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Speaker 1: It's the gym of the Guardians. Mike tearing off joining

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Speaker 1: us right now. Mike, really appreciate the time. How's spring

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Speaker 2: It's great, you know what, seeing the sun and being

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Speaker 3: It's you know.

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Speaker 2: One of the amazing things in coming down here to

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Speaker 4: When did you get here?

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Speaker 3: I got here about a week and a half yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got here as early as I could, about

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Speaker 2: a week and a half ago. My family's back in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: But you get here and there was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: one hundred players between major and minor league guys. Our

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Speaker 2: we have such a young team.

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Speaker 3: It's a huge factor for us. So that's been great

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Speaker 3: to see.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, this is real quick. He wanted to point

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Speaker 1: out the outfit he did the gym.

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Speaker 3: You guys like that every gym.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as you get the job, they just

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Speaker 2: get of them in all different colors.

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Speaker 4: Yes, say here, wear this every day.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but I say, I tell people this, We

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Speaker 4: joke about this. It's the for the men. It's the

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Speaker 4: sun dress for men. You can wear it unfancy, you

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Speaker 4: can wear it fancy, you can wear golfing. You wear

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Speaker 4: it at the beach, wear it at spring training, wear

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Speaker 4: it in the front office. It does everything. It's a

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Speaker 4: it's a utility player.

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Speaker 5: I like McDonald.

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Speaker 4: It's the John McDonald of men's wear.

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Speaker 3: The twelve year veteran utility players.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't it Yep, field cord.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 6: And it looks and it looks nice. It's good, Mike.

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Speaker 6: When I was with the organization in twenty seventeen, I

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Speaker 6: that you guys set it up so that your players

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Speaker 6: on like on Thanksgiving Day, on Christmas Day, and like

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Speaker 6: have you have Turkey Camp. You have Jay Camp, which

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Speaker 6: It's a very deliberate thing. But do you guys feel

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Speaker 6: like other organizations are like, Man, those guys are dumb

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Speaker 6: for doing that. And I think you guys get so

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Speaker 6: much value out of it because you're investing in your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first off, Eric, great to see you, man.

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Speaker 4: But were you around when he was Yeah, when you fired.

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Speaker 3: Him, I'm probably the same as what it is today.

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Speaker 3: But Chris is about me. It was all Chris's fault.

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Speaker 3: It was all Chris's fault.

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Speaker 6: We'll get We'll get to that in a sec. You

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Speaker 6: firing me in a second.

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Speaker 3: It's a competitive advantage for us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, we are a young team where we're

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Speaker 3: We have to do things differently.

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Speaker 2: We're a small market and in today economic environment in baseball,

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Speaker 2: we can't go out and sign top tier free agents.

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Speaker 3: It's just impossible with the economic landscape.

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Speaker 2: So we have to do it through scouting and development,

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Speaker 2: and a huge part of that, as you guys all

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Speaker 2: know from your playing careers is your off season. You

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Speaker 3: How do you whether it's a physical.

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Speaker 6: So it's one of those It's one of those things

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Speaker 6: You guys do it by far. I've always said the

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Speaker 6: you guys would lose a competitive advantage. But we'll get

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Speaker 6: to it. Don't tell anybody else all the stuff, I

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Speaker 6: won't tell anybody else, Okay, But getting to the whole

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Speaker 6: got trades.

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Speaker 4: Shit.

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Speaker 6: By the way, we gotta wear helmets.

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Speaker 7: An feet behind the.

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Speaker 4: But that's not even like who just needs need to

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Speaker 4: be testing. I saw the testers here earlier. Whoever hit

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Speaker 6: All that to say, one of my greatest prognostication moments

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Speaker 6: was you guys traded me to the Yankees, and you

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Speaker 6: And do you remember in seventeen who knocked the Guardians

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Speaker 4: You cursed us? How about?

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 7: You traded me.

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Speaker 6: I want every p of the trip a team, and

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Speaker 6: you traded me. So I blame you, guys. So anybody

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Speaker 3: That's a good story.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 7: That is good. I like it.

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Speaker 4: That's funny. All right. I want to go on something

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Speaker 4: you talked about you mentioned it. I don't know, I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: As a GM of a small market team, small market,

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Speaker 4: here's your payroll, of your your budget one hundred and whatever,

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Speaker 4: But what's it like when you call free agents? Because

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Speaker 4: you do guys? Do you guys do sign for agents?

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Speaker 4: And you say, hey, look you know we won the

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Speaker 4: we have Jose, We need you to come. Can you

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Speaker 4: take do you go at? Can you take a million? Less?

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Speaker 7: Can?

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Speaker 4: Right? How does that work? Because that it's got to

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Speaker 4: it's not your fault to hand your dealt but you've

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Speaker 4: done a great job of it. So how do you

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Speaker 2: I mean, first things first, we know who we are,

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Speaker 2: we have a lot of players that love being here

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Speaker 2: it's some of the relievers that we sign, some of

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Speaker 3: This is a fun place to play.

