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Speaker 1: These are all things that could eventually pile up and

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Speaker 2: What are the signs that we have too many toxins

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Speaker 1: And I always say cancer's biggest enemy is being diagnosed

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Speaker 2: Why are you seeing healthy having heart attacks?

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Speaker 1: Fifty percent of people find out they have heart disease

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Speaker 2: If someone has toxins in their body, is it reversible

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Speaker 2: The problem is the number one health and wellness podcast,

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Speaker 2: back to you on Purpose. I am so grateful that

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is one of your favorites. I know him

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Speaker 2: back to On Purpose. Doctor Darshan Shah a board certified surgeon,

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Speaker 2: Please welcome back to On Purpose, Doctor Darshan Shah. So great, Darshan,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I mean, this is my purpose in life

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Speaker 2: I want to dive straight in. I feel like today

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Speaker 1: I can find better pricing at the roadside stand or

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00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: at an organic farm than I can at my own supermarket.

434
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: And so I think if you try to get organic

435
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: if you can, and if you can't, look at that

436
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: list on the website ewg dot org. Try to avoid

437
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: those and at least look up a YouTube video on

438
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: how to wash your fruits and vegetables effectively.

439
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard because you're like, hey, I'm being healthy,

440
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm eating blueberries, I'm eating apples, and then you're stuck

441
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: with this side of it where it's like always making

442
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 2: a healthy choice. Yeah, like you know, eating past foods,

443
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: you eating fruits, you are, Yeah, but then there's something

444
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: in it, so you got to be even more careful.

445
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the way to think about it

446
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: is absolutely you want to eat blueberries over you know,

447
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: so twinkie for example, right, but even those blueberries, you

448
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: want to be careful about what you're putting into your system.

449
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that we've gotten so used

450
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: to this lifestyle of convenience where you just go to

451
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: the supermarket, You're in and out in thirty minutes. You

452
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: don't have to think about what you're getting. You just

453
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: pick it up, throwing your cart, and you zoom out

454
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: of there, right, And I think we need to go

455
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: back to a time period where humans lived, where we

456
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: were much more mindful about what we were putting in

457
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: our body. We respected food, We thought about our food

458
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: before we ate it, and we enjoyed the meal, and

459
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: so you cooked it home more. I think we need

460
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: to go back to a lifestyle where we have more

461
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: of a connection with our food, and then all of

462
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: this stuff becomes more automatic. One of the biggest things

463
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm constantly trying to work on is just eating slower. Yeah, right,

464
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: I find like it's so easy. I was thinking about

465
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: this where it started so when I was a kid,

466
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: I ate fast in school because my mom would make

467
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: me an Indian packed lunch. Sometimes we talked about the

468
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: embarrassed of it, so I'd eat it really fast. And

469
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: then when I worked in the corporate world, if you

470
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: took a lunch break, you were just not hustling, like

471
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: you weren't effective enough, So then I'd eat really really fast.

472
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: When I was a monk, we ate very very slow,

473
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: but we only ate like one meal a day, so

474
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: it was very limited practice. And then when I left again,

475
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: I went back to the corporate world and working world,

476
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: and you're eating fast again, and I find what I'm

477
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: eating slow, my digestion is better, my stress is better,

478
00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: everything's better.

479
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm eating fast. It's almost like you're bloated, you go

480
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: indigestion like everything, just from such a simple abbit.

481
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up a really good point there, Jay,

482
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: because this is the balance between your parasympathetic and sympathetic

483
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: nervous system. When you eat, you're supposed to be in

484
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: a state of rest and relaxation. That's the parasympathetic state.

485
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: But like you said, most of us eat in the

486
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: sympathetic state where we're stressed out. Just trying to get

487
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: through the meals. Sometimes we're on our computer or our

488
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: phone while we're eating, and we never allow our bodies

489
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: to go into this parasympathetic state. And we spend ninety

490
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Speaker 1: percent of our life in sympathetic and ten percent in parasympathetic.

491
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Speaker 1: And it's the exact opposite of how our caveman ancestors

492
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: used to live. They used to rest and relax all

493
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: day long. They would walk around. The only stressful times

494
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: they had is if they were being attacked by an

495
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: animal or another you know, So we need to get

496
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: back to taking time to eating our food, just not

497
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: only for a digestion, but also for a parasympathetic state

498
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: to have just an opportunity to spend some time with us.

499
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Speaker 2: It's so good to its so gonna understand that I remember. Yeah,

500
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: that flip of how quickly society has changed from the

501
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: way we used to live to the way we live now,

502
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: and how we all don't have enough time to do

503
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: the simple things that our bodies need right is huge

504
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: when you think about it like that, like the comparison. Yeah,

505
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: the flip, it's pretty insane.

506
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I talked to a lot of my

507
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: patients and I'm like, you have to give yourself some

508
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: time to self care and think I don't have any

509
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: time to self care. You want me to build in

510
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: a six hour self care routine like no, no, No.

511
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Self care means giving yourself twenty minutes to eat instead

512
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: of five minutes seat. That is practicing self care. That

513
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: allows you to downshift from this high sympathetic state into parasympathetic.

514
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: And when you're in that state, you do have time

515
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: that your body is able to recover and all your

516
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: body needs. Your body doesn't need a lot of time

517
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: to recover, but it does need some time to recover,

518
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: and meals is a perfect time for that.

519
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: And the fourth one is skin.

520
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: Skin. Yeah, okay, so women on average use between ten

521
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: to twelve products on their skin every day and men

522
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: use between six to eight products on their skin every day,

523
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: and most of us don't even think about it. Right,

524
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: we go to CBS, So we go to the supermarket

525
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: and we buy our skincare products right off the shelf.

526
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: We need a lotion, we need to perfume, a hair wash,

527
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: we just buy it, right. The reality is a lot

528
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: of that stuff, over ninety percent of the stuff that

529
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: we buy in our supermarkets is filled with toxins. If

530
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: you ever look at the label on it, you're like,

531
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: you can't even pronounce ninety percent of the words on there, right,

532
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: And just because you can't pronounce them doesn't mean it's

533
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: a toxin. But the minute you start looking them up,

534
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, my gosh, there's some bad stuff in here.

535
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, there are apps and there are websites now

536
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: that can help us to understand what's inside of these products,

537
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: because it's hard for the average Joe to really understand

538
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: all these chemicals and they're bad or good for you.

539
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: And so you can scan these products. And we mentioned

540
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: this on the last podcast. There's an app call think Dirty.

541
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: It's an app called skin Deep. There's a few of

542
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: them out there that people can use. And the beauty

543
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: of this is you only need to do it one time, right, Like,

544
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: how many times have you changed toothpaste in your life? Really?

545
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Really yea skin at once you're like, oh wait a minute,

546
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: that's at the red level. Probably shouldn't be buying that.

547
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Let me see what the alternatives are. Okay, here's something

548
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: that's green and it's affordable to me, and I can

549
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: switch to that and then once you switch to it,

550
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: that's it. You made that one percent change that day,

551
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: and this is going to stack up to thirty seven

552
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: hundred percent change for the rest of the year for you,

553
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: year after year after year. Right, same thing with your

554
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: skin products that you use, your lotion, your hair wash.

555
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: You also want to try to minimize the amount of

556
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: perfumes that you use, your deodorants, all of it. You

557
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: want to kind of look at There are perfumes out

558
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: there that are considered non toxic, like essential oils and

559
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: things like that. But still our skin is an incredible

560
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: barrier to the outside environment.

561
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: Right.

