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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. As we roll through the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program, I am back in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Buck has traveled back home for a short period of

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Speaker 1: time before he's on the road again. Trump continues to dominate,

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Speaker 1: having hit the ground at a full on sprint, as

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Speaker 1: he is continuing to remake the country and to a

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Speaker 1: large extent, erase much of the legacy of the entire

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Speaker 1: Biden regime. All of that rolling through as many of

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Speaker 1: us look around and think, I can't believe how quickly

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Speaker 1: he is moving, But my goodness, I am glad that

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Speaker 1: all of this is being put in place. And frankly,

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Speaker 1: many of the things that Trump is undertaking even kind

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Speaker 1: of surprise me. And then I look at them and

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Speaker 1: I say, my goodness. I mean, he's actually act in

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Speaker 1: a way that demonstrates he's not screwing around. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: gotten into office so far and gotten bogged down in

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Speaker 1: any of the petty issues out there. And Buck, this

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Speaker 1: new EO that he has put out that essentially says, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're involved in DEI at all, then you are

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Speaker 1: out now again. A lot of this is going to

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Speaker 1: lead to substantial litigation, and we have to understand that.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's frustrating to some of you, because

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Speaker 1: the courts are going to weigh in, and you're going

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Speaker 1: to have a district court judge and a random location

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Speaker 1: President doesn't have this authority, and then it's going to

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Speaker 1: go to a circuit court, and then it's going to

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Speaker 1: wind its way all the way to the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: But the symbolism of something as profound as saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: DEI has no basis whatsoever in our government actually sends

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Speaker 1: an incredible message across the country and it forces many

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Speaker 1: different big corporations out there, and many of you that

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Speaker 1: have been forced to be sitting around for these ridiculous

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Speaker 1: DEI seminars as part of your HR training. No matter

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Speaker 1: where you work, whether it's a public school, whether it's

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Speaker 1: a large corporation, if the federal government is saying this

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Speaker 1: is no longer the rule of the land, a lot

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Speaker 1: of these companies that may have recognized that this is

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Speaker 1: absurd and should have had no basis in reality for

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Speaker 1: a long time feel emboldened and enabled to be able

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Speaker 1: to stand up and say enough with this good riddance,

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Speaker 1: And it actually does, even if it's held up in court,

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Speaker 1: have a substantial impact on the day to day life

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Speaker 1: of tens of millions of Americans. Which is why I

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Speaker 1: say I love the incredible bravery that Trump is showing

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Speaker 1: right now to stand up against all this absurdity. I

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Speaker 1: think he believes it. I think he's been put in

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Speaker 1: place an incredible team to be able to enforce it,

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Speaker 1: put the best regulations forward for the Supreme Court to review.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of this buck. I imagine you

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Speaker 1: feel the same way, Clay.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's difficult to even keep up with all

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Speaker 2: the great stuff that has been happening this early in

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Speaker 2: an administration. I've never seen any I've never seen anything

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Speaker 2: like it before. I don't think anyone's ever seen anything

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Speaker 2: like it before. You know, there used to be this sense,

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Speaker 2: I think of you got to kind of ease in

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, But no, actually there's no

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Speaker 2: easing in. There's a sense of urgency. You know. When

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Speaker 2: in New York at this fancy restaurer, I remember up.

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Speaker 2: It was a Thomas Keller place up on the wall.

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Speaker 2: The one thing they had was sense of urgency. Because

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Speaker 2: these guys are operating in the culinary game at the

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Speaker 2: absolute top, world class level. This administration has a sense

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Speaker 2: of urgency, hitting the ground running clay. Let me just

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Speaker 2: throw I'm throwing this out there. It's like the menu

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Speaker 2: of things we would talking about today. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: got to that. The DEI thing is amazing. I mean

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Speaker 2: Trump rescinding Executive Order eleven two four six from Lyndon

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Speaker 2: Johnson and making sure that that Affirmative Action DEI it's

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Speaker 2: no longer part of the federal government. There's other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Trump administration has canceled travel plans for refugees who are

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Speaker 2: who were planning to be resettled in the United States.

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Speaker 2: State Department issues a one flag policy. This is one

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Speaker 2: of those things where you say, in what world should

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Speaker 2: it's not like we were flying the flag of the

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Speaker 2: It's not about flying the flag of the host country.

