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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, funny word progressive.
Speaker 3: Okay, do we want to go with the migrant now?
Speaker 5: Should we wait till later? How are we going to
Speaker 5: do this? We can get it off my chest right now.
Speaker 2: That's Mike macarthy others press conference.
Speaker 6: Yes he has Okay, where you at? Where you at
Speaker 6: the press conference?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 4: I I kind of had a funny.
Speaker 3: Stop. Man, it's the only way you're gonna get through it.
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Speaker 5: Hey, I had a question. Okay, well it was another observation.
Speaker 5: So we have an all ladies podcast, right, uh huh.
Speaker 5: I'd love to be on that that podcast.
Speaker 4: Well, well you're talking to the wrong two people.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you know, they you know when we
Speaker 5: mix it up and be nice to sit in with
Speaker 5: the ladies and see what they're talking about.
Speaker 3: Uh, because I never you know, have you never really
Speaker 3: heard the podcast.
Speaker 2: You don't have to sit in on the podcast. You
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Speaker 3: Yeah, or just you know, take it in and give
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Speaker 4: Call in and tell tell Jazz that you got a
Speaker 4: question for them.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna listen because I've really never heard a table
Speaker 5: for the ladies talk about sports, and so yeah, it'd
Speaker 5: be very interesting.
Speaker 4: We're very progressive here with the Dallas Cowboys. We have
Speaker 4: women that do things.
Speaker 3: I know, but we never talk about it here.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so i'd love.
Speaker 6: To be Okay, we'll put that request.
Speaker 3: I grew up with nothing but women anyway, so you know,
Speaker 3: i'd love.
Speaker 6: To hear in the same way.
Speaker 2: I have three sisters and I've got three dollars.
Speaker 3: Man. You know, at one point my dog was even
Speaker 3: a lady.
Speaker 2: So I've got two dogs.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: No, just just we're training the two dogs. There are
Speaker 2: six months. So we're training them right now to do
Speaker 2: what to just not jump. You ought to see my
Speaker 2: arm where the dog jumped on me this morning when
Speaker 2: the trainer came over teaching him play soft.
Speaker 3: It was just a thought. It's just a thought. So ladies,
Speaker 3: you know you all right?
Speaker 6: Very good?
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Mickey's got a legal pad filled with all sorts of
Speaker 2: things he.
Speaker 6: Wants to talk about.
Speaker 2: And we had some player transactions that have happened.
Speaker 3: Have we met the guy yet?
Speaker 4: I think he should be here today.
Speaker 6: Jonathan Mingo is the guy.
Speaker 4: Guy and Mike did a good job of explaining what
Speaker 4: we explained, yes, okay, good which there was a lot
Speaker 4: of people.
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to listen to the press commercy that
Speaker 2: on the phone driving in.
Speaker 4: A lot of people on talk radio should have been
Speaker 4: listening to us yesterday explaining what did he explain? Well,
Speaker 4: he basically said it was a guy that they uh
Speaker 4: that you got to trust the draft process, guy that
Speaker 4: they liked, and it was an opportunity to take advantage
Speaker 4: of and so they did and they were looking at
Speaker 4: the future. It's not like this guy, as we explained yesterday,
Speaker 4: was going to save the season. And then we explained
Speaker 4: how everybody needed to understand all these other receivers that
Speaker 4: got traded got traded for less because they're thirty some
Speaker 4: years old and have baggage with a salary can and.
Speaker 2: They're only going to be with their team for the
Speaker 2: rest of this season.
Speaker 4: Yes, and there was a bunch of people on talk
Speaker 4: radio that forced me to go listen to music on
Speaker 4: the way because they didn't listen to us and they
Speaker 4: were being unreasonable. And even though one person was being
Speaker 4: reasonable and explaining it just the way we did, they
Speaker 4: don't want to hear it. So we've hit this ditch
Speaker 4: right now that anything the Cowboys do is wrong but
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Well because it's not work because whatever they're doing right now.
Speaker 4: Is not work the way everybody wants it to work.
Speaker 3: But the process you're saying is valid.
Speaker 2: By the way, there's another thing that I didn't bring
Speaker 2: up yesterday that should be brought up.
Speaker 4: I got a card to the round draft picks.
Speaker 2: Understanding the compensatory picks. I was just going to say
Speaker 2: that the Cowboys are going to have in the next draft,
Speaker 2: and it's the compensatory process is based on who you
Speaker 2: lose in free agency and their production for those teams,
Speaker 2: meaning how many games they start playing time so forth,
Speaker 2: as opposed to who you signed in free agency and
Speaker 2: what the Cowboys when you look at the lack of activity,
Speaker 2: this is unrestricted free agents that they signed, okay, and
Speaker 2: unrestricted free agents that you lose, which would include Tony Pollard.
Speaker 2: All Cowboy fans need to be rooting for Tony Pollard
Speaker 2: to be healthy all season and have a great season
Speaker 2: with the Tennessee Titans. You want Tyron Smith to be
Speaker 2: a healthy all season and do start every game for
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. Tyler Biadish with Washington, Dante Fowler,
Speaker 2: Darrence Armstrong, all those guys need to have well unless
Speaker 2: they're maybe not the Washington guys but the other.
