
Speaker 1: I would rather literally like rip out my shirt and
Speaker 1: perform a Satanic ritual in the middle of La Cirque
Speaker 1: than order than be like, can I just have two
Speaker 1: sliced tomatoes with some ev on top?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, for food, I would never ever for drinks something.
Speaker 4: There are people that who don't try to be with us.
Speaker 3: If you're with us, you're with us. But if you're not,
Speaker 3: it's okays.
Speaker 1: Actually, but I do agree that for drinks, I'm like,
Speaker 1: if there's a bar, you should be able to make
Speaker 1: anything I asked for. I am not looking at To me,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no bigger defeat than looking at a
Speaker 1: cocktail menu. Like, have a sense of self and know
Speaker 1: what you want and trust your gut. Yeah, do not
Speaker 1: order the you know red hot fire emoji.
Speaker 2: You know what I wish? Actually, I wish they would
Speaker 2: hand you the be like, and here's our cocktail menu
Speaker 2: and have some amazing options. You open it and just
Speaker 2: sys like lauram if some Laura I like I get
Speaker 2: that they want to hand you something, but it's sort
Speaker 2: of like your best Yeah, no.
Speaker 1: They should the next time they hand me one, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rip ribb it into tiny pieces of throwing out.
Speaker 4: And that's a polite that's a polite thing to do.
Speaker 2: That's what they do in friends.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my god, what is it again? I didn't
Speaker 4: see it. I just didn't see it. I just that's amazing, Sam,
Speaker 4: that's another great title.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. Really. I was like, and sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: when you're reflected back, you're like, whoa, I didn't realize.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the origin of you think I can't
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: I can do that. Wow?
Speaker 1: Should we do our first segment? I almost want to
Speaker 1: just get it out of the way so we can
Speaker 1: get into the meet.
Speaker 4: What are the segments have done?
Speaker 2: I wonder you're about to find out? Well, this one,
Speaker 2: since we're doing this is a very special Pride episode
Speaker 2: Stadio Lab. So we're gonna do our famous gay Lab
Speaker 2: segment Gay Shooters. Oh yes, oh right, yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: a little bit different. It's a twist on the famous
Speaker 2: segment straight Shooters of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, I I knew that the entire time
Speaker 1: and wrote those.
Speaker 2: I wrote mine with that in mind. Of course, of
Speaker 2: course I knew that as well.
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you guys. I've done so many episodes.
Speaker 1: We actually have done Infinity episodes. Just for the first
Speaker 1: podcast to do Infinity episode.
Speaker 2: It actually is kind of crazy because in my mind,
Speaker 2: I'm still like we're just getting started. It's like we've
Speaker 2: done this since it's been like four years.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was on I think in twenty four you.
Speaker 2: Are on pre pandemic. Yes, yeah, you were on pre Pandemic.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking on my commute over here that
Speaker 3: I remember the commute to the first episode being very long.
Speaker 2: It was like and.
Speaker 4: Once again took me kind of a bit to get here.
Speaker 1: Respect, I mean, to go from Bushwick to Midtown is
Speaker 1: the ultimate hero's journey?
Speaker 3: Well well, I mean that was there's money, that was
Speaker 3: there's lights in this room, yeah, argue. Well, yes, well,
Speaker 3: so many episodes, and I just am proud, Like legit.
Speaker 4: I was looking at the episodes and I was like,
Speaker 4: they have truly done so many since I was here.
Speaker 3: Many so and even trying to come up with a topic,
Speaker 3: one could say it was impossible. Yeah, which kind of
Speaker 3: brought me to.
Speaker 1: My well, I will say, you're I respect that it
Speaker 1: was impossible. Course, I respect it was impossible, but you are,
Speaker 1: in fact, only the second guest to ever do a
Speaker 1: gay topical. So there.
Speaker 4: I wasn't really thinking that. I was more going, what
Speaker 4: should I talk about? Even one thing? Yeah, totally, that's
Speaker 4: actually we'll get into it.
Speaker 2: Well. I also do want to say a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate you saying you're proud of us.
Speaker 2: There's something it's about saying for doing so many episodes
Speaker 2: that sounds a little bit like I'm noticing your shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do think it's not. Sort of, there's there's been
Speaker 2: no value.
Speaker 4: Judgment, so I said a long time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's just a lot of episodes and the
Speaker 2: amount of time that has been spent on this.
Speaker 4: Let me try again.
Speaker 1: No, No, I think you said enough, and I think
Speaker 1: it's time to do our first segment.
Speaker 2: Gay show.
Speaker 4: I think you should go.
Speaker 1: So, so that's in this segment, we test your familiarity
Speaker 1: with and complicity in gay culture by asking you a
Speaker 1: series of rapid fire questions where you have to choose
Speaker 1: this thing or this other thing. Sam take it.
Speaker 2: Away, okay, Neil Patrick Harris or Michael Patrick King.
Speaker 1: Neil guilty on thirty four counts or milking an herbivore cow.
Speaker 2: Cow Okay, the mark of the beast, or the mark
Speaker 2: that you met at the feast, the.
Speaker 4: Mark that you met at the feast.
Speaker 1: Mean girls or bean dip.
Speaker 2: Bean dip obviously, having a rich cultural heritage or having
Speaker 2: a rich father doesn't give a shit. Oh damn that.
Speaker 4: This segment has changed since I was here.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's I do remember in the beginning we
Speaker 1: would do like maybe one silly one, but then the
Speaker 1: rest would literally be like blue or black right right,
Speaker 1: whereas now there are.
Speaker 4: Like gorgeous like wordplay.
Speaker 1: Well, we've you know, we've put it on a lot
Speaker 1: of top ten thousand hours.
Speaker 4: Ye, Malcolm, can I get Can I get yours again?
Speaker 2: Sam? Yeah, it was having a rich cultural heritage or
Speaker 2: having a rich father doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 4: Rich father who doesn't give a ship totally.
Speaker 1: The Pope is homophobic or I hope it isn't COVID
Speaker 1: the pope.
Speaker 2: Okay, praying to God or blowing your wat Oh that's good.
Speaker 4: Praying to God.
Speaker 1: Caviatelly with broccoli, rob and sausage, or Donna Tella VERSACEI
Speaker 1: is a boss bitch.
Speaker 4: Is a boss bitch?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: That was really good.
Speaker 2: No, that was amazing. What do you think sleast got?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying, I was trying to remember. Do we,
Speaker 1: for Gatio lab change the meter from zero to one
Speaker 1: thousand doves to something else? Maybe we go zero to
Speaker 1: negative one thousand, you know, but holes and and and
Speaker 1: kind of go into a more queer art of failure.
Speaker 1: So the less the less of a oh or you have,
Speaker 1: the lower score you have, the better you did wow
Speaker 1: or something along those lines.
