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Speaker 1: new Tonight. Police are asking the public to help them

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Speaker 1: find a Cohassett, Massachusetts mother of three who vanished without

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Speaker 1: a trace on New Year's Day. Thirty nine year old

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Speaker 1: Anna Walsh left her home early Sunday morning. She was

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Speaker 1: supposed to take a flight from Logan to DC, where

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Speaker 1: to a special guest, Dana Kennedy, senior reporter with my

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve, December thirty one. Is this correct that she

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Speaker 1: Gardner dot com, author of blood Stained Pattern Analysis with

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Speaker 1: an Introduction to Crime Scene Reconstruction, third Edition. Wow, I

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Speaker 1: investigators went north of Boston to a place called Peabody,

427
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Speaker 1: to a transfer station. There they found some material that

428
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: initially was called evidence or remains, and I don't think

429
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: it's been specifically outlined at all yet. I don't think

430
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: they I mean, they found I believe a bloody knife

431
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: in the basement, but clearly the guy is still not

432
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: under arrest for this murder, so there's nothing that completely

433
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: pointing it at him yet as far as I know,

434
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: so a bloody knife, and I believe the knife had

435
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: been broken to some degree and some blood in the

436
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: family home. Not the former home that was burned down,

437
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: but the family home where Anna was living with her

438
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: three boys and husband. And there's more. Listen to NBCT.

439
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: In Boston, police have been collecting surveillance video from several

440
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: places Brian Walsh visited after his wife's disappearance. That includes

441
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: walking by this dumpster at a liquor store in Swampscott

442
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: So trying to figure out what exactly happened. Doctor Anne

443
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Marie Myers used to work at the Medical Examiner's office

444
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: and now teaches friends at criminology at Anna Maria College.

445
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: She says authorities will fast track everything they have through

446
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: the lab, including the hacksaw and the bloody knife, but

447
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: some of the details could make the police work difficult.

448
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: There's an indication that there's been some sort of perhaps

449
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: dismembering of the body and then disposal echoes. Many cases

450
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: that I was involved in where the police were never

451
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: able to find human remains. Ross Gardner is joining me

452
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: for as a consultant. Ross what does a broken knife

453
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: mean to you? Well, it's unclear as is it's broken

454
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: or it's damaged, but that would not be unexpected either

455
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: through if he used the knife during the course of

456
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: the assault or in the course of dismembering. Dismembering is

457
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: not an easy task. I think what's more important at

458
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: this point will be the DNA. You know, they haven't

459
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: arrested him, but that's because they've got to go and

460
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: they're going to have to correlate the knife and those

461
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: bloods things that they found specifically in the basement back

462
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: to Anna and then of course, in that sense there's

463
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: some belief that he may have cleaned up the scene.

464
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: We could have high expectation that they're doing additional work

465
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: such as LCV or loomin all trying to enhance any

466
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: cleanup activity, because that'll give you a better sense for

467
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, is this just a couple of tiny little

468
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: blood stains or was there a large volume of blood

469
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: here and now it's been cleaned up? Crime Stories with

470
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. What can you tell me, Danny Kennedy about

471
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: a four hundred and fifty dollar bill at home Depot? Well,

472
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: when they found the receipt for this there it was

473
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: cleaning supplies and I believe there might have been some

474
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: rope found, but again pretty suspicious considering his wife is missing.

475
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I've got tom mops, tart quickly buckets, various type of

476
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: tape and cleaning supplies all from the Rockland home Depot.

477
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: And you know what, I love, Philip Halloway about Home Depot.

478
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Much like Target, they have excellent surveillance video. I will

479
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: never forget. I believe it was Target where top Mom

480
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Casey Anthony went while her daughter Kelly was missing there.

481
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: She was in her push up bra buying beer and

482
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: all sorts of party stuff using somebody else's check, by

483
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: the way, while her daughter was missing, she was not

484
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: the least bit upset. And I guarantee you there's going

485
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: to be home depot surveillance video of a husband, Brian Walsh,

486
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: buying all of his cleaning supplies. And not only will

487
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: they find forensically, as they've already stated, a bloody knife

488
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: and some blood in the basement, there could be traces

489
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: of that cleaning supply in the home, and luminole catches

490
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: so much that the naked eye misses any blood spatter,

491
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: any smudge, any transfer, anything on the wall or the ceiling.