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Speaker 2: And look, you can stack up payrolls as much as

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Speaker 2: you want, but we don't make excuses about payrolls. Over

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Speaker 2: the past ten years, we've been to the postseason seven times,

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Speaker 2: so that we don't. We are stacking ourselves up on wins,

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Speaker 2: We look to compliment the team with great people and

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Speaker 2: great players, but it's the internal people here. It's the

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Speaker 4: I absolutely, absolutely love that answer is al Central guy

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Speaker 4: you are and you're like, we're going to figure this out,

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Speaker 4: and you're competitive and you want to win. But the

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Speaker 2: He sets the standard and he's the example. And for

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Speaker 2: and it's incredible and I'm so thankful for our ownership

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Speaker 1: you did this offseason? And I asked this question nowadays,

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Speaker 4: But you know, you were nervous, right, oh man. You

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Speaker 3: That had a huge impact.

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Speaker 4: That you just called him a veteran. He's got like

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Speaker 4: the one thing about the Guardians is they're known to

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Speaker 4: Let's us know all the time. He says, that's why

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Speaker 2: That's not there you go, right, But we have we

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Speaker 2: We provided opportunities for Kyle Manzardo, Cjkafis, George Valera, P. D. Halp,

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Speaker 1: All Right, I got two for you to finish up here.

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Speaker 1: So one is a fan question, and we've had quite

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited about Travis's future. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: It was hugely important to him, even in thinking about

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Speaker 2: Once he gets back, we'll make sure we get him

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Speaker 3: And we don't ever set timetables on players, so.

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Speaker 4: Now you can't say he's coming up in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we are looking for great players to impact

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Speaker 4: It's the sets the GM talk.

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Speaker 2: Here's what we tell players. It's two things. One your

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Speaker 6: All right, Last one, no more on field stuff. Like

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Speaker 2: It's a great point, Eric, I mean that hit us hard.

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Speaker 2: Look Colt, Like you said, we have to separate ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I mean, our guys were pissed, they were not happy.

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Speaker 2: Still, every time I read anything about it, I'm cringing.

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Speaker 4: Date I give I give a Voter so much credit.

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Speaker 3: I'll have no doubt about it. Voter is a huge

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Speaker 2: You lose the guy who is maybe the highest performing

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Speaker 7: So Mike's going from intern.

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Speaker 4: He's at GM now. Now he's just got to get

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Speaker 4: Chris Antonetti, his crats, his buddy to step aside, and

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Speaker 3: And I've been trying to knock him off to the sacrom.

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Speaker 4: He just won't leave. You guys seem to have a

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Speaker 1: And see that's good. All the interns that reach out

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Speaker 1: to get you for some time here in person, for

443
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Speaker 1: aj out of camp. Thanks for having us there for

444
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Speaker 1: the day and good luck this season.

445
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Speaker 3: Thank you guys, great talking with you.

446
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 4: We got the big rig here. Gavin Williams, you had

447
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 4: my muted Mark. Every time Mark touches something, it goes

448
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 4: to hell here. So just keep Mark away from everything,

449
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 4: okay in your life if you possible. Well, we got

450
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 4: the big rig here. Gavin Williams. You had an unbelievable

451
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 4: second half. If you didn't see Gavin Williams numbers last year,

452
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 4: check him out, boys and girls, because he had an

453
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Speaker 4: unbelievable season, almost to a no hitter, almost almost got

454
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Speaker 4: the We talked to you about it, and just an

455
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Speaker 4: unbelievable season for you, especially the second half. What I'm

456
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 4: just gonna dig what change?

457
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 5: Honestly starting from uh, I think it was the Giants series,

458
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 5: went in there on the off day to a pen,

459
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 5: worked on a little bit of delivery stuff, added the

460
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 5: cutter back. I think that's when we started throwing the

461
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 5: cutter a little bit more and then started the sinker

462
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Speaker 5: I think halfway right before the halfway point. Honestly, just

463
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 5: it opened up the holes one for me, open the

464
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 5: top opened the bottom outer half, helped.

465
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Speaker 6: Out a lot, Kevin, Was that the moment or was

466
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Speaker 6: that the second half that you were like, Oh, finally

467
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Speaker 6: I can hear people stop saying so much potential. He's

468
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Speaker 6: got so much potential. Was that annoying to you because

469
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 6: I never had anybody say that I had potential, So

470
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Speaker 6: I have no idea what that's like.

471
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Speaker 5: Honestly, I wasn't hearing that too much. I try to

472
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 5: stay off of social media as much as possible. I

473
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 5: don't really care what other people say or anything like that.

474
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Speaker 5: I try to do what I can do and what

475
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Speaker 5: I can control. At any point, you.