562
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: You want to protect it. You want to be able

563
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: to give it only has a certain amount of also

564
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: barrier capacity, right, And the more you keep putting on it,

565
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: the harder it is for your skin to delineate what's

566
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: a toxin and what's not okay. And so just using

567
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: detoxified products it will allow your skin to function better

568
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: in the long run. One other quick hint I have

569
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: on this, I'll i'll give to you just also for

570
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: better hair care for people. I think we're convinced by

571
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: advertisements on TV that we need to wash our hair

572
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: every day, right, And the reality is The more you

573
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: wash your hair, the more you're drying your skin, the

574
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: more you're killing the microbiome of your hair, and your

575
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: hair becomes more and more unhealthy. That's why every time

576
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: you shampoo, you need a conditioner, because your shampoo is

577
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: drying your scalp. In reality, especially for men, if you

578
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: wash your hair once a week or once was with shampoo,

579
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: with shampoo right once a week or once every other week,

580
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: it's much better for your scalp, much better for your hair,

581
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: less exposure to toxins, your microbiome can flourish. When I

582
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: learn this, it completely changed the quality of my scalp

583
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: from you know, having dandro and having lots of dry

584
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: scalp issues itchiness all day long, to having a great

585
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: head of hair and no scalp issues.

586
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: So washing your hair with water is fine, it's fine,

587
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: but it's wark in your head with shampoo and conditioner

588
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: every day or every other day, and you're saying once

589
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: a week.

590
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Once a week, yeah wow, yeah that air cleaner. Your

591
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: hair will stay cleaner and your hair will retain the

592
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: natural oils that will keep it healthy.

593
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: I've almost been trained to believe that when I use

594
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: shampoo or conditioner Obviously it smells better, you feel better,

595
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: but you can actually be clean without that, like your

596
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: hair will be clean.

597
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Without absolutely absolutely, If we've evolved for millennia to keep

598
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: our scalp healthy and now we've never needed chemicals to

599
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: keep our scalp healthy, how come all of a sudden

600
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: the last fifty years, we've been convinced that we need

601
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: all these chemicals and our scalps to keep it healthy.

602
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: It's not true.

603
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: True, it's crazy when you say it like that, right

604
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: when you think about it, like you like, what are

605
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: we doing?

606
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: Get pictures of people from back in the thirties and

607
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: forties and fifties when they didn't have all these products,

608
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: Their hair looks incredible, Like you rarely see male pattern

609
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: balding or women with thinning hair is because they didn't

610
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: wash their hair like this every every day, you know,

611
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: with every shower.

612
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, I'm literally mind blown right now, there's such again,

613
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: simple changes, simple steps, and we're protecting ourselves with ease, right,

614
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: it's super absolutely.

615
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, we've been convinced through marketing that we need

616
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: to do more and more and more and more, and

617
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: the reality is you need less. You just haven't know

618
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: where to cut back right and know it's let your

619
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: body keep you healthy. Your biology is an incredible system,

620
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Like I keep saying, this evolves over millennia to keep

621
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: you healthy. Give it a chance to do it and.

622
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: You have a three ingredient skincare routine.

623
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: We can create ourselves, right, I've always been talking about

624
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: that with multiple dermatologists and things like that. I think

625
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: the simpler the better. But yes, we can do stuff

626
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: like that. What is it, I haven't developed it. Yes, Okay, yeah, okay,

627
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it.

628
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: One of those days.

629
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Yah.

630
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: Yes. Is our environment aging us faster than on genetics?

631
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: Yes, it's definitely more about our environment than it is

632
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: our genetics. It's so funny, you know this whole We

633
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: have this human genome project that went on for about

634
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: five plus years and an incredible project where some incredible

635
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: scientists decoded our entire genome, and we thought this was

636
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: going to be the answer to disease, This was going

637
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: to be the answer to reversing crime disease, keeping us

638
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: live longer. And what we're learning since then more and

639
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: more is it's not in the DNA. It's more about

640
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: how our environment turns on and turns off. Segments of

641
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: our DNA to either keep us healthy or develop in

642
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: the opposite direction. And so we used to say, even

643
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: just five years ago, that your DNA is really only

644
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the equation. Now we're saying your DNA

645
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: code is actually probably ten percent or less of the equation.

646
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Is which DNA segments are turned on and off? That's

647
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: totally your environment.

648
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: What are the signs that we have too many toxins

649
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Speaker 2: in our body? How do we know?

650
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Speaker 1: It's usually you're just not feeling good, okay. And one

651
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Speaker 1: thing I do want to emphasize is that our body

652
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Speaker 1: is incredibly resilient. By the time you feel something is

653
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: usually later on in the process of accumulation. Okay, So

654
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Speaker 1: you don't want to wait till you start feeling something.

655
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Speaker 1: You want to start making these mini changes now so

656
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Speaker 1: you stay healthier for the long term. Some of the

657
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Speaker 1: symptoms of toxin accumulation include brain fog, include allergy symptoms,

658
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: your skin has exima for example, you can have fatigue,

659
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: not sleeping well. These are all symptoms that if you

660
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: go to a doctor, they're like, I don't really know

661
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. Really, toxic accumulation needs to be the

662
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Speaker 1: fourth leg of that stool that we always talk about

663
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Speaker 1: of health, right you, We have sleep, we have exercise,

664
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Speaker 1: we have our nutrition. Toxins is that fourth leg that

665
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Speaker 1: we need to start mitigating on so that we stay

666
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Speaker 1: healthy for the long term.

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Speaker 2: If someone has toxins in their body, now, is it

668
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Speaker 2: reversible or are they stuck? No?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely reversible. Your body is a tremendous ability to detoxify

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Speaker 1: Your liver. Is this incredible organ?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

672
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Speaker 1: The liver is the only organ in our body that

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Speaker 1: we do not have a medical device to replicate what

674
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Speaker 1: it does?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

676
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Speaker 1: I do you all know that we can replace your

677
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: kidneys with dialysis? You know you're hard to We even

678
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: have heart lung machines, for example. But your liver has

679
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: chemical processes that cannot be replaced. And that's because it's

680
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Speaker 1: incredibly complex. It can detoxify you from almost anything. The

681
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: problem is when the level of accumulation occurs faster than

682
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Speaker 1: the rate of detoxification, and then the toxins end up

683
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Speaker 1: in your plasma, your bloodstream and deposit into your organs.

684
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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that the game is lost or it's too late.

685
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: You just have to start somewhere at some time. To

686
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Speaker 1: start decreasing your exposure so your body can catch up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we've talked about all the strategies you can

688
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Speaker 2: do that, right, I think there's.

689
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Speaker 1: One more strategy I think people need to think about.

690
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Speaker 1: We think that we need to live in this super

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Speaker 1: clean environment, and we buy eight different cleaners for all

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Speaker 1: the things that we clean in our house. Right. You

693
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: have a spray bottle for your windows, you have a

694
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Speaker 1: spray bottle for your cabinets, you have one for the toilets,

695
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Speaker 1: and then you have different products to mop your floor

696
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Speaker 1: with and air fresheners for example. You don't need any

697
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: of that stuff, Okay, if you need very few products

698
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: as diluted at different levels to clean things, and so

699
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: soap is extremely effective. There's a great company I have

700
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: no financial affiliation with them, called Branch Basics that I've

701
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: gotten to the founder. She makes one product is non toxic.

702
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Speaker 1: You buy a big bottle, it'll lasts you for months,

703
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: and you just dilute it to different levels for your windows,

704
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: for your toilets, for your floor, and that's all you need.

705
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: It's actually simpler and cheaper to do it that way.

706
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Speaker 1: You know, she's changed how we clean our house completely

707
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Speaker 1: because now we spend less money last time cleaning our

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Speaker 1: house and it's not using toxic chemicals.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking there are so many

710
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: places in our home where we're exposed to chemicals. And

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Speaker 2: as you said, if we just spend this weekend just

712
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Speaker 2: going I'm just going to look through my apartment, I'm

713
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Speaker 2: going to look through my home, and I'm just going

714
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Speaker 2: to get rid of all of this stuff. I'm going

715
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Speaker 2: to find really easy replacements. Like you said, you only

716
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Speaker 2: have to do it once. It's not something you have

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Speaker 2: to keep doing. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I have a list on my website, actually maybe we

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Speaker 1: can linked to it in the show notes. Fifty actions

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Speaker 1: you can take and if you just check off one

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Speaker 1: a week in a year, you're done. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: That's really strong. A right, that's really strong. Those when

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Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about toxins, we've talked a lot

725
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Speaker 2: about microplastics. But I think this is really important right now.

