Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of
Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Brett Bair says I did make
Speaker 1: a mistake when he played a deceptively edited tape during
Speaker 1: his interview with Vice President Harris. We have the greatest
Speaker 1: show ever. Today, MSNBC contributor Charlie Sykes joins us to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: The state of the race.
Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer about
Speaker 1: the Democrats twenty twenty four Senate BAP and the possible
Speaker 1: pickup opportunities.
Speaker 2: But first the news.
Speaker 3: So Molly the Orange Man, mister Trump, he came in
Speaker 3: to Fox and Friends set on the curvy couch.
Speaker 1: It feels like twenty sixteen with Donald Trump on the
Speaker 1: curvy couch with a plethora of SICCA fans.
Speaker 3: Well, would I play you what he said here?
Speaker 4: Event I have nowid we're gonna be back on the camp.
Speaker 4: Actually you got another event to go to, ste thank
Speaker 4: you for giving us some time.
Speaker 5: You know what the event I have now no, a
Speaker 5: very big event.
Speaker 3: I'm going to see Rupert Murdoch. Right, that's a big event.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you boiled that I see.
Speaker 5: It, yes, and I'm going to tell him here, I'm
Speaker 5: going to tell him something very simple, because I can't
Speaker 5: talk to anybody else. Don't put on negative commercials for
Speaker 5: twenty one days. Don't put them and don't put on
Speaker 5: their They're horrible people that come and lie. I'm going
Speaker 5: to say, Rupert, please do it this way right, and
Speaker 5: then we're gonna have a victory.
Speaker 3: Because I think everyone wants to. And you're going to
Speaker 3: out out Casey's talk. It's a great channel that we
Speaker 3: have with Tyres. Oh good, there you go. All right,
Speaker 3: mister president, thank you.
Speaker 1: This is the guy who believes that cb I should
Speaker 1: lose its broadcasting license because it put the wrong answer
Speaker 1: for a different question in the Kamala Harris sixty Minutes interview.
Speaker 1: He believes that that should happen, but he also believes
Speaker 1: that Fox should not play any negative advertisements about him
Speaker 1: or have any pundons who are not thoroughly maga. What
Speaker 1: is totally fascinating to me about this is it's funny
Speaker 1: because it's like he is clearly has this sort of
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen view of the world.
Speaker 2: So he really does believe that if he can just.
Speaker 1: Get enough positive coverage on Fox, he can win this election. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: it's a country of three hundred plus million people, and
Speaker 1: what five million watch Fox? And of those, it's probably
Speaker 1: less than five million. Of those four point nine nine
Speaker 1: to nine million of.
Speaker 2: Them are maga to the extreme.
Speaker 1: So playing a negative Trump ad does not do anything
Speaker 1: except make Trump crazy, which I guess is sort of Weirdly,
Speaker 1: the case for George Conway and Rick Wilson's audience of
Speaker 1: one ads is that really bothers him to see negative
Speaker 1: ads about himself, and perhaps that is the reason to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: Another crazy thing he said, well he was visiting the
Speaker 3: friends at Fox, is that he's going to close the
Speaker 3: education department. What's listen, Education close it.
Speaker 5: I'm going to hold them anything to do with school
Speaker 5: cusses it but also suffer from school ures.
Speaker 3: We're going to take the.
Speaker 5: Department of Education. Close it. I'm going to close it. Well,
Speaker 5: one person could be you if you decide to retire.
Speaker 4: Here's what Central guests who bothers me about that.
Speaker 1: The pushback is stupid. They're like, well, what happens if
Speaker 1: their school is teaching woke? Because we need the Department
Speaker 1: of Education to stop the teaching woke, showing that none
Speaker 1: of these morons know what the Department of Education does
Speaker 1: at the federal level. So here's what it does do.
Speaker 1: It does pel grants. It does federal education grants. So
Speaker 1: if you are in a red state where you have
Speaker 1: very low state taxes, then you get less money for
Speaker 1: education and you rely more on federal money from the
Speaker 1: federal government for education. What this will do is red
Speaker 1: states will get less money for education. Congratulations, Red States,
Speaker 1: you have played yourself. But also moreant ending the Department
Speaker 1: of Education is something that comes directly from Project twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. He'll remember Project twenty twenty five, the sort
Speaker 1: of book of legislation written by Trump's people that Trump
Speaker 1: said he knows nothing about.
Speaker 3: So out in Pennsylvania, the crucial swing state, Elon Musk
Speaker 3: is holding a bunch of town halls. End up, Molly.
Speaker 3: It seems stupidity ensued, which I'm really shocked about.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk has moved to the state of Pennsylvania because
Speaker 1: he believes it will help Donald Trump. Because he went
Speaker 1: to the University of Pennsylvania for three years and so
Speaker 1: he's practically a Pennsylvanian.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he says John all the time.
Speaker 1: So he did, in fact, like the one thing, and
Speaker 1: I wonder how much this is true. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's some a lawyer somewhere. One of his lawyers, because
Speaker 1: he is a billionaire, he's the richest person in the world,
Speaker 1: said to him something like, just you could talk about
Speaker 1: whatever you want, but don't talk about Dominion. So he
Speaker 1: got up there immediately and started talking about dominion. Dominion
Speaker 1: got a settlement, but smart Mattock is still suing Fox anyways,
Speaker 1: so dominion is very litigious, and Mosque immediately brought that up.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the great part of this story,
Speaker 1: like the great irony, is the Dominion doesn't serve Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Dominion's voting systems are based on paper balance, and Dominion
Speaker 1: really doesn't like it when you malign them in public.
