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Speaker 1: days when you come on the air and I've been

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Speaker 1: need a ten hour show today. Let me start with this.

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Speaker 1: James Comey, who adicted this on day one, ten million

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Speaker 1: What a shocker. I'm not shocked at all. And by

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Speaker 1: After you go judge shopping, there's nothing this president is

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Speaker 1: top of that the double standard as it relates to

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Speaker 1: But on top of all of that, Speaker Gingridge said

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Speaker 1: me read it to you, the Federal Records Act, Records

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Speaker 1: Management regulations at the d o J and the FBI

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Speaker 1: state that anything done in the course in scope of

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Speaker 1: government employment is the property of the government, not the employee.

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Speaker 1: Other words, when you come out of Trump Tower and

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Speaker 1: a government car and a government computer and you put

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Speaker 1: your notes while you're being paid, that's the property of

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Speaker 1: the government, not the New York Times, which apparently leaked

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Speaker 1: while he was the before the tweet by Trump, and

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Speaker 1: the memo was not call me's to keep personally, not

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Speaker 1: callmey's to give to the New York Times. And it's

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Speaker 1: a crime, pay close attention, call me crime for any

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Speaker 1: employee like call me to convert government property. The memo

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Speaker 1: typed out in the government car on the room in

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Speaker 1: computer on government time. It is a crime to use

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Speaker 1: for his own for his own personal use, because eighteen

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Speaker 1: US Code six forty one makes it a felony to steal,

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Speaker 1: to sell, to convey. I would say leaking to the

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Speaker 1: New York Times fits under the convey category to someone

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Speaker 1: outside the government. That's precisely what Comy did by giving

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Speaker 1: it to his friend to give to the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: by his own acknowledgement, wanted to leak, so we'd get

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Speaker 1: a special counsel. On top of that, he's got a

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Speaker 1: non disclosure contract and he promises he will not disclose

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Speaker 1: the very kind of information he leaked, and he did

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Speaker 1: so well that would subject him to criminal sanctions and

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Speaker 1: a lawsuit for money damages. It doesn't matter if he's

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Speaker 1: no longer with the FBI. It's binding and it's an

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Speaker 1: enforceable contract. As my friend Greg Jared pointed out in

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Speaker 1: his piece today, one of two pieces he has out

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Now he's also conflicted and in terms of

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Speaker 1: his relationship with Mueller. Now the law governing special counsel,

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Speaker 1: by the way, CFR six zero zero point seven, several

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Speaker 1: other statutes, regulations prohibit him from serving, meaning Mueller if

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Speaker 1: he has a conflict of interest, Well, it's a conflict

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Speaker 1: if he has a close relationship with a witness. Comey

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Speaker 1: is now a witness. The two men are bff, and

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Speaker 1: according to agents, they were joined at the hip at

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and FBI and handling several cases together.

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Speaker 1: Apparently that a mentor protege relationship, as Greg Jarrett says.

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Speaker 1: And if the obstruction probe becomes a contest between the

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Speaker 1: credibility of Colly versus Trump, Oh, what do you think

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Speaker 1: Mueller is gonna believe? It's not gonna be Trump. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna believe his protege, his bff, his drinking buddy. I

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Speaker 1: don't know whatever, buddy, even the appearance of a conflict

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Speaker 1: is sufficient under the law for recusal. Mueller needs to

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Speaker 1: go for that reason alone. How can how can we

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Speaker 1: in the public be assured the investigation is going to

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Speaker 1: be fair and impartial. Look, this is not good because

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Speaker 1: Mueller's bringing in every killer shark attorney he can that

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Speaker 1: wants to justify their existence, and so they're tougher than

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Speaker 1: Patrick Fitzgerald. I'm telling you how it works. Investigative creep

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Speaker 1: now is going to become a word I'll be using

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Speaker 1: off and on the program. Get used to it. We

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Speaker 1: know there's no collusion, so what are they going to

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Speaker 1: be investigating? Anything and everything? But they should shut it

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Speaker 1: down now, just like Patrick Fitzgerald shouldn't shut it down

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Speaker 1: when he knew that Richard Armitage was the guy that

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Speaker 1: leaked the information. Now call me also as an issue

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Speaker 1: he may have lied under oath he answered on the

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Speaker 1: question of you know under oath that asked if he

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Speaker 1: received Jeff sessions recusal in a memo, call me answered

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Speaker 1: under oath no. Hours later, the DJ released that very

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Speaker 1: memo sent to Comey, and the d o J claims

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Speaker 1: it has evidence that he read it. Whoops, he said,

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Speaker 1: the perjury trap right there, exactly what Mueller is gonna

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Speaker 1: end up doing, because that's all they'll get out of

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Speaker 1: this because there is no collusion. We're starting out with

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Speaker 1: no collusion. And so Trump's alleged words they don't not

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Speaker 1: to constitute an obstruction of the raw law requires a

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Speaker 1: corrupt act. The statute specifically defines corrupt is one of

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Speaker 1: five acts. Threats. He was didn't threaten anybody, It didn't

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Speaker 1: bribe anybody. It didn't lie to destroy evidence, and he

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Speaker 1: didn't conceal or altered documents. By the way, all the

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Speaker 1: things Hillary did a great irony here, and the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is to find a corrupt act more narrowly as depraved,

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Speaker 1: wicked and evil. Compassion for Flynn is not depraved, wicked

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Speaker 1: and evil. And then I can add one other thing here,

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Speaker 1: back to Jared's new column, Are Mueller and come now

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Speaker 1: acting in concert as a special co counsel? I would

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Speaker 1: argue the answers, Yes, Now do you realize everything we're

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Speaker 1: going through here? And I know it gets complicated, as

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Speaker 1: I knew it would, but it's it's not that hard

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Speaker 1: to follow everything here. Nobody in the media is talking

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Speaker 1: about I don't even know people. I don't know anybody

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Speaker 1: that's talking about it. This is so deep, so profound,

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Speaker 1: and so screwed up that I really worry that this

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Speaker 1: effort to de legitimize prevent a president from fulfilling his

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Speaker 1: promises in a duly held election, undermining him every step

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Speaker 1: of the way. This is a clear and present danger

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Speaker 1: to our country. This is not a game. And nobody

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Speaker 1: in the media cares to talk. They're too busy with

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Speaker 1: their black helicopter theories. All right, j Seculo and Greg

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Speaker 1: Jared at the top of the hour, I'm gonna spend

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Speaker 1: the whole hour with them on the legal issues. I

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Speaker 1: just raced right, so that you will have an understanding

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Speaker 1: that I don't think anyone else will give you in

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Speaker 1: radio and TV lived in the great one will. That's

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Speaker 1: about it. So if the media is successful in stopping

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Speaker 1: the Trump agenda, which is the foundation for a lot

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Speaker 1: of this though, let's see, since the President's inauguration, the

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Speaker 1: job creation index has measured by Gallup, has been near

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Speaker 1: now at record highs oh and by the way, the

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Speaker 1: Senate parliamentary and is okay, the reconciliation vote Obamacare repealed

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Speaker 1: on the Senate now expected by the fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the Trump travel ban is already

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Speaker 1: working despite all their efforts to stop it in the

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Speaker 1: ninth Circuit. And by the way that the Washington Times

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Speaker 1: Trump is the last chance we got. They're successful in

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Speaker 1: stopping him, good luck to all of us. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be good at all. By the way, more coal

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Speaker 1: mining jobs than ever, oh, first time in years, Thank

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Speaker 1: god for them. They need will continue. He felt it

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Speaker 1: clearly that Lauretta Lynch was giving cover to the Clinton campaign?

