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Speaker 1: my name is Chad. And every single week I got
Speaker 1: a lot to say. I have a big shpiel, it seems.
Speaker 1: But I'm here, of course and joined by the Queen
Speaker 1: of Extreme you have a lot to stay today or
Speaker 1: just in general. No, it sounded like it was very
Speaker 1: long winded. Now you say that every week, I know,
Speaker 1: but it felt longer this week. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't. I don't know why either. As I
Speaker 1: was getting ready to come down here, I made my
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Speaker 1: So what kind of smoothie this is a It's chocolate moose,
Speaker 1: but it's just a protein shake. I add peanut butter
Speaker 1: to it and some vanilla unsweetened dilmond milk, and it's delicious,
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, unsweet, and I like the sweet and
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Speaker 1: need the sugar, so, uh what the unsweet? But it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good and it fills me up. And because you
Speaker 1: know I I fast every day until about eleven twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock and this, this hits the spot. So I've never
Speaker 1: been a smoothie guy. Okay, well it's a protein shake.
Speaker 1: It's not protein shak. Right, Smoothie is the setting on
Speaker 1: the blender. Okay, So I've never even the same thing. Like,
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Speaker 1: At first I had to say I had my doubts
Speaker 1: about the taste. It is a tropical drink when you
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Speaker 1: extra emphasis. So I'm glad he's here. He has been
Speaker 1: a friend of mine for gosh, I don't know, twenty
Speaker 1: five years or so, a very long time. I was
Speaker 1: able to spend some time with him this weekend. Please
Speaker 1: join me in welcoming the Blue Meanie Hey thanking his
Speaker 1: eyes up here debut today. Are you my friend? Excellent?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I've been trying to get you
Speaker 1: now for like seventy two years. But you know, Blue
Speaker 1: Guy's very busy. He's a bucket list guest for the
Speaker 1: show we've been We definitely had him at the top
Speaker 1: of that list. I am checking off my bucket list.
Speaker 1: First thing, I want to say, happy belated. I reached
Speaker 1: out on your birthday. But did it he had a
Speaker 1: birthday a couple of days ago. Yes. Yes, And we're
Speaker 1: not going to disclose our age unless you you would
Speaker 1: like to. No, no, no, See. I tell everybody I'm
Speaker 1: fifty and I love it, and I kick and not
Speaker 1: shimmy in a shake. But you know, well, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a great stay saying you're young once, but you
Speaker 1: can be immature forever. So I've taken that route. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know that because I've traveled with you up
Speaker 1: and down the road. Uh. Before we get into you know,
Speaker 1: backstories and whatnot, we were together this past weekend. We're
Speaker 1: starting to show hot with you. We didn't really We
Speaker 1: do like recaps and we talk a little bit, but
Speaker 1: we didn't get to today because we started right at noon.
Speaker 1: MEI and I were working for Captain's Corner or a
Speaker 1: friend Nick and Dave Cash was with us, Kid Cash
Speaker 1: and it was a little mini reunion and we had
Speaker 1: such a good time, don't you think. Hey, it's always
Speaker 1: great when we can get together and reminisce, so to speak.
Speaker 1: It's just like the cool thing about our crew. It's
Speaker 1: no matter how far apart we how long it's been
Speaker 1: since we seen each other last time, we just pick
Speaker 1: up right where we left off. It's true because now
Speaker 1: I had not seen you. I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: even remember in the time you and Tracy came to
Speaker 1: our house for dinner, that might have been it, and
Speaker 1: that was years ago. Yeah, but he talks to my
Speaker 1: husband more than he talks to mend it. They had
Speaker 1: this little man group. You know, I'm private to it
Speaker 1: because I get shown some of the conversations once in
Speaker 1: a while. If they're funny, he pops me with them.
Speaker 1: And you know, but we're kids of the eighties and
Speaker 1: a lot of our eighties humor, eighties knowledge and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And yeah, we have another We had another
Speaker 1: mutual friend within there. I'll protect him so he's innocent,
Speaker 1: but he's he's married and has a family now, so
Speaker 1: I know I know who you're talking about either. But
Speaker 1: he's another guy that was part of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a wrestler, but like a lot of the boys,
Speaker 1: and he said I'd be considered one of the boys.
Speaker 1: So it's just me and him have this saying, man,
Speaker 1: if this was nineteen ninety six, you know, and I'll
Speaker 1: just leave it at that. But you know, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we we just yeah, it's crazy how I talked to
Speaker 1: your better half more to more than you. I'm like, really, hello,
Speaker 1: But it's okay because we've kept in touch. It's not
Speaker 1: like we don't speak, you know. But it's just the
Speaker 1: boys club is running rampant, and it's fine because, like
Speaker 1: I said, some of these, some of these memes and jokes,
Speaker 1: I am prevy too, and I shake my head, but
Speaker 1: I pop at the same time, so I get it.
Speaker 1: It's all good. So what should we talk about today?
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody, how'd you get into the business?
Speaker 1: I mean, how many? How many things have you done?
Speaker 1: And how many interviews have you done? That? Oh it's
Speaker 1: always uh yeah, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Autopilot. Tell that story. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll just have out now if that's what's gonna happen. No,
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: But I know you're sick of talking about this one.
Speaker 1: But a lot of my listeners might not know about it,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to bring it up. And please
Speaker 1: don't be mad at me. Your family so you can
Speaker 1: talk about anything. Well, isn't that great? Uh, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to discuss jbl and and we we talked about
Speaker 1: this over the weekend and it's like, oh, not again.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't know how that came about.
Speaker 1: People still ask me, and I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was there that night, but I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I really don't. I was there. I watched it
Speaker 1: from the back because I was part of that show too,
Speaker 1: in a nutshell. You don't have to go into logistics
Speaker 1: and details, but what brought that on that evening? Because
Speaker 1: we are Okay, so backstory that I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: two thousand and five ECW One night Stand pay per view. Okay,
Speaker 1: I traveled with you. We all went to New Jersey.
Speaker 1: We all got into a van that looked like, uh
Speaker 1: it could uh you know, transport illegal aliens over the
Speaker 1: border and all this the shadiness and there was like
Speaker 1: ten of us in this van. We're going to the
Speaker 1: paper view. I was a surprise. So Joey Styles literally
Speaker 1: put a jacket over my head and drug me into
Speaker 1: the building without anybody saying me but Minia Company, we
Speaker 1: were all there. Tell us what happened that night? Did
Speaker 1: you when you went into the building. Was there a
Speaker 1: confrontation beforehand? Was there a heat? Did anybody like steoge
Speaker 1: anything off to you? Did you know anything? What happened? Well,
Speaker 1: it goes back to my first run in WW. I
Speaker 1: went into WW in ninety eight, November ninety eight, and
Speaker 1: forever reason, you know, and again it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: nail down to one specific incident, you know, but forever
Speaker 1: reason JBL now in full disclosure. Now me and John
Speaker 1: are cool so and people like to use that uh oh, JB,
Speaker 1: I'll be I was like, yeah, we're friends. We made
Speaker 1: up over this, so forever reason, there's always like some
Speaker 1: kind of like remark or you know, when we're working
Speaker 1: in the ring, I thought I felt he was taking
Speaker 1: liberties in the ring. And you know, once I left
Speaker 1: WWE and I was fired, I was like, I had
Speaker 1: a great time. But I said an interview with Mike
Speaker 1: Johnson or Chris Wardward buck Wardward, I said, I had
Speaker 1: a great time in WWE, but JBL was a bully
Speaker 1: and that's basically all I said, and then you know,
Speaker 1: it kept coming up. I was like, yeah, he bowled me.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a bully, and you know how excuse me.
