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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ and

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Speaker 2: Bucky on an episode where we are breaking down the

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Speaker 2: best of the big three quarterback pro days. That was

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Speaker 2: at USC with Caleb Williams, that's LSU with Jayden and Daniels,

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Speaker 2: and that's North Carolina with Drake may So we've been

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Speaker 2: able to pull some of the commentary from those pro days,

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Speaker 2: some of our thoughts and opinions on these guys, and

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Speaker 2: thought we would put this together for you so get

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Speaker 2: a good feel for what happened with these top passers.

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Speaker 2: Let's start first of all here with the conversation that

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Speaker 2: took place daring Caleb Williams Pro Day at USC.

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Speaker 3: Great to be back here with you for another one

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Speaker 3: of our pro Day specials here on NFL Plus, taking us,

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Speaker 3: of course, to the campus. They're eight point five miles

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Speaker 3: where we sit here in southern California. Red Lewis, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah, all here with you as we welcome you

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Speaker 3: to this Pro Days I shall hear with USC guys.

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Speaker 3: Great to be back here to get this thing rolling

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Speaker 3: and to get these pro days going. It is pro

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Speaker 3: day season for sure. And as we talk about Caleb Williams, right,

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Speaker 3: he gave us a collegiate career full of wow moments

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Speaker 3: where off schedule became on brand, and that brand is

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Speaker 3: set to command top dollar as the potential, if not probable,

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Speaker 3: top pick once we get to Detroit. So DJ, let's

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Speaker 3: start it off by having you show us why we've

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Speaker 3: been talking about Caleb as the number one dude for

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Speaker 3: more than a calendar year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been wired to wire and when you go

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Speaker 2: to the video, you can see what get teams excited,

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Speaker 2: specifically the Chicago Bears to make the decision they made

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Speaker 2: with Justin Fields to play from the pocket. That's a

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Speaker 2: big question, but when you study him, you'll see enough

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Speaker 2: of it to know he's capable. There. The big arm,

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Speaker 2: the deep touch over the top, that's outstanding. The playmaking

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Speaker 2: shows up with that elite arm strength. Watch him snap

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Speaker 2: that hip. We'll watch some of those throws today. When

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Speaker 2: he's going left. He's got so much torque from his

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Speaker 2: lower body can generate tremendous voe even when he's off schedule.

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Speaker 2: How about this play his introduction to the college football world.

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Speaker 2: They're struggling in a rivalry game. He comes onto the

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Speaker 2: field leads a big comeback against Texas, and that's why

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Speaker 2: I have him all the way up there at that

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick, the first of two first round

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Speaker 4: Look, I mean, you talk about Kaylan Williams.

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Speaker 5: You talk about this spectacular playmaking ability that he brings.

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Speaker 5: You talk about the wild plays DJ you talked about

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Speaker 5: off schedule, just being able to make plays in a

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Speaker 5: variety of different ways. When you look at the National

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Speaker 5: Football League, is not just what the offensive coordinator can design.

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Speaker 5: Is what can your quarterback create to keep the offense

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Speaker 5: on schedule, but more importantly, to put points on the board.

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Speaker 5: That's where Caleb Williams comes in. He shines when it's

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Speaker 5: out of structure. When he has to make plays on

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Speaker 5: his own, he does in splendid fashion. Is one of

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Speaker 5: the reasons people that have talked about him as a

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Speaker 5: generational talent. We'll see if some of that that comes

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Speaker 5: out in terms of his superpowers, but he certainly makes

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Speaker 5: amazing things happen when he has the ball in his ends.

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Speaker 2: Some words are going to come up a bunch when

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Speaker 2: watch him throw the first one, Buck is smooth, like

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Speaker 2: you can just see it in his movements. He is

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Speaker 2: very controlled, very athletic, very coordinated, very smooth. You see

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Speaker 2: that when he's going to be on the move. You

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Speaker 2: saw it throughout his time that he's played in college football.

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Speaker 2: I think today for me personally, Buck, I want to

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Speaker 2: see the free throws. He's won the dunk contest. I've

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Speaker 2: seen him do that, like you see that during the year,

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Speaker 2: all the off schedule stuff, the different arm angles. Today

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Speaker 2: I think it's almost kind of do the basic stuff,

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Speaker 5: It's funny that you point up the basic stuff because

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Speaker 4: That everyone won. Is can he do that? Can he

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Speaker 5: It's funny because he does all the advanced stuff when

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Speaker 5: we talk about all platform throws, but can't he sit

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Speaker 4: Timing rhythm quarterback.

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Speaker 5: No one wants him running around the pocket like crazy candy,

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Speaker 3: Getting one of those deep over routes right there to

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Speaker 2: Nice clean seven step drop. Is his feet look good

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Speaker 2: let's get back, Let's let's show some quickness and some

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Speaker 2: urgency getting away from center. Buck with him, you know,

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Speaker 2: almost think there's times where he benefit from just kind

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Speaker 5: And I think sometimes when you had the success that

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Speaker 5: his sophomore year, has to come back for his junior.

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Speaker 4: Year, how do you top that?

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Speaker 5: How do you top being celebrated as the best playing

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Speaker 4: That third season.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I believe last year he pressed, he was trying

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Speaker 5: brand that he's created as an off platform thrower. If

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Speaker 5: he just settles in and just kind of does the basics, look,

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Speaker 5: he's a spectacular playmaker. I kind of liken him to

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Speaker 5: Steph Curry, like you fall in love with all the

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Speaker 5: trick shots. But at his heart, he's a very good,

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Speaker 4: Less he came to mastered that part of his game.

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Speaker 3: I didn't throw a whole lot of those pitches, especially

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was joking with Rhad about this earlier buck. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you watch Caleb, I thought, look, he had to

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Speaker 2: deal with two different types of pressures, the physical pressure

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Speaker 4: Of the scoreboard.

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Speaker 2: Because every series he's tried it out, there's another seven

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Speaker 2: like I was watching the game and it's second and

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Speaker 2: fifteen most quarterbacks and second fifteen, let's get half of

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Speaker 4: Get through it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, he wants to go get all of it

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Speaker 2: needs to kind of Hay, let's play within ourselves a

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Speaker 5: So here's the funny thing about that part of because

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Speaker 5: what you're talking about is not a talent driven thing.

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Speaker 5: It is something that is a fixable flaw. That's something

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Speaker 5: if he's willing to take coach and you can get

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Speaker 5: manage the game of dose, and no, I don't think

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Speaker 5: game management is a big part of his issue. But hey,

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Speaker 5: let's be disciplined. Let's just take the easies and then

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Speaker 5: those plays to happen. So good thing about him, he

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Speaker 3: Right and like, and that's kind of the been the

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Speaker 3: big debate here. It's like, all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 3: But that's not the case. Just because he can do

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Speaker 5: You would like to see him do some of those things.

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Speaker 5: But you're right, like, hey, let's let's master the boring stuff.

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Speaker 5: And because the offensive line was so bad DJ talked

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Speaker 4: Maybe he had to push.

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Speaker 5: The envelope a little more in terms of playmaking. But

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Speaker 5: if he plays with a good team, and man, we

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Speaker 5: just need to see those spectacular plays three four times

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Speaker 5: a game. Just really fall in love with the basics.