726
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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the top three

727
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Speaker 2: causes of death in the United States now because I

728
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: don't think we're as aware as we should be. But

729
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: I think we're experiencing, whether that be with friends or family,

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Speaker 2: So could you take us through the twelve three? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think it's an important topic for us to

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Speaker 1: all talk about because I want to put some positivity

733
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Speaker 1: in this conversation. We are living in an incredible time

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Speaker 1: in history right now. The founder of Nvidia, the founders

735
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Speaker 1: of Google, they are all telling us, Look, what we're

736
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Speaker 1: seeing is we're going to be able to apply the

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Speaker 1: power of artificial intelligence and quantum computing to the problem

738
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Speaker 1: of disease. And there is not a zero chance that

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Speaker 1: during our lifetimes we'll be able to cure most disease

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Speaker 1: using this incredible power that's coming. Right. We're not there yet,

741
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Speaker 1: but there's a lot coming. So it's a really amazing

742
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Speaker 1: idea to think about this, right, And it might sound

743
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: like science fiction to some people, but my I found

744
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: sounded like science fiction ten years ago, right, So what

745
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Speaker 1: I want people to know is that just stay healthy

746
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Speaker 1: and alive long enough to experience this technological revolution. Now

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Speaker 1: that being said, if you go to the CDC's website,

748
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Speaker 1: they publish every single year the top ten causes of death.

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Speaker 1: Number one is heart disease. In the top five are

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Speaker 1: cancer and also Alzheimer's disease and metabolic disease is also

751
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Speaker 1: in the top ten, but metabolic disease is one of

752
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Speaker 1: the root causes of cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and heart disease.

753
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Speaker 1: So we can talk about all of those four because

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Speaker 1: I think they're important to touch on. And the reason

755
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: is people might think that it's outsourced to their doctor

756
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: to prevent them from getting these diseases, from getting these

757
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: chronic diseases, but really, the Western medical system is not

758
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Speaker 1: well equipped to prevent and to turn around these chronic diseases.

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Speaker 1: But we, through our habits and through our routines, we

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Speaker 1: absolutely can make these diseases a possible non entity during

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Speaker 1: our lifetimes.

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Speaker 2: I read an incredible statistic. You said more than half

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Speaker 2: of us adults don't know heart disease is the leading

764
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Speaker 2: cause of death. Wow, despite its one hundred year rain.

765
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Speaker 2: So that's been true for one hundred years now, but

766
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Speaker 2: we're not aware of it. And even when you say

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Speaker 2: the word heart disease, I'm like, how does someone even

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Speaker 2: get that.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple more statistics. Fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: people find out they have heart disease at their first

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Speaker 1: heart attack. Somewhere between thirty to fifty percent of that

772
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Speaker 1: first heart attack is fatal, right, And that's when people

773
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Speaker 1: are finding out. And I just read this morning, it's

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Speaker 1: happening at a younger and younger age. So we thought

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Speaker 1: heart attacks is a disease of old men and women, right,

776
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Speaker 1: or just old men, most people thought. The reality situation

777
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Speaker 1: is there are people in their forties getting heart attacks,

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Speaker 1: and women are particularly susceptible. And the reason is women

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: don't have the same symptoms men have. Women's symptoms are

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Speaker 1: more symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, inability to get

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Speaker 1: their day done. Men have severe chest pain at times

782
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Speaker 1: with heart attacks, right, And so women get diagnosed later

783
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Speaker 1: with heart disease and therefore they can't get treated for it.

784
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Speaker 1: So there's lots of different types of heart disease. The

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Speaker 1: one that we're mostly focused on is development of what's

786
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Speaker 1: called plaque in the blood vessels of your heart. Plaque

787
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Speaker 1: is the thickening of the blood vessel wall due to

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Speaker 1: many different factors that cause it to close off. Believe

789
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Speaker 1: it or not, even though there's a lot of blood

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: going through your heart, the blood vessels that supply your

791
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Speaker 1: actual heart muscle to keep it alive are really kind

792
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Speaker 1: of tiny. You used to operate on these when I

793
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Speaker 1: was a surgeon, and you have to look under a

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Speaker 1: microscope a lot of times to see these blood vessels

795
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Speaker 1: to operate on them. And so they get blocked pretty easily.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about. And how do they

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Speaker 1: there's a combination of factors. Say there's four factors that

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Speaker 1: lead to heart disease. Most people think it's LDL cholesterol.

799
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Speaker 1: That's not true. The four factors that lead to heart

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Speaker 1: disease or number one metabolic disease, and that's just a

801
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: fancy way of saying that our bodies unable to handle them.

802
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: On of sugar that we have, so a glucose level

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Speaker 1: high all the time, and our insulin levels get high

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Speaker 1: all the time. Second factor is inflammation, and we can

805
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: dive into that a little bit more. Third factor is

806
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Speaker 1: damaged to the wall of the blood vessel that's called

807
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Speaker 1: the endothelium that happens when you have high blood pressure

808
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Speaker 1: that's untreated for a long time, which over fifty percent

809
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Speaker 1: of Americans have, and or high stress levels or even overtraining.

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Speaker 1: And lastly is an accumulation of cholesterol in your blood

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Speaker 1: vessel wall, specifically a kind of cholesterol that's grouped under

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Speaker 1: what's called APO B, and we can talk about that

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Speaker 1: and why that's important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about all four of those, because I

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Speaker 2: think again, when you hear about that, we're starting to

816
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: have healthier conversations around glue, care, spikes, and sugar. But

817
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Speaker 2: I still don't think we understand fully or maybe there's

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Speaker 2: some denial that those things are connected to heart disease

819
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Speaker 2: in our understanding. At least I think we're still I mean,

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Speaker 2: I remember last week, I was just doing a analysis

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Speaker 2: of what products people eat on a day to day basis,

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Speaker 2: and I was in my hotel and I was just

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Speaker 2: looking at the snack basket in the hotel. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: eat any of it because most of it wasn't plant

825
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Speaker 2: based now, but I was looking on the back of

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Speaker 2: it and there was a bag of a very famous

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Speaker 2: chocolate which the packet is only this big, like it's tiny, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it has sixty percent of your daily sugars. That's

829
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Speaker 2: if you should even be eating that much sugar anyway,

830
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Speaker 2: But it's sixty percent of your daily sugars in a

831
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Speaker 2: bag that I would as a kid finish in like

832
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Speaker 2: three seconds, right, And so it's worrying to think about

833
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: the amount of sugar intake we're having without even knowing.

834
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Speaker 2: I don't think we're aware of how much sugar is

835
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Speaker 2: in a packet of chips, a chocolate bar, the drinks

836
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Speaker 2: that we're drinking every day, right, Like, there's no understanding

837
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Speaker 2: of it. So let's go through each of those as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with number one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with metabolic disease. Right, So you've had

840
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Casey Means on here and a few experts on metabolic disease.

841
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Speaker 1: And the reality of the situation is not just a

842
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: packages of candy, right. A lot of people will say,

843
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't eat candy, I don't eat desserts.

844
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Speaker 2: I'm fine.