Speaker 4: Guys Okay, but just not when you play it right,
Speaker 4: as long as long as they're playing, it's not even
Speaker 4: so much based on their stats.
Speaker 3: Waime, you've got.
Speaker 2: But you've got but you've got all of those players
Speaker 2: against and and it's factored in how many compensatory picks
Speaker 2: factored in against how much you gained an unrestricted free
Speaker 2: agency and the Cowboys gained.
Speaker 6: Kendricks, Eric Hendricks.
Speaker 4: I don't know Zeke Kendricks and Zeke were after the deadline.
Speaker 2: Right deadline in late April, and they were the only two,
Speaker 2: which is the reason that you wait until that time
Speaker 2: to sign because you're keeping in mind the compensitory.
Speaker 4: So there's a chance they could get a fourth for sure,
Speaker 4: maybe a fifth, maybe.
Speaker 2: They're likely no one, no one knows what the formula
Speaker 2: exactly is.
Speaker 6: They don't reveal that.
Speaker 2: But I would not be at all surprised if the
Speaker 2: Cowboys have three compensatory picks.
Speaker 4: Right, and that that was another thing that you needed
Speaker 4: to consider. So I can trade a fourth and you know,
Speaker 4: no one's you know, all the people that saw Jordan
Speaker 4: Phillips come in here, Oh Jordan Phillips.
Speaker 6: Right, well it's a sixth row.
Speaker 2: But here's the value of the seventh round pick that
Speaker 2: they got in this trade is you didn't take that seventh,
Speaker 2: couple it with your fifth, and you move back into
Speaker 2: the fourth.
Speaker 4: Okay, right, So yeah, exactly, and that no one looks
Speaker 4: at it that way. They just want to overreact.
Speaker 6: So the fourth round pick is nothing.
Speaker 3: So there you go, all right, feel better?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, got that off, all right? So that was
Speaker 4: first and then Micah was supposed to practice on a
Speaker 4: limited basis today said he was looking good, but they'll,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of judge how it goes and how
Speaker 4: much he does c D. They said they're going to
Speaker 4: be slow with him. He'll be with the probably the
Speaker 4: rehab group. He's not going to do much on the field.
Speaker 4: Juan Ye's probably still out concussion protocol, so he's not
Speaker 4: ready to go. And who am I forgetting.
Speaker 2: So when he was laying on the field, that's what
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they helped him walk off and then Bland
Speaker 4: still with the rehab group, and you know, Mike got asked,
Speaker 4: I think it was on the walk off, did he
Speaker 4: have a setback? And it's like, no, it's just the progression.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: What has it been two months now since the injury?
Speaker 2: Was in training camp underrun? Yes, yeah, well they hadn't
Speaker 2: played in the game, so it was.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 6: No, no, August.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I always get the A always.
Speaker 4: I didn't get to do anything for three months when
Speaker 4: I fractured mine.
Speaker 5: So stop comparing yourself to athletes, bro, I know.
Speaker 6: But I did.
Speaker 4: I didn't do an athletic stuff. Well he's not as
Speaker 4: old as I am, but it's taken about its long.
Speaker 2: It what he's got to do is a little different, Yes,
Speaker 2: you have. And then the other news from yesterday. Now
Speaker 2: we we the Andrew Booth happened earlier, but Jordan Phillips,
Speaker 2: the other one that was let go.
Speaker 4: I don't know why it took so long for both
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: Well they were checking you got past the trade deadline, right,
Speaker 2: Probably couldn't or for Jordan Phillips for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then the other thing.
Speaker 3: And so that they turned out to be a big
Speaker 3: waste of time.
Speaker 6: Well they did even solid because.
Speaker 2: Today is the day that all players that are released
Speaker 2: are subject to waivers. Yesterday was the last day that
Speaker 2: you can release a veteran player and he can just
Speaker 2: sign with anybody who wants to sign with.
Speaker 6: He's not subject to waivers.
Speaker 2: So so now that's why you saw a lot of
Speaker 2: veteran guys that were released after the trade deadline yesterday,
Speaker 2: because there's that like a twenty four hour window where
Speaker 2: they can be released yesterday, right, and then maybe maybe
Speaker 2: it probably was before three o'clock yesterday, But starting today,
Speaker 2: all players that are released, no matter how many years
Speaker 2: of service they have, are subject to the waivers.
Speaker 4: Right, because you can't just let somebody go and do
Speaker 4: us solid.
Speaker 6: For your buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why they have it in fantasy football too.
Speaker 6: I know you're big on.
Speaker 4: That, so I guess I should I guess I shouldn't
Speaker 4: say what took him so long because they were dead
Speaker 4: weight to me, both of them. Phips Phillips played the
Speaker 4: first two games.
Speaker 2: Well, they were hoping they could get that.
Speaker 6: That's why I said. I didn't explains it.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize because he only played thirty four snaps,
Speaker 4: got one assisted tackle, and it's like and then he
Speaker 4: went on ir much to his chagrin. And then they
Speaker 4: started him on the practice part of it the last
Speaker 4: two weeks and he didn't get activated, so they knew
Speaker 4: he wasn't they were going to They were going to
Speaker 4: release him Booth after he got benched in the Giants
Speaker 4: game at halftime. I think he played in maybe two
Speaker 4: more games, uh maybe special teams in a couple defensive snaps,
Speaker 4: and they weren't going to put him out there. They
Speaker 4: were going to put Josh Butler out there before they
Speaker 4: activated him to play.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Jordan back on Jordan Phillips, he
Speaker 2: has signed with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6: Okay, so that's.