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Speaker 2: Also as some kind of a gesture of goodwill, we're

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Speaker 2: the Bide administration. That's done with Trump administration expanding the

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Speaker 2: with all this stuff. And I think that what we're

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Speaker 2: with the prosecutions, with the attempt at assassinations. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this Trump is going for it, and this is what

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Speaker 2: we want. This is what we've voted for, and it

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Speaker 2: is just the beginning, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And what I still would point to is buck the

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Speaker 1: opposition can't get itself in order because they are just

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Speaker 1: falling all over themselves. I legitimately can't believe that of

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Speaker 1: everything that took place over the Trump inauguration and of

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Speaker 1: die on this hill. Is Elon Musk supposedly doing a

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Speaker 1: Nazi gesture when any of you that have watched this

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Speaker 1: clip is self evident that he is awkwardly, I will

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Speaker 1: acknowledge because I do think in some ways Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: is an uncomfortable public speaker. And for any of you

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Speaker 1: you may watch yourself speaking and say, boy, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: look anything like I ordinarily would. So he's trying to

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Speaker 1: say from the bottom of my heart, and he taps

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Speaker 1: his heart and he kind of just throws his hand

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Speaker 1: out in gesture, clearly to the entire arena awkwardly. But

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Speaker 1: to claim that this is some kind of Nazi salute

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Speaker 1: is so crazy. I can't believe that this is their messaging. Buck,

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Speaker 1: this is what they have immediately fallen into.

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Speaker 2: They're desperate, they're delusional. Just take a step back from

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Speaker 2: this for a second, Clay, all of us take a

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Speaker 2: step back from this. So their theory now is that

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Speaker 2: the richest man in the world randomly would decide to

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Speaker 2: throw a Nazi salute into a speech. Why because he's

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Speaker 2: a secret Nazi. They really believe that. Anyone who believes

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Speaker 2: that is a moron. And I know we shouldn't use

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't call people names. I get emails. No, anyone

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Speaker 2: who thinks that Elon Musk is a secret crypto Nazi

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Speaker 2: because of that is an imbecile who should be listened

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Speaker 2: to about nothing Like Congressoman Aos for example, she's an idiot,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I take it back. They can't make

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Speaker 2: her into a bigger deal. They wish they could. She's

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Speaker 2: too dumb. She's too dumb, and she's not even.

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Speaker 1: Of your speaking about how dumb she is. This is

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Speaker 1: their messaging. They've learned nothing from the last nine years.

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Speaker 1: They've learned nothing by the massive increase of support for

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Speaker 1: Jewish voters for Trump, or for the fact that due

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Speaker 1: to the college campus protest, if you're going to assign

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism to either the Democrat or the Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: it's clearly more prominent on the Democratic side of the equation.

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Speaker 2: Here she is social media superstar who also happens to

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Speaker 2: one of the lowest IQ individuals in the Congress. Here

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Speaker 2: she is saying that Elon Musk made a Nazi hand gesture.

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Speaker 3: Play eight, you're gonna do a sig hail. You're going

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Speaker 3: to do a hail Hitler or their rebrand a Roman

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Speaker 3: of America. It's on. It's on. And what is so

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Speaker 3: important for us to understand is that as long as

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Speaker 3: we don't give up, it's not over. It's not over.

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Speaker 3: It is not over.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I thought she was over with this. She's more

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Speaker 2: to give us more. We need more of them being

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Speaker 2: completely childish imbeciles. We need them to keep doing this

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Speaker 2: stuff that got us to this point where so much

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Speaker 2: of the country is unified. In just taking out the

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Speaker 2: Trump steamroller and the whine, the usual tricks, you'll notice,

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Speaker 2: you know, I saw, for example, someone who you know,

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Speaker 2: the border waiting to come in. On the app they

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Speaker 2: she can't come in. Yes, we're gonna have to say

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Speaker 2: tough things to people sometimes. Yes, we're going to have

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Speaker 2: to say you actually can't come into the country. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you have a country that you were born in. That

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Speaker 2: is your country of origin and nationality and citizenship. Go

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Speaker 2: make that country a better place. We've had enough of

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Speaker 2: this ten million under Biden. Okay, the old moral blackmail

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Speaker 2: stuff clay from the media and the Democrats. We don't care.

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Speaker 2: It's not working.

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Speaker 1: Also, I think this is indicative to your point of

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Speaker 1: how AOC rose to prominence. She rode a rigged social

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Speaker 1: her an artificial sense of the popularity of the opinions

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Speaker 1: she was sharing. And this is they don't have any

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Speaker 1: idea how to adjust. I've said this, but last month

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Speaker 1: I was in Israel to claim that prominent Trump supporters

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Speaker 1: are Nazis. They tried this with Trump. It didn't work

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Speaker 1: that you would suggest that. What this reminds me. You

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Speaker 1: remember when they decided the Oka hand gester.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about that, didn't they They got

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Speaker 2: like a Mexican American fired from his power line company

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Speaker 1: Well, you remember, for most people out there, and I'm

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Speaker 1: doing the gesture on camera here, it was like if

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Speaker 1: you got somebody to look at that you could punch

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Speaker 1: him in the arm, right.

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Speaker 2: But here, yeah, but here's yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the culture that was going on, but it was

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Speaker 1: like they got people fired. They called it a racist

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Speaker 1: hand gesture on television. They showed it at the Army

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Speaker 1: Navy game. I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But this is such an important reminder because they don't

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Speaker 2: have the power anymore to get their way with this stuff.