Speaker 2: Sure, well in that case, in that case, I.
Speaker 1: Think you got negative nine hundred twenty seven butt holes
Speaker 1: out of how many?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 1: Negative one thousand? Pretty good, pretty good, pretty deep, pretty good.
Speaker 4: This podcast has really changed since I was last year.
Speaker 2: What are the changes? Yeah, what are the changes?
Speaker 4: You're not remember a score?
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you don't remember the scoresman, No, no,
Speaker 1: first step, we came up with the score like sort
Speaker 1: of as we went. Certainly the score was you know,
Speaker 1: canonized by the time you did your second appearance, but
Speaker 1: not when you.
Speaker 2: Recorded because CHROMATICA hadn't come out yet. Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's it's zero to one thousand, doves normally.
Speaker 4: Do you believe I was on post pre.
Speaker 1: Chromatic one of the rare dramatic agains.
Speaker 2: I mean that is wild actually, and you were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first live show we ever did issue there yet?
Speaker 2: Right, Wow, how have you changed? Yeah? How have you changed?
Speaker 2: You look really different. Yeah, a lot of work done.
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, just my nose, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a nose inserted in the back of
Speaker 1: your before your before your face was flat.
Speaker 4: I have been on the front and the back. We
Speaker 4: should do more characters, I agree.
Speaker 2: Now, what would your debut character be, mister Gringer? I
Speaker 2: love that one.
Speaker 1: That's one of your classic characters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, got me, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: They said, great character, we're going to make them a writer.
Speaker 4: You've shown that you can do development and premise work
Speaker 4: really well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what matters in this industry, in this town,
Speaker 2: in this town, this towndging.
Speaker 4: Over the mics.
Speaker 2: So that's.
Speaker 4: That's part of mister finger Beans.
Speaker 2: Get into it.
Speaker 1: Bringer Beans is the.
Speaker 3: Name careful making fun of me because recurring segments for
Speaker 3: the whole for the rest of the time describe.
Speaker 1: What are mister gringer beans qualities?
Speaker 3: I guess the way I came up with it was.
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of one single.
Speaker 4: Word or last thing that's part of his story. I
Speaker 4: didn't know.
Speaker 1: Well for anyone watching it home, you sort of did
Speaker 1: an exaggerated uh scratch, face scratch. So maybe part of
Speaker 1: mister gringer Bean is like little what don't keep going
Speaker 1: the little these little things everyone does, uh little dressers. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: little dressers, crossing your legs, clapping, snapping your fingers, rubbing
Speaker 1: your eyes, eyes base exactly. It is someone who in
Speaker 1: all other ways is normal, has clipped this.
Speaker 2: By the way, no, this is a clip. This is
Speaker 2: the clip that's going viral. Don't say don't clip this.
Speaker 2: We're in the middle of clipping. This is currently on Instagram.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying. I want That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We need.
Speaker 1: I want people to do front facing camera work where
Speaker 1: they do their impression mister gringer Beans, And here it is.
Speaker 1: It is someone living their normal life and then they
Speaker 1: have to make some small gesture and exaggerated cartoonishly to
Speaker 1: the point where it's so funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is mister gringer Beans when he wants
Speaker 2: you to like, uh, you said something, but it was
Speaker 2: a little too quiet.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is mister gringer Beans where he's in a
Speaker 1: panel discussion, uh, post film screening, and he just is
Speaker 1: going to cross his legs and so then I thought, whoa.
Speaker 2: Damn go with? That shows wholes is. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know that makes such an impact.
Speaker 4: It was really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mister well, this is another element of mister gringer Beans.
Speaker 2: He has a really active sex.
Speaker 1: Like yo, well, yes, can you imagine how yes sex?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Oh? It's wilde?
Speaker 1: His arms and legs are not. Okay, so let's it's
Speaker 1: your turn for clipping this.
Speaker 3: This is mister gringer Beans when a little bit of
Speaker 3: hair is bothering him on his face.
Speaker 1: That's good, this is good, amazing. Yeah, it's so sad that.
Speaker 3: I know you trust that you would be seeing mister
Speaker 3: played by Bowing huge.
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that show? Was it like the
Speaker 2: Fossy Show with Williams? Yes? When she did mister gringer Beans, Wait, yes,
Speaker 2: where she goes? You know who else is?
Speaker 1: So mister gringer Beans carry Bradshaw sometimes like Carrie Brad
Speaker 1: Bradshaw literally just walking on the Street and she's like
Speaker 1: Carrie knocking on the restaurant.
Speaker 2: You don't get it. It's like she's like.
Speaker 3: Full Marionette's literally the first limb is connected with the string,
Speaker 3: first woman Marionette, who's the star up her own show.
Speaker 2: This is crazy. What's weird about this is that from
Speaker 2: now on, whenever someone's like being a little overly expressive,
Speaker 2: I'll refer to it as being a little mister.
Speaker 1: And like, you know, in theater or in film, like
Speaker 1: when a four minutes is so mister Gringer Beans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who's so, mister ginger Beans, Thurman and you
Speaker 1: know who else? Kerry Washington, Oh, totally.
Speaker 4: I try to think of one.
Speaker 1: I think the most obvious one is Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 4: I think there's so many coming to you.
Speaker 2: You're really good at this.
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 2: You think is ginger Beans.
Speaker 4: Beans? Because my thing.
Speaker 2: I do not wait.
Speaker 1: I think to me is almost could use a little
Speaker 1: more Grainger Beans. No offense, of course, no. I said
Speaker 1: that as a fan.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 1: I think if mister Gringer Beans gave her a little
Speaker 1: training and said, you know, maybe in moments of real
Speaker 1: dramatic tension, let's go a little more gringer beans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, too scared of a clip to say more about Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: but DM me.
Speaker 2: Why ginger beans?
Speaker 4: I decide what beans is?
Speaker 1: Their's yes, and that's the one at It's like there's
Speaker 1: a definition of gringer beans, but then it's also and
Speaker 1: also whatever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I can't think of a single actor Trump, Trump,
Speaker 2: I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you guys are having a lot of difficulty.
Speaker 4: Coming up No beans, scholar.
Speaker 2: The thing. The thing is, I'm so this is something
Speaker 2: I need to like work on with a therapist, is
Speaker 2: trying to recall any single actor. Because as soon as
Speaker 2: someone's like, what actor could do this, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: very like I didn't do the reading, like I know actors.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, as soon as someone is like,
Speaker 2: well name one, I'm like, mister greener.
Speaker 4: Beans, what are you trying to say about?
Speaker 2: That's like, no, I know that you wrote that like
Speaker 2: for months, like I know that that.
Speaker 1: Was wrote it for everyone when you did the packet
Speaker 1: to do this show.