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Speaker 5: So give us the Neil ice cream. That's all average

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Speaker 5: is about five of those a games. It feels like, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he could certainly do that.

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Speaker 2: You know, this will tell you a little bit about,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of where it's got with him. I

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Speaker 3: And two years it feels like.

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Speaker 2: I posted a couple plays on social media the other

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Speaker 2: And I didn't reply to it, but I'm sitting here

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Speaker 2: going the guy threw for three hundred and eighty one

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Speaker 2: lost forty three and forty two. I'm like, are we

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Taj does not drop football, No, he is terrific hands.

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Speaker 3: And obviously Brendan Rice you see here, you know led

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Speaker 3: you know, down the field target of Caleb there, he

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Speaker 2: Number two got through his hands a little bit. He's

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Speaker 2: trying to show different trajectories here too. We've seen him

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Speaker 2: drive some steamballs. Now he's trying to put a bunch

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Speaker 2: things that I think is a strength for him too

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Speaker 3: Bucky and I were down on the field a little

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Speaker 3: I know you're up in the booth kind of watching everything,

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Speaker 3: but you could see, like when Xavier Worthy ran at

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Speaker 3: absolutely ecstatic, you know, and the way he handled himself,

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Speaker 3: you know, when he wasn't working out, wasn't doing you know,

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Speaker 3: all the testing did measure in talk to teams, and

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Speaker 3: I thought the way he handled himself in front of

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Speaker 2: Of showed you he's he's got what it takes. I know,

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Speaker 3: For doubt, they were at a pretty good pace here with

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up that touch too, and then

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Speaker 5: To me, I don't think you want to run quarterback

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Speaker 4: He has to be able to handle the.

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Speaker 2: I know people, for some reason, pro Day's bothered some folks.

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Speaker 2: It's set up for you to be successful in this environment,

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Speaker 3: I think we'll have a Caleb conversation or two when

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Speaker 3: for that. We've got a deep shot here from Caleb

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Speaker 2: I'll trust you on that one.

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Speaker 3: It looks good.

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Speaker 3: I mean the deep ball accuracy seeing I mean they

441
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Speaker 3: pushed the ball.

442
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Speaker 2: So what Eberflus, who's he texting back there? I just

443
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Speaker 2: put the phone back in his pocket.

444
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Speaker 4: That was it.

445
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Speaker 2: That could only have been an emoji. That wasn't enough

446
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Speaker 2: time to do anything other than an emoji.

447
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Speaker 3: That was or maybe maybe maybe that was a thumb

448
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Speaker 3: thumbs heart reaction. By going back and watching the twenty

449
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Speaker 3: twenty two tape, some of these guys, it made you

450
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Speaker 3: realize why we love him in the first place a

451
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Speaker 3: little bit. When you look at the differences between this

452
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Speaker 3: year and the twenty twenty two year for Caleb, is

453
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Speaker 3: is it cast around him?

454
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Speaker 4: Is it?

455
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Speaker 3: You know kind of some of those external factors.

456
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Speaker 2: Look, it's a few things. Number one, their offensive line

457
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 2: was better last year. He had Jordan Addison, a legit

458
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Speaker 2: first round wide receiver in twenty two. In twenty two,

459
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 2: he played with trust. In other words, he trusts they

460
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Speaker 2: were going to be there he put the ball in

461
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Speaker 2: some tight windows in the middle of the field and

462
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Speaker 2: in between the triangles of defenders where he trusted and

463
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Speaker 2: he let it rip. I thought this year he didn't,

464
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Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have the same protection up front.

465
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Speaker 2: The quality of opponents stepped up too this year with

466
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Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington on the schedule. They played some tougher

467
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Speaker 2: teams as well. But then I didn't see him trusting things,

468
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Speaker 2: and I thought, Buck, as we always like to use

469
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Speaker 2: the line, he was trying to eat the whole sandwich

470
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Speaker 2: in one bite instead of just trying to be methodical,

471
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Speaker 2: be patient.

472
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Speaker 4: And that's the really thing.

473
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Speaker 5: It's important that as an evaluator you go back and

474
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Speaker 5: not only look at last season twenty twenty three, but

475
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Speaker 5: you look at twenty twenty two, because that is the

476
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Speaker 5: entire body work, is not just the final season, and

477
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Speaker 5: you have to evaluate him on all of those things

478
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Speaker 5: and do the checks and balances in terms of how

479
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Speaker 5: did he progress throughout his time at Oklahoma SC and

480
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Speaker 5: those things. That is going to give you a more

481
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Speaker 5: accurate picture of what he could be at the next level.

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Speaker 4: There we go, take.

483
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Speaker 3: One deep down the middle.

484
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Speaker 7: Here got it Ie terrific brow and catch right there.

485
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams go straight into his English class after he

486
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 2: caught that one. He's all the way almost out the stadium.

487
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Speaker 4: Oh it's gonna.

488
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Speaker 3: Pun it, oh quick, that's how we're gonna end it.

489
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Speaker 3: It would appear.

490
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Speaker 2: That's something that Bears fans don't want to see much of. No,

491
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: they've punted it out over the last few years.

492
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Speaker 4: That's true.

493
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Speaker 3: And look, the expectations are going to be massive after

494
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Speaker 3: trading Justin fields away, you know, after we saw some

495
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Speaker 3: incremental growth. You know, they're at his game with the

496
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Speaker 3: Bears over the course of the last couple of years

497
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Speaker 3: and now really starting fresh new off. It's a coordinator

498
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Speaker 3: Shane Waldron comes in for Matt Eberflus now and a

499
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Speaker 3: fresh slate at quarterback in which all signs seem to

500
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Speaker 3: point towards Caleb Williams at this point. But you know,

501
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Speaker 3: plenty of drama in the draft. Could see a little

502
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Speaker 3: bit more.

503
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Speaker 2: I felt like this was a salad pro day. Like

504
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Speaker 2: it wasn't. This wasn't a show off pro day, you

505
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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, Hey, this is just gonna

506
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Speaker 2: it's gonna take care of business. Let's get in here,

507
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: let's get out of it.

508
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Speaker 3: Kind of like you know, you know, a big Greek

509
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 3: salad guy, a lot of different flavors.

510
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Speaker 2: Flavor Fairwell, that's a couple of crutons. Call it a day.

511
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Speaker 7: Anchovies, Adam Peters there, Peters, Yeah, okay, full hug, Yeah, alright, first,

512
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Speaker 7: that's good.

513
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Speaker 3: I mean again, I think it's as a good analogy

514
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Speaker 3: for it. DJ right there, I love it, bringing it,

515
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: bringing it back to the food.

516
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Speaker 2: It was not a five course meal, daily green, nothing

517
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: like that. Just nice and easy. Well, there you go

518
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Speaker 2: with Caleb Williams. Let's get to the next one here. Uh,

519
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Speaker 2: this is Jade and Daniels. Some have him as a

520
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Speaker 2: top quarterback in the class. I think he's probably got

521
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Speaker 2: a chance, a very good chance of being the second

522
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Speaker 2: pick in the draft. Win. It's all said and done.

