Speaker 1: I Am all In You.
Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson one on one interview with Todd Lowe.
Speaker 1: He played Zach for forty two episodes two thousand and
Speaker 1: two two thousand and seven. First appearance was a season
Speaker 1: three episode four One's Got Class, The Other One Dies
Speaker 1: dye as his last appearance season seven episode twenty two,
Speaker 1: Bond by Age. He also appeared in three episodes of
Speaker 1: A Year in the Life, Winter, Spring, and Summer. His
Speaker 1: character Zach first appeared season three along with Brian and Dave.
Speaker 1: He's the lead guitars and singer of the band Lane
Speaker 1: Joins hep Alien Uh. He was later revealed to be
Speaker 1: also one of the main songwriters in Alien, mostly writing
Speaker 1: songs about girls and naming those songs after those girls.
Speaker 1: Here's a little bit about Todd's background. He's a graduate
Speaker 1: of the University of Texas Austin, graduating with a Bachelor
Speaker 1: of Fine Arts degree in nineteen ninety nine. While looking
Speaker 1: for jobs as an actor, Todd worked as a substitute teacher.
Speaker 1: He is best known for his roles on HBO's True
Speaker 1: Blood Gilmore Girls, Where the Heart Is Avenue forty three
Speaker 1: and Shooter, in addition to television film he started He
Speaker 1: started over twenty stage productions and has worked on several
Speaker 1: plays written by playwright Justin Tanner. He's also been a
Speaker 1: singer and guitarist for Pivoli Nights and a country rock
Speaker 1: band based in Los Angeles. He's currently a member of
Speaker 1: another rock band in La the La Hooton Nanny and
Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's bring in toddlow Houdi, Scott, how
Speaker 1: you doing, Todd? Is it true you were a substitute
Speaker 1: teacher before acting? What was your favorite subject to teach?
Speaker 1: If that is true? And I know it is true,
Speaker 1: but tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: I worked as I was.
Speaker 2: I went to I grew up in Texas, and I
Speaker 2: went to school at the University of Texas in Austin,
Speaker 2: and I did a lot of museum education as a
Speaker 2: side hustle. And there was one time when I was
Speaker 2: asked to substitute in at a monasory school, and I
Speaker 2: had no training as into the monassory education disciplines. So
Speaker 2: I basically found myself just like a babysitter, trying not
Speaker 2: to say the word no because it's a different type
Speaker 2: of discipline. So I found myself saying no students, I mean,
Speaker 2: don't But I did that for maybe a week, but
Speaker 2: most of my stuff was in museum education.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what was the role that got you out
Speaker 1: of teaching?
Speaker 3: Well? Help it was well.
Speaker 2: First of all, what got me out of Austin was
Speaker 2: love because my girlfriend at the time got accepted into
Speaker 2: USC for grad school.
Speaker 3: I had booked a.
Speaker 2: Couple little jobs in Texas and was SAG eligible, and
Speaker 2: it made sense to come to La with her. We
Speaker 2: didn't last very long and I came out here. I
Speaker 2: worked at the Children's Museum of Los Angeles. Then they
Speaker 2: kind of knew that I had aspirations of being an actor.
Speaker 2: I got cast in a play at South Coast Repertory
Speaker 2: in Orange County and went down there. I got my
Speaker 2: equity card exposure to a better agent, which signed me,
Speaker 2: and then I was living on unemployment two week and
Speaker 2: kind of quit teaching. And then Gilmore Girls kind of happened,
Speaker 2: and I thought it was just one episode. In fact,
Speaker 2: the same week I had gotten a part on a
Speaker 2: small little part on NYPD Blue, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: take that because my parents watched that show, and.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know anything about Gilmore Girls, and.
Speaker 3: My agent wisely steered me.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, I think you want to do this
Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls show, and there's going to be a few
Speaker 2: more appearances, and then bam it turned into like forty
Speaker 2: five episodes and kind of got my career going.
Speaker 1: What did your agent tell you about the show that
Speaker 1: was so special about it that you had to do it?
Speaker 2: They said, it's the comedy. The pacing is very unique.