Speaker 1: You're not the first to say this about him. There
Speaker 1: have been several stories out there. I might have been
Speaker 1: the first at that time to publicly Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 1: This was in two thousand. When I said it, they
Speaker 1: released me. So I think it's a case of you
Speaker 1: know how the telephone game works, where what I say
Speaker 1: this and by the time it gets to John, people
Speaker 1: have embellished and oh man, wait till Minie. You know
Speaker 1: you hear what Minie said about you, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know I had seen him over the years, like
Speaker 1: I had stopped by a w W show. Everything was cool,
Speaker 1: and then that day at when I stand, everything was fine,
Speaker 1: Hey John, Hey me, Hey you do And then the
Speaker 1: skirmish at the end, we were we we did a
Speaker 1: whole rehearsal everything, and you know, we're all squaring off
Speaker 1: and hey, you and I'm gonna beat you up and
Speaker 1: you know whatever you say, right and uh I had
Speaker 1: made a plan. Uh, one of the bashing brothers on
Speaker 1: on on the other side, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just square off. You know, who knows if we're
Speaker 1: ever going to see you know, I'm buddies with him.
Speaker 1: I was like, who knows if we're going to see
Speaker 1: each other again. Let's just square off and do whatever.
Speaker 1: Have a good time, right, Yeah, So the skirmish breaks out,
Speaker 1: and uh, we're going back and forth, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, two nights before at the Forever Hardcore or
Speaker 1: Hardcore Homecoming, Yeah, Saman busts open, uh with a ladder
Speaker 1: or a chair, and I had staples in the back
Speaker 1: of my head and uh, I'm but flash forward to
Speaker 1: when I stand I'm brawling with on the bash I
Speaker 1: think Danny Basham and then all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 1: a punch right in the back of my head on
Speaker 1: top of the staples. So if you watch the food,
Speaker 1: you see me grab my hand, go son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: I turn around. It's John and we just you know,
Speaker 1: he does the hockey. We start having a hockey fight.
Speaker 1: You know. He just pulls my shirt over my face
Speaker 1: and I start swinging back and you can't see at
Speaker 1: this point because your face is covered. But when you know,
Speaker 1: we all went over our stuff because they make you
Speaker 1: walk through everything. They're ridiculous. So when you went over this, uh,
Speaker 1: did he say I'm going to come from behind at
Speaker 1: any point and try to square off with nothing? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I think you know, Uh, there's one point where
Speaker 1: I think I said something about his cowboy hat and
Speaker 1: he just looked at me, and I was like, ah, ship,
Speaker 1: I should have said that. I probably shouldn't say anything
Speaker 1: about his cowboy hatter. So I don't know. And the ring, Huh,
Speaker 1: you were in the ring when it wasn't like it
Speaker 1: was a shoot like your hat. It's like we're working
Speaker 1: you right right right right, kick your ass, but you know,
Speaker 1: you know it's a work. So you know, he hits
Speaker 1: me in the back of the head and we're we're fighting,
Speaker 1: and I powder off and I grabed somebody and uh
Speaker 1: bubo bo and then like guys are coming up to me.
Speaker 1: Tracy Smothers walks up to me because I'm i'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm bleeding, so uh okay, and then while walks up
Speaker 1: to me, looks at me. Everybody's looking at me like
Speaker 1: they thought I got collar. I was like, no, he
Speaker 1: shot on me, and Tracy Smothers went over and uh,
Speaker 1: if you watch sam Man puts his cane around him
Speaker 1: and Tracy Smothers has well still in the ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: while while still going on, and you see Bubba pull
Speaker 1: Mountain Whisper or something and tells him to uh skidaddle okay,
Speaker 1: And we get to the back and uh, I'm you
Speaker 1: know we're doing uh there's still like a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes where they have Bischoff in there with stone cold
Speaker 1: and they're beating up Bishof and you see I you know,
Speaker 1: they bring in beers for Steve. Also, I grab a
Speaker 1: beer and put it right on my face like a state.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I got one. I'm double fisted. I
Speaker 1: got one on my face when I'm drinking one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a photo that's floating around the internet. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm all getmicked up. And I got the beer in
Speaker 1: my hand. And so we get to the back and
Speaker 1: Johnny As is like who told you you can gig?
Speaker 1: Who told you? It's like, are you even watching what's
Speaker 1: going on? I was like, uh no. He shot on
Speaker 1: me and went what and uh I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: I gave him the cliff notes like right there. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, forever reason he doesn't like me. This
Speaker 1: goes back to my way. Oh it's inexcusable, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So we uh, you know, I we go further down
Speaker 1: the hallway to where Gorilla was, where Vince was, and
Speaker 1: uh there's John and he's you said stuff about me
Speaker 1: on the internet. And I was like, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I just all could do is throw the hands and
Speaker 1: go dude whatever. You know. So they take me downstairs
Speaker 1: and I get stitched up, and they have Heavener find
Speaker 1: me and he doubles my pay for the night, and well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, oh here okay, kills me off a couple
Speaker 1: And then on the ride home I later found out
Speaker 1: because we're all riding home together, Uh my own on
Speaker 1: Finnegan said they were going to take me straight to
Speaker 1: the hospital. Well they were, yeah they were. And if
Speaker 1: you remember, we stopped off at like I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was a Roy Rogers or was it Wendy's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just like this little truck stop. Yeah, we said
Speaker 1: it was a little sign, little thing, and I remember
Speaker 1: holding ice on your face. We're like, can we have
Speaker 1: bags of ice please? Because you were so swollen your face.
Speaker 1: You look like you had gotten bit by like forty
Speaker 1: two beas. That's what it reminded me of you. You're
Speaker 1: honestly your eyes were swoll your face as well. My
Speaker 1: heart was broken, and I just remember sitting next to
Speaker 1: you and I'm holding I was holding the ice on
Speaker 1: your face, and you just had your head down the
Speaker 1: whole time, and I was just like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 1: this is this is beyond a shoot Like I've never
Speaker 1: seen anybody like. I don't mean to keep emphasizing it,
Speaker 1: but I have never seen anybody shoot on somebody like that.
Speaker 1: You didn't even you didn't even cause a stink about it.
Speaker 1: You just took it like a man and just was like,
Speaker 1: well whatever. And I mean they I don't consider it
Speaker 1: stooging what you did, because they asked you what happened.
Speaker 1: You were telling the truth, you know, So I don't
Speaker 1: think you was this. I'm a better gigger than that,
Speaker 1: you know. Just yeah, you were. He was a mess. Guys.
Speaker 1: I remember watching it live because you're watching it and
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, what what's going on over there? Because
Speaker 1: you see JBL's wild arm just like kind of fly
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I remember watching a lot of being like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, that's crazy. He's doing this and I'm throwing
Speaker 1: my rights, you know. And if you watch the SmackDown,
Speaker 1: because they did a SmackDown, like in the next day
Speaker 1: or two, he's got like makeup under he got hey,
Speaker 1: I a little rabbit and a little mouse bruise under
Speaker 1: his eye, little mouse bruise while me and he's walking
Speaker 1: dead over here. Yeah, it was terrible. I looked like
Speaker 1: a garbage pail kid. Uh good, there's no fishbones around
Speaker 1: your trash cans. But you you weren't really really bad shape.
Speaker 1: My I mean, I felt so bad for you that night,
Speaker 1: and all I can do. I kept saying, are you okay?
Speaker 1: Are you okay? And I remember just holding ice on
Speaker 1: your face in the van. Yeah, and much of that
Speaker 1: ride home, Yeah, you were very somber. I will tell you.
