1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hi, saren, Yeah, 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: what's up, Elizabeth Done? You know it's ridiculous? Oh boy 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: do I Yeah? Okay. In nine two, the Today Show debut, 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: but the ratings were kind of poor, so that now 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: we're decided to bring in new talent. The new talent 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: was a chimpanzee. Chimpanzee. His name was Jay Fred Muggs. Now, 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: this obviously isn't something people are cool with it. Like 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: you're a trained journalists, You're like, don't bring a chimpanzee 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: and make him sitting next to me on the morning show. 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: So one guy quit, another guy's like, I'll take the job. 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: His name was David Garaway. David Garraway was like cool 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: with the monkey, you know whatever ape sitting there in 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: his suit man pictured. This ape looks like he's dressed 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: to go play golf. Chimpanzee not an ape. Chimpanzee? Are 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: they apes? Yeah? If it doesn't have a tail tonighte alright, 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: monkeys have tails anyway. So the chimpanzee, jay Fred Muggs, 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: who's dressed like a banker or he's going to golf. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: He's sitting there on the Day Show every morning, they 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: teach this mony monkey sorry ape to read. He can 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: read five go on for years. Not only that, they 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: give him a girlfriend. He eventually gets replaced because David 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Garraway starts getting jealous. And now the show gets saved 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: by the ape, right, But Dave Garraway is like, man, 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: I can't believe the chimpanzee co stars, so he starts 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: spiking the apes drink It's orange juice with Benza dream 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: and he's waiting for this Benny hopped up chimpanzee to 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: do something wild in like nine fifties morning TV, which 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: eventually he does. The ape bites David Garry now on 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the air, so then the handlers of the ape try 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: to sue him for trying to get the hate fired. 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: It's a whole thing, but I'll tell you there's a 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: happy ending. The ape eventually goes and retires with his 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: living girlfriend Phoebe b b B and they in Citrus Park, Florida. 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: How much Benza Benza dreen orange juice? Have you been drinking? 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: I just saw that this is like a timeline. Jay 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Fred Muggs, the ape that saved the Today Show. There 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: would have been no Today's Show without him because the 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: show would have been canceled, and he's what saved it. 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't think this happened. I inc a wild animal 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: hopped up on goofballs miting someone on TV. Did not happen, 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: but go off. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Wow, that's ridiculous. That 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: totally came out of nowhere for me. Um, you don't 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: want to know what else is ridiculous? You know what? 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: That's it? Thanks folks, thanks for joining us. By the way, 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the chimpanzee also played the piano with Steve Allen get 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: out of town. What else did the chip do? Um, 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: we'll see besides wear a suit and play the piano 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: with Steve Allen? Um? He Oh. He painted a painting 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: that ended up on the cover of Mad Magazine. Issue 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: thirty eight of Mad Magazine is a finger painting because 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: he was also an accomplished artist. I swear to you 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: this is true. So what what you're not able to 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: see is me just putting my headphones down and walking away. 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, thank you so much. Listen if you 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: enjoyed the shot. I don't know where to go from this, 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Actually I do. I've got something really diculous. I know 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: you do I do. Um, you want to know what 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: else is ridiculous being arrested for just enjoying a succulent 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: Chinese meal? What is a succulent Chinese meal? You're about 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: to find out. I am Elizabeth Dutton, and I am 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Dr Zaren W. Burnett, and I am Spartacus and this 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: heists and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous 64 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Now zarenes Elizabeth. At the end of our show, we 65 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: always tell listeners where to find us on social media, 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: and we tell them they can email us with ridiculous 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: suggestions slash confessions. We actually get a lot of emails. 68 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I've been surprised by that. Yeah, I'll be honest. I 69 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: thought that we were going to have to make them 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: up because no one would contacts like the old like 71 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Penthouse form letters and like the letters of the editor. 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: And I was just going to read Penthouse Forum letters. 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: But that they told me no, stop at Elizabeth, I 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: just sit on the front porch and read them out loud. Um. 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: I was wrong. People do email us? Come to find out, 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime fans are two things incredibly kind and incredibly funny. 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: They're amazing. Every single message that we've received has been 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: a total gem, and so we're going to be sprinkling 79 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of those gems into the shows to come. 80 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: The story that I'm going to tell you today, Zaren 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: Elizabeth comes to us from listeners Charlotte and Phil in Australia. 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Give it up, folks down Under. I love them, by 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the way, they're the cutest. Charlotte's emailed us suggesting this 84 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: crime was totally hilarious, super witty, and the crime and 85 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: the criminal are just completely ridiculous. Taylor made for us excellent. 86 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: So I had intern Elliott make sure that they could 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: record a short trailer for us. We're gonna actually hear 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: the Australian action. Yes, yes, and so I'm going to 89 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: let them get you prepped and ready. Good day. My 90 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: name's Charlotte and I'm Phil, and we're from a little 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: country way across the globe that you've probably never heard of, Australia, 92 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: and we want to share a ridiculous crime from down 93 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Under that we dare say shaped Australian culture as we 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: know it today. Is that a bit of a stretch fill? 