Speaker 2: It lends itself to actors who have had stage work
Speaker 2: with the memorizations and the rhythm of the dialogue, and
Speaker 2: actors who have had a little bit of stage work
Speaker 2: maybe tend to do a little better on that show.
Speaker 2: And I thought, he said, I think it suits your
Speaker 2: skill set as opposed to just being some bad guy
Speaker 2: or junkie or whatever the hell the role was on
Speaker 2: in my PD Blue And yeah, wisely it turned out
Speaker 2: off for the best.
Speaker 1: I tell you, we're getting into season five. We we're
Speaker 1: ten episodes into season five, and you're finally getting some
Speaker 1: really juicy stuff to do with Lane. You know, the
Speaker 1: relationship is becoming really interesting. You're able to show different
Speaker 1: colors and it's really riveting.
Speaker 3: Oh that's good. Fortunately for me, Adam Brody Dave Rigowski got.
Speaker 2: A bigger job with a on another show, So I
Speaker 2: guess I was next in line. I think because he
Speaker 2: was slated to be Lane's love interests and then fell
Speaker 2: into my lap and lucky me.
Speaker 1: Big shoes to fill for sure. And we have we
Speaker 1: have noted that as as the chemistry was coming together
Speaker 1: between between Zach and Lane, and now it's really blossomed
Speaker 1: where we're just loving what you're doing. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: your skills as an actor are really coming to the four,
Speaker 1: not that they weren't before, but now it's like there's
Speaker 1: this other side to Zach, this vulnerable side, which is fascinating.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely fascinating how you're handling it. Do you remember
Speaker 1: getting the scripts and seeing that, Oh, yay, I get
Speaker 1: to do you know, I get to show some different
Speaker 1: colors here?
Speaker 3: And oh of course.
Speaker 2: I mean I think every actor when we get a script,
Speaker 2: we immediately flip to where's my where's my character's Then
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll read the whole episode after.
Speaker 3: I go through all my stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm seeing, oh, I'm liking Lane with their glasses
Speaker 2: and there's going to be a kiss, and yeah, that's
Speaker 2: just it's just delicious. I got something new to go there.
Speaker 2: I mean, Zach's kind of adult and I sometimes I
Speaker 2: maybe I made some easy choices, just making them a
Speaker 2: little dim and but and the writers found my voice
Speaker 2: and my rhythms and my cadence, so it wasn't a
Speaker 2: difficult second.
Speaker 3: Skin to step into and put on.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: Just it fit and then you can speak honestly and emotionally.
Speaker 2: And then I thought Kiko and I had a pretty
Speaker 2: nice chemistry. And I'm glad to hear that some people
Speaker 2: think it came across on the screen.
Speaker 1: Oh it really does. And I hear you judging your
Speaker 1: character and your work describing him as adult. He I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, from my point of view and our point
Speaker 1: of view, the comedy really pomped because of that choice.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't question it. I thought it was actually
Speaker 1: kind of brilliant. And I think by making him that way,
Speaker 1: now this other side that's coming out is so surprising
Speaker 1: and it is fun. It's so much fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Now we're all like, we need more Zach and Lane.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here questioning what took them so long?
Speaker 1: And Why didn't they use you? They know you, they
Speaker 1: know you have chops, they know you could pull it off.
Speaker 1: Why didn't they use you? Know your character could have
Speaker 1: become as relevant in the show as you know? Gosh,
Speaker 1: who can I compare it to? Who? You know?
Speaker 3: It could have?
Speaker 1: You could have, You could have and should have had
Speaker 1: as much work to do as Lane. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, did you ever Here's a question
Speaker 1: I already know the answer to, but I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you anyway. Did you ever approach producers and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'd love some more. What do you think? Did you
Speaker 1: ever feel like you could contribute more and wanted to
Speaker 1: and said that to producers because I think the show
Speaker 1: really benefits from it.
Speaker 2: I certainly felt that, but I didn't want to stir
Speaker 2: any feathers and ruffle any feathers.
Speaker 3: And stir the pots and be a squeaky wheel. I
Speaker 3: was grateful to what they.
Speaker 2: Gave me, and Amy and her staff like they did.