492
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: A lot of times when defendants murder someone, they forget

493
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: to look up at the ceiling. That's a big booboo,

494
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Philip Hallaway, Yeah, it is. And I can't think of

495
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: an innocent reason for him to be at the home

496
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: depot at that time, in violation of his bond, by

497
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: the way, purchasing four hundred and fifty dollars for cleaning

498
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: supplies if it's not something that he normally does, and

499
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: there's no information that that is part of this regular routine.

500
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: So it's just one more brick in the wall when

501
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: you add it together with all the other circumstantial it's

502
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: in Bible way. Speaking of the Hacksall, can you imagine

503
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: any worse thing to be out there, you know, involved

504
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: in a case like this, If there's a Hacksall involved,

505
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: that just sends the mind into thinking the absolute worst

506
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: and most horrifying of outcomes in this case. And I

507
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Danny Kennedy a New York Post, it's

508
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: not like Condexter, where the whole floor in the walls

509
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: or in cased in plastic and then he dismembers the

510
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: bad guy and then just kind of throws it all

511
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: up and you never you never find any blood spatter

512
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: at all. It's not like that at all. It's an

513
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: arduous task. It's very hard to dismember someone and you

514
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: always leave behind blood. Plus you've got to get blood

515
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: off that Hacksall trace back to Anna. If that's in

516
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: fact true, that's right. This at all so incredibly grizzly.

517
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know how an everyday average guy, which

518
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: is what Brian Walsh was, you could even figure out

519
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: how to saw limbs off. I don't think I could.

520
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: And there's more, guys, take a listen to our friend

521
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Julianne Lima Balston twenty five. We did confirm through sources

522
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: that investigators did in fact find evidence in that dumpster

523
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: that is connected to Anna Walsh's disappearance. Now they searched

524
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: the dumpster here in Pebody for hours last night. State

525
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: and local police sources also telling us a police tow

526
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: that dumpster from Brian Walsh's mother's apartment complex in Swampscott.

527
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: We spoke to people who live in that complex who

528
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: were horrified to learn of what may have been put

529
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: in their trash. And the one in Maya is automatic.

530
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: When you close the dua, it compacts very thing. To

531
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: think about that, because God forbid, if somebody puts something

532
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: in theya A compact would compact it back to you.

533
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Danny Kennedy, we are just learning that Anna Walsh, age

534
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: thirty nine, was planning for the future, selling off assets

535
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: to reinvest in real estate before she vanished on New

536
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Year's Day. What if anything do we know about that? Well,

537
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: we know information about her plans for the future when

538
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: it came to her business from some tenants that she

539
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: had in Revere, which is north of Boston, a seaside town,

540
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: and these tenants had been with her for a while

541
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: and considered her a friend. I believe they knew her

542
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: for seven years and they were shocked when about a

543
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: month ago, she said, oh, you guys have to get out,

544
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm selling it. And when they sort of acted like, well,

545
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: can we have some more time, they said, her whole

546
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: demeanor changed in a way they'd never seen before. She

547
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: was pushedy, they said, not very nice, had a bit

548
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: of a meltdown over it, and they were shocked. But

549
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: then another source told Fox News that it was normal

550
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: for someone who's in like sort of low level real

551
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: estate investment to flip and put that money into another investment,

552
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: which sounds like she did because it was sold at

553
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Revere Beach Home prior to her disappearance. What can you

554
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: tell me, Dana about some fake Andy Warhol paintings. Brian

555
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Walsh bought them from an LA gallery dealer who believed

556
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: it and it wasn't until later that he found out

557
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: they were completely fake, and Brian Walsh was later arrested

558
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: in connection with art fraud. That's why he was living

559
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: in co hasit with an ankle monitor. I'm picking meccap so.