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Speaker 1: Uh was she? I can't answer that. I would have

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Speaker 1: a queasy feeling too, though, to be candid with you, UM,

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Speaker 1: I think we need to know more about that, and

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Speaker 1: there's only one way to know about it, and that's

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Speaker 1: to have the Judiciary Committee take a look at that.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting queasy and I don't feel very strong, and ah,

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Speaker 1: it makes me nauseous. And I'm the FBI director. If

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Speaker 1: I've only been stronger, I could have stood up, walked

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Speaker 1: out on him. But it was a hard on me.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it any one show and if you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program in the extravaganza,

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00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: so many different issues now in play. Did James Comey

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Speaker 1: himself break the law? In other words, we went over

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Speaker 1: eighteen USC. Four and did he have an obligation if

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Speaker 1: he thought there was obstruction to report it to the

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Speaker 1: Justice Department, regardless if he thought weeks later that there

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Speaker 1: was a possibility to Jeff Sessions the Attorney General would

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Speaker 1: recuse himself. And then we bring in another law into

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Speaker 1: the mix, which is actually getting even more fascinating, and

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Speaker 1: that is his admission that he leaked to the to

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, and whether or not he broke

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Speaker 1: the law there and very specifically eighteen US Code sixty one,

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Speaker 1: that would make a felony to steal or sell or

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Speaker 1: convey any of these materials under the Federal Records Act

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Speaker 1: and Records Management regulations at the DOJ and FBI, anything

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Speaker 1: done in the course and scope government government employment. His

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Speaker 1: property of the government, not the employee. Wow. And that

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Speaker 1: of course his admission that yeah, he's best friends with

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Speaker 1: Robert Mueller, who is now the Special counsel, and apparently

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Speaker 1: Robert Mueller assisted and was helping James Comey prior to

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Speaker 1: his testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week. This

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Speaker 1: is getting way beyond control. And whether or not this

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Speaker 1: special counsel at this point in time, now that we

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Speaker 1: learned that there was no Trump Russia collusion, even Chris

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Speaker 1: Matthews believes it, if the whole thing should go away,

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Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of what happened Patrick Fitzgerald. And

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Speaker 1: he knew on day one who the leaker was, Richard Armitage,

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Speaker 1: and yet he continued and then they broadened the scope

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Speaker 1: of the investigation. It goes on for years and years

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Speaker 1: and years and and god forbid, if you don't remember

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Speaker 1: every single solitary detail, well, that's called the perjury trap.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna you're gonna be prosecuted for perjury like

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Speaker 1: Scooter Libby and lose your law license and have your

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Speaker 1: name and reputation, you know, smeared and besmirched forever. Ray Donovan,

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Speaker 1: where do I go to get my good name back?

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Speaker 1: Right here? To analyze all of this? Jay Secular, he's

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Speaker 1: the chief counsel for the American Center for Law in Justice.

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Speaker 1: My friend and colleague at the Fox News Channel, Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: who is a lawyer in and of his own right,

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Speaker 1: and both of them have been all over all of

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Speaker 1: these legal issues that Comey should be facing. Welcome both

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Speaker 1: of you to the program today. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine, all right, Jay, Let's start with you. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the legal ramifications for comy testimony last week

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Speaker 1: and this relationship with Mueller. Well I think look, I

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Speaker 1: mean you talked about a ten USC sixty one and

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Speaker 1: this idea that that what the former FBI director did

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Speaker 1: while he was the FBI director was to take minutes

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Speaker 1: basically notes of a meeting if he was an FBI agent,

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Speaker 1: he'd be filling out what's called a Form three or two.

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Speaker 1: He takes this. This is a meeting with the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States, so um, I would assume to

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Speaker 1: start this is under executive privilege. Deliberate discussions with the

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Speaker 1: president is covered by privilege. Of course, he doesn't worry

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Speaker 1: about that. He takes the document, makes a document on

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Speaker 1: his government computer while he's in his government vehicle, goes

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Speaker 1: back and puts it in his government office. He holds it.

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Speaker 1: He does this in February. By the way, he releases

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Speaker 1: it to a friend of his. As we know, the

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Speaker 1: story goes now from James Combey's own mouth to a

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Speaker 1: friend of his with the sole purpose not to review

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Speaker 1: it for content and uh and grammar, to leak it

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Speaker 1: to the New York Times, because he said, lordy, when

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Speaker 1: I saw the tweet from President Trump, I figured I

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Speaker 1: have to have some kind of some way that I've

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Speaker 1: had this memorialized. And by the way, the contents of

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Speaker 1: that memorandum, that the subject matter of the memorandum, the

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Speaker 1: dinner the meeting was already leaked in The New York

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Speaker 1: Times the day before the tweet, and he leaks it

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Speaker 1: been for the sole purpose of getting a special counsel,

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Speaker 1: which lo and behold, we have a special counsel. Then

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Speaker 1: ask yourself this question. If an FBI agent was interviewing

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Speaker 1: a potential government official or someone else, and leaked that

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Speaker 1: memo of the investigation details, let's say, against Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: to the New York Times, how would that be received

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Speaker 1: and be perceived as a two FBI g in showing

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Speaker 1: up at Jadora asking you a lot of questions because

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Speaker 1: not only of a teen USC six forty one, but

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Speaker 1: possibly USC five thirty five, which is another section that

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Speaker 1: may be in play. We'll talk about that one later.

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Speaker 1: And then Gregg's done an unbelievable job on on a

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Speaker 1: ten USC four, which of course is the fundamental issue

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Speaker 1: with this whole obstruction of justice nonsense in the first place.

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Speaker 1: All right, By the way, I should note that I

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Speaker 1: guess as of late last week, you're a council for

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Speaker 1: the president. J F. Fair. Yes, I'm on the legal team. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: So let me let me go to you, Gregg. You

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Speaker 1: did do great work. Both of you have done great

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Speaker 1: work here and I really applaud your deep dive. Let

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Speaker 1: me start with a ten U s C four Now,

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Speaker 1: what was amazing. I think in that testimony of call

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Speaker 1: And I said to myself, oh my god, he literally

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Speaker 1: Was my interpretation right or wrong? There here your interpretations

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct. I mean, he could not call me answer

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Speaker 1: the question which was posed, which was did you think

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Speaker 1: the president that he was attempting to obstruct justice? If

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Speaker 1: Comey said yes, why why then he's incriminated himself because

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Speaker 1: he has a legal the under federal statute to report

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Speaker 1: it to the department. But yeah, but the crime, all right,

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Speaker 1: that is clear. The law is is just clear as day.

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Speaker 1: But the question is if he says I don't know,

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Speaker 1: then you go into why didn't you, you know Diane

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Speaker 1: Feinstein's quest, why didn't you just explain it to him?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you just get up and walk out? And

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Speaker 1: I'm too afraid, I don't know. I'm I was scared,

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Speaker 1: he said. If I was stronger, I would have Maybe

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Speaker 1: I should have. That's a good question, he said, if

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Speaker 1: I was stronger, perhaps it would by the way I

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Speaker 1: I've thought about that a lot lately. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: and in this particular case, what does he say, Well,

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Speaker 1: he says, you know, I'm I'm really upset about all

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Speaker 1: have done that. This was a guy that was also

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Speaker 1: groups like isis. Is this the guy you want out

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Speaker 1: there doing this? I mean I would think that he

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Speaker 1: was fired for cause in that sense, but putting the

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Speaker 1: thought there was an obstruction of justice, which he acknowledged,

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Speaker 1: there's not. I mean, let's not for everyone's focusing on

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Speaker 1: what James Comby said for two and a half hours

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Speaker 1: at that hearing, but let's not forget his written submission

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Speaker 1: to the committee, which Sean is part of the record,

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Speaker 1: and where he said, I did not feel that the

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Speaker 1: president was putting any pressure, obstructing anything on the Russia probe.

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Speaker 1: And I did tell the President three times that he

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Speaker 1: had not been and was not subject of an investigation,

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Speaker 1: and certainly the Michael Flynn allegations. And again it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just Jim Comey's version of this. Even if you

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Speaker 1: took that at its word, which I want, because he's

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Speaker 1: not exactly a credible witness, that's not obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 1: I talked to one of my law partners today who

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Speaker 1: was the prosecutor, also obstruction of justice. Great knows. It's

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Speaker 1: a very high legal standard. And the President at me

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Speaker 1: just throw in here. There are five under the statute,

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Speaker 1: there are five scenarios that are specifically defined as obstruction

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Speaker 1: of justice. Uh. They are lies and bribes and threats,

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Speaker 1: destruction of evidence or altering and concealing documents, call me alleges,

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Speaker 1: none of those things. So by definition, under the law,

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Speaker 1: I cannot be obstruction. All right, now, let's get to

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Speaker 1: a question that Jay. I saw you on George Stefanopolos

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Speaker 1: new Kingbridge given interview and Knuts said Congress should now

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Speaker 1: intervene and should abolish the Independent Council. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: Byron York is raising a nice question to an interesting

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Speaker 1: question when we raised Thursday and Friday, is Robert Mueller

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Speaker 1: now conflicted in the Trump probe? I'll ask you both well.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, first on the issue of the

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Speaker 1: Special Counsel, the predicate for the Special Council existing was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be this Russia probe, right, I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was this whole idea. So if you look at all

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Speaker 1: of that as it relates to the president, there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I said it in the Washington Time Post.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing there. There's no there there. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just it. It's not there now with regard to the

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Speaker 1: Special Counsel himself. And I've got to be careful here, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be uh direct on this as I

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Speaker 1: was with George Stephan Laufelos. I don't imagine a situation

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Speaker 1: coming up where this issue arises where he's going to

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Speaker 1: be recused or the President would exercise any of his

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Speaker 1: constitutional authority, because we already know the underlying action, according

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Speaker 1: to the FBI director, wasn't there. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: speculate what happens in the future. You can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: as the lawyer, one of the president's lawyers, can't do that.