Speaker 1: So Elon, you're probably going to get a call from
Speaker 1: the lawyers.
Speaker 3: That wasn't the only stupid thing he said.
Speaker 2: Another fun one Elon called Biden and Harris puppets controlled
Speaker 2: not by one but by many puppeteers.
Speaker 1: And then somehow again whatever, that's ridiculous. But my favorite
Speaker 1: part of this is that somehow he was able to
Speaker 1: work into this conversation Epstein, Epstein's client list, and he
Speaker 1: said he thinks there's going to be a number of
Speaker 1: names that are both Harris's puppeteers and Epstein's clients.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, considering the pictures of him with Jislad and
Speaker 3: Trump with both Epstein and Gieslab and there's none of KABLOA.
Speaker 3: Harris and Donald Trump. I think it's a little ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Hard to fathom, Miley.
Speaker 3: So there's this horrible analysis that suggests that twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one Texas abortion bin results in an increase in infant
Speaker 3: deaths in the state. What are you seeing here?
Speaker 1: So? I really wanted to cover this because it just
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a ton of coverage. It's an analysis that
Speaker 1: it's from pro publica. It's a pediatric study comes out
Speaker 1: of the Bloomberg School. It's published from the Bloomberg School
Speaker 1: of Public Health at Johns Hopkins, And basically what it
Speaker 1: says is that in the year of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: when SB eight, which was the ban on abortion, happened
Speaker 1: a year before Trump's Supreme Court over turned Roby Wade.
Speaker 1: In that year, there was a twelve point nine percent
Speaker 1: increase in infant death in Texas, and what that increase
Speaker 1: was was women who have to carry babies who were
Speaker 1: very likely to die, and so the numbers just jumped up,
Speaker 1: and it was in the first twenty An analysis of
Speaker 1: neonatal deaths in the first twenty eight days found this
Speaker 1: pattern of one hundred and forty five excess deaths on
Speaker 1: the period right after the post policy. So basically, these
Speaker 1: women are walking coffins. They are being forced to carry
Speaker 1: babies that have a very high likelihood of dying, and
Speaker 1: then they are delivering these babies only to have them die.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of anti choicers will say
Speaker 1: that the quote unquote life of an egg plus the
Speaker 1: sperm of a five celled blasticist is the same as
Speaker 1: the life of a fully developed baby. But that's bullshit,
Speaker 1: and we know it, and I know what it's like
Speaker 1: to carry a child, and I think it's really just
Speaker 1: so fucked up that this new law is basically making
Speaker 1: so women have to carry babies they know are gonna die,
Speaker 1: birth that baby, take care of that baby until it dies.
Speaker 1: It just is completely insane and in any other country
Speaker 1: this would not be happening, and so I just it's just.
Speaker 2: Appalling so I wanted to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Charlie Sikes is the author of the newsletter to the
Speaker 1: Contrary and the book How the Right Lost Its Mind
Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Too Fast Politics. Charlie Sykes, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm okay. I feel like you're asking me.
Speaker 1: This because my first cousin has been tweeting about me
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 2: Is that why? Or is there another reason?
Speaker 6: It was sad? Of course there's other things going on
Speaker 6: in the world, but you know, your family drama is
Speaker 6: always top of my mind.
Speaker 2: It's all good. You know, we're complicated.
Speaker 6: Is this your convoluted way of saying, fuck that guy?
Speaker 1: I honestly kind of yeah, Okay, I like my family,
Speaker 1: but I don't have You know, if you're gonna go
Speaker 1: work for Jill Stein, we're probably not gonna be no.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that is a tell. Once you've gone full
Speaker 6: Jill Stein, everything else is sort of just gloss.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's not a nuanced you know, like I liked Nikki Haley,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to vote for Paris, but I'm not
Speaker 1: really on board with her.
Speaker 2: That is a little more nuanced.
Speaker 1: This is I can't Yeah, so early voting out of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about it because it's really good.
Speaker 6: Well, you tell me about it, because I have to
Speaker 6: say that I've kind of been tuning out the daily
Speaker 6: noise about all of this stuff, the poly market, the
Speaker 6: ups and downs, checking my pulse rate every minute. Tell
Speaker 6: me some good news. I could do some good news.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a congressman from Pennsylvania who's very,
Speaker 1: very smart, and he was saying, I said, you know
Speaker 1: what's happening, and he said, we keep having to change
Speaker 1: our plans because Harris keeps coming down here so much.
Speaker 6: Well, it's like that in Wisconsin. Was she did three
Speaker 6: cities yesterday here in Wisconsin. She's coming back next week.
Speaker 6: This is the new normal for Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: And in some ways it's absolutely the opposite of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Right, oh, yes, exactly. Somebody tweeted out, you know, Hillary
Speaker 6: Clinton was criticized for not campaigning in Wisconsin, and now
Speaker 6: Kamala is being criticized for coming in campaigning in Wisconsin
Speaker 6: as opposed to going to a white tied dinner in
Speaker 6: New York where the Catholic Church be clowned itself.
Speaker 1: You know, as a Jew, I try to stay out
Speaker 1: of that kind of thing. But it did seem bad.