523
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Speaker 2: But here's some of the commentary here from Bucky on

524
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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels pro day throwing the ball to his big

525
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Speaker 2: time receivers Milik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr.

526
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Speaker 8: Fucky Brooks, Patrick Claybahn Here in the NFL l A newsroom,

527
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Speaker 8: Jaydon Daniels finally throwing to see it on the combine.

528
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Speaker 6: What sets the Heisman Trophy winner. Apart from the other quarterback.

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Speaker 5: He's unique because he's a high end due are play maker.

530
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Speaker 5: He's a guy that look, he's the first one in

531
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Speaker 5: CFIS history to ever have twelve thousand pass yards three

532
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Speaker 5: thousand rush yards. We haven't seen that kind of success

533
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Speaker 5: at the college football level. And so when you think

534
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Speaker 5: about having a player who is a polished pocket passer

535
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Speaker 5: but also has all the specialists to add it on

536
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 5: design quarterback runs and improvisational plays, that is why people

537
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Speaker 5: are salivating over the opportunity to maybe get him as

538
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Speaker 5: a QB one.

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Speaker 8: And so the process has been extensive for Jane Daniels.

540
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Speaker 8: We finally get a chance to see him through We've

541
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Speaker 8: seen him other places. We saw a triumvir and a

542
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Speaker 8: very talented a quarterback, a couple of wide receivers. At LSU,

543
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Speaker 8: they won a national championship, Joe Burrow won the Hospit Trophy.

544
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Speaker 8: What about there is Jayden along with Laitue neighbors and

545
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 8: Brian Thomas Junior supporting the LSU women's basketball team, and

546
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Speaker 8: Angel Rees and Haley van Lift and them as a

547
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Speaker 8: are in their NCAA tournament run. Getting a chance to

548
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Speaker 8: see greatness on the basketball court. We've seen it on

549
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Speaker 8: the football field. Let's go into an XO here, Bucky

550
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Speaker 8: and show the folks what makes Jayden so special.

551
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Speaker 5: So Patrick, when we talk about Jade, we talked about

552
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Speaker 5: an A plus passion and a plus runner.

553
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Speaker 4: You see it, and you've seen it throughout his time

554
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Speaker 4: in college one.

555
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Speaker 5: He has fifty five career starts, so you've seen a

556
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Speaker 5: long resume of success.

557
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Speaker 4: Started at Aaronson to say, you saw the playmaking ability.

558
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Speaker 4: But here's what gets people excited. It's to touch in

559
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Speaker 4: the axey.

560
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Speaker 5: They you see him delivering the deep ball, dropping it

561
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Speaker 5: down to shoot.

562
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Speaker 4: Here's the vision.

563
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Speaker 5: But I would say the timing and anticipation, being able

564
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Speaker 5: to fit this ball into a tight window over the

565
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Speaker 5: middle of the field. But it's not only that we

566
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Speaker 5: talk about being able to create outside of the pocket.

567
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Speaker 5: This dude has big time speed. He runs away from defenders.

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Speaker 5: He creates problems because he's so challenging to defend. How

569
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Speaker 5: do you want to do? You want to force him

570
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Speaker 5: in the pocket. He's good enough to beat you that way.

571
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Speaker 5: You pressu him inside, he can get around and get outside.

572
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Speaker 5: He really has answers to all of the problems on

573
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Speaker 5: the test, which is why he could be and should

574
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Speaker 5: be a great play in the National Football League.

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Speaker 8: So there we see Jaden with his quarterback coach Taylor Kelly.

576
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Speaker 8: We've got a look thanks to Andrew Gruverer and Cameron Wolf,

577
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Speaker 8: the script that he's planned for today.

578
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Speaker 6: They're going to go all over the field. In fact

579
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Speaker 6: that they're already going about it.

580
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 5: Already doing so you probably see him start short to deep,

581
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: try and get warm up and seeing some of these

582
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 5: right now screens ball coming out. You're trying to look

583
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 5: at how quickly he can get it out, catch rock

584
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 5: and throw and then eventually the progressed to some more

585
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 5: higher difficult degree of difficulty throws and in terms.

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Speaker 6: Of evaluator pro day bucky.

587
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Speaker 8: Because there's a million different ways you can look at it.

588
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Speaker 8: People want to count how many balls hit the ground.

589
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 8: What do you want us?

590
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Speaker 5: So for me, the first thing you want to see

591
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Speaker 5: is just what does the arm look like, the velocity,

592
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Speaker 5: the zip, the arm talent. What is it like compared

593
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Speaker 5: to other elite players at the position. You want to

594
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Speaker 5: see what does his arm look like in comparison to

595
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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes. Does his arm look strong enough to be

596
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 5: able to cut the wind if we're playing the NFC East.

597
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Speaker 5: Can he play on the road in inclement conditions? Those

598
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: are some of the things you want to see. They

599
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Speaker 5: don't want to see the footwork. Does the footwork marry

600
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 5: up to the eyes, which marries up to where the

601
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: ball goes? Does it hit the target consistently? All of

602
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 5: those things are part of it. So it's not necessarily

603
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 5: about the completions. It's about the ball placement. Where does

604
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Speaker 5: it hit? He hit the intended target from a variety

605
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 5: of different angles.

606
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Speaker 8: So we're going to have a chance to see Drake

607
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 8: maythrow tomorrow. The obvious takeaway and when you talk about

608
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 8: these two quarterbacks is the talent on the outside. We'll

609
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 8: get to see Brian Thomas as well as the weak

610
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 8: neighbors in this workout. How much does it help in

611
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 8: a pro day workout? Because I'm looking at the script

612
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 8: here that the high level difficulty throws are going to

613
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Speaker 8: those two guys.

614
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Speaker 5: How much does it help to happen? Well, I give

615
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 5: him credit. I'll check out my little box we're in

616
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 5: telling this. Yeah, the bassould go to the best players

617
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: when you have big money hanging on the line, and

618
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 5: so he understands that he wants to get it. I

619
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: think you have to try and separate the player from

620
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Speaker 5: the supporting cast. How good is the player? Well, the

621
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 5: good thing about Jade we had a chance to see

622
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Speaker 5: him in two different schools. We saw him play the

623
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Speaker 5: areas on the state. We're able to look at what

624
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: he was there versus what he's become at LSU. How

625
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 5: much is it him developing or improving as a player.

626
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: How much of it is, Oh, he's playing with a

627
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 5: better team, that's why they're better because he spent two

628
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 5: years at LSU.

629
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Speaker 4: You can begin to kind.

630
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Speaker 5: Of separate what's his responsibility, what role would he contributed

631
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 5: to the team having success and his numbers going versus

632
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Speaker 5: if he was one year wandered, we probably would give

633
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 5: it all to the playmakers on the outside.

634
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 6: And how that one year being the last year the final.

635
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Speaker 8: Year because we look at say a Drake or a

636
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Speaker 8: Caleb they're second to last year is kind of the

637
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 8: statistically the season that jumps out.

638
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Speaker 6: How much of a benefit for that is Jake, Well, it's.

639
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: A benefit because if you look at it, because you.