Speaker 4: That was what was obliged to bring it up.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I got I would love to get into
Speaker 1: the gay topic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, celebration of pride. Yeah, I think that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to there is a part of
Speaker 1: me that wants to keep talking about mister greener beans
Speaker 1: because I kind of want him to have like a
Speaker 1: specific look so that people can dresses him for.
Speaker 4: Hell, we of course, but we come back, we can.
Speaker 2: Come back to it. We can come back to it.
Speaker 1: And actually, maybe his look can't even incorporated topic.
Speaker 4: I bet it.
Speaker 1: Well, what is your gay topic that you brought today?
Speaker 1: And maybe a little on what makes it gay for you?
Speaker 4: Of course, so I know it's pride at the time
Speaker 4: of listening.
Speaker 1: Needless to say, it's pride.
Speaker 3: And I know that a lot of podcast guests for
Speaker 3: the gay episode of Stradio Lab, they would bring in poppers,
Speaker 3: they would bring in loud music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sex, sure.
Speaker 4: Dinner parties x jealousy. Oh yeah, I thought. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to do that.
Speaker 3: I'm going to dig deep and I'm going to definitely
Speaker 3: not just be trying to think of one single topic
Speaker 3: to talk about. I am going to bring in something
Speaker 3: that I think, much like many other topics on the podcast,
Speaker 3: are unexpected.
Speaker 4: For the task.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's important to let them cook.
Speaker 2: Just it feels like they're stalling.
Speaker 4: Remember when I brought in mister Gans.
Speaker 1: I just the mind that brought you, mister Green. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna say they're going long.
Speaker 2: It just feels like you're like waiting for, like maybe
Speaker 2: to run out the clock, like maybe like.
Speaker 4: If I keep on your wrong enough, I can just leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because George has a hard out if I remember correctly.
Speaker 4: So my topic is umbrella.
Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us why you think that's gay.
Speaker 4: Umbrellas are made for when it's writing. Well, that is true,
Speaker 4: so they're already special. They are made for.
Speaker 3: A a type of day that actually in most cases.
Speaker 4: Comes with winds, comes with.
Speaker 3: Lightning, and these are impossible circumstances for an umbrella to
Speaker 3: work within.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, umbrellas are lying to them.
Speaker 3: Like so yes, it leads me to believe that umbrellas
Speaker 3: are are not here for what they're stated to be
Speaker 3: here for, and they're actually here to look gorgeous.
Speaker 1: So the umbrella metaphor, okay, in the umbrella metaphor, what
Speaker 1: they're here for is like to have a nuclear family,
Speaker 1: to get married, to have procreative sex. But instead they're like, actually,
Speaker 1: watch me twirl.
Speaker 4: Actually you don't think I can do that I can
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 1: Is so interesting love that, Like it is really about
Speaker 1: them failing to do the things, failing to do the
Speaker 1: thing they were put on the starts to do, while
Speaker 1: also being so also the ornamental element of it, like
Speaker 1: the fake you're pretending that this is functional, but it's
Speaker 1: actually just stunning.
Speaker 4: It's completely gorgeous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I totally get why when they got to
Speaker 3: the design they got to they were like.
Speaker 4: It's done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much people buy this. You know.
Speaker 1: It's also so you know by on it it's very
Speaker 1: like Janelle Manet Electric Lady.
Speaker 2: Well, it's dramatic. It's dramatic.
Speaker 1: It is futurist, Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: You have like it's honestly a little steampunk, very hard.
Speaker 4: Sure, but also like.
Speaker 1: Renaissance, like Beyonce he renaissance. Yeah, she would totally be
Speaker 1: carrying an umbrella.
Speaker 3: It's it exists across like it can I can picture
Speaker 3: it anywhere?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know what else it is speaking about Fosse,
Speaker 1: it's very having an umbrella and doing a little dance.
Speaker 2: I mean it's made for Corey, It's.
Speaker 1: Made for choreo. Actually that's actually what it's made for.
Speaker 1: What was I made for that's the umbrella when she
Speaker 1: realized that she was choreo of course.
Speaker 2: Because it's such a fun extension and it's like a
Speaker 2: little I think the implication that's practical makes it work
Speaker 2: so well in choreo exactly because you're like, oh, I
Speaker 2: didn't well, I thought that was for work, and you're like, nope,
Speaker 2: it's for And.
Speaker 1: Also, by the way, it is so impractical, and that
Speaker 1: is what also makes it queer because talk about where
Speaker 1: do you even put it? Like, if you don't have
Speaker 1: a bag, you have to just be carrying it around.
Speaker 1: If you do have a bag, you're gonna put a
Speaker 1: wet nylon tarp inside your bag where your copy of
Speaker 1: you know, Emma Clin's the guest is that you're reading
Speaker 1: for the summer.
Speaker 2: I literally just guess I just picked it up.
Speaker 1: Oh and now I have it's fucking wet.
Speaker 2: Great. Well this, I'm never supporting any bookstore again.
Speaker 1: I wording a bookstore again. Let alone women.
Speaker 3: Right, it's down, it's water that never escapes the bag.
Speaker 4: The bag just remains wet if you put an umbrella
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 2: I okay. An umbrella to me is like I think
Speaker 2: the lining to itself. It's very like the umbrella is
Speaker 2: like waking up and having like a big to do
Speaker 2: list and be like, I'm going to get this done today,
Speaker 2: and then it's like you're gonna get three things done.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: If you don't think the umbrella has ADHD, you're lying.
Speaker 2: Eighty eight.
Speaker 1: The umbrella is literally neurodivigin queen down.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. The other thing about it, I do think
Speaker 2: there's something so the way that umbrellas are always lost,
Speaker 2: Like right, that's the other thing that's like there's something
Speaker 2: that's it's like every gay movie where it's like has
Speaker 2: this deep sadness. Inevitably it's built in and it's like
Speaker 2: an umbrella is meant to be you are it will
Speaker 2: make you sad.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like like a gay friend.
Speaker 4: You don't know really how it got to you, but
Speaker 4: when you have it, it's yours. Yeah, then you can
Speaker 4: leave it somewhere.
Speaker 1: And it's communal.
Speaker 2: It's communit it's communal. It's promiscuous, right, miscuous.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, it's passed around like the town bicycle.
Speaker 4: It's impossible to keep one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's pretty anti capitalist. You cannot own
Speaker 2: an umbrella.
Speaker 1: You can't own an it owns.
Speaker 3: You can also range in like value and price. I
Speaker 3: mean like nothing else.
Speaker 2: I will say the range the golf umbrellas though that's
Speaker 2: very republican. I agree.
Speaker 1: Golf umbrellas is like that they're really big and.
