WEBVTT - The Blue Meanie

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're here to talk about Athletic Greens. Athletic Greens

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<v Speaker 1>is a product that I've worked into my daily routine

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted more energy, I wanted better gut health,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to optimize my immune system. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>taking vitamins, I hate taking pills every single day, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted a supplement that actually tastes grapes. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also wanted to see what the hype was about. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been taking it for about two weeks and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't taste like it's super healthy, but it's got kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mild tropical taste that I actually look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to each morning. With one delicious scoop of AG one,

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<v Speaker 1>you're absorbing seventy five high quality vitamins, minerals, whole food

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<v Speaker 1>source superfoods, and probiotics that help you start your day right.

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<v Speaker 1>This special blend of ingredient supports your gut health, your

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system, your immune system, your energy, your recovery, your focus,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course your aging. Every morning I start off

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<v Speaker 1>with my Athletic Greens. I get up before I have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to eat, I load it up, I take a swig,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm ready to start my day. Rolling in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction. What I've noticed, I've noticed a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>extra energy. I've noticed a little bit more awareness and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of that extra push that I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get everything done in a daily routine that

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<v Speaker 1>normally I'd be dragging and I'd be complaining the whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire day. But I was also in the group of

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<v Speaker 1>the tons of people that take some kind of multi

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<v Speaker 1>with high quality ingredients that your body will actually absorb.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I'll say about Athletic Greens It's lifestyle friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic Greens is the supplement for you. It contains less

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<v Speaker 1>So you're investing in your health and it's cheaper than

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get it going right here, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eyes up here, and you're listening and watching

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<v Speaker 1>and consuming and all new brand Spagan New Eyes up

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<v Speaker 1>here exclusively on our Patreon channel as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>Creative Control and Network. If you didn't know by now,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Chad. And every single week I got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to say. I have a big shpiel, it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm here, of course and joined by the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>of Extreme you have a lot to stay today or

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<v Speaker 1>just in general. No, it sounded like it was very

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<v Speaker 1>long winded. Now you say that every week, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it felt longer this week. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't. I don't know why either. As I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting ready to come down here, I made my

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<v Speaker 1>smoothie because I've been drinking a smoothie for lunch every

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<v Speaker 1>day trying to lose weight, and I spilled it. I

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<v Speaker 1>spilled it all over my floor and on my countertop.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to clean that real quick and I

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<v Speaker 1>salvage most I spilled the top. But it's relatively false.

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<v Speaker 1>So what kind of smoothie this is a It's chocolate moose,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just a protein shake. I add peanut butter

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<v Speaker 1>to it and some vanilla unsweetened dilmond milk, and it's delicious,

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<v Speaker 1>really good. Yeah, unsweet, and I like the sweet and

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<v Speaker 1>one better. But my husband he's like, no, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need the sugar, so, uh what the unsweet? But it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good and it fills me up. And because you

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<v Speaker 1>know I I fast every day until about eleven twelve

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock and this, this hits the spot. So I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been a smoothie guy. Okay, well it's a protein shake.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not protein shak. Right, Smoothie is the setting on

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<v Speaker 1>the blender. Okay, So I've never even the same thing. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been into the shakes. I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>too good to be true. No, you're good. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>used our great audio sponsor on Creative Control Network, the

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic Greens Mix. Yes, we've been using them for for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time now. My husband has been using them

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<v Speaker 1>for like, I would say, the last couple of years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you would. So you had told me that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they do. They sponsor the audio portion

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<v Speaker 1>on Creative Control, which you know, we splice the ad

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<v Speaker 1>into the audio version, which is the difference between being

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<v Speaker 1>a Patreon member and listening on Creative Control. Uh I,

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<v Speaker 1>At first I had to say I had my doubts

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<v Speaker 1>about the taste. It is a tropical drink when you

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<v Speaker 1>have some ice in that thing and you drink it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I've been enjoying it. I've been enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the athletic greens. So it's a cheap plug for our

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<v Speaker 1>plug that you will be hearing in audio forum in

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen minutes. Cheap plug for our plug, a chief

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<v Speaker 1>plug for our prug end product. But our guest is

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<v Speaker 1>ready to join the part. Hey and the ay for

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<v Speaker 1>extra emphasis. So I'm glad he's here. He has been

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine for gosh, I don't know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years or so, a very long time. I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to spend some time with him this weekend. Please

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<v Speaker 1>join me in welcoming the Blue Meanie Hey thanking his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes up here debut today. Are you my friend? Excellent?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. I've been trying to get you

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<v Speaker 1>now for like seventy two years. But you know, Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Guy's very busy. He's a bucket list guest for the

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<v Speaker 1>show we've been We definitely had him at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of that list. I am checking off my bucket list.

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<v Speaker 1>First thing, I want to say, happy belated. I reached

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<v Speaker 1>out on your birthday. But did it he had a

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<v Speaker 1>birthday a couple of days ago. Yes. Yes, And we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to disclose our age unless you you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to. No, no, no, See. I tell everybody I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fifty and I love it, and I kick and not

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<v Speaker 1>shimmy in a shake. But you know, well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a great stay saying you're young once, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can be immature forever. So I've taken that route. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that because I've traveled with you up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the road. Uh. Before we get into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>backstories and whatnot, we were together this past weekend. We're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to show hot with you. We didn't really We

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<v Speaker 1>do like recaps and we talk a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to today because we started right at noon.

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<v Speaker 1>MEI and I were working for Captain's Corner or a

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<v Speaker 1>friend Nick and Dave Cash was with us, Kid Cash

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a little mini reunion and we had

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<v Speaker 1>such a good time, don't you think. Hey, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>great when we can get together and reminisce, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like the cool thing about our crew. It's

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how far apart we how long it's been

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<v Speaker 1>since we seen each other last time, we just pick

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<v Speaker 1>up right where we left off. It's true because now

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<v Speaker 1>I had not seen you. I don't know. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember in the time you and Tracy came to

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<v Speaker 1>our house for dinner, that might have been it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was years ago. Yeah, but he talks to my

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<v Speaker 1>husband more than he talks to mend it. They had

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<v Speaker 1>this little man group. You know, I'm private to it

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<v Speaker 1>because I get shown some of the conversations once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while. If they're funny, he pops me with them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, but we're kids of the eighties and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of our eighties humor, eighties knowledge and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And yeah, we have another We had another

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<v Speaker 1>mutual friend within there. I'll protect him so he's innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's he's married and has a family now, so

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<v Speaker 1>I know I know who you're talking about either. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's another guy that was part of that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a wrestler, but like a lot of the boys,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said I'd be considered one of the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just me and him have this saying, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if this was nineteen ninety six, you know, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just leave it at that. But you know, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we we just yeah, it's crazy how I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>your better half more to more than you. I'm like, really, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's okay because we've kept in touch. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't speak, you know. But it's just the

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<v Speaker 1>boys club is running rampant, and it's fine because, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, some of these, some of these memes and jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am prevy too, and I shake my head, but

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<v Speaker 1>I pop at the same time, so I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good. So what should we talk about today?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody, how'd you get into the business?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many? How many things have you done?