476
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Speaker 4: Mentioned like what you change and what you did we

477
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: started throwing strikes? Was that finely but not finally? But

478
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: it's not like you went out there. You know, every

479
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 4: person from little league to the big leagues just throw

480
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Speaker 4: a strike. It's not like you're not trying to throw

481
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Speaker 4: a strike. For sure, the mentality change. Did something change

482
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Speaker 4: in your mechanics?

483
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Speaker 5: I think I was just frustrated with myself at the beginning,

484
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Speaker 5: Like the first half, I would say, I was trying

485
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: to go through some delivery changes, and then it finally

486
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: clicked and that that one off day throwing the pen.

487
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 5: So I think when when it finally clicked, everything just

488
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 5: came together for me.

489
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Speaker 4: It happened like that, right, Yeah.

490
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Speaker 5: Honestly I did much needed.

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the voter didn't sit you down, Carl Willis didn't

492
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Speaker 4: sit you down. It was just inside yourself.

493
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Speaker 5: That And I think the All Star break really helped

494
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 5: me out with like a little reset that those four

495
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Speaker 5: days just get my mind away from the game. It

496
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Speaker 5: really helped out.

497
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Speaker 6: Are you competitive?

498
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I say so. I tried not to show it

499
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Speaker 5: as much. I don't want to get too frustrated with myself.

500
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Speaker 5: I think at times I try to be too perfect

501
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Speaker 5: with things, and I don't want to get too frustrated

502
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 5: with myself and bring it out where other people can.

503
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 5: Other people can see that.

504
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 6: Okay, because we see how we see how emotional Tanner

505
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Speaker 6: can get. Do you tell him to like relax because

506
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 6: we look at your demeanor and I assume you're really competitive?

507
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 6: Kind of rhetorical question. I assumed that. But you look

508
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 6: at his demeanor and he's like, wow, man, oh this

509
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 6: and that and everything, and then you talk to him

510
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 6: he's like, yeah, you know what, I'm just trying my best.

511
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 6: Do you calm him down or do you try to,

512
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Speaker 6: like prode the horse a little bit.

513
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Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of both. Uh, everybody's different.

514
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 5: I try to get on him a little bit, try

515
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: to poke at him, stab at him with anything that

516
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 5: I can, uh, And most of the time he just

517
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 5: laughs at it with anything I say to him. Do

518
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 5: you guys have the biggest pitching staff in the league

519
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 5: like I was, and like Thigh, I think the whole

520
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 5: like staff period. We got some big bodies and on

521
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Speaker 5: the whole staff.

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Occasionally Goddess, Goddess just sat of here. You Biby's

523
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 4: not small. People will look at Biby be like he's

524
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Speaker 4: the little guy.

525
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

526
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Speaker 4: Stuff.

527
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Speaker 5: I mean you got Sean Armstrong now, yeah, I mean Joey.

528
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 5: Joey's pretty big too. Yeah, I mean I got a

529
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 5: huge staff. You guys ever thought about picking up basketball?

530
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: I mean in the off season, clearly? I mean I

531
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 5: was a center in middle school, seventh grade center.

532
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Speaker 4: Middle school?

533
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, one year.

534
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Speaker 1: What happened after that?

535
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 5: No, not at all. He played a couple of games

536
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 5: and I was out.

537
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Speaker 7: That was it.

538
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Speaker 1: So you didn't do high school? And were you bigger

539
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Speaker 1: than everyone in middle school? And then I will no

540
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: one ever really catches up bigger than everybody.

541
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Speaker 5: I know, I was not bigger than everybody in middle school.

542
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 5: I was like the little guy. I was like five foot,

543
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 5: four hundred pounds. It looked like I was like a

544
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Speaker 5: little bowling ball. So when did your height hit, like

545
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: junior or high school? Did you go like six eight inches, yeah,

546
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 5: something like that. I think it was like six foot gone, yeah,

547
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Speaker 5: six seventh. It was like six foot going in the

548
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Speaker 5: high school, and then by the end of it was

549
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Speaker 5: like six sixty five sixty six.

550
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Speaker 4: Oh wow. And then is that when you started getting

551
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: recruited and all that. Yeah, honestly I started getting recruited

552
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: sophomore you're high school, but I was playing different positions

553
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: obviously didn't finally hit I think it was ninety four

554
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: y five on the gun, and that ended all the

555
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Speaker 4: other positions.

556
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Speaker 5: Yeah, worked out for me.

557
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're six five and you throw ninety five.

558
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Speaker 4: He went, he went to the rig went to East Carolina.

559
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: I have to go to East Carolina in a couple

560
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: of weeks. My son plays at UAB Okay, so I

561
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: know this is way off topics. The best place ever.

562
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Speaker 4: You'll have fun East Carolina. Yeah, okay, go to the

563
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: jungle South. So, Okay, where do I eat though?

564
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 5: I mean, what do you want to eat? Good anything?

565
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 5: There's a hole in the wall. It's called Bee's Barbecue.

566
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Speaker 5: I got to get there pretty early though. Insane barbecue.