Speaker 6: It was very bad. If I could rant about this
Speaker 6: for just a second before we get to the Pennsylvania numbers.
Speaker 6: I actually know Cardinal Dolan. He used to be the
Speaker 6: Archbishop of Milwaukee. There are a few people that I
Speaker 6: like and respect more than Cardinal Dolan. And so it
Speaker 6: was so humiliar and embarrassing to watch him sitting there
Speaker 6: as Donald Trump told one offensively, deeply unfunny joke after another.
Speaker 6: And I'm sorry to use the word normalization again, but
Speaker 6: pull back for a second. Here you have a man
Speaker 6: who is a convicted felon who tried to overturn a
Speaker 6: free and fair election, somebody who is convicted for paying
Speaker 6: hush money to a porn star, who has also been
Speaker 6: found legally liable for sexual abuse sexual assault, which a
Speaker 6: judge said was in fact rape, and there he is
Speaker 6: standing there like a normal candidate at this Catholic event
Speaker 6: to raise money for Catholic charities, as if he's just
Speaker 6: a guy. It's almost as if none of it happened,
Speaker 6: That none of the crimes, none of the misconduct, none
Speaker 6: of the pussy grabbing, none of the rapes ever happened,
Speaker 6: and everybody's yucking it up as he tells jokes about
Speaker 6: Barack Whussane Obama, and it was a cringe worthy moment,
Speaker 6: even in a deeply ringe worthy time.
Speaker 1: Yes, true, And it just felt like we saw Barbara
Speaker 1: Comstock how to tweet about this, that he was like cursing,
Speaker 1: reading very quietly, looking very sweaty.
Speaker 6: Oh it was flop sweaty bad. It was just bad.
Speaker 6: And watching you know the pictures, you know, watching all
Speaker 6: of these dignitaries treating him, you know, I mean laughing
Speaker 6: or pretending to laugh at these crude and vile insults.
Speaker 6: This was one of the better decisions that Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: has made not to go there, not to be part
Speaker 6: of this. Hey, you know, our differences really aren't all
Speaker 6: that great when you know what, they are fucking huge,
Speaker 6: and this is not the moment to pretend that they're
Speaker 6: not big.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's really true. And that was what I
Speaker 1: heard from Barbara Comstock. And also I think everything you
Speaker 1: just said is so right and for religious people, but
Speaker 1: it also does feel like it's sort of it's got
Speaker 1: this kind of tittin pot dictator thing.
Speaker 6: It was this bizarre kabuki theater. Jonathan Last has a
Speaker 6: piece in the bulwark, because you know, against kabuki normality,
Speaker 6: Trump weaponizes democracy's traditions against it. Absolutely right. And I'm
Speaker 6: looking at this picture. There's Cardinal Dolan, and again this
Speaker 6: is somebody that I know very well standing next to
Speaker 6: Donald Trump with his fist up in the air, and
Speaker 6: it's just it's a pathetic moment. It's a pathetic moment.
Speaker 6: It feels like a beat, just a betrayal of fundamental values.
Speaker 6: Cardinal Dolan is a serious person. Okay, he's first of all,
Speaker 6: he's an incredibly decent person. I'm sorry to go off
Speaker 6: on it, but I remember sitting with him doing an
Speaker 6: interview in the Before Times. This was during the Obama presidency,
Speaker 6: and he was about to go to New York and
Speaker 6: he said, one of the most important things is for
Speaker 6: the church to stay true to its principles and its beliefs,
Speaker 6: no matter what the cause. And so for example, he said,
Speaker 6: if in fact, the federal government ever required us to
Speaker 6: perform abortions, we would shut down all of the Catholics before.
Speaker 2: We would do that.
Speaker 6: And I said, you would shut down the hospitals. I
Speaker 6: said yes, because you know, our mission and our principles
Speaker 6: are so important and there he is, standing next to
Speaker 6: Donald fucking Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there he is.
Speaker 1: It's funny because one of the people from Trump World,
Speaker 1: who's sort of fallen out of favor, was saying to
Speaker 1: me Trump would never be an abortion First of all,
Speaker 1: again he already has, but sure, he was like, it's
Speaker 1: too much something that they think of as something they
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 2: You know, they need to be able to do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, at least they need to say it. So
Speaker 6: you're going to give me some some good news out
Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, it's nine days of early voting in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: seven hundred and ninety one thousand, eight hundred and four
Speaker 1: votes Cats forty eight percent Democrat, forty percent GOP thirty
Speaker 1: four zero point one percent independent. The DEM edge is
Speaker 1: now almost three hundred thousand votes. That's a plus eight.
Speaker 1: So that's good. I mean, look, you know, who knows
Speaker 1: what will happen. We still have many days. But it's
Speaker 1: just a little bit of good news.
Speaker 6: And there were very dramatic early numbers out of Georgia as.
Speaker 2: Well in North Carolina too. Nuts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, maybe this means a lot, maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 6: We just don't know. And by the way, this is
Speaker 6: why I'm leaving the country in a couple of weeks. Yes,
Speaker 6: I know, I'm actually going to be gone on election
Speaker 6: night because I don't want to do this. You know,
Speaker 6: what are the exit polls from you know, South Dakota
Speaker 6: saying it's like no, no, just god, wait until we
Speaker 6: actually know something. So I'm actually going to be in
Speaker 6: France because I can't take all of the disinformation and
Speaker 6: the spin. Speaking of disinformation, I bet this is your
Speaker 6: favorite story too, this story about the manipulation of polymarket.