Speaker 2: It built for a while, but it was I did
Speaker 2: get a lot to contribute, and the music stuff was
Speaker 2: fun to do, and getting together with Helen Pie and
Speaker 2: having band rehearsals and learning what song we were going
Speaker 2: to do that week, and I can play the guitar
Speaker 2: a little bit, so I got to use that skill.
Speaker 2: And I'm no, I didn't go and ask them. I
Speaker 2: didn't have that kind of confidence to say, hey, right
Speaker 2: for me more.
Speaker 3: I'm just I was just grateful to be on the show.
Speaker 1: Right. What's happening now between Zach and Lane is terrific.
Speaker 1: It's it's as entertaining and as funny as anything that's
Speaker 1: been on that show.
Speaker 3: How good.
Speaker 1: It's shocking. It's really shocking that they laid off the
Speaker 1: gas on that character for so long and now look
Speaker 1: what it's producing. Is I I hope there's more of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never seen the series, so I'm
Speaker 1: watching it for the first time each time, and then
Speaker 1: we're doing a podcast about it. But I hope there's more.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me. I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 1: this surprise to be ruined.
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: You were so uninformed, Scott, incredibly uninformed when it comes
Speaker 2: to this show.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, you know, I was doing it all
Speaker 1: the time. I didn't want to go home and watch it, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You had longer hours than I did, and I can
Speaker 3: understand getting figged right.
Speaker 1: I just I just needed to get away from it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like recharge. So you've been well. No, actually,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the auditioning process. Do you tell me
Speaker 1: about the audition and did you know once you got
Speaker 1: it that Zach would be a long standing character.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: What I remember from the audition is I came in.
Speaker 2: They wanted a guitar and they wanted me to sing,
Speaker 2: just do any kind of performance with a guitar. So
Speaker 2: I was playing in a little kind of a comedy
Speaker 2: band where we were this German pop band and we
Speaker 2: were playing just at clubs in Hollywood, and I had
Speaker 2: translated a pixie song which is where Is My Mind?
Speaker 2: And I translated it into German in a very bad
Speaker 2: kind of broken German, but enough to where the cadence
Speaker 2: and the words would line up. So I sang that
Speaker 2: Pixie song in German and they liked it and they said,
Speaker 2: what else do you have?
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I think I sang a Smith
Speaker 3: song or something.
Speaker 2: And they said thank you, and then I don't know,
Speaker 2: a few hours later, I got a call and it's
Speaker 2: you love to get those calls.
Speaker 3: It's like be there on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So you translated a Pixie song into German.
Speaker 3: I had already had that in my pocket and was performing.
Speaker 1: It and and what and can you give us just
Speaker 1: a brief sample of it if you can remember anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, him on trick on being nice. Yeah, then climb
Speaker 3: and fish bumping to me. Yeah, I'm a cross, try
Speaker 3: to wait? Wait wait? Bo is Mine cult? Where is
Speaker 3: my mind? Oh? Is mine Cult? That was the song?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you would perform this live, yeah, with a
Speaker 1: band with a band, and people.
Speaker 3: Would love it.
Speaker 1: The audience was Yeah, they were in on the joke
Speaker 1: and they loved it. And I playing a.
Speaker 3: Little bar band right now, and it's still in the
Speaker 3: set list.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's wonderful. That's really good stuff. It's well, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about those bands. You've been a part of
Speaker 1: a couple different bands, so that made Zach and easy
Speaker 1: fit for you. Tell us a little bit about the
Speaker 1: band you're playing in, right, Oh.
Speaker 2: I've been playing in different bar bands. It's not my
Speaker 2: first pursuit. My first pursuit is an actor, and I
Speaker 2: have a little bit of not contempt, but I certainly
Speaker 2: don't want to go see some actors band.
Speaker 3: I don't care how good Kevin Bacon's band is.
Speaker 2: I'd rather see Kevin Bacon in a movie and if
Speaker 2: it's there, I'll sit and watch, but I don't really
Speaker 2: want to pay a ticket. And same thing with Billy
Speaker 2: Bob Thornton Keanu Reeves is like, I like you guys
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 3: Don't be a rock star?
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what I found, I so
Speaker 1: agree with you. I can't agree with you more because
Speaker 1: I saw I was so curious about Billy Bob Thornton's band,
Speaker 1: and I watched a couple of videos and he made
Speaker 1: he made actual videos that were, like, you know, pretty
Speaker 1: good production value. They spent some money on his videos.