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<v Speaker 1>And how many interviews have you done? That? Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>always uh yeah, I don't want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Autopilot. Tell that story. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just have out now if that's what's gonna happen. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen. I don't want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you're sick of talking about this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of my listeners might not know about it,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna have to bring it up. And please

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<v Speaker 1>don't be mad at me. Your family so you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about anything. Well, isn't that great? Uh, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to discuss jbl and and we we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this over the weekend and it's like, oh, not again.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people don't know how that came about.

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<v Speaker 1>People still ask me, and I'm just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there that night, but I don't know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really don't. I was there. I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>from the back because I was part of that show too,

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<v Speaker 1>in a nutshell. You don't have to go into logistics

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<v Speaker 1>and details, but what brought that on that evening? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we are Okay, so backstory that I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five ECW One night Stand pay per view. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I traveled with you. We all went to New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>We all got into a van that looked like, uh

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<v Speaker 1>it could uh you know, transport illegal aliens over the

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<v Speaker 1>border and all this the shadiness and there was like

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<v Speaker 1>ten of us in this van. We're going to the

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<v Speaker 1>paper view. I was a surprise. So Joey Styles literally

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<v Speaker 1>put a jacket over my head and drug me into

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<v Speaker 1>the building without anybody saying me but Minia Company, we

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<v Speaker 1>were all there. Tell us what happened that night? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you when you went into the building. Was there a

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<v Speaker 1>confrontation beforehand? Was there a heat? Did anybody like steoge

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<v Speaker 1>anything off to you? Did you know anything? What happened? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes back to my first run in WW. I

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<v Speaker 1>went into WW in ninety eight, November ninety eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>forever reason, you know, and again it's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>nail down to one specific incident, you know, but forever

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<v Speaker 1>reason JBL now in full disclosure. Now me and John

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<v Speaker 1>are cool so and people like to use that uh oh, JB,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be I was like, yeah, we're friends. We made

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<v Speaker 1>up over this, so forever reason, there's always like some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like remark or you know, when we're working

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring, I thought I felt he was taking

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<v Speaker 1>liberties in the ring. And you know, once I left

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<v Speaker 1>WWE and I was fired, I was like, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. But I said an interview with Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson or Chris Wardward buck Wardward, I said, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time in WWE, but JBL was a bully

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<v Speaker 1>and that's basically all I said, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it kept coming up. I was like, yeah, he bowled me.

0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a bully, and you know how excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not the first to say this about him. There

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<v Speaker 1>have been several stories out there. I might have been

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<v Speaker 1>the first at that time to publicly Oh okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This was in two thousand. When I said it, they

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<v Speaker 1>released me. So I think it's a case of you

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<v Speaker 1>know how the telephone game works, where what I say

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<v Speaker 1>this and by the time it gets to John, people

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<v Speaker 1>have embellished and oh man, wait till Minie. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you hear what Minie said about you, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know I had seen him over the years, like

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<v Speaker 1>I had stopped by a w W show. Everything was cool,

0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and then that day at when I stand, everything was fine,

0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey John, Hey me, Hey you do And then the

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<v Speaker 1>skirmish at the end, we were we we did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole rehearsal everything, and you know, we're all squaring off

0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and hey, you and I'm gonna beat you up and

0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever you say, right and uh I had

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<v Speaker 1>made a plan. Uh, one of the bashing brothers on

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<v Speaker 1>on on the other side, and I was like, hey,

0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.600
<v Speaker 1>let's just square off. You know, who knows if we're

0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.720
<v Speaker 1>ever going to see you know, I'm buddies with him.

0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who knows if we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>each other again. Let's just square off and do whatever.

0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Have a good time, right, Yeah, So the skirmish breaks out,

0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and uh, we're going back and forth, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, two nights before at the Forever Hardcore or

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<v Speaker 1>Hardcore Homecoming, Yeah, Saman busts open, uh with a ladder

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.040
<v Speaker 1>or a chair, and I had staples in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of my head and uh, I'm but flash forward to

0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.840
<v Speaker 1>when I stand I'm brawling with on the bash I

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<v Speaker 1>think Danny Basham and then all of a sudden, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a punch right in the back of my head on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the staples. So if you watch the food,

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<v Speaker 1>you see me grab my hand, go son of a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I turn around. It's John and we just you know,

0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he does the hockey. We start having a hockey fight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. He just pulls my shirt over my face

0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and I start swinging back and you can't see at

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<v Speaker 1>this point because your face is covered. But when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all went over our stuff because they make you

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<v Speaker 1>walk through everything. They're ridiculous. So when you went over this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>did he say I'm going to come from behind at

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<v Speaker 1>any point and try to square off with nothing? Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I think you know, Uh, there's one point where

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<v Speaker 1>I think I said something about his cowboy hat and

0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he just looked at me, and I was like, ah, ship,

0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I should have said that. I probably shouldn't say anything

0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:54.560
<v Speaker 1>about his cowboy hatter. So I don't know. And the ring, Huh,

0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you were in the ring when it wasn't like it

0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.480
<v Speaker 1>was a shoot like your hat. It's like we're working

0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you right right right right, kick your ass, but you know,

0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you know it's a work. So you know, he hits

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<v Speaker 1>me in the back of the head and we're we're fighting,

0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and I powder off and I grabed somebody and uh

0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.560
<v Speaker 1>bubo bo and then like guys are coming up to me.

0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Tracy Smothers walks up to me because I'm i'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bleeding, so uh okay, and then while walks up

0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, looks at me. Everybody's looking at me like

0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.800
<v Speaker 1>they thought I got collar. I was like, no, he

0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.520
<v Speaker 1>shot on me, and Tracy Smothers went over and uh,

0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.920
<v Speaker 1>if you watch sam Man puts his cane around him

0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and Tracy Smothers has well still in the ring. Yeah,

0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.720
<v Speaker 1>while while still going on, and you see Bubba pull

0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Mountain Whisper or something and tells him to uh skidaddle okay,

0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And we get to the back and uh, I'm you

0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>know we're doing uh there's still like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes where they have Bischoff in there with stone cold

0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and they're beating up Bishof and you see I you know,

0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.040
<v Speaker 1>they bring in beers for Steve. Also, I grab a

0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.960
<v Speaker 1>beer and put it right on my face like a state.

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I got one. I'm double fisted. I

0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.840
<v Speaker 1>got one on my face when I'm drinking one. Yeah,

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.119
<v Speaker 1>there's a photo that's floating around the internet. You know,

0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm all getmicked up. And I got the beer in

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. And so we get to the back and

0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Johnny As is like who told you you can gig?

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<v Speaker 1>Who told you? It's like, are you even watching what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? I was like, uh no. He shot on

0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:36.200
<v Speaker 1>me and went what and uh I was like yeah,

0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I gave him the cliff notes like right there. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, forever reason he doesn't like me. This

0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>goes back to my way. Oh it's inexcusable, blah blah blah.

0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So we uh, you know, I we go further down

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<v Speaker 1>the hallway to where Gorilla was, where Vince was, and

0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.960
<v Speaker 1>uh there's John and he's you said stuff about me

0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.879
<v Speaker 1>on the internet. And I was like, I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I just all could do is throw the hands and

0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:05.440
<v Speaker 1>go dude whatever. You know. So they take me downstairs

0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and I get stitched up, and they have Heavener find

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 1>me and he doubles my pay for the night, and well, yeah,

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh here okay, kills me off a couple

0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And then on the ride home I later found out

0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.000
<v Speaker 1>because we're all riding home together, Uh my own on

0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Finnegan said they were going to take me straight to

0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Well they were, yeah they were. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, we stopped off at like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a Roy Rogers or was it Wendy's. Yeah,

0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there's just like this little truck stop. Yeah, we said

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little sign, little thing, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>holding ice on your face. We're like, can we have

0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:50.320
<v Speaker 1>bags of ice please? Because you were so swollen your face.

