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Speaker 1: I Am all In You.

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Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson one on one interview with Todd Lowe.

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Speaker 1: He played Zach for forty two episodes two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two two thousand and seven. First appearance was a season

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Speaker 1: three episode four One's Got Class, The Other One Dies

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Speaker 1: dye as his last appearance season seven episode twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Bond by Age. He also appeared in three episodes of

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Speaker 1: A Year in the Life, Winter, Spring, and Summer. His

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Speaker 1: character Zach first appeared season three along with Brian and Dave.

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Speaker 1: He's the lead guitars and singer of the band Lane

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Speaker 1: Joins hep Alien Uh. He was later revealed to be

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Speaker 1: also one of the main songwriters in Alien, mostly writing

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Speaker 1: songs about girls and naming those songs after those girls.

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Speaker 1: Here's a little bit about Todd's background. He's a graduate

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Speaker 1: of the University of Texas Austin, graduating with a Bachelor

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Speaker 1: of Fine Arts degree in nineteen ninety nine. While looking

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Speaker 1: for jobs as an actor, Todd worked as a substitute teacher.

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Speaker 1: He is best known for his roles on HBO's True

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Speaker 1: Blood Gilmore Girls, Where the Heart Is Avenue forty three

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Speaker 1: and Shooter, in addition to television film he started He

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Speaker 1: started over twenty stage productions and has worked on several

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Speaker 1: plays written by playwright Justin Tanner. He's also been a

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Speaker 1: singer and guitarist for Pivoli Nights and a country rock

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Speaker 1: band based in Los Angeles. He's currently a member of

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Speaker 1: another rock band in La the La Hooton Nanny and

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Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's bring in toddlow Houdi, Scott, how

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Speaker 1: you doing, Todd? Is it true you were a substitute

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Speaker 1: teacher before acting? What was your favorite subject to teach?

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Speaker 1: If that is true? And I know it is true,

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Speaker 1: but tell us a little bit about that.

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Speaker 3: I worked as I was.

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Speaker 2: I went to I grew up in Texas, and I

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Speaker 2: went to school at the University of Texas in Austin,

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Speaker 2: and I did a lot of museum education as a

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Speaker 2: side hustle. And there was one time when I was

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Speaker 2: asked to substitute in at a monasory school, and I

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Speaker 2: had no training as into the monassory education disciplines. So

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Speaker 2: I basically found myself just like a babysitter, trying not

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Speaker 2: to say the word no because it's a different type

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Speaker 2: of discipline. So I found myself saying no students, I mean,

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Speaker 2: don't But I did that for maybe a week, but

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Speaker 2: most of my stuff was in museum education.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what was the role that got you out

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Speaker 3: Well? Help it was well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, what got me out of Austin was

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Speaker 2: love because my girlfriend at the time got accepted into

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Speaker 3: I had booked a.

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Speaker 2: Couple little jobs in Texas and was SAG eligible, and

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Speaker 2: it made sense to come to La with her. We

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Speaker 2: didn't last very long and I came out here. I

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Speaker 2: worked at the Children's Museum of Los Angeles. Then they

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Speaker 2: kind of knew that I had aspirations of being an actor.

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Speaker 2: I got cast in a play at South Coast Repertory

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Speaker 2: in Orange County and went down there. I got my

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Speaker 2: equity card exposure to a better agent, which signed me,

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Speaker 2: and then I was living on unemployment two week and

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Speaker 2: kind of quit teaching. And then Gilmore Girls kind of happened,

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Speaker 2: and I thought it was just one episode. In fact,

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Speaker 2: the same week I had gotten a part on a

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Speaker 2: small little part on NYPD Blue, and I wanted to

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Speaker 2: take that because my parents watched that show, and.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't know anything about Gilmore Girls, and.

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Speaker 3: My agent wisely steered me.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, I think you want to do this

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Speaker 2: more appearances, and then bam it turned into like forty

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Speaker 1: What did your agent tell you about the show that

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Speaker 1: was so special about it that you had to do it?

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Speaker 2: They said, it's the comedy. The pacing is very unique.