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Speaker 1: But there's no question that the predicate that started all

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Speaker 1: of this as it relates to the president simply isn't there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But I look at the team of attorneys that Mueller

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Speaker 1: is now assembling, Greg Jarrett, I mean, it's a who's

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Speaker 1: who prosecutors, very serious people with pretty influential, influential resumes,

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Speaker 1: And it seems to me that you know, here we

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Speaker 1: go again. It's gonna be you know, uh, Patrick Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: all over again three years. You know, perjury traps set

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Speaker 1: down the line and they'll get nobody on the underlying crime.

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Speaker 1: Puts Patrick Fitzgerald new on day one, but they'll find

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Speaker 1: some perjury trap for somebody someplace. Yeah, everybody, everybody wants

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Speaker 1: a special counsel until they get one, and then it

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Speaker 1: is a complete debacle. And Morass I just finished a

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Speaker 1: new column, uh, and Sean I sent it to you

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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. You probably haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: read it, obviously, but it is entitled our Muller and

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Speaker 1: Comy now acting in concert as co special Counsel and

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Speaker 1: I think they are. I mean, look, these guys are

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Speaker 1: thick as thieves. They are longtime friends and colleagues. Uh

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Speaker 1: Comey regards his predecessor as a mentor. Mueller considers call

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Speaker 1: me his protege. If you look at the statutes on

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Speaker 1: special Counsel, it demands that Mueller uh opt out as

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Speaker 1: a conflict of interest. You must disqualify. And I want

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Speaker 1: to keep you both here, that you guys are brilliant

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Speaker 1: and this is fascinating to me. We're gonna keep for

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Speaker 1: the full hour. Jay Seculo, American Center for Law Injustice.

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Speaker 1: Gregg Jarrett, my friend and colleague and legal analysts at

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Speaker 1: the Fox News Channel. Stay right there, both, LEAs right

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Speaker 1: as we continue our to Sean Hannity Show. Told free

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Speaker 1: our telephone numbers eight hundred nine for one. Shawn, you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program and cultures

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Speaker 1: just livid over James Collmey's testimony and Robert Mueller as

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Speaker 1: the Special Council. Will get to her at the top

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Speaker 1: of the next hour. But Jay Seculo and Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: Greg j I wanted you to respond to Greg's column. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think look, Greg raises the issue of the standards

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Speaker 1: that are actually inside the professional responsibility sections within the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice as well. And there's this, So there

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Speaker 1: is this issue which every every prosecutor, every U. S. Attorney,

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Speaker 1: every member of the Department of Justice has to follow.

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Speaker 1: And you have to avoid even the appearance of impropriety,

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Speaker 1: even the appearance of impropriety. So again I'm not casting

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Speaker 1: I can't and I'm not going to cast any dispersions

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Speaker 1: on anyone here, but I will say that these are

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Speaker 1: issues that I'm sure the Special Council is going to

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Speaker 1: have to look at because he for instance, if there

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Speaker 1: was an investigation on the leak of what James Comey did,

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Speaker 1: could that be done by the Special Counsel? Does that

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Speaker 1: now have to go to another part of the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice because of their relationships. So all of those

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Speaker 1: issues come into play, as they would in any case

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Speaker 1: when you're involved with the government, enterprise and an investigation.

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Speaker 1: So this is not unique to this, but obviously because

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Speaker 1: of what we're dealing with and what you're dealing with here,

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Speaker 1: which is the uh, this probe, this investigation, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a matter as it used to be called, that

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Speaker 1: all of these issues come into play. As Greg said,

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Speaker 1: I think that's it's all of that is relevant and real.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me let me go back to your column. Greg,

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Speaker 1: Are Mueller and call me now acting in concert as

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Speaker 1: a co special counsel, now call me wanted the Special Council.

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Speaker 1: He leaked to get the Special Council. The Special Counsel

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Speaker 1: is one of his best friends. And apparently he consulted

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Speaker 1: Mueller before he actually gave testimony last week. You know,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing has a stinch to it. It was

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Speaker 1: evident at the outset that the FBI director who had

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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice investigation by Mueller, his close friend. So

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Speaker 1: he was incomprehensible that Rod rosen Stein would choose Mueller,

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Speaker 1: and it was baffling that Mueller would accept the position.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, I remember the moment I heard

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Speaker 1: you know, it turns out it's it's not a joke.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the statute here on conflict of interest

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Speaker 1: for special counsel. You cannot serve if you quote have

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Speaker 1: a personal relationship with any person substantially involved in the

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Speaker 1: conduct that the subject of the investigation. Will Comey is

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Speaker 1: that person. He's the only person who was in on

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Speaker 1: the conversation with President Trump at the White House, and

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Speaker 1: so there are no other witnesses beyond him. He is

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Speaker 1: the key, star, pivotal witness, and he is close friends

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Speaker 1: with a man who is the Special Counsel. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just a no brain. How come only that

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Speaker 1: I know of on cable TV or that I know

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Speaker 1: of in the media. How come we're the only three

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Speaker 1: j with oh, obstruction, collusion of even though collusion was

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Speaker 1: blown out of the water by James Coleman. Well, the

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Speaker 1: exactly what you just said, and that is collusion is

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Speaker 1: is the focus of what the Special Council is going

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Speaker 1: to do? Because the Special Counsel's mandate includes and matters

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Speaker 1: related there too, so it it becomes this broad scope

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Speaker 1: and with that include for instance, the James, comey leak

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Speaker 1: But because as I said, there's no there there I mean,

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Speaker 1: and if you look at the underlying what started all

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Speaker 1: of this, James call me acknowledged the president was not

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Speaker 1: obstruction with the guards to the Russian collusion. That investigation

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Speaker 1: and the only thing, I mean, if they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: an obstruction of justice case out of the idea that

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Speaker 1: I hope. And again the President didn't say he said

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Speaker 1: that this is only James called me Cestimony, stay stay

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Speaker 1: right there. I gotta hold you guys over um and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little deeper dive in the next

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Speaker 1: half hour into the laws governing the Special Council. Also,

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Speaker 1: the President not only didn't obstruct, but he actually encouraged

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Speaker 1: the tapes, which I had my own theory on it,

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Speaker 1: just the guess that if Donald Trump didn't say that

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Speaker 1: as forthcoming as he was, and I think it forced

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Speaker 1: I'll explain that when we get back more with Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: Fox News Channel legal analyst Jay Seculo, American Center for

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Speaker 1: Law and Justice eight nine for one, Shawn is our

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Speaker 1: number and culture at the top of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: But Mr Clapper then went on to say that to

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Speaker 1: his knowledge, there was no evidence of collusion between members

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Speaker 1: of the Trump campaign and the Russians. We did not

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Speaker 1: conclude any evidence in our report. And when I say

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Speaker 1: and C, I A with my office, the Director of

853
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: National Intelligence, had anything any reflection of collusion between the

854
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: members of Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no

855
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: evidence of that in our report. Was Mr Clapper wrong

856
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: when he said that, I think he's right about characterizing

857
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: the report which you all have read. We did not

858
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: include any evidence in our report, and I say our

859
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: that's n S, A, FBI, and CIA with my office

860
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence that had anything that had

861
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign

862
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included

863
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: in our report. Can you say definitively that there was

864
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: collusion there were people affiliated with the Trump campaign who

865
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: were working with Russians to time the release of damaging

866
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 1: information about Hillary Clinton had been that had been hacked,

867
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Speaker 1: either from John Podesta or the d n C. I

868
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: don't think we can say anything definitively at this point.

869
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: Have you seen anything, either intelligence briefings, through intelligence briefings,

870
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: anything to back up any of the accusations that they

871
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: have the documentation that they did the hacking, the hacking

872
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: on the night and on some of us, you know

873
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: that put the collusion though we have not. Do you

874
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump

875
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: associates and Russia during the campaign not at this time.

876
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen anything that suggests any collusion between the

877
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Russians and the Trump campaign. Well, there's an awful lot

878
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: of smoke there, let's put it that way. People that

879
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: might have said they were involved, to what extent they

880
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: were involved, to what extent the president might have known

881
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: about these people or whatever. There's nothing there from that

882
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: standpoint that we have seen directly linking our president to

883
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: any of that did evidence exist of collusion, coordination, conspiracy

884
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: between the Trump campaign and Russian state actors at the

885
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: time you learned of twenty sixteen efforts. I don't know

886
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: whether or not such collusion, that's your term, such collusion existed.

887
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. The big questions, of course, is is

888
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: there any evidence of collusion you have seen yet? Is there?

889
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: But there is a lot of smoke. We hadn't smoking

890
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: gun at this point, but there is a lot of smoke.