0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>You look like you had gotten bit by like forty

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:57.520
<v Speaker 1>two beas. That's what it reminded me of you. You're

0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.520
<v Speaker 1>honestly your eyes were swoll your face as well. My

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 1>heart was broken, and I just remember sitting next to

0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you and I'm holding I was holding the ice on

0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>your face, and you just had your head down the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, and I was just like, oh my god, like,

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>this is this is beyond a shoot Like I've never

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.879
<v Speaker 1>seen anybody like. I don't mean to keep emphasizing it,

0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>but I have never seen anybody shoot on somebody like that.

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You didn't even you didn't even cause a stink about it.

0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You just took it like a man and just was like,

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 1>well whatever. And I mean they I don't consider it

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>stooging what you did, because they asked you what happened.

0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You were telling the truth, you know, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you was this. I'm a better gigger than that,

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. Just yeah, you were. He was a mess. Guys.

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching it live because you're watching it and

0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait, what what's going on over there? Because

0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you see JBL's wild arm just like kind of fly

0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. I remember watching a lot of being like,

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, that's crazy. He's doing this and I'm throwing

0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my rights, you know. And if you watch the SmackDown,

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.159
<v Speaker 1>because they did a SmackDown, like in the next day

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>or two, he's got like makeup under he got hey,

0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I a little rabbit and a little mouse bruise under

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.800
<v Speaker 1>his eye, little mouse bruise while me and he's walking

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 1>dead over here. Yeah, it was terrible. I looked like

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a garbage pail kid. Uh good, there's no fishbones around

0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>your trash cans. But you you weren't really really bad shape.

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.160
<v Speaker 1>My I mean, I felt so bad for you that night,

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and all I can do. I kept saying, are you okay?

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Are you okay? And I remember just holding ice on

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 1>your face in the van. Yeah, and much of that

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.560
<v Speaker 1>ride home, Yeah, you were very somber. I will tell you.

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>You had your head down and we were just like,

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 1>do you do you want to go anywhere? Do you

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 1>need anything? But I just remember I told the lady

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at Wendy's, I need a big bag of ice, and

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>they gave us. They gave us ice because he was

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 1>He's a mess. And I have never seen anything like

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that in my life. The funny thing is we're walking

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:16.239
<v Speaker 1>back to the van from Manhattan Center and uh, I

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.239
<v Speaker 1>see Paul and I apologize. I'm sorry. Oh, He's like,

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about. He's like he's like, he

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.280
<v Speaker 1>took his best shot and he couldn't knock you out,

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>So what are you apologizing for? There you go. I

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.919
<v Speaker 1>was like, sorry, I ruined your Black Panther party. And

0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, apologize and for something it wasn't

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to apologize. But that's your nature, that's

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the way you are, your your I know, I do

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.639
<v Speaker 1>it too. I do it too. And I remember apologizing

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the events and he goes stop saying sorry, and I go, okay,

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>so sorry, and he's like sorry I was. I was like,

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like you said somber and I got home. I went

0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to bed. I woke up, and I didn't really get

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>fired up until the next day. And I walked downstairs

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and my mom saw my face and the way she reacted.

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>My mom reacted sent me the fuck off. Sure, sure,

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I can we swear? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you could swear so And that's when I just started

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>writing blogs about it, and I posted the photo. I

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 1>sent the photo to you know. I posted a photo

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 1>on my blue Meeni dot com when I owned that

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, and everybody picked up on it,

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and then I started writing blogs about it and how

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I was angry about it and yeah, yeah, and then

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months later, uh, Dreamer. Well, in the meantime,

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like when we had gone to One Night's Stand that day,

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Nova I said he was pitching like a mini BW

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.959
<v Speaker 1>O reunion WW because Stevie was going from Velocity to SmackDown.

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>SmackDown's Blue and White colors. B w's the blue white colors.

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So a couple months after the maybe a month or

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>two after One night stand, Uh, Tommy Dreamer calls. He goes, Meanie, Uh,

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>we want to bring you out to uh Sacramento. This

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with jbl blah blah blah. I'm

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like thinking that it's Nova doing the BW thing. I

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>get there, get to the building and Johnny As goes, yeah,

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>you're working john jbl tonight went great. You lied to me.

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>First of all, anybody who ever comes on this show

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and has a Dreamer story always does this voice inevitable. Yeah,

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>but why would Tommy? Why would why did Tommy do that?

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you call him on it? Well? No, no,

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I disfigured. They told him to tell me something and

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>then they you know, plants. He's like, yeah, you're working,

0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 1>uh jbl h, you're hitting the moon salt. When then

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>one two three, I was like, does John know this? Yeah?

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh yeah, he loves what's great, blah blah blah.

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm standing there and I'm just like, this feels

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>like a setup, you know, I'm I'm just standing there

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like and to his credit, Triple h comes over to me.

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>He goes, meanie, you look worried. I was like, well, yeah,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>this is what's going on. And he goes, wait one minute,

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>he walks away, comes back, just come with me, and

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 1>he takes me into Vince's office and then you know,

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:41.479
<v Speaker 1>I walk in and Vince is having a steak and

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>he's watching like the sizzle reel for Hogan those Best

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 1>which is like showhat an air yet, but he's watching

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 1>like dailies or whatever and stuff. Ah meanie, go sit

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>on the couch, you know. So I go sit in

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>this couch and like it's this is in Sacramento, July four,

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, sitting on his couch and then uh,

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Ace Triple h Fence come in and we have

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a heart to heart talk. I was like, hey man,

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>this is what happened. Blah blah blah, this is how

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel. It feels kind of like the inside. He's like, well,

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I assure you mean me that if John does the

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>same thing again, he will be fired. All right, Oh

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, and don't have a roll quarters by

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the way. Yeah, uh uh. I'm standing there. And then

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>John comes in and I just you know, you feel

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>attention and it's kind of like his his cowboy has

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like the dorsal fin and jaws, you know. And I'm

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>standing there. I'm just bracing because I still don't feel

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>comfortable and you haven't. There's no there's no interactions from

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 1>one night stand to this night between you two now

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>other than yelling at each other in gorilla position. That's it, okay.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And so eventually a little bit he comes up, I

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>feel tap of my should. He goes you want to

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>go talk and it's John. I'm like, all right, so,

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>uh you know you've been to TVs. There's signs everywhere seamstress,

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Vince's office, uh, Richie from Magic Catering, this, that and

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. As We're walking further and further down

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the hall. I'm seeing less and less signs. I'm like, man,

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>if we go to a room, and if we go

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>into a room and there's plastic on the floor, I'm

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>fucking running And I'm I don't want to be like

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Joe Petchy and Goodfellas, you know when he thinks he's

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>about to be made and takes one back of the

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>head Jesus. So we go in a room. John shuts

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the door, locks it. I'm like, huhhh he locks it. Well,

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you I don't know. Maybe I'm being because

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>we could talk where we'll fight. I was like, God, damn, John, Uh,

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to fight. Yeah, I never wanted to fight.