Speaker 6: You know, these these predictive things where they have the
Speaker 6: betting and everything. They get all this attention and creates
Speaker 6: all this vibe that people, you know, smart people are
Speaker 6: putting money on Donald Trump winning. Polymarket of course is
Speaker 6: this thing created by Peter t and then they hire
Speaker 6: Nate Silver. Well, it turns out that you have some
Speaker 6: of these anonymous Trumpets who have been betting tens of
Speaker 6: millions of dollars on Trump winning, skewing the results. Now
Speaker 6: pretty good indication of somebody has you know, way too
Speaker 6: much money to be able to spend. For sure, I
Speaker 6: do not want to go down the rabbit hole of
Speaker 6: you know, unskewed poles and stuff. But there does seem
Speaker 6: to be this sort of psychological warfare trying to make
Speaker 6: everyone lose their minds by coming up with these completely
Speaker 6: bogus predictions and models that mean nothing, that tell you nothing,
Speaker 6: and just fuck with your head.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I also would add that, you know, all of the
Speaker 1: sort of evidence we have that supports Trump right now
Speaker 1: is a lot of poles.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We don't have any other sort of thing that shows
Speaker 1: a Trump advantage.
Speaker 6: Right, No, there's nothing tangible in fact, the tangible stuff
Speaker 6: or of the numbers you just mentioned. And there have
Speaker 6: been a number of reports about the status of the
Speaker 6: ground games between the Democrats and Republicans, and I have
Speaker 6: to tell you that you know, what I'm hearing out
Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania and Michigan is exactly what's happening here in Wisconsin, where,
Speaker 6: for whatever reason, the Democrats have a tremendous edge when
Speaker 6: it comes to that get out the vote ground game.
Speaker 6: Now again, will it make a difference, we don't know,
Speaker 6: But in a toss up election, you know, in a
Speaker 6: jump ball election, that could make all the difference. And
Speaker 6: I will tell you that the difference in terms of
Speaker 6: just the granular campaign operations is really one of the
Speaker 6: stories of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I hope, yes, it's funny because I was getting booked
Speaker 1: for Election Day TV and I was thinking about you
Speaker 1: going to France. I was like, it's so smart to
Speaker 1: go to France. But yeah, I think that's totally right.
Speaker 1: And again, we don't know what's happening on the ground,
Speaker 1: but we're certainly seeing. And the thing I was struck
Speaker 1: by was Harris did, in fact go this week on
Speaker 1: Fox News with Brett Baher Walls has been on Fox Sunday.
Speaker 2: Two weeks in a row, so it's not as if.
Speaker 1: There isn't some president for this, but I was still
Speaker 1: pretty surprised.
Speaker 6: It was a big surprise. It was a high risk,
Speaker 6: high reward move on her part. And so talk about
Speaker 6: how the way the narrative has changed, because remember when
Speaker 6: everybody was pounding on her, you know, why are they
Speaker 6: hiding her? Why isn't she doing these interviews? Well, she's
Speaker 6: doing a lot of interviews, and I don't know whether
Speaker 6: you've noticed, but she's getting better at it too.
Speaker 2: Yes much.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Donald Trump is really going back into the bunker.
Speaker 6: I mean it's really kind of amazing. I mean, you
Speaker 6: run through the list of all of the interviews that
Speaker 6: he's either bailed out of or refused sixty minutes, the
Speaker 6: CNN Debate, the CNBC News interview, an NBC News interview
Speaker 6: with Christine Romans, this NRA rally in Georgia for the
Speaker 6: Second Amendment, which he just bailed on, I mean, one
Speaker 6: after another, and apparently there are reports that he's bailing
Speaker 6: on some of these interviews because he's just exhausted.
Speaker 2: He's worn out, Yeah, and low energy.
Speaker 6: Well, and after his performance in that Bloomberg interview, which
Speaker 6: was absolutely just you know, a face plant incoherent ramble
Speaker 6: where and he was clearly very unhappy that he was there,
Speaker 6: It is interesting. So you kind of get a sense
Speaker 6: that she's getting a certain she's getting, you know, a
Speaker 6: certain momentum. She had some really good one liners yesterday
Speaker 6: in Lacrosse, Wisconsin for some hecklers. She said, I think
Speaker 6: you're at the wrong rally. I think you meant to
Speaker 6: go to the smaller.
Speaker 2: One another road. Yeah, that was very good.
Speaker 6: Whereas he's getting worse and worse and worse, and his
Speaker 6: aides are i think, trying to shove him back into
Speaker 6: the basement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and with good reason. When we saw him
Speaker 2: on the Kurby couch today.
Speaker 1: He was not covering himself with glory at the Bloomberg
Speaker 1: interview was really embarrassing and he kind of got over
Speaker 1: his skis and then he was like, I looked you
Speaker 1: up and you're a Trump hater. I could have not
Speaker 1: calm here today. I think it's tough. And again, this
Speaker 1: is the irony of this entire campaign, right, he ran
Speaker 1: for so long on Biden's age.
Speaker 2: This guy is fucking old.
Speaker 6: Yes he is. And I say that as somebody who's
Speaker 6: much older than you that to think about it, that
Speaker 6: this is the oldest man ever to run for president
Speaker 6: at this point, and his aide and we're getting reports
Speaker 6: that he's too exhausted to do interviews and he's wearing out. Now,
Speaker 6: what's interesting is that he's come up with a way
Speaker 6: to explain the fact that he can't put together a
Speaker 6: coherent thought. He calls it the weave. This is the weave,
Speaker 6: and everybody else is going, what are you talking about, man?