Speaker 1: And the band's great and the music great. He's not
Speaker 1: a front man. He's got no energy. I'm sorry. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just not a good singer. He's not. And God
Speaker 1: bless him for being out there and doing it and
Speaker 1: getting all the fun. And I understand that impulse because
Speaker 1: I did it too. And but that's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: it's like, you know as well as I do. You know,
Speaker 1: having a great front man is everything. If you don't
Speaker 1: have that, you're not gonna go to the top, you
Speaker 1: might not even go to the middle right, right, And
Speaker 1: it's amazing how good some of these bands are. And
Speaker 1: if you don't have a really special guy or gal
Speaker 1: singing you, it's gonna be a tough road.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, those guys have the cachet to go out and
Speaker 2: hire the best sidement in the business, right and to
Speaker 2: cover their expenses. It can be a vanity project. But
Speaker 2: I don't have pockets thater that deep. I'm fortunate to
Speaker 2: have good friends that are really talented.
Speaker 1: Right. So have you ever seen an actor or an
Speaker 1: entertainment personality that was a good front person?
Speaker 3: Well, Jamie Fox is at.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: Usually it's the musician. What a surprised when they give
Speaker 2: a good acting performance. I can say Dwight Yoakam in
Speaker 2: Sling Play, He's amazing.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was really chilling us.
Speaker 2: And that's when we appreciate more. Like I'm sure Keanu
Speaker 2: Reeves band is awesome, but he but.
Speaker 1: He was smart enough to stand off to the side.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, plays the base, which is like exactly what
Speaker 1: I was telling my crew. I said, I can't be
Speaker 1: the front guy. Yeah, I'm not a good enough singer
Speaker 1: and I don't have that thing that you need to
Speaker 1: be like a great singer, which is a great voice.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have that. I have to work
Speaker 1: my ass off just to sound sort of passable. Sometimes
Speaker 1: that's not a good omen, right, So it's like stand
Speaker 1: off to the side and let the really talented take
Speaker 1: care of your music, right, and assist it in some
Speaker 1: way or else if you can't get the hell out
Speaker 1: of the band.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some actors have done. I mean I think
Speaker 1: j Loo has done pretty well.
Speaker 3: Right. Does she start as an actor? She started as
Speaker 3: a fly girl.
Speaker 1: She started as a dance she's a triple threat. Yeah, singing, dancing, acting, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she's had a big career. She's good at that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could talk all day about this. Let's
Speaker 1: speaking of frontmen that have that thing. Sebastian Bach has
Speaker 1: that thing. Yes, that is a bona fide front man. Yes,
Speaker 1: who stands in front of a band can scream into
Speaker 1: a microphone and sound incredible, right, I mean that guy
Speaker 1: can bring the house down. So you got to work
Speaker 1: closely with him. What was your first meeting with him?
Speaker 2: Like, oh, well, I'm going to try to keep it PG.
Speaker 2: I do remember It's like what Sebastian Bach. It's that
Speaker 2: guy who I saw when I was fifteen years old
Speaker 2: at the summit in Houston, skin Roll opening up for
Speaker 2: bon Jovi.
Speaker 3: And he came in.
Speaker 2: He had one scene where he's supposed to be a
Speaker 2: guitarist in the band, right, and he all those years
Speaker 2: in rock and roll, he's not a guitarist.
Speaker 3: He's a singer.
Speaker 4: And he had the most difficult time just getting his
Speaker 4: electric guitar, unplugging the guitar cable and then putting it
Speaker 4: into a case, and just it kind of had to
Speaker 4: happen quickly in that Gilmore girls rhy him and we're
Speaker 4: all leaving the room and just like it was like
Speaker 4: a monkey with a puzzle putting in the stars in
Speaker 4: a circular hole.
Speaker 3: He just couldn't figure out how to put that guitar
Speaker 3: in the case.
Speaker 2: And John and I were just snickering and he's like
Speaker 2: and then he you know, starts cursing. He gets frustrated,
Speaker 2: and eighties like, it's okay, we'll get it in the cutaway.