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>You guys, Like, as a matter of fact, I was

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>one of your biggest fans before coming to here in

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>ninety because I legit loved his work. Yeah, remind me

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of Stan Hans and all this stuff. And uh, I said, hey, man,

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>this is what happened. You know when I was here,

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I listed everything boom boom boom boom boom boom, boom

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>boom boom. He's like, well, you know, uh, yes, I

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 1>don't remember that. Blah blah, blah. He's like, look, let's

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.959
<v Speaker 1>go out there, you know, and he apologized most importantly apologized,

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, let's go out there and make some money.

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Is it all right? And uh? You know, you know,

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>time flies by, and uh, I'm on Twitter and all

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, somebody goes am mine to see him?

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Or is jbl final following the Blue MENI on Twitter

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, I love me and he so, uh

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>and there you go. Well yeah, but yeah, since then,

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, John's apologized. Yeah, he almost got into the

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Royal Rumble in Philly. I had just done you see,

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll be on release Fine three for WW with Steve

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Richards and Joey South. I was like, He's like, what

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>better way to promote the DVD than the have you

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>come out in Philly and say the host of BLA,

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't care bushwhacker me, I'll walk in shit came

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>in out the other side and I'll be good. Yeah,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>he almost got me in and it's down to me

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and Bubba, and they chose Bubba, which is cool, you know,

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>but he made the effort and he's done a lot

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of other cool things for me to help me. So

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the sad thing is people when it comes

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to something, you know, something like that, it was an

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>ugly incident, and people remember the initial headline. They never

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they never read the fine print or the retraction. When

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, people will you know, make amends and stuff

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. So me and him have been like for

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the last since two thousand and five, been like, no,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>we're good now, right right. I was just on his

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>podcast and people are still going, what about that JBL thing?

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I just sent him the link. Well, that's why I

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to talk about it again, because you know,

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>my listeners mightn't know the story, and because I had you.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to me. One of the things I remember

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>going around when you went back and worked for WWE,

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>people were saying they, now, this is just speculation and

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's any truth to it. One

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of the rumors going around was that they had you

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>back there so you wouldn't sue them. Yeah, that was

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>never talking. Well, here's the thing. After the one I

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>stand thing happened, I went through like behind the scenes,

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>real life shit where I had people coming at me

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>from all sides. I had people going, man, you should

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>really sue to the people going what are you a pussy?

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You know? And I all I did was to say

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I is wrong. You know, There's some well known people saying, yeah,

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>you could probably sue, and then people from other companies

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>reaching out to me saying, ah, you should sue. I'm like, yeah,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you want me to sue, don't you. But then you know,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, have you ever worked stiff? And

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, block, that was work. I was like, it

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a work, but like I went through a lot

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of shit personally, people who thought I was being a

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>baby about something being wrong, and then the other people

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>who wanted me to sue. But you know, you know,

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>if we're going to you know, be real about it

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, you know, looking at through my I'll say

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>my age, my forty nine year old eyes, there's your age. Yeah,

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>there's my age. I could block it if you want

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to believe it. So just through my forty nine year

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>old eyes. The whole one night Stanping might have been

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the best thing that happened to me in a way

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>because because uh, I got you know, released from WWE.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Around that time, a grandma had passed away. We were

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>at Hammerstein for one of those double shots my grandma

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>passed away, and then I was in a relationship and

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that kind of went awry, right right right. I don't

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>say the name because she might pop up like Beetlejuice,

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>but just no, no, no, I was in a bad relationship.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>That relationship spawned a wrestling company that actually enjoyed but

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't enjoy this stress of it. But it ended very badly.

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>So in the course of you know, a couple of

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>months that ended badly. The wrestling promotion ended badly, uh,

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you know, a couple other things

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>happened with people I don't want to put over. I

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>was in a really dark spot. I was in a

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>real bad way and maybe had like twenty dollars to

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.959
<v Speaker 1>my name, and I just like looking for, you know,

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a solution. And then I was relieved, you know, I

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>got invited to the ECW reunion shows, and like during

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the course of that time, I kind of stopped being

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the blue meanie. I was the blue meaning by name,

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but like I changed my look. I was doing different

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>things and going back to you know, doing one I

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>stand and actually putting back on the blue hair and

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the original makeup and the hair shirt and the daisy

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Dukes can get back out on TV. And you know,

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>what happened when I stand was bad, but I kind

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of found out like who my friends were. I kind

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of you know, you know, figured out who my true

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>friends were. And it got me back out there to realize,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fans still care. I had lost all confidence,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I had lost all every sense of worth because of

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I was just taking live rounds between Grandma's death, bad relationship, promotion,

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>drama with that, losing friends, all this shit was happening

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>within that course of the years. I called my dark

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>ears and then boom one night saying happens, it sucks.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>But somehow it got me back on my footing and

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I got back being me, and you know, yeah I did.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>They didn't bring me back because and that's why I

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>brought up the Nova thing. They were Initially there was

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>talks about bringing me back because Nova wanted to do

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>d BWO thing, But that just expedited it because after

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the JBL match on SmackDown, we had a little mini

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>feud with the Mexicools and stuff like that, and I

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>got to be on a Grand America Bash and you know,

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>do stuff, you know, and then then these you know,

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>came a calling and my life. I got my life

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>back on track because of an incident that was so bad,

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. And if you think about it too, it's

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>like if you would have sued, god knows how much

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>money you would have got, but it might have tarnished

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>your wrestling career. So if you still want to perform

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and be a wrestler, you might have been blackballed, you know,

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>by certain people. Were the ones who think you're a

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>pussy or you couldn't take the beating or whatever. You know,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it might have if like, in my opinion, if you

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be in the business anymore, I would

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have said, yeah, go ahead and sue. You know, you

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>were trying to pursue another career, Yeah, go sue, trying

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to make a buck or two or whatever. But you

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>still had, you know, something inside you told you not

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and you bounced back and you were

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>able to start working again and getting on TV and

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>doing these bigger things. So you made the right decision. Yeah,

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and trust me, I had lawyers call me too, Yeah,

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you represent me pro bono. We heard, I mean there

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>were we heard. I heard all these different things, and

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just like I said, to myself, he's not

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna sue. I knew. I knew. I said, he's got

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>wrestling in his veins. I said, he's not going to

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>do it because it's gonna that's going to just slam

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a door for him. And you know, even though you

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>think you could get a million dollars, you're never going

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>to get that much money anyway, so you might as

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>well just out. You come out. I would probably have

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like fifty bucks. No, I think you would have got

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>more dollars. JBL has never like with me and I.

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I've I've probably had about ten interactions with them over

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>my whole wrestling career. But I can say in those

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>ten interactions, he's been such a gentleman and so nice

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and courteous to me. And you hear all these stories

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>about him and I and I know there's always two

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>sides to every story, but I'm just like, man, he's

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so nice, like you know, and then you have like

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>other people like Justin Roberts. I read his book and

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's terrible. You know, people do change. And it's

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>good that you were able to sit down and discuss

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>things with him and kind of smooth everything out. But

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what. It was awful. Yeah, it was

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>really awful. I'll never discount anybody else's experiences with John.

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>That's between him and those folks, right, But the John

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>that I eventually became friends with is way different than

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the John from ninety eighty two thousand. Okay, you know,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and now that was the wild West, you know, the

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Attitude era and uh, you know, people a little crazy

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>on the road and stuff like that. So I could

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.720
<v Speaker 1>have just been collateral damage and whatever he was going

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>through and that's none of my business. But you know,

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, it sucked. Yeah. Oh I had good time,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I had good times in ww during Attitude too.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But there's like that stuff. And what's your favorite time?