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Speaker 2: We lived in an America not long ago, a few

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Speaker 2: years ago, before this election, before twenty twenty five. We

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Speaker 2: lived in America where Democrats could decide the most insane

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Speaker 2: crap imaginable and you would suffer for it. They would

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Speaker 2: decide that men could be women. They would decide that

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Speaker 2: a random hand gesture that has nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: anything means you're a secret white supremacist. They would say

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump is a crypto fascist who's going to

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Speaker 2: put people in camps clay. They could get away with

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Speaker 2: saying anything, and you know, it's a reminder also of

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Speaker 2: the era where they could just call someone racist and

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Speaker 2: ruin them not anymore, not anymore, or it doesn't it

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Speaker 2: doesn't work anymore. They're stupid games. They're communist approach to

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Speaker 2: the society around them. It just doesn't have the same

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Speaker 2: doesn't have the same punch. Sorry, libs.

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Speaker 1: I will say this is to me really representative of

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Speaker 1: them not being able to figure out how to fight

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Speaker 1: back against Trump. That they think that going after Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk for a gesture during a speech is going to

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Speaker 1: in some way imperil his abilits. That's what that's is

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Speaker 1: really about, right, It's about imperiling Trump's ability to get

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get in Las Vegas. You're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to hit this because I do think

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Speaker 1: I think it's supremely important. The pardon power. Let me

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Speaker 1: It's really more of a parenting philosophy than anything else.

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Speaker 2: It's just they're whatever helps their team is good, Whatever

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Speaker 2: These people were all prosecuted more vigorously than anybody else

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Speaker 2: And they brought all of these in DC because of

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Speaker 1: relocate that case to my home state of Tennessee and

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Speaker 1: my home jurisdiction of the Nashville area and allow a

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Speaker 1: I were charged with the crime that would be me specifically,

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Speaker 1: you would be able to relocate something to Miami Dade.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who has charges brought against them. I think there

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Speaker 1: should be a law passed. The Republicans could pass it

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Speaker 1: right now. I think it would be tremendously beneficial for

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Speaker 1: lawfair because one of the motivating factors of the lawfair Buck,

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Speaker 1: they want to bring. All I'm asking is, hey, give

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to someone like me or you or any

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Speaker 1: someone else in the country to actually be charged in

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Speaker 1: a home jurisdiction as opposed to DC.

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Speaker 2: This is just an aside, but our conversation about this

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Speaker 2: reminds me of it.

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Speaker 5: What a.

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Speaker 2: Clown Jack Smith is. Oh, it's hard to believe how

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Speaker 2: much put aside the egregious weaponization right the art, but

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Speaker 2: it's also that he was so incompetent with the timing

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Speaker 2: of it was so clearly manipulated and orchestrated to rig

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Speaker 2: the system against Trump, and it was all for nothing.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I actually think that it propelled Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: to just be the choice without even a real primary

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Speaker 2: having to happen, and then normal Americans who aren't insane

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Speaker 2: because of Trump's arrangement just said, yeah, no, we're making

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Speaker 2: a president again Buck.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know who didn't get a preemptive pardon, Jack Smith?

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Speaker 2: Jack Smith.

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Speaker 1: I think Biden's actually angry about how Jack Smith did

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Speaker 1: I think he's wrong, but I think he believes that

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Speaker 1: stay on trial for Jan six or related incidents, then

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Speaker 1: it would have actually damaged him. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I buy that as being true, but I think that's

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Speaker 1: just look at who we've pardoned and who he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Our two Clayan Buck kicks off now, and we know

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Speaker 2: that the presidents has come out with a slew of

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Speaker 2: executive orders, so many of them are fantastic. I love

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Speaker 2: the only American flags flying at MSC's the left. And

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Speaker 2: people can try to dismiss this stuff as cosmetic or

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Speaker 2: minor or whatever it's it's not minor because it's all

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Speaker 2: part of an ideology that had been allowed to fest stir,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the federal government, that you can push your

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Speaker 2: pet projects at different government buildings because it's for you know,

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Speaker 2: oppressed people or something or whatever it may be, and

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Speaker 2: that's just not that's not okay. I think it was

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Speaker 2: all should all be considered that it was violations of

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Speaker 2: the Hatch Act, but put that aside for a moment.

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Speaker 2: They say, oh, it's not about a political party. Yeah

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Speaker 2: it is. Actually, yeah, it is okay when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about something like BLM. One side of the political aisle

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Speaker 2: supported it, even though it's resulted in thousands and thousands

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Speaker 2: more people killed than nothing good came of it. The

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Speaker 2: other side has opposed it. Now. The border, though, is

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Speaker 2: where the rubber really meets the road on this administration,

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Speaker 2: and we're just seeing the beginning of it. Immigrations and

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Speaker 2: Customs Enforcement arrested three hundred and eight. Oh oh, we're

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Speaker 2: going to call them legal aliens again in the federal government,

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Speaker 2: and we've continue to call them legal aliens. The the

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Speaker 2: worst of these, I think euphemisms is undocumented. That's the

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Speaker 2: one that's particularly annoying because what does that even mean.