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Speaker 2: It lends itself to actors who have had stage work

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Speaker 2: with the memorizations and the rhythm of the dialogue, and

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Speaker 2: actors who have had a little bit of stage work

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Speaker 2: And I thought, he said, I think it suits your

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Speaker 1: I tell you, we're getting into season five. We we're

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Speaker 1: ten episodes into season five, and you're finally getting some

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Speaker 1: really juicy stuff to do with Lane. You know, the

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Speaker 1: relationship is becoming really interesting. You're able to show different

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good. Fortunately for me, Adam Brody Dave Rigowski got.

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Speaker 2: guess I was next in line. I think because he

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Speaker 1: Big shoes to fill for sure. And we have we

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Speaker 1: have noted that as as the chemistry was coming together

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Speaker 1: where we're just loving what you're doing. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: your skills as an actor are really coming to the four,

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Speaker 1: not that they weren't before, but now it's like there's

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Speaker 1: this other side to Zach, this vulnerable side, which is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely fascinating how you're handling it. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: getting the scripts and seeing that, Oh, yay, I get

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Speaker 1: to do you know, I get to show some different

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Speaker 3: And oh of course.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think every actor when we get a script,

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Speaker 2: we immediately flip to where's my where's my character's Then

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll read the whole episode after.

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Speaker 3: I go through all my stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I'm seeing, oh, I'm liking Lane with their glasses

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Speaker 2: and there's going to be a kiss, and yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: just it's just delicious. I got something new to go there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Zach's kind of adult and I sometimes I

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Speaker 2: maybe I made some easy choices, just making them a

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Speaker 3: Skin to step into and put on.

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Speaker 2: Just it fit and then you can speak honestly and emotionally.

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Speaker 2: And then I thought Kiko and I had a pretty

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Speaker 2: nice chemistry. And I'm glad to hear that some people

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Speaker 2: think it came across on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Oh it really does. And I hear you judging your

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Speaker 1: character and your work describing him as adult. He I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, from my point of view and our point

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Speaker 1: of view, the comedy really pomped because of that choice.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't question it. I thought it was actually

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Speaker 1: now this other side that's coming out is so surprising

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Speaker 1: and it is fun. It's so much fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Now we're all like, we need more Zach and Lane.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here questioning what took them so long?

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Speaker 1: And Why didn't they use you? They know you, they

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Speaker 1: know you have chops, they know you could pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't they use you? Know your character could have

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Speaker 1: become as relevant in the show as you know? Gosh,

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Speaker 1: who can I compare it to? Who? You know?

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Speaker 3: It could have?

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Speaker 1: You could have, You could have and should have had

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Speaker 1: as much work to do as Lane. You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, did you ever Here's a question

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Speaker 1: I already know the answer to, but I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you anyway. Did you ever approach producers and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'd love some more. What do you think? Did you

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Speaker 1: ever feel like you could contribute more and wanted to

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Speaker 1: and said that to producers because I think the show

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Speaker 2: I certainly felt that, but I didn't want to stir

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Speaker 3: And stir the pots and be a squeaky wheel. I

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Speaker 3: was grateful to what they.

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Speaker 2: Gave me, and Amy and her staff like they did.

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Speaker 2: It built for a while, but it was I did

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Speaker 2: get a lot to contribute, and the music stuff was

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Speaker 2: fun to do, and getting together with Helen Pie and

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Speaker 2: having band rehearsals and learning what song we were going

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Speaker 2: to do that week, and I can play the guitar

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Speaker 2: a little bit, so I got to use that skill.

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Speaker 2: And I'm no, I didn't go and ask them. I

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Speaker 2: didn't have that kind of confidence to say, hey, right

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Speaker 3: I'm just I was just grateful to be on the show.

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Speaker 1: Right. What's happening now between Zach and Lane is terrific.

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Speaker 1: It's it's as entertaining and as funny as anything that's

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Speaker 3: How good.

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Speaker 1: It's shocking. It's really shocking that they laid off the

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Speaker 1: what it's producing. Is I I hope there's more of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never seen the series, so I'm

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Speaker 1: watching it for the first time each time, and then

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Speaker 1: we're doing a podcast about it. But I hope there's more.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me. I don't want to. I don't want

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: You were so uninformed, Scott, incredibly uninformed when it comes

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Speaker 2: to this show.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like, you know, I was doing it all

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Speaker 1: the time. I didn't want to go home and watch it, right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You had longer hours than I did, and I can

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Speaker 1: I just I just needed to get away from it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just like recharge. So you've been well. No, actually,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the auditioning process. Do you tell me

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Speaker 1: about the audition and did you know once you got

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: What I remember from the audition is I came in.