Speaker 3: What that's where he came from.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: He was with them last year, but he was with
Speaker 2: the Giants in training camp when the Cowboys traded for him.
Speaker 4: So the Cowboys traded twenty twenty sixth, sixth and they
Speaker 4: got a seventh back so.
Speaker 6: In the in the twenty sixth draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And then the Bills also signed defensive tackle
Speaker 2: Quentin Jefferson, who was let go yesterday too.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a lot of moves by people, but
Speaker 4: you got to understand what's going on. So did Philadelphia
Speaker 4: pick up anybody?
Speaker 7: We got to be aware of.
Speaker 6: I didn't see that. Washington didn't. Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Who did Washington pick up?
Speaker 2: But they got Marshaun Lattimore the cornerback?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 6: Thanks?
Speaker 4: Was he still playing for this?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I playing?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, he I mean I know he was there, Yes,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: Never I never knew he was that good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all I know was that he was He battles
Speaker 5: a lot, but I didn't know the guy four Pro.
Speaker 3: Bowls, uh.
Speaker 5: And every time he goes up against Tampa he's having
Speaker 5: to fight with who.
Speaker 3: I think it's Evans. I just that's the part I
Speaker 3: know about him, And.
Speaker 4: Then I saw somebody, uh picked up Chardavius White cornerback
Speaker 4: yep from the Rams and he wasn't playing. He'd been
Speaker 4: in active the last four weeks.
Speaker 3: So he requested a trade three weeks ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he went to Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Baltimore, they finally nice, finally sent him on.
Speaker 3: I take that.
Speaker 4: So, I don't know what else.
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 4: If the Cowboys were going to make a trade to
Speaker 4: help this season, it would have had to been a
Speaker 4: defensive end and not just rent the guy for nine games.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing. I think that any move
Speaker 2: that they made needed to be with a rec three
Speaker 2: and five record. You just have to look at it objectively.
Speaker 2: With a three and five record, any you don't want
Speaker 2: to give up a draft pick whatever on a rental
Speaker 2: player for the second half of this season. It needed
Speaker 2: to be someone who like a Jonathan Mingo, who had
Speaker 2: you have for the next couple of years as well. Right,
Speaker 2: And as we talked about yesterday, when you look at
Speaker 2: the inventory of wide receivers on this team going into
Speaker 2: next year, they've got, you know, Brandon Cooks becoming a
Speaker 2: free there's opportunities that are there and the other thing
Speaker 2: is like, for instance, you take a fourth round draft,
Speaker 2: fourth round wide receiver Everson a rookie, fourth round wide receiver,
Speaker 2: what are the chances How long is it you usually
Speaker 2: take for a player like that to start contributing in
Speaker 2: the NFL A couple of years exactly, And that's what
Speaker 2: they've done with And so now you've got a guy
Speaker 2: who in Mingo, who has two years under his belt
Speaker 2: going into next season. So do you expect him? Okay,
Speaker 2: Now you've got a guy who's not going to be
Speaker 2: bothered by the transition to the league or anything like that.
Speaker 2: He's mature enough in the league where okay, if he's
Speaker 2: got anything, he should be showing it sort of. Whereas
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick next year, you're not counting on
Speaker 2: him to do much of anything except maybe being a
Speaker 2: special teams player, I mean his rookie season.
Speaker 4: Take Jalen Tobert for example. Now, I know it was
Speaker 4: a third round pick, but it took him a couple
Speaker 4: of years, and now you're starting to see some payoff
Speaker 4: for that third round pick. So yeah, it takes some time.
Speaker 4: The other thing, I thought Mike McCarthy had a really
Speaker 4: good segment at eight fifty of its press conference.
Speaker 2: Okay, he was after, now they take a commercial break,
Speaker 2: right next segment, Well, we'll be talking about.
Speaker 4: Actually it was just on the time clock about young quarterbacks,
Speaker 4: and basically he was saying, if if if I have
Speaker 4: someone that's a young quarterback, I want him to stay
Speaker 4: in college as long as he can and get as
Speaker 4: many snaps as he can, because when you come in
Speaker 4: the NFL, it's a whole different ballgame. And if you
Speaker 4: can afford to let him sit a year or two, uh,
Speaker 4: you got a chance to develop a guy. But it's
Speaker 4: really tough to come from playing one year or two
Speaker 4: years in college and then come in in the NFL
Speaker 4: and think they're immediately going to start.
Speaker 3: And it's not just that.
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes I sit here and I criticize guys
Speaker 5: because of what I see them do versus what I in.
Speaker 3: My what I remember I used to do.
Speaker 5: I must admit, as tough as it was my rookie year,
Speaker 5: I was surrounded by a bunch of bad players. I
Speaker 5: mean not bad no, no, no, I mean bad ass players.
Speaker 3: I meant to say.
