1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, April tenth, and his 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: own friend haint By in his story. But that welcome 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose. We've kept 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: a close eye on this story from the moment we 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: heard that a Michigan woman went overboard and a dinghy 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: with her husband in the Bahamas. He's now been arrested. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: We heard from the woman's daughter, who raids some questions. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Now we are hearing from his friend, the accused friends, 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: who quite frankly robes some of the stuff he said 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: is more damning than anything we've heard so far. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: Yes, this was fascinating. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: First of all, why his friend would share these text 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: messages he received from Brian Hooker, who, yes, has been 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: under arrest since Wednesday in the disappearance of his wife, 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: fifty five year old Lynette Hooker. He has not been 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: charged yet, we should point out and police it's a 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: little interesting what the Behamian officials said, but they said 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: they had forty eight hours to either charge him or 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: release him. That would be at some point today, But 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: then they added they can also extend that for another 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: ninety six hours if they think it's necessary, so he 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: could be behind bars for a few more days before 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: charges are filed. But these new text messages, whoo, they 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: say a lot. 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: And right now this case is a case of he said, 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and she can't say anything because she is presumed dead. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: This is a search and recovery at this point. But 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: this was last Saturday. Robes Brian Hooker fifty eight and 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Lynette Hooker fifty five, fifty five. They've been married now, 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: how long? 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Twenty five years? 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: All right, So they go out in the boat. These 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: are avid boat they know what they're doing on the water. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: His story is they go out on the water around sundown. 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: She some kind of way falls over into the water. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: They get separated. He couldn't recover her. She has the 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: key to the boat on her when she goes into 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: the water, according to him, and then he has to 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: essentially paddle back to shore. Took several hours. That's his 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: story and he's sticking to it. Robes. Not long after that, 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the daughter of Lynnette started speaking and saying, this doesn't 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: make She didn't flat out of cues, but she at 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: least raised some questions. Okay, that catches us up. He 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: is now in custody. His friend has now done in 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: an interview Roads with CBS News and shared text messages 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: he said he got from Brian Hooker after this whole accident. Now, 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I will let you know we will read this whole 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: the text messages to you. That's one thing. The interview 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: and the list of things the friend ticks off as 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: to why his friend's story is bullshit. You have to 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: pay attention it is. 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: I actually couldn't even believe I was reading it as 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself, this is his friend who's 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: saying this. But yes, we'll start with the messages that 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: he shared. His name is Daniel Danforth, by the way, 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: and they met twenty twenty three, so they've been friends 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: for a couple of years. They're all voting advocates and 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 3: love voting, so that's why they have this shared love 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: and that's how they all became friends. So he says, 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: on Monday, he sees the headlines that Lynette has fallen overboard, 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: so he reaches out to Brian and says, well, there's 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: a little something before that, but we can get to 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: that later. First of all, this is what Brian Hooker 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: responded to him with, Yes, brother, I'm afraid so off 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: the dinghy in some choppy seas. On the way back 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: to the sailboat, the wind blew me away from her 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: and she swam towards the sailboat, and we lost sight 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: of each other pretty quickly. As it was just about sundown. 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: I drifted and tried to paddle with one oar for 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: the next seven hours until I washed up behind the 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: shore of the next island over and was able to 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: get some help. Finally, we are all still searching. A 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: lot is going on right now, but I thank you 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: for checking in on us. Being on the news is 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: a huge burden, and I just had my first ever 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: news organization call me a few minutes ago. He went 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: on to say, our family is in hell right now. 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: Search and Rescue just called and said they had searched 79 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: a bunch of air is today and no joy. They 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: are going back out tomorrow, but a storm is coming 81 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: in Wednesday. 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So now let's go back up to the first 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: part of that, and you tell me. Robes as he's 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: describing to his friend in private and a text message 85 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: that he thought would never get public, he's explained it 86 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: to him what happened. How does that mesh with the story. 87 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: At least authorities are saying that they were told. Does 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: that match with what he told police about the incident? 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, because, according to police, Brian 90 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: Hooker told them that she fell into the water and 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: they immediately drifted apart. He didn't say that she was 92 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: okay when she got in the water and started swimming 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: towards the sailboat. That is a completely new piece of 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: information that if he told that to police, police did 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: not reveal that publicly. So that is a very new 96 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: and different version of what we've been told. 97 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay, the other thing in there had to do what 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: suggestion did he make in there about weather? Because it 99 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: was hard for people understand she immediately falls out a boat. 