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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast's freaking awesome, but welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Let's do another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan has and I am joined in

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Speaker 1: the room that's billed with heroes Connie Fox, Colleen Wolf

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Speaker 1: to others, Chris Westling and Greg Roseatal. What's up, people,

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Speaker 1: it's been a minute. It's been I know, great to

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Speaker 1: see you guys again, see your faces so great. You

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Speaker 1: were back east in Philly doing Philly eating cheese steaks

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Speaker 1: and ringing the Liberty bell things like that. Obviously ringing

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Speaker 1: Theliberty bell like had to do that, and west you

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Speaker 1: just got back from Tybee and we've already I feel

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Speaker 1: like the Tybee event has been very well covered. We've

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Speaker 1: been tracking it very closely. But now the man of

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Speaker 1: the island is back. So I was curious what your

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Speaker 1: overall takeaways were from the weekend. It was a fantastic,

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Speaker 1: magical weekend and Greg did a good job of describing

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Speaker 1: it as you almost feel like you're getting away with something.

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Speaker 1: The people who live on that island have basically said

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Speaker 1: to the rest of society, we're not following your conventions,

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Speaker 1: we're flouting them. Um, And it can be a little obnoxious.

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Speaker 1: There can be a little hedonism, but I think the

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Speaker 1: redeeming value is that each of these characters has become

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Speaker 1: so interesting and the way they live their lives that

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Speaker 1: it's really a performance art. That the purpose of art

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Speaker 1: is to create a pure moment, and I can count.

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Speaker 1: I would need two hands to count the pure moments

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Speaker 1: from the weekend that the like the Tourism Community Committee

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Speaker 1: for the island at this point, I love it. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what struck me as like the characters that West's friends

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Speaker 1: such unique characters and they could not it could not

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Speaker 1: be a bigger It's such a cross section of people

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Speaker 1: all bringing their own like flavor to the party. By

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Speaker 1: the way, that hucka poose hat is amazing. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a little exchange. I gave some Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: the hook. You know, there is whether it's Austin, Texas

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Speaker 1: on some level puts it in danger. We don't want

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Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, basic people rolling into Tybee, right.

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Speaker 1: We want to keep it weird. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: worry about that. The basic people go to Hilton Head, right,

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Speaker 1: and the people on Tybee drive out the basic people. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they don't make them. They do not feel comfortable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if Greg told you about his

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Speaker 1: gambling moment. No, definitely hides these things for us. One

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Speaker 1: of the best moments of the weekend was and this

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Speaker 1: is hard to explain how this happens, but I am

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Speaker 1: outside and it's it's dusk, it's dark. We're playing corn

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Speaker 1: hole for hours, and there is a section of the

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Speaker 1: party inside in the drinking garage, and my friend Denise

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Speaker 1: has created this dice game which she has called turn Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: the spot, but sounds like I didn't even know all

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Speaker 1: the whole garage just erupts. And if it was in

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Speaker 1: cartoon form, it would be like the roof comes off

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Speaker 1: just erupts in people like cheering and laughing, and and

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Speaker 1: it was Greg winning. I got a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of props from my dice swag. Just the attic

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Speaker 1: like like it was crazy how Denise made it feel like.

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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and it was just you were winning,

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Speaker 1: like sandwiches or food or what we like? What were

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Speaker 1: you about it? Greg winked as he said that by

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Speaker 1: just listening, it's the way Denise has as a performance artist.

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Speaker 1: She was like Freddie Mercury working the crowd at Live Aid.

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Speaker 1: She had she had the whole place in the palm

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Speaker 1: like the Denise biopic to come out. Um, all right,

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Speaker 1: so everyone's back together almost. Mark is in the wilderness,

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Speaker 1: but we got a nice show coming up today. A

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Speaker 1: lot of news to get to, including a very uh

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Speaker 1: So much to get too. So we're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: going on in the league. During What phase are we in?

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Speaker 1: Greg oft s three? Phase three? How many? I think four?

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Speaker 1: Phase four? I like? I like phase four the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just sounds really important that we're about to get

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Speaker 1: We're almost there. Yeah, let's enjoy it having stuff to

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Speaker 1: you need to know is forty four seconds of freedom

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Speaker 1: so much to get too, So let's do it starting

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Speaker 1: with the news. Loose cannon back behind the glass for

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Speaker 1: another day. How to go with shock? It was pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: cool guy, he's a big guy. Yeah, well we do

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Speaker 1: that's it's a good thing. They sent you there to

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Speaker 1: find it. Well, he comes off the elevator and he's like,

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Speaker 1: what we're doing when we're doing it? Well, what are

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Speaker 1: we doing right now? And I'm pretty yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: we're just going for those. I don't remember if we

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Speaker 1: Lakers and heat and Mavericks and Celtics, Celtics Matt and

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Speaker 1: of course magic great Shaquille O'Neil uh. And it sounds

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Speaker 1: like a one good people should check it out. Broadcast

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Speaker 1: the broadcast. It's up. It's a good time. Let's do

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Speaker 1: some news. What's your what's your name again? Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: do you do you color that here? Is that a

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Speaker 1: real haircut? It's real? Yes, that's sold. That was Canther's

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Speaker 1: owner David Tepper in his introductory press conference. So many

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Speaker 1: things I loved about that one. He didn't know who

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Speaker 1: Ian was, which is great, and then, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: he's putting a theory out there. That's not the first