Speaker 2: Very like well made. Of course, yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 1: Is the that is the like gay ceo, Like that
Speaker 1: is the umbrella that wants to it's pee bota. But
Speaker 1: I almost think there's something interesting about pe because of
Speaker 1: course he started out as gay CEO, but because he
Speaker 1: was made Secretary of Transportation, which is kind of the
Speaker 1: gayest position you can have. I'm almost like it doesn't
Speaker 1: work anymore to use him as the good to example
Speaker 1: of like neoliberal gold guy, because I'm sort of like
Speaker 1: there's something about what he's doing that is actually so
Speaker 1: like perfume genius is like the perfume genius of being
Speaker 1: a gay sell out.
Speaker 2: This is like a brand new I've never heard this
Speaker 2: take in my life, Like this is the thing. There
Speaker 2: is really something genius about this.
Speaker 1: Like if he had succeeded, that would have been a
Speaker 1: different story. But like he's what Biden's little bitch and
Speaker 1: he has to like go fix the trains.
Speaker 2: Wait, I love this.
Speaker 4: You're being amazing right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I needed to hear this.
Speaker 1: Like, I actually don't think Pete is golf umbrella. I
Speaker 1: think Pete is. You know what I think Pete is.
Speaker 1: It's like an umbrella that has the logo of a
Speaker 1: big company or a hotel. Yeah, but that was given
Speaker 1: for free and the quality is actually not very good.
Speaker 4: I think it's like, but you, that's your umbrella that
Speaker 4: you have, Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like Hilton Honors, Hilton Rewards program umbrella that you
Speaker 1: got because you stayed at your fiftieth Hilton and then
Speaker 1: that was sent to you along with the candle.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Can I talk about something else?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Please, great transition by the way.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I talk about some the ouse now, little
Speaker 3: tiny umbrella that comes in a drink?
Speaker 4: Also don't work.
Speaker 1: No good?
Speaker 2: Talk about work no good.
Speaker 4: Not be working at all?
Speaker 2: Good, don't not be working, but works better than it
Speaker 2: should exactly. Also like a decoration.
Speaker 1: Sorry, when it comes to literally its job, which is
Speaker 1: being fabulous, it's getting tens across the board.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that they make them to open and.
Speaker 4: Close, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Why do they make them?
Speaker 4: But they're immediately broken.
Speaker 2: They come broken.
Speaker 3: They don't stay though, because they have you know, they
Speaker 3: have that tiny elastic that keeps it up. And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, like you're like four cips in,
Speaker 3: You're like where the elastic go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, now doesn't stay up. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Even the esthetic like, oh my god, I'm so even
Speaker 3: the aesthetic replication of the real umbrella.
Speaker 4: Rat like matches.
Speaker 3: Yes, the original like function and intent, which is that
Speaker 3: it doesn't work.
Speaker 4: It looks gorgeous. Period.
Speaker 2: When those things stop being able to open and close,
Speaker 2: the little drink umbrellas, that's when you know society has fallen.
Speaker 2: Like there will be in our lives like stupid plastic
Speaker 2: ones that just.
Speaker 4: Aren't fake and stay open, open, no.
Speaker 2: And that will That's like when I'll go Republican. That
Speaker 2: was like this country used to mean something.
Speaker 4: You're bringing up Republican.
Speaker 2: I do bring it up a lot. We both bring
Speaker 2: it up a lot. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a worry of yours.
Speaker 1: I think that it's sort of like it's just something
Speaker 1: that it's like it's a respectable way to be, like
Speaker 1: we don't want to make jokes about like suicide. It's
Speaker 1: like you would be like, oh, I'm going to kill
Speaker 1: myself if that happens. But like our version of that day,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to become a Republican.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's such? That's really funny.
Speaker 4: It's kind of kinds turned on I'm going to kill myself.
Speaker 1: You mean, like now that it's okay to say it.
Speaker 1: Now it's okay.
Speaker 4: No I'm saying it's like now it's not okay, it's
Speaker 4: not okay.
Speaker 3: Now I'm saying it's like way, way way over used.
Speaker 2: I see, I see.
Speaker 4: It used to be kind of like an inflammatory thing
Speaker 4: to say and edgything to say. It's that would like
Speaker 4: like be a guaranteed laugh, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And now it's a bit like why are you saying that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know there is something about specificity. For
Speaker 1: a while I thought maybe the way around that would
Speaker 1: was being like walk into the ocean, jump off a window,
Speaker 1: jump off a cliff, still off a cliff, but it
Speaker 1: does it's over, it's over. People don't do that so
Speaker 1: much already. Well they jump off a cliff.
Speaker 4: It's over for me. But all respect.
Speaker 3: My new thing that I've been saying that could be
Speaker 3: maybe a segment if you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, please, is all respect everyone who's ever lived.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's mostly what I'm about to say something mean
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I always respect.
Speaker 1: I always everyone who ever lived, everyone, everyone.
Speaker 4: Who has ever lived.
Speaker 2: I will live respectful of.
Speaker 4: That person's being a bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say I say this with love. I
Speaker 1: would say that's one of my signature phrase.
Speaker 2: Is love love.
Speaker 3: But well, I guess like I want my respect to
Speaker 3: be true. It's like, listen, everyone's on their own yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, life path.
Speaker 1: But I also think I say it with love. I
Speaker 1: mean it semi earnestly because it's like sometimes pointing out
Speaker 1: someone's flaw is the purest expression of love, because it
Speaker 1: means you see them for who they are.
Speaker 2: I was thinking today, I was bringing myself to tears
Speaker 2: thinking about how much I like critique.
Speaker 3: Myself, getting yourself there, I was getting Yeah, well, I
Speaker 3: was just like, what is critique?
Speaker 2: Like? We're all watching and consuming things, yes, and it's
Speaker 2: like but you experience it in your own head and
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I felt this way about it. I
Speaker 2: wonder if there's anyone who feels similarly. We can put
Speaker 2: that into words, right, I love consuming critiques. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: are like nuanced and like you like but accurate, like
Speaker 2: when they hit something that is like, oh, that's it.
Speaker 2: I wish I could have put that into words. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I love a good critique.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, that's why it's so like intellectually
Speaker 1: dishonest to be like, oh, critics, Like why don't you
Speaker 1: make something if you're such a critic. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe criticism is making something. It completely literally making ideas,
Speaker 1: which is harder than.
Speaker 3: Making an umbrella, like trying to measure how close or
Speaker 3: far you are to something else.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and obviously there are as. There are bad artists,
Speaker 2: there are bad critics.
Speaker 1: That's I think the issue is we need to be
Speaker 1: more honest about the fact that there are good critics
Speaker 1: and bad critics, because I think what ends up happening
Speaker 1: is you put all of them in one box. It's
Speaker 1: like me waking up and being like all filmmakers are
Speaker 1: bad because I just saw the idea of you, right right,
Speaker 1: that's not fair.