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Why can we just reach out and grab her. How 101 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: did you all of a sudden get separated? So what's 102 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: his description in the text, at least about weather? 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: First he said that it was the choppy seas that 104 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: kind of threw her overboard, which seems a little suspicious. 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: I don't know if we had reports of wild weather 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: where you would actually. 107 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: Fall out of an eight foot hard bottomed dinghy. But okay, 108 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: who's a woman who's very skilled in boating and swimming, 109 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: and she's been doing it her entire life. Then he says, 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: the wind blew me away from her, and she swam 111 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: towards the sailboat. 112 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Okay, wait towards the sailboat. Yes, a different the. 113 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Other well, that's their yacht. 114 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: So they were in the dinghy having just left a place, 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: and they were on their way to the sailboat. 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I did not catch this before. Okay, that's different. When 117 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you were explaining this, I was reading it. I took 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: it as he was swimming. She was swimming maybe trying 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: to get back towards him and the ding He's saying, 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: she fell out this boat that's closed by, and she 121 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: tried to go swim to one that's farther away. 122 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 2: Correct. Huh, it makes no sense. 123 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: Huh. Okay, I didn't piece that together first time. 124 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, So then the friend, uh this is oh wow. 125 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: The friend Daniel Danforth, then asked him if he had 126 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: anywhere to stay. It was just kind of checking in 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: on him, and Brian wrote this, I got the boat 128 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: back to marsh Harbor yesterday after the fire department brought 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: me back my dinghy. Notice I he was saying, my 130 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: not our I'm on a moorning ball at a place 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: called conk in on the boat. My sister and brother 132 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: in law are flying in later this morning to stay 133 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: for a couple of days. I'll probably stay with them 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: for a night or two while weather happens, but then 135 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: I plan on heading back out to the site and 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: continuing to search. I will most definitely need help in 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: the future, but I just don't know what it is yet. 138 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to take it one day at a time, 139 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: keep the faith. Search and rescue is out today before 140 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: some big winds to come tomorrow. It's interesting because the 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: friend says, Okay, well, I'm going to be getting a sailboat. 142 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: We're going to be moving around, but let us know 143 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: if we can help you, And then he just says, 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: congratulations on your sailboat, captain, and thanks for your kind offers. 145 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: I'll be in touch as events unfold. 146 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: It just seemed a little Some people pointed out that 147 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: just seemed a little strange, like, really. 148 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: Tom seems off. But really, I don't want to suggest 149 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: how anybody might feel if you just lost the love 150 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: of your life in an accident in the water. 151 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Congratulations on the new sailboat, captain. 152 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Who am I to say? But it gets better now 153 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: you listed at least I think four right things that 154 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: the friend says that it actually goes through and says this, this, this, 155 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: and this don't make sense. All right, take it from 156 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: the top. These are all blew my mind. 157 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, this is why his friend, mister Danforth said 158 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: he is very suspicious. First of all, he said that 159 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: he thought of Brian around Sunday. I guess it was 160 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: on the weekend, so it was after Lynette went missing, 161 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: but before the headlines really started. 162 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: So he just noticed Brian. 163 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: He got a Facebook notification on his phone that said 164 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: Brian Hooker liked a comment that his wife shared about boating. 165 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: So he said, Brian was actually on my mind because like, oh, 166 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: Brian's liking a comment my wife put on Facebook on Sunday, 167 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden the headline started popping up, 168 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: and so dead forthtold CBS News, you know, my wife's missing. 169 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: Facebook's the last. 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: Thing I'm worried about. You're going to find me on 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: the water writing around, not on Facebook. So he thought 172 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: that was first initially very suspicious, like that's so weird. 173 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: He was liking my wife's comment while his wife was missing, 174 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: was about boting. I just don't give something random about 175 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: how she loves voting. 176 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: It's odd even to be on Facebook, but that's one 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: thing to go through and have them Okay, Yes, that 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: is incredibly odd, even if you know you're going to 179 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: be a suspect. 180 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: It's stupid, it really is. 181 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: Then he also questioned why Brian moved his boat immediately 182 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: after Lynette went missing. 183 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: He just thought that was a range thing to do. 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: You're worried about repositioning your boat somewhere, Yes, the larger sailboat. 185 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: He just thought that was strange. 186 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Why is that on his mind at all? 187 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Exactly? 188 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he needed to He was renting a slip for 189 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: a little while and it was running out. 190 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: This is an avid boater who just said, that's not 191 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: something that makes sense. So that's what he was explaining. 192 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: With his experience with boats, he just thought that was 193 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: a strange thing. Then he also said that the messages 194 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: he received did not jibe with what Brian told police. 