567
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 5: Love it. Obviously you got the staple sub Dogs. Everybody's

568
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 5: got to go to sub Dogs. Yeah, get a get

569
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: a few adult beverages if you want. Yes, I don't

570
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 5: know if I can say that, but I don't care.

571
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 5: You can say whatever you want.

572
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: Get a couple of those and have.

573
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 4: A good day, okay, and then go to the jungle.

574
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 5: Go to the jungle.

575
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: Get on me if I'm wearing. It's just helping who

576
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: you are. Yeah, I'm not going to walk around, but

577
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 4: we're Gavin Williams Jersey where they know who I am?

578
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: Or Tray you.

579
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 5: Savage, Tray you Savage. They might jump on your back

580
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 5: for that thing.

581
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Speaker 6: That's what I was gonna ask. That's what I was

582
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 6: gonna ask. Now, obviously college baseball just started. You sit there.

583
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Speaker 6: I assume you at least check on some of the

584
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Speaker 6: game scores. Do you follow a guy like Trey You

585
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Speaker 6: Savage or or some of your ex teammates that are

586
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 6: playing in the league, and you go okay. I kind

587
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 6: of like it when they do well, even not against us,

588
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 6: but I like watching them and like pay attention to

589
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Speaker 6: where they're at.

590
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I'm always watching any kind of easy

591
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 5: you guys and checking up and checking up on them, uh,

592
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 5: seeing how how they're doing. I mean, opens up the

593
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: mat for easty you and shows guys that there's products

594
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 5: that come out of you.

595
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Speaker 4: See you by the way you see how they did

596
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 4: this weekend?

597
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: That terrible. Yep, I don't want to talk about it.

598
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 4: One of my best friend's kids plays at Zavy. We

599
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: had a great weekend really, so we won't talk. We

600
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: want to talk about good place.

601
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're keeping up. You're a big college baseball fan,

602
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: and if so, like where where do you think the

603
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: game is at right now? Like the state of college baseball?

604
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it's a good point. I think that

605
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: I think the game is growing in all aspects. I

606
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 5: think there's so many more people watching the game now,

607
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 5: and I mean you bring in the pitchclock and more

608
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: people are watching because games are going by quicker. So

609
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 5: I think it's at a good point right now.

610
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: I agree. And do you think the money helps? I

611
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: mean Seriously, guys have a lot more reason to stay,

612
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: and for some of them, if the financial reasons are important,

613
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: they can maybe wait a year to get the big

614
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Speaker 1: signing bonus from the draft.

615
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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I think money play is a lot

616
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 5: in anything. Really. I think anytime you get paid doing anything,

617
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 5: everybody's going to stick around and try to stay as

618
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 5: long as possible.

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Speaker 3: How much did you get zero?

620
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Speaker 5: I wish I got paid.

621
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Speaker 1: I wish it wasn't there yet, right, did you just

622
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: miss it the cutoff?

623
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Speaker 6: How much have you gotten now? Though this is this

624
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 6: is the game that everybody plays, like, how much would

625
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 6: you have gotten? As in the fact that you were

626
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: a first rounder they would have won. Did you keep

627
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 6: you around? Were you loyal to ECU? Because I heard

628
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 6: the guys who aren't loyal to the school, they're the

629
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Speaker 6: ones that get to pay the most because they're like,

630
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 6: I'm gone, I'm going to the highest bidder.

631
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Speaker 5: Yeah, loyalty right now isn't a thing. It's whoever is

632
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: going to get the most money. And I'd say I

633
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: was pretty loyal to you. See you. I bleed purple

634
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 5: and golden. I love it. I live I live there

635
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 5: in the all season now I go back there and

636
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: work out. I try to do as much as possible

637
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 5: for them and I I don't think there's a doll

638
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: figure for me to stay there. I loved it so much.

639
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

640
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Speaker 1: They can backpay too, if they want. They can backpay

641
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: you a little bit.

642
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

643
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: Maybe for the back pay, I got like nine dollars.

644
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 7: My bad.

645
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: There you go. Hey, there it is work out stuff, right.

646
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, try to get a little bit more next time.

647
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 4: That's fair. That's fair. By the way, he's from he's

648
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: from Cape Fear, and I have to know. I have

649
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: to know he's from Cape Fear, North Carolina. There's a

650
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: there was a very famous movie. Have you seen Kate

651
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: Fear of the movie?

652
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 5: I have not.

653
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 4: You've never seen that.

654
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 5: Not a big movie guy.

655
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but it's about the town you're from.

656
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a Well, there was one in.

657
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Speaker 4: Like the sixties, but they remade it like hold on.

658
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: I was just looking at ninety one with de Niro.

659
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: You know where Robert de Niro is. No, God, I

660
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: think it's pretty bad. I don't know many actors anyways,

661
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: watch it first.

662
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: I was born in ninety nine.