Speaker 1: You had your head down and we were just like,
Speaker 1: do you do you want to go anywhere? Do you
Speaker 1: need anything? But I just remember I told the lady
Speaker 1: at Wendy's, I need a big bag of ice, and
Speaker 1: they gave us. They gave us ice because he was
Speaker 1: He's a mess. And I have never seen anything like
Speaker 1: that in my life. The funny thing is we're walking
Speaker 1: back to the van from Manhattan Center and uh, I
Speaker 1: see Paul and I apologize. I'm sorry. Oh, He's like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. He's like he's like, he
Speaker 1: took his best shot and he couldn't knock you out,
Speaker 1: So what are you apologizing for? There you go. I
Speaker 1: was like, sorry, I ruined your Black Panther party. And
Speaker 1: I was just like, apologize and for something it wasn't
Speaker 1: You didn't have to apologize. But that's your nature, that's
Speaker 1: the way you are, your your I know, I do
Speaker 1: it too. I do it too. And I remember apologizing
Speaker 1: the events and he goes stop saying sorry, and I go, okay,
Speaker 1: so sorry, and he's like sorry I was. I was like,
Speaker 1: like you said somber and I got home. I went
Speaker 1: to bed. I woke up, and I didn't really get
Speaker 1: fired up until the next day. And I walked downstairs
Speaker 1: and my mom saw my face and the way she reacted.
Speaker 1: My mom reacted sent me the fuck off. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can we swear? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could swear so And that's when I just started
Speaker 1: writing blogs about it, and I posted the photo. I
Speaker 1: sent the photo to you know. I posted a photo
Speaker 1: on my blue Meeni dot com when I owned that
Speaker 1: back in the day, and everybody picked up on it,
Speaker 1: and then I started writing blogs about it and how
Speaker 1: I was angry about it and yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: a couple of months later, uh, Dreamer. Well, in the meantime,
Speaker 1: like when we had gone to One Night's Stand that day,
Speaker 1: Nova I said he was pitching like a mini BW
Speaker 1: O reunion WW because Stevie was going from Velocity to SmackDown.
Speaker 1: SmackDown's Blue and White colors. B w's the blue white colors.
Speaker 1: So a couple months after the maybe a month or
Speaker 1: two after One night stand, Uh, Tommy Dreamer calls. He goes, Meanie, Uh,
Speaker 1: we want to bring you out to uh Sacramento. This
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with jbl blah blah blah. I'm
Speaker 1: like thinking that it's Nova doing the BW thing. I
Speaker 1: get there, get to the building and Johnny As goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're working john jbl tonight went great. You lied to me.
Speaker 1: First of all, anybody who ever comes on this show
Speaker 1: and has a Dreamer story always does this voice inevitable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but why would Tommy? Why would why did Tommy do that?
Speaker 1: Did you did you call him on it? Well? No, no,
Speaker 1: I disfigured. They told him to tell me something and
Speaker 1: then they you know, plants. He's like, yeah, you're working,
Speaker 1: uh jbl h, you're hitting the moon salt. When then
Speaker 1: one two three, I was like, does John know this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, he loves what's great, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I'm standing there and I'm just like, this feels
Speaker 1: like a setup, you know, I'm I'm just standing there
Speaker 1: like and to his credit, Triple h comes over to me.
Speaker 1: He goes, meanie, you look worried. I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what's going on. And he goes, wait one minute,
Speaker 1: he walks away, comes back, just come with me, and
Speaker 1: he takes me into Vince's office and then you know,
Speaker 1: I walk in and Vince is having a steak and
Speaker 1: he's watching like the sizzle reel for Hogan those Best
Speaker 1: which is like showhat an air yet, but he's watching
Speaker 1: like dailies or whatever and stuff. Ah meanie, go sit
Speaker 1: on the couch, you know. So I go sit in
Speaker 1: this couch and like it's this is in Sacramento, July four,
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, sitting on his couch and then uh,
Speaker 1: Johnny Ace Triple h Fence come in and we have
Speaker 1: a heart to heart talk. I was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: this is what happened. Blah blah blah, this is how
Speaker 1: I feel. It feels kind of like the inside. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I assure you mean me that if John does the
Speaker 1: same thing again, he will be fired. All right, Oh
Speaker 1: all right, okay, and don't have a roll quarters by
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, uh uh. I'm standing there. And then
Speaker 1: John comes in and I just you know, you feel
Speaker 1: attention and it's kind of like his his cowboy has
Speaker 1: like the dorsal fin and jaws, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: standing there. I'm just bracing because I still don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable and you haven't. There's no there's no interactions from
Speaker 1: one night stand to this night between you two now
Speaker 1: other than yelling at each other in gorilla position. That's it, okay.
Speaker 1: And so eventually a little bit he comes up, I
Speaker 1: feel tap of my should. He goes you want to
Speaker 1: go talk and it's John. I'm like, all right, so,
Speaker 1: uh you know you've been to TVs. There's signs everywhere seamstress,
Speaker 1: Vince's office, uh, Richie from Magic Catering, this, that and
Speaker 1: the other thing. As We're walking further and further down
Speaker 1: the hall. I'm seeing less and less signs. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: if we go to a room, and if we go
Speaker 1: into a room and there's plastic on the floor, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking running And I'm I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: Joe Petchy and Goodfellas, you know when he thinks he's
Speaker 1: about to be made and takes one back of the
Speaker 1: head Jesus. So we go in a room. John shuts
Speaker 1: the door, locks it. I'm like, huhhh he locks it. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you I don't know. Maybe I'm being because
Speaker 1: we could talk where we'll fight. I was like, God, damn, John, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight. Yeah, I never wanted to fight.
Speaker 1: You guys, Like, as a matter of fact, I was
Speaker 1: one of your biggest fans before coming to here in
Speaker 1: ninety because I legit loved his work. Yeah, remind me
Speaker 1: of Stan Hans and all this stuff. And uh, I said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: this is what happened. You know when I was here,
Speaker 1: I listed everything boom boom boom boom boom boom, boom
Speaker 1: boom boom. He's like, well, you know, uh, yes, I
Speaker 1: don't remember that. Blah blah, blah. He's like, look, let's
Speaker 1: go out there, you know, and he apologized most importantly apologized,
Speaker 1: and you know, let's go out there and make some money.
Speaker 1: Is it all right? And uh? You know, you know,
Speaker 1: time flies by, and uh, I'm on Twitter and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, somebody goes am mine to see him?
Speaker 1: Or is jbl final following the Blue MENI on Twitter
Speaker 1: and he goes, I love me and he so, uh
Speaker 1: and there you go. Well yeah, but yeah, since then,
Speaker 1: you know, John's apologized. Yeah, he almost got into the
Speaker 1: Royal Rumble in Philly. I had just done you see,
Speaker 1: I'll be on release Fine three for WW with Steve
Speaker 1: Richards and Joey South. I was like, He's like, what
Speaker 1: better way to promote the DVD than the have you
Speaker 1: come out in Philly and say the host of BLA,
Speaker 1: I don't care bushwhacker me, I'll walk in shit came
Speaker 1: in out the other side and I'll be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he almost got me in and it's down to me
Speaker 1: and Bubba, and they chose Bubba, which is cool, you know,
Speaker 1: but he made the effort and he's done a lot
Speaker 1: of other cool things for me to help me. So
Speaker 1: you know, the sad thing is people when it comes
Speaker 1: to something, you know, something like that, it was an
Speaker 1: ugly incident, and people remember the initial headline. They never
Speaker 1: they never read the fine print or the retraction. When
Speaker 1: you know, people will you know, make amends and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So me and him have been like for
Speaker 1: the last since two thousand and five, been like, no,
Speaker 1: we're good now, right right. I was just on his
Speaker 1: podcast and people are still going, what about that JBL thing?
Speaker 1: I just sent him the link. Well, that's why I
Speaker 1: wanted you to talk about it again, because you know,
Speaker 1: my listeners mightn't know the story, and because I had you.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me. One of the things I remember
Speaker 1: going around when you went back and worked for WWE,
Speaker 1: people were saying they, now, this is just speculation and
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any truth to it. One
Speaker 1: of the rumors going around was that they had you
Speaker 1: back there so you wouldn't sue them. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: never talking. Well, here's the thing. After the one I
Speaker 1: stand thing happened, I went through like behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: real life shit where I had people coming at me
Speaker 1: from all sides. I had people going, man, you should
Speaker 1: really sue to the people going what are you a pussy?
