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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show one and all. That guy

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Speaker 3: out there is Dan Rubinstein. I am Ty hilden Brand.

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Speaker 3: It is a pleasure to be with.

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Speaker 1: You all as always, including you Dan. Yes, you two.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I started the day off early. It was

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Speaker 2: a productive morning. Tie. I got a sweat in on

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Speaker 2: the bike down here, which was nice, watch some deeply

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Speaker 2: nerdy videos about getting better at tennis, and just little

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I'm pretty happy with it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: cut open uh the loaf probably after we record here

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Speaker 2: for some lunch and uh. Look a successful morning so far, Tie,

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Speaker 3: Well, it is a pleasure to be back with you

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Speaker 3: are ever so inclined. On today's episode, though, we are

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Speaker 3: talking transfers, Dan. Indeed, transfers are sort of the name

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Speaker 3: of the game nowadays. It's really difficult at this point

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Speaker 3: in time, mid March, trying to go through these transfers

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Speaker 3: and figure out who is gonna pop and who isn't

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Speaker 3: gonna pop. There is nobody out there who knows that

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Speaker 3: for certain. But what we can do at this point

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Speaker 3: in the off season is adamittum. We can look at

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Speaker 3: the list of guys who transferred over from one place

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Speaker 3: So I put the call out to arverballer hood on

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Speaker 3: Patreon at forbawlers dot com. I got some suggestions from

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Speaker 3: the community which we can get into as we get

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Speaker 3: a little bit deeper into this. But you and I

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Speaker 3: have in effect picked transfer teams. So what that entails

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Speaker 3: is we have four guys on offense, four guys on defense.

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Speaker 3: You can only pick one quarterback per side, correct, because

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Speaker 3: you could fill up, you know, eight man rosters just

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Speaker 1: We didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that track with you? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's your intrigue sound.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good intrigue sound.

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Speaker 2: You don't want my roster construction that's pretty good too, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why don't you stick then with Caleb

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Speaker 1: But why Caleb Hawkins.

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Speaker 2: So there weren't a ton of headline running backs in

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Speaker 2: The right word is that, like the tech term when

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Speaker 3: Sure, I prefer hot swap, but you can go port

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Speaker 1: Uh settle.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Hawkins with one familiarity obviously is going to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean he averaged over six yards of carry, had

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Speaker 3: Six to two hundred he as he said, he's one

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Speaker 1: So I like that setup. That was also one of

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Speaker 2: Agree, positional dependent. This was one of you would make

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Speaker 2: his upside is obvious, especially if he's going to be

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Speaker 2: He looks really good. He like I definitely felt as

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Speaker 1: I like this week.

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Speaker 2: Look, he's going to look like he was always at

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Speaker 3: One final point on CAL before we can go to

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Speaker 1: Do that next.

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Speaker 1: A few of these squads.

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Speaker 3: So it's worth charting, especially if they come out hot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of the schedule, you're right, there's just

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Speaker 2: I I love that get for cal As just offensively,

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Speaker 3: and you can rely on somebody. It's a really nice

440
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: piece to have in the arsenal. I would love if

441
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: I were a Cal fan to know that I'm getting

442
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: a guy who go up and get fifty to fifty

443
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 3: balls sure Like. I feel like we've talked about that

444
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: so many times with respect to Clemson and how you

445
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 3: can almost draw a straight line between when Clemson stopped

446
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: getting guys like t Higgins and where they're at now,

447
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: which is the offense has gone downhill. They have lacked

448
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: for a while, the true fifty to fifty receiver who

449
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: can go up and get bald now Brian Westcoat, that's

450
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 3: kind of a different story this day and age. I mean,

451
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: they're still developing that side of things, and I do

452
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 3: like their receiver room. Not to make this about Clemson,

453
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: but there's definitely a correlation between not having those guys

454
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: and where Clemson's offense has been recently. So to bring

455
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: a guy like this in for young quarterback, I think

456
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool.

457
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: I agree.

458
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: All right, my turn place.

459
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: You want to talk receivers, Let's talk Omari and Miller

460
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 3: going to the desert, going to the desert from Colorado,

461
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 3: going to Arizona State. He produced really good numbers, I

462
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: think with dysfunction all around him at Colorado, and so

463
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: my question would be, if you can put him in

464
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: a situation at ASU where he doesn't have so much chaos,

465
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: there isn't so much turnover and so much that's changing

466
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: from week to week, what does that look like? Because

467
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: he's also one of these guys who can do a

468
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: lot six, two, two, ten. He's got, i believe, just

469
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: one season now to try and prove himself an NFL commodity.

470
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: And he's got an offensive mastermind in Kenny Dillingham who

471
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: can hopefully scheme him over.

472
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Speaker 1: You know.

473
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really exciting. So it's not just him either.

474
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: They were very active in the portal. They're very active

475
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: at receiver. We can talk about Cutter Bowl in a

476
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: little bit, not to give too much away.

477
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got Cutter on my list.

478
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 3: But this is another guy who's very good with contested catches.

479
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: All those metrics line up. This is another guy who's

480
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 3: got real good deep ball potential. I don't know if

481
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: he's necessarily a like for like replacement for Jordan Tyson,

482
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: who is going to the NFL and.

483
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: He's going to be, like, what, a top first round type.

484
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's easily going to be a first round guy.

485
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: But again, producing all that he did in a wildly

486
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: inconsistent offense like we saw at Colorado a year ago.

487
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: He had eight touchdowns over eight hundred yards, receiving eighteen

488
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: yards per reception. This is a guy who has produced

489
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at guys who have produced at their

490
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: previous stop to come to maybe a more stable setting

491
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: to maybe take off here in twenty twenty six. So

492
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: I like this move a lot for Kenny Dillingham, especially

493
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: given all the other new pieces that they got on

494
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: offense that this guy very much looks like wide receiver.

495
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: One.

496
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have Red Harris coming in from Boston College,

497
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: bigger body six or five, and so that'll take some

498
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: attention away. But yeah, Omarion Miller was able to produce

499
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: multiple quarterbacks at Colorado in situations that was seemed from

500
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: Afar to be a little bit dysfunctional at Colorado. As

501
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: you sort of noted, I imagine it's what Marcus Arroyo with

502
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham and then receivers coach hines Ward. Heines Ward, Yeah,

503
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: the single most famous receivers coach in the sport, for

504
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: whatever that's worth. But you talk about contested catches, you know,

505
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: as physical as it gets in you know, modern NFL

506
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: history in terms of a physical receiver. So should be

507
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: coached well continually. And ASU's schedule is tricky. I would

508
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: say a lot of tricky defenses on there that do

509
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: multiple things decently well in the Big twelve and they

510
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: get I believe A and M on the road in

511
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: week two, So offense is going to need to come

512
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: together pretty quickly. But Omaron Miller seems to be that

513
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: proven guy. We'll see if he has number one potential

514
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: and what it means if he is the number one

515
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: guy for ASU, if that's a good thing or not

516
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: so good thing. But I think it's a good addition

517
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: for a team that needed that pop outside.

518
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing that I like.

519
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: And I kind of allude to this, but he wasn't

520
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: the only receiver they went out and they got.

521
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: They also brought over Reed Harris. Yeah, I mentioned him,

522
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: yeap the h Yeah, the receiver from BC six five

523
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: two seventeen.

524
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: Not quite the same type of receiver. Definitely relies a

525
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 3: little bit more on his physicality to bring in balls.

526
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: I don't want to classify him as a possession receiver.

527
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: That's probably doing him a bit of a the service,

528
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: but more of a possession receiver. Yea.

529
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: And a guy like Miller, All right, give me your sound.

530
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Where are you going next?

531
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, I guess we'll say it's you. Well, this will

532
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: be like the pseudo West Coast portion. Actually We've got

533
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: a few West coasts, but I have Cutter Bowley.