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, I got Brandy too tall, I
Speaker 5: got Harvey right, you know, I mean have players around
Speaker 5: me that really helped pick me up those times that
Speaker 5: I was getting toasted that first.
Speaker 3: Half of my rookie pretty too.
Speaker 5: Right, we never the linebackers and the flex, they were
Speaker 5: never meant to be stars stars, know, they were just
Speaker 5: meant to do their job because back then, that's when
Speaker 5: you just needed a defense that just need to be.
Speaker 3: Coordinated, which is what the flex was all about.
Speaker 5: So, but when these guys come in, whether it's a
Speaker 5: wide receiver or a defensive back, they really don't have
Speaker 5: that kind of support of a really dynamic team this year,
Speaker 5: and that's something that always should be centered. I know
Speaker 5: from from my point of view, when I started critiquing
Speaker 5: how these guys play, they didn't really have the assistance
Speaker 5: that I had back in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2: And to McCarthy's point on Cooper Rush, here's a guy
Speaker 2: that played fifty games at Central Michigan after a red
Speaker 2: shirt year at Central Michigan. He threw sixteen hundred and
Speaker 2: forty eight passes in his collegiate career for nearly thirteen
Speaker 2: thousand yards. And then he sits and sits and sits
Speaker 2: and goes five and one along the way and now
Speaker 2: here he is, and compare that with Trey Lance, who
Speaker 2: for one season, sixteen game season win in a national
Speaker 2: championship at the FCS level with North Dakota State, had
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty pass attempts. Wow, And now he
Speaker 2: gets drafted third pick in the draft, and now he's
Speaker 2: sitting and sitting and sitting, but he's not getting reps
Speaker 2: and reps and reps.
Speaker 6: So here we are.
Speaker 2: Tony Romo is another example, right, a guy that was
Speaker 2: three year starter at Eastern Illinois and then he sits
Speaker 2: and sits and sits, and if he got thrown in
Speaker 2: his rookie year, he would have been like Trey Lance.
Speaker 2: And it was because and he had a lot of.
Speaker 6: Reps in college as opposed to Lance's.
Speaker 2: All right, we continue with more mixed shots in just
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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the deal on the unrestricted free agents that
Speaker 2: the Cowboys signed this offseason. We mentioned Eric Kendricks. He
Speaker 2: was not an unrestricted free agent because he was a
Speaker 2: cap casualty with the Chargers, and so he was. And
Speaker 2: then Ezekiel Elliott was signed the day after. He was
Speaker 2: signed on April thirtieth. And the rule on unrestricted free
Speaker 2: agents is if the player has received a tender from
Speaker 2: their prior club by the Monday immediately following the final
Speaker 2: day of the draft, he falls into that compensatory and
Speaker 2: so he did not receive a tender from the Patriots,
Speaker 2: and that took you through. April twenty ninth was the
Speaker 2: final day that an unrestricted free agent would count and
Speaker 2: the compensatory pot. And so he was signed on April thirtieth,
Speaker 2: so the Cowboys, So take it back. The Cowboys knew
Speaker 2: for probably for several weeks before the signing of Zeke
Speaker 2: became official, that they were going to sign Zeke, but
Speaker 2: they were waiting until April thirtieth to do it so
Speaker 2: that he did not fall into the pool of conpensantory.
Speaker 4: I mean, they were that smart.
Speaker 6: I'm just assuming. I'm just assuming that was the case.
Speaker 4: Was it an accident? What if you sign your own
Speaker 4: guys back, does that count?
Speaker 6: That doesn't, That does not does not know. It's who
Speaker 6: you lose and who you gain.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so there you go. Kind of complicated
Speaker 2: it is, But that's how we have parody in this league.
Speaker 2: And that's why the NFC West has a five and
Speaker 2: four team, of two four and four teams and a
Speaker 2: four and five team.
Speaker 4: And a bunch of two and seven teams.
Speaker 6: In the league. Well, you know the NFC West.
Speaker 4: Here's what I Here's here's what I realized. The Eagles
Speaker 4: are on a four game winning streak. They've beaten two
Speaker 4: and seven, two and seven, two and seven, and four
Speaker 4: and five? Am I right? That would be they've beaten Cleveland, Cleveland,
Speaker 4: the Gaiantville and the Giants, and then they beat Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: That's four and five. Not trying to talk into anything Friday,
Speaker 4: but just thought i'd point that out.
Speaker 5: Well, if it was the Cowboys, then someone else would
Speaker 5: be pointing that out.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying that's saying the same thing.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 5: And you know, I saw that the Eagles team. The
Speaker 5: best thing about those guys is they don't beat themselves.
Speaker 5: And that's starting number one from the quarterback position, Jalen
Speaker 5: Hurts will eat it and sacrifice his body rather than
Speaker 5: trying to make the big player make the big turnover.
Speaker 5: He'll take that on himself, right, and then that defense
Speaker 5: will come out and give him another chance and another
Speaker 5: and another chance.
Speaker 3: That's why they're there there there.
Speaker 5: Scoring against them is is so meager, and they're not
Speaker 5: really trying to blow anybody up. They're Justy're just out
Speaker 5: there trying to They're gonna they just want to score
Speaker 5: more points than you.