Speaker 1: You know? And I all I did was to say
Speaker 1: I is wrong. You know, There's some well known people saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could probably sue, and then people from other companies
Speaker 1: reaching out to me saying, ah, you should sue. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want me to sue, don't you. But then you know,
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, have you ever worked stiff? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, block, that was work. I was like, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a work, but like I went through a lot
Speaker 1: of shit personally, people who thought I was being a
Speaker 1: baby about something being wrong, and then the other people
Speaker 1: who wanted me to sue. But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: if we're going to you know, be real about it
Speaker 1: in hindsight, you know, looking at through my I'll say
Speaker 1: my age, my forty nine year old eyes, there's your age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's my age. I could block it if you want
Speaker 1: to believe it. So just through my forty nine year
Speaker 1: old eyes. The whole one night Stanping might have been
Speaker 1: the best thing that happened to me in a way
Speaker 1: because because uh, I got you know, released from WWE.
Speaker 1: Around that time, a grandma had passed away. We were
Speaker 1: at Hammerstein for one of those double shots my grandma
Speaker 1: passed away, and then I was in a relationship and
Speaker 1: that kind of went awry, right right right. I don't
Speaker 1: say the name because she might pop up like Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: but just no, no, no, I was in a bad relationship.
Speaker 1: That relationship spawned a wrestling company that actually enjoyed but
Speaker 1: didn't enjoy this stress of it. But it ended very badly.
Speaker 1: So in the course of you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: months that ended badly. The wrestling promotion ended badly, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know, a couple other things
Speaker 1: happened with people I don't want to put over. I
Speaker 1: was in a really dark spot. I was in a
Speaker 1: real bad way and maybe had like twenty dollars to
Speaker 1: my name, and I just like looking for, you know,
Speaker 1: a solution. And then I was relieved, you know, I
Speaker 1: got invited to the ECW reunion shows, and like during
Speaker 1: the course of that time, I kind of stopped being
Speaker 1: the blue meanie. I was the blue meaning by name,
Speaker 1: but like I changed my look. I was doing different
Speaker 1: things and going back to you know, doing one I
Speaker 1: stand and actually putting back on the blue hair and
Speaker 1: the original makeup and the hair shirt and the daisy
Speaker 1: Dukes can get back out on TV. And you know,
Speaker 1: what happened when I stand was bad, but I kind
Speaker 1: of found out like who my friends were. I kind
Speaker 1: of you know, you know, figured out who my true
Speaker 1: friends were. And it got me back out there to realize,
Speaker 1: you know, the fans still care. I had lost all confidence,
Speaker 1: I had lost all every sense of worth because of
Speaker 1: I was just taking live rounds between Grandma's death, bad relationship, promotion,
Speaker 1: drama with that, losing friends, all this shit was happening
Speaker 1: within that course of the years. I called my dark
Speaker 1: ears and then boom one night saying happens, it sucks.
Speaker 1: But somehow it got me back on my footing and
Speaker 1: I got back being me, and you know, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: They didn't bring me back because and that's why I
Speaker 1: brought up the Nova thing. They were Initially there was
Speaker 1: talks about bringing me back because Nova wanted to do
Speaker 1: d BWO thing, But that just expedited it because after
Speaker 1: the JBL match on SmackDown, we had a little mini
Speaker 1: feud with the Mexicools and stuff like that, and I
Speaker 1: got to be on a Grand America Bash and you know,
Speaker 1: do stuff, you know, and then then these you know,
Speaker 1: came a calling and my life. I got my life
Speaker 1: back on track because of an incident that was so bad,
Speaker 1: you know. And if you think about it too, it's
Speaker 1: like if you would have sued, god knows how much
Speaker 1: money you would have got, but it might have tarnished
Speaker 1: your wrestling career. So if you still want to perform
Speaker 1: and be a wrestler, you might have been blackballed, you know,
Speaker 1: by certain people. Were the ones who think you're a
Speaker 1: pussy or you couldn't take the beating or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: it might have if like, in my opinion, if you
Speaker 1: didn't want to be in the business anymore, I would
Speaker 1: have said, yeah, go ahead and sue. You know, you
Speaker 1: were trying to pursue another career, Yeah, go sue, trying
Speaker 1: to make a buck or two or whatever. But you
Speaker 1: still had, you know, something inside you told you not
Speaker 1: to do it, and you bounced back and you were
Speaker 1: able to start working again and getting on TV and
Speaker 1: doing these bigger things. So you made the right decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and trust me, I had lawyers call me too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you represent me pro bono. We heard, I mean there
Speaker 1: were we heard. I heard all these different things, and
Speaker 1: I was just like I said, to myself, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna sue. I knew. I knew. I said, he's got
Speaker 1: wrestling in his veins. I said, he's not going to
Speaker 1: do it because it's gonna that's going to just slam
Speaker 1: a door for him. And you know, even though you
Speaker 1: think you could get a million dollars, you're never going
Speaker 1: to get that much money anyway, so you might as
Speaker 1: well just out. You come out. I would probably have
Speaker 1: like fifty bucks. No, I think you would have got
Speaker 1: more dollars. JBL has never like with me and I.
Speaker 1: I've I've probably had about ten interactions with them over
Speaker 1: my whole wrestling career. But I can say in those
Speaker 1: ten interactions, he's been such a gentleman and so nice
Speaker 1: and courteous to me. And you hear all these stories
Speaker 1: about him and I and I know there's always two
Speaker 1: sides to every story, but I'm just like, man, he's
Speaker 1: so nice, like you know, and then you have like
Speaker 1: other people like Justin Roberts. I read his book and
Speaker 1: and it's terrible. You know, people do change. And it's
Speaker 1: good that you were able to sit down and discuss
Speaker 1: things with him and kind of smooth everything out. But
Speaker 1: I tell you what. It was awful. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: really awful. I'll never discount anybody else's experiences with John.
Speaker 1: That's between him and those folks, right, But the John
Speaker 1: that I eventually became friends with is way different than
Speaker 1: the John from ninety eighty two thousand. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: and now that was the wild West, you know, the
Speaker 1: Attitude era and uh, you know, people a little crazy
Speaker 1: on the road and stuff like that. So I could
Speaker 1: have just been collateral damage and whatever he was going
Speaker 1: through and that's none of my business. But you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it sucked. Yeah. Oh I had good time,
Speaker 1: Like I had good times in ww during Attitude too.
Speaker 1: But there's like that stuff. And what's your favorite time?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite time? Yeah, we're discussing this this crap session,
Speaker 1: let's still have a good moment. What was a favorite
Speaker 1: moment that you dude? My favorite moment was WrestleMania fifteen
Speaker 1: in my hometown of Uh. That's awesome, dude. I was
Speaker 1: born in Philly. Uh, May May nineteen seventy three at
Speaker 1: two pm on a Friday. Look at that, because my
Speaker 1: mom tells me, and we then we had Chinese food.