891
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: Do you agree with this conclusion that the president has

892
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: reached there was no evidence of collusion? You know, we

893
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen any of that whatsoever, George. We've been looking

894
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: and showing everything that they possibly have that has not

895
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: led to that. Uh. We have ultimate to all of

896
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: us have the utmost respect for Bob Mueller, both on

897
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: the Democrat and Republican side. I believe he's going to

898
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: do his job thoroughly. We will accept his recommendation and

899
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: path pathway forward. And I think that's extremely important that

900
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: we all agree this is the right person, the right

901
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: time to do this type of work. Alright, twenty off

902
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: four now till the top of the hour, So for

903
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: ten months, for ten months, you have had entire cable

904
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: networks advancing collusion collusion, collusion, collusion collusion, black helicopter theories

905
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: and tinfoil had conspiration set theories with zero evidence. Even

906
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: Maxine Waters and Diane find Stunt Joe Mansion again this

907
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: weekend said it, and Mark, well, there's smoke, but there's

908
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: certainly no fire. There's no evidence of collusion, none whatsoever.

909
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: And then Clapper and call me and Brennan and and

910
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Rodgers and everybody else in between. No evidence of collusion.

911
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: Now we also learned last week there was no obstruction

912
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, just the opposite that Donald

913
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Trump did not try to stop the investigation. Said it

914
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: would be a good thing if we did find out

915
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: the people, if people around me, satellites around me were involved.

916
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: We need to find out the truth. I wasn't involved.

917
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't me. And then of course, so he's not.

918
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: He was never investigated and called me, never told us,

919
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: no evidence of collusion. He not only didn't obstruct, but

920
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: he encouraged the investigation to move forward. Call me leaks

921
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: to the New York Times via a professor friend of

922
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: his from Columbia to get a special counsel, and then

923
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: he gets it, and then it's his friend, and then

924
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: his friend now is is actively involved in preparing him

925
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: for his his testament me last week. And I'm thinking

926
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: this all is predicated the whole Special Council issue on

927
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: the idea of whether the Donald Trump and his campaign

928
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: we're colluding with Russia as it relates to leaking information

929
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: to wiki leaks on the d NC emails, J Secular

930
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: American Center for Law and Justice, the Chief Council, and

931
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analysts. So I about have

932
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: this right, J and and if we have no collusion

933
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: after ten months and all we have black helicopter theories,

934
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: why is Mueller even there? Why? I don't even think

935
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: it's fair to black helicopter theories to say that there's

936
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: there there. I mean, this is a you know, this

937
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: was a And I'm saying this because Sean, I think

938
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: that the media is losing sight of what this was

939
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be. People are thinking that the investigation into

940
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: Russian inclusion is starting with the appointment of the Special Council.

941
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: We know that's not the case. That there's been investigations

942
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: into this alleged Russian collusion matter going on for many

943
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: months and you played, and I'm glad you did. All

944
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: of those people right and left center as well that

945
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: have said we've seen no evidence, We've seen no evidence.

946
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: There is no evidence. Clapper, I saw no evidence. Sally Yates,

947
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: a Democrat who was the acting Attorney general, saw no evidence. James,

948
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: call me no evidence. So what are we what's going

949
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: on here? You asked yourself the deeper question? And what

950
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: I think this is? In large part, I mean, of

951
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: course you've got a special counsel now, so it's got

952
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with that legal issue, and I'm dealing

953
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: with that as one of the lawyers. But what is

954
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: really the motivating factor for the frenzy I will call

955
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: he or the attempt at frenzy. And you know what

956
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: that is? Politics, media filibuster of moving legislation forward, legislation

957
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: that you've talked about on this broadcast, tax reform, Obamacare repeal,

958
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: that's it. Not he did the Paris uh treaty. He

959
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: did that. Uh. He got a Supreme Court justice confirmed.

960
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: He's issued a series of executive orders, not just on

961
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: the immigration asylumentues, which, by the way, or up before

962
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court right now, briefs we're doing that today.

963
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: But but even further so, I think that we have

964
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: to be really cognitive condescence of what is going on here,

965
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: and that is this is a media filibuster. I agree

966
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 1: with Jay, but I even would take it a step further.

967
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I think a the effort has been well and they

968
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: had to get over the shock of November eight too.

969
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: Since that day they've even talked about impeachment. Certainly, there

970
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: has been a well orchestrated group of enemies out there

971
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: to delegitimize the president, undermine a duly elected president, and

972
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: in a in a worst case scenario, they render him

973
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: somewhat impotent in advancing his agenda. In a great case scenario,

974
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: if you're a radical leftist or you're in the media

975
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: that colluded with Hillary, you know, you get him thrown

976
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: out of office. And that's a dream come true for

977
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: these people. Well, you know, the media has engaged in

978
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: a wholesale mugging of the president. Um anyway, that should

979
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: be your next column, the wholesale the media wholesale mugging

980
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: of a president. Well, I mean, they're recklessly throwing around,

981
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: without any basis for it, allegations of collusion. The best

982
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: I can tell the only collusion seems to be between

983
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: Muller and Comey. Um. And you know the opportunity of

984
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: the Senate in Heligence Committee, which by the way, is

985
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: an oxymorn, to pose questions about you know, all these

986
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: years we worked together. I had no idea. What a

987
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: wise ass you are, just like me. It's amazing. I

988
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: love it. Well, you know, they could have asked, any

989
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: senator could have asked, when did you meet with Mr Mueller?

990
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: How often did you meet before your testimony? Did you

991
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: prepare what it is you were going to say? Um?

992
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: He did admit that they did meet, right, yeah, he

993
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: But that's it. No follow up questions, you know. I mean,

994
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: after all, these two are longtime friends and colleagues. Um.

995
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: And you know the cases that they worked together are

996
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: are quite notable. I mean, they were famously involved in

997
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: the in the case over Ashcroft, and then they bungled

998
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: the case on the anthrax attacks, and and so badly

999
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: bungled uh that American taxpayers had to pay roughly five

1000
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: million dollars to a guy that they had fingered who

1001
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: was completely innocent. You know, well, I don't think we

1002
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: and viewed this and it was a comment I made

1003
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: last week j in a in a vacuum or in

1004
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: a bubble. We've got to also look at call me's

1005
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: conduct as it relates to Hillary Clinton. Now, he said

1006
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: there was no intent for Hillary Clinton when she put

1007
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: the email server in a mom and pop shop bathroom

1008
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: closet with top secret classified Special Access Program information on

1009
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: it that we're certain that at least five intelligence agencies,

1010
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: enemy intelligence agencies got a hold of. But you remember,

1011
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: the intent would be certainly, you know, even the mismanagement

1012
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: of classified documents and is of itself, mishandling is a

1013
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: is a crime. The destruction of it is a crime.

1014
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: We know she committed crimes. Lauretta Lynch is another case. Yeah,

1015
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean the whole thing with that

1016
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: whole issue of the James Coleman coming out and saying

1017
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: what was extremely careless, which is the legal definition by

1018
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: the way of gross negligence. I mean said and and

1019
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: the standard for that is gross negligence. They seem to

1020
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: have a unbelievable capacity to change the statutes, just change

1021
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: the law to suit the facts, rather than the facts

1022
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: impacting law. They just changed the statue. They leave sections

1023
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: out as if they don't exist. And that whole stunt,

1024
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: and you realize that's where all of this really started,

1025
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: was the whole James Cooney interjecting himself into the last

1026
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: presidential election. I mean, Hillary Clinton still blames let's not

1027
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: forget this that Secretary Clinton still blames James Comey for

1028
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: her loss in the election. She still believes that, or

1029
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: she's certainly still saying that exactly so, yeah, rather than

1030
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: she lost because he ran a parry poor campaign. And

1031
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: the fact is, and I think again, you go back

1032
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: to this. Now we've created this kind of WorldWind approach

1033
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: to what's going on here, and you've got all of

1034
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: the media, of course, you know, focusing on this. And

1035
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: but I was, I was a little bit impressed. I'm

1036
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: rarely not impressed, but I was impressed yesterday when when

1037
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: on ABC, and I was impressed with I thought George

1038
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: Stepanopolus was very fair with me, and I thought the

1039
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: panel's discussions afterwards were very good. He said. The big

1040
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: takeaway what he's saying is opening that James called me

1041
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: leaked the inform And I want everybody again to think

1042
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: about what we said at the beginning. James Coleby, the

1043
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: then director, he did this while he was the director

1044
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: of the FBI. He took those notes while he was

1045
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: right when we come back, I want to ask Greg

1046
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: on the issue of Lauretta Lynch because there's another issue here,

1047
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, please don't call it an investigation, just call

1048
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: it a matter. And he listened. And then of course

1049
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: the tarmac meeting with with Bill Clinton. As we continue,

1050
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: final moments now coming up with Jay Seculo and Greg Jarrett,

1051
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: and we'll get to your calls and Coulter at the

1052
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: top of the hour. Right as we continue with Jay Secular,

1053
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: Chief Council American Center for Law Injustice. Greg Jarrett, my

1054
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: colleague and friend and Fox News legal analysts are with me.