Speaker 4: I'm still stuck on bringing myself to tears. That's mister.
Speaker 1: That is actually what is mister Gregor Beans, is you
Speaker 1: having like sort of like a normal thought and crying.
Speaker 2: Because of it.
Speaker 3: I was really like, forgetting yourself to cry about something.
Speaker 2: I love that very emotional, but I.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I'm going to do an act out of
Speaker 4: bringing yourself to tears.
Speaker 2: I think I was literally like in the Chipotle at
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen am.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I yeah, sometimes I bring myself to tears. When
Speaker 1: I think about my relationship with Sam, I'm like, we've
Speaker 1: been through so much together it still is only getting deeper,
Speaker 1: and I'm still excited to talk and critique with him
Speaker 1: every single time we see.
Speaker 4: True, it's the sweetest thing I've ever heard. Do you
Speaker 4: have a specialist?
Speaker 1: We've learned, though, to occasionally text each other I miss you,
Speaker 1: which is huge for me, Yeah, because we used to
Speaker 1: be about it checking in difficult. Well well not just that,
Speaker 1: but also I think both of us struggle with being
Speaker 1: earnest and with like straightforwardly being like I miss you.
Speaker 3: It's really yeah, I feel that you too, like are
Speaker 3: like my special guys for that, like I'm not relating
Speaker 3: to you guys not being able to do that because
Speaker 3: every time I see you booth it's like, okay, sweetee, I.
Speaker 1: See well yeah, yeah, but don't you think there's a
Speaker 1: sort of okay, how do I phrase this.
Speaker 2: I like, you've been doing some expert throat clearing today,
Speaker 2: and I know it's for like a practical reason, but
Speaker 2: I find you is it grainger beans?
Speaker 1: It's my throat clearing green.
Speaker 2: It might be ginger beans. I'm sorry, it really no.
Speaker 2: I like gringer beans is a beloved of Carol.
Speaker 4: It's a compliment. Oh that if someone says it's granger beans,
Speaker 4: it's good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, I know what I was about to say.
Speaker 1: There's a sort of uh, counterintuitive things that happens when
Speaker 1: you're so close with someone it becomes more difficul to express. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that intimacy because it's a given, because the given, and
Speaker 1: because when you express it it feels forced or it
Speaker 1: feels contrived. It's almost like imagine you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like imagine watching Casablanca and then having to rate
Speaker 1: it on letterboxed. Do you know what I'm trying to say? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's so self evidently a masterpiece that it is so
Speaker 1: beside the point to be like, hmmm, five stars.
Speaker 2: I found the characters interesting, exactly.
Speaker 1: And so in the same way, when someone is you know,
Speaker 1: like a sister to you, and then you and then
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, by the way, don't forget I love you.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, celest, you're good.
Speaker 2: At expressing your emotions.
Speaker 1: Thank you, And that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I agree with what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Practically, I always think it's nice.
Speaker 1: I agree, I ultimately agree, and I ultimately always appreciate
Speaker 1: when someone does express I don't think you're good at it.
Speaker 3: I love you. You know what else about Gregor beans.
Speaker 1: And thank you for bringing it back?
Speaker 3: It is the perfect It's it's actually so Gregor beans
Speaker 3: being a good thing is the solution to their not
Speaker 3: being a nice way to say noticing your shirt. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's like someone's doing something big, like someone's using more
Speaker 3: steps than they have.
Speaker 4: To being ginger beans. But that's I say this with I.
Speaker 2: Say this with love. You're being gringer beans.
Speaker 3: Gringer beans is all respect to everyone because it's.
Speaker 2: Not good or bad. It's I would argue, it's good.
Speaker 2: It is good.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Gringer beans is synonymous with good.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a type of good. It's a big good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like you can still notice someone's shirt if you don't
Speaker 2: like it, you can still say I'm noticing your shirt.
Speaker 2: But if you are noticing it and it's big and
Speaker 2: you like it, you say that suits exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh I see, I see, I see. Because I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I feel though, Okay, I hesitate to complicate this because
Speaker 1: I think we're having such an amazing it's such an
Speaker 1: amazing do it.
Speaker 4: I feel pretty like secure, ye course.
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking, like, okay, let's go back to
Speaker 1: my throat clearing. What if I I understand that at
Speaker 1: the level that I was doing it, it was adorable,
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I I I seemed so and I
Speaker 1: love you, But what if what if it really reached
Speaker 1: a point where it was so gringer Beans that it
Speaker 1: was like disrupting the podcast, or what if, for instance,
Speaker 1: going back to you know, Uma Thurman carry Washington, sometimes
Speaker 1: there Gringer Beans is actually negatively effected.
Speaker 3: I knew that that's that's what the calculus was in
Speaker 3: your head. But I think also those are like girls
Speaker 3: you love you love them because you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: because I saw you doing the math. Like, but I
Speaker 3: had said all those people or yes, that was legit.
Speaker 1: I also literally said Trump was Gregor be and so
Speaker 1: you know it is tough stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe I do love. I mean he's using ging beans, he's.
Speaker 1: Using graingermans for evil. Of course, you can use Gringer
Speaker 1: beans for evil. I mean you can use anything for evil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like charm.
Speaker 4: That's so deep. Well, you can use anything you can.
Speaker 2: What can you not use for you?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you can't for instance, a very obvious point.
Speaker 1: But it's like you can use philanthropy for evil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but y'all already know there's one thing you can't
Speaker 4: use for evil.
Speaker 3: Love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think let's think, let's.
Speaker 1: Think, well, I think definitely manipulate love and use it
Speaker 1: for evil, like if you are but.
Speaker 4: That's not love.
Speaker 1: Girl love that's your book title, but that's not love
Speaker 1: dot dot dot girl.
Speaker 2: Ol l.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean this is I don't even think we
Speaker 1: have enough time right now. But like, is it true
Speaker 1: that when you use love for evil it stops becoming love?
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you think so? I don't think so. I
Speaker 2: think Like, let's say you're a mother and you love
Speaker 2: your daughter.
Speaker 1: And separately you're committing crimes.
Speaker 4: And then you blame it on her.
Speaker 2: No, let's say like Gypsy Rose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, hold on that, But I do think
Speaker 1: that's not love. Maybe you think did you think mother
Speaker 1: Gypsy loved daughter Gypsy?
Speaker 2: They're both named Gypsy? No, I just I just don't
Speaker 2: know their names.
Speaker 4: Don't bring up, don't confuse him already lost.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what, I think that's maybe
Speaker 1: something we have to throw out to the listeners.
Speaker 4: I feel really confident, you.
Speaker 2: Really feel I get it.
Speaker 1: You know what I actually appreciate about you. You have
Speaker 1: very clearly defined morality.
Speaker 4: People say that to me a lot. Yeah, Well, I
Speaker 4: wonder what that's coming from, because I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's true.