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Speaker 2: It really doesn't tell you anything other than, oh, maybe

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Speaker 2: if we just made them, if we gave them documents,

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Speaker 2: then everything would be fun. Three hundred and eight illegal

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Speaker 2: illegal aliens were arrested Trump's first day in office, according

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Speaker 2: to the Borders are we'll get to this here, Tom Homan,

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Speaker 2: what he's been doing in just a moment. But these

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Speaker 2: are people that have been charged with murder, child rape,

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Speaker 2: pain his crimes. They're illegals and they're still in the country.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've done horrible things in America and we're

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Speaker 2: still letting them roam this country as though it's no

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Speaker 2: big deal. I mean, this is these are the public

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Speaker 2: safety threats that they said they were going to focus

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Speaker 2: on first. That's not to say there's not going to

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Speaker 2: be a whole other range of deportations as well. Trump

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Speaker 2: has deployed fifteen hundred active duty troops to the border

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Speaker 2: to help with securing the border, So that's a part

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Speaker 2: of this. There's been a huge drop off in illegal

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Speaker 2: crossings at the border. Play you have the number, handy

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Speaker 2: what was It's gone from over ten.

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Speaker 1: Thousand, thousand, yeah, twelve thousand in the final two days

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Speaker 1: of Biden to under eight hundred in the first two

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Speaker 1: days of Trump. So what is that like a ninety

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Speaker 1: some odd percent decline in the number of illegal border

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Speaker 1: crossings just since Trump came into office.

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Speaker 2: So this is really encouraging and Tom this this was

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Speaker 2: an interesting moment though, Tom Holman explaining to Dana Bash

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Speaker 2: that yes, the Trump administration is going to enforce federal

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Speaker 2: immigration law and that means that if you are in

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Speaker 2: the country illegally and ICE finds you, you are subject

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Speaker 2: to deportation. This is like a shock to see Ann

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Speaker 2: that the law is actually the law, and some people

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Speaker 2: might see it that way. Listen to how Borders are

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Speaker 2: Homan was one of my favorite of the Trump senior

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Speaker 2: administration officials. I mean, he's like tops, He's an all

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Speaker 2: star among a star team. But here he is explaining

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Speaker 2: patiently to CNN. Yeah, that's actually what I'm saying. Play.

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Speaker 2: This is cut three, and.

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Speaker 5: This is a difference between the last administration this administration.

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Speaker 5: ICE is going to force the immigration law. There's nothing

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Speaker 5: in the I in a Immigration Nationality Act says you

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Speaker 5: got to be convicted of a serious crime in order

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Speaker 5: to be removed from this country. So there's gonna be

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Speaker 5: more collabal arrest in Santori cities could because they forced

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Speaker 5: us to go in the community and find and find

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Speaker 5: the guy we're looking for.

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Speaker 7: The first she said that the first targets are those

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Speaker 7: with criminal records. But you are also saying that those

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Speaker 7: who are undocumented in the US who don't have criminal records,

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Speaker 7: people who are working in their communities, maybe even have

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Speaker 7: spouses who are American citizens, they could be swept up

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Speaker 7: with ICE today as well.

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Speaker 5: What I'm telling you is when we go find that

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Speaker 5: priority tiger, which is a criminal alien, if he's with

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Speaker 5: others in the United States illegally, we're going to take

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Speaker 5: enforcement action against them. We're going to force immigration.

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Speaker 2: Law Clay what he's what he was saying, and the

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Speaker 2: run up to this explanation as well is because sanctuary

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Speaker 2: jurisdictions don't want to have law enforcement, just work with

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Speaker 2: federal law enforcement on this. Meaning you're in the county jail, okay,

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Speaker 2: now you're gonna get handed over to ICE. That's the

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Speaker 2: safest and best way Homan was explaining for that transfer

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Speaker 2: to happen, and obviously most efficient as well, because they

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Speaker 2: say no, they intentionally let them loose in the community.

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Speaker 2: If the if an illegal who's committed a let's say,

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Speaker 2: a rape or a murder is found in a house

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Speaker 2: with five other illegals by ICE, all of them are

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Speaker 2: subject to deportation. Yeah, and I would just point out

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Speaker 2: Dana Dana sorry, I never get it right, Uh, Dana Bash, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: Dana Perino, Dana Bash that a lot of this aggressive

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Speaker 2: questioning is this is CNN, right, Am I correct that

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Speaker 2: this was the CNN interview. The there is it, I

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Speaker 2: believe and again and you guys can correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. Democrats picked Dana Bash to interview Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: remember Tim Walls, the sort of the Lifeguard weird interview

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Speaker 2: that they did, And then they went back and they

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Speaker 2: looked at how Dana Bash questioned in this situation, the

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Speaker 2: JD vance versus how she questioned Walls and Kamala, and

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Speaker 2: the disconnect was striking. She is one going after him

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Speaker 2: far more aggressively than she has in the past for

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Speaker 2: Democrat officials. And two, it doesn't seem like she has

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Speaker 2: really done much of her homework here to be sitting

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Speaker 2: down and interviewing somebody who is an expert in this

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Speaker 2: and you know this, Buck, it's a challenge. Warriors have

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Speaker 2: to deal with this a lot because let's say you're

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Speaker 2: a lawyer and you're involved in a medical malpractice case.