Speaker 6: What unripened bananas are firing off in your prefrontal cortex.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just terrible. Yeah, and yet it's not
Speaker 6: getting nearly the kind of handwringing obsessiveness that was aimed
Speaker 6: at Joe Biden. Now I happen to think it was
Speaker 6: justifiable now in retrospect to aim it at Joe Biden.
Speaker 6: But if that is the big overriding issue of the
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four campaign about the fitness of Joe Biden,
Speaker 6: is cognitive decline, alleged cognitive decline. Why is there not
Speaker 6: the same Oh my god, what's happening to Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: And why is that It's obviously part of some ship,
Speaker 1: right or is there some other thing I'm missing here?
Speaker 6: I think that again, the media continues to not know
Speaker 6: how to cover Donald Trump. I think that there's a
Speaker 6: certain exhaustion, a certain Okay, it's no one cares, nothing
Speaker 6: makes any difference. The Republican Party is not going to
Speaker 6: replace Donald Trump. And with Donald Trump after nine years,
Speaker 6: no matter how outrageous he is, there's kind of that
Speaker 6: thing in the back of your mind where you go
Speaker 6: there he goes again, or right, this is who the
Speaker 6: same old, same old, when in fact it's getting worse
Speaker 6: and worse and more alarming and more alarming. So at
Speaker 6: the very moment when the alarm should be getting louder
Speaker 6: and the flairs should be getting brighter. There's still that
Speaker 6: sort of let's just go through the motions of pretending
Speaker 6: this is a normal election, as I'm sorry to say
Speaker 6: my good friend Cardinal Dolan and the Cat Church did
Speaker 6: in New York last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's also just a fair amount of hedging
Speaker 1: from people like Cardinal Dolan, right, that maybe this guy
Speaker 1: will win and he's going to have to just suck
Speaker 1: up to him.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: There's a fantastic piece that your listeners really ought to
Speaker 6: look up by Susan Glasser in The New Yorker where
Speaker 6: she talks about why are all the billionaires falling into
Speaker 6: line behind Donald Trump? And many of these billionaires had
Speaker 6: bailed on him after January sixth, regard him as a horrible,
Speaker 6: odious person. She quotes them my name, And yet they've
Speaker 6: kind of figured, well, you know he's going to be
Speaker 6: elected president. Why fall on our swords. Let's go along
Speaker 6: with it because he's transactional and how bad can it be? Right?
Speaker 6: And you want to talk about historical analogies where the
Speaker 6: industrialists thought that they could work and contain or moderate
Speaker 6: the extremist in power. Hasn't worked in the past, but
Speaker 6: you never know. Yeah, billionaires always have tremendous confidence in
Speaker 6: their own abilities, don't they.
Speaker 1: So the state of Pennsylvania is getting two white men
Speaker 1: who are very fancy and ivy League educated for the
Speaker 1: next five days, jd Vance and Elon Musk. I mean,
Speaker 1: is this a good play for Pennsylvania voters? Like remember
Speaker 1: Jade Vance ran twenty points twenty points behind Dwine in
Speaker 1: his Senate candidacy and he got money poured into it.
Speaker 6: By Peter Keel. No, it is interesting. So the Elon
Speaker 6: Musk thing is you know, I mean, this is you know,
Speaker 6: Trump really worships Elon Muska. He had an event in
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania where he was basically costplaying a presidential candidate himself,
Speaker 6: and it was really a disturbing glimpse into what's happened
Speaker 6: to the mind of Elon Musk, where he's actually pushing
Speaker 6: the conspiracy theories about dominion voting systems. By the way,
Speaker 6: a company that has kind of an interesting track record
Speaker 6: of being litigious when they're lying about Yes. So, I
Speaker 6: don't know, I mean, there's there's there's a certain class
Speaker 6: of people that will be attracted to the wealth and
Speaker 6: the celebrity of Elon Musk. But I'm guessing that they
Speaker 6: were already in Trump's camp. Meanwhile, you have Kamala Harris,
Speaker 6: who is rolling out Barack Obama. I'm Michelle Obama there campaigning.
Speaker 6: I see that Bill Clinton is campaigning in North Carolina.
Speaker 6: And one of the most remarkable stories of this campaign
Speaker 6: that you and I have talked about before, the Harris
Speaker 6: campaign is really quite serious in reaching out to disaffected Republicans.
Speaker 6: Haley voters, big big event in Pennsylvania. Yeah, she's coming back,
Speaker 6: or at least scheduled to come back to Wisconsin next
Speaker 6: week with Liz Cheney going for that sliver of votes.
Speaker 6: Those Republicans who look at Donald Trump and go, no,
Speaker 6: I just can't do that. It's just not worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you too, right, that's me.
Speaker 6: You know, this is very different than four years ago.