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: Am I a slinky what continue. It has all the 96 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: ingredients of a ridiculous crime, a repeated Dinandesha multiple alias 97 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: is history making new segment, and a famous dead Hungarian 98 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: chess player give you the Democracy manifest Man, otherwise known 99 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: as the succulent Chinese meal Man. We won't give too 100 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: much away here except to titulate your taste spots by 101 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: telling you that the arrest video would have even the 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: finest Shakespearean actors quaking in their boots. Take it away, team, 103 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: they are amazing. And with that I'll get started. So 104 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: let me tell you about Paul Doza. His brother was 105 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: not named Bull. Just because you see me formulating, get 106 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: out of your brain. Paul and Bull right, twin brothers. 107 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: I beat you to it. Paul Doza was a chef 108 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: and a chess player. He was born in Hungary in 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: nineteen and he moved to Australia in the nineteen sixties. 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: He was a character. To put it mildly, he believed 111 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: that he was a research subject of the Hungarian military 112 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: who was implanted with some sort of chip or something 113 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight in Budapest. So he thought he 114 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: was part of like Hungary's MK Ultra yeah, he turned 115 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: eighteen and they just put a chip in him, put 116 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: a ring on and put a chip in him. Because 117 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: of this, he claimed that since nineteen, since he was eighteen, 118 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: he hadn't taken any medicine, painkillers or sleeping pills. Now, 119 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: I have to admit I'm not the strongest on the 120 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: technology's history, but I believe the transistor was more of 121 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: a sixties thing, and I didn't think we really had 122 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: chips that could even be small enough that you could 123 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: put into a human body, let alone like you know, 124 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: such that it wouldn't become toxic and kill the person. 125 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: How did he have a chip put in him at night? Hungarian? 126 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Nohow Okay, I don't know why I'm questioning it. I mean, 127 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: come on, So instead of having to take these meds right, 128 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: they were replaced with quote, harmonizing electromagnetic waves and hypnotic 129 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: suggestions that were sent to him by the Budapest Research 130 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Center satellite interesting because they wanted to chill out the population. 131 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: But he thought that the researchers could control both his 132 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: mind and his body, but that they could also provide 133 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: high levels of consciousness, health and euphoria, but they could 134 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: also kill him. Or make him mentally or physically ill. 135 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh so they just had like like a dial. It's 136 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: like a big switch and they could you gotta make 137 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: sure you hit the right one. Yeah, that's what he claimed. Okay, 138 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: why did he claim this? And who did he claim 139 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: this to? Do? We know the world claimed it to? 140 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Everyone claim did anyone met him? He's like, by the way, 141 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: I've got a chip in my head right here, right here, 142 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: yepora could kill me. That's Paul Paul right there. Like 143 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I said, character More importantly, he's also pretty much the 144 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: most prolific and proud din and dasher of all times. 145 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh nice. So he eat doesn't pay splits, that's it. 146 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: He's a restaurant runner for the ages. I want you 147 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: to picture it. Nineteen in the tony Sydney, Australia suburb 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: of Balmain, Paul Doza sits at a table in the 149 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: posh Manor House restaurant. Now there's a giant fountain in 150 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: the center of the room, surrounded by ferns. It's elegant. 151 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: The first plant, the tables are elegantly set. This place 152 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: is just screaming Eleganza. It's very early nineties style. Right 153 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: lace Doily tablecloths. Do they at least have heavy silver Yeah, oh, totally, 154 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: big flower bouquets in the middle of the table. And 155 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: they have like wicker like sturdy wicker chairs not not 156 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: not black panther wicker chairs like that would know they don't. 157 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: They're modified. There's like they're like wooden frame and then 158 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: wicker seat and backs. Oh yeah, right. The classy come 159 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: on now. And in the middle of all this class 160 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: and the elegance is Paul Doza and he is having 161 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: a straight up feast soup, oysters, steak, salad, wine, sweets, 162 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: kogac campari. I'm just gonna keep listing stuff, bananas, apples, 163 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: He's totally stuffing his face. It's very I keep imagining it, 164 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: like um, Mr Creosote at the end of Monty Pythons, 165 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Oh just it just won't you can do it. So 166 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: the bill comes for this extravaganza and Paul ignores it, 167 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: just straight up like, actually it's not on the table. 168 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. He sees it and he's just like, well, 169 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: this is what happens. He just sits there chilling for 170 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: a while, and then he gets up and he goes 171 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: to use the phone. He calls the police, and he says, 172 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: I have a forty four magnum. I've held up staff, 173 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: and then hangs up. He doesn't tell them whether what restaurants. 