1055
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: I want to go Greg to you in the issue

1056
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: of Laretta Lynch. How did she possibly get away with

1057
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, you know, for

1058
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: what forty minutes talking about their grandkids, supposedly right before

1059
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: she made her decision in she did on the issue

1060
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Speaker 1: of Hillary Clinton. And then of course you know, going

1061
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: to call me or we need to get our words

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Speaker 1: on the same page. This is not an investigation. This

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Speaker 1: is a matter, which is exactly what the Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: spin machine wanted it to be called when in fact

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Speaker 1: it was an investigation, and frankly she should have been indicted. Well,

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Speaker 1: and it's smacks of collusion between the Attorney General, Lauretta

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Speaker 1: Lynch and Hillary Clinton and her campaign and the meeting

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Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton's husband. I mean, you put all of

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Speaker 1: that together, and what does it look like. It looks

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Speaker 1: like Lauretta Lynch might have obstructed justice. She might have

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Speaker 1: been the one who was interfering with the do Administration

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Speaker 1: of Justice, the investigation that was undertaken by Comey into

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Speaker 1: Clinton's mishandling of classified emails. If she was trying to

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Speaker 1: influence or impede Comey's investigation in some way by insisting

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Speaker 1: that he slanted from criminal investigation of matters, well, that

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Speaker 1: could arguably the greater obstruction of justice and any of

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Speaker 1: the silly stuff we're talking about hoping and wishing that

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Speaker 1: Flynn is cleared. You know, Sean kay had one thing

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Speaker 1: quick awesome, But people forget this. In the middle of

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Speaker 1: the I R S investigation, I handled those cases. In

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Speaker 1: the middle of the I R S investigation, the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States went on TV on an interview

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Speaker 1: while the investigation by the Department of Justice was going

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Speaker 1: on and said there's not even a smidgen of corruption. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the point. Come on, now, you know,

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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice. I mean, that's all. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you that that in the middle of investigation the president

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Speaker 1: says not a smidge and he already had the what

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Speaker 1: had the evidence, and then finished investigating. So this is

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying this is a manadgure factured. It's

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Speaker 1: a manufactured, non existent probe. It's manufactured in the sense

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Speaker 1: that now go away. I mean, are we gonna be

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Speaker 1: stuck with mule are now and black helicopter theories on

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Speaker 1: TV for another two years like or three years like

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Speaker 1: Patrick Fitzgerald. Well, my, my, my hope and my work

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Speaker 1: is that it not happened uh that long, and that

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01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: this is there's they've been looking again. I want to reiterate,

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Speaker 1: this is not like this is happening in a in

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Speaker 1: a vacuum here. This is the reality of every day.

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Speaker 1: And but I think you got looked. I never like

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Speaker 1: special counsels generally, I don't like them specifically. And I

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Speaker 1: and when I say, is the whole way that that's approached,

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Speaker 1: and then they add on and matters related there to

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Speaker 1: make these things go along. I am. You know there's

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna be lawyers and lawyers working to to to address

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01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: each and every allegation that may or may not come up.

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Speaker 1: That's what lawyers do. But generally these things take time.

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Speaker 1: I think again, the president's got to get back to

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Speaker 1: when he is and not getting back to the presidents.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody forgets it was just white. A couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, he was in Saudi Arabia and gave

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Speaker 1: a speech in front of fifty Muslim majority Muslim country

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Speaker 1: leaders and said, drive drive them out. I mean this

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Speaker 1: was major statements. Then goes to to Israel and says,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna get was gone. I got, I got

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Speaker 1: a role. You guys were great for the hour, Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: Fox and j Secular American Center for Law and Justice,

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Speaker 1: and you two and Sarah Carter tonight on Hannity. We

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Speaker 1: will blow this wide open. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: more powerful monologues we put together. Tunny Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both. When we come back to one and

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Speaker 1: only end, Coulter, do you agree with this conclusion that

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Speaker 1: the president has reached that there was no evidence of collusion?

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't seen any of that whatsoever, George.

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Speaker 1: We've been looking and showing everything that they possibly have. UH,

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Speaker 1: that has not led to that. UH. We have ultimate

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Speaker 1: to all of us have the utmost respect for Bob Mueller,

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Speaker 1: both on the Democrat and Republican side. I believe he's

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Speaker 1: going to do his job thoroughly. We will accept his

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Speaker 1: recommendation and path pathway forward. And I think that's extremely

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Speaker 1: important that we all agree this is the right person

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Speaker 1: at the right time to do this type of work.

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Speaker 1: You saw the president's lawyer earlier in the program. J.

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Speaker 1: Secular would not rule out the possibility that the President

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Speaker 1: might in the future take action against Robert Mueller. That'd

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Speaker 1: be a mistake. I don't know why you would take

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Speaker 1: action against one of the most well thought of law

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Speaker 1: enforcement persons we ever had, serving an unprecedented ten ten years,

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Speaker 1: I mean twelve years. He's gonna beyond his term, even

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Speaker 1: stayed longer with a unanimous consent, unanimous voting and Senate.

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Speaker 1: You've heard, so you have a person that everyone respects

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Speaker 1: and knows that he's high. You know, he's above the

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Speaker 1: above approach. You've also heard from the president's allies really

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Speaker 1: taking it taking after James call me on the idea

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Speaker 1: that he leaked that information to the New York Times

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Speaker 1: through a friend. You have any problem with that, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a concerning that was concerning when we heard that,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I I looked at it the self preservation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're in an unprecedented error, if you will,

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Speaker 1: uh kind of unorthodox approaches to governing. And with that,

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Speaker 1: it looks like that he took whatever action he thought

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Speaker 1: for self preservation. And we'll see if that rises to

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Speaker 1: a level of greater concern or of any type of

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Speaker 1: action needs to be taken. And I think Bob Mueller

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Speaker 1: will do it open, fair and honest job on that. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that confident. Glad you one, Sean, you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program now. Questions being

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Speaker 1: raised now that James Comey ran his testimony before the

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Speaker 1: Senate Intel Committee last week by Robert Mueller, and then

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Speaker 1: we learned in this testimony last week that it was

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Speaker 1: Comey who purposely leaked information to the New York Times

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Speaker 1: and the hopes that he'd get a special counsel, which

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Speaker 1: he got, which happened to be one of his best friends.

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Speaker 1: And they've been friends from fifteen twenty years now. Now.

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Speaker 1: It raises the question whether or not there is any objectivity,

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Speaker 1: whether or not there's a prejudice on the part of

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Speaker 1: Robert Mueller because his best friend got fired by the

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Speaker 1: President that he's now investigating, and whether or not there

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Speaker 1: should even be an investigation at this particular point, because,

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Speaker 1: as Joe Manchin pointed out, among the many, many others,

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Speaker 1: there's no evidence of collusion. Just to ask maxeem Waters,

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Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein, Mark Warner asked, James Colemey asked, James Clapper,

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Speaker 1: asked Brennan. Ask them all. They've all said, Admiral Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: They've all said the same thing. Well, why are we

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Speaker 1: investigating Russia collusion if we learned last week there is

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Speaker 1: no Russia collusion and culture is with us. The author

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Speaker 1: of the best selling book and Trump we trust e

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Speaker 1: Pluriba is awesome. To me. This is a massive conflict

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Speaker 1: of interest. I love your legal take. Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so many problems with James Comy it's not really

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Speaker 1: worth delving into his character other than to say, the

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Speaker 1: most honorable person can go to Washington and to have

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Speaker 1: his head turned. Oh please call me heroic Washington Post. Please, please, please,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason the Bible instructs us to not care

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Speaker 1: about what the world thinks of us if you're acting heroically.

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Speaker 1: God knows. Um, but wow, one person after another in

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Speaker 1: Washington goes and and all they want to do is

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Speaker 1: be called honorable, a man of probity. Um. Incidentally, this

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Speaker 1: business about um one more quick thing. The ship has

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Speaker 1: sailed on you and me, by the way, ever being

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Speaker 1: called any of those things. I just want you to

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, I think so. Um. That uh business

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Speaker 1: about how he leaked He James Coming leaked the memo

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Speaker 1: out of self preservation. No, no, no, no, no, no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: does anyone else have a nexus account? No, he leaked

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Speaker 1: the memo before Trump tweeted. You better hope there aren't tapes.

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Speaker 1: And thank god Trump sent that sent that that tweet um,

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Speaker 1: which he was, of course mercilessly attacked for at the time,

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Speaker 1: because suddenly Comy had to worry whether he suck up

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Speaker 1: to MSNBC leakings to to the media and these these memos, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be exposed by an actual tape. Suddenly

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Speaker 1: he had to lie awake at night wondering, am I

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Speaker 1: going to be exposed as a total fraud. And finally, Sean, finally, finally, finally,

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Speaker 1: we get the single most crucial fact, he or the

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Speaker 1: president is not under investigation. I was reading through Comi's

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Speaker 1: um may second testimony last night, and oh, my gosh, Virginally,

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Speaker 1: every answer is him hinting that the president is under investigation.