663
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Speaker 4: No, I know what's still like? People go back Man's

664
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: Morning two thousand and seven, and he's going back and

665
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: watching like all the top one hundred listed movies. You know,

666
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: so I figure, but if there was a movie made

667
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 4: about my hometown, I would watch it just to know

668
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: what people thought of my hometown.

669
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 7: You gotta rent it.

670
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: It's not on I'm looking for you now, It's not

671
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: on any of the platforms. It looks I mean it is,

672
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: but you gotta rent it.

673
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 5: It's like AVD.

674
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: It's basically like I mean ninety one. He knows a DVD.

675
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: No de Niro, but a DVD he's got. You gotta

676
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: rent it.

677
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 5: Do they even make v players more?

678
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: I have one you can buy, though.

679
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 5: I don't want to buy it.

680
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: You don't watch. You don't you don't watch movies? What

681
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 6: do you do? What's your What I watch?

682
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: I watched seq one ever heard of it? So it's

683
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: Lee Ellis hunting hunt channel on YouTube. Pretty awesome. I

684
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: love it.

685
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 6: So you would live and breathe hunting if you weren't pitching,

686
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 6: you would You would hunt and hunt until you can't

687
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: hunt anymore.

688
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: For sure, I would do the same thing he's he's doing.

689
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: Get all the cameras, a little crew and go out.

690
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: And do that, so he'd be a creator influencer.

691
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: I try to do you try to I would try

692
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 5: to if Yeah, I just bought my first belt, so

693
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get Matthew's car thirty four, so I'm

694
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 5: trying to get into that. But usually just gun.

695
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: Okay, favorite thing.

696
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

697
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: I went hog hunting for the first time this all season,

698
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 5: like thermals and stuff. That was that was pretty sick.

699
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 5: But deer duck on those are my my two go tos.

700
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: Listen, I love it. Yeah, I do it. I've done it.

701
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: You gotta get Yeah, it's it's a different it's a

702
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: different it's a different animal.

703
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: That's what I heard. Try to get into that.

704
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: But when you're when you're retired, you have plenty of

705
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: time to do it.

706
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 5: Do it all the time, absolutely.

707
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: All right, bad thing, yeah, Gavin. When so you've got

708
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: whatever ten years like whatever you want to do left

709
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: and then you hit us up and we'll help you

710
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: set up the YouTube channel.

711
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 5: Perfect y'all. Y'all got all the gameras it looks like

712
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: right here.

713
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: And we've got to figure it out. Yeah, so hit

714
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: us up. Well, we'll be following in the meantime. But

715
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: good luck.

716
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: Thanks having one more question, Hold on before you goes

717
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: to have one more question. We had my churn off

718
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: sit down here. Okay, right, we've had relievers. Are the

719
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: first starter we've had here so far. Who's the opening

720
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: day starter?

721
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 5: Whoever they want to be, doesn't matter who it is

722
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: it matter to you, doesn't matter as long as that

723
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 5: pitch doesn't matter. I want to win games, that's all.

724
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: That's all that matters to me.

725
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: But Bibby, if it was Biby, if it was you,

726
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: or whoever.

727
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 5: It was Joe La doesn't matter all right.

728
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: I forgot we had slate too, so I guess sleep.

729
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 5: Laser or the starter. Yeah, win's a win to me.

730
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter where you pitch as long as you win.

731
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair.

732
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 5: I think we all got one goal in our minds,

733
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: and that's the win a World Series. Doesn't matter matter

734
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: how you get there.

735
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: And make it a little easier on yourselves this year.

736
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Don't do the whole Oh we're gonna be fifteen and

737
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: a half back and then we're just gonna dance our

738
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: way right back to the division again.

739
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 5: We're not talking the fun part.

740
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, you did make it fun. That story was crazy. Dude,

741
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: we're looking We're like, oh look Cleveland. Now they're eight

742
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: and a half. Oh they're set. Whoa. That was incredible.

743
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: It was really fun to watch. I mean, you know

744
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: sometimes that the races can get a little slow and

745
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: boring if teams are way ahead. But now I'm going

746
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: to look at them differently because of you guys.

747
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 5: For sure. I mean that that was a fun time

748
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 5: just sitting in the dugout watching it. I mean, you

749
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: get ten games back, you get five games back, and

750
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, we're actually about to do this. I mean,

751
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: I have no words for it, but it was. It

752
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: was awesome to watch.

753
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: It was really cool, some awesome memories. Well, Gavin, thanks

754
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: for joining us.

755
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 7: Man.

756
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Good chatting with you, and we'll see

757
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: you during the season.

758
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you all having me. I'm gonna let him

759
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: introduce himself here, just slay.

760
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: We've had on before, right, But he just he went

761
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: to shake my hand and I just need him to

762
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: go pick a no, no, not your left hand, your

763
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: right hand on dirty.

764
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 9: This thing is I just got straight off the field

765
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 9: on dirty like hey, but he touched it.