174 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I suppose he did. He's just like, hey, it's me. 175 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: I'm robbing this restaurant. I've taken oysters and I ate 176 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: it all. So then he goes back to his table 177 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: and he just sits and digests and reflects and glad 178 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: hands fellow diners, and then pretty soon the tactical response 179 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: group police storm in to the restaurant and they arrest 180 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Paul without incident. So she's just like, I enjoyed my 181 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: amateur twelve fourth dinner, and um now I'll leave with 182 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: these kind gentlemen in suits. Precisely, at that point, Paul 183 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: had been arrested for skipping out on restaurant tabs seventy 184 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: nine times already, oh damn times, seventy nine times. He 185 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: was known to have said, when the cops came, my 186 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: name is Paul Doza. I pay for no meals. Take 187 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: me away, like that's his thing, right, I can just 188 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: exceed the hand yester that goes with it. And that's 189 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: he had. All the he had a flourish to everything 190 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: he did, and he was very He would talk to 191 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: people at the next table and you know, chat everyone 192 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: up and was very kind of well versed in in 193 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: culinary delights. By seven, remember that was seven years later, 194 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: he had more than a hundred and ninety convictions for 195 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: dining and dashing. Wait a minute, I don't understand how 196 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: Australian law works, but it seems like the judge on 197 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: the forty three might have been like, you know what, 198 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do something else. They did. 199 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: They started saying that like he couldn't eat out after 200 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: seven pm. They put all these restrictions on him. I 201 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: thought of something maybe a little bit more. I maybe 202 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: not incarceration, something, I mean, man Scott to live. I 203 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: don't know, you would think that he would be banned 204 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: from restaurants. But because he was only doing this at 205 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: fine dining establishments, it seems like they would all know him, 206 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: like they do not let this man into the restaurant. 207 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like they'd have a picture of a bad 208 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: dollar bill and him really kind of blurred polaroid. Yeah, exactly, no, 209 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: but this all he started doing this in the eighties 210 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: when he refused to pay a dinner bill that was 211 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: like a hundred dollars Australian When they say dollars, I'm 212 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: talking Australian dollars. And he was fine thirty dollars and 213 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: he realized that wasn't so bad, and he kind of 214 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: like the notoriety of it. I think he told one 215 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: reporter later on that he'd been both a chef and 216 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: like just a regular cook, but a trained chef in 217 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: Australia from the sixties through the early eighties. But it 218 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: was a like progressively less and less fancy dieting establishments, 219 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: the opposite of a career that you should want completely. 220 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: So he like starts out at the top and he's 221 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: cooking all this fine cuisine and then he winds up, 222 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, like gutting fish on the dock somewhere and 223 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: then thrown into a fryer for like welcome to Macus 224 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Community Fish fry um. He had that knowledge though, of 225 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: a gourmet chef and a smalyer. So he knows wines really, 226 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: really well, and there's such a like robust wine culture 227 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: in Australia. Yeah, he knows. He's completely epicure and he 228 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: knows food so well. And that's one of of things too, 229 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: that like when he gets arrested, he'll say, as part 230 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: of his whole thing about how how wonderful the food was, 231 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: and kind of like compliment the restaurants bring the chef 232 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: out to the table. I'd like to compliment, but I 233 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to pay for it. So he said that 234 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: when in because this is around the time it all starts, 235 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: he was in a car accident and he shattered his 236 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: lower leg, and then he was in the hospital for 237 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: a really long time and he couldn't work, and he 238 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: was moved from like hospital hospital. Now was he blaming 239 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: the Hungarian chip in his head for this? I think 240 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: maybe he never made a direct correlation. But later he's 241 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: talking about the chip in his head and that that's 242 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: actually way later in all of this that he starts 243 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: chip talkings um. But so he goes from hospital hospital 244 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: and then from that point forward he's just like, you know, 245 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: what the hell with it, I'm just going to live 246 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: how I want, to eat what I want. I can't 247 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: afford it. He just had like a really you know, 248 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: small pension, but you can't let that get in the 249 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: way of an extravagant, lovely lifestyle. Got to be you completely, 250 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: so No one really knows how true those stories were. 251 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Any of his stories. Um, he told people that he 252 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: came from like Hungarian nobility. Of course, everyone always. I 253 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: mean I've done that three four times. He wore a cravat, 254 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: and that's something that like all these press stories, witnesses 255 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: will say, you know, he was wearing a cravat as 256 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: if like, well, oh, hey, only rich people knew how 257 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: to wear. And then I'm like, you know, we should 258 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: all wear cravats and just get away with whatever we want. 259 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: When did that like really fall out? Like you know 260 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: that it seems like it's still very much a think 261 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies of the eighties or people stop right. 262 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: I think of like Thurston Howell On, like people like 263 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: rich folks like you know, golf club set and they'd 264 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: have the cravatic, like you know, the nighttime invitational thing. 