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Speaker 1: He was asked over and over again, is the president

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Speaker 1: under investigation? Well, we now know not only was Trump

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Speaker 1: not under investigation, but he kept saying to call me.

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Speaker 1: You got to tell the public I'm trying to be

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Speaker 1: president here, um and call me refused on the insane

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Speaker 1: grounds that no, I cannot make a statement about present

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Speaker 1: reality because there might be a future. Um. This is

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Speaker 1: the craziest thing I've ever heard. It would be batt

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Speaker 1: enough if Trump were just your average citizen, UM under

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Speaker 1: investigation and the media is talking about, oh, the investigation,

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Speaker 1: all these leaks in this private citizen, you know, Joe Blow,

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Speaker 1: and oh, we may have committed a murder and he's

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Speaker 1: being investigated, and the prodcutor refuses to say, no, he's

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Speaker 1: been cleared. This is even worse. This is the president

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Speaker 1: of the United States. Oh, and I might add in

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Speaker 1: that May second testimony um of Comey's uh, Senator Blumenthal says,

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Speaker 1: can you tell us whether the president is under investigation?

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Speaker 1: Among many other He was asked as many many times,

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Speaker 1: but directly directly put to him, tell us if the

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Speaker 1: president is under investigation, call me. Refused to do so

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Speaker 1: on the grounds that, well, if I start saying one

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Speaker 1: person isn't under investigation, well then if it puts me

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Speaker 1: on a slippery slope. Well, no, I think the presidents

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different from I don't know this

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Speaker 1: a White House intern. Um, you couldn't do that. Well,

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Speaker 1: only because of that Trump tweet did we find out

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Speaker 1: that Trump was, um, not under investigation. At this point,

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Speaker 1: there is no purpose to the independent council. The whole

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Speaker 1: reason for having an independent councilors. Oh, the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: can't properly investigate the president. Well, the president isn't under investigation.

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Speaker 1: There's no basis for this. In fact, thanks to these

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Speaker 1: civil leaks from this investigation, um, from the FBI, we

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Speaker 1: do know who's under investigation. Um, I think I have

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Speaker 1: them all in my head. Carter Page, Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner.

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Speaker 1: Am I leaving anyone out? Okay? Carter page Paul Manafort. Um,

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01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Paige was a satellite man of Fort came in in

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Speaker 1: the last two months. Um, none of the mark at

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Speaker 1: the White House now, so maybe possibly you'd have a

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Speaker 1: thin read for an independent council just for Jared Kushner.

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Speaker 1: Will Okay, how about Jared Kushner quits, then there's no

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Speaker 1: reason whatsoever. Um. And I don't really think there's a

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Speaker 1: reason even if Jared Kushner stays at the White House, because, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to say Sessions isn't gonna go full

1251
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Speaker 1: war against the president who appointed him. Is there some

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Speaker 1: special relationship between Jared Kushner and Jeff Sessions. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Moreover, Sessions is the attorney general. Jeff Sessions

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Speaker 1: is testifying this week. Um, and I'm just I'm already

1255
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: in my stomach is they're not And I'm depressed because

1256
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: Republicans are just instinctive losers. Um, we're going to see

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Speaker 1: a replay of Donald Rumsfeld apologizing for Abu Gray. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was the end of Donald drums Feld. That was

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Speaker 1: the end to not apologize Republicans. Jeff Sessions ought to

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: come out swinging say this is nonsense. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to be nice, but I'm not refusing myself, and I'm

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Speaker 1: firing Mueller. I I totally agree with you on every

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Speaker 1: single point, sitting here in amazement because that's basically my

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Speaker 1: opening monologue of the program. Not quite as articulate as you,

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Speaker 1: but I try, and I try so hard every day. Um,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's really Republicans are weak. But you've

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Speaker 1: got the five enemies that the president now has, the

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Speaker 1: deep State in their leaking, You've got Democrats obviously, a

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Speaker 1: press that has been co opted. I've never seen such

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Speaker 1: such black helicopter theorist in my life. Yes, and vicious

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Speaker 1: neco like Linda Blair in The Exorcist. It's who can

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Speaker 1: say the most vulgar, horrible thing about the president. And

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Speaker 1: let me mention they have been like this since the

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Speaker 1: moment Donald Trump appeared on the scene. Back during the campaign,

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: the media wasn't subtle. They warned the American people, don't

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Speaker 1: vote for this man. Don't vote for him. Um, this

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01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: will be a disaster, warning, warning warning, And the people said, yes, um,

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Speaker 1: even so we think we're going to vote for him.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, what is the downside? Oh and just

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Speaker 1: one other small point, why did Jeff Sessions accuse himself

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01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: because he met with the Russian ambassador, which every other

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Speaker 1: senator has done his job at the time. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: play this back. He wasn't vice president. He wasn't you know,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller writing the Steven. He wasn't even Roger Stone

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Speaker 1: for pizza. He was His job was United States senator. Yes,

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01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: he endorsed Donald Trump and introduced him at a few

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Speaker 1: Alabama rallies as his full time job United States senator.

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Speaker 1: He met with the Russian ambassador, as did a dozen Democrats.

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Speaker 1: That's what you do, as you know and have probably

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: surely talked about. Clara mccaskell was tweeting out about her

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01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: meeting with the Russian ambassador. Diane feinneim their pictures of

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01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: them all meeting with the Russian ambassador. There is nothing

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Speaker 1: improper about Jeff Sessions meeting with the Russian ambassador, and

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: on that he looked uses himself, and they demand a

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01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 1: special counsel on on the false claim which Comy allowed

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Speaker 1: to to sit out there, that Donald Trump himself was

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Speaker 1: personally under investigation. In fact, at this time, not only

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but no one in the White House. Oh

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Speaker 1: I forgot Michael Flynn. Okay, so it's Michael Flynn who

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: was not at the White House. Um car Page not

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: at the White House, Paul Manafort not at the house.

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01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: Most of them didn't even have anything to do with

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: the campaign until the very very end. Um. The only

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: one to the fifth one, the only one who's at

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: the White House is the president's son in law. Um,

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01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: if he leaves, there is no basis for an independent council. Well,

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: there's none whatsoever. But now what does that mean for

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: Republicans that they'd actually have to stand up and I

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01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: actually do something for once. No, you can't count on

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: I mean these guys, they're the Republicans in Congress are

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: worse than the Democrats. All they do is bowing scrape

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: at the first withering look from a Democrat. Oh my gosh.

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: And that marked by Paul Ryan, I know to exactly.

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: All right, stay right there and culture with us her

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: book e pluribus awesome and Trump we trust. Nine one,

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: Shawn is our number, all right, Sean Hannity. So we'll

1317
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: got to your phone calls at the bottom of this

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: half hour. And Culter is with us, the one and

1319
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: only end. Culter and uh, e pluribus awesome and Trump

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: we trust our best selling book. Alright, So Sessions is

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: going to go in there tomorrow and Sessions did his

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: job as senator, and the media is gonna go insane.

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01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: And I assume the networks are going to cover this.

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01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: We learned last week there is no Russia Trump collusion,

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: but they keep repeating it. I've never seen such lying,

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01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: outright lying to the American people by the press of

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: my life. And I'm not sure what the answer is

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: to get them to stop and maybe for a second,

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01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, just try to stand true to their mission

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: of objectivity a little bit. Well, that's never going to happen,

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: but it is a circumstance. Can that can be taken

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01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: advantage of? As I was arguing in the last segment,

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: Sessions has got to say the entire point of having

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: an independent council has evaporated with James Comey. Comy is

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: an eventual, um, reluctant admission that Trump is not under investigation.

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01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: So he's firing. He's not refusing himself, He's firing muller

1337
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: um And and okay, what what what? What are the

1338
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: downsides here? Well, it's the right thing to do. So

1339
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: that's not a downside. Um, it won't waste the president's time.

1340
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: He can get back to work for the American people.

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: That's not a downside. So the only possible downside is

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: the media will be hysterical. Would anyone notice the difference

1343
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: they've been calling for his impeachment before he was sworn in.

1344
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: They have ratted it up so high with with the

1345
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: left trying to outdo one another in the more um

1346
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: vulgar terms and and violent imagery they can use towards Trump.

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01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: On some of the MBC last Friday, there was an

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: in time. Most of it's based on hypotheticals. That's the

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: part I really like about the Comy testimony, since he

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01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: was forced into telling the truth because of Trump's tweets

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01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: saying those conversations may have been tape. The most they

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01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: can come up with is is James Comee's interpretation. And

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: I got the sense that and his body language told

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: me that. I mean, it's the point that he could say.