766
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 7: It isn't sticky spider.

767
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: Is that is that the Guardian? Is that what it is?

768
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 7: From a couple of moons ago? Maybe? But it was uh,

769
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 7: it was uh the hair Joel.

770
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

771
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 7: It was beard bomb. That's why I started growing one.

772
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: Out Delaware mud. Yeah. But he went to shake my hand.

773
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not touching that thing dirty.

774
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 7: It is sanitized.

775
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: Allegedly that's worse. Actually, that just moves the germs around

776
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: instead of actually killing.

777
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 7: You're talking about being an old time when you're worried

778
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 7: about germs.

779
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 4: I don't want no flu from you. It was on

780
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: that ball house camp going so far. We were just

781
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: talking about stretching. We saw you guys out here stretching.

782
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: Did you do anything today other than stretch your days over?

783
00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 7: Uh?

784
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 9: I stretched, I threw, I did a little shadow work

785
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 9: on the mound, and now I'm here and then I

786
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 9: go home. It's pretty easy for the first you know,

787
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 9: first few weeks you should have been pittocrats.

788
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. It's eleven o'clock. He's like,

789
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm already done, and then it get on the field

790
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: till nine thirty.

791
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I mean the days where you don't get

792
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 9: on the mound as a picture. It's kind of like

793
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 9: you gotta find stuff to do. That's why so many

794
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 9: of us like playing cards just killed time.

795
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 6: I mean I always asked this position players wish we're

796
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 6: over at Royals camp yesterday and we talked to Jack

797
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 6: Cagle one who threw a hundred from the left side,

798
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 6: and it's like, do you ever look at pictures and go, man,

799
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 6: their life must suck. Do you ever look at position

800
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: players and go, man, their life must suck. They have

801
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 6: to do all this stuff that doesn't doesn't look as

802
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 6: fun as being a picture.

803
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 9: I think it looks more fun than being a picture,

804
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 9: but it's way more difficult.

805
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 7: It's way more fun.

806
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 9: But it's also like I'm impressed every day with what

807
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 9: some of these guys can do. Like I watched these

808
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 9: guys turn around Hunter moin our heaters, like on day one,

809
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 9: It's like, how how are you?

810
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 7: How do you show up ready to do that? But

811
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 7: they're just built different.

812
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: Now do you?

813
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: What do you do? Then it's eleven o'clock, you're gonna

814
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: go in, You're gonna I'm assuming you're gonna take a shower.

815
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I stick around here for a while.

816
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 9: I like watching the bullpens, watching the live vps. I'm

817
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 9: still a self proclaimed pitching nerd, so I like looking

818
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 9: at all the metrics on everything.

819
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 4: You have a trash talker, do you sit behind like

820
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: the same vps and your boys are out there?

821
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 9: I don't know, Oh yeah, I'll say yes, be it

822
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 9: on a on a check swing like I'm I'm playing umpire.

823
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: Ticket or you like I got you?

824
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, they yell when they hit homers. I got

825
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 7: a yelling. I guy punches somebody out.

826
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: Okay, I can live with that art then, so you're

827
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 4: out of here by eleven thirty. Then after all that

828
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: nonsense is done, So then what.

829
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 7: Usually I would try to fish?

830
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 9: I do that Arizona exactly. If you want to go

831
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 9: catch karp, you can go to the community pond with

832
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 9: some bread. But like that gets old pretty quick.

833
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 7: You know. I've tried a few times.

834
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: Hyaking on your Instagram and all that.

835
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 7: I don't have the kayak out here.

836
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 9: If I did, i'd be going going down the Salt

837
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 9: River a couple of times a week.

838
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 7: But it's a lot to ship that thing out.

839
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: There's like a Dicks over there.

840
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, but then they got to sell it before I

841
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 7: leave or bring it with me, and.

842
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: You're smart, you can just leave it here and next

843
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: year you use the same one.

844
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 7: You This is a veteran right here.

845
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: Florida, Florida, Miami.

846
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Hang it on, Miami.

847
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 7: Isn't Miami? Isn't it's own like place?

848
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 6: When you when you watch up.

849
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: School, public school?

850
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, whatever, that's private.

851
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 4: Come on, I didn't go there, doctor Phillips.

852
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 7: Maybe they went to doctor Phillips.

853
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: No, I went to you.

854
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, Harvard, Correctly, it's.

855
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: More like Harvard Princeton combined of the cell.

856
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Got it, Orlando.

857
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 6: When you watch when you're your day is done, Your

858
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: day is done. Now we already hit on that plenty.

859
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 6: When you's the minor leaguers, which are all the dudes

860
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: that are walking by to the clover leaf, do you say, man,

861
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 6: I want to tell those guys what? Like, what's the

862
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: one thing you'd want to tell them now that you

863
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 6: are an established big leaguer.

864
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 9: I would say, be excited when you fail. Get excited

865
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 9: by failure, because baseball is a game of failure, and

866
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 9: the longer you play it, the more you're going to fail.