Speaker 3: We don't have to show you. And you know, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't know what I look at it, him know what
Speaker 3: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And but he was such a warm, gregarious personality.
Speaker 3: I really can't say a bad thing about that guy.
Speaker 3: I'm proud to have shared screen with him.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of gone out to the Rainbow with him.
Speaker 3: That's as close as I've ever been to crazy rock
Speaker 3: starred him.
Speaker 1: I had the same experience. I went to the Rainbow
Speaker 1: with him. It was it was fun.
Speaker 2: What a night we all we I don't know if
Speaker 2: you were there that night, but it was one of
Speaker 2: the early ones.
Speaker 3: And then of course that's his kingdom.
Speaker 2: And for those who are listening, the Rainbow Room is
Speaker 2: this rock and roll, heavy metal club on on Sunset Strip.
Speaker 3: And we sat down.
Speaker 2: They bring us to a really nice table and let's
Speaker 2: everybody watch pizza pizza and uh yeah, what you like
Speaker 2: on your pizza? And it's like pepperoni and oh here
Speaker 2: comes Ron Jeremy over to say hello.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he uh yeah, I mean just.
Speaker 3: High fives all around, always about the high five.
Speaker 1: That's an entire two hour podcast in and of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should actually do a podcast based on him. Amazing character.
Speaker 1: How long has it been since you watched your episode back?
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of these episodes before you came
Speaker 1: on or you're just like.
Speaker 3: No, occasionally somebody will send me. I stumbled across a
Speaker 3: YouTube clip of there's a scene of the diner.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've gotten to it in your viewing,
Speaker 2: but well, there's the proposal, I have the lane, which
Speaker 2: is a really sweet scene. And then there's another scene
Speaker 2: where I hear that I like her better with her
Speaker 2: glasses on, and I thought, oh, I kind of handled
Speaker 2: that well.
Speaker 3: That scene went well. If but I get too self conscious.
Speaker 2: If Gilmore Girls is playing on someone's TV, it's.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I gotta get squirmy and leave the room.
Speaker 1: Just I don't want to see myselvan right right, right right.
Speaker 2: I was thinking before this little video podcast, I was
Speaker 2: going to have it on in the background on the
Speaker 2: TV behind me.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I just play it all the time, right,
Speaker 3: just so in the rare chance that'll get more residuals.
Speaker 3: It just it's always.
Speaker 1: Playing right right. So we recapped the parties over. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit ago, but as one of the
Speaker 1: scene where missus Kim is screaming at you at the
Speaker 1: new stand, what do you remember about filming that scene
Speaker 1: with Emily Corota, because that was I loved you in
Speaker 1: that scene, because you had a job to do in
Speaker 1: that scene, which was to be, you know, to react
Speaker 1: to what she was doing, and it was just really funny.
Speaker 1: What you were doing was so funny because you didn't
Speaker 1: do too much, and that's sometimes the hardest stuff to do.
Speaker 3: Catch me up. What was she chastising me about?
Speaker 1: I think just the fact that you were dating Lane, okay,
Speaker 1: and I somehow she found out, I think. And you
Speaker 1: were at the news stand and there was that guy,
Speaker 1: that young guy. Uh oh, and the guy was yelling
Speaker 1: at you because you come to the new stand and
Speaker 1: you read, but you don't pay for it, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: And then Emily Grooda comes up and just just drills you,
Speaker 1: you know, just a surprise attack, and you just you
Speaker 1: just turn and you're so befuddled and flustered.
Speaker 2: And is that the episode She says, Well, if she's
Speaker 2: going to be dating you, we need to improve your
Speaker 2: songwriting or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've gotten there yet.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: It was just an all out of assault on Zach
Speaker 1: in public. I mean, she just unloaded both barrels on you,
Speaker 1: called you a dog from hell, and you know all
Speaker 1: kinds of things, and that when you go to hell,
Speaker 1: the dogs of Hell will be eating your guts and
Speaker 1: things like that, hell hounds, we're gonna get you and
Speaker 1: the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's starting to trigger memory.