Speaker 6: I think four years ago there was a we don't
Speaker 6: need you former Republicans. Now it's like, no, those people
Speaker 6: who voted for Nicki Haley in the primary, who are
Speaker 6: looking at Mike Penn saying I'm not voting for this guy,
Speaker 6: or listening to somebody like General Millie who says this
Speaker 6: guy is a total fascist. I mean, there's some sort
Speaker 6: of moment here, you know, Molly, where you have the
Speaker 6: top general in the United States, former top general saying,
Speaker 6: this is the most dangerous man that we've ever had
Speaker 6: in this office. He's a total fascist. Attention ought to
Speaker 6: be paid, an attention ought to be paid by people
Speaker 6: who would normally always pull the lever next to the
Speaker 6: R guy. By I'm dating myself because we don't pull
Speaker 6: levers anymore, do we do we?
Speaker 1: I think there's some lever pulling, but not in quite
Speaker 1: the same way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm in it to be paid. Yes, very true.
Speaker 6: So the Harris campaign is quite serious about this reaching
Speaker 6: out to these voters. And I have to say that
Speaker 6: with every single Republican that comes out in favor of her,
Speaker 6: it becomes easier. So you have Charlie Dent from Pennsylvania
Speaker 6: form a Republican congressman. I mean, the list is getting
Speaker 6: longer and longer. And I have to say that if
Speaker 6: you would have asked me six months ago, would those
Speaker 6: disaffected Republicans feel comfortab with Kamala Harris, I would would have.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't know. I don't know. It's a remarkable turn
Speaker 6: of events and a remarkable accomplishment by this campaign, which
Speaker 6: is quite serious about creating this big ten coalition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
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Speaker 7: Molly, it's good to be back. Thanks for all the
Speaker 7: good work you've been doing and are continuing to do.
Speaker 3: You're the best.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: So let's go and talk about the Senate races. The map,
Speaker 1: it's not a good map, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. So do you want to start by talking
Speaker 1: about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7: Sure, well, let me just before we start intoe each
Speaker 7: state how important it is for us to keep the Senate.
Speaker 7: If Trump is elected president, God forbid, but he will.
Speaker 7: Then if they have the Senate, my guess is that
Speaker 7: you'll see resignations of people like I've heard this in
Speaker 7: some right wing journals, right resignations of some of our
Speaker 7: Supreme Court justices for much older, and they'll fill them
Speaker 7: up with right wing the people who are in their thirties.
Speaker 7: And if Kanalla wins, and I hope and believe she will,
Speaker 7: but if they have the Senate, they'll block everything she does.
Speaker 7: So keeping the Democratic Senate is great. And the good
Speaker 7: news is, even though we have a very tough map,
Speaker 7: we are doing well in race after race after race
Speaker 7: because our candidates are really in touch with people. They
Speaker 7: know what people want. McConnell and the Republicans have run
Speaker 7: a lot of very you know, wealthy billionaires, but who
Speaker 7: really don't know the state and don't care about people.
Speaker 7: So we're in good shape to keep the Senate. We're
Speaker 7: feeling you know, it's it's tough, it's close. It's hand
Speaker 7: to hand combat, if you will. But we're doing well
Speaker 7: and I'm going to go over a few of the states.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 7: We have a chance to win Texas and send Ted
Speaker 7: Cruz back home. When the people of Texas are asked,
Speaker 7: what is the word that they most associate that comes
Speaker 7: to mind when they hear the name Ted Cruz, you
Speaker 7: know what they say, can cool? Do you remember during
Speaker 7: the deep freeze in Texas when there is no electricity
Speaker 7: it was ten degrees he was on our way to
Speaker 7: Kancu and having a nice vacation. They remember it. More importantly,
Speaker 7: he is one of the most partisan, nasty, anti partisan
Speaker 7: people that they've ever had in the Senate. Here's what
Speaker 7: Lindsey Graham one said. You know, if Ted were found
Speaker 7: dead on the Senate floor, there'd be ninety nine suspects.
Speaker 3: That was a joke, but.
Speaker 7: It shows you how disliked he is, even by his
Speaker 7: Republican colleagues. And we have a great can today. His
Speaker 7: name is Colin Allread. He was elected president of the
Speaker 7: class of twenty eighteen won and beaten at the Republican
Speaker 7: sessions in a Republican district, and he's very popular. And
Speaker 7: one of the best things he has going for him
Speaker 7: is he's a football player. He played for the Houston
Speaker 7: Oilers and even more importantly paid for Baylor. That's the
Speaker 7: big evangelical university in Texas, and so the evangelicals a
Speaker 7: lot of them know him and like him, even though
Speaker 7: they usually.
Speaker 3: Don't vote for us.
Speaker 7: That and if we pick up that seat, it helps
Speaker 7: ensure we keep the Senate even if we were to
Speaker 7: lose a seat, which I don't think we will and
Speaker 7: I hope we won't.
Speaker 2: The mansion set, I think is probably gone.
Speaker 7: That seat is gone. So we can't afford to lose
Speaker 7: any other of our existing seats less we pick up
Speaker 7: a seat and beat a Republican and this is a
Speaker 7: prime area. Another place where we have to keep the
Speaker 7: seat is Bob Casey over in Pennsylvania. Casey tends to
Speaker 7: his state so carefully, but he also really cares about kids.
Speaker 7: He was one of the main leaders for the Child
Speaker 7: Tax Credit, which took half the kids in America out
Speaker 7: of poverty during COVID. He realizes the struggles of the
Speaker 7: middle class. And he's also talked about how so many
Speaker 7: of the companies that sell consumer goods take advantage of
Speaker 7: consumers by charging the same price and then shrinking what's
Speaker 7: in the package. You know, cookies instead of twelve but
Speaker 7: they charge you the same price. A loaf of bread
Speaker 7: there's twelve ounces instead of sixteen, they charge of the price.