Speaker 3: They're not. They don't like style points. You know that.
Speaker 2: I think Unhurts, I think that's the key on him
Speaker 2: is when they're playing well, he's not turning it over.
Speaker 2: Because if you look even this season, looking at his
Speaker 2: stats this season, he had turnovers in the first three games.
Speaker 2: They off to a slower start. Okay, they went to
Speaker 2: and to their first four games, and he's not turning
Speaker 2: the ball over in the last four games. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you look at him last season, he had fifteen interceptions
Speaker 2: and how their season go last season not good, Yeah
Speaker 2: and so, and a lot of that has to do
Speaker 2: I think with Okay, he was ques playing from behind
Speaker 2: in games to that sort of thing. And even though
Speaker 2: you know I watched him closely one year is one
Speaker 2: year at Oklahoma, and that was one of the frustrations
Speaker 2: that I had was sometimes he would take some chances
Speaker 2: in in competitive games where and so. But when things
Speaker 2: are going well, he's great and handling that, you know,
Speaker 2: but a tight situation.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, you start off the super Bowl, made the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, did a great job in the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Maybe on the track to be the NV balers.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 5: Then the next year he didn't do so well and
Speaker 5: everyone started to question, okay, is this guy really the guy.
Speaker 3: That we want?
Speaker 6: And that was his fifteen pickure.
Speaker 3: That they want to start the question. He learned. And
Speaker 3: not only did he learn, his team learn because they.
Speaker 5: But now their play calling and their strategy doing every
Speaker 5: game is you just stay cool, Jalen.
Speaker 3: The defense has your back.
Speaker 2: Which is why they made a change in play callers
Speaker 2: this year. And the White Kellen Mories the.
Speaker 4: Interesting So the Cowboys have to face Kellen Moore and
Speaker 4: Vic Fangio. That's right, So they know the coordinators and
Speaker 4: the coordinators know them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so you know there there needs to be
Speaker 5: a moment to wear at least a few moments to
Speaker 5: where we think, okay, uh, is this team that bad
Speaker 5: or is this.
Speaker 3: Team being coached improperly.
Speaker 5: That's one thing you got to look at because it
Speaker 5: is about coordinators sometimes, and especially when you have the
Speaker 5: familiarity that these coordinators have with each other. It's gonna
Speaker 5: when it comes to Dan dan quinn, that's going to
Speaker 5: be a thing. It's really as much as players versus players.
Speaker 5: This is coaches versus coaches.
Speaker 4: Going, well, they better know what he does.
Speaker 3: That This is coaches versus coaches.
Speaker 4: And you were mentioning, so I just looked up the
Speaker 4: Eagles have the third ranked total defense m hm. So
Speaker 4: if you're playing well defensively, you can afford a couple
Speaker 4: of mistakes ascon or you can afford not to score
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of points to have to win. Unlike
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. If they're not scoring thirty, chances are they're
Speaker 4: not winning the ballgame.
Speaker 3: So the scheme, the scheme is extremely important.
Speaker 5: And right now we've been we've been outplayed and outschemed
Speaker 5: especially when we play at home.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at two of the Eagles wins. They
Speaker 4: won fifteen to twelve and twenty to sixteen, so that helps.
Speaker 5: I mean I watched those games and they were you know,
Speaker 5: I was not impressed, right, I was not like the
Speaker 5: Falcons before we play them, and even after we play them,
Speaker 5: still not impressed. I'm just even less impressed by our team,
Speaker 5: which is a problem.
Speaker 2: Aj Brown. His injury status is one that will be
Speaker 2: tracking throughout the week too. He did get good news
Speaker 2: on his MRI yesterday or Monday, no structural issues, more
Speaker 2: of a bruise. Has a chance to play this week.
Speaker 4: So if he plays, you know, you obviously got your
Speaker 4: hands full with the right receivers with Divine.
Speaker 3: We're going to have problems with any wide receivers.
Speaker 4: At this point, Devonte Smith.
Speaker 3: That's what we need.
Speaker 5: We need to come to that conclusion. We're going to
Speaker 5: have problems with any wide receivers. It's just a matter.
Speaker 5: That's why the coaches right now are extremely important. The
Speaker 5: game plan itself, how we choose to attack, how we
Speaker 5: choose to play, how many can we can we stop
Speaker 5: making all the mistakes in crucial situations. You know this
Speaker 5: is really coming down to how much control does the
Speaker 5: coach have over this team, and it's been that's been
Speaker 5: a problem all year so far.
Speaker 4: Well, assuming Dan the Bland's not playing, do they have
Speaker 4: to consider what they do with Jordan Lewis or I mean,
Speaker 4: I know what they do if it's three wide, but
Speaker 4: what if it's two wide. You're gonna put him out there?
Speaker 4: Are You're going to keep Kaitlyn Carson out there who
Speaker 4: does not seem to be playing with a lot of
Speaker 4: confidence right now, But he just got back after all
Speaker 4: that time off, and boy, they attacked him too, and
Speaker 4: right from the start.