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Speaker 2: You're grilling a surgeon on something that he or she

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Speaker 2: does for a living, and they know their expertise so

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Speaker 2: well that you have to basically become a doctor in

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Speaker 2: order to ask questions intelligently. Here, there's no homework that's

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Speaker 2: been done, there is it. It's like it's just a

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Speaker 2: partisan attack, and he's just kind of slapping back these

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Speaker 2: questions because they aren't particularly sophisticated or intelligent in terms

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Speaker 2: of the way that they're being used to sort of

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Speaker 2: get at this issue. Now, there's also been the change

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Speaker 2: in how some Democrats view the illegal alien issue. You know,

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson is a very big podcast, and he sat

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Speaker 2: down with now sat down with Mayor Eric Adams. We've asked,

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Speaker 2: We're still going to keep asking. He sat down to

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Speaker 2: have him on. But New York City's Mayor Eric Adams

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Speaker 2: spoke about what the up to this election Democrat party

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Speaker 2: required of people the issue of illegal aliens. And listen

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Speaker 2: to this from a prominent Democrat.

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Speaker 8: I think they used the terminology you were not being

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Speaker 8: a good Democrat. I think that was their philosophy that

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Speaker 8: I was supposed to silently watch what happens.

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Speaker 2: To this city. And I love this city.

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Speaker 8: This is a city that I gave my life to

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Speaker 8: protect and I was.

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Speaker 2: Watching the erosion.

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Speaker 8: We would get in almost eight thousand migrans and asylum

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Speaker 8: seekers a week, sixteen thousand every two weeks, and we

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Speaker 8: were being compelled by the Legal Aid Society to find

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Speaker 8: them housing within a short period of time until we

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Speaker 8: had to go back to court and fight that this

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Speaker 8: humanitarian crisis is not what is normally. Someone has in

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Speaker 8: the right to have shelter within the city, and they

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Speaker 8: were coming in one, two, three am in the morning.

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Speaker 8: It was a constant overturn.

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Speaker 2: Major cost in New Yorkers. Clay and Democrat prominent African

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Speaker 2: American leader Eric Adams has said this was disastrous. And

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams is in I think an interesting position here.

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Speaker 2: Let's play cut seven to where he says the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party left me. He is the mayor of the largest

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Speaker 2: Democrat majority city in America, and here's cut seven.

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Speaker 8: The people off to say, well, you know, you don't

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Speaker 8: sound like a Democrat and you know you seem to

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Speaker 8: have left the party. No, the party left me and

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Speaker 8: then left working class people in our conversations that we

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Speaker 8: should be talking about are not the issues that every

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Speaker 8: day people that are in power talking about people are

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Speaker 8: concerned about the future of their families, and that should

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Speaker 8: be our focus, and that's the focus of this administration.

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Speaker 1: Buck This to me, is probably going to be the

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Speaker 1: most interesting election in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know, he just came through an election and Trump

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Speaker 1: had incredible success with growing his Asian, his Black, his

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Speaker 1: Hispanic support. But to me, we'll see whether Cuomo jumps

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Speaker 1: into this race. Eric Adams seems to be intent on

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Speaker 1: running for reelection. I know we've got the governor's race

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey and the governor's race in Virginia, and

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Speaker 1: those are very important. But what you're seeing here is

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Speaker 1: some of the traditional Democrat core base is rejecting now

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Speaker 1: the lies that Democrats are requiring them to tell. And

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Speaker 1: this is sort of a conflict, right. We've seen this

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Speaker 1: happen in Chicago, We've seen it happen in New York City.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these big cities are saying, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: we don't have the resources to take care of actual

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Speaker 1: citizens and give them the right opportunities in these cities.

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Speaker 1: And now you're telling me we need to be spending

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Speaker 1: tax dollars on migrants, that we need to be giving

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Speaker 1: them hotel rooms, Wi FI free meals all these things,

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Speaker 1: and there is a conflict between people who may need

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Speaker 1: those resources, overwhelmingly black and brown in those cities, right,

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Speaker 1: a lot of white people need it too, but Hispanic

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Speaker 1: and black citizens feel like, hey, we're not getting the

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Speaker 1: resources in support we need in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, LA.