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Speaker 1: time I heard that theory there atn media insider. Who's

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Speaker 1: I believed posed that question. I've floated it towards in

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Speaker 1: front of the entire you know, room full of reporters

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. I'm not saying like NFL Network, although

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Speaker 1: it's a very entertaining and informative channel, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that like you have to be watching it if you're

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Speaker 1: a football fan or executive. But do you want your

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Speaker 1: owner to be aware of Ian rapp report, who's on

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Speaker 1: NFL network as the main news insider. I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you want your own doesn't matter at all that he

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Speaker 1: don't think so he's rich, he owns a team. Now,

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Speaker 1: anything that's good it's like he said, he's gonna yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let the football people take care of that, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's been settled. The job guys with your jobs for

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Speaker 1: another day. The Alps will build the shoes. Well sleep, Uh,

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Speaker 1: The NFL will enact a national Anthem policy for that

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Speaker 1: requires players and league personnel on the sideline to stand,

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Speaker 1: room if they don't want to stand, Roger Goodell announced

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Under the change approved by team owners at

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Speaker 1: the Spring league meeting, individual clubs will have the power

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Speaker 1: being respected during any on field action. If a player

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Speaker 1: Rap Sheet and Judy Batista reported um this was all

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Speaker 1: this is a big story and now it's getting bigger again. Greg,

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Speaker 1: From our standpoint, this is a great opportunity to continue

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Speaker 1: that partnership with our players and keep the focus on

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Speaker 1: was actually a sign of respect to kneel or to

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Speaker 1: going to lead to change. And I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much this new thing helps that. It follows on somebody

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Speaker 1: a few players kneeling, and relatively it was not like

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Speaker 1: boning them basically by letting me I don't know, I

430
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Speaker 1: don't know. I used that right now. He is not

431
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Speaker 1: gonna Mack. The Eagles are boning Michael. They're screwing him over.

432
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Oh, I get it. It's late.

433
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: They couldn't get a trade done. Apparently the Falcons maybe

434
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: had some interest. Ian said Ian Rappaport, You're just not

435
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: gonna get uh the money. You wouldn't think huge money,

436
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: but a lot of teams. Does anybody get huge money

437
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: in late May? No, that's what I mean. You're not

438
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: going to get it, at least a ring. You never know.

439
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: There's some teams that are intriguing. The Steelers. Is Ryan

440
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: Shay the year's replacement? Makes sense? How about the Colts?

441
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: He can rejoin Frank Wright can give them a linebacker.

442
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: He got bone though I agree, I think you should

443
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: stand by. They got boned in a big way. Um,

444
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: alright and moving on. Uh. At the end of the

445
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: it is the end of the Christian Hackenburg era. So

446
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: you have to have a snap. Don't you have to

447
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: be active on game day once to have an era. Yes.

448
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: One of the most infamous draft picks of this decade

449
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: and one of the worst in Jets history. Christian Hackenburg

450
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: the fifty first overall pick in the two thousand and

451
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: sixteen draft. UH in the second round, and even though

452
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: the Jets were very bad team. In each of the

453
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: past two years, Hackenburg never got on the field, and

454
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Speaker 1: there's only I believe one other instance in the last

455
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Speaker 1: thirty years or so when that happened, when it wasn't

456
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Speaker 1: injury related. Uh, And it just wasn't happening. Hackenburg wasn't developing.

457
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: The team obviously fell out of favorite with the team

458
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: quit lee and even though it's the same coaching staff.

459
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: That's the other surprising thing about this. It would be

460
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: one thing if the first year he didn't progress well

461
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: and then everybody got fired and then a new regime

462
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: came in and like, oh, we don't like this guy.

463
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: But it was actually the same coach, the same gm. Uh.

464
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: But even through last year through five and eleven, including

465
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Speaker 1: after Josh McCown getting hurt in early December, where there

466
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: was no hope and Bryce Petty was terrible, Hacken we

467
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: extildency the field uh and he was a distant fourth

468
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: on the depth chart to start o t A s

469
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Speaker 1: This week, he made some I guess negative ish comments

470
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Speaker 1: about the Jets not helping him enough, and sure enough,

471
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: about an hour later, he was moved in a trade

472
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Speaker 1: to the Oakland Raiders for a conditional seventh round pick,

473
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Speaker 1: which is that's it. That's the lowest you can get

474
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Speaker 1: without being given away to another team. So Christians, I

475
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: want to find out what the conditions are too, because

476
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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna put a pen on your point.

477
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna be free unless he's right.

478
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: It's unless he's starting games over Derek Carter. He makes

479
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: the roster, I believe. Okay, so there is an answer.

480
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: But John Gruden there, you think he's gonna make that roster.

481
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean probably not. But and they have,

482
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: of course their car, they have EJ. Manuel, they have

483
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: Connor Cook there. So it's gonna be very hard for

484
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Speaker 1: Hackenburg to make the roster. Todd Bowls spoke about Hackenburg

485
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Speaker 1: and what was an obvious misfire by the Jets. Let's

486
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Speaker 1: hear what he had to say. Any time I pick

487
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, I guess you're gonna look at it

488
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: as a waste, and they want to pick does work out.