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite time? Yeah, we're discussing this this crap session,

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>let's still have a good moment. What was a favorite

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>moment that you dude? My favorite moment was WrestleMania fifteen

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in my hometown of Uh. That's awesome, dude. I was

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>born in Philly. Uh, May May nineteen seventy three at

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>two pm on a Friday. Look at that, because my

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>mom tells me, and we then we had Chinese food.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh so uh at my mom every time I do

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>my mom's voice. It's like Edith Bunk Bunker Brian. Uh,

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>can you go to McDonald to get me a black

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and white cheek? Yes? Ma? But uh, you know I

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>was born in South Philly. Uh you know. Uh. I

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>debuted for E c W Philly, debut for w W

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and Philly. I had my WrestleMania moment in Philly, and

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>most recently I debuted for ae W in Philly. So

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>crazy get to do things in this town you were

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>born in. Uh, I'm unapologized Homer when it comes to Philly.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, everything Philly. So that had to be the

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>cool thing. I love doing this stuff with gold Dust.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite, one of my best matches, my

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>favorite matches was me and gold Dust versus the Hardy's

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday Night Heat. We had a really good match

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to where you know, we get to the locker room

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and like people who I normally wouldn't think would put

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>over that match. You know, Jerry Brisco comes up to

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>me many great match, you know like that, and you know,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:31.720
<v Speaker 1>just to work with you know, guys like the Hardy's

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>work with Edge and Christian you know when they were

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>just coming up and I related a lot to Edge,

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Christian and the Hardy's. You know, we're around the same age,

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>like the same music. We're all listening like Pearl Jam

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm giving him my giving them my Pearl Jam

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>mixes on c when CD making CDs with a thing

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>back then. But I love being around those guys and

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>relatable and stuff like that. I had met Edge and

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Christian didn't want to like, uh, I'm still an e CW.

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>ME and Nova did the indie out in Detroit and

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Edge and Christian won that show and it was like

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>three shows. So uh, Nova decides to rib Edge and Christian.

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.959
<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, guys, I picked out your ring music

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for you. They're like, we're ready, so yeah he's. Edge

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>and Christian are getting ready to go to the ring

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, girls and cars start playing

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>playing and they the ring and they started. They both

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>had this really good Rick martel impersonation where you know,

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>they're doing the jumping up and down like Rick does

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. And then we uh had to

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>do a run in on their match and we run

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>in and this is around like Christmas time in Detroit

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's like a Santa Claus at the show and

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>then Me, Edge, Christian and Nova all turned heel on

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus and beat beat him up. This is the

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>second time you've turned heel on Santa Claus, by the way,

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>because the first time we talked about this over the weekend.

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>What's you and Stevie Times Square? Yeah, oh my god,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>which is one of my favorite promos ever when they

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>super kick sample and that was just a guy on

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the street. That's that's the beauty of E c W.

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>You do those wanting gum promos. We're filming and this

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>guy goes, I want to be on TV and we're like,

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>can you take a Stevie kick? And he's like looking

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>at what and we explained it and Stevie walking and

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the one the air was the second take we did it. Uh,

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>we have to do that again and the guy had

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to take it what you know, concrete, the nasty plunge.

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>He took the nexty plunge on concrete and got up

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, okay, thanks bye and we'll walking. You know,

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like hey day And I was like it's e

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 1>c W. Yeah, that's so great. I love that. That's

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorites, next to Premium where which you

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>co starred with me, and and uh people love that

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Many a man hated me for in that commercial.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Great funniest c CW story that you can think of

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>off the top of your head. Oh my god, one

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of them, one of them. It could be at the

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>travel Lodge. It doesn't have to be. Travel Lodge is

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>put over a lot on this show. But yeah, that

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>building we called, I call it the Cylinder of Sin,

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a spherical and it looks like it needs a condom

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>on it. Yes, I agree, but uh, probably one of

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 1>my favorite moments is you know we were I was

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>wrestling Jason Knight around the Loop and uh, you know

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>we would have you know, Jason was kind enough to

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>put me over excuse me, pin one two three, and

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I was doing the y m C A gimmick that

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I had we eventually did on Wressell Plues in ninety eight,

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>but before that, we're going around loop with Jason and

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.720
<v Speaker 1>having this quick little match pin them one two three,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>why m C I. And we come back through the

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>curtain and I want to say it was Allentown or uh,

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that place downtown Downingtown. Thank you. Come

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>through the curtain and Downingtown and there's Shane Douglas, Big

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Did Dougley and the rest of the locker room going

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>why yeah, because the music is still playing. Me. I

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>just see Big Nick Dougley doing the MC and then

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>doing at the e c W Arena. You see these

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>guys in like leather biker jackets going, oh why you know,

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>get the CWR crowd to do the y m c A.

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was a fun moment. You know, does

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a fun loop and time. You know, as far as

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>stories go that I could tell, Okay, yeah, well a

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of it's in the vault and we understand it.

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>How many times have you pooped your pants in the

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>rnk uh in my career? Three times? Why I'm not zero?

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:04.439
<v Speaker 1>Just to let and now rookie, I know, good work.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>It was like January third eight. Yeah, you know, would

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you believe I read? Okay, let me tell the story first.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I know this because uh me Nova and Randy samd

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>guy drove out to Detroit for these the sloop of

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>shows and uh they picked me up on New Year's Day,

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, the Mummers Parade, so it's com

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>forever to find my house. We drove halfway so it

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 1>might have been January second. So we do. We're doing

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a show in Inkster, Michigan at a community center. Is

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this for WWE? For ECW? Oh, it's for ECW okay.

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And the cool thing about doing this show is, you know,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I started my career out in Ohio and Michigan, so

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I had wrestled in this building as Brian Rollins, as

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Ebra Kid, and now I've come back as the Blue

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Meanie and all the fans to watch me on the

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Michigan indie scene are watching me at this show, which

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>is kind of cool. So I wrestling Jason again. You know,

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>two minutes into the match, you close, I take a

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>flat back and a hair you know, it's it's kind

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of like this, and uh, that's the second time you

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>heard that. I have a I have a Roadcaster Pro

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>which has a sound born on it. So yeah, we

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>have to get one of those breaking news you know

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 1>there because that again you popped, because that's one of

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>my text tones. It's like, what the hell, you're so filly?

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.240
<v Speaker 1>So you know, he closed lines me and in my pants,

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh no, but I know it wasn't mess.

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It was like more like a like a tater tot.

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But uh like, so we're wrestling and he, you know,

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 1>snap mares me over, puts me in the chin lock

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just wafting in it. And uh Bill Wilds

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>was managing me at the time. He was boogle boogoloo

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Bill Wilds. And the smell of this hits ring side

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and Bill doesn't know it's me. Okay, so he goes, oh,

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you people. He looks at the crack. You people stick

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.439
<v Speaker 1>to the other side of the ring. So the smell

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>hits the other side. He goes, oh, down bathe you know,

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>so we finished the match. I had to miss the

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>moon salt and all this. Oh you imagine in my days,

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>duke h. I go into the locker room and sam

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 1>An stooped me off. The word got back to the

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>locker room when that happened, and Stamon is like, yow pants,

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I don't even go in the locker room.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I go right for the showers. I keel off, you know,

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>blah blah boom. I got one. I got one shower.