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01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: And then Trump left the room, and I had the

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: sense that he was robbing a bank. And then we'd

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: have six segments on you know, did Trump robit bank?

1358
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: On what's what the consequences were on Friday on Laurence o'donald.

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: They had an entire segment on what if Trump destroyed

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: the tape? So we're we're already and never never land

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: on what if and we must impeach? And I think

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01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: what was the time magazine? And I could assure you

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01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: there are no tapes that was Trump saying I may

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01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: have him to get in his head. He does have them,

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01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because it worked at dot com work.

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01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: Truth about a few major I mean, the biggest one

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01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: is Trump himself is not under investigation. The other party

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Speaker 1: is the truth about what he said about Michael Flynn.

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so clear now, even in in Comi's

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Speaker 1: description of it, which he is trying to make as

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: negative as possible. Again, if you go back on Nexus,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I tend to remember these things. Um. The

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: news at that time was that Michael Flynn was under

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01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: investigation for his contacts with Russia during the transition. That

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01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: was alleged to be a crime. Foreig and wide throughout

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Speaker 1: the media. We find out a few days later, um, no,

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01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: actually that isn't a crime. Trump held that magnificent press

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: conference where he said if he hadn't been talking to

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: the Russians. I would have ordered him to the only

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: reason he was fired was well, from what I understand,

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Speaker 1: there was a lack of chemistry between the President and Flynn,

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: but also because he had allegedly misled the Vice president.

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01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: So what Trump clearly was saying to Comey was don't

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: drag him over the coals over this, over this firing,

1385
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: I e. Don't do to him what you're doing to

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01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: me and let the public think that that was a

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01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: criminal act. Well agreed, I mean, and the fact of

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: the matter is, all of these lives have been spread.

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: Now I believe new Gang Ridges is right. If you

1390
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: look at the people now that Mueller is hiring, this

1391
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 1: is you know, Patrick Fitzgerald on sterile. It's these people

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01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: need to justify their existence, you know, mission creep if

1393
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: you will, will go into all sorts of bizarre directions

1394
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: if they don't end this now, Yes, no, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And look, both Comey and Patrick Fitzgerald um did have

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: have long and illustrious his histories as honorable prosecutors. There

1397
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: is something in the water in Washington. They get there

1398
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: and they so want to be praised. They sound you're

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01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: you're right, You're lucky that you and I are lucky

1400
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: that we enjoy being hated by the media, because if

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: you don't, you will get to Washington. And it's just

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been one person after another, a one

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01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: time honorable person gets to Washington. And Patrick Fitzgerald is

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01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: a fantastic example. When he started Independent Investigation, he knew

1405
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: day one, no crime has been committed. Richards go home, No, no, no,

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01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: We put everybody on with someone else, and Scooter Libby

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01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: suddenly a convicted felon and loses his law license. Well said,

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01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: all right, and aqu to having you back. You are

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: fired today, shn when we come back, wide open telephones, News,

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: round Up, Information overload to the top of the hour.

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01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: One Sean is our number. If you want to be

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01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: a part of the program. You know, I just want

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01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: everybody to completely understand. By the way Linda just handed

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: me this, Wow Allen headline is where was this written?

1415
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: Do you know? Uh? I saw Melanie Morgan who runs

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01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: the Media Equalizer with our friend Brian Maloney and Melanie

1417
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 1: Morgan and she finally liberal host offends Hannity. Now in fairness,

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: Lannie Davis did defend me on Twitter, So I gotta

1419
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: be fair. He you know, he went to bet and anyway,

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01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: I was at where all the liberal hosts, why don't

1421
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: they stand up for me while there is an orchestrated

1422
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: attack by you know, all of these people with the

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01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: Soros Clinton group. By the way, Bill Maher uses the

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: inn word. No, they didn't attack him. The same group

1425
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: that went after don Imus and successfully got him fired.

1426
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: And don Imus, by the way, also apologize like Bill Maher, apologize,

1427
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 1: and nobody went after trying to get Bill Maher fired

1428
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: over there. They don't go after Stephen Colbert, they don't

1429
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: go after Rachel Maddow's conspiracy theories. They don't go after,

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, any of these liberal hosts on cable. They

1431
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: only go after conservatives because they want to silence conservative speech.

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01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: And it's also interesting, is uh And I don't know

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01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: what the status of all this is. I guess it's

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01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:33,839
Speaker 1: coming soon. But apparently there is more incendiary, vile, vicious,

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01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: horrific things that have been said by the people that

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01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: run the Sorrows Clinton organization over time that I guess

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01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: that'll be starting to come out pretty soon at some point.

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01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just reading between the lines here. I

1439
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're up to. But um, it's

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01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: just interesting anyway, Ellen Ratner, I've known for years. I

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: like Ellen Ratner, longtime radio television personality. I just want

1442
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: to tell you how I feel about Sean Hannity. I

1443
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: have known him almost twenty is that's true. We've known

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: each other a long time. Of course we disagree politically.

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01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh this, I didn't know, she said. She He's a

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: kind and generous man. Thank you, Ellen, And I think

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01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: the same of you. He's well liked by the line

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01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: staff at Fox, many of whom do not share his

1449
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: political views at however, makes nodes difference. He's kind, he's

1450
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: not an egotist. Everyone generally really likes him. He's also

1451
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 1: generous with his time, all around a good guy anyway,

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01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: She's She's said, and you know, but for Levine, you

1453
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: know out the Levin's on vacation and he's posting every hour.

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01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: It's a Facebook post defending me. I'mbe frank. There there's you.

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01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: Hwitt reached out to me. If the number of people

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01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: reached out to me, Mike Gallagher defended me. Um, I

1457
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: can't think of Mark Simona New York defended me. Rose

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: tennant In Pittsburgh defended me. We're not even on the

1459
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: same station anymore, but I love her. She's awesome. And

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01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: there are a few people. But then there's also a

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01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: group that really is silent. And I'm trying to get

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01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: to understand. Is they they use this Lynsky tactic. They

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: want to isolate and then they go in for the

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01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: attack and the kill. And you know what, they weren't

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: successful because we brought you into this. Bill. O'Reilly was

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01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: on I guess news Max praising me for just standing

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01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: up and defending myself. Wished he had done it himself.

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01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind words, but you know, it's there's

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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: no other choice because, as I said at the time,

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 1: this was a kill shot. This was to take me out,

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Speaker 1: to get me fired, to get me off the year.

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Speaker 1: And you might think, Hannity, that's hyperbole. Hannity, you're paranoid.

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Speaker 1: I've never been paranoid. Uh, maybe occasionally a little bit

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Speaker 1: of hyperbole occasionally. You know, we all were in talk

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Speaker 1: radio and I'm a talk show host. But the reality is,

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01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: as I see a clear present danger, same group that

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Speaker 1: when after I miss a doctor Laura, same people that

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Speaker 1: went after O'Reilly, same people that went after Rush, the

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Speaker 1: same people that went after Beck. Now they don't want

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Speaker 1: any Fox News Channel at the end of this, or

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01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: at least they you know, shadow of what it once was.

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Speaker 1: And the timing of it is pretty interesting to me too.

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Speaker 1: You know, if it's perceived that anybody likes the President,

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Speaker 1: defends the president believes in the President's agenda, which I

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01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: believe in the agenda. I want to get Americans off

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Speaker 1: of food stamps, back in the labor force, and out

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Speaker 1: of poverty. I want to I want to go back

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Speaker 1: to the point where every American I don't want to

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Speaker 1: fifty one year low and home ownership. I don't want

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: to be robbing from future generations. I don't like this

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01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit decision because I want to secure our borders.

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01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 1: And if somebody's coming from a country that has values

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: that contradict our constitutional values, where you grow up under Shariah,

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01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: persecuting women, killing gays and lesbians, and persecuting Christians and Jews, sorry,

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: all of those values contradict our values. And I don't

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01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: want somebody bringing those values with them trying to either

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01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: proselytize or create the theocracy that they loved here that's

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: not who we are. And if you want to come

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Speaker 1: and be a part of our family, you you should

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Speaker 1: be willing to go through whatever vetting is necessary to

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01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: make that hampen. And I don't find that pigoted, prejudiced

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: in any way. It's a it's a clash of cultures.

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: Some people believe you can should be able to tell men,

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01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: should be able to tell women out to address and

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01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: tell them they can't drive a car. I'm not part

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01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: of that. Some people believe it's perfectly fine and just

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: go killing us. Some people, because of their sexual orientation,

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: leave people the hell alone in their life. They're not

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01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: bothering you, leave them alone. It's none of your business, none, zero,

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01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: zip handed it. You didn't always feel that for the

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01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: last twenty five years, I have seriously, so I'm saying that,

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01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's Hannity that's saying you can't persecute Christians

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01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: and Jews like this. What about religious liberty and freedom.