489
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: It's not a waste. You learn lessons from everything you're

490
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: doing life. It's not just football and draft picks. So

491
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Speaker 1: if anybody's got a four leaf clover up there, button

492
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: that's gonna work out every time. Please let me know

493
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: that person, because hey, it didn't work out here, because

494
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: you want to get the clover. Why is he developing

495
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: a personality? And let me let me know that person

496
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: because I gotta get gotta get a piece of that clover.

497
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: But Clover, can you think of a bigger indictment of

498
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback then he never threw a pass on

499
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Speaker 1: a team that started Bryce pet in seven different games

500
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: over two years. Yeah, it was a damning indictment. Yeah,

501
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I I the comment that he made was

502
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: was interesting about the Jets, just that he's kind of

503
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: overhauling his throwing motion now. And basically he was like, yeah,

504
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really you know, know what was going wrong

505
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: with it over the last two years. No one told me,

506
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: which I'm not gonna like take Christian Hackenburg side in this,

507
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: but it is worth noting. Like, you know, mcagnull was like,

508
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: there was all these stories. He was like driving too

509
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Penn State through a snowstorm three different times to watch

510
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: personally at Penn State, and he loved him. And I'm

511
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: not shocked if they didn't have like the greatest plan

512
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: for the how to develop young quarter. You gotta have

513
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: a plan. It's not really smart to be back in

514
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: the bus up over your coaching staff when you're on

515
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: the bubble of a roster. Though. I think he saw

516
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall. He was like, you didn't

517
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: even get any reps. Maybe it's not maybe he's just

518
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: not a good player. Yeah, And if I mean that's

519
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: it got him. It got him to Oakland. So actually

520
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: it was kind of a good move, like he didn't

521
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna waste the other couple of weeks and with the Jets,

522
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: it got him there. So Gruden might be literally Hackenberg's

523
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: biggest fan. What he wrote about him before the two

524
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen draft when he was working for ESPN, basically saying,

525
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: this guy should be a surefire first round pick if

526
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: you see what he did his freshman year at Penn State.

527
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: This guy could be the top overall pick. He thinks

528
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: the coaching fixes and then and as a Jets man,

529
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: there's no way to dress that up. They had. They

530
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,239
Speaker 1: blew it. It was embarrassing. It was the latest kind

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Speaker 1: of QB. It was the biggest QB debacle for them

532
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: since the butt fumble. You just hope that this is

533
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: like the last laugh on them, and now I want

534
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: I want him to have like lighted lighted up in

535
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: the preseason under John Gruden. And then Gruden makes these

536
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: kind of vague comments where it's like, wait, could he

537
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: possibly bench Derek Carr for Christian Hackenburg And that's a

538
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: whole story, and that would be that would actually work

539
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: out for a big mac because that would be like, yeah,

540
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: see there was something there. I we never gave him

541
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: a chance, but we have our guy anyway now and

542
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: now he's not bad. But that's probably not gonna happen alright.

543
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Another news, speaking a quarterbacks, speaking Eagles, Connie Fox loves

544
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: right up loving those Eagles. It all paid off in

545
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: a big way. I saw her sobbing on the field. Yeah,

546
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: that was embarrassed that, you know what. It was sweet

547
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: though it was real. I don't really like to show

548
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: that side of me. I was very vulnerable on the field.

549
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: You you are. I wouldn't call you a closed book,

550
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: but you do. You know, there's a bit of a wall.

551
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: A little bit got to break through that breakthrough the wall.

552
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: But when I came upon you, oh yeah you did. Anyway,

553
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that tone of Dan's voice there what

554
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: do you. I was agreeing with you anyway. Colleen is

555
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan. That's nice and uh, do you have

556
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: any comments calling? No, I just kept going back to

557
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: phone in a big spot. How can I work that in?

558
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: But I won't. I won't, all right anyway. Mike Silver

559
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: is a calumnist for NFL Media, and uh. He reported

560
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: on Tuesday that Nick Foles, of course the Super Bowl

561
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: m v P. Prior to the Browns acquiring Tyrod Taylor

562
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: for a third round pick from the Bills, the Browns

563
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: um wanted to trade for Folds, and they were willing

564
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: to give up a very early second round pick, a

565
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: really nice pick overall um and to get Nick Foles

566
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: and have the Super Bowl MVP on their team. But

567
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: according to Silver, nick Foles said, nah, I'm good. Yeah,

568
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: he's a god in Philly. Yeah, but he's not the

569
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. He wouldn't be the starting quarterback in Cleveland either. Well,

570
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: this is before the draft. You're probably right they were

571
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback at number one, probably right,

572
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: and he probably knew that, and yeah, that is a

573
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: good way to look at it. So he chose, I'll

574
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Speaker 1: stay the backup in Philly and maybe start the season.

575
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: If Carson Wentz has issues for being a bridge guy

576
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: or maybe not even that in Cleveland, I get that

577
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of a great scenario for him because he

578
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: gets to be hailed as this hero. In Philadelphia, he's

579
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and this is the guy who was

580
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: thinking about retiring. So I don't know if he really

581
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: like has big time aspirations now that he wants Super Bowl.

582
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: I feel like he can just kick his feet up.

583
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: And that's wow, that's quite a statement. You're saying that

584
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: he's lost the edge he did get to the top

585
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: of the mountain, or you're just smart, Like, what which

586
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: team would you rather be on? The Eagles or the Browns.