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Hit me in the head, one shower you know, from

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, behind, like I'm hosing off like a circus

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>elephant in the said I didn't know that I felt it,

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, better be safe either way. Paul walks

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in in the rest locker room and they're just like

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>golf clap, Yeah, so clean up, and I go and

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>throw my underwear on the roof, you know, stat being

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a gentleman throwing the trash. So I was like, let

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>me get rid of the evidence. Threw it on the hook,

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>did the cream abdul Jabar skyhook under the roof. And

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I recently just went on Google Earth and looked up

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the building. I was waiting to see, like if there's

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.479
<v Speaker 1>a chalk outline around him, like maybe a bird took

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>them or something, and then the bird got disgusted and

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>he'd like spit them out here. Bathe. I can attest

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to how bad your gases because we've traveled together a lot.

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I've shared a locker room with you for years. The

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>funniest story I might read it before, but now that

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you're here, I have to say it again. We weren't.

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't e c W. I think it might have

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 1>been a loop for Shane Douglas that we were on

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:31.240
<v Speaker 1>right home coming. We were somewhere and we had gone

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>either to a restaurant, restop or to eat. And we

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>were coming back getting into a car, and next to

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.240
<v Speaker 1>our car was another car and there was a woman

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the car. Yes, well she was in there

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>and her window unfortunately was down. Menie stands in front

0:47:53.840 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of stands in front of her window. It passes as

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>right in this I thought. I thought it was one

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of those things. I thought, like some so I like

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to rib right. You know when I worked in the casinos,

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh in Atlantic City, you know, I was

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>working doing garage duty and somebody had their win it

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>down reaching and turned the volume knob up on the

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:21.359
<v Speaker 1>radio this, you know. But I was like, oh, look,

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>windows down. I didn't see the lady. He parted. It

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>was loud and just crude, and I went, what round?

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh ate my face, red face. She looked like she

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was gonna face just turned the milk white. She was like,

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>she gasped. I was like what. I get in the

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 1>car and go what are you doing? He's like, oh,

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know she was there. I said, you did

0:48:55.239 --> 0:49:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you do it? God? There's one time running in Dayton

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>for heat wave. I have a friend Jeremiah, and uh

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I stayed at his house. He lets right over in

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky and we go to uh I want to say

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>King's Dominion, and there's a top gun ride. I had

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the worst guess that day. And we're we're on stairs

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>going up this ride and we're just waiting our turn,

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and I just want hey, guys, guys, And there's a

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>family behind me. People are behind me. And I didn't

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 1>even look, but my friend Jeremiah to look on his

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>face watching them. He was he had tears coming down

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>his eyes like he was eating hot wings. It would

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>have been great if you know how they take pictures

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>on the rides, if you would have farted and the

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>flashmoan went off with the people are behind you disgusting. Yeah,

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the moment, the moment of impact. Yeah, I stopped the

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>concert with the fart once. I swear to God, remember

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>remember why I was, Remember why I was skinny? Mean

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>me for a second there, get down to like two forty.

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I was neither the could they. I was doing the

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 1>protein thing and we're we went to see a band

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>called the Atomic Punks at the Whiskey of Go Go

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood. Now the singer and the guitar player from

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the Atomic Punks went on to become Steel Panther Michael

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and Satchel whatever his name is now. They keep changing

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 1>their names. And I was just on a tear and uh,

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I was losing weight. But we're at the show and

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 1>there's a group of women behind me dancing and they

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>keep pumping into me. I'm just like, I'm like watching

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the band, and I'm like, you know, it's like I'm

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>being rear rent, like slowly rearended, you know. So I

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, and then like they're grabbing on my I'm

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>wearing a BW shirt like tank top, you know, a

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>muscle shirt without the muscles, and yeah, they're grabbing the

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>back of my shirt and like eating it. And I'm

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>just like, ew, I just snuzzled my butt cheeks on

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the one lady's thigh and just let it fucking rip.

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 1>It was warm too, It's like you could have opened

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>mail with it. Oh the glue. And all of a

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>sudden they went they were like behind me dancing. They

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>were dancing like this. I turned around. They're like, you know,

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>dancing like this, you know, with their shirts over their feet.

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Stop dancing made it put you over except for this

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, but and but like the main band hadn't

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>come on yet, So I'm just like, I let the

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 1>one go, and it's kind of like inviting vampires into

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>your house. There's it brings friends. So I was like,

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 1>oh no, there's more so like Avery. A couple of minutes,

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uh hum mm hmmm, like a trumpet with

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>his asshole. You got your own band, Dizzy Gillespie, uh

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 1>with the cheeks puffed out. And eventually somebody at the

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>bar at the back of the fucking whiskey goes, please

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 1>stop farting a one hundred yards away, you sir, stop dude.

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>It was nuclear. It was like I can't. Yeah, the

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.359
<v Speaker 1>band We Go to Sea comes on, and like I'm

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm clenched. I'm trying not to because I really

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 1>want to enjoy this band. Yeah, I'm a band handle Mark.

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So I was making this part up. They're playing the

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:54.320
<v Speaker 1>song you Really Got Me and uh, Ralph Michael Starr

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>aka Michael Stars walking towards me and I'm like, oh no,

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>so well that one go and it's like he's walking

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.879
<v Speaker 1>this this way and my heart's going up this way

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like that they two ships meeting at

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the night just and he he just went oh, the microphone.

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I showed a stop, stop, stop, he's fucking he's waving

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>his arm. He's just WHOA. The band stops playing, and

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, somebody in the crowd is shipp there.

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Every hand in the bar pointed to me, and I

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I was with, uh, who's the guy

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>who did the photos for e c W dot com? Uh?

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Quickly he was yeah, yeah. I messaged his brother, thinking

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it was him. I was like, remember that time I

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>stopped the band. He's like, no, that my brother Jim,

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And here's all over my face right now I'm crying.

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Jim quick testified on my behalf that yeah, I stopped

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the contract with a fart. I'll send you that's great

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>photographic proof. But yeah, well I I can attest because

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I've smelt it several times. Yeah, that's the only word

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I could use. My grandma would say, I think you

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>need a physic. No, well, if you're not going to

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom, yeah, if you're just gassy, but if you're

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 1>moving your boughs right yourly, no, no physics need it.

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 1>You just need some for breeze and uh air, Yeah,

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.359
<v Speaker 1>not to be such in a tight space, but yeah,

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know you know, who needs to talk about where

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you started and who trained you because we're talking about

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>shipping farts and and good stuff, and that's what this

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>knock down JVL like that with a fart in the

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>ring that night, and then that would have never happened.

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I I used to discuss Al Snow with my farts

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>because like he, we would be bad. I was training

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>with Al, and like you know, we'd be on the

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in the ring doing the thing. I would just let

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:20.760
<v Speaker 1>one go and I would do the rick Steiner around

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the ring, like run around the ring, just a fucking

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 1>vapor trail everybody, and everybody would just you know, eliminate

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>themselves out of the ring, just like, yeah, fart on

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>me too. Oh he had bad. He's bad. He's stunk too.

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And he would if you ever notice, like if he

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 1>would back me up in the corner and stand in

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 1>front of me in the corner, that's when he would fart.