Speaker 1: You don't think that's true.
Speaker 4: I think I have like a regular sense of what
Speaker 4: I think is right and wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, I wonder if it's because I'm like being like
Speaker 3: randomly like two opinionated sometimes or something that people think.
Speaker 2: That your vocal about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also think because they're you thinking it's regular,
Speaker 1: it is like part of it not being regular, Like
Speaker 1: you have such a strong sense of morality that you
Speaker 1: can't imagine anyone not having that strong sense of morality. Right,
Speaker 1: So you're like, well I'm regular, right again, Like I've
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 3: Been feeling like that's coming from like may being stubborn
Speaker 3: or something. But maybe I have to like be practicing
Speaker 3: more love.
Speaker 1: But don't you think being stubborn. You can be stubborn
Speaker 1: and have bad morality.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like maybe, like I just always wonder
Speaker 3: what that's what's being picked up on from me.
Speaker 4: I see that people think sad, I see but love
Speaker 4: you respect.
Speaker 1: And so many people have your exact morality, but they're
Speaker 1: not as like in your face about it is what
Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, Like I just am like, you're Grainger
Speaker 1: beans in morality?
Speaker 4: Hello you think that?
Speaker 2: I mean going back to going back to morale beans
Speaker 2: being good. It's like hell, going to a protest.
Speaker 1: Is Gringer beans in morale. It's like it's like God forbid,
Speaker 1: you have a private thought. You're going out and you're
Speaker 1: holding a sign. It's like, oh, I woke up saying
Speaker 1: I was like, I believe in equality. I have to
Speaker 1: be as loud about it as possible. Well, this is
Speaker 1: why would you say Jan six protesters were they were
Speaker 1: using Grainger beans? Yes, that was classic Ringer beans.
Speaker 4: Did you guys pass the rat today on the way?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't see
Speaker 1: I didn't see her.
Speaker 4: That rat should be named that's ginger beans. That's love her,
Speaker 4: by the way I love her.
Speaker 1: Of course she's a legend. It's Cabby. It can't be
Speaker 1: the rat.
Speaker 4: It's can't be the rap.
Speaker 2: Hey, that would have been an amazing time to have
Speaker 2: a thought, but it just didn't have. No, we'll do
Speaker 2: it all on post.
Speaker 1: Go on, Yeah, sentence post is gonna sound like, you
Speaker 1: know in with Chris Hayes, I.
Speaker 2: Have one an umbrella based question.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yeah about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: How do you to treat your umbrellas?
Speaker 4: I treat them.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's like a conversation or something. It's like
Speaker 3: it's not I don't own one, but I can have
Speaker 3: one when I'm with someone else. It's like so intangible
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's not like.
Speaker 3: I like don't ever know where one is, Yeah, don't
Speaker 3: ever remember like if I brought one, But if I
Speaker 3: need one, it's like it's there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: What I think is essentially identical in form, function, and
Speaker 1: spirit to an umbrella chapstick. It is something that does
Speaker 1: not do what it's meant to do very well. It
Speaker 1: is something that you literally always lose.
Speaker 2: No one has ever.
Speaker 1: Finished a tube of chapstick. It is something that you
Speaker 1: always have with you somehow, except for the one time
Speaker 1: you need it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It is something that's like cheap enough, where it's you
Speaker 1: sort of like don't care. No one's ever like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I lost my chapstick as I'll have to save up
Speaker 1: next month, and you're calling in something queer and exactly
Speaker 1: it's something I mean, the idea of chapstick is literally
Speaker 1: the definition of campaus you're putting lipstick on, but it's
Speaker 1: not adding color.
Speaker 4: Yes, and the chapstick lesbian of course. Of course, what
Speaker 4: would an umbrella gay be?
Speaker 1: An umbrella gay? An umbrella like if someone if you're like,
Speaker 1: oh he's such an umbrella y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, this could be a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I could see it being like almost like a dapper
Speaker 2: gay exactly. Yeah, Like it's sort of like I wear
Speaker 2: wool pants and like fetishize London. What's the word? See
Speaker 2: it kind of being tech gay where it's like I
Speaker 2: have like my pants are moisture wicking.
Speaker 4: And I could also see it being like lost my
Speaker 4: phone and wallet gay. Yeah, like where's my phone, where's
Speaker 4: my wallet? And my girl?
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally yeah.
Speaker 1: And his umbrella is like decrepit. It's like half of
Speaker 1: it is fully gone. One of the things is like
Speaker 1: poking a woman in the eye as he's walking.
Speaker 2: I mean, I never feel more like star of a
Speaker 2: movie than when I have a cheap umbrella and it's
Speaker 2: fully busted and flying in the wind and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm this is the beginning of my movie, like down
Speaker 2: on my luck.
Speaker 4: What's amazing about an umbrella is like even the cheapest,
Speaker 4: most broken one and like and the most expensive good
Speaker 4: one like gives you this. They give you the same experience.
Speaker 4: Like you're getting wet, You're getting you're holding a big thing.
Speaker 2: You're getting some wet.
Speaker 4: An umbrella gay, an umbrella gay?
Speaker 2: It also okay, this is maybe I can't tell this
Speaker 2: is gay or straight about it actually, but walking with
Speaker 2: a friend starts pouring rain, there's one umbrella. Suddenly you're
Speaker 2: a couple. This doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: A couple. It's actually something I would love to talk about,
Speaker 1: which is and I think it relates to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: The use of umbrella as a metaphor meaning under the
Speaker 1: blank umbrella. Now here's the issue with that. Definitionally, if
Speaker 1: two people are under if multiple people are under an umbrella,
Speaker 1: it does not actually cover them, and it sort of
Speaker 1: fucks everyone over. So to say such and such as
Speaker 1: under the LGBTQ plus umbrella is almost being like watch out,
Speaker 1: your rights are under attack, Like the umbrella is not
Speaker 1: going to protect.
Speaker 2: Your bits, all your shoulders getting wet, all your shoulders
Speaker 2: are you're in.
Speaker 4: The place that the umbrella puts the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: There's a sense of at first glance, saying you are
Speaker 1: under an umbrella gives you a form of safety under
Speaker 1: your but it's like who's in the center of the
Speaker 1: umbrella and who's that the edge is getting more wet
Speaker 1: than if they didn't have umbrella to begin with.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, beautiful metaphor.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: So what kind of gig guy is that.
Speaker 2: Party promoter?
Speaker 4: Well, well, that's interesting because they're just like.
Speaker 2: Only because it's like like, yes, everyone's like it's a
Speaker 2: queer party. Everyone come, But it's like somebody, yeah, who
Speaker 2: do you know that umbrella is exclusive?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little like some of you are gonna
Speaker 4: be outside that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, So maybe an umbrella gay is like the guy
Speaker 3: who like invites like half of a friend group over gatekeeper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gatekeeper.