534
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: Okay, he's your quarterback six five, two twenty.

535
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Yes, big dude at times a revelation for Kentucky last

536
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: year at times really struggled. Though I'm willing to write

537
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: off at least a portion of his struggles to just

538
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: playing for a Mark Stoops offense. Right, That's just it's

539
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: not a quarterback friendly place most of the time. Mark

540
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: Stoops also gone from Lexington, Kentucky now as well. Going

541
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: back and watching Cutter Bowlie, I was reminded why I

542
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: kind of liked him at times last year, that he's

543
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: got a really nice arm that got you know, the physicality,

544
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: is kind of unafraid to move and run like could

545
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: be a statue if he want, but has a good

546
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: enough bit of athleticism to make him a threat with

547
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: his legs. The stuff that I like about him is

548
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: he seems to have a pretty strong arm, Like he

549
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: can really slang it time.

550
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Right, he can really spin it as they say, you know,

551
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: we choose our verbs, how we choose our verbs.

552
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: I like his arm. I like his fearlessness downfield. A

553
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: lot of his yardage didn't come from little screens or

554
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: thrown behind the line of scrimmage. He was into challenging

555
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: teams down the field, especially over the middle of the field.

556
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: The only thing that I worry about, but I think

557
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: he'll be able to correct. He is there's a little

558
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: bit of casual address James Franklin to his game. Okay,

559
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: there's a little bit, and like, not the coach, the

560
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: old miss not the coach, the old Miszoo quarterback that

561
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: he's just sort of it seems like a half a second,

562
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: not behind, but half a second to chill. At times

563
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: we're like, where's the suddenness to his game as he's

564
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: throwing into the Georgia defense of the Tennessee defense or

565
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: the South Carolina d whatever it is that there is

566
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: sort of the chillness to his game. I think could

567
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: be hurried up a little bit, and I think it

568
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: will be. But the best of him, which was not

569
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 2: on display against Louisville and the season last year. The

570
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: best of him, I think is aggressive and interesting, and

571
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: I think he'll be developed really well at ASU. I

572
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: thought it was a savvy pick because you can see

573
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: the raw material there and he has the game reps,

574
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: and I think by and large the defenses that he's

575
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: playing against. Even though I think there's a lot of

576
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: quality on this schedule in terms of defenses, I think

577
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: the NFL upside of the edge rushers or the secondaries

578
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: isn't quite where it was in the SEC. And I

579
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: think he has an opportunity to thrive here.

580
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: There is something that you're not mentioning. Please, there is

581
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: a connection here to me, I guess, sort of to you. Okay,

582
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham offered this guy when he was still offensive

583
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: coordinator at Oregon.

584
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: I believe, Oh Diddy, I believe so. I believe that's right.

585
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: Okay. Quarterback offers are always weird though, because they're kind

586
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: of domino offerers. We're like, well, we got to see

587
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: we're offering you, but we want to see you throw,

588
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: and we're offering you. But if this guy commits, it's

589
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: not necessarily a committable offer for you. Sure, but he

590
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: certainly thought enough of him. I guess.

591
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: I believe that's accurate, and if it's not, somebody can

592
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: yell at me, but I'll look it up. Continue if

593
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: in fact that.

594
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: Is true, and there is some sort of personal investment

595
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: from Kenny Dillingham to go out and get this guy.

596
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: That's I think an important signal.

597
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, offers from Alabama, from Auburn, Florida state, like was

598
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: a for a I guess, composite four star quarterback, had

599
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: a good amount of.

600
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: Offers, twelve interceptions, a little bit of a concern for sure,

601
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: but completely new system, and we just talked through what

602
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: they're doing at the receiver position as well. Kenny Dillingham's

603
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: system I think has worked out famously well for other

604
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks who have stepped into it. So in theory, it's

605
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: a nice fit for Cutter Buwllie, I would say, compared

606
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: to some of the other names that were kicked around

607
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: when the portal was still spinning, Cutter buwlly definitely is

608
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: not as exciting as like Sam Levitt, not as excited

609
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: as like Dylan Royola. It's it does not have like

610
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: let's say, superstar name brand recognition among our listening base.

611
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: But this could be something that works out really well.

612
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: He's a big kid. They're obviously trying to surround him

613
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: and reinvigorate that offense with some talent from other places.

614
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. Okay, fair enough, let's stick

615
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: with quarterback, Okay, So.

616
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: Mine is Aaron Filo. Okay, continue, I did not get

617
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: this one at all. So consider the context at Florida.

618
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: You fire Billy Napier. You had a guy in DJ Lagway,

619
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: who frankly I had talked up for the last two

620
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: years as being a Florida guy through and through. You

621
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: remember that, remember me talking that talking that way about him?

622
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: Eyes.

623
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: This guy's never going to leave, He'll never leave. He

624
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: loves Florida. He's helping recruit guys to Florida. He's never leave.

625
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: He left, did you?

626
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: Laguay went to Baylor. We can maybe talk about DJ

627
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: in a little bit if we want to. But it

628
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: was surprising to me that there weren't bigger names lined

629
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: up for this role, and instead they go out to

630
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: get Aaron Filo, who was the backup to Haines King

631
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: at Georgia Tech. Now it's notable for a couple of reasons.

632
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 3: First and foremost, there is a connection between Aaron Filo

633
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: and the new offensive coordinator at Florida, who's going to

634
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: be Buster Faulkner, who was previously as offensive coordinator at

635
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. So it was a two for one special, right,

636
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: You get two guys from Georgia Tech coming down hopefully

637
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: trying to reinvigorate this Gators offense, which actually wasn't horrible

638
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: last year, but new names. He is a big quarterback

639
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: six two two twenty. He's got a couple of years

640
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: left of eligibility. And I'm always interested in these almost

641
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: like moneyball style pickups in this age and the transfer portal.

642
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: They did not go out after the highest priced name,

643
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: like two million dollars.

644
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Whatever he's getting.

645
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: It is not nearly the top of the market. And

646
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because he already knows the playbook,

647
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: already knows the playbook got a very limited sample size

648
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: on what this guy can do. But across the board,

649
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: the scouting report seems to be an accurate passer for

650
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: short and intermedia throws. Working a little bit on the

651
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: deep ball still, but at least given what Bustern Faulkner

652
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: likes to do, the terminology, the route concepts, the play

653
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: but all of that stuff, there's a familiarity there, and

654
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: this is one of the common threads that we are

655
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: seeing more and more of in this stage of the

656
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: transfer portal. If it's not a head coach bringing his guys,

657
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: it's a coordinator trying to bring his guys so that

658
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: you can hit the ground running and get started right away.

659
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: So you lose DJ lagway, you decide you're not going

660
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: to get into bidding wars for some of the higher

661
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: price names. Instead, you're going to bring down Aaron Filo,

662
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: who's already got a familiar with the system, and I

663
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: think it's an offense around him that has a lot

664
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: of really interesting pieces. Like I was real close to

665
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: putting Eric Singleton Junior on my show.

666
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, speaking of Buster Faulkner experience.

667
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

668
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: So like there are a lot of interesting pieces that

669
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: have been added to this offense. And I just feel like,

670
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: and I've said it a couple times over now as

671
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: a whole people are sleeping on Florida because this is

672
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: still a really good roster. This is a team that

673
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: is very much going to fly under the radar given

674
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: all the turmoil and changes of the last year now.

675
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: And I really like what they've got on hand. So

676
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: provided he's not a total disaster, and I don't think

677
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: he will be, I recognize there's probably going to be

678
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: a bit of a learning curve, and we have a

679
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: very limited sample size, I mean one hundred and two

680
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: career pass attempts. But there have been glimpses of what

681
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: this guy can do. Given the fact that there's going

682
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: to be a reunion now with Buster Faulkner, that's really

683
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: exciting to me.