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Speaker 1: And suddenly we're seeing all these migrants get treated better

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Speaker 1: than actual citizens. And I think you're gonna see an

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Speaker 1: element of that become a major part of New York

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Speaker 1: City's mayoral race in this spring, summer and fall as

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Speaker 2: Just think about it. If you're somebody who's an actual

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Speaker 2: American and a New Yorker and you're falling on hard

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Speaker 2: times and you have to go and prove you know

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Speaker 2: all these different things to get benefits, whether you know

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Speaker 2: unemployment benefits and housing benefits, in these things. New York

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Speaker 2: City has a very large welfare and benefits apparatus. But

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Speaker 2: you're going through all those hoops and everything else, and

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Speaker 2: then you look over and you see, hold on a second,

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Speaker 2: So people just come here illegally, who have never paid

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Speaker 2: taxes here, who are not Americans here, and they get

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Speaker 2: free housing, free food, and pre loaded debit cards. And

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Speaker 2: I'm paying for this, or at least theoretically, you know,

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Speaker 2: when I'm working my job, my portion of my wages

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Speaker 2: is going to fund the City of New York, and

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Speaker 2: so I'm paying for this. Lee At some point, Clay,

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Speaker 2: it's too much, and we crossed at some point, and

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Speaker 2: that's what Eric Adams is speaking to it, and I

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Speaker 2: We were, Our goodness and our sense of charity as

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Speaker 2: a nation has been just abused systematically by the millions

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Speaker 2: who have come across too, done the same thing. But

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Speaker 2: ten million people is too many, you know, enough is enough.

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Speaker 2: The wide open border policies of Biden have made the

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Speaker 2: American people see that this is a scam, it's wrong,

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Speaker 2: and it needs to stop. And I'm happy to see

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Speaker 2: among many others. So I'm gonna have been in three

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I mentioned

742
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: this to you yesterday. I wanted to dive into it

743
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: with play right now, not not because we want to

744
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: give more time to it per se, but I think

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00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: that it's indicative of a broader attitude and it is

746
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Speaker 2: something that for me at least, is a big part

747
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Speaker 2: of why the Democrats lost as badly as they did

748
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: and don't seem to be learning any lessons from that loss.

749
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Speaker 2: And it's this yesterday, this bishop who decided that it

750
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Speaker 2: was time to lecture Donald Trump and his family and

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Speaker 2: also the gathered vice president's family. Do we have her

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Speaker 2: going on the view? Guys? I just realized, I'm at

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Speaker 2: a tweeter. We do, Okay, So so this is this

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00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: is what what you gotta know. This person is an

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00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: act a political activist, doing what she does in clergy robes,

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Speaker 2: doing it from behind the facade of religious purity, which

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Speaker 2: I find very annoying, Okay, especially because I would disagree strenuously.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the Bible was supportive of transgender

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Speaker 2: surgery for twelve year olds. Okay, I don't buy it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, she can try to lecture me otherwise. I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Bible means that you also don't have

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Speaker 2: to respect the rules of the or the laws of

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Speaker 2: the land that you are in. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: that illegal immigration is something that the Bible just says

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Speaker 2: you have to. But put that aside for a second.

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Speaker 2: I don't want Trump getting lectured by some left wing activists.

767
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Speaker 2: And how do we know she's a left wing activist.

768
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Speaker 2: She's a long history of it, Big George Floyd fan,

769
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Speaker 2: by the way, you know Saint George Floyd, of course,

770
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Speaker 2: canonized by left wing bishops, et cetera all over the country.

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Speaker 2: And she went on the view last or today? Was

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00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: it today? Yeah? Today, to make it very clear to

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Speaker 2: everybody where she stands play it.

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Speaker 9: Unity requires a certain degree of mercy, mercy and compassion

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Speaker 9: and understanding, and so knowing that a lot of people,

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Speaker 9: as I said, in our country right now, are really scared,

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Speaker 9: I wanted to take the opportunity, in the context of

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Speaker 9: that of service for unity, to say we need to

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Speaker 9: treat everyone with dignity and we need to be merciful

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Speaker 9: and to I was trying to counter the narrative that

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Speaker 9: is so so divisive and polarizing and in which people,

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Speaker 9: real people are being are being harmed.

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Speaker 2: You know, Clay, why can't you tell the people that

784
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Speaker 2: are so scared and everyone's so scared, stop being such

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00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: a lunatic. Don't be scared. It's fine, okay. And if

786
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Speaker 2: you break the law, well then you're breaking the law.

787
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: But you know, Trump is not not unmerciful to the

788
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Speaker 2: American people. This whole premise is insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be the person who causes someone to

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Speaker 1: be afraid and then claim that you need to address

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00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: the narrative for why those people are afraid. You can't

792
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: be both the cause of and uh and and and

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00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: and then claim that you have the solution for a

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00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: problem that doesn't actually exist.

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Speaker 2: I have not.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let's let's let's actually be clear here.

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Speaker 1: Trump was the first president to ever enter office supportive

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Speaker 1: of gay rights and gay marriage. Okay, no one wants

799
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Speaker 1: to talk about it because Barack Obama's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a saint, and because Hillary Clinton is supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a saint and all these They actually ran opposed to

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Speaker 1: gay marriage, they got elected, and it wasn't until double reelection.