265 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: It was like a Robin Leech lifestyle because they went 266 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: from like the cravat to like the overly tanned open 267 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: jacket type thing. Yeah, like British Virgin Islands like vacation look, 268 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: white pants and a cravat. Yeah, so yeah, he wears 269 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: a cravat. He wore suits, but he also had like 270 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: this long goatee that he kept tied in a sort 271 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: of ponytail with a hair elastic like the Viking style, 272 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: like a braid, not no, not braided, Just like yeah, 273 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: and what why did he do that? I could not 274 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: tell karate? Are you crazy? Really? He said he knew karate, 275 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: And then he told a reporter, when my eye turns yellow, 276 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: it's only for five minutes. I am very dangerous. I 277 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: have no idea what that means. When someone's like, oh, 278 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: you know karate, like that's why it's not to keep 279 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: your your beard out of the soup, Like why why 280 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: are you doing this? He's like, well, when my eye 281 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: turns yellow five minutes, very dangerous. It sounds like dialogue 282 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: you'd see like before the level on a video game, 283 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: Like the warning is when I turn yellow. That's the 284 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: chip talking. Anyway, he starts eating these really decadent meals, 285 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: drinking up a storm. The guy drank like crazy and 286 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: not paying for it. And so he'd get a fine, 287 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: spend some time in jail, use his pension money to 288 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: pay the bills, get a fine, go to jail, start 289 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: all over. He would have to pay for the bills 290 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: while he was in jail. Yeah he'd get out. Yeah 291 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: he'd pay you eventually pay it off. But then like 292 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: he'd go out and do it again. No, And I 293 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: think that he then wouldn't pay the fines that they'd 294 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: let him out, because it's like such a small amount 295 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. I didn't have a 296 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: fixed address after a while, and he was like staying 297 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: at the Salvation Army hostel, shacking up with ladies that 298 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: he would sweet talk, and a couple of times he 299 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: faked heart attacks in order to be admitted to the 300 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: hospital so we'd have a place to sleep. Yeah, he 301 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: made dining and dashing his thing, though, but that's not 302 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: what made him famous. Let's take a break and we 303 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: come back. I'm going to tell you how Paul gained 304 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: true notoriety in Australia and where everything went from there. 305 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: So where were we? We were in Australia with my 306 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: favorite new dyning Dasher, dining with PAULA. I could do that, 307 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: I know, you know me, I'd wind up, couldn't do 308 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: that anxiety. Have you ever Fusta? Yeah, I was a teenager. 309 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was doing it with a full 310 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: understanding of what I was doing. And I'm not excusing myself. 311 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I knew it was bad and I still did it. 312 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, Like I think I've seen it on like 313 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: some sitcoms. Is that how you how you paid for dates? No? 314 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: I was never Why could I want a date? Are 315 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: you kidding? No? My idiot friends, We're going to go 316 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: somewhere and be like, oh, none of us have money. 317 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna need to run what kind of restaurants? Denny's, 318 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, no fine dining. There wasn't really much fine 319 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: dining in my hometown of Davis, California. But I could 320 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: go into a Sacramento. Yeah, then we could have to 321 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: like steal a car or something. I don't know. At 322 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: this point, it sounds like you fellas were up for anything. 323 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: I've never The closest I've come to dining and dashing 324 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: is um. One time we're all at this pizza place 325 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: in Oakland when I was growing up with my grandma, 326 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: and we was my grandma and my brother and me. 327 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: We got up and left and we like I didn't 328 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: even dawn on us that we hadn't paid the bill, 329 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and we got like, you know, half a block down. 330 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and ran back and paid him and 331 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: tipped him really well because we thought this is bad. 332 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: We went there all the time. Oh yeah, yeah, so 333 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't do that, You don't do it anymore. Yes, 334 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: I had some moral awakened. Paul doesn't made it his thing. Um. 335 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: He was eating fine meals all over the continent of 336 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Australia getting arrested doing his whole karate chess master thing, 337 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: because that's the thing. He was a chess master. He 338 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: the karate chess master part well. And he's just like 339 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: this sort of big you know, the girl is charming, 340 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: kind of like the equip the Irish poet, but in Australia, 341 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, like somebody's just a charmer and has stories 342 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: and it's full of themselves and it's kind of tickled 343 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: with themselves right right. And he was in the chess 344 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: community and very well known. He's like le chess champion, 345 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And he gave chess lessons and so I 346 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: don't know how many students he had, but he advertised 347 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: them for quite a lot of money. I think it's 348 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: like a week or something, a lot, but you know, 349 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: you put that out there. Who knows what kind of 350 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: negotiations he had anyway, two thousand three, Paul left this 351 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: mortal coil. And while he was still with us, though, 352 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: he was arrested dozens and dozens of times for failing 353 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: to pay his restaurant tab and he bragged about it. 354 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: So this wasn't like I said, this was. He was 355 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: fine with it, called the cops whatever. At the same time, 356 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, when he gets arrested and he 357 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: goes before a judge, he'd tell the judge, I'm so sorry. 