684
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: And it's, by the way, not just Eric Singleton, it's

685
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: Brenelle Brown and Dallas Wilson and Dallas Wilson, so Aaron

686
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: Filo if he is good, even if it's on short

687
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: intermediate passes and he's working on the deep ball even more,

688
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: the opportunities should be there, right, you are not threading

689
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: balls to so so receivers. It seems from my vantage

690
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: point that there should be opportunities. There's more and more

691
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: I think Georgia Tech guys that have come over, so

692
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: there's familiarity along like offensive line and tight end transfers

693
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 2: as well. So hopefully to your point, the learning curve

694
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: isn't too steep. But he's never been undoubtedly the guy no,

695
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: and he's going to start for Florida.

696
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: Right, that's one hundred percent. But again, there are reasons

697
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: here to think that this is going to work out

698
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: better than maybe a lot of people would expect. When

699
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: you see the name Aaron Filo, who again is not

700
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: a headliner. But this is an offensive system that demands accuracy,

701
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: at least on the short to intermediate throws. You gotta

702
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: process very quick post snap. You got to get the

703
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: ball out to playmakers in space, and they've got a

704
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: bunch of those on this roster. So it, at least

705
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: in theory, this could end up being the steel of

706
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: the portal class.

707
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Agree. Inside of the line transfers, there's you know, they're

708
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: counting on a lot in terms of I think left tackle, center,

709
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: and right guard slotted right now as new transfer starters.

710
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: I think there's one or two of them from Georgia

711
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: Tech itself, so he'll need the time. But no, I

712
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: think you're right in terms of looking at this as

713
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: one of the more intriguing transfers for sure.

714
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: All right, give me your sound roster construction.

715
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why I did that came out.

716
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: What do you got?

717
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: I'll use my final offensive option here, and that's JJ

718
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: Buchanan at Michigan.

719
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: All right, So from Utah to Michigan.

720
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: M he's good, man. I don't know what to tell you.

721
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: He's really good, and I think because he is sort

722
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: of either a big receiver, small tight end. He was

723
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: a true freshman I believe last year from Nevada didn't

724
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: have a ton of huge offers.

725
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: Recruited as a tight end.

726
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Recruited as a tight end, I would say, kind of

727
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: hybrid and then fell more is into like a receiver

728
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: role by the end of the year for Utah. So

729
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: whatever he is, I think he has the opportunity to

730
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: be like a like a rich man's safety blanket. Like

731
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: he's not just a guy who's going to sit in

732
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: his own and get nine yards on third and seven.

733
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: He can go downfield. He was able to do so

734
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: for a Utah passing attack, which, while much improved, that's

735
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: not why Utah was winning games and scoring points that

736
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: they were shredding teams down the field all the time.

737
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: They had a great rushing attack. I think it will

738
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: prepare him. I think his experience in Jason Beck's system.

739
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: I think the idea of receiving passes from hopefully the

740
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: best of Bryce Underwood in a new receiving corps for

741
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: Michigan or whatever whatever we're gonna you know, label him as.

742
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: I think he has the opportunity to be an enormous

743
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: piece for a hopefully improved Michigan offense, because by the

744
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: end of last season, he was a major weapon for

745
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: Utah and a major loss for the youths. If you

746
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: you know poll Utah fans, I'm sure you'll get a

747
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: bunch of different answers because there were a bunch of

748
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: impact dudes that they ended up losing with Kyle Whittingham

749
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: leaving JJ Buchanan as a freshman flashing. What he was

750
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: able to do I think was probably from what I

751
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: could tell, particularly disappointing for Utah fans, which you know

752
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: can only be a good sign when your previous fan

753
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: base is super bummed to lose a dude, and now

754
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: he's entering into a situation where you know they have

755
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: Michigan has, you know, the the upside, the obvious upside

756
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: of Andrew Marsho had a great freshman year last year.

757
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: But in terms of building out the depth of that

758
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: room and the options for Bryce Underwood, it's looking like,

759
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: especially with all the offensive line coming back that are

760
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: coming back that you know, played with the portal a

761
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: little bit when the coaching change was announced.

762
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I think J. J.

763
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: Buchanan has the opportunity to be a major part of

764
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: a much improved Michigan offense.

765
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: You know, these guys who are sort of tight ends

766
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: have kind of broken football as we know it.

767
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: Position lists in a good way. Yeah, position listen.

768
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: A good way.

769
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: We have seen these guys thrive because there's just you

770
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: can use them and you can exploit matchups in a

771
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: way you can't with other players recruited out of high school.

772
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: As a tight end, he's six three, two twenty five

773
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty nine snaps in the slot, two

774
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty four snaps out wide, only ten as

775
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: a true in line title line. Yeahah, so you can

776
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: see how they used him. He still could kind of

777
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: go either way, Like he needs to get better as

778
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: a blocker, but if he adds fifteen pounds you can

779
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: move him back. This is a true tight end. If

780
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: you don't want to do that, you can keep playing

781
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: in him out wide. He thrived in that role as well.

782
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: So there's some versatility here that they have to work with.

783
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: And as you said, given what is returning with the

784
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: likes of a guy like and Andrew marsh having a

785
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: guy like this so you can move around the field

786
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: and uses a safety blanket and a bunch of different

787
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: roles is really exciting, really exciting. He does not have,

788
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: at least from my vantage point, a tried and true

789
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: positional identity at this stage. So a guy like a

790
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: Jason Beck who's obviously on the rise as an offensive

791
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: coordinator just a football mind, you can do a lot

792
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: with that, especially at your new stop. And again, this

793
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: is another situation where you've got a guy following his

794
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: coaching staff, following his coaching staff to ann Arbor. So

795
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: hopefully there's a familiarity there as well.

796
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: I like it.

797
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: I like all of these, that's why they're on the list.

798
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: But this is another guy that I had jotted down

799
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: as like, there's there's some real interest here in seeing

800
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: what kind of chemistry develops between I mean, Bryce Underwood

801
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: and if it can help lift that offense.

802
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of a smaller slot receiver who is running

803
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: drag routes or you know, tunnel screens and taking advantage

804
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: of being smaller, he's a thick slot he is, and

805
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: he he's another one of these contested catch guys. Yeah,

806
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: you'll be surprised to hear a multi sport athlete in

807
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: high school was doing like three sixty dunks. I saw

808
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: uh so, like, all these guys are freaking athletes, but

809
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: just to have a weapon like that, a true hybrid

810
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: in a sense, that's that's really important.

811
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: I think when you're starting over at a place.

812
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: Did anybody say that about you?

813
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: What?

814
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: Like?

815
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: Oh, Ty held him right? You should have seen him

816
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: in high school, absolute freak, multi sports star, table tennis, yeah,

817
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: Chinese checkers, yeah.

818
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: Sick scrimmage yeah.

819
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. What is scholastics because I like academic to cathlon

820
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: it was.

821
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know. I think everybody's got

822
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: their own version of it.

823
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

824
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: I was on the team with a couple friends. Yeah,

825
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: And I was never on the A team. It was

826
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: one of those things that you signed up for because

827
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: you could put it on a college transcript. Sure, And

828
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: so I was really only around for the sports questions.

829
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: This is not to imply I was a dummy.

830
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't.

831
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: But my true like Jackpot Zone, was when Zone I

832
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: just made that up with sports questions and they never

833
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: asked him.

834
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, I want to come up with the roster

835
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: of Ty hilden Brandt multi sport Tie hilda Brandt.

836
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: I was recruiting team. I was recruited to wrestle. I

837
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: was recruited to play golf. I was recruited by the

838
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: coach to like run cross country or track. I was

839
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: recruited to play soccer. I told you I was. I

840
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: was recruited to do both ice and roller speed skating.

841
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: So I had a bunch of offers that were on

842
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 3: the table.

843
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: Why didn't you accept any?

844
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: In the I probably should have played something else, But

845
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: in the end, you're just.