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>He would do the Andre the Giant I suppose, but

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're on TV. I'm trying to be mean.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 1>And then I would go, did you just shake your

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>pants like you smell? Like it was disgusting. He wasn't

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:55.439
<v Speaker 1>as bad as uh, com Ole Brack or whatever. Oh

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember, Yeah, he used to drink the egg beaters

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room and just annihilation. And I haven't

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 1>heard that name in years. Brocus, brock Brocus. Yeah, No,

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.439
<v Speaker 1>it was the other dude. There was another big guy

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>we had. What was his name? I don't know that.

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was the name you just said, Broncus.

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>His real name was Brockets. I know who that is.

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>He was the dude that we w w was grooming

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and then right, yeah, yeah, and he wore the chains.

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Then he disappeared. Yeah, I don't think the wrestling business

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>before him. I don't think so either. But it was

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>for you, and I'm glad you never left it, and

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>we're all better to have you still around. I appreciate it,

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:47.879
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so glad that you and I are still

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:52.359
<v Speaker 1>friends and kept in touch after all these years. For

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 1>those who don't know, where can we find Mimi? What

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of merch do you have? This is going to

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 1>take twenty minutes, everybody, But if you give us home

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 1>down on your socials and all that kind of stuff,

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>well I've gotten this pitch down to a t. If

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you well, first of all, I have my own podcast

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to mine In the Meanie Podcast, which drops every Monday

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>morning at six am, myself and Adam Bernard talk everything

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>from wrestling, movie, sports, and useless knowledge. If you would

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like to support the Blue Meani, go to or actually

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>go to Mineandemeni dot com or go to YouTube dot

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 1>com slash Mindeddemeani. If you would like to support the

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Blue Meanie, go to Pro Wrestling Teas dot com, slash

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Mineandemanie or slash Blue Meenie, where you can get some

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>very nifty Blue Meeni t shirts, including the BWO shirt,

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>which I still sell to this day. If you want

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to follow me on, I thank you. If you would

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>like to follow me on all my social media is

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 1>go to whatever that social media is, Slash Blue Meeni, Bwo, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and TikTok, which I kind of haven't figured out yet,

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 1>but you know that's for the kids, man. Yeah, it

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>is what it is. You know. I don't want to

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 1>do a video and then somebody's you know, does the

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:08.600
<v Speaker 1>reaction to it and the just videos. I bet you

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.919
<v Speaker 1>that would get over with the Yeah, you'd be over

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that if it works out. Are you anywork uh coming up?

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any gigs that we should know about. Uh,

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>May twenty eighth, I will be at fair Point Toys.

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>My good friend Justin Daniels and Penelope's White Penelope have

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a really cool collectible store in maze Landing, New Jersey

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>called far Point Toys. They're doing a little uh toy

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>fair and I'm gonna have my blue miniaction figures and ten.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So come on out and say hello. May twenty eight,

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>far Point Toys, Uh, Maze Landing, New Jersey. Right. Well,

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I must say this was very entertaining and therapeutic, therapeutic,

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 1>long overdue. Again, I hate to, uh, you know, dwindle

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>on the past, but I think a lot of and

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, there was a lot of

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 1>things you told us today that I didn't know. So

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. Yeah, I have closure now the whole situation.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. There's like certain things you know, your family,

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:18.360
<v Speaker 1>so whatever you say is you know, you can say

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. But like if somebody else came up,

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like a stranger who doesn't know me that well, came

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 1>up and the streams said something similar like yeah, mind

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 1>your business power, you know it's it's you know, we're family,

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so we could talk. Yeah, And I didn't say anything

0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>out of line. I just lot of a lot of

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of doors were still open that didn't have

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 1>any resolutions to them, so I needed to. Now we're

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>shutting the doors and everything's good. You heard it here.

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Stop asking me, because there's the story. Yea, it is there.

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 1>It is. But I love you, buddy, I love you too,

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and we'll have you on for part two because I

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's more fun that we need to get

0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>out of you so down the line, so much, so much.

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Tis is a good word. Hopefully you and I will

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>be together in another signing because this weekend was was

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:10.479
<v Speaker 1>a good time and I have a like a mini

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.160
<v Speaker 1>road trip. It was. It was. It was easy and

1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 1>fun and those are the best times. But we'll talk soon.

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Give missus meanie my love, and I will I'll be

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 1>in touch, absolutely all right, doll, Thank you so much,

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>take care, bye bye bye. How fun was that? That

1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>was so fun? That was so fun? That's great. Yes,

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's hilarious and a good friend of mine. So

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I hope you all enjoyed that because I did, because

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it was really funny. Yeah, I you know, I think

1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:48.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody always talks about b W E CW. But you

1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 1>know that time he was in WWF and ninety nine

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and threw into the early part of two thousand. I mean,

1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>he was in the Royal Rumble, he was at WrestleMania,

1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he was in a big portion of TV for for

1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time there, and I think people

1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>forget about that. So cool that he could dial that

1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:08.280
<v Speaker 1>back in the JBL story. He's great and his character

1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is so like one of a kind and unique. And

1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:15.800
<v Speaker 1>again I'm just I'm glad he didn't leave when things

1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:20.040
<v Speaker 1>were looking grim because he's done so much and accomplished

1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:24.439
<v Speaker 1>so much after that happened, So glad he was here.

1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And this will make a very fun YouTube clip in

1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the future. Absolutely, That's what I was already thinking about,

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:34.959
<v Speaker 1>like a funny graphic of gas clouds. Yeah, the whole

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>time he was talking, I'm like, this is going on YouTube,

1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this could hold. So that was people with a disgusted

1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:45.560
<v Speaker 1>face his right there, you know, right, But him and

1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I to backtrack, we did have a great time with

1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Nick over at Captain's Corner. We had a really nice

1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:54.560
<v Speaker 1>turnout at the store. Last minute changed less than twenty

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>four hours. We had to change venues, but people did

1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:02.680
<v Speaker 1>show up and it was a good time, and you know,

1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.919
<v Speaker 1>the virtuals were fun. And Nick takes care of us

1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:08.680
<v Speaker 1>greatly and said there was going to be a part

1:02:08.720 --> 1:02:11.040
<v Speaker 1>three for me and a part two for Mimi, So

1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:15.880
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to working with the Captain again. That indeed,

1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it was very entertaining, so much so that I thought

1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.240
<v Speaker 1>we should revisit it because I was entertained by it.

1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:23.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think for the people that either don't know

1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:26.520
<v Speaker 1>how to see it, don't know what goes on. And

1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:29.280
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about virtuals and stuff, Well, if you've never

1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.720
<v Speaker 1>seen one, I have the access to present to you

1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:36.240
<v Speaker 1>a recap, virtual recap, So it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the full time because you were on there for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I did two hours. Yeah, it's not gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. Words. I picked some highlights because you know,

1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's natural. You talk, you chit chat, you know,

1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you answer questions. It's very cool. So if you've never

1:02:49.240 --> 1:02:51.480
<v Speaker 1>seen one before, we're going to drop one of those

1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:53.760
<v Speaker 1>this week Patreon, this one with Nick from it. And

1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I did a lot of singing that my throat was

1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:59.760
<v Speaker 1>so sore when I came home because I was singing

1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:02.760
<v Speaker 1>because the deal was if you bought something, you got

1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to request a song, and I was. I was doing

1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:12.320
<v Speaker 1>TV show themes. That was the the topic for that evening.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a lot of a lot of fun.