867
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 9: And every time you fail, that's just another opportunity for

868
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 9: you to learn something that's going to make you better

869
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 9: the next time you play.

870
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 7: So I think that's the biggest thing.

871
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: By the way, I prouds. I have to say this.

872
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: You mentioned the minor leaguers walking by, So the big

873
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: leaguers here have different jerseys, so he doesn't have his jersey,

874
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: but it's a clear difference on the back right, which

875
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: is fine. But I didn't know that my is minor

876
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: league camp already started.

877
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 7: I don't think it's officially okay kicking off.

878
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: Because it's very obvious who are the big leaguers and

879
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: newer the support players, which is the minor league guys

880
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 4: here for big league camp. Because even when you guys

881
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: were stretching, you're like, this side was big leaguers, that

882
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: side was different.

883
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 9: It's like the full like lettering and then the white

884
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 9: lettering is what they do. I know some teams do

885
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 9: like gray pants white pants. I think it's more of

886
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 9: just an organizational thing.

887
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: Looking like a higher round upon them. Well, no, before

888
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: you talk to somebody, you say.

889
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 7: Oh on, let me see waiting, do you have no?

890
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 7: I wore that lettering for a lot longer enough one

891
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 7: than the new lettering.

892
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: So, hey, when'd you work on this offseason? What's your

893
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: relationship like with your pitching repertoire heading into camp.

894
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you're going to see as many

895
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 9: big differences as you saw last year with my not

896
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 9: only rep so I wrote my mechanics, everything's going to

897
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 9: look very similar. We worked on sharpening up some of

898
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 9: the off speed, just as you're probably gonna hear every

899
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 9: picture say at this point, sharpening their secondary stuff and

900
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 9: looking to get more more chase and more and more

901
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 9: weak contact with that stuff, and also sharpening up the

902
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 9: attack plan and figuring out what are my weak contact

903
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 9: pitches that I use early in the accunts, what are

904
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 9: my whift pitches that I use late in the counts.

905
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 9: Trying to paint that picture because last year was a

906
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 9: lot of trial and error for me because I had

907
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 9: so much, so much new stuff going into the years.

908
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 9: Now that we have so much data on you know,

909
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 9: my success and my failure from last year, it's going

910
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 9: to be an easier picture to paint this year.

911
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 6: Do you feel like you're able to blend enough of

912
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 6: the you said, self proclaimed baseball nerd blend what you're

913
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 6: seeing in your pitch shapes to where their swing plan

914
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 6: is or what you're seeing in game, or when it

915
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 6: you're not seeing it in game, does it just oh crap,

916
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 6: just got to go off the rails and try to

917
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 6: figure it out.

918
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 7: The simple answer is absolutely not. I'm not that good.

919
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 9: I wish I was, but no, when I get on

920
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 9: the mound, I have to compete and I have to

921
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 9: work with what I got that day, and I got

922
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 9: to trust my catchers are going to make those adjustments

923
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 9: for me. If they see that my cutters really sharp

924
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 9: and maybe my sinker is a little flat, they're gonna

925
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 9: talk to me between innings and say, hey, we're gonna

926
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 9: we're gonna call it cutter more and we're gonna go

927
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 9: to spin if my sinkers really sink in and my

928
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 9: four seams really right, and it's like, hey, we might go.

929
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 9: We might go a little firmer than the attack plan

930
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 9: said today. And my job is just to throw the

931
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 9: ball where they put the glove, and you know, execute

932
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 9: what they asked me to execute.

933
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: What's your what's your relationship? As far as Kate Smith,

934
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: I want to throw your four seam fastball right, yeah, Biby,

935
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: I want to throw your off speed pitches. Do you

936
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: go to those guys and say, hey, how do you

937
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: throw that? How do you hold it? And can you

938
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 4: help me shape my pitches? Differently, not only Carl Willis,

939
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: who's obviously been a pitching coach, I feel like for

940
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: like fifty years.

941
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 7: Right, Well, it's actually I think he's actually pretty close

942
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 7: to that.

943
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 4: Up to me and gave me a hug, and I said, Carl,

944
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 4: why do people talk so good about you? And He's like, well,

945
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: you were an asshole. They say bad things about you.

946
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't figure it out. But he's

947
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: been doing this forever, so you can go to him.

948
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: Do you go to your other pitchers? Do you go

949
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 4: to who do you go to when you say, oh,

950
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: I want to work on you know, your two seamer

951
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: or four seemer.

952
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 9: I think personally, I try to find guys that match

953
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 9: my profile of pitch and mechanics, like I naturally pronate,

954
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 9: So I wouldn't go to Biby to ask him about

955
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 9: how I throw something because he's a natural supernat So

956
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 9: we're gonna the ball is gonna come out of our hand. Differently,

957
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 9: Cad Smith is Cad Smith. Nobody can do what he

958
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 9: does with the baseball. But I can't still ask those

959
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 9: guys questions about the metal game or about their preparation routines.