Speaker 1: Oh so uh at my mom every time I do
Speaker 1: my mom's voice. It's like Edith Bunk Bunker Brian. Uh,
Speaker 1: can you go to McDonald to get me a black
Speaker 1: and white cheek? Yes? Ma? But uh, you know I
Speaker 1: was born in South Philly. Uh you know. Uh. I
Speaker 1: debuted for E c W Philly, debut for w W
Speaker 1: and Philly. I had my WrestleMania moment in Philly, and
Speaker 1: most recently I debuted for ae W in Philly. So
Speaker 1: crazy get to do things in this town you were
Speaker 1: born in. Uh, I'm unapologized Homer when it comes to Philly.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, everything Philly. So that had to be the
Speaker 1: cool thing. I love doing this stuff with gold Dust.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite, one of my best matches, my
Speaker 1: favorite matches was me and gold Dust versus the Hardy's
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Heat. We had a really good match
Speaker 1: to where you know, we get to the locker room
Speaker 1: and like people who I normally wouldn't think would put
Speaker 1: over that match. You know, Jerry Brisco comes up to
Speaker 1: me many great match, you know like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: just to work with you know, guys like the Hardy's
Speaker 1: work with Edge and Christian you know when they were
Speaker 1: just coming up and I related a lot to Edge,
Speaker 1: Christian and the Hardy's. You know, we're around the same age,
Speaker 1: like the same music. We're all listening like Pearl Jam
Speaker 1: and I'm giving him my giving them my Pearl Jam
Speaker 1: mixes on c when CD making CDs with a thing
Speaker 1: back then. But I love being around those guys and
Speaker 1: relatable and stuff like that. I had met Edge and
Speaker 1: Christian didn't want to like, uh, I'm still an e CW.
Speaker 1: ME and Nova did the indie out in Detroit and
Speaker 1: Edge and Christian won that show and it was like
Speaker 1: three shows. So uh, Nova decides to rib Edge and Christian.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, guys, I picked out your ring music
Speaker 1: for you. They're like, we're ready, so yeah he's. Edge
Speaker 1: and Christian are getting ready to go to the ring
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, girls and cars start playing
Speaker 1: playing and they the ring and they started. They both
Speaker 1: had this really good Rick martel impersonation where you know,
Speaker 1: they're doing the jumping up and down like Rick does
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And then we uh had to
Speaker 1: do a run in on their match and we run
Speaker 1: in and this is around like Christmas time in Detroit
Speaker 1: and there's like a Santa Claus at the show and
Speaker 1: then Me, Edge, Christian and Nova all turned heel on
Speaker 1: Santa Claus and beat beat him up. This is the
Speaker 1: second time you've turned heel on Santa Claus, by the way,
Speaker 1: because the first time we talked about this over the weekend.
Speaker 1: What's you and Stevie Times Square? Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite promos ever when they
Speaker 1: super kick sample and that was just a guy on
Speaker 1: the street. That's that's the beauty of E c W.
Speaker 1: You do those wanting gum promos. We're filming and this
Speaker 1: guy goes, I want to be on TV and we're like,
Speaker 1: can you take a Stevie kick? And he's like looking
Speaker 1: at what and we explained it and Stevie walking and
Speaker 1: the one the air was the second take we did it. Uh,
Speaker 1: we have to do that again and the guy had
Speaker 1: to take it what you know, concrete, the nasty plunge.
Speaker 1: He took the nexty plunge on concrete and got up
Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, thanks bye and we'll walking. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like hey day And I was like it's e
Speaker 1: c W. Yeah, that's so great. I love that. That's
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, next to Premium where which you
Speaker 1: co starred with me, and and uh people love that
Speaker 1: for sure. Many a man hated me for in that commercial.
Speaker 1: Great funniest c CW story that you can think of
Speaker 1: off the top of your head. Oh my god, one
Speaker 1: of them, one of them. It could be at the
Speaker 1: travel Lodge. It doesn't have to be. Travel Lodge is
Speaker 1: put over a lot on this show. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: building we called, I call it the Cylinder of Sin,
Speaker 1: a spherical and it looks like it needs a condom
Speaker 1: on it. Yes, I agree, but uh, probably one of
Speaker 1: my favorite moments is you know we were I was
Speaker 1: wrestling Jason Knight around the Loop and uh, you know
Speaker 1: we would have you know, Jason was kind enough to
Speaker 1: put me over excuse me, pin one two three, and
Speaker 1: I was doing the y m C A gimmick that
Speaker 1: I had we eventually did on Wressell Plues in ninety eight,
Speaker 1: but before that, we're going around loop with Jason and
Speaker 1: having this quick little match pin them one two three,
Speaker 1: why m C I. And we come back through the
Speaker 1: curtain and I want to say it was Allentown or uh,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that place downtown Downingtown. Thank you. Come
Speaker 1: through the curtain and Downingtown and there's Shane Douglas, Big
Speaker 1: Did Dougley and the rest of the locker room going
Speaker 1: why yeah, because the music is still playing. Me. I
Speaker 1: just see Big Nick Dougley doing the MC and then
Speaker 1: doing at the e c W Arena. You see these
Speaker 1: guys in like leather biker jackets going, oh why you know,
Speaker 1: get the CWR crowd to do the y m c A.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a fun moment. You know, does
Speaker 1: a fun loop and time. You know, as far as
Speaker 1: stories go that I could tell, Okay, yeah, well a
Speaker 1: lot of it's in the vault and we understand it.
Speaker 1: How many times have you pooped your pants in the
Speaker 1: rnk uh in my career? Three times? Why I'm not zero?
Speaker 1: Just to let and now rookie, I know, good work.
Speaker 1: It was like January third eight. Yeah, you know, would
Speaker 1: you believe I read? Okay, let me tell the story first.
Speaker 1: I know this because uh me Nova and Randy samd
Speaker 1: guy drove out to Detroit for these the sloop of
Speaker 1: shows and uh they picked me up on New Year's Day,
Speaker 1: which is you know, the Mummers Parade, so it's com
Speaker 1: forever to find my house. We drove halfway so it
Speaker 1: might have been January second. So we do. We're doing
Speaker 1: a show in Inkster, Michigan at a community center. Is
Speaker 1: this for WWE? For ECW? Oh, it's for ECW okay.
Speaker 1: And the cool thing about doing this show is, you know,
Speaker 1: I started my career out in Ohio and Michigan, so
Speaker 1: I had wrestled in this building as Brian Rollins, as
Speaker 1: Ebra Kid, and now I've come back as the Blue
Speaker 1: Meanie and all the fans to watch me on the
Speaker 1: Michigan indie scene are watching me at this show, which
Speaker 1: is kind of cool. So I wrestling Jason again. You know,
Speaker 1: two minutes into the match, you close, I take a
Speaker 1: flat back and a hair you know, it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of like this, and uh, that's the second time you
Speaker 1: heard that. I have a I have a Roadcaster Pro
Speaker 1: which has a sound born on it. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: have to get one of those breaking news you know
Speaker 1: there because that again you popped, because that's one of
Speaker 1: my text tones. It's like, what the hell, you're so filly?
Speaker 1: So you know, he closed lines me and in my pants,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, but I know it wasn't mess.
Speaker 1: It was like more like a like a tater tot.
Speaker 1: But uh like, so we're wrestling and he, you know,
Speaker 1: snap mares me over, puts me in the chin lock
Speaker 1: and I'm just wafting in it. And uh Bill Wilds
Speaker 1: was managing me at the time. He was boogle boogoloo
Speaker 1: Bill Wilds. And the smell of this hits ring side
Speaker 1: and Bill doesn't know it's me. Okay, so he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you people. He looks at the crack. You people stick
Speaker 1: to the other side of the ring. So the smell
Speaker 1: hits the other side. He goes, oh, down bathe you know,
Speaker 1: so we finished the match. I had to miss the
Speaker 1: moon salt and all this. Oh you imagine in my days,
Speaker 1: duke h. I go into the locker room and sam
Speaker 1: An stooped me off. The word got back to the
Speaker 1: locker room when that happened, and Stamon is like, yow pants,
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't even go in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I go right for the showers. I keel off, you know,
Speaker 1: blah blah boom. I got one. I got one shower.