Speaker 1: Maybe umbrella is gatekeeper. It's like I'm holding the umbrella
Speaker 1: and I decide who goes under it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there has to be an element of like
Speaker 3: the umbrellas doesn't work so good, that's the main proud Yeah,
Speaker 3: should we maybe try to approach it like from the drink,
Speaker 3: from the umbrella in the drink.
Speaker 1: Okay, so in terms of in terms of someone who
Speaker 1: is basically a gatekeeper, like a flop gatekeeper, someone who
Speaker 1: thinks they're.
Speaker 2: The head of the group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, here's what it is. An umbrella gae
Speaker 1: someone who is always host always sending party full links,
Speaker 1: like always hosting parties, always sending party full links, close friends,
Speaker 1: close friends, everything else.
Speaker 2: But no one's like that into their events.
Speaker 4: That's interesting, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yes, And there are people like that.
Speaker 1: Like always having some theme party, always wanting to host
Speaker 1: the pregame. They have this complex where they think they're
Speaker 1: the center of the group, but no one else really
Speaker 1: thinks so. But because someone else is stepping up to
Speaker 1: be the center, people are like, yeah, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: go to Jared's place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just is like one of the saddest things,
Speaker 2: Like that picture is like bumming me out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, welcome to umbrella.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's literally raining outside. Literally it's not supposed
Speaker 2: to be pleasant. It's not supposed to be pleasant.
Speaker 4: Welcome to umbrella.
Speaker 2: Welcome to umbrella.
Speaker 1: I do think on a more literal level too, you know,
Speaker 1: it's associated with rain. Rain. This is like very rain
Speaker 1: is queer in the sense that it's like a different
Speaker 1: thing that the sky can do, and it's rare, and
Speaker 1: it's rare. It's literally like if you add up the
Speaker 1: days and you're like, what percentage of days are raining,
Speaker 1: it's the same exact percentage of people who are queer
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: It's like it's a lot, but it's not. It's not.
Speaker 4: It's way less than the most minor of some places
Speaker 4: in some places. But I wish that we could find
Speaker 4: it like a way of explaining that's like a blase.
Speaker 1: Is of m top you know what I mean for
Speaker 1: an umbrella.
Speaker 4: Ga, you did all of that and you're like no,
Speaker 4: because I'm not going to say that, Oh you.
Speaker 1: Want sexually well, simple simple, yeah, simple, okay.
Speaker 2: An umbrella is okay, okay, an umbrella is someone who
Speaker 2: like talks about sex a lot, but like doesn't have
Speaker 2: sex very much.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly it. No further questions.
Speaker 2: Q e D. Good job, thank you that that's in
Speaker 2: the vision.
Speaker 1: I love that. It's literally like the entire identity, the
Speaker 1: entire identity of umbrella is do you want to bring
Speaker 1: me in my rain and you're like, okay, I'll bring you,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, I'm shy.
Speaker 2: The Umbrella's literally like I'm gonna take every fucking job,
Speaker 2: like you're not gonna like exactly, exactly exactly, nothing will
Speaker 2: be love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, um come rain on me, rain on me. And
Speaker 1: then this guy does ray and the umbrellas like, oh
Speaker 1: I'm like sorry, sorry, sorry, oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: We win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4: Great cools are good. Agree?
Speaker 1: I agree, yes, I would say I certainly agree.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I was pretty worried about that, you really. I was
Speaker 4: just like, I'm gonna have to stretch it.
Speaker 2: And it did. Though.
Speaker 1: I think I think you pushed us to some truths
Speaker 1: because you were I think many people when we start theorizing,
Speaker 1: are sort of like sure, girl, and.
Speaker 2: Then we like move on.
Speaker 1: You were but you were being very much like that's
Speaker 1: not a full thing, like that, You've shown your work
Speaker 1: and it doesn't quite add up. Let's keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And in that sense, you are like the teacher. You're
Speaker 1: like Robin Williams and Goodwill Hunting, like you're the the
Speaker 1: or dead poets decide or whatever.
Speaker 4: The fuck both both.
Speaker 2: I mean I that's always what I struggled with is
Speaker 2: when they were like, okay, so but like write the conclusion.
Speaker 2: I was like, you read the whole thing right, that's.
Speaker 3: It right because it doesn't feel natural, but you have
Speaker 3: to in conclusion. But I felt like, like my last
Speaker 3: topics Christianity, di ecotomies, they were too dropped.
Speaker 1: Oh I see, yeah, well I wanted something.
Speaker 4: Yeah wow.
Speaker 1: I actually think a lot of people, and I think
Speaker 1: I would have this instinct to a lot of people
Speaker 1: come onto the podcast and think, the most intellectual thing
Speaker 1: I can do is pick the broadest possible thing is
Speaker 1: to be like, my topic is, you know, climate change.
Speaker 2: But in fact, the.
Speaker 1: Smaller I mean we've talked about this before, Smaller is
Speaker 1: big and big at small the smaller topic is the
Speaker 1: more you can dig deep and do more intellectual work.
Speaker 3: You've got to get specific, you gotta gets gay with
Speaker 3: because like legit, some things are not gay and not straight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know it's really hard when people come
Speaker 2: on and they say something and I'm like, to be honest,
Speaker 2: I think that's.
Speaker 4: Gay, like their topic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, I'm trying to do but I
Speaker 2: like do fundamentally, like I think there's something interesting when
Speaker 2: it's like this podcast is complete fake, and then sometimes I'll.
Speaker 4: Be like, wait, the rules right, it's not like magic,
Speaker 4: you know, it's like fake.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, if we like from the beginning,
Speaker 1: we were not that strict about the rules in a
Speaker 1: way that sometimes I'm like, well, don't make a mockery
Speaker 1: of it, Like let's go back and then let's do
Speaker 1: it again and be like really strict about it, because
Speaker 1: in fact, when we get into the zone of critique,
Speaker 1: we're dead serious. Language is literally the most important thing
Speaker 1: we have.
Speaker 3: I mean, what you're describing is like legit theater in plays,
Speaker 3: it's like I know that's a guy, but we have
Speaker 3: to be playing along and thinking through what is being said.
Speaker 4: Because then it's like I'm actually bored of what I'm saying, wow, wow.
Speaker 1: Talk about like the opposite of Gringer like giving up
Speaker 1: halfway through.
Speaker 2: That's Miss.
Speaker 1: Trinkle Tacks Drinkle Trinkle or wrinkle Trinkle. Miss Trinkle is
Speaker 1: mister Gringer Beans flop wife, because like he's constantly performing
Speaker 1: at every dinner party and she's like, oh too much.