640
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: Look growth isn't linear, it is ongoing and sometimes there's

641
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: some dips in it will. Jade Daniels finishes his collegiate

642
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 5: career on a high Heisman Trophy winner. The numbers are

643
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 5: spectacular when you watch what he was able to do

644
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 5: at LSU. So you're thinking, this guy is only getting

645
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: better at the game. He comes to the National Football League,

646
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Speaker 5: He's going to continue to build upon what he's learned

647
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 5: from his time at LSU. That is positive for Jade Dames.

648
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 5: So look, I would say this is a big three

649
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 5: at the top of the board. And I'm not talking

650
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 5: about Kendrick Lahar, j Cole and Drake. I'm talking about

651
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 5: these guys the league neighbors, Brian Thomas and Marvin Harrison Jr.

652
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: The difference is Marvin Harrison Jr. Is a smooth, florid playmaker.

653
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: Not as fast, but it's just steady and dependable, reliable,

654
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 5: can do a bunch of different things as a number

655
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 5: one target. The league neighbor has the juice. He is

656
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 5: the explosive playmaker. You can turn short passes into big games.

657
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: You see the explosives, the big play ability. He brings

658
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: all of that. Brian Thomas Jr. Is just gifted, very talented.

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Speaker 5: The game is easy for him. Still kind of coming

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Speaker 5: into his own as a number one receiver. But in

661
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Speaker 5: Neighbors and Harrison Jr. The explosiveness that he has, how

662
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: fast he ran today certainly is going to make people

663
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Speaker 5: think if I need that big play option, that big

664
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Speaker 5: play weapon as my number one receiver, Neighbors might be

665
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Speaker 5: the pick over Marvin Harrison Junior.

666
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Speaker 6: Also a lot of speed through the throwing sessions.

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Speaker 4: Jaydon maybe working off a spiker bell. I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: going to no hotel tempo. He's trying to rip through it.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that stands out to me is

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Speaker 5: this guy's terrific throwing in breaking rouse, meaning rouse that

671
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Speaker 5: are going more towards.

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Speaker 4: The middle of the field inside the numbers.

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Speaker 5: He does that for some quarterbacks that's really difficult because

674
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Speaker 5: of the traffic kind of discourages them. He's terrific on it.

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Speaker 5: Some of the struggles that we've seen outbreaking rouse, more arms, telling,

676
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Speaker 5: more arm strength, those things we talked about, he did

677
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 5: most of his damage intermediate areas. And one thing we

678
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Speaker 5: talk about trying to have comparisons, The comparison to CJ.

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Speaker 4: Strout to me is not quite there. I think he

680
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Speaker 4: kind of.

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Speaker 5: Reminds me a little more of Deshaun Watson when Deshaun

682
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Speaker 5: was coming out of Clems Okay.

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Speaker 8: So Malik neighbors at Wyguard thirteen on social media website

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Speaker 8: Twitter dot com.

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Speaker 6: Going to say, for two eight, fix it.

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Speaker 8: He would like us send everybody else to note for

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Speaker 8: two eight. I feel it if there's a clock that

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Speaker 8: says four two eight, why wouldn't be It depends on whose.

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Speaker 5: Clock it is, though, Like I mean, like it can't

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Speaker 5: be my man from way out in the stairs as

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Speaker 5: his buddy doing it on his iPhone has.

692
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Speaker 4: To come from an official scout on a stop watching.

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Speaker 5: You got to make sure you have to figure right,

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Speaker 5: not the thumb, all those other things. And so I

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Speaker 5: get Malik wants that fortune eight, but we got to

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Speaker 5: get some verifiable sources that said that fortune eight is legit.

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Speaker 8: Well right down the street, the LSU Tigers have two

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Speaker 8: indoor national championships in track and field, four outdoor national championships.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we can put on the laser. Maybe we

700
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Speaker 4: can bring.

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Speaker 6: A laser in not just there, maybe everywhere about.

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Speaker 8: I'll hop off my soapbox here as Jayden continues to work.

703
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 8: You mentioned the outbreaking routes. I'm sure as we see

704
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Speaker 8: Jayden hit that when there was one earlier in the

705
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Speaker 8: throwing session to ear lap neighbors, somebody may clip that

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Speaker 8: off and be like a contextualize.

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Speaker 4: That miss for us so early. Look it's early game.

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Speaker 5: Look, you're normally super nervous when you're doing this because

709
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: no matter how many games you played, there's something.

710
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Speaker 4: With all the money on the line, with.

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Speaker 5: All the scouts and coaches right there looking at you,

712
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Speaker 5: it may take you while to get into his rhythm.

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Speaker 4: But yet the only bath throat that.

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Speaker 5: We've seen is an early throw to is left and

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Speaker 5: outbreak and throw that can be a hard one anyway,

716
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Speaker 5: because you're going away from the strength. Like sometimes it

717
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: can be hard thrown across your body, making that throat

718
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Speaker 5: to the left kind to open up you him what.

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Speaker 6: The scheme works for Jayde Daniels.

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Speaker 8: If you're designing an offense, what offense would come to

721
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Speaker 8: mind with Jaydon Daniels, Well, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, I think any of these new schemes. Here's what

723
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Speaker 5: I say about Jayon Daniels. I think he's a scrambler,

724
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Speaker 5: not a runner. The difference between Jaydon Daniels and Lamar Jackson.

725
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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson is a runner where you're giving him the

726
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Speaker 5: ball like a running back. Jaydon Daniels, to me, does

727
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Speaker 5: his damage on creative plays, extending plays, the pocket breaks down,

728
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Speaker 5: he takes off running. He's not the guy that's going

729
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Speaker 5: to do that. When I think about offenses, look, I

730
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Speaker 5: think about anything that has the ability to feature a mix,

731
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Speaker 5: a shotgun, understanding, movement based stuff, some RPOs.

732
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Speaker 4: Because he can get the ball out of his hands quickly.

733
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Speaker 5: He can play in a new school offense that is

734
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Speaker 5: primarily featured International Football League. We see it all over

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Speaker 5: the league. So I don't think he's necessarily tied to

736
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Speaker 5: a scheme. But I think it's really important that the

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Speaker 5: offensive court they know exactly what they're getting a Jaydon Daniels.

738
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Speaker 5: You're getting a scrambler, not necessarily a design quarterback runner.

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Speaker 8: And based on that because when you see the non

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Speaker 8: designed runs, if you go back to Lamar's freshman season

741
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Speaker 8: at Louisville all the way to the AFC Championship game,

742
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Speaker 8: I've never seen him take hits like Jayden took in

743
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Speaker 8: his final year at LSU.

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Speaker 6: Is it because is it inexperienced?

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Speaker 4: The mindsett No, I.

746
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Speaker 5: Would says the awareness because remember Lamar Jackson's played like

747
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Speaker 5: he's played since he was a kid.

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Speaker 9: Like.

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Speaker 5: He's been the guy that has been the runner who

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Speaker 5: could throw and make plays. He was the best athlete

751
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Speaker 5: on the field. They put the ball in his hand

752
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Speaker 5: and allowed him to play quarterback and we saw him

753
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Speaker 5: grow up as a quarterback. Jayden Daniels has always been

754
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Speaker 5: the thrower, coming all the way back to when he

755
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Speaker 5: was at ALCOHOLM.