Speaker 5: Well that's the way Kirk Cousins does. I saw the
Speaker 5: That was a Monday night game. I was sitting up
Speaker 5: there at the at Kevin Smith's place and we were
Speaker 5: watching the game. They would they attacked the cornerback that
Speaker 5: came in. I think it's one of the I think
Speaker 5: that's when they made a big deal about he's a
Speaker 5: white cornerback.
Speaker 3: They went at him right away. They went a m
Speaker 3: right away because he was white. Well he was. It
Speaker 3: was two things.
Speaker 5: He's a white cornerback and he and he just got
Speaker 5: in the game, and they just got in the game.
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, they heard the corner and they
Speaker 5: had to put him in. Kirk went right at him, right,
Speaker 5: and then that's when the next week, that's when I
Speaker 5: saw they made a big deal about it.
Speaker 3: You got two white cornerbacks in the NFL, right.
Speaker 4: Now, Well that's why the Cowboys went at that cornerback
Speaker 4: on the fake punton and it didn't turn out so well.
Speaker 5: Well, you went at him with a punter and a gunner,
Speaker 5: not the wide receiver at the cornerback.
Speaker 2: Okay, when we come back here on mixed shots, I
Speaker 2: know one of the white cornerbacks plays for the Eagles, Cooper. Okay,
Speaker 2: was it the philip must have been the Philadelphia game?
Speaker 6: All right, there it is?
Speaker 3: Remember that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, is there another white cornerback?
Speaker 3: I just y, I was just checking.
Speaker 2: It and I just looked on X it says it
Speaker 2: says Cooper de dejon is one of two white cornerbacks
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 3: I saw that.
Speaker 2: I'll have to answer to that trivia question the other
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Speaker 2: A answer to the trivia question.
Speaker 6: I got it right. In the break, I got it right.
Speaker 2: It's the Denver Broncos Riley Moss out of Iowa. He's
Speaker 2: a third round undraft pick last year.
Speaker 6: You asked me for his stats.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's actually playing, you know, fifty fifty six tackles
Speaker 2: this season for the Bronco.
Speaker 5: I thought I saw someone one of them with an intercession.
Speaker 5: I think it was him.
Speaker 3: Did he by the way, you said Iowa?
Speaker 4: He's from Purdue from he said Iowa.
Speaker 2: How come it says on ESPN dot com that he
Speaker 2: went to Iowa.
Speaker 3: I thought you said Purdue. I guess green notebook.
Speaker 4: No, you said Purdue.
Speaker 6: I said Purdue. In the break I corrected it there.
Speaker 10: So the big green notebook was the big.
Speaker 3: Green notebook was right.
Speaker 6: My memory was wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me, so, but
Speaker 2: that's why I have a big green notebook so I
Speaker 2: can remember they had the one came into the.
Speaker 6: League as a third round pick.
Speaker 3: On the same team, Chris, I mean Iowa didn't.
Speaker 10: Didn't the ghen came from Iowa as well.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 4: So yeah, two got about that both of the league.
Speaker 6: That's cool.
Speaker 4: About as many in the league as white running backs.
Speaker 3: That's not true.
Speaker 11: There was a point, well tail back, you know what, Mickey,
Speaker 11: I'm glad you brought that up, because there was a
Speaker 11: point we were losing white running backs in the league, right
Speaker 11: and then Rex Burkhead came into the league.
Speaker 2: Basically Burkhead came back in the league.
Speaker 3: It was shown about pet cat.
Speaker 10: That was that's his pet cat.
Speaker 4: Now he's proved starting, now he's retired.
Speaker 6: That's where I'm sold. Decade in the league.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he should have been a draft pick.
Speaker 3: Leave it to plan the represent baby, I'm living.
Speaker 4: I was talking about right now.
Speaker 6: One's injured.
Speaker 4: Well he's coming back though he started Precice McCaffrey, Eckler, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but McCaffrey is the man, Okay, So who else
Speaker 3: a brother brother? Maybe Italian? He is at the at
Speaker 3: the most Italian.
Speaker 6: I looked at you like, why wow.
Speaker 4: I was trying to come up with a second one.
Speaker 3: What we call light right down there, white come on,
Speaker 3: light what light right down there? White?
Speaker 4: Well see for me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have a few of those.
Speaker 4: Well who else?
Speaker 3: That's it, right, I don't see it.
Speaker 4: You don't see it.
Speaker 6: I don't see I like, I don't see the color.
Speaker 5: No, we don't do here we go everything right, my brother,
Speaker 5: we're in Texas.
Speaker 6: We see color.
Speaker 3: Yes, we do, Yes, we do.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's very good.
Speaker 5: I like that. But you still didn't tell me one
Speaker 5: of them has a ton of them. Yeah, I saw,
Speaker 5: I thought I saw one of them made a play
Speaker 5: of monsters.
Speaker 6: Moss has a pick.
Speaker 3: There you go, and they celebrate that, you know, like
Speaker 3: any other pick.
Speaker 5: But they remember them going with him to the end zone.
Speaker 3: And I said, oh man, my brother.
Speaker 4: Okay, so when I write the tease for our podcast,
Speaker 4: I think i'll leave out white quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: And running backs, by the way, right right, that's a
Speaker 3: good one.
Speaker 6: All right, moving on.
Speaker 10: You just saw one in Atlanta, by the way, white
Speaker 10: running backs. Algier, I'm telling you, I'm looking at right now.