358 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: But then he'd also rave about the food. I have 359 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: to say, that was the best filimanuo I've ever had. 360 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: If you're going to not pay for a meal, this 361 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: is the best meal to not pay for. And he 362 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: says the restaurant should be applauded, and he feels terribly remorseful, 363 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: and apparently these judges are fallen for it. Again. Why 364 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: is there not some communication like look out for this 365 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: guy is full of it. Instead they're like, oh, you 366 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: know what this I guess he's just super charming using 367 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: that charm. The legend of Paul doesn't end there, bough 368 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: I didn't that. The truth is that it's just beginning. 369 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: Paul wasn't nationally known during his lifetime as we can 370 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: see because no one's sharing intel on him being a dasher, 371 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: but he was. He was just an oddity. Interviewed a 372 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: bit during the late nineties for his weird world record 373 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: mission and restaurant running. I think he did honestly want 374 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: to be in the game book for I think he did. 375 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I really so. January two thousand nine, though, someone uploaded 376 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: a video to YouTube and that video pure gold, Pure Gold. 377 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: Baby's he's long past. But this video gets uploaded. The 378 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: video was filmed in nine, but it wasn't uploaded until 379 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: two thousand nine. You see me over here with the math. Yeah, 380 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: my two thousand three nine, That is after two thousand 381 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: three two nine. I'm with this, so yeah, it was 382 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: a posthumous release. But he obviously he didn't upload it 383 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: of himself. Um. In the video, we see a man 384 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: being arrested and escorted out of a Chinese restaurant in 385 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: Fortitude Valley, which is a suburb of Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. 386 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: And so he's being walked out from the restaurant into 387 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: a waiting patrol car, sayings are tents. The man is 388 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: taking great umbrage to his detainment, like super irritated with it. 389 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: So our friends Charlotte and Phil in Australia they told 390 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: you how amazing this video is, and it's still available 391 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: on YouTube. I cannot do it justice. The audio is 392 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: really just as good as the video. The idea is 393 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: the key thing here, and so I'm gonna play it 394 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: for you now. Mr. You just assured me that I 395 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: could speak sit and you're not assuring anything. I'm under what, gentlemen. 396 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: This is democracy manifest. Have a look at the headlock here? 397 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: See that chap over there? Here off pay us. This 398 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: is the bloke who got me on the penis. People 399 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: get some stuff? Why did you do this? Some coups? 400 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: But what what is the charge eating at me? Oh? 401 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: A succulent Chinese me? Oh that's nice? Headlocks up? Oh yes, 402 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I see that. You know your judo well and user? 403 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Are you waiting to receive my limp penis? Out? Get 404 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: you angel? I don't know which part is my favorite? 405 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: I see you know, well it's probably up there, but 406 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: I don't know about do you want to receive my 407 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: limp penis? I mean, well, let's let's recap an unpack 408 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: some of this ridiculousness. I'm under what, gentlemen, this is 409 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Democracy manifest. Like that line is what identifies the video. 410 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: For most people, scene is referred to as Democracy manifest. 411 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: It's not referred to a su No, we're gonna get part, 412 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: but Democracy manifest. What okay? Tell me this is your 413 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: first time hearing Is he? What he sounds like? Um? 414 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: A combination of the best friend from Four Weddings in 415 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: a funeral? Who's the British actor? I cannot think of 416 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: his name? Off and Nigel something weld on producer day producer, Dave. 417 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: You remember the actor's name Nigel? I want to say Hawthorne. 418 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. Let's see, um checking. Uh 419 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: is it Hugh Grant? No? Uh, you've got John Hannah 420 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: as Matthew James Fleet as Tom, Simon Callo as Garrett 421 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Simon Calloway. Simon Callo, that's the one. Okay, thank you, 422 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: producer Dave Simon Callo. That's the dude's name, Simon Callo. 423 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: He sounds like Simon Callo and Monty Python had like 424 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: a very inebriated baby and it grew up to be 425 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: a very arrogant man who was very consumed with his peanos. 426 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: Well that's where you get you out of my pianos. 427 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: I like the people this is has his hand on 428 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: my panis people. It's not just the line. Is that 429 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: delivery like his elocution? Amazing? Yeah, I know that getting 430 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: jostled by the police probably often involves unintentional or maybe 431 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: intentional cross action. Oh, I can tell you for certain. Definitely, 432 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: the man in the video delivers the line so beautifully. 433 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: The volume, Oh yeah, I mean it's to the background. 