846
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: Like all all first team making out.

847
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: Ty.

848
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I was very much in demand.

849
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: No, I'm asking you if if the ladies were like, no, Ty,

850
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: we can't have you speed skating. We need to get

851
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: get it behind the gym frenchhen.

852
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: There would have been plenty of time for me to

853
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: focus on any of those sports. Okay, any of those sports. Okay,

854
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: I chose baseball.

855
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: I probably should have picked another one, but no, Baseball's fun.

856
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Fixing my chair here, Okay.

857
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: I'll do my last one here. On offense.

858
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: Okay, my last one here on offense is a tight

859
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: end and that's Ben Bromer.

860
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: Hmm, good pick.

861
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 3: Come in with Matt Campbell, two Penn State from Iowa State.

862
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: This is an offense that's gonna build a lot around

863
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 3: tight ends. I'm gonna see some two tight end sets.

864
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: So they went out. They got the top by some measure,

865
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: the top tight end in the portal class.

866
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: He knows the.

867
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: Playbook, he knows the system. The system is going to

868
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: run a lot based on what he can do. So

869
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of familiarity, not just with Campbell, but

870
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: with Taylor Mauser, who has something of a track record

871
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: for developing tight ends.

872
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: This is a slam.

873
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: Dunk in my view, as a Sam dunk six seven,

874
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: two fifty five. He's a big kid, he was really

875
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: good last year. There is zero learning curve. He's going

876
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: to be able to hit the ground running with a

877
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: quarterback that also came over from Ames and rock obecked.

878
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: So I don't know what else to say about this one.

879
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: It if there is such thing as a slam dunk

880
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: in the transfer portal, a guy like a Brahmer is

881
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: is absolutely it And if it works to the extent

882
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: that I think it will, hopefully that helps unlock a

883
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: the running game and then be some of the downfield

884
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: passing threats which Penn State needs to get better at.

885
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: There's just no two ways about that. He can help

886
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: with all of those things. He is the engine that's

887
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: going to make this thing go.

888
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: Are any of because Penn the state's tight end room

889
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: was especially robust.

890
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: Well it was, and they lost Luke Reynolds who went

891
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: with James Franklin down in Virginia Tech. That was Andrew

892
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: Olish who went out to Oregon was their big five

893
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: star in the previous recruiting class. But there's still enough

894
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: I think in the cupboard they'll be fine ultimately, and

895
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: especially now that they bring this guy over from Iowa State.

896
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: It's a pretty big.

897
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: Deal because the obvious maybe you wouldn't know better than

898
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: I but you're gonna run two tight end sets, especially

899
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: if the receiving corps does not look super and obviously explosive.

900
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, what is it Iowa State guys

901
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: coming over? Who's playing receiver for Penn State this year?

902
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've got two guys that come over

903
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: from Iowa State.

904
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: Yep.

905
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: I know everybody was really excited and wanted to see

906
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: more out of Kobe Howard last year, and James Franklin,

907
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: for whatever.

908
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: He's still there.

909
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: Didn't really go there with it, but yes, he's still there.

910
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: I think we'll see a little bit more out of him.

911
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: So it's just it is a lot of Iowa State

912
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: and as we talked about on the previous episode, functionally

913
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: it's an Iowa State team with Penn State Penn State

914
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: guys sort of filling in the gaps. But uh, I

915
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: think this is someone who's gonna step in hit the

916
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: ground running. Just being so, it's basically the offense that

917
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: he played with a year ago.

918
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: Were you also recruited to play slot receiver for Penn

919
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: State this past I was not speed skating.

920
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: I was.

921
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: I did make it to the Penn State Intramural co

922
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: Ed semi finals playing quarterback for a co ed team

923
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: and a little bit of slot receiver.

924
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: How'd you do?

925
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: Made it to the semifinals? Okay, I don't know a

926
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: lot of competition. Yeah, okay, listen, I'm an athlete, Dan.

927
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: You know this about can't raise your hands above your shoulders?

928
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: Why I'm podcasting these That's true?

929
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: All right?

930
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Continue?

931
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Uh that's all I have to say about him.

932
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: That's a slack Okay, give me yours play player sound

933
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: and let's go to defense.

934
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: Let's do some defense.

935
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: Ty.

936
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: My first name is We're gonna go Damon Wilson just

937
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: because he's arguably the biggest name MIAMU on the the

938
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: defensive portal list. Look, he's on the edge. He was

939
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: at Georgia and last year he was at Missoo. There

940
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: was some consternation about his deal at Miszoo and will

941
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: there be a hold up in him leaving because of

942
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: certain promises or I guess Georgia to Missoo. That's where

943
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: the sort of roadblock was. But he's now at Miami

944
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: and he's now taking over. All he has to do

945
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: is be kind of as good, and he looks to

946
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: be kind of as good. I don't know if he

947
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: has the same size necessarily I can look that up,

948
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: but as a key Mesidor and Ruby Bain.

949
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: Four two fifty, So he's got size.

950
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: I don't remember if it's the same or not, but

951
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be it's not going to be an issue.

952
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: No, he's got size. He should be very good.

953
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

954
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: Ruben Bain checked in by the way six two two

955
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: sixty three, and earlier on he was more in the

956
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: two seventies, so a larger guy at defensive end edge

957
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: than Damon Wilson. But Wilson is lightning off of the

958
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: edge and this was a very good Miszoo defense, a

959
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: very good Miszoo front, and he should step in, and

960
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: there are guys obviously rotation guys who are going to

961
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: step in be terrific alongside him. For what Miami will

962
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: continue to do really well on defense, Having those edges

963
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: was paramount and getting the best edge in the portal.

964
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: And Damon Wilson, who like this is just cherry on

965
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 2: top of a career right, showed promise that Georgia came

966
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: through for Miszoo was a menace for the Tigers last

967
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: year and should continue to be a problem for everybody

968
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: on this ACC schedule and beyond for Miami. And the

969
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: schedule's pretty great for Miami. And Damon Wilson, I would say,

970
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: is already a star and will shine for the U.

971
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: So now, unlike some of our other earlier picks, he

972
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: is not a semi savior because he is just looking

973
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: to basically replicate the dominance of the guys coming off

974
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: the edge last year. But I don't know in terms

975
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: of name recognition and guys affecting games with their gravity,

976
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: Damon Wilson's that guy from Miami.

977
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not like the edge setter when it comes

978
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: to playing the run right. No, his strength is very

979
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: much rushing the passer. But I don't think they're gonna

980
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: ask him to be a run stopper now. They're gonna

981
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: ask him to play downhill the way Corey Heatherman likes

982
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: and get after the passer. One question I had for

983
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 3: you on this one though, third school in three years.

984
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: Does that bother you? Not?

985
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Not when you're this good. I don't know, because I

986
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: know that gives you the he b GVS. Sometimes when

987
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: we talk these three guys who jump in does frequently.

988
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: Quarterback, it gives it to me that on edge, like

989
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: he was a rotation guy at Georgia, he was the

990
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: guy at Miszoo. Maybe he just didn't like being at Missoo.

991
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: It's not my favorite thing. I would much rather him

992
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: move on to the NFL as a Missoo legend or

993
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: something like that, or a Georgia legend. It's always better

994
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: to me when a player has like a clear developmental

995
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: arc at the same place. But I don't know. Man,

996
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: At a certain point, if Miami's writing stupid checks, you'd

997
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: be stupid not to take them. And I don't know

998
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: the exact circumstance of why it didn't work out for

999
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: him either financially or athletically at Miszoo. But this one,

1000
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: you watch him play. If he's not a horrible dude

1001
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: in the locker room, I don't know, man via condios.

1002
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: Via condio, Sorry, my turn.