Speaker 1: Hit me in the head, one shower you know, from
Speaker 1: you know, behind, like I'm hosing off like a circus
Speaker 1: elephant in the said I didn't know that I felt it,
Speaker 1: but you know, better be safe either way. Paul walks
Speaker 1: in in the rest locker room and they're just like
Speaker 1: golf clap, Yeah, so clean up, and I go and
Speaker 1: throw my underwear on the roof, you know, stat being
Speaker 1: a gentleman throwing the trash. So I was like, let
Speaker 1: me get rid of the evidence. Threw it on the hook,
Speaker 1: did the cream abdul Jabar skyhook under the roof. And
Speaker 1: I recently just went on Google Earth and looked up
Speaker 1: the building. I was waiting to see, like if there's
Speaker 1: a chalk outline around him, like maybe a bird took
Speaker 1: them or something, and then the bird got disgusted and
Speaker 1: he'd like spit them out here. Bathe. I can attest
Speaker 1: to how bad your gases because we've traveled together a lot.
Speaker 1: I've shared a locker room with you for years. The
Speaker 1: funniest story I might read it before, but now that
Speaker 1: you're here, I have to say it again. We weren't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't e c W. I think it might have
Speaker 1: been a loop for Shane Douglas that we were on
Speaker 1: right home coming. We were somewhere and we had gone
Speaker 1: either to a restaurant, restop or to eat. And we
Speaker 1: were coming back getting into a car, and next to
Speaker 1: our car was another car and there was a woman
Speaker 1: sitting in the car. Yes, well she was in there
Speaker 1: and her window unfortunately was down. Menie stands in front
Speaker 1: of stands in front of her window. It passes as
Speaker 1: right in this I thought. I thought it was one
Speaker 1: of those things. I thought, like some so I like
Speaker 1: to rib right. You know when I worked in the casinos,
Speaker 1: you know, uh in Atlantic City, you know, I was
Speaker 1: working doing garage duty and somebody had their win it
Speaker 1: down reaching and turned the volume knob up on the
Speaker 1: radio this, you know. But I was like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: windows down. I didn't see the lady. He parted. It
Speaker 1: was loud and just crude, and I went, what round?
Speaker 1: Oh ate my face, red face. She looked like she
Speaker 1: was gonna face just turned the milk white. She was like,
Speaker 1: she gasped. I was like what. I get in the
Speaker 1: car and go what are you doing? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was there. I said, you did
Speaker 1: you do it? God? There's one time running in Dayton
Speaker 1: for heat wave. I have a friend Jeremiah, and uh
Speaker 1: I stayed at his house. He lets right over in
Speaker 1: Kentucky and we go to uh I want to say
Speaker 1: King's Dominion, and there's a top gun ride. I had
Speaker 1: the worst guess that day. And we're we're on stairs
Speaker 1: going up this ride and we're just waiting our turn,
Speaker 1: and I just want hey, guys, guys, And there's a
Speaker 1: family behind me. People are behind me. And I didn't
Speaker 1: even look, but my friend Jeremiah to look on his
Speaker 1: face watching them. He was he had tears coming down
Speaker 1: his eyes like he was eating hot wings. It would
Speaker 1: have been great if you know how they take pictures
Speaker 1: on the rides, if you would have farted and the
Speaker 1: flashmoan went off with the people are behind you disgusting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the moment, the moment of impact. Yeah, I stopped the
Speaker 1: concert with the fart once. I swear to God, remember
Speaker 1: remember why I was, Remember why I was skinny? Mean
Speaker 1: me for a second there, get down to like two forty.
Speaker 1: I was neither the could they. I was doing the
Speaker 1: protein thing and we're we went to see a band
Speaker 1: called the Atomic Punks at the Whiskey of Go Go
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Now the singer and the guitar player from
Speaker 1: the Atomic Punks went on to become Steel Panther Michael
Speaker 1: and Satchel whatever his name is now. They keep changing
Speaker 1: their names. And I was just on a tear and uh,
Speaker 1: I was losing weight. But we're at the show and
Speaker 1: there's a group of women behind me dancing and they
Speaker 1: keep pumping into me. I'm just like, I'm like watching
Speaker 1: the band, and I'm like, you know, it's like I'm
Speaker 1: being rear rent, like slowly rearended, you know. So I
Speaker 1: was like, and then like they're grabbing on my I'm
Speaker 1: wearing a BW shirt like tank top, you know, a
Speaker 1: muscle shirt without the muscles, and yeah, they're grabbing the
Speaker 1: back of my shirt and like eating it. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, ew, I just snuzzled my butt cheeks on
Speaker 1: the one lady's thigh and just let it fucking rip.
Speaker 1: It was warm too, It's like you could have opened
Speaker 1: mail with it. Oh the glue. And all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they went they were like behind me dancing. They
Speaker 1: were dancing like this. I turned around. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: dancing like this, you know, with their shirts over their feet.
Speaker 1: Stop dancing made it put you over except for this
Speaker 1: Oh no, but and but like the main band hadn't
Speaker 1: come on yet, So I'm just like, I let the
Speaker 1: one go, and it's kind of like inviting vampires into
Speaker 1: your house. There's it brings friends. So I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, there's more so like Avery. A couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh hum mm hmmm, like a trumpet with
Speaker 1: his asshole. You got your own band, Dizzy Gillespie, uh
Speaker 1: with the cheeks puffed out. And eventually somebody at the
Speaker 1: bar at the back of the fucking whiskey goes, please
Speaker 1: stop farting a one hundred yards away, you sir, stop dude.
Speaker 1: It was nuclear. It was like I can't. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: band We Go to Sea comes on, and like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm clenched. I'm trying not to because I really
Speaker 1: want to enjoy this band. Yeah, I'm a band handle Mark.
Speaker 1: So I was making this part up. They're playing the
Speaker 1: song you Really Got Me and uh, Ralph Michael Starr
Speaker 1: aka Michael Stars walking towards me and I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: so well that one go and it's like he's walking
Speaker 1: this this way and my heart's going up this way
Speaker 1: and it's just like that they two ships meeting at
Speaker 1: the night just and he he just went oh, the microphone.
Speaker 1: I showed a stop, stop, stop, he's fucking he's waving
Speaker 1: his arm. He's just WHOA. The band stops playing, and
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, somebody in the crowd is shipp there.
Speaker 1: Every hand in the bar pointed to me, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I was with, uh, who's the guy
Speaker 1: who did the photos for e c W dot com? Uh?
Speaker 1: Quickly he was yeah, yeah. I messaged his brother, thinking
Speaker 1: it was him. I was like, remember that time I
Speaker 1: stopped the band. He's like, no, that my brother Jim,
Speaker 1: And here's all over my face right now I'm crying.
Speaker 1: Jim quick testified on my behalf that yeah, I stopped
Speaker 1: the contract with a fart. I'll send you that's great
Speaker 1: photographic proof. But yeah, well I I can attest because
Speaker 1: I've smelt it several times. Yeah, that's the only word
Speaker 1: I could use. My grandma would say, I think you
Speaker 1: need a physic. No, well, if you're not going to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, yeah, if you're just gassy, but if you're
Speaker 1: moving your boughs right yourly, no, no physics need it.
Speaker 1: You just need some for breeze and uh air, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to be such in a tight space, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you know, who needs to talk about where
Speaker 1: you started and who trained you because we're talking about
Speaker 1: shipping farts and and good stuff, and that's what this
Speaker 1: knock down JVL like that with a fart in the
Speaker 1: ring that night, and then that would have never happened.
Speaker 1: I I used to discuss Al Snow with my farts
Speaker 1: because like he, we would be bad. I was training
Speaker 1: with Al, and like you know, we'd be on the
Speaker 1: in the ring doing the thing. I would just let
Speaker 1: one go and I would do the rick Steiner around
Speaker 1: the ring, like run around the ring, just a fucking
Speaker 1: vapor trail everybody, and everybody would just you know, eliminate
Speaker 1: themselves out of the ring, just like, yeah, fart on
Speaker 1: me too. Oh he had bad. He's bad. He's stunk too.
