WEBVTT - One on One: Todd Lowe 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:08.879 I Am all In You. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:21.160 I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.840 Everybody Scott Patterson one on one interview with Todd Lowe. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.960 He played Zach for forty two episodes two thousand and 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.000 two two thousand and seven. First appearance was a season 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:36.200 three episode four One's Got Class, The Other One Dies 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.879 dye as his last appearance season seven episode twenty two, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.680 Bond by Age. He also appeared in three episodes of 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.640 A Year in the Life, Winter, Spring, and Summer. His 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.440 character Zach first appeared season three along with Brian and Dave. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.080 He's the lead guitars and singer of the band Lane 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.360 Joins hep Alien Uh. He was later revealed to be 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.280 also one of the main songwriters in Alien, mostly writing 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.720 songs about girls and naming those songs after those girls. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.200 Here's a little bit about Todd's background. He's a graduate 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.760 of the University of Texas Austin, graduating with a Bachelor 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.080 of Fine Arts degree in nineteen ninety nine. While looking 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.959 for jobs as an actor, Todd worked as a substitute teacher. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.280 He is best known for his roles on HBO's True 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.360 Blood Gilmore Girls, Where the Heart Is Avenue forty three 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.240 and Shooter, in addition to television film he started He 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.160 started over twenty stage productions and has worked on several 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:39.440 plays written by playwright Justin Tanner. He's also been a 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:43.679 singer and guitarist for Pivoli Nights and a country rock 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.720 band based in Los Angeles. He's currently a member of 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:51.000 another rock band in La the La Hooton Nanny and 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:56.480 Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's bring in toddlow Houdi, Scott, how 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.960 you doing, Todd? Is it true you were a substitute 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.720 teacher before acting? What was your favorite subject to teach? 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.919 If that is true? And I know it is true, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:08.680 but tell us a little bit about that. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:10.200 I worked as I was. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.720 I went to I grew up in Texas, and I 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.800 went to school at the University of Texas in Austin, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.239 and I did a lot of museum education as a 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.360 side hustle. And there was one time when I was 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.720 asked to substitute in at a monasory school, and I 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:33.600 had no training as into the monassory education disciplines. So 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.520 I basically found myself just like a babysitter, trying not 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:43.280 to say the word no because it's a different type 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.600 of discipline. So I found myself saying no students, I mean, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:52.400 don't But I did that for maybe a week, but 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.440 most of my stuff was in museum education. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:03:03.720 Okay, So what was the role that got you out 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:04.520 of teaching? 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.520 Well? Help it was well. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.920 First of all, what got me out of Austin was 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.959 love because my girlfriend at the time got accepted into 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.280 USC for grad school. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.799 I had booked a. 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:26.040 Couple little jobs in Texas and was SAG eligible, and 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.440 it made sense to come to La with her. We 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:35.680 didn't last very long and I came out here. I 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.600 worked at the Children's Museum of Los Angeles. Then they 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.280 kind of knew that I had aspirations of being an actor. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.960 I got cast in a play at South Coast Repertory 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.920 in Orange County and went down there. I got my 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.840 equity card exposure to a better agent, which signed me, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:01.840 and then I was living on unemployment two week and 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.480 kind of quit teaching. And then Gilmore Girls kind of happened, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.720 and I thought it was just one episode. In fact, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.360 the same week I had gotten a part on a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:17.080 small little part on NYPD Blue, and I wanted to 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.240 take that because my parents watched that show, and. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.920 No, I didn't know anything about Gilmore Girls, and. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.080 My agent wisely steered me. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.720 It's like, no, I think you want to do this 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.280 Gilmore Girls show, and there's going to be a few 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.400 more appearances, and then bam it turned into like forty 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.280 five episodes and kind of got my career going. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.560 What did your agent tell you about the show that 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.680 was so special about it that you had to do it? 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.599 They said, it's the comedy. The pacing is very unique. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.080 It lends itself to actors who have had stage work 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:56.000 with the memorizations and the rhythm of the dialogue, and 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.040 actors who have had a little bit of stage work 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.000 maybe tend to do a little better on that show. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.640 And I thought, he said, I think it suits your 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:06.320 skill set as opposed to just being some bad guy 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.400 or junkie or whatever the hell the role was on 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:14.840 in my PD Blue And yeah, wisely it turned out 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:15.440 off for the best. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.960 I tell you, we're getting into season five. We we're 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:27.440 ten episodes into season five, and you're finally getting some 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.599 really juicy stuff to do with Lane. You know, the 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:36.320 relationship is becoming really interesting. You're able to show different 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.360 colors and it's really riveting. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:46.480 Oh that's good. Fortunately for me, Adam Brody Dave Rigowski got. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.919 A bigger job with a on another show, So I 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.080 guess I was next in line. I think because he 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.480 was slated to be Lane's love interests and then fell 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.240 into my lap and lucky me. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.599 Big shoes to fill for sure. And we have we 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:07.760 have noted that as as the chemistry was coming together 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.440 between between Zach and Lane, and now it's really blossomed 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:17.640 where we're just loving what you're doing. Now, you know, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.200 your skills as an actor are really coming to the four, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.400 not that they weren't before, but now it's like there's 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:28.640 this other side to Zach, this vulnerable side, which is fascinating. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:33.440 It's absolutely fascinating how you're handling it. Do you remember 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.240 getting the scripts and seeing that, Oh, yay, I get 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.920 to do you know, I get to show some different 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:40.600 colors here? 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.520 And oh of course. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.880 I mean I think every actor when we get a script, 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.640 we immediately flip to where's my where's my character's Then 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.960 I mean, I'll read the whole episode after. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:51.960 I go through all my stuff. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:58.479 But I'm seeing, oh, I'm liking Lane with their glasses 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.920 and there's going to be a kiss, and yeah, that's 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.920 just it's just delicious. I got something new to go there. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.760 I mean, Zach's kind of adult and I sometimes I 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.720 maybe I made some easy choices, just making them a 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:19.040 little dim and but and the writers found my voice 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.720 and my rhythms and my cadence, so it wasn't a 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.520 difficult second. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.720 Skin to step into and put on. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:26.000 It. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.840 Just it fit and then you can speak honestly and emotionally. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.720 And then I thought Kiko and I had a pretty 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:36.760 nice chemistry. And I'm glad to hear that some people 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:37.960 think it came across on the screen. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.680 Oh it really does. And I hear you judging your 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:48.160 character and your work describing him as adult. He I'll 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.080 tell you, from my point of view and our point 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.000 of view, the comedy really pomped because of that choice. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:55.000 Uh huh. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.120 So I wouldn't question it. I thought it was actually 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:04.280 kind of brilliant. And I think by making him that way, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.960 now this other side that's coming out is so surprising 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:14.760 and it is fun. It's so much fun to watch. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.920 Now we're all like, we need more Zach and Lane. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.960 And I'm sitting here questioning what took them so long? 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.280 And Why didn't they use you? They know you, they 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.640 know you have chops, they know you could pull it off. 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:32.600 Why didn't they use you? Know your character could have 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:39.040 become as relevant in the show as you know? Gosh, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.800 who can I compare it to? Who? You know? 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:42.280 It could have? 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.120 You could have, You could have and should have had 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.000 as much work to do as Lane. You know what 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.240 I mean? I mean, did you ever Here's a question 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:53.719 I already know the answer to, but I'm gonna ask 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.600 you anyway. Did you ever approach producers and say, hey, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.400 I'd love some more. What do you think? Did you 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.079 ever feel like you could contribute more and wanted to 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.480 and said that to producers because I think the show 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:06.679 really benefits from it. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:11.280 I certainly felt that, but I didn't want to stir 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.280 any feathers and ruffle any feathers. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.240 And stir the pots and be a squeaky wheel. I 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:20.320 was grateful to what they. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:26.880 Gave me, and Amy and her staff like they did. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.439 It built for a while, but it was I did 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.360 get a lot to contribute, and the music stuff was 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.720 fun to do, and getting together with Helen Pie and 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.480 having band rehearsals and learning what song we were going 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.760 to do that week, and I can play the guitar 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.439 a little bit, so I got to use that skill. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.440 And I'm no, I didn't go and ask them. I 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:50.480 didn't have that kind of confidence to say, hey, right 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.000 for me more. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.640 I'm just I was just grateful to be on the show. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:10:01.080 Right. What's happening now between Zach and Lane is terrific. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:05.640 It's it's as entertaining and as funny as anything that's 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:06.439 been on that show. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:07.400 How good. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.920 It's shocking. It's really shocking that they laid off the 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:15.200 gas on that character for so long and now look 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:20.520 what it's producing. Is I I hope there's more of it. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.679 I don't know. I've never seen the series, so I'm 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.880 watching it for the first time each time, and then 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.280 we're doing a podcast about it. But I hope there's more. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.640 Don't tell me. I don't want to. I don't want 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.040 this surprise to be ruined. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:35.840 Okay, I didn't know that. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:41.320 You were so uninformed, Scott, incredibly uninformed when it comes 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:42.240 to this show. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.120 Well, it's like, you know, I was doing it all 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.480 the time. I didn't want to go home and watch it, right, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:49.280 you know what I mean? 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.560 You had longer hours than I did, and I can 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:52.839 understand getting figged right. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.480 I just I just needed to get away from it. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:11:01.679 You know, it's just like recharge. So you've been well. No, actually, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.280 let's talk about the auditioning process. Do you tell me 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:10.880 about the audition and did you know once you got 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.400 it that Zach would be a long standing character. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:15.720 No. 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.240 What I remember from the audition is I came in. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.080 They wanted a guitar and they wanted me to sing, 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.840 just do any kind of performance with a guitar. So 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.880 I was playing in a little kind of a comedy 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.880 band where we were this German pop band and we 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.560 were playing just at clubs in Hollywood, and I had 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.080 translated a pixie song which is where Is My Mind? 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.520 And I translated it into German in a very bad 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.120 kind of broken German, but enough to where the cadence 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:49.720 and the words would line up. So I sang that 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.920 Pixie song in German and they liked it and they said, 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:53.600 what else do you have? 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.280 And I don't know. I think I sang a Smith 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:56.439 song or something. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:12:00.920 And they said thank you, and then I don't know, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.120 a few hours later, I got a call and it's 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:04.680 you love to get those calls. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.679 It's like be there on Thursday. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:13.200 Wait a minute, So you translated a Pixie song into German. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.640 I had already had that in my pocket and was performing. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.880 It and and what and can you give us just 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.440 a brief sample of it if you can remember anything? 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:29.679 Yeah, him on trick on being nice. Yeah, then climb 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.960 and fish bumping to me. Yeah, I'm a cross, try 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.440 to wait? Wait wait? Bo is Mine cult? Where is 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.720 my mind? Oh? Is mine Cult? That was the song? 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.800 Yeah, And you would perform this live, yeah, with a 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.280 band with a band, and people. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:46.560 Would love it. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.800 The audience was Yeah, they were in on the joke 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.719 and they loved it. And I playing a. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.320 Little bar band right now, and it's still in the 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:53.840 set list. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:13:00.360 Oh, that's wonderful. That's really good stuff. It's well, yeah, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.120 let's talk about those bands. You've been a part of 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.720 a couple different bands, so that made Zach and easy 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.120 fit for you. Tell us a little bit about the 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.439 band you're playing in, right, Oh. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.760 I've been playing in different bar bands. It's not my 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.920 first pursuit. My first pursuit is an actor, and I 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.680 have a little bit of not contempt, but I certainly 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.520 don't want to go see some actors band. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.679 I don't care how good Kevin Bacon's band is. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.079 I'd rather see Kevin Bacon in a movie and if 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.560 it's there, I'll sit and watch, but I don't really 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.280 want to pay a ticket. And same thing with Billy 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.080 Bob Thornton Keanu Reeves is like, I like you guys 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:40.640 doing that. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.120 Don't be a rock star? 