845
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: The reality is sugar and frictose is hidden in a

846
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: lot of different foods, specifically ultra processed foods and refined grains, Okay,

847
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Speaker 1: and so those can be particularly dangerous. So even a sandwich,

848
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Speaker 1: for example, you're like, sandwich, I'm not putting sugar in

849
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Speaker 1: my sandwich. Well, the refined white bread combined with the

850
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: condiments like the ketchup and the mustard, there's a lot

851
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: of sugar in there. There's even sugar is sometimes added

852
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: to the meats that you're eating, and so if you

853
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: were like a continuous glucose monitor, a sandwich for a

854
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: lot of people can cause a huge spike. There are

855
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: easy ways to mitigate this problem, and one of them is,

856
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: of course avoiding refined grains, avoiding ultra processed food, but

857
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: also starting every meal with some fiber. If you put

858
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: fiber into your system first, your body's ability to absorb

859
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: the sugar that follows it is much reduced. That's one

860
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: thing you can do. And the second thing you can

861
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: do is move around after every single meal. All right,

862
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: So instead of you go to a restaurant they give

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00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: you a basket of bread or tratilla chips, say I'm

864
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: not going to have that, please. Instead, I'll start with

865
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: the side salad. And as soon as you're done, instead

866
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: of just going straight to your car or your couch,

867
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: go for a little five, ten fifteen minute walk. Those

868
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: two simple actions can completely change your body's relationship to sugar.

869
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: In addition to avoiding ultra processed food, sugary drinks, et cetera. Yeah,

870
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: I love that one. That's been the big one for me.

871
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Just I've been trying to structure my food eating in

872
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: that way, and the walking part is life changing. I've

873
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: found that if I sit on the couch to what's

874
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: a show, straight off to dinner, I'm now getting some

875
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: massive reflux, I'm digesting food badly. There's there's some sort

876
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: of discomfort that I'm feeling, whereas just walking around for

877
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: ten minutes, all of a sudden, I'm comfortable. And that's

878
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: it's such a small, simple step that people can say

879
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: it's a small simple step, and you know, it doesn't

880
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: take a lot. Actually it really doesn't, just takes five

881
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: ten minutes if you can do it.

882
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: What was the second cause?

883
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about high blood pressure, because I think that

884
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: this is affecting people at a much younger, younger age.

885
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people in my clinic in their twenties with

886
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: high blood pressure. Let's define that high blood pressure is

887
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: anything over one thirty over eighty in my definition, and

888
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: there's huge research studies showing that for every ten points

889
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: that you have of your blood pressure being over one

890
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: thirty over eighty, you have a fifteen percent chance of

891
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: having cardiovascar disease, an increase of fifteen percent of having

892
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: cardiovascer disease and complications from it. So it's really important

893
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: to manage your blood pressure. Right. The problem is most

894
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: of us don't even know we have high blood pressure

895
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: until it's way too late. And the reason for that

896
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: is where do you get your blood pressure? Meassure, right,

897
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: your doctor's office? Yeah, right, if you even go to

898
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: a doctor. Fifty percent of people don't even go to

899
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: see a doctor, right, So that's true. Yeah, fifty percent

900
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: of people don't see a primary care doctor. All of

901
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: their medicine is administered through urgent cares and emergency rooms.

902
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy, It's crazy right now, It is really crazy.

903
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: If you talk to urgent care and er doctors, they

904
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: think it's one hundred percent because they're seeing people all time.

905
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: It's the busiest they've ever been since, you know, ers

906
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: and emergency rooms were even invented. So anyhow, I think

907
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: that even if you get your blood pressure measured at

908
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: a doctor's office, usually it's a garbage measurement. And the

909
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: reason for that is you're doing one blood pressure measurement.

910
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: Usually it's the last person that is just hired the

911
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: doctor's office doing your blood pressure. And also, you know

912
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: you're stressed out, you might have white coat syndrome. Usually

913
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: that blood pressure is looked at. It's like, we'll take

914
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: it again next year, next time you're here, and then

915
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: it gets kind of ignored. The best way to do

916
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: this I would do this if you're in your thirties

917
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: is buy a blood pressure cup for your home. Look

918
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: up a good YouTube video and how to measure your

919
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: blood pressure. You want to do a first thing in

920
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the morning, sitting in a specific way. You want to

921
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: do it three times, and you average those three readings.

922
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: You want to optimize for one twenty over seventy. You

923
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: want to try to be as close to that as possible.

924
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: If it's anything over one thirty over eighty, that should

925
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: bring an alarm bell in your mind. You want to

926
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: try it again next week, do the same procedure. Try

927
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: it again the following to the same procedure. If this

928
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: key's happening for three to four weeks in a row

929
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: where it's over one thirty over eighty, you need to

930
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: go see a doctor and bring them your blood pressure

931
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: measurements and show them what you did. Because we have

932
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to control blood pressure doesn't

933
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: need to be just medication. There's sleep issues like sleep

934
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: apnea that can lead to high blood pressure. There's dietary

935
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: issues like too much salt in your diet, which I'm

936
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: not saying salt is bad for you. Salt is good.

937
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: Some people will eat a lot of ultra processed food

938
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: with a lot of additional salt and sugar that can

939
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: lead to high blood pressure. Everything is very interrelated, as

940
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: you can see, right. So the key is knowing. Once

941
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can mitigate for the bad effects of

942
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: high blood pressure. The problem is now we diagnose blood

943
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: pressure issues five to ten years too late. Then it

944
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: takes us five to ten years of messing around trying

945
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: to tree it before we finally get it right. So

946
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: people are living with high blood pressure for ten twenty

947
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: thirty years. By then a lot of damage has already

948
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: been done.

949
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so people just need to go get checked exactly,

950
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: just you need to know now and most regularly not

951
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: go get check.

952
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: Check it yourself, get a blood pressure cough, check it yourself,

953
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: because going to get checked a lot of times you

954
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: get tricked into a false sense of comfort thinking it's

955
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: normal and my doctor said everything's fine, right, I think

956
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: it's I'm a big believer in empowering yourself with a

957
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: few numbers about your health. And one of them is

958
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: definitely blood pressure. So knowing your own blood pressure and

959
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: checking yourself is a good idea in my opinion.

960
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: It's so amazing how you could just miss it just

961
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: by a little bit. But like you're saying, five to

962
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: ten years to ten years, not a little bit, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

963
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: people ignored a long time. That's late.

964
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

965
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: If someone checks themselves right now and they have high

966
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: blood pressure, what should they do?

967
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: First thing? Don't freak out right, I mean, it's just

968
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: one measurement or three average into one. Check it again,

969
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: the follow ink and check it again the follow inks.

970
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: A lot of things you can do to lower your

971
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: blood pressure naturally. We talked about some of the dietary interventions.

972
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: There's also you know, startle us into the daily jay.

973
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: It's just some breath works. Some meditation can be massively

974
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: beneficial in reducing blood pressure naturally. Going for a walk

975
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: after meals, sleeping better, all of these things, simple things, right.

976
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 2: It always comes down to the basics. Yes, it always

977
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: comes down to the basics. And then being really aware

978
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: of these little nuances. I feel like the more time

979
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: I've spent with you, you realize, Yeah, it's about these

980
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: simple things like your nutrition, your sleep, your exercise. And

981
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: then at the other end, it's about the microplastics, the toxins,

982
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: and these are the more nuanced things that require a

983
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: bit more organization and orchestration. Right. Inflammation is one of

984
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: the root causes of heart disease.

985
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: Yes, and Alzheimer's yeah, and cancer. Okay, So what is inflammation.

986
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: It's an over activity of your immune systemmmune system is

987
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: what keeps us healthy. It fights off we all know, viruses, bacteria,

988
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: but it also fights off cancer cells. It also has

989
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: a major role in healing us from injuries throughout our body.

990
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: When your immune system is too busy, and this can

991
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: happen for many different reasons, but there's one in particular.