434 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: He's projecting that you can complete training. Yes. When you 435 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: watch the video, and I know people will just look 436 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: for Democracy manifest on YouTube, you'll see that he's totally 437 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: playing to any bystanders who are watching this mess. So 438 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: what is this charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal. 439 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: That's my favorite line ever. This is what people refer 440 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: to him as a succulent Chinese meal man. And what 441 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: a beautiful adjective to put in front of succulently. I 442 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: would never think to call a Chinese meal suculent, and 443 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: I worked in a Chinese restaurant for two years. I 444 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: will never enjoy another dinner of Chinese cuisine, be it Sechuan, Cantonese, 445 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: dim sum bow, you name it without referring to it 446 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: as a succulent Chinese meal, probably a out tell. The 447 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: chef compliments this meal succulent, like, what are we having 448 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: for dinner tonight? I don't know, I'm thinking of succulent 449 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: Chinese meal. And then you call and you order for 450 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: a pickup, and you say, yeah, I'll have whatever hot 451 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: and sower soup is it? Is it succulent? Yeah, I'm 452 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: gonna need it to be succulent. Yeah, I'll order it 453 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: with extra succulents. Um. Yeah. The judo, I see, you 454 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: know your judo will whoa what is this with the 455 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Judo's not even getting like judo flipped or judo. No 456 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: one's doing any quick judo moves. If anything, it's more 457 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: akin to like a Tai cheese slow movement. But this 458 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: does call to mind Paul Doza's claim of karate prowess. 459 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: My karate recommend recognizes your judo karate heause kio um. 460 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: The video was uploaded, as I said in two thousand nine, 461 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: immediately went viral, which obviously we can tell why that happened. 462 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Australians loved this guy. They still love him. I love him, 463 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: let's face it. Australian says of humor is fantastic. They 464 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: our body, They're teasing clever, anti authoritarian, little outward surfer 465 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: MC fanning, hilarious, so good. So just like the video, 466 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: this video is like the embodiment of this amazing their 467 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: appreciation of it too. So do you get a bunch 468 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: of Australians around some Brits and you get a little 469 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: alcohol involved, they get even funnier. Oh yeah, completely so 470 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: succulent Chinese meal man becomes a folk hero and it's 471 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: been called one of the most eloquent arrests of all time. 472 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: So the video goes viral. Folks were desperate to identify 473 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: the man protesting his arrest as being democracy manifest. I'm 474 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: so curious as to why it gets gets released in 475 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: two thou nine. Yeah, just somebody's like, oh I found 476 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: this old video. I gotta share this with the world. Yeah. 477 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just like going through archival footage it 478 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: was from. It was shot by a news crew and um, 479 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: it was raw footage, so you didn't have a reporter 480 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: speaking over explaining what the scene was. So it was 481 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: just this raw footage. And you know, there were a 482 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: lot of claims about it too, that some people thought 483 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: that it perhaps was a re enactment because there were 484 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: there are a couple of camera angles. Interesting, but I 485 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I think that's just like how it's anyway. Um, 486 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: there there were conspiracies and theories continued to totally and 487 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: so some people thought it was like a prank. Someone 488 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: thought it's you know, some have said that, like I said, 489 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: a re enactment of something that actually did happen. But 490 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: it's it's from what I can tell, it's a it's 491 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: a filming of of a scene. Um, well, here's what 492 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: happens though, is right. So people start trying to figure 493 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: out who he is. Um, Paul Doza perfect fit right, 494 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: and Dasher is getting hauled out of a restaurant this 495 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. So the world comes to no succulent Chinese 496 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: meal man as Paul Doza one and the same, And 497 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Paul Doza is not there to tell the world whether 498 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: it's him or not because he's gone. Um, but things 499 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: aren't really adding up with that, so well, Internet Sluice 500 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: went to work Internet Favorite Detective. So on some chess 501 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: forums they there were people who actually knew Paul in 502 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: real life who were saying, this is this is not 503 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: this is not the karate playing chess master. I know. Well, 504 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: I think the main issue is that Paul Doza had 505 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: apparently a very pronounced Hungarian accent, and he couldn't do 506 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: that British ellocution, like no, no, that he didn't do that, 507 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: because that sounds British, right, I mean he didn't sound Australia. Yeah, 508 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: he sounded very he's doing it doing a British yeah, 509 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: and like a very Shakespearean delivery, very theatrical. And many 510 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: people who knew Paul Doza said that that was not 511 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: something he could pull off. And so Hungarian is a 512 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: pretty thick accent. I mean, it's you'd have to be 513 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: really good to be able to get to erase all 514 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the sounds off your vowels. It's so English. Well, here's 515 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: here's something that I think is interesting. There was an 516 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: article written about this incident where the author said that 517 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Paul Doza wrote in a Hungarian accent because at one 518 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: point he had foul things sometimes, but that's wilde in 519 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: a Hungarian accent. Yeah, that's what I'm not going to 520 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: call this specify what article this was, but anyway, Paul 521 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Doza had like a really basic do it yourself web 522 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: page for a while before he passed away, and then, um, yeah, 523 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: the writing was a little stilted. Apparently that's how you 524 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: write in an accent. Um, so he has this sort 525 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: of heavy Hungarian accent. In real life, his face is 526 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: different than the man in the videos. It's just I mean, 527 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: you can see how it's hard to look at a 528 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: video and then look at a still