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck, It wasn't told double

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Speaker 1: reelection that Barack Obama suddenly came out and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I support gay marriage. And if I

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Speaker 1: remember this correctly, I think Joe Biden actually stepped all

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Speaker 1: over his announcement because he went on like the Today

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Speaker 1: Show and did it before Barack Obama, did you know,

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Speaker 1: because he's Joe Biden, And whether that was intentional or not,

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Speaker 1: it actually took away some of the impact of Obama

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Speaker 1: saying it right. Wasn't Obama like fourteen or thirteen or

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Speaker 1: something like that. After double reelection he suddenly said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I support gay marriage. This was already decided, the Supreme

814
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: Court had already ruled. Trump said, hey, I'm not going

815
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: to oppose this. So this has always been a strange

816
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: line of attack. And I'm not saying you're wrong. If

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Speaker 1: you're opposed to this, make it clear. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: of all the things you could go after Trump on,

819
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Speaker 1: does he's not supportive enough of gay people? Is not

820
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Speaker 1: in the line of attack that I would embark on.

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Speaker 1: This is I think you hit on something really important.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of the Trump team listens

823
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Speaker 1: to us on a regular basis. Here's what I would say.

824
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Do not be a slave to tradition when it allows

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Speaker 1: someone like this, who is a far left wing political

826
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: activist to get up at a rostrum and criticize the president,

827
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Speaker 1: the vice president directly like this. There are many ministers,

828
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Speaker 1: there are many priests out there. If you want to

829
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Speaker 1: demonstrate the importance of faith on the day after inauguration day, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a usual thing. Go to a

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Speaker 1: service to pray for the country. There are tons of

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Speaker 1: people out there that would love the opportunity to address

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Speaker 1: the nation, that have an important message and would have

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Speaker 1: done so without being hectoring left wing activist in the

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Speaker 1: point of their delivery. Does that make sense? Like, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people we could give a platform

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Speaker 1: two of all different religious faith backgrounds that would love

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak to the president vice president hear

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Speaker 1: their message. Don't be a slave to tradition. You know

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Speaker 1: this person, you know what she's going to do. Let's

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Speaker 1: find somebody else and deliver a message that's more unifying

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Speaker 1: from a religious background. If that's the intent.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was disrespectful and exactly unfortunately what

844
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Speaker 2: you would expect from somebody who holds the political beliefs

845
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Speaker 2: that this person does. I would just note, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wonder where she stands on the obsession with abortion

847
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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party has she's supposed to be a member

848
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Speaker 2: of the Christian clergy and episcopal I don't even know

849
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: where the Episcopalian Church stands on that stuff. My dad's episcopal.

850
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Speaker 2: It's always funny in my house. My mom is Catholic.

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00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 2: My dad's a Piscopelia, but he just comes to has

852
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: spent my entire adult life going to Catholic services with us.

853
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: So anyway, I don't know where the Episcopalian Church stands

854
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: on these things. I'm not sure the Episcopalian Church knows

855
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: where it stands on some of this too.

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Speaker 1: I also think by the way your point the argument

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Speaker 1: of hey, the Bible has a really specific take on

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00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: current political controversy like trans related issues. Again, like the

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Speaker 1: Bible is an incredible work. We don't need to try

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Speaker 1: to constrain one of the parts of the Bible to claim, Oh,

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Speaker 1: this specifically dealt with whether trans people should be able

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Speaker 1: to have surgeries when they're twelve years old to change

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Speaker 1: their gender. Let's be a little bit honest. I'm uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: with the idea of anyone trying to do something like that.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? And so I really think there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of great religious leaders out there that

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Speaker 1: are desperate to have their message reach the public. And

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Speaker 1: when you allow someone like this to give them the

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Speaker 1: platform and now the views got them on buck, I

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Speaker 1: would just tell them, let's be to the Trump team.

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Speaker 1: Let's don't walk our guys into over the middle where

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Speaker 1: you know they're going to get decked by someone that

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of Americans don't like and isn't actually

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Speaker 1: representative of most religious figures in the country.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's a good a good way, a

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Speaker 2: good way to put it. And then we get to

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Speaker 2: the another comment on the view, Clay, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: throw in your direction here. Oh no, Anna Navarro, who

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Speaker 2: I think was an independent now is she is. She's

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Speaker 2: a former Republican. And I've always thought that there was

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Speaker 2: there was the saddest category of political commentators for the

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Speaker 2: last eight years has been have been those Republicans who

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Speaker 2: make a living pretending like trading on their former Republican

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Speaker 2: is to trash Republicans, right, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Project and the Bullwark and I was like, this

886
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Speaker 2: is there's just something so cowardly and unseemly about the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. Here is from that same milieu, Anna Navarro,

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Speaker 2: and listen to what she said about black musicians who

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Speaker 2: support Trump play twenty two.