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Speaker 4: He was a thrower.

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Speaker 5: He was not a runner, he said, records as a passer,

758
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Speaker 5: not as a runner. This is, I would say, a

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Speaker 5: recent revelation that he had this superpower in his bag.

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Speaker 5: But I think the way that you use Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 5: is the same way that the Chiefs used Patrick Mahomes athletic,

762
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Speaker 5: not by design, but in gotta have it moments, Oh

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Speaker 5: take off, get what you can, but get down the ditch.

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Speaker 5: With Jade Dames and Lamar Jackson is I would call

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Speaker 5: it that spatial awareness.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is always aware of where the defenders are.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Jaydeon Daniels has that in need

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Speaker 4: ability to know where defenders are when he's running the balls.

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Speaker 8: But he did measure in at two hundred and ten

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Speaker 8: pounds today throwing in the long sleeves. I'm sure people

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Speaker 8: are going to parse that, but this is we've seen

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Speaker 8: him miss. But when he has miss, he's missed long.

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Speaker 8: There's a beautiful shot down the middle of the field.

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Speaker 4: Is that what you want?

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Speaker 6: You want to see? If he does miss, you have

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Speaker 6: to be on the aggressive side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want him to be aggressive. And this is

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Speaker 4: one you remember.

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Speaker 5: When guys are throwing on air, they should be able

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Speaker 5: to complete eighty to ninety.

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Speaker 4: Percent to pass it because they're not a defense out there.

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Speaker 4: This is a show off sess.

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Speaker 5: So whether or not is completed, it's for the evaluators

784
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Speaker 5: to eat to determine, well, how much range do we

785
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Speaker 5: have when he's at quarterback? How far can we push

786
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 5: the ball down the field? How do we need to

787
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: manufacture the d ball when he's at quarterback? Does our

788
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Speaker 5: offense need to be more of an intermediate based offense

789
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Speaker 5: or do we have the run of the field to

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Speaker 5: be able to attack with Jayde Daniels at quarterback. Part

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Speaker 5: of the workout is allowing scouts and evaluate us to

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Speaker 5: determine where he fits within their system, while also giving

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Speaker 5: them a little time to figure out how might we

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Speaker 5: need to adapt our system to really best suit.

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Speaker 8: His talents Wellcuse, of course there's talent on the outside,

796
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Speaker 8: But everything started with the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it all started with the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: We can say all that thing about my league neighbors

799
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Speaker 5: and Brian Times and how talented they are, but really

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Speaker 5: without a quarterback, they're just running track.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's the four point one without the baton.

802
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: I mean you're just running over and over and over again,

803
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Speaker 4: not getting it.

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Speaker 5: Jaye Daniels allowed those guys to really showcase the talents

805
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Speaker 5: because he consistently put the ball into strikes on and

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Speaker 5: I'll say that you talk about two first round talents

807
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: on the outside, they deserve credit for their contributions.

808
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Speaker 4: But make no mistake, Jayde Daniels made the offense work.

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Speaker 5: His playmaking ability as a dual threat certainly added a

810
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: mission to offense that had been pedestrian prior to his

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Speaker 5: errupt So.

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Speaker 8: We're getting to look at him taking some under center

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Speaker 8: snaps for programming those to the pro day throwing play action.

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Speaker 8: How do you feel about the different things.

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Speaker 4: That they've shown us today?

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Speaker 6: He and his QB comps table care well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's been a solid overall protage.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to the scripting, we've seen him executed

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Speaker 5: pretty well. I can't say that it's an A plus workout,

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Speaker 5: but it's been solid. We've seen the ball hit the

821
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Speaker 5: ground a few times. The thing about it is, if

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Speaker 5: you like Jaydon Dings coming in, there is nothing that's

823
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Speaker 5: taking place today.

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Speaker 4: That would discourage you from doing that. If you had

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Speaker 4: concerns about.

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Speaker 5: His frame and his durability based on what he looked

827
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Speaker 5: like when he's.

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Speaker 4: At LSU, you still gonna have those same concerns because

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Speaker 4: he's two hundred and ten pounds.

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Speaker 5: It really is a matter of being able to imagine

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Speaker 5: what could he be at his best and can we

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Speaker 5: build an offense around him that would allow him to

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Speaker 5: play to his strengths while also allowing the team to

834
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Speaker 5: stick to the identity on offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, great to hear the comments there from Buck.

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00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 2: Give you a good little insight there to what took

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Speaker 2: place at LSU. We've got one more to go. Let's

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Speaker 2: get to it right now. This is North Carolina's Pro

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Speaker 2: Day coverage again, Bucky doing a great job breaking down

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Speaker 2: what he saw from Drake May. They're very talented quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Here's what took place in Chapel Hill.

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Speaker 6: Less than a month until the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 8: We are in beautiful Chapel Hill, North Carolina for North

844
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Speaker 8: Carolina's pro day. Quarterback Drake May didn't work out, didn't

845
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Speaker 8: throw at the nfl'scounting combine. Will he solidify himself as

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Speaker 8: a top pick today at the indoor practice facility in Chapel.

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Speaker 6: Hill playing for North Carolina.

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Speaker 8: Like Bucky Brooks, Welcome into the NFL LA news from

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Speaker 8: Patrick Claybomb Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 6: We've seen Caleb last week, we saw Jayden yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Now Drake May has a chance to state his case

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Speaker 8: to be a top quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Lack. He absolutely has.

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Speaker 5: An opportunity to state his case, and he has a

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Speaker 5: strong case. And he's the prototype at the position. When

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00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: you look at Drake May, you study him size, armtown, athleticism.

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00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: High football IQ and instincts.

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Speaker 5: He is everything that quarterback coaches in offensive coordinators have

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Speaker 5: won it add the position in the National Football League

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Speaker 5: for decades.

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Speaker 4: That is why there is buzz still around his name

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Speaker 4: as a top prospect.

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Speaker 8: And so see Drake May get a chance to warm

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Speaker 8: up here as that throwing session about to get underway,

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Speaker 8: and again it's not just Drake May. Upwards of fifteen

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Speaker 8: guys from North Carolina taking part in today's pro day,

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Speaker 8: including linebacker Bar talented linebacker Cedric Gray, as well as

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Speaker 8: tes Walker, who will be prominently featured in this upcoming

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Speaker 8: throwing session by Drake May. Again well attended by a

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Speaker 8: lot of NFL staff as well as league representatives. Also,

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Speaker 8: as we see Mac Brown, they're watching his quarterback, Drake

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00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 8: May get set for this workout Bucky seventy thirles. As

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00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 8: Mike mentioned, it looks like we're going to start with

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00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 8: some smoke routes, some hitch routes, but you can't dig

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00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 8: it out for that one. Ultimately, he's going to throw

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00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 8: the ball seventy times today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a real robust workout compared to the workouts

878
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: that we've seen previously with Kayla Williams and Jay and Daniel,

879
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: those guys were right around fifty to fifty five throws.

880
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: Drake May wants to show and prove to everybody why

881
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: he was regarded as a top prospect coming into the season,

882
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: and he wants to rebuild that buzz that was around

883
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 5: his name and that.

884
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 8: Buzz of course, coming after a spectacular twenty twenty two season.