560
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Brian had an art fraud conviction and was forced by

561
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: the court to stay at home. But aside from the

562
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: art fraud, this to me is much more troubling. Take

563
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: a listen to our cut twenty one our friend Bob

564
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: Ward on social media missing cohsit mom Anna Walsh portrayed

565
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: a glamorous, happy life with her husband, Brian Walsh, but

566
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: a police report revealed deep trouble even before Anna and

567
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Brian were even engaged. According to this public incident report,

568
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Anna Canip her maiden name, told DC met Police that

569
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Brian Walsh quote made a statement over the telephone that

570
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: he was going to kill her and her friends. She added,

571
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Brian now lives in Boston, Massachusetts. Brian Walsh is not

572
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: named in the report, but my sources indicate the suspect

573
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: here is Brian Walsh. The report lists the potential offense

574
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: as felony threats, but Anna never cooperated with DC Metro police.

575
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Brian Walsh was never charged and the case was closed.

576
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: And not only was that case closed, she then went

577
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: on to marry him. Doctor Bethany Marshall, can you make

578
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: sense of that? Well? Yes, absolutely, I can, Nancy, because

579
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: even the most abusive of relationships always start out with

580
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: an attachment right. Two people love each other, they want

581
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: to be together, and according to a cultural anthropologist Helen Fisher,

582
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: there's idealization between the couple that lasts for like seven

583
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: to fifteen months, where they just see each other as

584
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: perfect and as the person who's going to take care

585
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: of all their own unmet needs. And it's not until

586
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: that initial idealization wears off they start to see the

587
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: true character of the other person. And then, more specifically,

588
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: with women who are abused, there's kind of a crisis

589
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: of boundaries where when the man is abusive, toxic, in

590
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: this case, homicidal, the woman thinks, oh, it's my fault.

591
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: I went to DC, I made him jealous, I posted

592
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: all these pictures. I shouldn't have done it, And she

593
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: could have blamed herself, which would then have paved the

594
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: way for the sort of a matching thought which r, well,

595
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: it's my fault, I have to fix it, and now

596
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I just have to go back home and make things better.

597
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Take a listen also to what our friend Lawrence Jones

598
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: from Fox and Knees and Our Cut thirteen has learned.

599
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: What do you know about Brian? Unfortunately not much because

600
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: every time when we would have a conversation about Brian,

601
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: it would be switched to children or brushed off. So

602
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: we what do you mean, brush stuff the conversation, I

603
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: shn go literally switched on the subject. So and I said,

604
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: and if there is anything come you know, it's it's okay.

605
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: And she said everything is fine and more her husband

606
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: Brian had There's no picture policy. I mean, it's even

607
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: hard to find pictures of her out there or we

608
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: want to remember her her life and try to get

609
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: answers for her. If y'all hear anything about that, does

610
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: that surprise you? There's no picture policy. Hard to say

611
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: she was hiding, truly, but the absence of him. I

612
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: understand that even in New Year's Eve, my friend said

613
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: that he would not even take personal photos between friends,

614
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: that he was missing on the photos, and during the

615
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve that he would take pictures of everybody

616
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: else but not of himself. So there must be some

617
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: reasons for it. I don't want to speculate what the reason,

618
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: but it is odd, I know, picture policy. Dana Kennedy

619
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: from The New York Post there's one very important picture

620
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: out there right now. He's shot. He apparently lied to

621
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: police and he's been charged with impeding the investigation stating

622
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: he took his sons for ice cream, when in fact

623
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: that's not true. No, it's it's not true at all.

624
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be anything really valid that he

625
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: has said so far. And if I agree with a

626
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: lot of what doctor Bethany said in principle, but I

627
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: think it's very strange still to file a police report

628
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: or make a police report saying this guy was going

629
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: to kill you, and then marry him a year later,

630
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: and not have not one, but three children, and then

631
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: leaves them essentially with a guy who she knew had

632
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: been convicted of a crime. I have a vibe that

633
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: she wasn't just the sweet, loving mother that you know

634
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: that we see listen. I'm sorry if she's been murdered, obviously,

635
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: but I think she was kind of a complicated person.

636
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: I think it's very odd to go ahead and marry

637
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: a guy like that and have three kids and leave

638
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: the kids with him during the week. The tip line

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Speaker 1: seven eight one three eight three one zero five five

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Speaker 1: repeat seven eight one three eight three one zero five five.

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Speaker 1: Can I add something, sure, Nancy. We've just gotten word

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Speaker 1: that Norfolk County DA in Massachusetts has charged Brian Walsh

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Speaker 1: with murder. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye friend,