1003
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: Slipping over the defensive side of the ball. You're talking

1004
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: about edge. Let's talk about my guy, Chas Manicats. Please,

1005
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: that's what I'm gonna call him, Chaz Coleman going from

1006
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: Penn State to Tennessee. I purposely tried to stay away

1007
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: from some of the five stars. What do you say,

1008
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 3: man of Cats, Chas Manicats?

1009
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: Why Manacat.

1010
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: It's a long story. It's sort of an inside joke

1011
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 3: with me and some pen staters.

1012
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: You're giving him a nickname that you refuse to explain

1013
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: inside story to nobody listening. That's right, Okay, good decision.

1014
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: Chas Man.

1015
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: You know what we love Chazz on this show, All

1016
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: things Chazz, of course. But Chas Coleman aka Chas Manicats

1017
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: going to Tennessee is going to play with Jim Knowles again.

1018
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: So he's from Ohio. There was talk after the firing

1019
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 3: of James Franklin that he was going to go back

1020
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: to Ohio State, but he decides he's going to go

1021
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: to Tennessee instead. He's a freak. He was a true

1022
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: freshman a year ago. Doesn't have a whole lot of

1023
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: production to lean back on, but again, was a true freshman.

1024
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 3: Everything is there. Everyone wanted this guy. I think LSU

1025
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: was after him as well. Everybody wanted Chas Coleman because

1026
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: of what he profiles to be, which is the next

1027
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: star edge rusher. We know there's a bit of a

1028
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: pipeline for that right now at Tennessee. There has been

1029
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. They've been pretty good

1030
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: at putting guys in the NFL. Chas Coleman could be

1031
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: the next one of those.

1032
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: And it was definitely going to be the next one

1033
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: of those at Penn State when you look at dds

1034
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: and Abdul Carter and everybody one percent who came before him.

1035
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1036
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: And among the guys that we are listing off here,

1037
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: he might be the most physically gifted.

1038
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: He's just a freak.

1039
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna be if I don't know if he's already

1040
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: on Bruce Feldman's freaks list, he will be on that

1041
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: list before long.

1042
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: So the fact that.

1043
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: You're putting him in a scheme again, following a coordinator

1044
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: to his next stop in Jim Knowles. Jim Knowles was

1045
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: all about Chaz Coleman almost from the jump, from the

1046
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: second he got to State College and started coaching these

1047
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: guys up. He was talking about Chas Coleman. Penn Staters

1048
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: were excited about Chas Coleman. I was freaked out to

1049
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: lose Chaz Coleman as a Penn Stater myself, But it

1050
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: seems as though this is another one of those situations

1051
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: that's just ready made for him to step in and explode.

1052
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see what this looks like. I'm

1053
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: excited to see what he looks like now with hopefully

1054
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: a little bit more playing time to kind of take

1055
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 3: front State Center.

1056
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: Agree, I uh, yeah, I don't have anything to add

1057
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: to it except for Tennessee's defense was kind of a

1058
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: disaster last year, and a lot of that had to

1059
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: do with injuries and maybe some transfers not working out.

1060
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: But this is a team that has recruited well enough,

1061
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: and if you are adding that type of game changer

1062
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: on the edge, it spells, you know, gravitational advantage for

1063
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: everybody around him, whether it's guys on the interior line,

1064
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: whether it's an offense changing, it's the way that it

1065
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: operates because of Chas Coleman.

1066
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: He's just he has all the moves. He has all

1067
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: the moves. He's got to think they schal tools. He

1068
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: could drop in a coverage if you need him to

1069
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: play cut like. He can do it all. And I

1070
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: think this is a really exciting fit for Tennessee. So

1071
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: great see what you can do in the SEC players sound.

1072
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: Who we got Devin Tompkins. This one's super interesting to

1073
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: me because I think he was a little bit out

1074
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: of position at USC. Came in as a basketball player

1075
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: like six', five two hundred or two twenty or something like,

1076
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: that ended up playing closer to three hundred pounds this

1077
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: past year and playing on the inside a whole. LOT

1078
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: i think he's best served playing as like a really

1079
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: big edge or three to five technique or something like

1080
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: that in the right. System is When, alabama who very

1081
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 2: much is overhauling, things not overhauling necessarily because they have

1082
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: a bunch of rotation guys back from last, year but

1083
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: in terms of the star power in that front, seven

1084
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: a lot of new names in, face especially in the linebacking,

1085
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: corps so all the more reason to attack and find

1086
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: bigger dudes on the defensive. Line they bring Over Devin

1087
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: tompkins FROM Usc Terrence, green who was a literally large

1088
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: rotation piece for This oregon defensive line last. Season so

1089
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: As alabama looks to get back to the, playoff get

1090
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: back to you, know a top ten twelve type, defense

1091
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: somebody Like Devin, tompkins who at his best can be quite, disruptive,

1092
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: penetrating you, know just collapsing. Lanes, AGAIN i DON'T i

1093
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't count on him to sort of hold the point

1094
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: of attack type large defensive, lineman but obvious passing downs

1095
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: and potential. MISMATCHES i think he is quite necessarily especially

1096
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: when you look at like Who alabama may have been

1097
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: counting on to come back and left the. PROGRAM i

1098
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: Think Devin tompkins should have an opportunity to make a

1099
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: ton of plays for This alabama defense upfront and when

1100
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: WHEN i think used correctly AT usc was a huge

1101
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: weapon for The trojans and another guy THAT i THINK

1102
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: usc fans were sad to, lose especially when he was

1103
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 2: playing in the right.

1104
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: Spot he gives them a little bit of versatility in

1105
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: the interior defensive.

1106
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Line as he pointed out, right came in as the edge.

1107
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: PROSPECT i think is better playing closer to the edge

1108
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: than playing inside.

1109
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: Though, yeah kind of like a heavy end yes style.

1110
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: Player you're. RIGHT i mean they Lose Tim, keenan they

1111
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: lose Lt Overton Kean keeley. Transfer they needed help all

1112
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 3: on the, line and so this is a dude who

1113
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: could come in and they can kind of use him

1114
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: as like a little bit of a chess piece up.

1115
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: Front you, know how do you want to play? Him

1116
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: he gives them a little bit of versatility in the

1117
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: way that they can deploy, him and, frankly it's somebody

1118
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: that they needed to get to try and helple on

1119
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: that defensive. Front so you like these guys who were

1120
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: former basketball, players if you like their former basketball.

1121
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: Players but the, buzz.

1122
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: At least in the early going now spring practice From Kane,

1123
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 3: wamick has been glowing About. Tompkins so if that's to be,

1124
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: BELIEVED i think there's a lot to like. Here you

1125
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: could see some really nice production out of him on

1126
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: that defensive.

1127
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: Front next, Next i'm going to shift my gaze to. Linebacker,

1128
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: Oh i'm about to as.

1129
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: Well, Continue let's.

1130
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: Talk about my, Guy Austin, ROMAINE, Ah Kansas state, Legend

1131
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 3: Kansas state.

1132
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Legend what was my? Thing you'll you'll only run on

1133
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: us if we let. US i don't. KNOW i had

1134
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: a Dumb lettuce joked it related to his. NAME i remember.

1135
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: You i'm not proud of, That.

1136
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: OKAY i can only assume he's moving on To Texas

1137
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: tech in this.

1138
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 3: Region he is going To Texas. Tech K state The Texas.

1139
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: Tech one final note on The lettuce. JOKE i BELIEVE

1140
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: i got a note from our Friend John kurtz who

1141
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: loved The lettus.

1142
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 2: Joke Soot John.