885
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 8: If you can briefly contextualize why you think there was

886
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 8: a significant drop off statistically or maybe eye test as

887
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 8: well from Drake May the year before, last year and

888
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 8: then last year.

889
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 5: Okay, so everyone has to understand in twenty twenty two,

890
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 5: he was one of only six quarterbacks since twenty ten

891
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 5: to have four thousand pass yards, thirty five past touchdowns,

892
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 5: six hundred and fifty rush yards, and seven rush touchdowns.

893
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 5: Guys like Calum Murray, Deshaun Watson, they were in that

894
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: conversation RG three, Marcus Mariota, those guys, that's what we're

895
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 5: talking about. What he was in last year, the drop off,

896
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 5: didn't have the same talent around him, had a new

897
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, and I'll be honest, I felt like he

898
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: felt the pressure of having to live up to the

899
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: expectations that kind of preceded his arrival into that final season.

900
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: Maybe he wanted to be QB one. Maybe it had

901
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: heard all the noise about Kata.

902
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: Williams and he felt like he had to do too

903
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: much because he didn't play at the same level.

904
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: That's it.

905
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 5: The talent is still there. You see the talent shows

906
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: up on tape. It's just a matter of being able

907
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: to understand why there was to fall off and as

908
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 5: a team willing to bypass that to look at the

909
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 5: trace that he brings to the table.

910
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 8: And now we're saying, Drek, still, this is not yet

911
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 8: into the script going through warm up, so actually we're

912
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 8: going to surpass seventy throws as he gets set here

913
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 8: looks like, according to the script here, which was David Morris, QB.

914
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 6: Country and folks were.

915
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 8: Kind enough to share with everybody, we're going to see

916
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 8: Tez get the majority of the targets today. And you

917
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 8: mentioned that's probably a good idea.

918
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 4: It is a good idea.

919
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 5: You want to see him throw to NFL caliber receivers

920
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: and that's not taking anything away from the guys that

921
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: are also catching passes, but you want to see that

922
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 5: because the timing is going to be most like what

923
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: he's going to do at NFL level. What we're seeing

924
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 5: early now this is like pat and goal. So these

925
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: are the layup line drills in basketball. Just have an

926
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 5: opportunity to just kind of see the form, see the

927
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 5: ball kind of get out of his hands. It's easy

928
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 5: throwing everyone who has been around Drake made everyone who

929
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: has watched his games live, you have a feel for

930
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: the velocity and the arm talent. This is an opportunity

931
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: for him to show it off in a different way

932
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: as he eases into this workout.

933
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 8: All right, it looks like we are going to get

934
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 8: to the actual script of today, starting with a couple

935
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 8: of smoke routes out showing him getting the ball out

936
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 8: of his hands pretty quickly.

937
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: Though.

938
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going see that, get the ball out of

939
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: his hands. These are the easy throws, but also the

940
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: temple with which he's working. We're gonna get a chance

941
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: to see his conditioning level because it looks like he's

942
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 5: out the gate going fast like there in an uptempole offense.

943
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: I like that because he keeps his bored. But it's

944
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: one of those things that we'll also see from him.

945
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 8: All right, we'll get to our first hitch, then another

946
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 8: one inside slam coming up the offense, Bucky Dealer's choice.

947
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 6: What are you designing an offense around Drake?

948
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 5: Well, I think he's easy because we've talked about it

949
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: from the top. Is the prototype. He's exactly what has

950
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 5: played at the position for years. On end six, four,

951
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty pounds, big time arm talent, high

952
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: IQ and intangibles. But what he also has is the

953
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: athleticism to work off the script. He can do the

954
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 5: design quarterback runs, he can scramble and make plays. So really,

955
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's wide open for him.

956
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: It says he can play in an offense that.

957
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: Any offensive coordinated designs, and that is a great thing

958
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 5: when you evaluate him as a prospect.

959
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 6: Swinging that ball out out to his left.

960
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 8: There as Drake May continues to go through his workout,

961
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 8: we also it'saw a little bit of it in a

962
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 8: few clips of Drake May using his legs.

963
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: Legs underappreciated for Drek Man, I think underappreciated. And he's

964
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: different than what I would say some of the other quarterbacks.

965
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 5: So when we talk about Jayden Dan you've talked about

966
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: he can run, but he's more of a scrambler. When

967
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 5: we see JJ mccarthur once again, it's still more of

968
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 5: a scrambler Drake May. If he wants to, he can

969
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 5: tuck it under his arm and do some of those

970
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 5: quarterback powers and things.

971
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: I wouldn't suggest it he died of it.

972
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: We've seen only a few guys that can do it

973
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 5: like a Josh Allen, but he certainly has deck Club

974
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 5: in his bag and it allows you to add dimensions

975
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: to your offense.

976
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 8: So there he hits tess coming on a slamp there

977
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 8: is We're going to take a break and get to

978
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 8: the next.

979
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 6: Section of throws.

980
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 8: Seventy throws will be and I feel like he's trying

981
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 8: to do this workout in fifteen minutes.

982
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 5: His kind of work out. He is whizzing through this

983
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: workout and he comps for Drake. Yeah, So here's what

984
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 5: I like, man.

985
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: I love like.

986
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: When I was working in the league, we would always

987
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 5: bring prospects in and ask him, who do you pad

988
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 5: of your game after? Where Drake Man said he Patterson's

989
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 5: game after Josh Allen. And I love that because you

990
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: can see that in his play, how regular he is

991
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: as a runner, the talent that he has.

992
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: And the special things that it brings to the table.

993
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 4: I believe he's more like Justin Herbert.

994
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 5: Watching Justin Herbert and how he operated at Oregon, the

995
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: way that he is transitioned to the National Football League,

996
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: that is what I would expect from Drake May. Even

997
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: though while we were talking, he had a little errant

998
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 5: pass that went well.

999
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: Over the head of the wide receiver. Okay, it happens.

1000
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, it happened, and it happened yesterday to Jayden, and

1001
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 8: we also talked about also early in the workout.

1002
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 6: It's just one of those things where you just have

1003
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: to eventually get into it. Get into it.

1004
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean I think everybody like, no matter

1005
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: how long you play like this is a pressure rising environment.

1006
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 5: Look at a number of people that are there watching.

1007
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: He understands what is riding on this workout depression. The

1008
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: butterflies can get to you. What we will expect to

1009
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 5: see him do is to settle in and you'll see

1010
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 5: that talent begin the pop.

1011
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 8: That's interesting that the hushed nature of the crowd there

1012
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 8: in the indoor facility of that ball hit the side,

1013
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 8: reverberating throughout, but it looks like he's grooven this out route.

1014
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: And then right now you can do He's just an

1015
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 4: easy thrower.

1016
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: Like the one thing that I can say about the

1017
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 5: guys that we watch at these FROW days, first with

1018
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: Kalla Williams, then with Jaden and Daniels and Drake May

1019
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 5: it is very easy for them to make these throws

1020
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: it's not a lot of they're not laborious work where

1021
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 5: they're just really having to really push it and grunt

1022
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: and put everything into it. It's easy for them, and

1023
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: as an office coordinator or a quarterback coach, you like

1024
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: that there's some things that you can work with. And

1025
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 5: also people are saying that acknowledging there's some little mechanical

1026
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: things that they can fix in terms of his footwork

1027
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: and making sure everything.