587
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's on the Eagles and he's right

588
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: nothing even against the Browns in particularly, this would almost

589
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: be true of any here in a minute, right, mediocre team,

590
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: he's in a great situation, and when he plays for

591
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles, he's got to be feeling like he's on

592
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: top of the world. And that's even if Carson Wentz

593
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: is hurt or not. Like, if he plays, he's going

594
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: to be playing in that Doug Peterson offense with those

595
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: weapons around him. So the team that tried to pay

596
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: more for Nick Foles than paid for Jimy Garoppolo also

597
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: tried to pay more for a j mccaren than the

598
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: forty Honors paid for Jimmy Garoppolo. I have no faith

599
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: in this franchise whatsoever. And I think what people underestimate

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Speaker 1: about having a franchise quarterback and getting to pay thirty

601
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: million dollars for a franchise quarterback. It's like a stupidity

602
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: um prevention or like a desperation governor. It keeps you

603
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: from doing stupid I'm the desperation. It's like the same

604
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: way Andrew Lucky used as a governor for his injuries.

605
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Like it, it prevents you from making stupid decisions like

606
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: overpaying trum for an average quarter And yet, and I

607
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: think Nick Foles is you know, ambivalence or you know,

608
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: displeasure about this idea can absolutely prevent the deal from happening.

609
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: So I've seen some people saying all the Eagles are

610
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: stupid not to do this, Like Nick Foles A probably

611
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: had a real saying it. If he says I don't

612
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: want to go to that team, I'm definitely not, like,

613
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's gonna make the Browns not want to

614
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: go after it, and on a second that, I don't

615
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are stupid for not doing it. I'd

616
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: rather have Nick Foles. I know. That's like then that

617
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: second round pick. I think it's the the most valuable

618
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: thing in the world is to have Carson Wentz and

619
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Speaker 1: then a Super Bowl m v P. At the money

620
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: that they have them at. It's so cheap, and you've

621
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Speaker 1: seen how great Nick Foles can be at its very

622
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: best in that system. That's an amazing luxury. There's a

623
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: team that can win the Super Bowl right now. Like,

624
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I'd rather just keep Nick Foles. You don't realize and

625
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: then the second round. You don't realize how valuable backup

626
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: quarterback is until you need him. What was the what

627
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: was the joke that we had down in the newsroom

628
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: about backup quarterbacks? Was there that bit you had the bit?

629
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Speaker 1: My my, you know, memory only last like six months.

630
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Speaker 1: You know that that's actually good if we judge by

631
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots two seventeen approach to backup quarterbacks, they are

632
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: really invaluable right up until the trade deadline. Then you

633
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: just give them away that like they're off the table.

634
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Oh year, you can't even trade for him if you

635
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: wanted to give three first round picks, but then at

636
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: the trade deadline they're eminently available. I forgot because it

637
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: wasn't my joke. It was it was a Charlie Castle

638
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: and it was It was something to the effect of,

639
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: all right, see, you know, the most important person in

640
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: your organization is your starting quarterback, and then the second

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Speaker 1: most important person in your organization is your backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and the third most important person in your organization is

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Speaker 1: your third string quarterback. And the seventh most person in

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Speaker 1: the organization is the guy who gets the balls for

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah. I was trying to set you up

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Speaker 1: for that. I'm glad it came because it's it's one

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Speaker 1: of your uh On, speaking of this story, I love

648
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Speaker 1: a good media slap fight. You ready for this? Did

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Speaker 1: you hear about this? Oh? Yeah, Mike Silver wrote NFL Networks,

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Speaker 1: NFL Media. Oh wait, I don't know about Yes, he

651
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Speaker 1: of course penned the piece that we were just talking

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Speaker 1: about about Nick Foles. He had the reporting. Uh, Mike Florio,

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Speaker 1: Greg you could choose to pipe in during this conversation

654
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Speaker 1: or a deference for the old ball. You could you

655
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Speaker 1: could sit it out your call. Mike Florio of Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk. Florio comes out and says on his p

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Speaker 1: f T handle, I'm sure that Hugh Jackson leaking that

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Speaker 1: the Browns tried to trade for Nick Foles will go

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Speaker 1: over well with his boss. Oh and then what is?

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Speaker 1: And then Silver replies, you don't like it. You don't

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Speaker 1: like it. Silver applies, hey, Mike, one, don't be it.

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Speaker 1: Two I had three sources, as cited in the story.

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Speaker 1: Hugh was not one of them. Three attempted attempted source

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Speaker 1: chest always troubles. Three attempted source outing is stupid. Four

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Speaker 1: if you have something to say to me, text me wow.

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Speaker 1: And then Mike Florio replies, hey, Mike, Silver one, you're

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Speaker 1: basically Hugh's agent Wolf to everyone knows it. And then

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Speaker 1: Silver comes back and Silver comes off the top rope.

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Speaker 1: I'm basically your daddy. Kiss the ring. The next time

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Speaker 1: you see me, I'll put you on my knee and

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Speaker 1: teach you about journalism. Night's son, kissy face. What absolutely

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Speaker 1: ridiculous he started it. I mean, it's true someone did

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Speaker 1: start that. I don't even know if Florio replied to that,

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Speaker 1: but that was yeah, Oh my god, that's amazing. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea we were for like a good Twitter

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Speaker 1: fight they've had. They've had some in the past. I

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Speaker 1: don't think any got to this level, but they remember

678
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: some when I worked. They've had some clashes. They both

679
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: aren't afraid, you know, to mix it up on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I will put you on my knee and teach you

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00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: about journalism. Um DJ moved the sticks, so I heard

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00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: his starting a podcast. He actually tweeted at me and wrote,

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00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: guess we need to step up our beef. We're very

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Speaker 1: much on the undercard at the moment, which is very fair.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Oh, it's trop alert time. Triplet triplet triolet.