photo of someone 529 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: because your face moves and what have you. But you 530 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: can kind of tell I don't think it's the same guy. Um. 531 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: He also was in real life really soft spoken, and 532 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: the his charm was not a boisterous charm. So the 533 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: idea of him shouting like the man in the video 534 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: didn't hold, and it didn't as somebody who has like, um, 535 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: issues with my volume. He sounds like somebody who had 536 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: been speaking loud, you know, like you don't suddenly when 537 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: other people try to do impressions of me they had 538 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: to shout. I don't even have to really use a 539 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: lot of effort to get louder. And you can kind 540 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: of tell that this guy is somebody who's used to 541 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: projecting to that. Will Ferrell sketch on Saturday Night Live 542 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: with the Voice of Modulation Disorder I have voice I 543 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: modulation syndrome. People in the US age here that was 544 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: very much you, and it's hard like for me to 545 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: do an impression of that. I'm not a very loud person, 546 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: no exactly. And so I'm the bore Paul, and you're 547 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: the succulent Chinese meal I'm a hunter sense Chinese mealman. 548 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: So and I'm Paul, just squirrely telling people that you 549 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: know what, do you know what? That's me? Uh So? 550 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: Who is the man in the video of if not 551 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: Paul was the whole thing? Simon Cowell in a tight 552 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: T shirt? Is there any way of ever knowing? Well, 553 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: when we come back from this at break, I'm going 554 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: to shine a light on this nice and I can 555 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: lower my eyebrow that's still raised. Okay, So we met 556 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: Paul Doza and we experienced fully experienced succulent Chinese mealman. 557 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: All are they one and the same? I don't know, No, No, 558 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: they're not everything. Everyone was going along thinking's succulent man 559 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: was Paul Enter The Australian punk band The Chats, The 560 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: Chats or the Chat Talking. In late February, they released 561 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: a video for their song Dine and Dash side note 562 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: terrible timing February you know restaurant, Yeah exactly. But their 563 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: music is actually pretty good. It's very seventy seven punk, 564 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: sort of like an Aussee buzz Cox. Yeah that that's 565 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: not kind of cool. In the video, they recreated the 566 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: Democracy Manifest clip with the artist Jack Ka playing the 567 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: role of succulent Chinese meal man. I would have liked 568 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: it if it was the actress Jack Hay, Oh my god, Mavvy. Yeah. 569 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: So no, instead, like you know of hands off my 570 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: pain Mabie. Um no, this guy Jack Ka. The thing is, 571 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: it's immediately obvious when you watch it that Jack K 572 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: is actually succulent Chinese meal man. He's not just playing 573 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: the part. It's the man himself. The band found the man. Yeah, 574 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: no question. And it turns out that Jack K is 575 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: actually a man named Cecil George Edwards. Wow. Cecil George 576 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Edwards sounds like he should be like a banker. Yeah, well, 577 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: he's an artist and he had had some kind of 578 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: previous run ins with the law, but nothing big. A 579 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: betting agency called sports bet got an exclusive interview with 580 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: him at the time, which is weird. So just like 581 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: a like an English betting Australian I know, but like 582 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: they have some commonalities. I thought maybe the English betting 583 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: had heard the story and they went down there. But 584 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: it was like a betting website, sports bet an agency. 585 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: They get this interview and I don't know how any 586 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: of that works. Um, So this webs pops up and 587 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: they're offering interview opportunities with Jack k not Jack Jack 588 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 1: selling merch T shirts whatever. Some of the T shirts 589 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: were in like a cross promotion thing with this Australian 590 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: meme account called brown Cardigan m I was like Australian 591 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: Tank Sinatra. Yeah. But it's like I went and I 592 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: looked at them, and this is what I love is 593 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: when you're a total outsider to a community and you 594 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: know that it's what they are doing is absolutely hilarious 595 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: to the people who get it. But I, as an outsider, 596 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: really have no idea what they're talking about. It's really 597 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 1: Australian specific human Yeah, it's not like that dude Thomas 598 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: violence where like Americans. No, no, no, I mean there's 599 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: some stuff that's just internationally and like humanly funny, but 600 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: there's some things that they're making references and I know 601 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: that it's super funny that I it's not funny to 602 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: me because I don't even know what it is. I'm 603 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: totally confused by it. But for some reason I love 604 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: seeing that because it's like, I like communities that get 605 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: to have their own thing. No one can just horn in, 606 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: and they have a bunch of inside jokes that yeah, 607 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: the other people have no ideaything. Think all right, you know, 608 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: have at it. I like that for people. That makes 609 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: perspective on the world. You suggest that they all share. 610 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Not everyone has to be privy to everything, you know 611 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. Um So, the merch and the booking website, 612 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: by the way, totally defunct now, so that went under 613 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. But Jack, the original um succulent Chinese meal 614 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: man he in this interview. He also provided the original 615 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: clip with the reporter's voiceover. And according to Jack and 616 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: the voiceover, he got pinched at the Chinese restaurant in 617 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: a case of mistaken identity. So as I said, he 618 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: was just like a petty criminal at the time. But 619 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: the cops were looking for someone who was on their 620 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: most wanted list and they thought that that was Jack Cecil. 