Speaker 1: And he would if you ever notice, like if he
Speaker 1: would back me up in the corner and stand in
Speaker 1: front of me in the corner, that's when he would fart.
Speaker 1: He would do the Andre the Giant I suppose, but
Speaker 1: I mean we're on TV. I'm trying to be mean.
Speaker 1: And then I would go, did you just shake your
Speaker 1: pants like you smell? Like it was disgusting. He wasn't
Speaker 1: as bad as uh, com Ole Brack or whatever. Oh
Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, he used to drink the egg beaters
Speaker 1: in the locker room and just annihilation. And I haven't
Speaker 1: heard that name in years. Brocus, brock Brocus. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was the other dude. There was another big guy
Speaker 1: we had. What was his name? I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was the name you just said, Broncus.
Speaker 1: His real name was Brockets. I know who that is.
Speaker 1: He was the dude that we w w was grooming
Speaker 1: and then right, yeah, yeah, and he wore the chains.
Speaker 1: Then he disappeared. Yeah, I don't think the wrestling business
Speaker 1: before him. I don't think so either. But it was
Speaker 1: for you, and I'm glad you never left it, and
Speaker 1: we're all better to have you still around. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that you and I are still
Speaker 1: friends and kept in touch after all these years. For
Speaker 1: those who don't know, where can we find Mimi? What
Speaker 1: kind of merch do you have? This is going to
Speaker 1: take twenty minutes, everybody, But if you give us home
Speaker 1: down on your socials and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: well I've gotten this pitch down to a t. If
Speaker 1: you well, first of all, I have my own podcast
Speaker 1: to mine In the Meanie Podcast, which drops every Monday
Speaker 1: morning at six am, myself and Adam Bernard talk everything
Speaker 1: from wrestling, movie, sports, and useless knowledge. If you would
Speaker 1: like to support the Blue Meani, go to or actually
Speaker 1: go to Mineandemeni dot com or go to YouTube dot
Speaker 1: com slash Mindeddemeani. If you would like to support the
Speaker 1: Blue Meanie, go to Pro Wrestling Teas dot com, slash
Speaker 1: Mineandemanie or slash Blue Meenie, where you can get some
Speaker 1: very nifty Blue Meeni t shirts, including the BWO shirt,
Speaker 1: which I still sell to this day. If you want
Speaker 1: to follow me on, I thank you. If you would
Speaker 1: like to follow me on all my social media is
Speaker 1: go to whatever that social media is, Slash Blue Meeni, Bwo, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 1: and TikTok, which I kind of haven't figured out yet,
Speaker 1: but you know that's for the kids, man. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. You know. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do a video and then somebody's you know, does the
Speaker 1: reaction to it and the just videos. I bet you
Speaker 1: that would get over with the Yeah, you'd be over
Speaker 1: that if it works out. Are you anywork uh coming up?
Speaker 1: Do you have any gigs that we should know about. Uh,
Speaker 1: May twenty eighth, I will be at fair Point Toys.
Speaker 1: My good friend Justin Daniels and Penelope's White Penelope have
Speaker 1: a really cool collectible store in maze Landing, New Jersey
Speaker 1: called far Point Toys. They're doing a little uh toy
Speaker 1: fair and I'm gonna have my blue miniaction figures and ten.
Speaker 1: So come on out and say hello. May twenty eight,
Speaker 1: far Point Toys, Uh, Maze Landing, New Jersey. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: I must say this was very entertaining and therapeutic, therapeutic,
Speaker 1: long overdue. Again, I hate to, uh, you know, dwindle
Speaker 1: on the past, but I think a lot of and
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: things you told us today that I didn't know. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Yeah, I have closure now the whole situation.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. There's like certain things you know, your family,
Speaker 1: so whatever you say is you know, you can say
Speaker 1: whatever you want. But like if somebody else came up,
Speaker 1: like a stranger who doesn't know me that well, came
Speaker 1: up and the streams said something similar like yeah, mind
Speaker 1: your business power, you know it's it's you know, we're family,
Speaker 1: so we could talk. Yeah, And I didn't say anything
Speaker 1: out of line. I just lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of doors were still open that didn't have
Speaker 1: any resolutions to them, so I needed to. Now we're
Speaker 1: shutting the doors and everything's good. You heard it here.
Speaker 1: Stop asking me, because there's the story. Yea, it is there.
Speaker 1: It is. But I love you, buddy, I love you too,
Speaker 1: and we'll have you on for part two because I
Speaker 1: feel like there's more fun that we need to get
Speaker 1: out of you so down the line, so much, so much.
Speaker 1: Tis is a good word. Hopefully you and I will
Speaker 1: be together in another signing because this weekend was was
Speaker 1: a good time and I have a like a mini
Speaker 1: road trip. It was. It was. It was easy and
Speaker 1: fun and those are the best times. But we'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Give missus meanie my love, and I will I'll be
Speaker 1: in touch, absolutely all right, doll, Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: take care, bye bye bye. How fun was that? That
Speaker 1: was so fun? That was so fun? That's great. Yes,
Speaker 1: And he's hilarious and a good friend of mine. So
Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed that because I did, because
Speaker 1: it was really funny. Yeah, I you know, I think
Speaker 1: everybody always talks about b W E CW. But you
Speaker 1: know that time he was in WWF and ninety nine
Speaker 1: and threw into the early part of two thousand. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was in the Royal Rumble, he was at WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: he was in a big portion of TV for for
Speaker 1: a little bit of time there, and I think people
Speaker 1: forget about that. So cool that he could dial that
Speaker 1: back in the JBL story. He's great and his character
Speaker 1: is so like one of a kind and unique. And
Speaker 1: again I'm just I'm glad he didn't leave when things
Speaker 1: were looking grim because he's done so much and accomplished
Speaker 1: so much after that happened, So glad he was here.
Speaker 1: And this will make a very fun YouTube clip in
Speaker 1: the future. Absolutely, That's what I was already thinking about,
Speaker 1: like a funny graphic of gas clouds. Yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: time he was talking, I'm like, this is going on YouTube,
Speaker 1: this could hold. So that was people with a disgusted
Speaker 1: face his right there, you know, right, But him and
Speaker 1: I to backtrack, we did have a great time with
Speaker 1: Nick over at Captain's Corner. We had a really nice
Speaker 1: turnout at the store. Last minute changed less than twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. We had to change venues, but people did
Speaker 1: show up and it was a good time, and you know,
Speaker 1: the virtuals were fun. And Nick takes care of us
Speaker 1: greatly and said there was going to be a part
Speaker 1: three for me and a part two for Mimi, So
Speaker 1: looking forward to working with the Captain again. That indeed,
Speaker 1: it was very entertaining, so much so that I thought
Speaker 1: we should revisit it because I was entertained by it.
Speaker 1: And I think for the people that either don't know
Speaker 1: how to see it, don't know what goes on. And
Speaker 1: we've talked about virtuals and stuff, Well, if you've never
Speaker 1: seen one, I have the access to present to you
Speaker 1: a recap, virtual recap, So it's not going to be
Speaker 1: the full time because you were on there for a while.
Speaker 1: I did two hours. Yeah, it's not gonna be the
Speaker 1: two hours. Words. I picked some highlights because you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's natural. You talk, you chit chat, you know,
Speaker 1: you answer questions. It's very cool. So if you've never
Speaker 1: seen one before, we're going to drop one of those
Speaker 1: this week Patreon, this one with Nick from it. And
Speaker 1: I did a lot of singing that my throat was
Speaker 1: so sore when I came home because I was singing
Speaker 1: because the deal was if you bought something, you got
Speaker 1: to request a song, and I was. I was doing
Speaker 1: TV show themes. That was the the topic for that evening.