992
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the time or the ability to attend

993
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: to all of us different roles. Right, So cancer cells

994
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: get missed and you develop cancer, Amyloid accumulates in your brain,

995
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: you develop Alzheimer's disease. These things happen because our immune

996
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: system just literally doesn't have the capacity to do all

997
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: the different jobs we're asking it to do. So there's

998
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: one place where most inflammation starts, and that's in your gut. Okay,

999
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: most of our immune system. Eighty to ninety percent of

1000
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: our immune cells are located in our gut, and when

1001
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: our gut is unhealthy, toxins are instantly absorbed through our

1002
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: gut into our bloodstream, and that our immune systems is

1003
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: asked to fight these off. And so it's really important

1004
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: to maintain a healthy gut so that our immune system

1005
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: is allowed some time to do its other jobs.

1006
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: If you're someone who gets sick often or has a

1007
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: regular cough or sore throw, is that a sign that

1008
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: your immune systems weak?

1009
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, it could be, for sure.

1010
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: What should you be doing? So thet's like, we just

1011
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: let it go. I know a lot of people who

1012
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: are just every time I see them, like, oh, you know,

1013
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: I just got to cough, Like just got a sore throw.

1014
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm just just got sick again. You know, every month

1015
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: you're hearing about it now and you kind of just

1016
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: live life that way.

1017
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate, and we get used to it, right,

1018
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of ways to keep your

1019
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: immune system healthy. One is we keep going back to

1020
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: the basics, but I will say sleep is such an

1021
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: important factor in immune system health. The less you sleep,

1022
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: the weaker your immune system. Gets and it's all it's

1023
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: so predictable, you know, and so having good deep sleep

1024
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: is very important. We talked about toxins. The less your

1025
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: immune system has to deal with toxins, the better it

1026
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: has the capacit city to help detoxify you from viruses

1027
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: and fungise you don't get sick. And then lastly I

1028
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: would say is keep your gut healthy, you know, make

1029
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: sure you're eating a lot of fiber. Make sure you're

1030
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: avoiding things like advil and nonstroidal anti inflammatory drugs unless

1031
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: you absolutely need them. Don't take antibiotics unless you absolutely

1032
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: need them that can kill your gut bacteria. Keep your

1033
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: gut as healthy as possible. Lots of fiber. It's super

1034
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: important as well for your gut to be healthy.

1035
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: What are the negative impacts of antibiotics and advil?

1036
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: They are like nuclear bombs to your gut bacteria. You

1037
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: take an advil, you take any nonstroidal anti inflammatory drug

1038
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: or an antibiotic, especially, your gut bacteria take a while

1039
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: to regenerate themselves. It's really a tragedy in modern medicine

1040
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: because you know, when I was in medical school, I

1041
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: was taught there's no downsize to antibiotics. Why not just

1042
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: fling antibiotics at people. I think people know better now

1043
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: for sure, but it's still you know, doctors don't have

1044
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: time to sort through all these things. Sometimes just writing

1045
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: someone a prescription for an antibiotic gets them out your door.

1046
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: And people are seeking antibiotics all the time. They want something,

1047
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: they want to pilt, they want to quick fix a

1048
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: pill to take. And I think that we have to

1049
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: be much more mindful because the same antibiotic that's killing

1050
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: your sinus problem is killing your gut bacteria. Right, So

1051
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: unless you absolutely need it, I would be very careful

1052
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: about taking antibiotics and nonstoroidals. I think now you know,

1053
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: we've come to this age where we can buy these

1054
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: things over the counter and massive tubs of like one

1055
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pills of adavil, right, and the mini

1056
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: you have a little ache or sore, Even people going

1057
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: to the gym, they take a little advil before and

1058
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: to get a better workout. It's killer for your gut bacteria.

1059
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: So you want to avoid these if at all possible.

1060
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: What do you do for a headache instead curcumin? Yeah,

1061
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: there's lots of natural remedies for you know, headaches, taking

1062
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: a nap. Circumin is a powerful anti inflammatory, especially if

1063
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you take it with the paverin, which increases this absorption.

1064
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Try at first. You can even try this if you're

1065
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: having back pain, neck pain. Look, I'm not telling people

1066
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: live with pain, absolutely not, But don't also become a

1067
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: chronic user of advil every single day.

1068
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the pain you're actually setting yourself up for

1069
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: is far worse, right, And I think that's what we

1070
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: just don't see. I think we've all been trained to

1071
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: believe that as long as I don't feel anything, I'm good,

1072
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: not realizing that the numbing and the suppressing of that signal,

1073
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: that sign, that alert that's trying to say, hey, take

1074
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: a look at your gut, or take a look at

1075
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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. It's so easy to just kind

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Speaker 2: of just avoid it and hide it. Almost. But first,

1077
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Speaker 2: here's a quick word from the brands that support the show.

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Speaker 2: back in.

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Speaker 1: This happens with all of disease, Jay, is that we

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: cover up the symptoms with pharmaceuticals and we never look

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00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: at what is the root cause of why we have

1083
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: that in the first place. Right, So if you're having pain,

1084
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: is your body is screaming out saying, hey, there's a

1085
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: root cause issue going on here. Help me figure this

1086
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: out so that we don't have long term issues. Instead,

1087
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: a pill will cover up the symptoms and it numbs

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00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: you to that signal and that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: And what was the next one? Off to inflammation.

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Speaker 1: Then we talked about cholesterol leading to heart disease. So

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Speaker 1: one point I want to make here is I think

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00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: a lot of us are stuck in this mentality of

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Speaker 1: LDL cholesterol it leads to heart disease.

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Speaker 2: Explain that because I don't think most people even know

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: what LDL cholesterol is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you get a cholesterol panel and your

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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: doctor tells you, oh, your total cholesterol is high, your

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00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: LDL is high, I think you might need a stat

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Speaker 1: and to mitigate the effects of this so that you

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Speaker 1: don't have heart vessel blockages in the future. Well, we

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: already know that it's not just cholesterol that leads to

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Speaker 1: heart disease. It's all the combination of things that we

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00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: talked about. If your doctor talks you about LDL or

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00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: you're following your LDL, really that's nineteen eighties nineteen nineties medicine.

1105
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Now we have a new biomarker that everyone should know

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: what this number is, especially once you hit the age

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Speaker 1: of forty called apo B. Apo B is a protein

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00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: wrapper around all the bad forms of cholesterhol. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: air quotes here for your listeners, the bad forms LDL, VLDL, LP, LITLA,

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Speaker 1: all these forms of cholesterol that are damaging to your heart.

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Speaker 1: So if you know what your apo B level is,

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Speaker 1: you want to continually improve your diet, improve your activity,

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00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: your sleep, your exercise to get that lower and lower

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Speaker 1: so that you don't deposit cholesterol into your arteries.

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Speaker 2: Why are you seeing healthy people having all attacks?

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Speaker 1: You look, a lot of us look at an outward

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00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: appearance of someone and we say, oh, that person must

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Speaker 1: be healthy. They look thin, they look like they take

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Speaker 1: care of themselves. The reality is, what's going on under

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Speaker 1: the hood of our health is very different than what

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Speaker 1: we can see on the outside. I see a lot

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Speaker 1: of athletes in our practice. You know, these are people

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Speaker 1: that are trained athletes, that are at the top of

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Speaker 1: their profession, and when I do some simple blood tests

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Speaker 1: on them, I see they have a ton of inflammation,

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Speaker 1: They have metabolic disease, they have i ApoB the cholesterol marker,

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Speaker 1: their hormone levels are off, and we have the technology

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Speaker 1: now very simply to look at this. We just don't

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Speaker 1: because we look at the mirror and we say, well,

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Speaker 1: that must be healthy.

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Speaker 2: I look, Okay, how much of this is based on

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Speaker 2: family history and how much of it is lifestyle? Is

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Speaker 2: it based on genetics? Is it based on something that

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Speaker 2: we've inherited, or is it something we're creating for ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I think family history and our genetics has a role,

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Speaker 1: but it's much smaller than we think. And even if

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Speaker 1: you have a family history that is not your destiny,

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Speaker 1: your environment can turn off those genetic signals depending on

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Speaker 1: the lifestyle and the environment that you live in.