Speaker 10: It's his top white running backs in the league. And
Speaker 10: Algier is number three.
Speaker 3: He's creole.
Speaker 5: Okay, he is not white, and and you're probably right,
Speaker 5: but I'm in my mind like, no, that's not right.
Speaker 6: He went to b YU, so.
Speaker 3: Got a bunch of brothers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicky, there's Austin Eckler for you.
Speaker 3: Then pull up.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm pull up Algier now.
Speaker 3: Now that's definitely a creole name.
Speaker 6: Uh Algier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a creole name.
Speaker 4: South Louisiana.
Speaker 5: All man I went to. I went to Gramdma. We
Speaker 5: had a lot of bite light bite, damn near white
Speaker 5: to Grandma.
Speaker 6: There you go, there's here, there's Algier.
Speaker 3: That's a brother. Man. Okay, that's a brother. See there,
Speaker 3: that's a brother. Laugh at him.
Speaker 5: Yeah now right now, yeah, being no article, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: Devil's advocate with Chris here.
Speaker 6: Okay, will we do that? Makey? What else do we
Speaker 6: need to know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: This is so important?
Speaker 6: Okay here.
Speaker 2: According to Wikipedia, Algier is a mixed black, white and
Speaker 2: Filipino descent.
Speaker 3: Once you say mixed, it's over there. You go.
Speaker 5: One drop weird guy in Miami, the coach, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he tried to pass.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, didn't try to pass.
Speaker 4: That's just like Dak gets credit for being a black quarterback.
Speaker 5: One drop is all it takes. That's that's that's it.
Speaker 5: That's what America said. We're just going by those those.
Speaker 3: Guidelines. No, so I was right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know brothers, man, I know, I know creoles too.
Speaker 5: That's yeah, that's creole.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 4: I'm looking to see what else Mike have to say.
Speaker 6: Did y'all talk about white cornerbacks?
Speaker 5: Now, he's gonna attack the white corner cornerback, going straight
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 3: That's the game plan. I'm sure that's the game plan.
Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna come out and attack the white cornerback.
Speaker 4: He apologized for throwing his iPad.
Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, I want to hear that.
Speaker 3: I don't apologize. Go ahead, I want to hear that.
Speaker 4: Well, here was the weird thing. He said it on
Speaker 4: the walk off yesterday or Monday, and he said it
Speaker 4: was kind of embarrassing and that's not good. No, then
Speaker 4: they asked him in the press conference about it, like
Speaker 4: the walk offs kind of inside information.
Speaker 2: I thought he'd be asked about it on Monday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he was after he was in the walk off,
Speaker 4: and then he was asked about it today and so
Speaker 4: he was like, I thought we already talked about okay,
Speaker 4: and then it was like he just went along with
Speaker 4: it and he said it was an embarrassing moment and
Speaker 4: that he's got to do a better job. He said,
Speaker 4: it was definitely a moment I'd like to take.
Speaker 2: I don't care about that part of it. What I
Speaker 2: want to know is what was mad about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, at what.
Speaker 2: We were trying to figure out is it was it
Speaker 2: the blocking they we can black a communication where they
Speaker 2: didn't walk that linebacker?
Speaker 6: Was it?
Speaker 2: Has Everson pointed out that if CD.
Speaker 4: Had could have just got you know, he he had
Speaker 4: mentioned that they had a communication problem on the third
Speaker 4: and one and I was trying to remember that was fourth,
Speaker 4: wasn't okay? That was the underground right, the fourth jet
Speaker 4: sweep was the fourth one?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the play in question.
Speaker 4: There was a third and one he mentioned, and that
Speaker 4: was the one they had too many people in the huddle?
Speaker 3: Yes, right, this that was later?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was later.
Speaker 3: So but if I'm him, I owned that. I would
Speaker 3: own that, right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, it's about you know, he looks too calm over there,
Speaker 5: he looks you know, he looks too forgiving, right, you know,
Speaker 5: that is the same one that they're too forgiving. You know,
Speaker 5: first of all that he's extremely hard in himself. I
Speaker 5: get that as a quarterback.
Speaker 4: But you know I liked I liked when somebody else
Speaker 4: screws up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially like dude. They said, enough of this.
Speaker 6: I tried.
Speaker 2: But for instance, what is the one moment on the
Speaker 2: sideline and that we still remember from Tom Landry's twenty
Speaker 2: nine year coaching career.
Speaker 12: Well, when he jumped up and down doing the Super
Speaker 12: Bowl Now, no, no Danny no, right, that was this
Speaker 12: was this was McCarthy, This was McCarthy's.
Speaker 6: And it was a fourth down play is fourth and one.
Speaker 2: Again, and Danny ran the play and no, Danny, no,
Speaker 2: this was McCarthy's no Danny, no moment.
Speaker 5: And I think that's what everybody liked about Jimmy. Jimmy
Speaker 5: was different in that regard because Tom was always all
Speaker 5: demure and put together.
Speaker 3: Jimmy was a Jimmy now is right?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: You see it right here?
Speaker 4: Well, I tried to inject levity into it because I said,
Speaker 4: at least you didn't punch the guy, right, remember Parcels
Speaker 4: when he punched.