621 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So they come in and they bust suck 622 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: him with Chinese. He's just assuming he is on a 623 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: most wanted list as a real hard and criminal. People 624 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: then get confused and they think that this guy is well, 625 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: he's just he's Jack, right, He's as much a character 626 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: as Paul Doza was. How do how do people name 627 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: mistake Paul Doza for him? Because everyone assumed that when 628 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: they saw the guy getting dragged out of a restaurant 629 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: that it was a Dion situation. It's kind of the 630 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: way I've pieced it together. So people see that clip, 631 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, it's that same as Dynan Dasher 632 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: and they kind of look alike, and it makes sense, 633 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: right and flashy or whatever, but not really knowing much. 634 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: If you just read news articles about Paul Doza and 635 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: you don't read the accounts of people who knew him personally, yeah, 636 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: it would totally make sense. So Jack Cecil, he's just 637 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: hanging out having a meal with a friend in the 638 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: restaurant and he gets yanked out and he's you know, 639 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: he's got this amazing outlook on life, so he makes 640 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: he turns it into a total show. Um, I'm sorry, 641 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: this is his offers of his body part of it. 642 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: He goes by, sorry, he's this provocateur, you know, like 643 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: and everything he does. He has his alias is um. 644 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: One of them is Johann Kelmut Carlson. I'm desperate to 645 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: hear him call himself that, like this is so good. 646 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: So he's this provocateur somehow, though he keeps his identity 647 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: as succulent Chinese mealman completely secret. I have no idea. 648 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: How did the band find out? I have no idea. 649 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Nobody seems to know, and the band isn't talking. They 650 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: haven't said like, oh hey, yeah, we totally I couldn't 651 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: find anything. Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is one 652 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: of those like secret Australian they know and they don't 653 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: want the rest of us to ruin it. I don't know. 654 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: So perhaps Australians are rolling your eyes at me, like, well, 655 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: of course we know how well for the rest of 656 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: us morons, But it doesn't I can't tell. So Um. 657 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like the quiet type, though it seems 658 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: like a self promoter. He's an artist, like a literal painter, 659 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: though he feels like a rise late and grind yes completely. 660 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: But he's this painter. He paints actually really good picture, 661 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: like an oil paints or whatever. And I don't know 662 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: that you're talking about chimpanzee. Yeah, although maybe they maybe 663 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: they're both just hopped up on that special orange juice here. 664 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: But Jack's paintings are are good. But a lot of 665 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: them are scenes of him being arrested, like he paints 666 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: that scene. And that's another thing that I would really 667 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: love to own. He was an original Jack K painting 668 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: of him being arrested for enjoying a succulent Chinese meal. Completely, 669 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: we have to see if we can get one of 670 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: these Jack K originals. Yeah, thank you, Um, Jack K, 671 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: if you're out there, I'm like a Jack K. This 672 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: is for you. I'll take either one, either one. So 673 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: that is the story of democracy manifest a K a 674 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: succulent Chinese meal. Man. I feel like I know Judo 675 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: all now. Yeah, I've learned a lot. We've come a 676 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: long way. What is your ridiculous takeaway on this one? 677 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: Oh wow, my ridiculous takeaway. I would probably say that Australia, 678 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: I am convinced, is a very fun place. It's like 679 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: Texas with more class. And I'm also convinced that Simon 680 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: Callo is an amazing actor. And don't ask me to 681 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: explain why this is further proof he's an amazing actor. 682 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: But because this guy reminded me so much of him, 683 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm like I like him even more so. Basically, if 684 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: you are able to do group I don't know say 685 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: I honestly great, but phenomenal elocution and able to talk 686 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: about your limp body parts in a way that strangers laugh, 687 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: I think you're a charming, charming person and we should 688 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: give you free sucking the Chinese men. I like the 689 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: celebration that the Australian people have for this, like owning 690 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: it and just loving the ridiculousness of it and the 691 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: Australian folk hero quality. It's so great. It's so great, 692 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: and I am so happy that Charlotte and Phil fill 693 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: this in. I had never heard of this. I don't 694 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: think I ever would. Thank you. Charlotte is a good one. 695 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: They're the best. Um. So that's it for us today. 696 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: That wraps it up. You can find us online at 697 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. If you've got 698 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: a tip for us about a ridiculous crime that you'd 699 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: like to hear about, look at what happened with Charlotte 700 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: and Phil. They could be you. You want to confess 701 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: to one. Go right ahead, email us at ridiculous Crime 702 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And after that, other than that, 703 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: tune in next time, my friends, let's hear that. 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