1028
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 4: Operates on time.

1029
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: But the base level, the floor skill set is absolutely

1030
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: what you desire to position.

1031
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 8: As we get into these scene passes, Drake May starting

1032
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 8: to show some not necessarily signs of fatigue, but the

1033
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 8: fact that he is working through this workout pretty quickly

1034
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 8: early reviews.

1035
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 6: But anything that would take you off Drake May.

1036
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: Today, No, nothing that would take you off. But he

1037
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: has missed a few throws and that's some of the

1038
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: stuff that shows up on tape. When you talk to

1039
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: the offensive coaches about Drake May, they talk about some

1040
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: of the things that they can fix when it comes

1041
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 5: to his footwork and everything not being tied together. That's

1042
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: what coaching is for right now. As an evaluator, what

1043
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 5: you're looking at is what is the talent, Like, what

1044
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 5: can I do with the talent? And the talent is

1045
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: there that we see an overthrow on out. This is

1046
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 5: the second out that he's overthrown by a wide margin.

1047
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: But I think that speaks some of the fundamentals that

1048
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 5: you have to work with. But remember he talked about

1049
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 5: comparing himself to Josh Allen. Maybe he's kind of leading

1050
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 5: us to the water when it comes to how Josh

1051
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: Allen was developed.

1052
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: Maybe he needs to have the same kind of developmental process.

1053
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 8: So and looking at you know, quarterbacks throwing motion from

1054
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 8: the ground up, if you're trying to evaluate as they

1055
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 8: come right back to that throw and he hits it

1056
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 8: to test, where do you draw the line between this

1057
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 8: guy has worked to get to this point or I

1058
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 8: don't know how much further I can get him, or

1059
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 8: I can fix that no metal. Oh, and I think

1060
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 8: the first thing that you're looking for is you're looking

1061
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 8: at just the natural talent. Right, So he comes in

1062
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 8: six four two thirty.

1063
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: You see that, you see when he spends that you

1064
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: can feel the velocity coming off to the ball. We've

1065
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: seen the athleticism in those days. And then Steve talked

1066
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 5: about the tangible quality leadership. So you like all of

1067
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: those things, Well, now it's about coaching, just like you

1068
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: would coach a high school kid or whatever you do.

1069
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: Here's where you start.

1070
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: Here's how we want to build from your game each

1071
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 5: and every day, and over time, those little small games

1072
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: will allow allow him to be a much better player.

1073
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: You like the prospect, Now it's about trying to figure out, well,

1074
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 5: how soon do we need our quarterback.

1075
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 4: To play, and if we have a veteran in place,

1076
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: do we have enough time to read shirt him for

1077
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: a year. All of those things come into play.

1078
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 5: So even when you draft me, if you draft him

1079
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 5: to overall, you still have to have the same plan

1080
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 5: and processing play. One of the things so you talked about,

1081
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: like when he made a mistake, he can immediately identify

1082
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 5: and then you notice he would go right back and

1083
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 5: run the same route. To me, that is the awareness

1084
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: to be able to understand what I did wrong and

1085
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 5: to the immediately self correct as a young player.

1086
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: And I think everyone has to understand this about Drake May.

1087
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: Drake May has only played two years in the last

1088
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: four years of football. Didn't play his final season of

1089
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: high school because of COVID, didn't play his freshman year

1090
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 5: because of the presidence of Sam Howe and he read shirty,

1091
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 5: so he's only played the last two years. So even

1092
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 5: though it seems that he's an older player in in

1093
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 5: the league, he's really a young player, which is why

1094
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: most would advocate for him sitting that first year to

1095
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: allow him to acclimate to the pro game, to learn

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Speaker 5: how to play at the high level while also working

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Speaker 5: on some of.

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Speaker 4: Those fundamental flaws.

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Speaker 5: Everyone has to understand the background and perspective and make

1100
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Speaker 5: sure that they build.

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00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: A plan that meets him where he is so he

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Speaker 4: can manage the expectations.

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Speaker 5: When you make a decision to take a quarterback like

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Speaker 5: a Drake may really with all quarterbacks, it should be

1105
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: an organizational decision from ownership down. Everyone has to have

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Speaker 5: a clear plan for when Drake Made's going to get

1107
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 5: on the field, how we're going to develop him, how

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00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 5: much patience we're going to show when it comes to

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00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 5: his development, and you have to get on board. We

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Speaker 5: have seen I would say the team that has been

1111
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 5: the best at developing quarterbacks over the last thirty years

1112
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Speaker 5: has been the Green Bay Packers. We saw how patient

1113
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: they were with Aaron Rodgers. It took Aaron Rodgers three

1114
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 5: years before he got into the field. It took Jordan

1115
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: Love three years before he got into the field. I'm

1116
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: not advocating that it takes Drake May three years, but

1117
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: the patients that the Green Bay Packers have exhibited has

1118
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Speaker 5: allowed their quarterbacks to seamlessly transition from the college game

1119
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 5: to the pro game.

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Speaker 4: If someone would take a similar plan with Drake May,

1121
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: I believe he will have outstanding success at the next level.

1122
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, so not just adhering to the idea of sitting,

1123
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 8: but having a plan and adhering to that plan no

1124
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 8: matter what it is, versus going into a week seven

1125
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 8: game and there's some conversation about the quarterback and you

1126
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 8: just kind of throw it.

1127
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: And so a lot of that is tied into the

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Speaker 4: head coach and how secure the head coach is at

1129
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: the position.

1130
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Speaker 5: If it's a head coach who knows he has years

1131
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 5: on his dear and knows that he has time to

1132
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 5: develop his team to develop his quarterback, well, then when

1133
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 5: the first sign of trouble, you don't throw the young

1134
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 5: quarterback into the game because the outside noise is saying

1135
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 5: So this has to be one where everyone has enough

1136
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 5: restraint to have a long term vision. We're going to

1137
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: develop this quarterback because this is the quarterback has immense

1138
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: talent and we don't make sure that he realizes his potential.

1139
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 8: But it's going to be a post coming up here

1140
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 8: in Sam I believe on a five step drop. We'll

1141
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 8: see how accurate I am.

1142
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 4: Oh, he's telling guys, clear out, Claire, I make sure

1143
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: it got room.

1144
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let this one go. That's what we want

1145
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 8: to see. Maybe we'll get some more oohs and ohs.

1146
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 8: There's the post.

1147
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, were gonna let it go. We're gonna make

1148
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: sure we aired all the way out.

1149
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 5: Solid tracking man, the solid track. Yeah, I mean, I'm

1150
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 5: assuming that he caught it. We didn't see the finish,

1151
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 5: but it sounded like he caught it.

1152
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 4: But it was a great throw. And this is the

1153
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: stuff that Drake wants.

1154
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: To show off because you want to check out, well,

1155
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 5: how much range, like, how limitless is his range?

1156
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: Is he a guy?

1157
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 5: Okay, So yesterday the other day we talked about Jaydon

1158
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 5: Dennils and we talked about he's an intermediate playmaker.