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01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: So it's a real, clear present danger. But you made

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01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: this happen and we stopped it in its tracks. But

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01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 1: it's you know, Riley even said, this is this is

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: not going away. This is now the conditions I've been

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01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: telling you about for years we work under as conservatives.

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01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: Every second, every minute of every day I am on

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01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: the air, I am being recorded by people that are

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01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: paid huge sums of money to sit in there underwear,

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: that have no lives and monitor every word that comes

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01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: out of my mouth in the hopes that I say

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01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: one thing they deem politically incorrect that they disagree with,

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01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: and then they can use that attack my advertising base.

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: You kill the advertisers off, you kill the show. And

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01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,480
Speaker 1: to the great credit of our advertisers, they weren't intimidated,

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01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: so they had to go broad in general with me.

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01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Hannity is a right winger. Hannity believes in cutting taxes

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01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: and hurting poor people, and he wants dirty air and water,

1531
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, all basically everything you here during the election

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01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: breaking news. Now, by the way, they're gonna say, it's

1533
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna be Today's head, Like, how did he said it?

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01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: He finally he wants dirty air and water. He wants

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01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: to drink it himself. No, I don't want dirty air

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01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: and water, and no I don't want to throw granny

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: over the cliff, and no I don't want people in

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01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: poverty on food stands. I think if I added up

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01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: how many times I have been out there champion a

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01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: good economy for those people that are left behind. I

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01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: probably am by far the person on radio and TV

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01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: that mentions them the most. And it's probably rooted in

1543
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: my blue collar background because I lived it. I know

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01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: what it's like. I know what it's like to go

1545
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: job to job. I know what it's like not to

1546
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: have any security. I know what it's like not to

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01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: have healthcare. I know what it's like to quote be

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01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: poor because I didn't have any money in a bank

1549
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: account and I also was in debt. I've struggled like

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01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: so many other people. It was decades of my life.

1551
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: And people say, well, you work what in a restaurant

1552
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: for five minutes? No, I construction for five I did.

1553
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: These are two decades of my life that I was working.

1554
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I never thought all these wonderful things would happen to me.

1555
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: And it's not really about me. It's it's about something

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01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: that we cherish in this country deeply, the free and

1557
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: open exchange of ideas and ideals and opinions and thoughts

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01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: and and views and understanding of things. And if you

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01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: can stop conservatives and speaking at the home of the

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01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: free speech movement in Berkeley, and you can shut down

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01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: conservatives on the radio, and then you could change the

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01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: Fox News channel, you know, the one, the one bastion

1563
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 1: in the country that just gives the president a fair shot. Okay,

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01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can, you know, Rachel man Ow

1565
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: can spind her wild, crazy, absolutely off the charts crazy

1566
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. I mean, Sean Hannity is allowed to have

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01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: the view that we should lower tax has become energy independent,

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01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: that Obamacare is a disaster, that we can build the

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01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: wall to keep our identity and keep the country safe.

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01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, I believe in education, back to the states.

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01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: These are so horribly controversial, these opinions, and that I

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01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: want the forgotten men and women to have the same

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01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: opportunities in life that I had. It's it really isn't

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01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: about me at the end. It's about they kill me off.

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01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: They kill the Fox News Channel off, they kill conservative

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01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: talk radio off, which is obviously their goal. Then the

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01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: country is not gonna be better off. And some of

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01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: you say, good grindance, you're off. I can't make you listen.

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01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: And this is why a lot of you got disgusted

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01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: with me a number of times in my career and

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01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,759
Speaker 1: we actually went back to the archive and play tapes,

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01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand and whatever defending that idiot Bill

1583
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Mary's an idiot. He is, he's rude, he's crude, he's vile,

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01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: he's you know, whatever he is. I don't want to

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01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: be a part of a movement to silence him or

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01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 1: covert any of these liberal cable hosts. I never came

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: out and said get Air America off the air. They

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01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: did it to themselves. That was so compelling. Nobody wanted

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01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: to listen. And I I'm you. They have everything else

1590
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: except the Internet, except new media, except talk radio, and

1591
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: they're trying desperately to crush the Fox News Channel. Just

1592
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: try it, and if they can do it by or

1593
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 1: before the mid terms, before the the re election efforts

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01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: of the President, then they're gonna do it. And I

1595
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: don't overstate this case, but this is only the beginning,

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01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm prepared to dig in all fight

1597
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: to my last breath. And if I end up on

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01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: the street, I'll talk to myself, that's all. Do Well,

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01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: I'll put up a science as we'll do, show four

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01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: donations for food. I'm kidding, but I probably will talk

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: to myself. Well, that's called Linda. There's a three hour

1602
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: show in and of itself. All right, let's get to

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01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: our phones. Larry and Yorkville, Illinois. Larry, how are you

1604
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: glad you called? Hey? Sean, thanks for taking my call,

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01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: Sir Um Yeah, you know, I'm gonna talk about a

1606
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: few things. And called their boy. She was really firing

1607
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. She hit pretty much most of my

1608
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: talking points. But just to expand, I you know what

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01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: she said about Sessions. I really hope he comes out

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01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: firing because you know, like you and conservatives on radio,

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01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: Sessions is the guy they really want to get out

1612
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: of there. I mean, he's the guy they really want

1613
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: to get removed. And uh, I hope he really comes

1614
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: out and is strong and doesn't you know, really sit

1615
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: back the way a lot of Republicans really are. I mean,

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01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't have to playing rope a dope or what's

1617
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: went on and they're gonna strike back. But you know,

1618
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: they really need to get on offense, the Republicans. It's

1619
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:10,560
Speaker 1: demoralizing to see how scared they are to you know,

1620
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: really fight for anything. It's uh, it's baffling to me. Yeah, well,

1621
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something. It's time for Republicans member,

1622
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: there are five enemies of the president. Number one is

1623
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: the deep state. Number two is a corrupt Hillary colluding

1624
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: media that spins black helicopter conspiracies. Three week Republicans, you know. Four.

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01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Then you've got, of course, the never Trump or group

1626
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: of people. And then you've got you know, what's my

1627
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: fifth group? You got all of these people. No, not

1628
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: the drinking group, No, that's the but you've got all

1629
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: of the there is now. All they want to do

1630
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 1: here is overturned the election. This is an effort to

1631
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,839
Speaker 1: ten Listen, I'm gonna say it the same way. Everything

1632
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: here is to take the president down to overturn a

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01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: duly elected president of the United States. And they'll lie,

1634
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: they'll make up conspiracies, they will undermine him, and there's

1635
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 1: no compunctions at all. There's no standards, there's no morality,

1636
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 1: there's no low that they won't sink to to try

1637
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: and overturn a duly elected president because they don't like

1638
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: him and they don't like his agenda, and he's a

1639
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 1: threat to the deep state, he's a threat to the swamp.

1640
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: It is. It is what it is, and I don't

1641
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: make that up either. So I'll give you the last word.

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01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the the most scary of those groups. Like

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01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: you said, the deep state is scary enough because they're

1644
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: not elected, But to me, the media is even worse

1645
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,560
Speaker 1: because not only are are they not elected, but I

1646
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a mechanism to even fight against

1647
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: them when they're you know, spewing obvious lies. I mean,

1648
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: what's your mechanism to to defend against that. I mean,

1649
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can you can defend it?

1650
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: You can't. I got And if we don't get to

1651
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 1: the bottom of all the Obama holdovers are not removed now,

1652
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: and if all the deep State operatives that have been

1653
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 1: leaking selectively to hurt the president are not removed now,

1654
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I think they'll win. I'm gonna be very blunt. I

1655
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: think that eventually it just becomes so overwhelming, and the

1656
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: media gets so hysterical, and the Democrats get so loud,

1657
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: and the narrative gets so deep, and it penetrates into

1658
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: the American psyche. So it's almost like spreading lies at

1659
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,440
Speaker 1: a level I've never seen in my life in conspiracy.

1660
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 1: Another reason why I think we need one. Hello, Little

1661
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: It's Lilo, me and trying to kill me off too

1662
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: and get rid of all of us. Can you imagine

1663
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: poor Sunshine if I get fired, She's gonna be so upset.

1664
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna be upset. Right, Oh, you don't think it's possible.

1665
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: I can't even think about that. Shawn is a number.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's gonna wrap things up a tonight, alright,

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Speaker 1: Hannity Tonight at ten, Donald Trump firing back at Collmey

1668
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: and Mueller's political witch hunt, and is it time to

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01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: end the special counsel and to call me l eight laws.

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Speaker 1: We've got our panel tonight. J Sekulo will join us,

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01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett and also Sarah Carter. That's all coming up. Also,

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Speaker 1: we have black helicopters and conspiracy theories on NBC. We'll

1673
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: get into that with Governor Huckabee. We have Horaldo Rivera

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Speaker 1: tonight and much more. Ten Eastern Fox