960
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 9: If I were to go trying to find like a

961
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 9: pitch or a movement profile that I want to like,

962
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 9: I try to find somebody that matches my delivery a

963
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 9: little bit closer, and then I can work on, Okay,

964
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 9: how do you manipulate.

965
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: The baseball based on how you move? How you do this?

966
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 9: But there's certainly things you can learn from everybody. I mean,

967
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 9: everybody has their specialty areas in this game where they

968
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 9: excel and maybe it might not be like a direct

969
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 9: correlation to me, but I can learn something from them

970
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 9: that will apply to me.

971
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 6: It's like you're watching your team. I'm sure you guys

972
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 6: have a group thread. Did you guys send messages to

973
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: each other when other teams keep signing guys? Or you

974
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 6: just are you resident to the fact that you know

975
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 6: what guardians are going to be, who we are. We're

976
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: just gonna play and you know the team that we

977
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 6: have on the field is the team? Or do you

978
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 6: get a little jealous that the biggest move was just

979
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 6: an extension for Hosey.

980
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 9: I think that group that especially like I mean the

981
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 9: whole team last year, but especially that September group became

982
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 9: so close through what we accomplished and going into the offseason.

983
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 9: We were pretty excited when we found out that that

984
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 9: group was going to be the team that we went

985
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 9: with next year because we bonded so tightly. We formed

986
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 9: really really close relationships, and the banter day one was there.

987
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 9: The jokes are flying, the focus is intense. So I

988
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 9: don't think any we we didn't have any conversations about it.

989
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 9: We were just excited that the same group of guys

990
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 9: that brought us to a division title we're going to

991
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 9: be back in the locker room.

992
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: I like it.

993
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 7: Like it.

994
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: Before we let you go, I have to ask, we

995
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: need to we need to for shot. Oh gosh, So

996
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 4: Scott went to Miami, like yes, yes. The other day

997
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: we had Trisha Whittaker on Okay, used to be the

998
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: Race Silent. She does Apple TV. I don't know if

999
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: you've met her yet, I don't think so. But she

1000
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: went to Indiana. Okay, I see it's over from the

1001
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: Indiana football game.

1002
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 7: So Tim Herron is an Indiana Hoosier. C J.

1003
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 9: We got we got more Miami guys. So I mean

1004
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 9: Tim has been good about it. He's you know, do

1005
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 9: you guys have a bet? Did you make We didn't

1006
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 9: have a bet. No, he didn't. He didn't wear us

1007
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 9: out too much about it. I know j jir travel

1008
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 9: secretary wore some Indiana stuff and gave me a little

1009
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 9: crap day on.

1010
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 7: But they've taken it well.

1011
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 9: I think they embody that Kurt Signetti mentality of let

1012
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 9: your let you're on the field stuff do the talking.

1013
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 7: You know, I would have football, oh Miami. I mean

1014
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 7: it would have been.

1015
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 9: It would have been a circus in the best way possible,

1016
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 9: and I would have been I would have been a

1017
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 9: big part of it because I love it, you know.

1018
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: Off the difference is the Kurt signetty hard working, keep

1019
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: your mouth shut, do your job, Miami.

1020
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 7: It's hard working. We just don't keep our mouth shut.

1021
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 7: We work hard. We'd like to talk our ship sometimes,

1022
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 7: you know. Yeah.

1023
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: And also, as AJ actually said the other day, it

1024
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: was twenty five year old against twenty year olds, so

1025
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: that's a big difference.

1026
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 7: We got a lot of old men on that team,

1027
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 7: some grown men.

1028
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: Person is like thirty five, so at some point.

1029
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: Well besides him, the rest of you though, no JJ

1030
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: didn't you say. I used team is like the oldest

1031
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: team or whatever.

1032
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 7: And they were pretty old.

1033
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 9: I mean it'sah, college football is SOMI pro football now

1034
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 9: it's kind of like college football nil.

1035
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 7: Now it's just how.

1036
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 4: Much do you give to Miami to keep their NIO going? Jee?

1037
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: I know, JD hits you up.

1038
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: They made so much money just now. They don't need

1039
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: they don't need your money. They don't need my money.

1040
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: I know from a first source. They made dumb amounts

1041
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: of money. They're good for a while now, so everyone's good.

1042
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 7: That's good to know. So now I have that in

1043
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 7: my back pocket.

1044
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: When I get to JD's at some point, it'll it'll

1045
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 4: be the locker room or do something.

1046
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 7: They just redid the locker room. It looks great, look

1047
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 7: really good. I'm good.

1048
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 9: I didn't get called for that, so sorry.

1049
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 7: I think they've baseball team got above football team is rich.

1050
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, Well thanks for joining us.

1051
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it. Always to share my hand.

1052
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 7: Yeah awesome, thanks guys, appreciate the other show. H