1159
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: He does his work, he can throw it deep, but

1160
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: is different with Drake May.

1161
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 5: We're just talking about the raw talent being able to

1162
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 5: push it down the field, but that changes now a

1163
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 5: run based offense with vertical passing, game off play action,

1164
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 5: he really can attack and get you those explosive plays.

1165
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 5: You're trying to take all of that information in as

1166
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: you're watching him, You're also trying to imagine what kind

1167
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 5: of offense can I build.

1168
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 4: Around his talent?

1169
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 5: And so it's easy to sell a guy like Drake

1170
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 5: may when the talent pops like that, they can live

1171
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 5: with some of the mistakes and the miscues because.

1172
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: The talent is at a high level. You're hearing that,

1173
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: and that is why he.

1174
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 5: May be drafted ahead of other guys who are more productive,

1175
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: because the projection is serious when it comes to being

1176
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 5: a high level player.

1177
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 8: And as Steve mentioned, Drake checked his watch and there's

1178
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 8: time that was it roll into us right, one leg

1179
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 8: fadeaway ball to test that goes and taps them up.

1180
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 8: You know, as we get closer to the finish here,

1181
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 8: let's discuss his footwork because I mean, of course, on

1182
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 8: a one leg fade away, what can you do? But

1183
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 8: it's the other stuff. How do you feel that he's

1184
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 8: doing that well?

1185
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: I mean, today it's fine, but we've seen some of

1186
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 5: the We've seen the good stuff that we love, but

1187
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 5: we also seen the bad stuff. Like so it hasn't coordinated.

1188
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 5: We've seen some air and throws and that stuff. But

1189
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 5: guess what, that's what coaches are for. Coaches are most

1190
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 5: prospects coming to the league with flaws. Coaches jobs are

1191
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: to kind of rectify some of the flaws and put

1192
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: them in a position to play at their best. The

1193
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: stuff that we're seeing from Drake may a lot of

1194
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: it is correctable. So if I am a team builder,

1195
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: if I am a quarterback coach and offensive coordinator, I'm

1196
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 5: excited about what could be and you have to focus

1197
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 5: on the possibilities more so than the deficiencies. Because of

1198
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 5: the possibilities with a guy as talented as he is significant.

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Speaker 4: Look, man, he has unbelievable talent.

1200
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 5: Now it's about harnessing it and trying to put it

1201
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 5: in the system that allows him the flourish.

1202
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Speaker 3: As welcome you inside the broadcast booth here from the

1203
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas. Great to

1204
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: be here with you for the first of its kind,

1205
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: a conference wide pro day. This is the Big twelve

1206
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: Pro Day byan Rett lewis here with Lee draft danelist

1207
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah. Maybe we'll share our Day one draft desk

1208
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: in Detroit with him.

1209
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Charles Davis, guys, great to be here with you and DJ.

1210
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: Imagine the former scout in You also see some real

1211
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: benefits to getting every school together for this conference White

1212
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: Protect Yah.

1213
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Speaker 2: You think of all the travel that goes along with scouting.

1214
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: So from a convenience standpoint, you know scouts are gonna

1215
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: dig this having everybody here at one spot. And I

1216
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: think also for the teams, Charles, it makes sense. Sometimes

1217
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a down year, which might mean you

1218
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: don't get as much turnout at your individual pro day. Well,

1219
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: you have a down year here, it doesn't matter the

1220
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: entire NFL. The entire league is here to watch.

1221
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 9: And let's face it, everyone is here for himself, right.

1222
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 9: We all are here to be the best we can be.

1223
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 9: But there is something about the sport of football that

1224
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 9: lends itself to camaraderie. And when you have your whole

1225
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 9: conference here, right, everyone says our conference is better than

1226
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 9: your conference. Here's an opportunity for them to shine as

1227
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 9: a group, while of course extending yourself your best to

1228
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 9: the best of your abilities as an individual.

1229
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: So, Daniel Jeremiah, as we assess impact players today, who

1230
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: stands out team?

1231
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 4: Well?

1232
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: First of all, they all ran forty, So who ran

1233
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: faster Xavier White? They did a nice job ripping off

1234
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: a mid four four forty, which was impressive to see.

1235
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: When you're a wide receiver, you want that to be

1236
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: your calling card. Texas Tech, who's had some great testers

1237
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: over the years, He's next in line here as you

1238
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: watch him go through the field workout, So solid day

1239
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: for Xavier White, start with that forty time and then

1240
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: after him to me, you look at Javon Baker who

1241
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: had a really nice day with the field workout. Didn't

1242
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: get a chance to see him run the forty. He

1243
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: did all that at the combine, but I thought he

1244
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: was clearly the cleanest route runner we had.

1245
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: On the workout on the field. Yeah, he got a

1246
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 3: little extra work in. We'll get to that here in

1247
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: just a second. But CD, as far as impact players

1248
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: for you, what caught your eye?

1249
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Daniel talked about it.

1250
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: How fast can you run the forty?

1251
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 9: That catches your eye if you're a wide receiver, but

1252
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 9: even if you're not, the fastest guy there. Can you

1253
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 9: run fast enough to continue to keep my interest?

1254
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: Yes? And I thought that two guys did that, Dimitri.

1255
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 9: Stanley out of Iowa State and Philip Brooks out of

1256
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 9: Kansas State. Both of them ran into low four fives,

1257
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 9: all right. And what I really caught my eyes there

1258
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 9: fact that they both can return the football. And didn't

1259
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 9: we just get a new kickoff over the NFL?

1260
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: We did?

1261
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 9: So guess what the return guy still has value, whether

1262
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 9: it's putt return, kick return, the whole deal. Both of

1263
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 9: them well muscled, well compacted. I just like the fact

1264
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 9: that they're running low four fives, can catch the ball

1265
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 9: for you if you need him as a receiver, and

1266
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 9: maybe they make their way as return guys in the NFL.

1267
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Then we mentioned Brooks getting a little bit extra work.

1268
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 3: That was because he was out there with his former

1269
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: quarterback at UCF, John Rice Plumbley, who after permission to

1270
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: run an extra throwing session, was granted by the Big twelve,

1271
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: so he put up an extra fifty throws or so,

1272
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 3: kind of more like a traditional school pro day. So

1273
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: he was able to get a little bit extra work

1274
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: in and impress some of the scouts and evaluators in attendance.

1275
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do it. I hope you

1276
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: guys got a chance to get a little flavor there

1277
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: of what went down with those quarterback pro days. We

1278
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: talked about JJ McCarthy's Pro Day on an earlier episode

1279
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: this week. If you haven't heard that, go back and

1280
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: check that one out, as well as the conversation and

1281
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: the fun exercise we did with the offensive players only

1282
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: mock draft. That gets us to what's coming your way

1283
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: next week. Starting on Monday, we will have the defense

1284
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: only mock draft coming your way. Also, want to remind

1285
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: you if you get a chance, you can check out

1286
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: the Big twelve Pro Day coverage on NFL Network is

1287
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: from March twenty seventh through the thirty first on NFL Network.

1288
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us. Appreciate you guys hanging

1289
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Speaker 2: out with us. We'll see you next time right here

1290
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Speaker 2: on Move the Sticks.