Speaker 7: So he's great.
Speaker 2: Shrink flation.
Speaker 7: Shrink flation, you got it, That's what he called it.
Speaker 7: Tammy Baldwin over in Wisconisin has been a leader in
Speaker 7: getting manufacturing back to America. She was the lead in
Speaker 7: passing marriage equality. Personally matters to me. My daughter's married
Speaker 7: to a beautiful young lady, but she's a dynamic, hard
Speaker 7: working person and she needs help. Shareed Brown. I don't
Speaker 7: think there's anybody who helps working people more than share It.
Speaker 7: I'll win so many millions and millions of union members.
Speaker 7: We're going to lose their pensions because the bankers had
Speaker 7: invested them poorly and they lost money, and they said,
Speaker 7: you got tough luck. Shared worked with me and we
Speaker 7: got all these pensions restored. I remember being near Buffalo
Speaker 7: and the big guy with a very strong looking man
Speaker 7: with tattoos and everything else came over to me and
Speaker 7: start crying, and he said, I'm going to I just
Speaker 7: heard I'm going to lose ninety percent of my pension.
Speaker 7: He says, I don't care about me. I'll take care
Speaker 7: of myself, but that pension, my parents and my kids
Speaker 7: depend on it. Well, shared worked hard to get it back.
Speaker 7: And Alissa Slotkin is in Michigan. She's taking the seat
Speaker 7: of Debbie stabanaw trying to take the seat of Debbie
Speaker 7: Stabinau who not running again. And Slotkin is one of
Speaker 7: our experts on foreign policy. She actually worked in the CIA,
Speaker 7: she worked in other places. She's a good, strong progressive
Speaker 7: voice on foreign policy. So when your people need help,
Speaker 7: when your people ask, these are five races that are
Speaker 7: close where people sending in their contributions would make a
Speaker 7: huge difference and help us keep the Senate, which, as
Speaker 7: I mentioned earlier, is so important to America.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about Tester the Montana Center race.
Speaker 7: You know, no one's done more for Montana than Tester.
Speaker 7: The opponent to radagainst him, Well, he says he's a
Speaker 7: cattle rancher in Montana, but knows she he is. His name.
Speaker 7: The amazing thing about it and he has a bullet
Speaker 7: in his arm. He was a veteran, and people I
Speaker 7: respect that. I think we respect that he was a veteran.
Speaker 7: But he said he got the bullet in his arm
Speaker 7: fighting in Iraq, protecting his soldiers. It's not true, as
Speaker 7: the Army record show. He got the bullet in himself
Speaker 7: hiking get this molly hiking in the National Park and
Speaker 7: he accidentally shot himself, and he denied it when that
Speaker 7: first came out, but we got the park ranger records
Speaker 7: sure enough, that's what happened. So this guy's not a
Speaker 7: straight shooter. He's not really a Montana and tester knows
Speaker 7: and breathes Montana. He's been trying to prevent foreign companies
Speaker 7: from buying up land. He's gone after the monopoly, the
Speaker 7: oligopoly on cattle, you know, on meat packing, because that
Speaker 7: hurts the farmers of Montana. And he worked hard. And
Speaker 7: you know a lot of the kids graduate from college
Speaker 7: in Montana and they don't know what they're going to do.
Speaker 7: It's stuff to find a job. He helped make Missoula, Montana,
Speaker 7: one of the first tech hubs in America. We passed
Speaker 7: a law on the Chips and Science Bill that said,
Speaker 7: the tech business shouldn't just be in New York, in
Speaker 7: San Francisco and Boston, you know, to be in some
Speaker 7: of the smaller cities. And Missoula got the biggest tech
Speaker 7: in the country. So that's all helping us win because
Speaker 7: our candidates, including John Tester, have done so much for people.
Speaker 7: We have a very good ground game. It's a large
Speaker 7: Native American population. This guy sheehe against Tester, he said
Speaker 7: more or less, he said, two weeks ago, Oh, Indians,
Speaker 7: they wake up at LA eight am. Drug that infuriated
Speaker 7: the Native American community. So they're rallying for Tester as well.
Speaker 1: Can you talk to me about someone like Dan Osborne,
Speaker 1: who he's a Democrat or he is an independent, but
Speaker 1: he's really a Democrat.
Speaker 7: Well, he hasn't told us he's really a Democrat. He's
Speaker 7: running his own independent campaign, but he's neck and neck
Speaker 7: in the polls with deb Fisher, the incumbent. He's a
Speaker 7: little bit like John Fetterman. I remember him, he's now
Speaker 7: in the Senate. You know, he's an individualist. He's running
Speaker 7: as an independent, but I sure think that he's you know,
Speaker 7: he really getting lights by the people of Nebrasko he
Speaker 7: is not a Democrat, but.
Speaker 1: He's sort of picked this way to run. That's a
Speaker 1: little bit unusual. But he is in a very red state.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's in a red state. But he's talking about
Speaker 7: his independence, and Nebraska has always shown an independent streak.
Speaker 7: They had a Republican named George Norris who is one
Speaker 7: of the leaders in the New Deal and broke with
Speaker 7: his party to help Rosto to the New Deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also think Nebraska's second district where Republicans
Speaker 1: tried to take away their electoral college point. You have
Speaker 1: to assume they're mad about that.