Speaker 2: Like somebody's like, what did you do today, Miss Trinkle
Speaker 2: Tach And she's like, I what did I do next?
Speaker 4: Like she's like, it's like, how are you? She's like,
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I love that she kept her last name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know you have to draw the line.
Speaker 4: She's not still not fully Its.
Speaker 2: Like because of family pressure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, also, mister ginger Beans is so wealthy of course,
Speaker 1: of course, hello talk about Gringer beans thing. It's having
Speaker 1: so much money, more than you need, more than you
Speaker 1: need beans stuff to talk about using Gringer beans for
Speaker 1: evil is accumulating.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, I love that couple that. I really like.
Speaker 2: I can see mister Beans.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what do you look like
Speaker 1: to you? Help me? Well, he's got one of those
Speaker 1: hats that's like rounded at the top of it's a
Speaker 1: monopoly man monopoly but there's.
Speaker 2: Like a yellow tie. Yeah, and he's like a little
Speaker 2: bit like like I see walking to every room sort
Speaker 2: of jokingly being you.
Speaker 1: Know what it is, Yeah, Monopoly yellow tie, but stilettos
Speaker 1: like bigger, like big pants.
Speaker 4: Why but like when he walks, it jingles jingle, jingle, jingle.
Speaker 4: He's amazing. Oh my god, I love him.
Speaker 2: I love him so much.
Speaker 4: Cute and he walks with the cane but he doesn't
Speaker 4: need it. It's an umbrella.
Speaker 2: It's an umbrella. Should we do our final segment? I
Speaker 2: think we have to.
Speaker 4: Are you stressed?
Speaker 1: I'm not stressed independently about other things in my life,
Speaker 1: as you know I'm doing after this recording, but current No,
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not.
Speaker 4: In the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: One of the most powerful things is to literally be
Speaker 1: like the future doesn't exist yet, and therefore I can't
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 4: I don't have to deal with that now.
Speaker 2: So let's normally our final segment of shout outs. But
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know what we're gonna sew.
Speaker 4: You guys have something.
Speaker 1: I think I can whip something up, but it will
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Speaker 2: When my mind is completely blank. So George, if you
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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, you know. Let me just say this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I started this episode not being in the mood for pride.
Speaker 2: I've never felt more pride.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was so ready to go out
Speaker 1: there and be proudly out George.
Speaker 2: To go to parties.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so gringer beans. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: mixed Gringer beans this Pride, of.
Speaker 4: Course, and oh my god, we mixed. How are they doing?
Speaker 1: I actually think that's a great question because mixed Emma,
Speaker 1: when we invented them, they were a college student.
Speaker 4: Yes, and that was four years ago.
Speaker 1: This is what I mean, like literally like out and
Speaker 1: about adults. They're an adult, they are you know, probably
Speaker 1: working out a company of some sort.
Speaker 2: It's an ethical company.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I've been. That's why I'm delaying.
Speaker 1: What I'm about to say is I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm like, is it Well, I think it's the job
Speaker 3: that they got and maybe that's not exactly what they
Speaker 3: would like to be doing, but.
Speaker 4: That's okay for me right now.
Speaker 2: And do you think they like.
Speaker 1: I feel like there was still by Emma. Huh oh
Speaker 1: do they still go by Emma?
Speaker 4: Not sure?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Wow? What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think they probably go by chair.
Speaker 2: Now chair wow?
Speaker 4: But but they it's not like a dead name, but
Speaker 4: they prefer chair.
Speaker 3: Oh so it's not it's like like like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: like that's what their friends call it, and like they're
Speaker 3: still cool with like m m that kind of.
Speaker 4: Thing, but they do prefer chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wow, But I just shout out to chair.
Speaker 1: And honestly, like I do think I would say I
Speaker 1: have faith that they will land on their feet, like yes,
Speaker 1: this is not an ideal drop for them, but like
Speaker 1: they's such a beautiful voice, beautiful voice. They're living with
Speaker 1: two great roommates.
Speaker 2: You know, they've gotten really good at cooking, really good
Speaker 2: at cooking.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they've cooked through because you know, when
Speaker 1: we first met them, they were cooking Alison Roman stew.
Speaker 1: But they moved through the rest of Alice in.
Speaker 4: Roman books and they're doing cold carry cake.
Speaker 1: You know what is happening now?
Speaker 2: Actually they are now vegan. They were good.
Speaker 3: Good for them, Yeah, and it's because of the they're
Speaker 3: they're an ethical disagreement having to do.
Speaker 4: With humans, not with animals exactly.
Speaker 1: They don't give a ship about animals.
Speaker 4: No, they heard about the kinds of diseases.
Speaker 1: They're a sort of a what's it called when you
Speaker 1: always think you're sick.
Speaker 4: They made them really upset, the hypochondria.
Speaker 1: Hypochondria which actually falls under the LGBTQ plus on brew.
Speaker 1: But they're on the very very edge, constantly getting poisoned
Speaker 1: by acid. Right.
Speaker 4: Oh, but they're good, they're good, and they're in love.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's right.
Speaker 2: It's cool with a photographer.
Speaker 4: With the photographer, are really good for a photographers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just did have spread for paper magazine.
Speaker 4: Yes, of a Chamberlain.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm Chamberlain and it.
Speaker 2: Was sort of caveman themed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and guess what Emma Chamberlain is. Then you mix
Speaker 1: Emma now that the old mixed Semma is Chair.
Speaker 4: That's what they related about.
Speaker 2: That's what they related about, because.
Speaker 3: Like mixed chair doesn't have shame about changing. So they
Speaker 3: were like, my name was actually for many years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Emma Chamberlain was like, oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: so crazy. Do you want to Sealfie?
Speaker 2: Oh well, what a beautiful note to end on. That
Speaker 2: was like catching up with the college friend.
Speaker 1: It was, by the way, straighted a lab deep lore
Speaker 1: and I think we're not going to exp if you
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Speaker 4: Something, if you know, you know, do you think you
Speaker 4: can't do that? I can need that.
Speaker 2: I didn't need it, I said, I.
Speaker 4: Just said it.
Speaker 2: Also, Happy pride.
Speaker 1: Happy pride to all, Happy pride to all the glamour
Speaker 1: girls out there, Happy pride to Chair, Happy pride to
Speaker 1: Emma Chamberlain, and happy mister mister Ringer Ringo Bean, sorry
Speaker 1: mister and missus Missus Trinkle Cross Drinker Tech Drink Trinkle
Speaker 1: Tech Shrink Trinkle Tech Trinkle I believe. Yeah, yeah, god,
Speaker 1: it is so like her to have people forget her name.
Speaker 4: Well, she could help.
Speaker 2: Us a bit. Yeah yeah, it's sort of not the
Speaker 2: victim blame, but she could live out loud a little more.
Speaker 2: I agree. Okay.
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