1143
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: Kurtz but, yeah at least there's. One Look Austin romain

1144
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: before he got. Hurt before he had the hand, injury

1145
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: missed a couple of games at the end of the

1146
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: season and opted for. Surgery he remained one of those

1147
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: mainstays on The Kansas state. Team he has been crazy

1148
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: productive and somebody who figures to slide right in. It

1149
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 3: maybe not replace like for like What Texas tech is

1150
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: losing at linebacker with J, rod but definitely somebody they

1151
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 3: compare next To Ben. Roberts somebody they compare next to

1152
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: the others that they brought in on that defense and

1153
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: be pretty much immediately a standard. Out so to kind

1154
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: of lose a guy Like Jay rod and bring this

1155
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: guy in is crazy to. Me What i'm interested to

1156
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: see is how Shield wood uses, him, right BECAUSE i

1157
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: think they're going to use him a little bit differently

1158
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: than he was used at K. State they're going to

1159
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: move him around a little bit. More Sheil wood believes

1160
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: in this system where he's trying to teach all the

1161
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: linebackers everything they need to know about all the linebacker.

1162
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: Positions we saw that a little bit last. Year it

1163
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: worked to great, effect. RIGHT i mean how good they

1164
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: were on defense is sort of proof. Enough so this

1165
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: is a high production, guy a long track record for

1166
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: being very productive provided the hand heels. Up provided the

1167
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: hand heels, up there aren't any lingering issues that type of.

1168
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: Thing this is one of those guys who's going to

1169
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: step into and almost immediately be one.

1170
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: Of the best linebackers in the, conference if not the. Country.

1171
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah he's.

1172
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Good he's really. Good.

1173
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah and he's and he's not going to be the

1174
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: focal point because there is to be so much good

1175
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: on This Texas tech especially up. Front they seem to

1176
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: have replaced a good amount of the production that they,

1177
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: lose which is tough when you look at you know.

1178
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: What you, Know David bailey was on the edge And

1179
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: Jacob rodriguez at. Linebacker BUT i don't. KNOW i think

1180
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to run pretty.

1181
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: Fuch just one of these guys that you hear it

1182
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: often at the linebacker, position the quarterback of the. Defense

1183
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: he's he's that type of, leader and he's really good

1184
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: at stopping the, run really good at like recognizing the

1185
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: running game almost the second it it goes. Down So

1186
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm i'm pretty excited to see what the guy looks.

1187
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: Like so the instant, impact hope is he is nearly

1188
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: as good as the guy he's. Replacing you would.

1189
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: Take that Because Jay rod was A heisman finalist.

1190
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: There, yeah he's. Everywhere, Yeah so, okay where are we?

1191
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: Going next? Player, Sold.

1192
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna go To. SAMMY i HOPE i get this.

1193
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: Right But sammy almost see, almost sigo almost seek.

1194
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: Almost i'm just gonna sit here and let you. Try.

1195
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: SAMMY i practiced. IT i look up a really good

1196
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: rotation inside linebacker For oklahoma last. Year, OBVIOUSLY i don't

1197
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: even know if the Owen heinike saga is. COMPLETE i

1198
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: think he's still trying to play while also training for

1199
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: THE Nfl. Draft, okay But oklahoma's got a bunch of

1200
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: good inside linebackers and it looks LIKE ucla is his

1201
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: path to starting really really good as a rotation dude

1202
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: and has an opportunity AT, ucla who brought in seven

1203
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: hundred and forty four new players Under Bob chesney to

1204
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: hopefully improve. Things but you look at What James madison

1205
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: was able to. DO i think it Was Trent hendrick

1206
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: was An All Sun belt linebacker and was everywhere for THAT,

1207
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: jmu like an, outstanding OUTSTANDING jmu, defense great against the.

1208
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: Run That sammy could be the heartbeat of a much

1209
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: IMPROVED ucla. Defense he will have every. Opportunity, look it's

1210
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: basically an entirely new defense via the. Portal and when

1211
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: you watch him, Play i'll just keep calling Him. Sammy

1212
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: when you Watch sammy play and the plays he made

1213
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 2: For oklahoma and they rotated their linebackers a bunch last.

1214
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: Year he was not loading up on stats Against temple

1215
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Or Eastern michigan or. SOMETHING i don't even know if

1216
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: they Played Eastern, michigan but they definitely Played. Temple but

1217
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: he was making plays Against. Michigan he was making plays

1218
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: Against Ole miss In South. Carolina like take your pick

1219
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: from This oklahoma, schedule and there's a burst to him

1220
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: both rushing the passer and being patient and looking at

1221
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: where plays are developing too THAT i think he just

1222
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: immediately makes the middle of THIS ucla defense high. Quality

1223
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: it's not a game changer in that he is another

1224
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: piece on a stacked defense like he would have been

1225
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: put potentially if he had stuck Around. Oklahoma you, know

1226
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: had a bigger role At, oklahoma but was At Kip.

1227
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: Lewis you, know there's just a wall there at starting

1228
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: inside linebacker that's going to be hard to sort of.

1229
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: SUMMIT i don't. Know he looks like he is just

1230
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: ready to finish a season with one hundred and thirteen

1231
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 2: tackles for A ucla team that's probably gonna need somebody

1232
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: to need somebody fill up that stat sheet at tackle that.

1233
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: Tackles but he's he looks really really.

1234
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: Good can go side to, side has a ton of,

1235
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: range can play the, pass, yes which is good if

1236
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: you need to use him in the. Slot, whatever AND i,

1237
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 3: believe if memory, serves he was in the portal like

1238
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: four nanoseconds After oklahoma brought Down Cole sullivan From, michigan.

1239
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: RIGHT i think that was the chronology of. Events so

1240
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: this is a.

1241
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: Big get FOR.

1242
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: Ucla you sent me a video of Of Bob chesney

1243
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: earlier talking about in and.

1244
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: OUT i think you've got a thing For Bob.

1245
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: Chesney Bob, chesney aside from like the personality stuff in

1246
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: the Clips i've seen of him speaking to the, team

1247
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: just you're, Like, man if this guy doesn't work out AT,

1248
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: ucla it's not going to be for a lack of

1249
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: effort or. Commitment like he just seems like he is

1250
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: one of those do who will connect really well with his,

1251
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: players with his, staff with the people that worked for the,

1252
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: program and it's for, him it's just going to be

1253
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: like how well can he convince the money behind the

1254
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: scenes AT. Ucla it looks like he's done a decent

1255
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: job so far to open up the purse strings and

1256
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: open up the bank accounts for you, know portaling the

1257
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: years to come for whatever it is That West Coast

1258
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: recruitment has in mind FOR. Ucla but it's almost Sego

1259
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: by the way it's how you pronounced the last. Name but,

1260
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: yeah And oklahoma lost another big linebacker WHO i think

1261
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: was better against the run of the past To, northwestern

1262
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: another high profile. Dude so it's a good problem to

1263
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: have At oklahoma that you're so good at, attracting, evaluating

1264
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: and developing linebackers that they just have to find somewhere

1265
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: else to play because so many dudes are performing at

1266
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 2: a high. Level but, YEAH i Think sammy Almost sego

1267
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: is going to be very good for The. Bruins Kid

1268
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: uluave speaking of yeah man.

1269
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: Number one portal linebacker makes. Sense Leaving cal going TO

1270
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: byu is a huge get FOR. BYU byu might have

1271
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: one of the better linebacking groups in all the, country

1272
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: if not the conference.

1273
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: Agree they did last year for.

1274
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: Sure he grew up thirty miles FROM. Byu he is

1275
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: now going TO byu for his final. Season he had

1276
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: one hundred tackles a year. Ago he is truly a

1277
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: do it all kind of, linebacker one of these downhill,

1278
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 3: linebackers the type of guy who hits you and you're

1279
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: gonna see like helmets. Plyoff so you add that into

1280
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: a linebacking room that again is very very.

1281
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: Good he brings.

1282
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: Leadership he's like a film, junkie another one of these

1283
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: quarterback quarterback of the defense.

1284
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: Types you're hitting fantasy things in advance to get in

1285
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: the minds of announcers so that when you ultimately take

1286
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: he's the quarterback of the, Defense you're, LIKE i don't

1287
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: know where that came. FROM i GUESS i just MAYBE

1288
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: i said it On march eighteenth or. Something, quarterback you,

1289
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: know sideline to sideline.