Speaker 7: They are, and there was a very courageous state senator
Speaker 7: who said, I'm not going to let that happen just
Speaker 7: for these partisan purposes. And yes, it's aroused people. We'll
Speaker 7: see what happens. Not involved in this that race. He
Speaker 7: wants to stay. It's an independent and God bless him.
Speaker 1: Though not old, you are experienced and you have been
Speaker 1: through a number of election cycles. This in my mind,
Speaker 1: feels to be one of the most high stakes I've
Speaker 1: ever lived through.
Speaker 7: Absolutely. You know, if people think they have nothing at stake,
Speaker 7: wait till Donald becomes president and helps his wealthy friends,
Speaker 7: does nothing to help working people. Sides with the powerful
Speaker 7: interests agains stablished working people. People will regret not voting
Speaker 7: if they stayed home or God forbid voting for Trump.
Speaker 7: So we're on Treymali and thank you for putting me
Speaker 7: on your nice podcast.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Speaker Johnson should bring the house
Speaker 1: back for more FEMA money?
Speaker 7: He said he's not. We Democrats pushed for more FEMA
Speaker 7: money in the September budget resolution that we had many
Speaker 7: of the Republicans blocked it. We're going to try as
Speaker 7: soon as we He has the ability not to have
Speaker 7: us come back, but as soon as we do come
Speaker 7: back to our top priority is going to be to
Speaker 7: get that relief money for the people, not only of Florida,
Speaker 7: but other states are waiting as well.
Speaker 2: At this moment, what do you think Harris needs to
Speaker 2: do to seal the deal.
Speaker 7: I think she's got to go after Trump very strongly
Speaker 7: and show it a bit President TB All.
Speaker 2: Right, Thank you, Senator Schumer.
Speaker 7: Thanks Molly, great to drop to you. Thanks their EMag.
Speaker 3: No moment Jesse Cannon, Molly, you may remember mister Trump
Speaker 3: as the defender of women. He's the father of IVF
Speaker 3: On Fox and friends this morning, eg get some more
Speaker 3: ridiculousness with this ensued le'll be played for you. You
Speaker 3: look at your positives.
Speaker 4: Obviously with men, it's through the roof you make and
Speaker 4: gains in Hispanics Blacks.
Speaker 3: I understand that.
Speaker 4: But when the doors close and the team sits around you,
Speaker 4: they say, mister President, you got to do better with women.
Speaker 4: That's where she's the Kamala Harris is excelling with women.
Speaker 3: Is one move to get.
Speaker 4: Women on your side is to get a bodka out,
Speaker 4: Malani out and especially Nicki Haley out in these final
Speaker 4: eighteen days. Is that something that's coming out of your
Speaker 4: strategy session.
Speaker 5: I think I do very well with women, and I
Speaker 5: think it's all nonsense. I see the polls and we
Speaker 5: do well.
Speaker 3: What about the do have one issue?
Speaker 5: You have the issue of abortion without abortion. The women
Speaker 5: love me now, they like me anyway because what I've
Speaker 5: done is so good. I've taken this issue out of
Speaker 5: the federal government and put it back to the states
Speaker 5: where they're voting. And I believe in exceptions that most
Speaker 5: people do for rape and all, you know, rape, incest,
Speaker 5: life of the mother. But I've done so and I
Speaker 5: think I've taken an issue question. Let me just say
Speaker 5: that issue has torn our country apart for fifty two years.
Speaker 5: No legal scholar, no Democrat, Republican, no liberal Conservatives wanted
Speaker 5: it to be in Congress. They wanted it to be
Speaker 5: out of the federal government. I got it out through
Speaker 5: six very brave judges who were also brilliant. And now
Speaker 5: they're voting. Ohio voted, and it's actually a very liberal vote, Kansas,
Speaker 5: very liberal vote.
Speaker 3: But people are voting.
Speaker 5: They wanted it to be in the states and a vote.
Speaker 3: Of the people.
Speaker 5: But that issue maybe some women, but they're going to.
Speaker 3: Find I'm going to do a subsistent question.
Speaker 5: Well, the country's coming together.
Speaker 3: Now over there, look at him Weave.
Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting about this is that here
Speaker 1: we have from news hosts who are trying to basically
Speaker 1: work as campaign surrogates for him rights right, But I
Speaker 1: mean they're saying, well, you know, you really need to
Speaker 1: appeal to women. What about you know, here are some suggestions,
Speaker 1: by the way, not how any of this is supposed
Speaker 1: to work.
Speaker 2: Instead of like being.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, that's a good idea, he's like, no, you're wrong,
Speaker 1: He's like, actually, I do great with women.
Speaker 2: Except when it comes to abortion.
Speaker 1: So clearly someone has explained to him that he's not
Speaker 1: doing well with women, and the only way he could
Speaker 1: hear this is they're like, it's abortion. It's not you,
Speaker 1: it's abortion. And just to see him completely unable to
Speaker 1: take any kind of constructive criticism, even when it's from
Speaker 1: a real sycophant, is pretty amazing. And in the end,
Speaker 1: you know, he just couldn't hear it. And even when
Speaker 1: it was like couched in just so much much chickophan, see,
Speaker 1: he still was unable to hear the truth, which is
Speaker 1: amazing but also a pretty good sign of like, it's
Speaker 1: not anything that surprises any of us, right, sure, isn't
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