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Speaker 1: Norv Turner. We all love North turn North Turner, what

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Speaker 1: a guy the offensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers. Uh

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Speaker 1: is invoking the name of two of the most famous

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Speaker 1: pocket quarterbacks that starred under his thumb. It was Troy

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Speaker 1: Aikman and Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, and the Panthers spent

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Speaker 1: all of the last season building up Cam Newton, getting

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Speaker 1: him away from being a running a zone read running

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Speaker 1: guy being more of a Ben Roethlisberger type. And guess

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Speaker 1: what Norv saying? North saying? I see cam as a

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Speaker 1: guy that can get that can be in the mid

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Speaker 1: to high sixties and the completion percentage UH to ESPN

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Speaker 1: s David Newton and Chris Westling, this fired West out.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get under West's there's a story behind this.

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Speaker 1: It involves Prolina Carolina Panthers lover David Elie. Okay, let

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00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: me throw it to us and you take it from here.

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00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: First of all, explained why like Elie's involved, and then

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00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: tell us why this is such a trope. Eale found

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00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: this story and asked me if I want to write

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Speaker 1: about it. I said, I read through it, and I said,

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00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: I literally could not be less interested in this story

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00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: or what North Turner has to say about his delusions

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00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: of a guy who won an m v P award

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Speaker 1: when he threw less than six of his passes suddenly

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Speaker 1: becoming like a sixty passer. This guy's lower body and

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00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: upper body do not act in concert when he throws

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Speaker 1: the ball, so he's never going to be a sixty

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Speaker 1: seven six or or nerves dwarfs delusional or this is

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Speaker 1: just another one of those may stories that you just

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Speaker 1: ignore throughout the window. And Eally was so good to

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Speaker 1: meet during my cancer battle, so he gets to tell

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Speaker 1: me what to do. Now I ended up doing the

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00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: story like I feel bad, Like, um wow, interesting sounds

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00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: this sounds like my wife Emma got telling me that

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Speaker 1: I wear the pants in the relationship. I'm not buying this.

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Speaker 1: David Eally gets to tell West what now, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: stay away. It probably will wear off by the end

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Speaker 1: of the summer. I'm sure it has like some kind

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Speaker 1: of natural time limit on it where I just decide, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I did my penance. Ellly's not telling me to write it.

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00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: You know, my eighteenth Cam Newton story this month. It's

726
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: like in the office when uh Dwight lied to Michael

727
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Scott when he tried to get his job, and then

728
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Michael Scott had Dwight do his laundry for two years.

729
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't put you in the Dwight shrute category here,

730
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: but you're kind of saying I'm gonna do something for you,

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00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna you're gonna put it read. I wanna

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Speaker 1: go read this article now and gritted teeth that I

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Speaker 1: think Eli's doing it from a place of respect. He

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Speaker 1: really does find it interesting because he's such a big

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton fan. He's such a big Panthers fan. I

736
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Speaker 1: just don't find it interesting because I recognize a trope

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Speaker 1: when I see I were just well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: has a coach run in his mouth when I hear it. Well,

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00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: it's funny because I thought you were really zero in in,

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Speaker 1: specifically on the sixty completed completion percentage or six like

741
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: high sixties completion percentage trope, because that is what actually

742
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: every year, every year, every year there's a there's about

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Speaker 1: three new quarter three quarterbacks that have a new coach,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna be in the high sixties.

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00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: That's where we're. Out of those quarterbacks, what are you

746
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: even talking about? And out of all those quarterbacks, Cam

747
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Newton is the least consistently accurate if anyone who was

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: predicted to throw and not we believe that. I think

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00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: he could get him some easier throws though, And that's

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Speaker 1: what that's the question is Cam gonna take him find out.

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00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: But the question is, like Norv, al right, this might

752
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: still be this might be a trope, but Norv might

753
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Speaker 1: not be you know, blowing smoke up r asked. He

754
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: might actually believe he might believe it. That's what I'm

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00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't mean it's gonna work out that way,

756
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: but that's just the coach's nature. Any coaches ask him,

757
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Speaker 1: and I mean maybe a maybe get him to sixty

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00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: in like a dream scenario. Not high. Yeah, a lot.

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00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton is not inaccurate down the field.

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00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: I think mid like if you think fifteen yards and on,

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00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: he's better than your average quarterback. Problem is that's kind

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Speaker 1: of like his main thing. And so that's what they

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00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: build the whole offense around. And you're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: the higher completion percentage. It didn't we here last year.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do more play actually, and their game three

766
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Speaker 1: happens in like our offensive stuck. We need Cam to

767
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: move the sticks by running the ball again on third down.