1290
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: Continue i'm just going to try and play a little

1291
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: word association.

1292
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: Here try and keep him out of the film.

1293
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: Room get it, going you, know like If Kirk kurvestreet

1294
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: wants to talk about pinning your ears back and going

1295
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: after the, offense this is a guy who heard. That.

1296
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1297
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: AGREE i just think he's a.

1298
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: STUD i think he's a, stud AND i love What

1299
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: byu did in bringing him. DOWN i think he's somebody

1300
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: that they can slot in. Immediately and he's just like

1301
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: A swiss army. Knife you, know he's not the type

1302
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: of guy who you need to teach discipline.

1303
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Too he's very good at play. Recognition you will slot

1304
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 1: him in and expect high level production almost. Immediately. Yeah,

1305
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: slam duck. Slam dun. Agree give me your defensive, Back.

1306
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: John Tess WILLIAMS. Usc, yeah man From Iowa. STATE usc

1307
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: brings back corner, experience loses safety star power highlighted By

1308
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: Kamari ramsey went healthy last. Season they've got a lot

1309
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: of good names along the defensive. Line linebacker will, see

1310
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: we'll see like who is the star along the defensive.

1311
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: Line but when you look AT usc schedule and you

1312
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: look at the potential wide receiver matchups At, Oregon, Washington

1313
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: rutgers and kJ Duff Ohio state obviously And Jeremiah smith

1314
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: and who knows who gets matched up on. Who BUT

1315
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: usc needed more at, corner and they went out and

1316
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: they GOT i think he was the best corner available

1317
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: in this portal. Class he was. Down you told me

1318
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: this BETWEEN usc And Notre, dame so you were familiar

1319
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: with his decision. MAKING i, guess and was great At

1320
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: Iowa state TOWARDS. Acl but when on the, field you,

1321
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: know you watch, Me you're, like, MAN i WISH i

1322
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: wish the team were in your, case teams THAT i

1323
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: root for had more Of John Tez williams just like

1324
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: always positioned correctly to attack the. Ball good in the

1325
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: old open field as a, tackler just, dependable closing speed is, great,

1326
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 2: physical doesn't back down from bigger. Receivers a decent, SIZE

1327
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 2: i think he's five to eleven or six feet somewhere around,

1328
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 2: there but immediately MAKES usc better in the. Secondary Gary

1329
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: patterson has obviously been a part of developing some really

1330
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: good corners AT. Tcu it's been a, minute but should

1331
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: have opportunities to thrive and yet another NEW usc defensive.

1332
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: System and there are some changes along THE usc coaching

1333
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: staff outside Of Gary. Patterson obviously some assistants have come and.

1334
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: Gone BUT i just think he has set up for

1335
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: success provided his knee is in a good.

1336
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: Place, yeah the knee health will be. Something the other

1337
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,959
Speaker 3: thing that you didn't. Mention this is a very YOUNG

1338
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: usc secondary this, year, yes and so to bring a

1339
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: guy in like this who's got a couple of years starting,

1340
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: experience it's valuable to have that veteran. Leadership and you,

1341
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: know he was the top cornerback in effect in this portal.

1342
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: Class it did hurt For Notre dame to. LOSER i

1343
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: Know Notre dame wanted, him so the fact they lost

1344
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: him THE usc was kind of A.

1345
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: I would have been a healthy Partner joel With Leonard.

1346
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: Moore, right, absolutely SO i like this move off FOR.

1347
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: USC i you know what it looks like now With

1348
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: Gary patterson and how that translates after he's been out

1349
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 3: of the game for a couple of years will be

1350
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: interesting in kind of its own. Headline but at least

1351
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: getting a guy like this on campus is a pretty big. Deal.

1352
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 3: Yep final one for, Me please we talk About Notre.

1353
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: Dame let's talk ABOUT dj.

1354
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: McKinney, okay More. Colorado.

1355
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 3: YES dj McKinney played Opposite Travis hunter At. Colorado, yeah

1356
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 3: there IS i think an open question about his stat,

1357
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: line and the open question is is he as good

1358
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 3: as he looked or did he benefit from basically quarterbacks

1359
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 3: who just wanted to throw Opposite Travis hunter and maybe

1360
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: made some bad decisions in the. Process but that being,

1361
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 3: said he very much fits the mold of What Notre

1362
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: dame has been building at, cornerback which is long, corners

1363
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: physical corners who can play that style of football that

1364
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: we've seen out Of Leonard, moore that we've seen out

1365
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 3: Of Christian. Gray i'm not the world's Biggest Christian gray,

1366
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: fan so IF dj McKinney can slot in and maybe

1367
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: bump him over to the slot or into more of

1368
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 3: a rotational.

1369
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: Role i'd be cool with.

1370
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 3: That it'll be really interesting to me to see how

1371
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: they USE dj, McKinney how they Use Christian, gray how

1372
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 3: they Use Jaden, sanders who they also got From.

1373
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: Michigan they have some options.

1374
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: Here Notre dame was at a spot coming into this

1375
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: portal class where the quality was already really. Good they

1376
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 3: just needed more, quantity they needed some, depth and so

1377
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: it took them a little bit to get. Going but,

1378
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 3: eventually once they, did they brought in a couple guys

1379
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 3: THAT i think can can. Play he's a big, guy

1380
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: he's like six to, two he's won. EIGHTY i, mean

1381
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 3: he very much fits that mold for. Them there aren't

1382
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 3: a whole lot of killers on This Notre dame. Schedule and,

1383
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 3: again speaking of things that.

1384
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: Could let me write this, down speaking.

1385
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: Of things that could be their own podcast episode, altogether

1386
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: that's one of. Them, yeah so in, theory he should

1387
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 3: thrive pretty.

1388
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, okay in this.

1389
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: System oh we'll, see we shall all, right real, quick real.

1390
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: Quick some other names that popped.

1391
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 3: UP i just want to get your quick reaction to

1392
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 3: these let's say five. Names, Okay kenny minsche At. Kentucky

1393
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 3: this one came in via For bawlers Dot.

1394
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: Com, yeah Will stein has had success with. Quarterbacks it's

1395
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: gonna be a question of who is surrounded by and

1396
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: how we. Response for the first time as being the

1397
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: dude at a big.

1398
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: PLACE i HAD Dj lagway down on my. LIST i

1399
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 3: swapped it out For Aaron. Filo, Yeah filo Replaces, lagway

1400
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: who goes To. Baylor this is somebody who's got a

1401
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: family connection To. BAYLOR i am really interested in this.

1402
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: Signing first, OFF i thought maybe that he would go,

1403
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 3: elsewhere but he ended up a. Bailor i'm not sure

1404
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 3: that this system fits him because based on what we

1405
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: saw out Of lagway last, year he struggled with a

1406
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: lot of the things THAT i Think Jake spavitol is

1407
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: going to. Demand this is an air raid, system a

1408
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: lot of pre snap, processing a lot of decision. Making

1409
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 3: the physical tools are all there FOR Dj, lagway but

1410
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: that side of this offense is definitely an area where

1411
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: he needs some. Help so if he can improve the

1412
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 3: skill talents there for, sure but some of this stuff

1413
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 3: needs to get better in order for this to. Pop the,

1414
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: WAY i Think baylor fans would want it. To SO

1415
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: i LIKE Dj lagway by all. Accounts he's a, good

1416
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: very coachable. Player you, know he is in town to

1417
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 3: try and improve his, game for, Sure but fourteen interceptions last,

1418
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 3: year some games more ugly than. Others there's definitely some

1419
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 3: room for improvement. Here so we'll see what this looks.