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Speaker 2: I love that you have that perspective. You always say

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Speaker 2: that to me as well, because we talk a lot

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00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: about our South Asian and Indian heritage and how some

1143
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: of the health markers that I have today. You'll always

1144
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: remind me that some of them are not my lifestyle

1145
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: but based on the past. But you feel very confident

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Speaker 2: that we can actually shift that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't worry too much with you

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: because you live an incredibly healthy lifestyle. So you're turning

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Speaker 1: off the genes that if you did not live an

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Speaker 1: incredibly healthy lifestyle, they would be turned on. They would

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Speaker 1: call damage quickly. And we're monitoring you, right, We're doing

1152
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: some simple blood tests that everyone has access to they

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: can ask their doctor for at any time to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you're under close monitoring so that your genetics

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Speaker 1: don't lead to an unhealthy destiny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that you have that positive

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: outlook because I think for a long time there was

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Speaker 2: this feeling that if you have a family history of this,

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Speaker 2: you're screwed right right, it's over for you, right, And

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Speaker 2: it's great for us to realize that we shouldn't live

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Speaker 2: in that trap, that mindset trap that hey, you're you're

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Speaker 2: destined for the same.

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Speaker 1: The place I see that the most is with Alzheimer's disease, right.

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Speaker 1: I talked to so many people that say, my mother

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Speaker 1: got Alzheimer's, so I know I'm destined to get Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 1: And I tell them right off the bat that even

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Speaker 1: if we did a gene test for you, there's a

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Speaker 1: gene test for Alzheimer's called a POE if that comes

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Speaker 1: up positive, that you have a higher risk of Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 1: We know we have the technology now to reverse that

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Speaker 1: trend and prevent Alzheimer's in you from ever occurring, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, we can keep you mentally sharp for the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life if you just put into place

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Speaker 1: simple lifestyle interventions.

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Speaker 2: Can we test for Alzheimer's disease?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is a great question because it's a

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Speaker 1: perfect example of this incredible age that we're living in. So,

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Speaker 1: through the power of computation and computers, we have found

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Speaker 1: protein signals in our blood that can tell us whether

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Speaker 1: or not you're headed towards Alzheimer's disease. Now, so now

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Speaker 1: with a simple blood test, we can see how likely

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Speaker 1: it is that you will get and this is not

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Speaker 1: genetic risk, this is actually developing Alzheimer's. Okay, So, the

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Speaker 1: old test for Alzheimer's was we would have to do

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Speaker 1: a high radiation scan of your brain to see if

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Speaker 1: you had potential Alzheimer's disease developing. Because the radiation, because

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Speaker 1: of the complexity of the scan, no one will get

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Speaker 1: it until you've had a lot of the signs and

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Speaker 1: symptoms of Alzheimer's. Now we can get this blood test

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Speaker 1: that highly correlates with the scan. It's called the Peetow

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Speaker 1: two seventeen blood tests. It's just come out a few

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Speaker 1: months ago. Actually, it is very new, and I'm incredibly

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Speaker 1: excited because now we can screen for Alzheimer's. We can

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Speaker 1: see if our treatments are working because this blood bio

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Speaker 1: marker can go up or down. It's actually a quantitative number.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a yes and no, so we can

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Speaker 1: actually see what direction you're headed and if the treatments

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Speaker 1: are working.

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Speaker 2: Something you mentioned. I feel like so many people don't

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Speaker 2: have to show. I feel like this fear of Alzheimer's,

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Speaker 2: especially if they have a family history, and you kind

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: to carry that fear around, right, and it's a hard

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: way to live because you're scared it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: There's data that proves it could be there. What should

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Speaker 2: you do if you are fearful that Alzheimer's runs in

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Speaker 2: your family, it could happen for you. What should you

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Speaker 2: be changing.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of the basics that we talked about,

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Speaker 1: but the things that are going to make the most

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Speaker 1: difference with Alzeimer's particularly is number one, getting into a

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Speaker 1: practice of giving your brain sometime to relax, right, and

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Speaker 1: you talk a lot about this, breath work, meditation. All

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Speaker 1: of this is so important. We live in a state

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Speaker 1: where our brain is hyperactive all the time, and just

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Speaker 1: turning down the noise in our brain once a day

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Speaker 1: is incredibly powerful. The second thing that you can do

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Speaker 1: is a technique called mental reprocessing. Our brain loves to work,

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Speaker 1: It loves to do something. Specifically, what it loves to

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Speaker 1: do is to learn new things, think about them, and

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Speaker 1: then talk about them to somebody else without like an

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Speaker 1: electronic device in front of you the whole time, right,

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Speaker 1: So reading, thinking about it, talking about that book to

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Speaker 1: somebody else very powerful. This is why there's this huge

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Speaker 1: study done on nuns that had genetic risk for Alzheimer's

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Speaker 1: but never got Alzheimer's even into their eighties and nineties.

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Speaker 1: And the reason is what were they doing. They were

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Speaker 1: constantly learning about religion through their Bible and talking about

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Speaker 1: and teaching it to people. This is what kept their

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Speaker 1: brains healthy. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that one.

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Speaker 2: H I love that one because, I mean that's why

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Speaker 2: people love podcasts, because you can listen to something on

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Speaker 2: a podcast. You have a podcast too. People can listen

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Speaker 2: to something, they can share it with someone. Does that

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Speaker 2: work as well if you're listening, or does it have

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Speaker 2: to be reading? No?

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Speaker 1: Listening? Learning active learning is actually very works incredibly well,

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Speaker 1: so doing something with your hands and learning in that fashion,

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Speaker 1: any type of learning learning, thinking about it, talking about it, teaching.

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Speaker 1: It is the cycle called mental reprocessing that works incredibly

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Speaker 1: well to keep your brain healthy.

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Speaker 2: I love that because I find that most of us.

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Speaker 2: The challenge is if you're not learning, you're just thinking,

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Speaker 2: and then you're overthinking. You're ruminating exactly, and you're thinking

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Speaker 2: about something that isn't that you. So you're thinking about

1247
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: the person that cut you off in traffic, or you're

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Speaker 2: thinking about the person who spoke to you badly at work,

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Speaker 2: or you're thinking about your boss or whatever maybe, And

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Speaker 2: none of those thoughts are learning or helping you or

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Speaker 2: healing you or making you happier or making you healthier.

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Speaker 2: They're just spinning around in your mind absolutely, And as

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Speaker 2: soon as you learn something, it interrupts that pattern now

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Speaker 2: and now you're like, oh, wait a minute, I learned

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Speaker 2: this really cool thing today, I'm going to share it

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Speaker 2: with three people. And all of a sudden that's actually

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Speaker 2: helping your brain.

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Speaker 1: Keeping your brain younger and healthier, is there's this chemical

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Speaker 1: hormone in our brain called BDNF. I think you and

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Speaker 1: F talked about it before. Brain derived neudropic growth factor.

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Speaker 1: This chemical one is secreting our brain. Causes our neurons

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Speaker 1: to connect, and so our brain is nothing but a

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Speaker 1: connection of the neurons that we're born with, right, And

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Speaker 1: the more connections we have, the more mentally sharp we are.

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Speaker 1: And as we age, those connections start to dissipate. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: as you sleep less, as you expose your shelf to

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01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: more toxins, this is a problem. The opposite of that

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Speaker 1: is having good levels of BDNF, Your BDNF increases, and

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Speaker 1: you've seen these studies with meditation increases, with active learning increases,

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Speaker 1: with exercise, walking increases BDNF levels. Anything you can do

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Speaker 1: to increase BDNF levels in your brain, you should be

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Speaker 1: doing it every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, really really accessible, practical steps. That's why I

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Speaker 2: love talking to you because that changes. There always things

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Speaker 2: any of us can do. You don't have to learn

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01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: a new habit, you don't need to go build a

1277
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Speaker 2: new skill, just finding time for these really really simple things.