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Speaker 10: The thing that really I think was spotlighting Snoop is

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Speaker 10: because of the things that Snoop Dogg said ten days

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Speaker 10: before the inaugural in twenty seventeen. And so look, if

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Speaker 10: you opposed and stood up against Trump in twenty seventeen,

894
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Speaker 10: but you were there now, if you spoke up against

895
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Speaker 10: Trump January seventh, twenty twenty one, but you were there

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Speaker 10: now applauding him like a trained seal. Donald Trump has

897
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Speaker 10: not changed, You've changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to know. You know, she can

899
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Speaker 2: do this all day long, but Clay, they don't have

900
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Speaker 2: the cultural power to shame anybody anymore who wants to

901
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Speaker 2: be pro Trump. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: I also think what she's saying is one hundred percent wrong.

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Speaker 1: Trump has spoken to the country and convinced them that

904
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Speaker 1: many of his arguments are correct. And also many of you.

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Speaker 1: I bet there are I bet there are a million

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Speaker 1: people that will listen today's showbuck who did not vote

907
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Speaker 1: Trump in twenty sixteen, And I mean, you have come along.

908
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Speaker 1: I didn't vote Trump in twenty sixteen. I voted libertarian.

909
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Speaker 1: I've said that before. I wasn't sold on what Trump

910
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Speaker 1: was selling in twenty sixteen. Some of you, from the

911
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Speaker 1: moment he came down the escalator, you've been like Trump

912
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Speaker 1: is the savior, He's the greatest politician. He's given voice

913
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Speaker 1: to some of my concerns.

914
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Speaker 2: I get it.

915
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Speaker 1: But everybody has come to voting for Trump at different times.

916
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Speaker 1: I continue to meet tons of people Buck out publicly.

917
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Speaker 1: They come up to me and they say, hey, I

918
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Speaker 1: listened to you and Buck, I never voted for Trump

919
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. By twenty four I saw

920
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: what you were talking about. I'm convinced. I meet those

921
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: people almost every single day when I'm out in the public.

922
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Speaker 1: I just met a couple of them at the inauguration.

923
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: Came up to me and said, I am at the

924
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: ball tonight. I not only voted for Trump, I donated.

925
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Speaker 1: I became convinced that his arguments were correct because of

926
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Speaker 1: what I saw. So when she's saying, hey, if you

927
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Speaker 1: were opposed to Trump in twenty seventeen, you can't support

928
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Speaker 1: him in twenty four I actually fundamentally disagree. I think

929
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Speaker 1: Trump has been proven to be right about a lot,

930
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Speaker 1: and that's why he got twelve million more votes in

931
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four than he did in twenty sixteen.

932
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Speaker 2: Maybe two handsome and charming guys are a great bridge

933
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Speaker 2: for some people to Trump is them. I'm just throwing

934
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Speaker 2: it out there, you know, maybe.

935
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Speaker 1: Sanity in general. I think we're speaking to a lot

936
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Speaker 1: of people that don't feel spoken to. And so I

937
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: think not only is Annon Navarro wrong to your point

938
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Speaker 1: to try to shame like Snoop Dogg or Nelly or

939
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Speaker 1: whoever they are for performing or Carrie Underwood at the

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Speaker 1: Trump inauguration, but more importantly, I actually think her argument

941
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Speaker 1: is super flawed because there are twelve million people at

942
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Speaker 1: least that didn't vote Trump in sixteen that voted Trump

943
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: in twenty four. Like, that's a big cadre of people

944
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Speaker 1: that have looked around and said, you know, I actually

945
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Speaker 1: agree with what he's selling.

946
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Speaker 2: It would be it's saying, it would be logical argument,

947
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Speaker 2: as I see it, for anyone to say, you know,

948
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't sold or whatever. Fine, you know, I didn't

949
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Speaker 2: feel like he did what he was supposed to do

950
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Speaker 2: in the first four years, but Biden was such a

951
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: disaster and so bad for the country that I realized

952
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Speaker 2: the error of my ways, and now I'm maga all

953
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Speaker 2: the way. That's not a storyline that, you know, befuddles me. Also,

954
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Speaker 2: it's not even just Trump. I think a lot of

955
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Speaker 2: people got a misguided version of Trump because they trusted

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Speaker 2: the legacy media. And so I don't think it's coincidental

957
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Speaker 2: that as Trump has risen, the trust in legacy media

958
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Speaker 2: has collapsed. And a lot of people out there listening

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Speaker 2: to us right now they might have bought into the

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Speaker 2: very fine people Charlottesville hoax. They might have bought into

961
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Speaker 2: the oh, he's a Nazi because they weren't really paying attention.

962
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Speaker 1: And then once you see one of those stories is untrue,

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Speaker 1: it really forces you to re examine some of your

964
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Speaker 1: prior beliefs. And I think that's what happened with over

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Speaker 1: ten million people between sixteen and twenty four.

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