1420
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: Like, yeah and, also Like, Sawyer robertson had good counting,

1421
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: stats had over thirty touchdowns and went over three hundred

1422
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: yards a. Game he did not destroy teams with, efficiency you,

1423
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: know it's a lot of quick. Stuff you, know really

1424
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: struggled had you, know bad interception games as, Well and

1425
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: so we'll see. That it's just a change of scenery

1426
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: that helps things FOR Dj.

1427
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: Lagway Anthony, Calandria.

1428
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah part of the. Dominoes, YEAH i love this For.

1429
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 3: Nebraska, ACTUALLY i Love Anthony, calandria So i'm. Biased, okay

1430
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 3: he had a good year last. Year he h had

1431
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: a really good year last year with you AND. Lv

1432
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: this is interesting to me because he is kind of

1433
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: like a chaos, quarterback you, know like he's best as an.

1434
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: Improviser when things break, down that's when he. Thrives and

1435
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 3: SO i just think you pair a guy like that

1436
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: with somebody Like Dana, holgerson, who for as long as

1437
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: we've been doing this, SHOW i would probably label some

1438
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: of What Dana holgerson does is chaotic and.

1439
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: Different AND i don't.

1440
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: KNOW i think this could be a really interesting. Pairing

1441
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: he's definitely more of a dual threat guy THAN i

1442
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 3: think they had last year With Dylan, roola and it

1443
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: seems to me Like holgerson could work with. That So

1444
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: i'm curious to see at the end of, time like

1445
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 3: when we're doing the show year from, Now i'm curious

1446
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: to see in, reality how, big if, any of a

1447
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: downgrade we see going From royola To.

1448
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: Calandria here's ALL i can.

1449
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: SAY i don't think we've ever USED i don't think

1450
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: we've ever constructed the sentence. Man this Year's Matt rule

1451
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: offense is. Explosive Dana holgerson's reputation precedes Him Matt rule team. Offenses,

1452
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: yeah never really get anybody super, Excited.

1453
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: Tye, no.

1454
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: You're not going to have to go to the doctor

1455
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 2: after four hours of watching A Matt rule offense right,

1456
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: Now it's just not gonna. Happen, okay, next next?

1457
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: One, here Is Darien.

1458
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: Menson, YEAH i just don't think he's going to have

1459
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: an impact that is different than What Carson beck's. Was

1460
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: Carson beck was very. Good Darian mensa should be very.

1461
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 3: GOOD i think he's somewhere between Cam ward And Carson

1462
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 3: beck his coll, set it's somewhere in.

1463
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: Between there probably has a better elbow coming into the,

1464
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 2: season a better.

1465
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: Elbow.

1466
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: YEAH i.

1467
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 3: Know Shannon dawson in some of the articles THAT i,

1468
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: saw has commented about how he's a little bit more

1469
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: prone to playing efficiently than playing hero. Ball, yeah which

1470
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: is definitely a little bit more on The Carson beck

1471
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: side of the spectrum than Cam, ward who was all hero.

1472
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: Ball So i'm curious to how this. WORKS i, mean

1473
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 3: there's a ton of talent around. Him he is a very,

1474
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: accurate highly efficient. Passer there's no REASON i think this won't.

1475
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: Work that, said there are probably a lot of people

1476
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 3: who are rooting, it rooting for it to go bust

1477
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: because of the weird circumstances that brought him To miami

1478
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 3: in the first prese but breaking the contract With, duke

1479
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: the weird legal, stuff getting a crazy amount was it

1480
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 3: like ten million dollars or something to go down To, miami.

1481
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: We'll see what this looks.

1482
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 3: Like But miami, continues at least on the surface to

1483
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 3: add these quarterbacks who are going to perform at a

1484
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: really high.

1485
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: Level by the, way just in terms of The Darian mensa,

1486
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: thing putting a ball on, that If miami doesn't have

1487
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: one of the best four, three four five combinations of

1488
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: quarterback receiver running back in the, country it means two

1489
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: of them got. Hurt this Is, Malachai Tony Cooper barcade

1490
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: over From duke as, Well Darien. Mensa was it Van

1491
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: Drivius jones From South carolina who is a big play

1492
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: dude along with the defense whatever like? This that the

1493
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: combination of What miami has offensive skill wise is you

1494
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 2: can count on a single. Hand maybe it might be top,

1495
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: two three something in, there great position to be.

1496
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: In, last but certily not at Least Culton joseph From Old,

1497
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: Dominion oh good one as. WELL i Believe Colton joseph

1498
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 3: had more rushing yards last season Than wisconsin did as a.

1499
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: Team great, Good so that's a good.

1500
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 3: Start he's sort of like the, premiere one of the

1501
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 3: premiere duel threat guys in this portal. Class he's not

1502
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: going to get top, billing but ran for a thousand

1503
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 3: yards stand thirteen rushing touchdowns pretty.

1504
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: Good had two big runs Against Indiana.

1505
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: National CHAMP yep early part of the.

1506
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 3: Season so how he factors into like The Jeff grime,

1507
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 3: system which is a lot of play action and how

1508
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 3: they use the skill so interesting to. See but there's

1509
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: a lot riding on whether or not this, works much

1510
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 3: the way there's a lot riding.

1511
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Speaker 1: ON Dj lagway At baylor For Dave.

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Speaker 3: Randa Luke fickle and his trials and tribulations At wisconsin

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Speaker 3: are well documented at this, point and you could argue

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Speaker 3: that they only just kept him around because it was

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Speaker 3: too crowded a coaching market and they wanted to try

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 3: one more year to reinvest in nil and see if

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 3: he can make things. Go so he has not had

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Speaker 3: any luck at quarterback thus far in his time In.

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Speaker 2: Madison now Disagree Tanner mordecai when, healthy when totally good

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Speaker 2: quarterback for like three.

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Speaker 3: Games though you know he's had bad luck in one

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Speaker 3: way or another at the quarterback, position be it with

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Speaker 3: injuries or with the talent just not working. Out this

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Speaker 3: one's got a hit if he wants to stay In.

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Speaker 2: Madison, yeah it's just who's he throwing? To once again For,

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Speaker 2: wisconsin that remains the. Question who are the game changes

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Speaker 2: and the schedules not, horrible as we discussed a couple

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Speaker 2: of shows, ago but who's he throwing to that's going

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Speaker 2: to make him look? Good open question to.

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Speaker 3: Me right in solid verbal at gmail dot. Com let

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Speaker 3: us know your thoughts on these. Transfers we get a

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Speaker 3: bunch more that we're mentioned out On. Patreon maybe we

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 3: can get to those on The thursday bonus episode if

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Speaker 3: we've got some, time but right, in let us know

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01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the transfer that is most interesting to

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Speaker 3: you for one reason or.

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Speaker 1: Another everybody's reasons are.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, different but we want to hear from

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Speaker 3: the verballer hood on this. One as we start building

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: into spring football eventually into the actual preseason part of the,

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 3: calendar we've got a lot of time to think about this.

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Speaker 3: Stuff but welcome to your thoughts here in Mid. March

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Speaker 3: great on who's moving the needle for, You Dan, rubinstein

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01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: go back one and all listen to the episodes that

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Speaker 3: we did over the last two. WEEKS i think they've

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Speaker 3: been a lot of. FUN i know they've been a

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01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 3: lot of fun for us to put. Together we'll be

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 3: back next. Week you AND i got to figure out

1549
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: over the next couple days where we want to go

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Speaker 3: with it. Next but this was a nice little. REFRESHER

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Speaker 3: i appreciate that we did. THIS i only speaking for myself.

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Speaker 3: HERE i cannot wait to learn more about your hot.

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Speaker 3: SWAPPING i THINK i speak For. AMERICA i Think i'm

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Speaker 3: comfortable saying. That can't wait for that guy over, There

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Speaker 3: dan for myself over, Here, ty thanks again for, downloading for,

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Speaker 3: listening hit, follow hit. Subscribe we'll catch you all next.

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Speaker 2: Week Stay saw, peace