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.199 You know what? You know what I found, I so 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.079 agree with you. I can't agree with you more because 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:53.439 I saw I was so curious about Billy Bob Thornton's band, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.480 and I watched a couple of videos and he made 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.600 he made actual videos that were, like, you know, pretty 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.720 good production value. They spent some money on his videos. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.480 And the band's great and the music great. He's not 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.120 a front man. He's got no energy. I'm sorry. I mean, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:14.640 he's just not a good singer. He's not. And God 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.120 bless him for being out there and doing it and 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.840 getting all the fun. And I understand that impulse because 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:25.120 I did it too. And but that's the thing. It's 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.720 it's like, you know as well as I do. You know, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.360 having a great front man is everything. If you don't 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.120 have that, you're not gonna go to the top, you 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.720 might not even go to the middle right, right, And 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.400 it's amazing how good some of these bands are. And 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.160 if you don't have a really special guy or gal 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.680 singing you, it's gonna be a tough road. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.000 You know. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.160 Well, those guys have the cachet to go out and 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.160 hire the best sidement in the business, right and to 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.880 cover their expenses. It can be a vanity project. But 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.000 I don't have pockets thater that deep. I'm fortunate to 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.560 have good friends that are really talented. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:10.320 Right. So have you ever seen an actor or an 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.400 entertainment personality that was a good front person? 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.440 Well, Jamie Fox is at. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.680 He did. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.760 Usually it's the musician. What a surprised when they give 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.160 a good acting performance. I can say Dwight Yoakam in 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:31.760 Sling Play, He's amazing. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.200 It was. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.000 It was really chilling us. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:39.720 And that's when we appreciate more. Like I'm sure Keanu 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.680 Reeves band is awesome, but he but. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.280 He was smart enough to stand off to the side. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:50.000 Oh yeah, plays the base, which is like exactly what 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.600 I was telling my crew. I said, I can't be 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.800 the front guy. Yeah, I'm not a good enough singer 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.720 and I don't have that thing that you need to 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.480 be like a great singer, which is a great voice. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.200 You know, I don't have that. I have to work 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.680 my ass off just to sound sort of passable. Sometimes 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.920 that's not a good omen, right, So it's like stand 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.760 off to the side and let the really talented take 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.160 care of your music, right, and assist it in some 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.640 way or else if you can't get the hell out 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:22.200 of the band. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.560 Yeah. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.320 Yeah, but some actors have done. I mean I think 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:30.920 j Loo has done pretty well. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.960 Right. Does she start as an actor? She started as 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:35.760 a fly girl. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:41.560 She started as a dance she's a triple threat. Yeah, singing, dancing, acting, right, Yeah, 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.800 so she's had a big career. She's good at that. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.640 I mean, I could talk all day about this. Let's 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:54.080 speaking of frontmen that have that thing. Sebastian Bach has 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.560 that thing. Yes, that is a bona fide front man. Yes, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.160 who stands in front of a band can scream into 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:07.400 a microphone and sound incredible, right, I mean that guy 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.400 can bring the house down. So you got to work 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.080 closely with him. What was your first meeting with him? 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.320 Like, oh, well, I'm going to try to keep it PG. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.199 I do remember It's like what Sebastian Bach. It's that 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.000 guy who I saw when I was fifteen years old 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.840 at the summit in Houston, skin Roll opening up for 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:32.680 bon Jovi. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:34.960 And he came in. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:39.080 He had one scene where he's supposed to be a 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.200 guitarist in the band, right, and he all those years 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:43.960 in rock and roll, he's not a guitarist. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:44.600 He's a singer. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.719 And he had the most difficult time just getting his 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.800 electric guitar, unplugging the guitar cable and then putting it 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.960 into a case, and just it kind of had to 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.280 happen quickly in that Gilmore girls rhy him and we're 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.840 all leaving the room and just like it was like 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.720 a monkey with a puzzle putting in the stars in 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:06.120 a circular hole. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.520 He just couldn't figure out how to put that guitar 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:09.320 in the case. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.480 And John and I were just snickering and he's like 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.240 and then he you know, starts cursing. He gets frustrated, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.400 and eighties like, it's okay, we'll get it in the cutaway. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.720 We don't have to show you. And you know, I 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.200 wouldn't know what I look at it, him know what 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:24.720 I'm doing. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:30.560 And but he was such a warm, gregarious personality. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.720 I really can't say a bad thing about that guy. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.040 I'm proud to have shared screen with him. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:42.320 I'm proud of gone out to the Rainbow with him. 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.280 That's as close as I've ever been to crazy rock 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:45.880 starred him. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.880 I had the same experience. I went to the Rainbow 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.919 with him. It was it was fun. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.840 What a night we all we I don't know if 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.080 you were there that night, but it was one of 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:55.800 the early ones. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.320 And then of course that's his kingdom. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.320 And for those who are listening, the Rainbow Room is 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.679 this rock and roll, heavy metal club on on Sunset Strip. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:06.920 And we sat down. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:11.240 They bring us to a really nice table and let's 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.560 everybody watch pizza pizza and uh yeah, what you like 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:22.520 on your pizza? And it's like pepperoni and oh here 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.359 comes Ron Jeremy over to say hello. 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.720 Oh man, he uh yeah, I mean just. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.240 High fives all around, always about the high five. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:42.600 That's an entire two hour podcast in and of it. Yeah, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.639 I should actually do a podcast based on him. Amazing character. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.080 How long has it been since you watched your episode back? 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.040 Did you watch any of these episodes before you came 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.040 on or you're just like. 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:02.600 No, occasionally somebody will send me. I stumbled across a 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.120 YouTube clip of there's a scene of the diner. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:06.960 I don't know if you've gotten to it in your viewing, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.960 but well, there's the proposal, I have the lane, which 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.320 is a really sweet scene. And then there's another scene 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.320 where I hear that I like her better with her 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.440 glasses on, and I thought, oh, I kind of handled 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:20.760 that well. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:25.160 That scene went well. If but I get too self conscious. 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.359 If Gilmore Girls is playing on someone's TV, it's. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:36.640 Like, oh, I gotta get squirmy and leave the room. 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.119 Just I don't want to see myselvan right right, right right. 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.520 I was thinking before this little video podcast, I was 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.119 going to have it on in the background on the 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:43.840 TV behind me. 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.800 It's like, oh, I just play it all the time, right, 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.679 just so in the rare chance that'll get more residuals. 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.120 It just it's always. 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.240 Playing right right. So we recapped the parties over. Okay, 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.600 it's a little bit ago, but as one of the 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.399 scene where missus Kim is screaming at you at the 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.480 new stand, what do you remember about filming that scene 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.600 with Emily Corota, because that was I loved you in 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.439 that scene, because you had a job to do in 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.280 that scene, which was to be, you know, to react 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.000 to what she was doing, and it was just really funny. 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.560 What you were doing was so funny because you didn't 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.600 do too much, and that's sometimes the hardest stuff to do. 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.159 Catch me up. What was she chastising me about? 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.919 I think just the fact that you were dating Lane, okay, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.159 and I somehow she found out, I think. And you 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.960 were at the news stand and there was that guy, 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.200 that young guy. Uh oh, and the guy was yelling 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.119 at you because you come to the new stand and 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.399 you read, but you don't pay for it, okay, okay, okay. 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:51.040 And then Emily Grooda comes up and just just drills you, 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.520 you know, just a surprise attack, and you just you 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.320 just turn and you're so befuddled and flustered. 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.040 And is that the episode She says, Well, if she's 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.280 going to be dating you, we need to improve your 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:02.359 songwriting or whatever. 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:02.760 I don't. 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:03.720 I don't think that's it. 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:04.400 Okay. 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.920 I don't think we've gotten there yet. 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:06.760 Okay. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.440 It was just an all out of assault on Zach 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.080 in public. I mean, she just unloaded both barrels on you, 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:20.960