195 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: He said that, yes, Brian told authorities Lynnette was swept overboard, 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: but then he wrote to me that she was swimming 197 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: back to the sailboat. Those two things don't make sense. 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: They aren't the same statement. So he pointed that out 199 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: the differences between what Brian texted him and what police said. 200 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: Brian report, Can I ask you to go back up 201 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: to his statement? Yes, the text message. Yeah, How did 202 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: he describe her swim? How did he say it? 203 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: He said, the wind blew me away from her, and 204 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: she swam towards the sailboat, and we lost sight of 205 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: each other pretty quickly, as it was just about sundown. 206 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Go back for me. Second, how does he say in 207 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: the text messes she ended up in the water. 208 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: She fell off the dinghy in some chopping seas. Okay, 209 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: she fell off in choppy seas. 210 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Swam to the other boat. 211 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: It makes no sense. 212 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: She fell and instead of getting into the boat she 213 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: fell out of She swam a distance how far. 214 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: Who knows, because he was drifting the winds were pulling 215 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: him away from her. Here's the other thing I wanted 216 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: to point out, because the way it was described to 217 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: at least the way it had been reported, was that 218 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: it was in the middle of the night. 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: It was pitch black. 220 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: He says it was about sundown, so he could see her. 221 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Why would he not? 222 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: And well, this is what the friend gets into, he said. 223 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: The biggest question for him Why didn't he try to 224 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: go and get her. If he could paddle the boat 225 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: with an oar, why would he not paddle towards her? 226 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: Why would he paddle towards shore? 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: Okay, Now I'm not damn. That's a good point too. 228 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: Even if you don't jump into the water after her, 229 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: you have the ability to he had a paddle to 230 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: actually direct the boat that you're in. Okay, Look, I 231 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: don't I'm not an avid see guy. 232 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: Ye Okay. 233 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: And then the other the other question he had was 234 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: where were their phones? He said, every time he has 235 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: spent any moment with them on the water, on the land, 236 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 3: wherever they are, they always have their phones with them, 237 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: both of them, Because he said, they're always posting videos online. 238 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: Their phones are never ever away from them. How is 239 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: it that these two people were on a boat and 240 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: neither of them had a phone, because obviously he could 241 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: have called nine one one, He could have called for 242 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: help and they could have immediately rescued her. 243 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: People don't have phones. I wonder if they know where 244 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: her phone is, if it's been recovered, she would have 245 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: taken a phone. 246 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: They haven't found her, and I don't know if she 247 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: had her phone with. 248 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, we don't know, but he didn't have his his. 249 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: And he's saying that is incredibly suspicious. Why would he 250 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: not have his phone? It took him seven hours, according 251 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: to Brian, to paddle back to this island that where 252 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: he was able to eventually get help, and the reason hours. 253 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: But the reason he had to paddle and that didn't 254 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: make sense either. That the friend, this was a big 255 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: part of Brian's story robes. He told the authorities, I 256 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: had to paddle back because I didn't have the key 257 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: to the boat. 258 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: So the friend says, that is a his daughter first 259 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: of all, or his stepdaughter. Her daughter also said that 260 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: was strange that she never had the key, and the 261 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: friend reiterates this and says, okay, the key is usually 262 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: in the boat with a lanyard on it, like that 263 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: is where the key stays. No one has the key, 264 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: no one wears the key. That's not what you do 265 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: as a boater or a boating enthusiast. You have the 266 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: key in the nition with a lanyard. His thought was, 267 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: he was the only thing I could see happening is 268 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: that when Lynette was either being pushed off or if 269 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: there was some sort of an altercation or a fight 270 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: that in a desperate attempt to try and stay on 271 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: the boat, or at least to stop him from leaving her, 272 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: she grabbed the keys as she was going overboard. And 273 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: when he said that that made so much sense. We 274 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: don't know but it. But to say that she had 275 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: the keys on her is a weird thing. 276 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: The daughter had said, Brian is the one that always drives, 277 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: he would always have the key. That made sense, first 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: of all. But robes, you do not have to be 279 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: a big time avid boater. If you've gone and rented 280 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: a pontoon boat on Lake Oconee in Georgia, you get that. 281 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: You don't even touch the key. When they take it 282 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: is in the ignition and it is turned and stays 283 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: in that position. 284 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: Correct. 285 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Nobody takes a key and puts it in your pocket. 286 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Now what would happen? You would drop it in the water. Yes, 287 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: it just doesn't have You're right. And those things also 288 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: have little attachments that even if you do drop it, 289 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: it's still attached to something. 290 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: Correct. 