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Speaker 1: You know, you said something powerful to me, and it

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Speaker 1: resonated with me because it elicits an emotional reaction. It's

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Speaker 1: this sphere of all Zemer's because you have a family

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01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: member that has it right, and so many people are

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Speaker 1: living with this fear. And whenever I see a patient

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Speaker 1: that comes in with this sphere, I tell them all

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Speaker 1: the things I talked about with you, But I also

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Speaker 1: hand them a book that I think is very powerful.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dale Bredeson wrote a book called The End of

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Speaker 1: all Zheimer's and it really gets your head wrapped around

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Speaker 1: the multifactorial nature of Alzheimer's and all the different things

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Speaker 1: that leads to it and is not just one gene.

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Speaker 1: It's not just amyloid for sure. We know that as

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Speaker 1: a fact, and it empowers you to understand that there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things you can do to prevent Alzheimer's

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Speaker 1: and even reverse it if you have signs of cognitive impairment.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's really important for the mindset shift

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Speaker 1: to happen, just for all of us as a population,

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Speaker 1: that this is not the destiny that we are going

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Speaker 1: to be handed. Is Alzheimer's disease or being frail that

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Speaker 1: does not have to happen. We can all live vibrant, long,

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Speaker 1: healthy lives. And I'm a big believer in education. There's

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Speaker 1: certain books that I love. We've talked about a few

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Speaker 1: of them. That's one that I think is very important.

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Speaker 2: If you have the fear of Alzheimer's, I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: talked about that. I'm glad you responded to that, because

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Speaker 2: I think the other fear we all have is a

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Speaker 2: fear of tense. I think I've lived my lifetime. I

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Speaker 2: think when I was young, it was one in four.

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Speaker 2: Then I saw it become one in three, like one

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Speaker 2: in two. And so when you have those odds, we're

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Speaker 2: sitting in this room thinking, well, that means one of us.

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Speaker 2: Right when you're with your friends, everyone's sitting there going

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Speaker 2: WHOA one of us is going to get it? And

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Speaker 2: that's a really sobering, painful experience, especially because so many

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Speaker 2: people right now are losing people to cancer, even people

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Speaker 2: are quite young. Yeah, you know, I have friends losing

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Speaker 2: people their age. I have mentors, I have uncles, aunts,

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Speaker 2: whoever may be. It feels like everyone I know at

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Speaker 2: a certain point has it. Now, how do I avoid

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Speaker 2: getting cancer? Right? Right? So?

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Speaker 1: I do want to say something about those statistics though,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's important to understand the nuance behind it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there are more cancers being discovered. For certain types of cancer.

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Speaker 1: For example, younger and younger people are getting callon cancer

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Speaker 1: and it's perplexing everybody. You know, I think I know why,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's a big problem. Right However, other cancers,

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Speaker 1: because we have better screening for cancers, we're diagnosing more

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Speaker 1: more of them, but we're also treating more of them

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Speaker 1: at a much earlier stage.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I always say cancer's biggest enemy is being diagnosed as

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Speaker 1: stage one. Right at stage one, you're talking cure. At

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Speaker 1: stage three or four, you're talking five year survival rates.

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Speaker 1: But not to discount the issue that there is a

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Speaker 1: higher incidents of cancer right now, and we do need

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Speaker 1: to be more cognizant, and I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons for that. A lot of those reasons are

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Speaker 1: at the root causes of health that we talked about,

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Speaker 1: poor metabolic health, inflammation, exposure to toxins. Once you start

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Speaker 1: understanding those are the root causes and you start doing

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Speaker 1: something about those root causes, your personal cancer risk starts

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Speaker 1: to go down. And I think that's important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the way you just brought that back,

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Speaker 2: because it's all connected. It's all connected, right, It's not like, oh,

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Speaker 2: if you do tonsins, it will get you this, and

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Speaker 2: if you do you know, microplastics will get you this.

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Speaker 2: It's not like a float shot. It's literally like, no,

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Speaker 2: this is all connected. Yeah, and each of it can

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Speaker 2: spiral off in any way.

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Speaker 1: Those fours we talked about with heart disease, guess what,

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Speaker 1: those are also four factors that could potentially lead to cancer. Right, inflammation,

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Speaker 1: metabolic disease, high blood pressure, poor vascular those are all

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Speaker 1: things that lead to cancer, all things that lead to Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 1: That's all connected to these root causes of health.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that actually is beneficial for us because means

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Speaker 2: we don't have to think about all of these things.

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Speaker 2: We just need to think about the basics and then

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Speaker 2: the core principles you've spoken about today to actually help

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Speaker 2: us with all of that. It's not like we have

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Speaker 2: to have a different game plan for Alzheimer's. In a

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Speaker 2: different game plan for cancer and a different game plan

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Speaker 2: for heart disease, you can have the same game plan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very well said, it's the same game plan it's

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Speaker 1: just understanding what those key.

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Speaker 2: Moves are, right, yeah, yeah, and knowing how the strategy

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Speaker 2: changes when there's like that's how I like to think

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Speaker 2: about it. If we're athletes preparing for a game, you

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Speaker 2: can't predict what's going to happen in the game. You

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Speaker 2: can plan for the game, and then based on your

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Speaker 2: opponent's moves, you then strategically have to shift. And the

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Speaker 2: quicker you spot your opponent shift in strategy, the better

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Speaker 2: you cancer. The quicker we spot cancer, the quicker we

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Speaker 2: see signs of ought disease, the quicker we see signs

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Speaker 2: of Alzheimer's, the quicker we can make progress. Right, how

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Speaker 2: late or early are we spotting cancer, heart disease Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, is still too late. The way the current Western

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Speaker 1: medical system is set up is we wait until things

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Speaker 1: get to a danger zone before we start doing something

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Speaker 1: about it right. And the reality is we have the

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Speaker 1: technology to spot all of these things twenty to thirty

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Speaker 1: years prior to getting a diagnosis. We're just not doing

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Speaker 1: it right. And so there are blood biomarkers, like we

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Speaker 1: talked about for metabolic health, there are scans that you

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Speaker 1: can do that are extremely preventive for cancer. If everyone

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Speaker 1: you know out there listening. If you're over the age

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Speaker 1: of forty, you have not a colonoscopy done, get it done.

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Speaker 1: These are things that your insurance cover. Skin cancer is

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Speaker 1: another great example of this. There are apps now that

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Speaker 1: you can scan molds and see if they're cancerous or not. Right,

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Speaker 1: most people wait until it's just way too late to

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Speaker 1: go see a doctor and ask about it. So I

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Speaker 1: think there's some level of personal responsibility that we have

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Speaker 1: to take here to be more proactive and understand what

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Speaker 1: are some of these markers, what do they mean, and

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Speaker 1: can we check them earlier? And also we have to

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Speaker 1: challenge our medical professionals that we see, why are you

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Speaker 1: not checking certain blood biomarkers. We need to check these

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis every time you go to the doctor.

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Speaker 1: Every year. I think it's important to ask your doctor

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Speaker 1: to check for metabolic health, for inflammation, for ApoB the

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Speaker 1: heart biomarket that we talked about.

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Speaker 2: Let's just list that for people. Yeah, if you could

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Speaker 2: give people a list of everything they should check today

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Speaker 2: to ensure that they have a healthy life, what should

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Speaker 2: they be checking, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Give you the list. But I also also have this

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Speaker 1: on my website. We can link to this in the show.

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Speaker 1: Note there are ten key biomarkers that I look at,

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Speaker 1: and I empower my patients to follow these on their own.

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Speaker 1: That's the key going to care more about your health

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Speaker 1: than you do. Everyone deals with the spreadsheet in one

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Speaker 1: form of any other. Just make one with these ten

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Speaker 1: markers on it. Put the dates on the top, the

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Speaker 1: ten markers on the left. Just start following them yourself, right,

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Speaker 1: And so some of them are blood tests. Some of

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Speaker 1: them are simple tests to obtain at home, such as

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Speaker 1: your blood pressure that we talked about. And I can

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Speaker 1: list a few of these for you, and then we

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Speaker 1: can give people a resource. Right, Okay, So some blood

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Speaker 1: tests that everyone needs to understand hemoglobin A one C.