1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I love we get the repertoire, you know, expanded. Look,

1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:21.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to keep these people engaged. No one wants

1:03:21.760 --> 1:03:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to just see you sit there and twiddle on your phone.

1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. I have to do things to make them

1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.640
<v Speaker 1>want to buy stuff. I've seen those. I've seen those

1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:31.640
<v Speaker 1>virtuals where the guys is just on their phone worrying.

1:03:32.200 --> 1:03:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I tried to Yeah, that one's to Bill. Okay, oh fine,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. And there was one point where I tried

1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to get up and dance, but the way the camera was,

1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it was all you saw were my breast and Nick goes,

1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you want to dance at this angle.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, okay. Then it was cool. It was a

1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:53.640
<v Speaker 1>different setup too, so it was it was pretty good. Good. Yeah,

1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.040
<v Speaker 1>it was fine. It was a lot of fun. Say

1:03:55.040 --> 1:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks again to Nick and I look forward to working

1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:00.320
<v Speaker 1>with him again. Finish Patreon, and then we need to

1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:04.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about Virginia. Yes, absolutely, I sent you the pictures

1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:07.440
<v Speaker 1>in your emails. Perfect, But we're gonna talk about it

1:04:07.480 --> 1:04:10.360
<v Speaker 1>on here as well. Yep, okay, So we're also we're

1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:13.240
<v Speaker 1>going to have on our great good friend get my

1:04:13.400 --> 1:04:16.120
<v Speaker 1>goes Mike Durband, who is a Patreon member who's going

1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to come and say hi, And maybe we can learn

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about Mike. You know, we when

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<v Speaker 1>we bring out a patren member, it's get to know them.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of know him, you know, he's our he's

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<v Speaker 1>our great good friend, like I said, and great good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that to get my goal line. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll learn a little bit more about the man behind

1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the mike, more about Mike. Yeah, we'll see what he's

1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:43.480
<v Speaker 1>gotten his time allotted. And then we're going to watch

1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Mikey whipwreck who was going through a crisis on screen,

1:04:49.160 --> 1:04:53.360
<v Speaker 1>taking on Tommy Dreamer, who is there to help set

1:04:53.560 --> 1:04:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Mikey straight. But the ending gets a little craik crazy.

1:04:56.880 --> 1:04:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember this at all. Yes, this is in

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<v Speaker 1>the early time. I'm of doctor James Father James Mitchell

1:05:04.280 --> 1:05:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and Mikey's pairing. So Mikey is in the transition of

1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:12.720
<v Speaker 1>lovable Mikey into that like eccentric Mikey and Dreamer is

1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:14.960
<v Speaker 1>there to shut them up, but you get involved at

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<v Speaker 1>the end and do I now, are you sure about that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You do? Oh, that's thought I did and I didn't

1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:23.080
<v Speaker 1>this one? You do? You do? I earned my money

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<v Speaker 1>this time? Okay, oh you yeah, you did well? That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds good. Yeah. I love the Patreon and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a member, I suggest you head on over to

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<v Speaker 1>uh www dot patreon dot com Forward slash Francine Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>things for you to scroll through and enjoy, and you

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<v Speaker 1>also get to DM with me. You also get a

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<v Speaker 1>discord at a certain tier, and we do our private

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<v Speaker 1>discord chats every week. If you want to join at

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<v Speaker 1>the one hundred dollars level, you get to co host

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I believe I'm the only one offering that

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<v Speaker 1>on in the podcasting world. I think you are. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I am. I'm surprised no one has done it

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<v Speaker 1>besides me. I'm a trendsetter. What can I say? You

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<v Speaker 1>definitely are. I don't see the mind of me, me

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. Yeah, I don't see that over there, He'll

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<v Speaker 1>steal it eventually. That's okay, sir, good sir, You and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be spending a weekend together coming up June

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and fifth, or third and four? What's the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and fifth? Okay, Saturday? All right? Oh look that's sexy picture.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first Squared Circle Collectibles all right? Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, me and me and the the franchise will

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<v Speaker 1>be appearing in Winchester, Virginia. I don't see a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know a time? Yes, it's two o'clock, two o'clock? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Two to what? Four? Five? Six? Five? Two to five?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So Square Circle Collectibles thirty three forty three

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<v Speaker 1>Valley Pike Sweet one hundred in Winchester, Virginia to six

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<v Speaker 1>zero two. Myself along with the franchise, we'll be offering

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<v Speaker 1>photo ops U thirty, thirty and fifty for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand that it is thirty for a photo, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>for an autograph or a combo for fifty dollars. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been to Virginia in a very long time

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<v Speaker 1>for anything. Yeah, so that'll be fun. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>next day, which is June fifth, a public signing ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen with the four time ECW World Heavyweight Champion

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Douglas again at the Sports sportsplexcuse me trade show

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<v Speaker 1>that is on two twenty one Commonwealth Court in Winchester,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia to two six ZHO two that is from ten

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<v Speaker 1>am to twelve pm. And I'm brought in by Ibexclusives

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com for this one. The guy there is a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine and you know, great good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be there, a great good friend. The Chachter will

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<v Speaker 1>be there too, and yeah, it'll be fine. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to this weekend. So just got the info. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put it on my Twitter. If you missed what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be posted. But a long time since I've been

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<v Speaker 1>to Virginia and I've never signed there with Shane, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Well, you guys were in Richmond that

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<v Speaker 1>when you did my show in Richmond a few years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well how many years ago was that? At eighteen?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was about three hours south of was I

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<v Speaker 1>with shame for that? Jane was also there. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were unofficially there together. Oh okay, all right, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we weren't in Winchester. We're in Winchester and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are taking over Winchester beautiful, beautiful area. So now

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<v Speaker 1>square circle Collectibles is a wrestling themed store in Winchester.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got guests there all the time, so you guys

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<v Speaker 1>will be signing their Saturday and then this show Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>is a sports card show, so it's your classic vendors

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<v Speaker 1>and different people. There's a former Redskin is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there. I'd just have the name in front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a an actor who worked on The Walking Dead

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<v Speaker 1>that's also going to be there that weekend, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be interesting Sunday, June fifth. Okay, is there

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<v Speaker 1>is there a website that people can go to well

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<v Speaker 1>for Squats Circle Collectibles. They can go to Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>they can search out Squirts Cerver Collectibles for I be exclusives.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is unofficially not on the website. This one

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<v Speaker 1>is just promoted in the inter group here. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see it on my Twitter, please share to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that you know that lives in the Virginia area

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<v Speaker 1>because Square Cirver Collectibles on Facebook. Okay, all right, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be there and yeah, it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>At this look at the shades. He's like, Hey, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on over here? He sees Yeah, i'd like that franchise. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks pretty good. I like that shirt. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to get out of here now because we

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<v Speaker 1>got some stuff waiting in the wings. Okay, fabulous. Where

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<v Speaker 1>can people find you? At chatty and be on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at IB Exclusives, on Instagram, ibexclusives dot com. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want a perfectly rated shirt, got a couple left, just

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to me and we'll get it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And come and say hi on June fifth and Winchester.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to be there, all right. Then across

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<v Speaker 1>the board on social media for myself, you can find

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<v Speaker 1>me at ECW Diva Francine And with that, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a wrap