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Speaker 2: They wanted a guitar and they wanted me to sing,

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Speaker 2: just do any kind of performance with a guitar. So

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Speaker 2: I was playing in a little kind of a comedy

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Speaker 2: band where we were this German pop band and we

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Speaker 2: were playing just at clubs in Hollywood, and I had

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Speaker 2: translated a pixie song which is where Is My Mind?

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Speaker 2: And I translated it into German in a very bad

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Speaker 2: what else do you have?

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Speaker 3: And I don't know. I think I sang a Smith

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Speaker 2: And they said thank you, and then I don't know,

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Speaker 2: a few hours later, I got a call and it's

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Speaker 2: you love to get those calls.

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Speaker 3: It's like be there on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So you translated a Pixie song into German.

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Speaker 3: I had already had that in my pocket and was performing.

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Speaker 1: It and and what and can you give us just

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Speaker 1: a brief sample of it if you can remember anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, him on trick on being nice. Yeah, then climb

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Speaker 3: and fish bumping to me. Yeah, I'm a cross, try

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Speaker 3: to wait? Wait wait? Bo is Mine cult? Where is

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Speaker 3: my mind? Oh? Is mine Cult? That was the song?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you would perform this live, yeah, with a

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Speaker 1: band with a band, and people.

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Speaker 3: Would love it.

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Speaker 1: The audience was Yeah, they were in on the joke

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Speaker 3: Little bar band right now, and it's still in the

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Speaker 1: It was just an all out of assault on Zach

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Speaker 1: And oh no, no, And it led to the funniest

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Speaker 1: It's like I get I get the chicks and I

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Speaker 1: How could you not? I mean it was a crowning

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Speaker 2: guy in here to be Lane's fella. And then it

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Speaker 2: started to fall to me and it's like, yes, just

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Speaker 2: like this pump and oh there's a kiss when they

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Speaker 2: I'm actually holding John on my shoulder putting into bed.

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Speaker 3: To think he did he have too much to drink

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Speaker 3: or something, or why he was out?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, a minute. Yeah, I guess that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we were just watching a video or something. He

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Speaker 3: fell asleep.

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Speaker 1: We told him to go to her room, and he

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Speaker 1: fell asleep in her bed. That's right, that's what happened,

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Speaker 1: because you guys were on a date in the living room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a date where my best bud is also in

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Speaker 2: the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's there, and we were kind of Marveling's like

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Speaker 1: that you picked him up and hoisted him over your

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Speaker 1: shoulder and carried him out. I mean, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: that heavy, was he. No, John's he's like one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty pounds or something. He's really He's really not heavy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't taxing at the time. I wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to try it now.

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Speaker 1: But well, so what's your opinion? What is your personal opinion?

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Speaker 1: You think lack? Does Zach and Lane make a good couple?

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Speaker 3: I do, just because I have a stake in it.

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Speaker 2: I know the Internet shippers somem aren't that big of

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Speaker 3: And it's like, well, tough business. That's the way it

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Speaker 3: inded out it was written. Yeah, maybe I wasn't the greatest.

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Speaker 3: But uh, but.

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Speaker 2: She got Zack out of his little philandering and he

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Speaker 2: eventually he became sweet to her and he cared about her.

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 3: Uh, when they go to Mexico for their.

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Speaker 2: Honeymoon and to consummate the marriage that they wrote it

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't that great, and she gets pregnant on

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Speaker 2: the first.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking my headphones off. I can't. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it yet. You're giving me spoilers. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to somehow forget about that anyway. All right, so listen,

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Speaker 1: you come back. We got to do a part two. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Oh I'd love to.

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Speaker 2: This half hour just flew by. So you can find

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Speaker 2: me on the socials if you just look hard enough.

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Speaker 3: I'm there.

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Speaker 1: You got it, man, you got it, and go seex

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Speaker 1: Za's band, Zach's Man, Todd's band.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Well you guys playing somewhere locally la soon. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We're called t Low and Friends. T Low for Todd Low,

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Speaker 3: t Low and Friends. You can you can find us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, All the best, my friend, all right.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, Scott, all the best, all right, dot.

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