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Speaker 1: This is a three month average of your blood glucose.

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Speaker 1: Your doctor won't raise an alarm until it gets to

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Speaker 1: five point seven or above. That's pre diabetes, six point

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Speaker 1: five or above his diabetes. You want to keep it

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Speaker 1: as close to five point two or below. That's optimal range.

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Speaker 1: If it starts ticking up to five point four, five

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Speaker 1: point five, five point six, now we have a problem.

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Speaker 1: We can just start making changes in our diet. In

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Speaker 1: our movement to get it back in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Inflammation is tracked by a biomarker called E just CRP

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Speaker 1: highly sensitive C reactive protein. This is a very simple,

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Speaker 1: extremely inexpensive blood test. Your insurance covers it. You want

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Speaker 1: this as close to zero as possible. If it's over

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Speaker 1: one or two, there's inflammation going on, most likely in

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Speaker 1: your gut. Your gut starts at your mouth. You look

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Speaker 1: at your oral health as well. The next biomarker we

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Speaker 1: talked about at length is ApoB that's the one of

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Speaker 1: your cardiac risk of all the bad forms of cholesterol.

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Speaker 1: I also like tracking vitamin D levels. This is vitamin

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Speaker 1: D is a hormone. We track yours. We know that

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Speaker 1: you know we need to supplement the vitamin D. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's hard to be out in the sun thirty forty

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Speaker 1: minutes a day. Right. Then there are markers that you

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Speaker 1: can do at home. Blood pressure. There's a special kind

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Speaker 1: of scale that I try to get everyone to buy.

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Speaker 1: Is a scale that goes way beyond weight. Weight to me,

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Speaker 1: is not super useful. What is useful is amount of

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Speaker 1: skeletal muscle mass you have and how much fat mass

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Speaker 1: you have. You always want to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: have enough skeletal mustle so that you can live your

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Speaker 1: day to day life. But also your metabolism lives in

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Speaker 1: your muscle. People that struggle with poor metabolic health often

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Speaker 1: have a lack of good amounts of skeletal muscle, and

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Speaker 1: so we can track this using what's called the bio

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Speaker 1: impotent scale. These are like twenty bucks. You can buy

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Speaker 1: them and you step on them with bare feet. This

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Speaker 1: is electrical current that you don't even feel, goes through

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Speaker 1: your body and it tells you these numbers and you

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Speaker 1: see what direction you're headed in. What's really important here

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Speaker 1: is men after the age of forty women after menopause,

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Speaker 1: we start decreasing our skeletal muscle mass rapidly, and you

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Speaker 1: want to start increasing your protein intake and increasing your

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Speaker 1: strength workouts to track this skeletal muscle mass as well.

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Speaker 1: So these are some of them, and there's a few

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Speaker 1: more that are a little bit more technical but easy

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Speaker 1: to follow. Once again, cheap easy insurance cover some of

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Speaker 1: these things. I think it's important to empower yourself with

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Speaker 1: these numbers. And where can people go to get my

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Speaker 1: website doctorshaw dot com and there's links right on there.

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Speaker 1: They're free. I want everyone to have them. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to come to me as your doctor. Bring this

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Speaker 1: list to your doctor. That's fantastic, Doctor Show you. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: every time we talk, I walk away feeling lighter, I

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Speaker 1: feel clear, and I feel so confident that I can

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Speaker 1: actually make a change in my health. And I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad that you share things in such a concise, interesting

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Speaker 1: and also optimistic lens. You that people can go and

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Speaker 1: live and make a change in their life. And these

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Speaker 1: resources are going to be huge for people. I think

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Speaker 1: this episode is going to be one that everyone's going

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Speaker 1: to share with a friend, a family member, whether you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with a fear, whether you're worried about a particular

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Speaker 1: health challenge that you might have, or you're just trying

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Speaker 1: to get the basics right and be on the lookout

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Speaker 1: for toxins in microplastics. I hope this episode has served

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Speaker 1: you today. Doctors Show, Is anything that I didn't ask

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Speaker 1: you about that you really want to talk about or

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Speaker 1: share with me and my audience? Yeah, I think you know.

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Speaker 1: One important topic that you talk a lot about is

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Speaker 1: how does mental health tie into all of this? And

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Speaker 1: I think it's so important, and I'm seeing this more

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Speaker 1: and more in my own clinical practice that if I

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Speaker 1: don't address mental health, the physical health sometimes struggles in following.

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Speaker 1: But also the opposite of true when I have patients

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Speaker 1: that have struggling with mental health issue, whether it be depression, anxiety,

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Speaker 1: attention deficit, bipolar. If we're not looking at the biomarkers

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Speaker 1: and what's going on in your biology, we're never going

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Speaker 1: to be able to make major changes up here, right.

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Speaker 1: And so a lot of people are on the high

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Speaker 1: doses of medication, sometimes multiple medications, and guess what, the

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Speaker 1: minute we get their hormones fixed, they're vitamin D fixed,

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Speaker 1: they start reducing their dosage. We get people off medications

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Speaker 1: a lot of times, so they're so interconnected. So my

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Speaker 1: reason for bringing that up is a lot of people

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Speaker 1: they feel physically fine, but they're struggling with mental health issues.

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Speaker 1: They still need to look under the hood and see

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Speaker 1: what's going on in their biology.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you raised that. I encourage my community

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Speaker 2: to do the same because I think for a long

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Speaker 2: time mine was the other way around, where I'd like

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Speaker 2: figured out the mind and then had to focus on

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Speaker 2: the body a little bit. And you realize how interconnected

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Speaker 2: they are. And I can agree with you more. I

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Speaker 2: think so much of what we're dealing with mentally could

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Speaker 2: be solved with the right change in nutrition, sleep, diet supplements, vitamins,

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Speaker 2: everything that you were talking about. You could make so

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Speaker 2: many shifts or at least positive improvements. Yes, and I

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Speaker 2: would encourage anyone who's struggling with something mentally to also

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Speaker 2: go and prioritize these things that seem very physical, but

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Speaker 2: ultimately it's just health exactly right.

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Speaker 1: It's just one big thing. Yeah, we're connected beings. We

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Speaker 1: don't have a cardiovascular system and a nervous system. It's

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Speaker 1: all one part of our being, and our emotional health

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Speaker 1: and our physical health are so interrelated.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Everyone subscribed to doctor Shah's podcast Extend if you

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Speaker 2: want to hear more from him and the experts that

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Speaker 2: he connects with. As I said, doctor Shaw's doctor, I

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Speaker 2: trust him, I work hard with him. I'm always trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out new ways to be better, healthier and happier.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like you just again, this is just

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Speaker 2: another masterclass. It was thank you brilliant to have you

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Speaker 2: back on, and this is going to be one of

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Speaker 2: those episodes I know people are going to get so

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Speaker 2: much value from I hope.

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Speaker 1: So that's my purpose in life. I want to empower

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Speaker 1: each and every person, each and every one of your

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Speaker 1: listeners to have full control of their health and feel

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Speaker 1: like they have the power to avoid chronic disease and

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Speaker 1: turn their health around.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely thank you. If this year you're trying to live longer,

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Speaker 2: live happier, live healthier, go and check out my conversation

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Speaker 2: with the world's biggest longevity doctor, Peter Attia on how

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Speaker 2: to slow down aging and why your emotional health is

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Speaker 2: directly impacting your physical health. Acknowledge that there is surprisingly

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Speaker 2: little known about the relationship between nutrition and health, and

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Speaker 2: people are going to be shocked to hear that, because

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Speaker 2: I think most people think the exact opposite