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Speaker 1: More Richie Incognito news, the former Bills offensive lineman who

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Speaker 1: we talked about on Monday's show. He um was released

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Speaker 1: by the Bills and and intended to try to find

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Speaker 1: another job. We'll see what happens with that, because because

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Speaker 1: Incognito is being held for an involuntary psychiatric evaluation Wednesday

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Speaker 1: after an altercation at a Florida Jim Boca Raton police

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Speaker 1: said via ESPN boat Raton. Police spokesman Jessica to see

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Speaker 1: Her said officers received a call from a Patreon at

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Speaker 1: Lifetime Jim about a disturbance involving Incognito. He was not arrested,

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Speaker 1: but it was taken into custody under Florida's Baker Act,

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Speaker 1: which allows for involuntary psychiatric commitment for people seen as

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Speaker 1: a danger to themselves or others. Police offered no further

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00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: details on the incident thirty four years old Incognito. There

781
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: was also a TMZ report that was that said that

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00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: him and a buddy were drinking beers together decide he

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00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: decided Incognito that he needed to talk someone, get some help,

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Speaker 1: went to the center and then changed his mind and

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00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: was starting to cause a ruckus. And then at that

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Speaker 1: point they invoked I believe what's called the Baker Act

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Speaker 1: and made him stay there. So scary situation involving Richie Incognito.

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Speaker 1: I think he threw a dumbell at someone. It was

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Speaker 1: one of the things he was accused of doing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's not good. Talking about the government. Well,

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Speaker 1: it puts it puts into context. Dan, you asked, I

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Speaker 1: believe last show it must have been used since we

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00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: were the only people on the ship. Uh, you know,

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00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: why wouldn't maybe the bills just kind of let him

795
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: come back to that You're not not allow him to

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Speaker 1: be not release him from the reserve, retireless and kind

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00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: of make him play for them and just kind of

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00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: puts them into context, did you? Darlington? When he was

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00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: working for NFL dot Com NFL Network wrote an article

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00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: about incongnito a deep dive, and he said, psyched yet

801
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: psychiatric issues for a while. Life is hard. I can

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00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: understand how your world tips over and you can't hang on.

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: So I hope he gets to help he neats In

804
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: other news, but Ben Roethlisberger caught some heat, uh for

805
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: comments that he made about not wanting to help out

806
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and being upset with the Steelers for using

807
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: a third round pick on a quarterback. Ben, you you

808
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of an issue, right, laugh. I

809
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of that anyway. So he

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00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: walked back those comments at the start of O t

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Speaker 1: AS this Week on Tuesday, which, as Greg told everyone,

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Speaker 1: this is the phase three of O t A s.

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00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: This is the phase three of this story. Like you

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00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: could have seen every single phase. You could have said

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00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: exactly what was going to happen throughout this entire off

816
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: season with this, It's it's just get There is gonna

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00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: be a phase for Yeah, I enjoy anything Ben Roethlisberger

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00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: controversy related. Uh, there's gonna be a phase four. I

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00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: thought it lived, lived, it had a good life, enjoyed

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: middle age, and this was the last dying gas. Let's

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00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: let's see what Ben had to say about his comments

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00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: and his thoughts about his teammate Mason Rudolph. I think

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00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: people took some things that I said into a context

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00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: that I was going to be mean or rude or whatever,

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00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: and that was not it at all. If you listen

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00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: to the whole conversation of you said just in laughing

827
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: and having fun. So I've never been the type to

828
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: just um the rude or mean to other quarterbacks. So

829
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: you can ask you know, Jones, and I've had a

830
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks through here. They've been younger than me

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00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: that I've tried to help anyway that I can, so um,

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00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'll continue to do that. Ben, were you

833
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: being serious when you told them Base four is like

834
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: really going out of your way on the media attended

835
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: practices to do like helpful things that the media season.

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Speaker 1: Then they're talking and man, maybe phase five might be,

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00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: might be there's an you know, you know, they're gonna

838
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: get together and throw you know, passes with the receivers

839
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, before training camp, you know, off campus and stuff,

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00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: and he's gonna invite Mason Rudolph kind of as a

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00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: good will. Don't forget about phase six where during a

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00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: media availability portion of practice, he'll be seen carrying the

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00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: helmet and the shoulder pads of Mason uh in a

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00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: gesture of solidarity but also a little wink and a

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00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: nephew to the media. Right. I like that. I mean

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00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: it's chivalrous too. We as the media have extracted every

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00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: bit of news out of the story possible. The husk

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00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: is dry. Phase seven is actually Mason Rudolph doesn't knocked

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00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: that out, breaks his jaw in two places, and then

850
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: becomes the greatest quarterback of all time. So stay tuned.

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00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: That's that's what that's what's happening in the news alright.

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00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: So I think I think, especially with the lead news

853
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: item today we had about the national anthem and uh,

854
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: the idea of what what it is is to be

855
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: an American freedom of expression? What's freedom of expression done? Right? What?

856
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: What can no one deny? And you could say what

857
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: you want in this country? Well, you can't. You can't

858
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: scream fire in a crowded movie theater, so you can't

859
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: do that, and you can't make you can't do bomb

860
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 1: bits in an airport that's out now. And you can't

861
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: threaten the life of a public servant, whether it be

862
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: the president or anyone else. So there are there are

863
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: some things you can't do and and but other than that,

864
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: you could pretty much say whatever you want. And Greg,

865
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: that's what makes this country great, isn't it. It is

866
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: all right? Good, that's good. I thought you were looking

867
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: for the Ben Roethlisberger laught. Then then that's what's great

868
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: about America, right, Okay, I just see he's passive aggressive today.

869
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: Um so what we're gonna do is uh And you

870
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: could thank Greg for choosing how much time we had.