291 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: Rose, The key part got me. I was like, wow, 292 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: I did not think about that. Nobody is sitting in 293 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: a dinghy with the key to the dinghy in your 294 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: pocket where you could drop it. Nope, nobody does that. 295 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: So he pointed that out, and I just thought everything 296 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: that Brian Hooker's own friend, Daniel Danforth had to say 297 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: just suddenly made sense because his story hasn't up until now. 298 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: But do we want to know what's going on with 299 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: Brian Hooker right now? He is behind bars and his 300 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: attorney got to meet with him in person for the 301 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: first time on Thursday. We will tell you what his 302 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: attorney is telling us about Brian Hooker right now. And 303 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. 304 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: We are talking about that mystery in the Caribbean near 305 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: the Bahamas, where we have a missing fifty five year 306 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: old Michigan woman, Lynette Hooker. Right now, her body has 307 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: yet to be found. Authorities have been searching it now 308 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: for searching for her body for nearly at least searching 309 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: for her for nearly a week now, and this is 310 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: certainly a recovery effort at this point. Her husband was arrested. 311 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: He is behind bars. He's been there since Wednesday and 312 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: he has not been formally charged. But his attorney was 313 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: finally able to meet him. They had an interesting story. 314 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: His attorneys shared about Brian's arrest. 315 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Didn't make sense either. I mean, was it? And when 316 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, why even tell that? What was the point? 317 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: And you said, whoa is Brian? 318 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: Yes, poor Brian, and so yes. His attorney is telling 319 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: the story saying his client almost drowned falling in the 320 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: water as police were taking him into custody. 321 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: That's what he said. He used those words. In fact, 322 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: I have his exact quote. 323 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: He said, Brian had a really traumatic experience being transported 324 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: here to Grand Bahama. He was taken to his vessel 325 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: for a search, and when he went there, he was 326 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: handcuffed and he was told he could have a change 327 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: of clothes, and he was requested to disembark while handcuffed. 328 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: When he fell overboard, he had to be rescued by officers. 329 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: So he's saying he actually needs to get medical attention 330 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: because he was injured. And he's claiming that he's asking 331 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: for his client to be looked at because it was 332 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: so traumatic. He went on to say, Brian appears completely 333 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: heartbroken and deeply distressed. His primary concern and source of 334 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: intense frustration is his inability to continue to search for 335 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: his wife of twenty five years. The trauma of her disappearance, 336 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: coupled with his current detention as a suspect, has left 337 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: him in an extremely fragile state. 338 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: So we should have something, know something one way or 339 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: another today because they are running up against that forty 340 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: eight hour deadline to see what happens. Look, just because 341 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: he is in custody, it does not mean he is 342 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: going to face a charge. It doesn't. And what evidence 343 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: do they have Romes, besides the circumstantial stuff, What evidence 344 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: do they have besides what might be on that boat, 345 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: What else do they have? 346 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: It's unclear right now, But what I do think is interesting. 347 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: His attorney addressed a lot of news outlets are reporting, 348 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: and this is verifiable that there was a domestic dispute 349 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: between Brian Hooker and his wife in twenty fifteen, and 350 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: actually Lynette was the one who is arrested and spent 351 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: a night in jail. But they said both of the 352 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: spouses were deeply intoxicated, accusing each other of assault, and 353 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: there was some visible injuries on Brian Hooker, and so 354 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: that's why Lynette was actually taken into custody. But his lawyer, 355 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: it was interesting, said this, he is the only witness 356 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: to what transpired, and he has said he has done 357 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: nothing wrong. So to refer to allegations of abuse or 358 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: a tumultuous relationship does not explain what happened on the 359 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: day and indicate whether or not he was somehow culpable 360 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: for anything that may have happened to her. 361 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: I think that is one hundred percent true. That is okay, 362 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't look good and it will be brought 363 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: up if there were to be a trial. So this 364 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: is why stuff like this does become really well with 365 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: the nature of their relationship. This leads to all kinds 366 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: of motives and all kinds of things. But just because 367 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: they could have had the worst, most abusive relationship ever, 368 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he pushed off a boat, and it 369 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: doesn't prove he pushed off a boat the man. It 370 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: sure goes a long way in explaining what is right 371 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: now an unexplainable accident for a woman who is very 372 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: knowledgeable in how to behave on the water. 373 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: You just said it, and the question will be can 374 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: authorities somehow have enough evidence to actually charge him with 375 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: a crime without Lynnette's body, without another witness. 376 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: That's tough. 377 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: That's a tall, tall, tall mountain to climb, but we 378 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: will let you know. We'll keep our eye on the 379 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: story and let you know what the Bahaman officials say 380 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: later today when it comes to Brian Hooker's detention there 381 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: in Grand Bahama. But in the meantime, thank you as 382 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: always for listening to us. 383 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: Everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to 384 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: you soon.