Speaker 2: All right, we're all sitting here, We're all I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here assuming that on that tablet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's looking at the fourth down play. That's why
Speaker 6: you through the tablet.
Speaker 2: To your point and what he said in the press
Speaker 2: conference on the third and one play. The previous play
Speaker 2: was third and one and Rico got stopped by one
Speaker 2: for no gain, and Grady Jarrett made the play. And
Speaker 2: on my logsheet here I put in parentheses communication. It
Speaker 2: looked to me like there was a communication issue on
Speaker 2: the offensive.
Speaker 3: The linebacker came through the wrong way right.
Speaker 2: And so as I'm watching the game in real time,
Speaker 2: I wrote that out in the margin here. And so
Speaker 2: what you're saying is it was a third with one place.
Speaker 2: So I can't wait. I'm going to see McCarthy tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him as we take the show.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him, Okay, which play is it
Speaker 2: that you were upset about? And I bet it was
Speaker 2: the the third and one play and not the fourth
Speaker 2: n So.
Speaker 4: I wrote down third and one. It was the third
Speaker 4: and one play at the Atlanta forty forty three, and
Speaker 4: I wrote get and got beat by Grady Jarrett and
Speaker 4: he got hit in the backfield for no game.
Speaker 5: And that but but that, yeah, the left side of
Speaker 5: the line. And they said that, Uh, did they try
Speaker 5: to blame or it was a guard or try to blame.
Speaker 4: Or It was the next play on the fourth and
Speaker 4: one when they had eight guys in the box and
Speaker 4: they tried to end around and Ellis stopped him.
Speaker 6: No one blocked him. That's the CD play.
Speaker 4: That's the CD that's.
Speaker 5: The and we were wondering yesterday if it's designed for
Speaker 5: him not to be blocked.
Speaker 4: It was designed. You mentioned it that he cut it
Speaker 4: in he needed to go out.
Speaker 5: Well no, No, that was down the field when I
Speaker 5: thought CD could have broken it all the way.
Speaker 4: That you were talking about the end around.
Speaker 3: No, listen to me. The Jet sweep when we broke it.
Speaker 5: That was after we got stopped, and later on in
Speaker 5: the game we broke it and see these down the field.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that his decision down the field was wrong.
Speaker 5: He should have stayed outside when he tried to cut
Speaker 5: back inside.
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking when you were talking about
Speaker 2: that the other day. I thought you were talking about
Speaker 2: the fourth and one. No, you're talking about that point.
Speaker 3: The fourth and one play, which Olsen pointed out, was.
Speaker 5: It was a it was a linebacker and stood up
Speaker 5: so he could see the Jets sweep coming. When ceed
Speaker 5: broke the one later it was because and Olsen was
Speaker 5: like see this is what I told you. The guy
Speaker 5: was a defensive lineman and therefore he could not see
Speaker 5: it and it was successful.
Speaker 2: It was he was down in a three point stance
Speaker 2: or four point stands and the linebackers in a two
Speaker 2: point stance, and so was co.
Speaker 3: See it coming.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's according to Olson, and and the the video
Speaker 5: pretty much said that.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of like bad luck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that they by formation, they put the linebacker
Speaker 2: there and he.
Speaker 6: Had so I don't again gets back.
Speaker 2: To Greg Olsen's a great ANALYSTI how about how about
Speaker 2: I love this. Remember late in the game past a
Speaker 2: turpin and Turpin left his feet and Olsen immediately pointed
Speaker 2: out that you got to learn not.
Speaker 6: To because that's the pass.
Speaker 2: But know But what he said was that that gives
Speaker 2: you a foundation to be able to make that catch. Well,
Speaker 2: when you jump for the he doesn't need to jump
Speaker 2: for that ball, and you lose that foundation, and now
Speaker 2: the ball gets jarred loose.
Speaker 6: But that's and for a tight He makes that.
Speaker 2: Form a tight end, does that route all the time,
Speaker 2: and so he knows you're boxing out basically no doubt.
Speaker 4: So I told McCarthy, at least you didn't punch him,
Speaker 4: and I think it went by everybody's head because you
Speaker 4: remember when Parcells punched Todd Oh his dad was the
Speaker 4: big Haley. Todd Haley right, and he punched him on
Speaker 4: the sideline because he had real time told the coaches
Speaker 4: that quit yelling at the officials, I'll do the yelling
Speaker 4: at officials. And whatever happened, Todd Haley went after the official.
Speaker 6: And he turned around and he just pushed.
Speaker 4: He pushed him, but he threw up right. So the
Speaker 4: next day, of course, he had to answer about it,
Speaker 4: and he goes, Yeah, he goes my dad. My daughter
Speaker 4: called and said, uh, dad, we got to go back
Speaker 4: to anger management class.
Speaker 2: I want to know what McCarthy's mom said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, anger management class for someone from Jersey is Miami.
Speaker 3: We'll go to Florida. Man, Just chill, just chill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well I think we accomplished a lot on this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so many podcast white players. I had to send
Speaker 5: Chris straight.
Speaker 2: You welcome Chris, all right, and how about we do
Speaker 2: it again tomorrow at noon.
Speaker 3: We have different topics though
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