871
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: He Gregg decided forty four seconds was just enough freedom

872
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: for each of us today. So well I came up, Yeah,

873
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: I came up with the idea yet and I think

874
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: forty eight seconds. But then I didn't you know, we

875
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: have the forty eight minutes of the a f C

876
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: that time. Don't want to box yourself and I want

877
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: to be predicted. So this is your idea, Greg Okay,

878
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: making sure everybody knows. Humble explanation. No. So, although forty

879
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: eight seconds would have been different than forty eight, but

880
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna do forty four seconds, which is totally outside

881
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: the box, and no other podcast is doing this. We'll

882
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: just show me one other podcast that dedicades forty four

883
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: seconds to each member of the show to express themselves freely.

884
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: In fact, when I heard about this, I thought I

885
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: missed something and that the forty four had represented something

886
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: in the news or something that happened. So then I

887
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: spent about ten minutes looking around because I didn't want

888
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: to let you guys know that I didn't know what

889
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: was going on. Big waste of time. The right amount

890
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: of time was maybe an Obama ref he was president.

891
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: He was a great man, Eric Number, I believe the

892
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: National hitting Streak record is forty four games, Pete, not

893
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: as good as fifty six the ALE streak, and the

894
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: ALE better than the n L. As we talked about Twitter, Yeah,

895
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: it was a little Johnny come lately to the party.

896
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Of course, being there first and establishing himself. Is this

897
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: going to be here? We're saying, cricket playing cricket? L

898
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Colleen, you're gonna get us going.

899
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: And what we're gonna do, Erica loose counter behind the glass.

900
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna time this. It's very important to hit this

901
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: second because that's what it's all about as soon as

902
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: it and you don't have to worry about timing or

903
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: you could to know where you are, but you cut

904
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: the mics, just cut it out. There's no let me

905
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: get a couple of extra seconds in. Alright, I'm ready,

906
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: all right here and you can start and we can

907
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: just say anything we want, talk about anything other than

908
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: other than the guidelines that you already put out. Fire

909
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: in a theater, right, not in a theater, bomb stuff

910
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: at the airport, in an airport, public servant like okay, okay,

911
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: when the music starts, you start, okay go Killing Eve

912
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: right now is probably the best, No, not probably. It's

913
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: the best show on TV. And if you're not watching it,

914
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: you're missing out. Sandro and Jody Comber, they are the

915
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: two leads and they're awesome. It's about an m I

916
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: five agent trying to hunt down an assassin and she's psychotic.

917
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Also, I'll Be Gone in the Dark is

918
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: my new favorite book, another sort of thing about a

919
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: psychopath sociopath. So what does that say about me? I

920
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Shout out to super Cuts and Janine for

921
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: fixing John's hair today. It looks really really good. Also,

922
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: everybody follow the broadcast. I r L on Instagram and Twitter,

923
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: and I've been grilling a lot lately. This is my

924
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: odds and ends because I really did not. I just

925
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: put some bullet points. I've been grilling a lot lately.

926
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: Tweet me and recipes if you are really into anything,

927
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get outside the box. Oh she's

928
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: cut honey box outside the box and I am. And

929
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: good job by all three of us, because I think

930
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: it's very important. Yes, you could react with a chuckle

931
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: or or any type of expression like that, but no

932
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: speaking by anyone else. You'd give that person their freedom

933
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: for those second. Colleen was creative. I didn't even didn't

934
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: even mind to talk about like a million different things. Yeah, bug,

935
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: it's not too late. You're gonna be the last in

936
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: the boomer uh and any thoughts. What was that I'll

937
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: Be Gone in the Dark. I'll Be Gone the Dark

938
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: by Michelle McNamara. I just watched a forty eight hours

939
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: about that yesterday, and the book apparently is incredible. I

940
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: can't watch I can't read it while John isn't home

941
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: like it's that. She famously she passed away last April,

942
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 1: and then Patton Oswald, her husband widow had these two

943
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: other dudes finished the book, and I was curious. It's

944
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: so well done. It's awesome. She's an amazing writer, or

945
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: was an amazing writer. Interested check it out? Alright, alright, West,

946
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: it is your time to shine. Before I started, also

947
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: echo Colleen's recommendation to follow the broadcast on all social media.

948
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks West. Nice you're grilling too, huh yeah, stuff, yeah, okay,

949
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: that's great. Good for you. Okay. This is a passage

950
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: from a book called Sapiens, A Brief History of I

951
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: want to make sure, well, let him do that set up. Okay,

952
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: all right, I just want to make sure you get

953
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: You don't need to set up. You deserve your own

954
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: forty four. It's a book passage. Everybody the European Empires

955
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: did so many different things on such a large scale

956
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: that you can find plenty of examples to support whatever

957
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: you want to say about them. You think that these

958
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: empires were evil monstrosity that spread death, oppression, and injustice

959
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: around the world, you could easily fill an encyclopedia with

960
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: their crimes. You want to argue that they in fact

961
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: improve the conditions of their subjects with new medicines, better

962
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: economic conditions, and greater security. You could fill another encyclopedia

963
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: with their achievements. Due to their close cooperation with science,

964
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: these empires wielded so much power and change the world

965
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: to such an extent that perhaps they cannot be simply

966
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: labeled as good or evil. They created the world as

967
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: we know it, including the ideologies we use in order

968
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: to judge them. Wow, sounds like a page turner. I

969
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: just found it relevant today. The book again was Sapiens

970
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: by You've all Noah Harari? Do you want to expound

971
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: upon that at all? I just found it relevant for today.