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I love we get the repertoire, you know, expanded. Look,
Speaker 1: you have to keep these people engaged. No one wants
Speaker 1: to just see you sit there and twiddle on your phone.
Speaker 1: You know. I have to do things to make them
Speaker 1: want to buy stuff. I've seen those. I've seen those
Speaker 1: virtuals where the guys is just on their phone worrying.
Speaker 1: I tried to Yeah, that one's to Bill. Okay, oh fine,
Speaker 1: thank you. And there was one point where I tried
Speaker 1: to get up and dance, but the way the camera was,
Speaker 1: it was all you saw were my breast and Nick goes,
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to dance at this angle.
Speaker 1: I go, okay. Then it was cool. It was a
Speaker 1: different setup too, so it was it was pretty good. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fine. It was a lot of fun. Say
Speaker 1: thanks again to Nick and I look forward to working
Speaker 1: with him again. Finish Patreon, and then we need to
Speaker 1: talk about Virginia. Yes, absolutely, I sent you the pictures
Speaker 1: in your emails. Perfect, But we're gonna talk about it
Speaker 1: on here as well. Yep, okay, So we're also we're
Speaker 1: going to have on our great good friend get my
Speaker 1: goes Mike Durband, who is a Patreon member who's going
Speaker 1: to come and say hi, And maybe we can learn
Speaker 1: a little bit more about Mike. You know, we when
Speaker 1: we bring out a patren member, it's get to know them.
Speaker 1: We kind of know him, you know, he's our he's
Speaker 1: our great good friend, like I said, and great good friend.
Speaker 1: I love that to get my goal line. So maybe
Speaker 1: we'll learn a little bit more about the man behind
Speaker 1: the mike, more about Mike. Yeah, we'll see what he's
Speaker 1: gotten his time allotted. And then we're going to watch
Speaker 1: Mikey whipwreck who was going through a crisis on screen,
Speaker 1: taking on Tommy Dreamer, who is there to help set
Speaker 1: Mikey straight. But the ending gets a little craik crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't remember this at all. Yes, this is in
Speaker 1: the early time. I'm of doctor James Father James Mitchell
Speaker 1: and Mikey's pairing. So Mikey is in the transition of
Speaker 1: lovable Mikey into that like eccentric Mikey and Dreamer is
Speaker 1: there to shut them up, but you get involved at
Speaker 1: the end and do I now, are you sure about that? Oh?
Speaker 1: You do? Oh, that's thought I did and I didn't
Speaker 1: this one? You do? You do? I earned my money
Speaker 1: this time? Okay, oh you yeah, you did well? That
Speaker 1: sounds good. Yeah. I love the Patreon and if you're
Speaker 1: not a member, I suggest you head on over to
Speaker 1: uh www dot patreon dot com Forward slash Francine Podcast
Speaker 1: and check us out because there are literally hundreds of
Speaker 1: things for you to scroll through and enjoy, and you
Speaker 1: also get to DM with me. You also get a
Speaker 1: discord at a certain tier, and we do our private
Speaker 1: discord chats every week. If you want to join at
Speaker 1: the one hundred dollars level, you get to co host
Speaker 1: the show. I believe I'm the only one offering that
Speaker 1: on in the podcasting world. I think you are. I
Speaker 1: think I am. I'm surprised no one has done it
Speaker 1: besides me. I'm a trendsetter. What can I say? You
Speaker 1: definitely are. I don't see the mind of me, me
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, I don't see that over there, He'll
Speaker 1: steal it eventually. That's okay, sir, good sir, You and
Speaker 1: I will be spending a weekend together coming up June
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth, or third and four? What's the fourth
Speaker 1: and fifth? Okay, Saturday? All right? Oh look that's sexy picture.
Speaker 1: So the first Squared Circle Collectibles all right? Uh, and
Speaker 1: this guy, me and me and the the franchise will
Speaker 1: be appearing in Winchester, Virginia. I don't see a time.
Speaker 1: Do we know a time? Yes, it's two o'clock, two o'clock? Okay?
Speaker 1: Two to what? Four? Five? Six? Five? Two to five?
Speaker 1: All right? So Square Circle Collectibles thirty three forty three
Speaker 1: Valley Pike Sweet one hundred in Winchester, Virginia to six
Speaker 1: zero two. Myself along with the franchise, we'll be offering
Speaker 1: photo ops U thirty, thirty and fifty for those who
Speaker 1: don't understand that it is thirty for a photo, thirty
Speaker 1: for an autograph or a combo for fifty dollars. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't been to Virginia in a very long time
Speaker 1: for anything. Yeah, so that'll be fun. And then the
Speaker 1: next day, which is June fifth, a public signing ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen with the four time ECW World Heavyweight Champion
Speaker 1: Shane Douglas again at the Sports sportsplexcuse me trade show
Speaker 1: that is on two twenty one Commonwealth Court in Winchester,
Speaker 1: Virginia to two six ZHO two that is from ten
Speaker 1: am to twelve pm. And I'm brought in by Ibexclusives
Speaker 1: dot Com for this one. The guy there is a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine and you know, great good friend.
Speaker 1: He'll be there, a great good friend. The Chachter will
Speaker 1: be there too, and yeah, it'll be fine. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to this weekend. So just got the info. I'll
Speaker 1: put it on my Twitter. If you missed what I said,
Speaker 1: it'll be posted. But a long time since I've been
Speaker 1: to Virginia and I've never signed there with Shane, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Well, you guys were in Richmond that
Speaker 1: when you did my show in Richmond a few years ago?
Speaker 1: Oh well how many years ago was that? At eighteen?
Speaker 1: And that was about three hours south of was I
Speaker 1: with shame for that? Jane was also there. Yes, you
Speaker 1: guys were unofficially there together. Oh okay, all right, well yeah,
Speaker 1: but we weren't in Winchester. We're in Winchester and you
Speaker 1: guys are taking over Winchester beautiful, beautiful area. So now
Speaker 1: square circle Collectibles is a wrestling themed store in Winchester.
Speaker 1: They've got guests there all the time, so you guys
Speaker 1: will be signing their Saturday and then this show Sunday
Speaker 1: is a sports card show, so it's your classic vendors
Speaker 1: and different people. There's a former Redskin is going to
Speaker 1: be there. I'd just have the name in front of me.
Speaker 1: There's a an actor who worked on The Walking Dead
Speaker 1: that's also going to be there that weekend, so it's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting Sunday, June fifth. Okay, is there
Speaker 1: is there a website that people can go to well
Speaker 1: for Squats Circle Collectibles. They can go to Facebook and
Speaker 1: they can search out Squirts Cerver Collectibles for I be exclusives.
Speaker 1: This one is unofficially not on the website. This one
Speaker 1: is just promoted in the inter group here. All right, well,
Speaker 1: if you see it on my Twitter, please share to
Speaker 1: everyone that you know that lives in the Virginia area
Speaker 1: because Square Cirver Collectibles on Facebook. Okay, all right, sounds good.
Speaker 1: So we'll be there and yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: At this look at the shades. He's like, Hey, what's
Speaker 1: going on over here? He sees Yeah, i'd like that franchise. Look,
Speaker 1: it looks pretty good. I like that shirt. So all right,
Speaker 1: we got to get out of here now because we
Speaker 1: got some stuff waiting in the wings. Okay, fabulous. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? At chatty and be on Twitter
Speaker 1: at IB Exclusives, on Instagram, ibexclusives dot com. If you
Speaker 1: want a perfectly rated shirt, got a couple left, just
Speaker 1: reach out to me and we'll get it to you.
Speaker 1: And come and say hi on June fifth and Winchester.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to be there, all right. Then across
Speaker 1: the board on social media for myself, you can find
Speaker 1: me at ECW Diva Francine And with that, that is
Speaker 1: a wrap