Speaker 1: And oh no, no, And it led to the funniest
Speaker 1: dialogue and the funniest scene because you were like you
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Lane after that at back at
Speaker 1: your apartment saying, you know, this isn't rock and roll, man,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't do this.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like I get I get the chicks and I
Speaker 1: do music. I don't like do moms or you know,
Speaker 1: yelling at me in the street, you know, this kind
Speaker 1: of a thing. And it was we were crying. We
Speaker 1: were laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: Oh I've got to catch up on that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, brilliance, absolute todd low brilliance.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you for the compliments.
Speaker 1: Great stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't quite remember that moment. Oh god, I'll take
Speaker 3: another one.
Speaker 1: How could you not? I mean it was a crowning
Speaker 1: achievement in comedic acting. So okay, so we're at the
Speaker 1: beginning stage of Zach and Leake's relationship. Finally, it's it's
Speaker 1: bubbling up a little bit. But they they recently had
Speaker 1: a first date and kissed. Were you excited? Uh, they
Speaker 1: were gonna make Zach Lane's boyfriend. Did you know of
Speaker 1: their plans? Did you? Did they hint to you that
Speaker 1: this was going to happen?
Speaker 2: No. I did a little bit of the math myself,
Speaker 2: because I knew the hell and Pie and her actual
Speaker 2: husband and he played behind the curtain in Pat Bailey
Speaker 2: and he played the bass for John. His name was
Speaker 2: Dave Rigalski, and so I kind of did the math.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I think the character a Lane.
Speaker 2: It's based on Amy's childhood friend, who is a Korean
Speaker 2: American and a Seventh Day Adventist. He's dating this boy
Speaker 2: named David Galaski.
Speaker 3: He left.
Speaker 2: I honestly thought, well, they're going to bring another young
Speaker 2: guy in here to be Lane's fella. And then it
Speaker 2: started to fall to me and it's like, yes, just
Speaker 2: like this pump and oh there's a kiss when they
Speaker 2: wrote it so well, because the first kiss happens when
Speaker 2: I'm actually holding John on my shoulder putting into bed.
Speaker 3: To think he did he have too much to drink
Speaker 3: or something, or why he was out?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, a minute. Yeah, I guess that's right.
Speaker 3: Yes, we were just watching a video or something. He
Speaker 3: fell asleep.
Speaker 1: We told him to go to her room, and he
Speaker 1: fell asleep in her bed. That's right, that's what happened,
Speaker 1: because you guys were on a date in the living room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a date where my best bud is also in
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's there, and we were kind of Marveling's like
Speaker 1: that you picked him up and hoisted him over your
Speaker 1: shoulder and carried him out. I mean, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: that heavy, was he. No, John's he's like one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds or something. He's really He's really not heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't taxing at the time. I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to try it now.
Speaker 1: But well, so what's your opinion? What is your personal opinion?
Speaker 1: You think lack? Does Zach and Lane make a good couple?
Speaker 3: I do, just because I have a stake in it.
Speaker 2: I know the Internet shippers somem aren't that big of
Speaker 2: a fan of Zach and Lane, and I can appreciate
Speaker 2: that perspective.
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, tough business. That's the way it
Speaker 3: inded out it was written. Yeah, maybe I wasn't the greatest.
Speaker 3: But uh, but.
Speaker 2: She got Zack out of his little philandering and he
Speaker 2: eventually he became sweet to her and he cared about her.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: Uh, when they go to Mexico for their.
Speaker 2: Honeymoon and to consummate the marriage that they wrote it
Speaker 2: and it wasn't that great, and she gets pregnant on
Speaker 2: the first.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking my headphones off. I can't. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it yet. You're giving me spoilers. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to somehow forget about that anyway. All right, so listen,
Speaker 1: you come back. We got to do a part two. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh I'd love to.
Speaker 2: This half hour just flew by. So you can find
Speaker 2: me on the socials if you just look hard enough.
Speaker 3: I'm there.
Speaker 1: You got it, man, you got it, and go seex
Speaker 1: Za's band, Zach's Man, Todd's band.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Well you guys playing somewhere locally la soon. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We're called t Low and Friends. T Low for Todd Low,
Speaker 3: t Low and Friends. You can you can find us.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, All the best, my friend, all right.
Speaker 5: Thanks, Scott, all the best, all right, dot.
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