972
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Maybe shouldn't. I think listeners can draw their own connections.

973
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: Got you do you like that book? It's uh. I

974
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: was telling calling before the show that it's it's one

975
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: of the most eye opening books I've ever read and

976
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: definitely the most important book I've read in the past

977
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: decade or so. That's a lot because you're a big reader.

978
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Maybe our fourth of July week show should be the

979
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: return of the book Club. Yes, I'm still working all

980
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: that the first one, so you're gonna be in it, right.

981
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: You famous that you didn't want to be involved in

982
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: the book club and last time, well, I wouldn't go

983
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: that far. I was away. I have a couple of looks,

984
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: talk about actually I might not be here. Yeah, we

985
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: might have to All right, here we go. I have

986
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: a message for the person who continuously allows their dog

987
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: to defecate on my front lawn and chooses not to

988
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: clean up the droppings. I want you to know that

989
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: I am happy you are doing this. Why because I

990
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: know that I am going to catch you, and when

991
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: I do, I am going to take my time with you.

992
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: We are going to get to know each other very well.

993
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: I won't say we'll become best friends, but you will

994
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: remember my face in the same way I will be

995
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: etched into your mind forever. You want to turn my

996
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: lawn into your canines personal toilet. You want to be

997
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: the neighborhood bad boy, Well you should know that comes

998
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: with a price. The cost is everything you own and

999
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: everything you love and everything you are, plus interest until

1000
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: we meet. And oh yes, I was so strong. It

1001
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: was so strong. But for the listeners at home, there

1002
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: was one finale and I can't say it, and you

1003
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: didn't get it out. Can we say it for you?

1004
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: He said, And we will meet. But they're going to

1005
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: be a ball gag involved. I can't say anything else.

1006
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Freedom of expression. Again, even though this person is probably

1007
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: not a public servant, you can't just those yeah, those people.

1008
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: As a dog owner, I have bags on me at

1009
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: all times. I not that person. I get a lot

1010
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, we're we're in a highly trafficked area.

1011
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: And also I can see out into the front from

1012
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: my windows, so sometimes I see them. I make sure

1013
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: treat yourself with respect, get a bag and clean up

1014
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: at your dog. Come on, all right, Greg, close this out?

1015
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: All right? Well, like West doing a little lit shout out,

1016
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: r I p to Philip Roth last night passed away

1017
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: one of the legends. Like I wish I kind of

1018
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: lived in a time where an author could have as

1019
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: much impact in social currency and matter as much as

1020
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: Philip Roth did. I mean he even among American writers.

1021
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be the guy from the last

1022
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: fifty years, which is a pretty long time. Goodbye Columbus

1023
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: is amazing. The ghostwriter changed my life. Progorgy really all

1024
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: the Zuckerman bound books, and then he wrote a great,

1025
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: great book about his father called Patrimony. You know, they

1026
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: never gave him the Nobel Prize. Screw you Nobel Prize,

1027
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: because ultimately Philip Roth is gonna be remembered more as

1028
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: the guy who Oh what a cliffhanger. You have to

1029
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: wait next year, really do this again to find out

1030
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: what Philip ros is gonna be remembered. I actually I

1031
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: would like to help you the way Collie and helped me.

1032
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: But it actually I didn't hear it because the music

1033
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: was loud. It was ironic. What I could you want

1034
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: to help out? Greg? Yeah, well I think it was

1035
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: just one word that got cut off, right snubbed. There

1036
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: you go, like I was by this game. You set

1037
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: the time, Yeah, your frains. If you kept it forty

1038
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: eight seconds, you're golden. Yes, some people just hit their marks.

1039
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh's fired? All right? Good freedom guys, Yeah, great freedom,

1040
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: it's great. A little freedom in the backyard. This weekend,

1041
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: the old Juser is gonna have a little b BQ

1042
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: loose canny you want to come. Hell yeah, it's gonna

1043
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: be more than four seconds. Yeah, you know, I don't

1044
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: like having people over, you know that are outside my

1045
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: comfort zone. So I only I'm only having people over

1046
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna bring Blitz in and she is going

1047
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: to shoot all over your yard. That's fine to bring

1048
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: a bag, as we talked about just now, because you

1049
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: know what happens. You know the way I react when

1050
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: people disrespect my yard. My yard. I know, I gotta

1051
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: get my Super Bowl clothing out of storage, get my

1052
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: ear muffs and hat. And is the cootest place on earth?

1053
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: Does have a reputation that I can't control. It's like

1054
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: a polar vortext. I don't know how it's true. Um,

1055
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll be back on Friday. It is

1056
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: our final It is our final show of three weeks

1057
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: for a little bit until well about you know about

1058
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: six eight weeks where we do two shows a week

1059
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: and then um, then we'll be back full tilt, come

1060
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Speaker 1: training camp. But we're not going anywhere, right alright, good

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Speaker 1: little service, Just a little note for the audience. Great show,

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Speaker 1: good show, fun times. All right, let's go stand handsOn

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Speaker 1: signing off. Four Contie Fox, the Mailman, the Old Boss,

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Speaker 1: the Loose Cannon, the whole gang. Tell Friday