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Speaker 2: Look at this now, temptae.

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Speaker 3: Jesus?

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Speaker 5: To It's time down?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome to Morning Combat, where the question of the

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Speaker 1: day is which fighter is going to be the first

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Speaker 1: to be the Chris ben Wave MMA and by that

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Speaker 1: I mean murder suicide their entire family.

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Speaker 5: Wow. I did not sigh off of that joke. Wow joke.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy.

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Speaker 1: It's Morning Combat. It's the fourteenth of October twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about better be versus Bival

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Speaker 1: and the results therein, We're going to talk about Tetsuro

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Speaker 1: Tyra and and Brandon Rouville and the results Therein, we

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Speaker 1: have UFC three ten announcements as well as, for the

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Speaker 1: first time in nearly three years in MMA. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: the Francis and Ganu fight week.

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Speaker 5: Never never heard of it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I'm Lou Thomas. That's Brian Campbell mood. Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys joining us here BC.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, sorry are the Connecticut How are you good?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 5: Not well, because I made the you know, the the

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Speaker 5: the very spontaneous motion of shaving my facial hair, which

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Speaker 5: you know it was instantly regret you look.

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Speaker 1: Like the kind of guy at the office that gets

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Speaker 1: relieved when the minorities get fired.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's unacceptable. But it's just about the second

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Speaker 5: worst joke you've had since we've started. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: I regret it. But the good thing is it'll grow back.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you would have to say, between that

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Speaker 5: and the dye job, I do look like about twelve

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Speaker 5: years younger, except for this luggage under my eyes that

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Speaker 5: I'm carrying around.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, name this tune? Brian Campbell?

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Speaker 5: What do you got?

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell's in the lot again.

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Speaker 5: See this isn't fun.

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Speaker 1: This is outside the RB store, sucking on whip. It's

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Speaker 1: feeling numb. He's chasing thrills galore. I'm almost done. He's

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Speaker 1: smelling like regret and fries. Oh man, it's getting rough

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Speaker 1: a virgin by designer Chance. Well, no one calls his bluff.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, ten out of ten on the

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Speaker 1: lyrics hit that hip hop worn for me.

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Speaker 5: That's that doesn't justify it. You know what it's like

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Speaker 5: to be friends with Luke Thomas. Okay, you wake up

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Speaker 5: Sunday morning to hey, I just asked chat GPT to

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Speaker 5: write a funny song about me masturbating. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's a please lose my number. Okay, he's okay, I've

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Speaker 5: become uncrowned. Thank you, all right, thank you? There it is.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a good weekend otherwise?

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Speaker 5: Yeah I did, I thank you. I did.

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Speaker 1: I saw the Good Robot. I took two key to

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Speaker 1: see the Good Robot.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's the new kid movie that's out. It's beautifully animated,

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Speaker 1: and it's a it's a very nice story. It is

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm trying to hear myself and my.

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Speaker 1: How do you sound out? Check check one?

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Speaker 5: Check check one.

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Speaker 1: We do it this on the air and not beforehand.

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Speaker 5: Check check one too. There we go all right, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: I got what I'm looking for? Yeah? Better yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: So yeah. Outside of me looking apparently like my loved

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Speaker 5: today's show. And we got to, you know, we have

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Speaker 5: better BFBV all mess not mess a fantastic fight. So

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Speaker 5: I'm excited about that. But no, I didn't go to

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Speaker 5: But I did mow the leaves. Again. I'm winning the

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Speaker 5: battle this year. Normally I'm I'm like.

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Speaker 1: An expert told me, it's actually better to leave no

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Speaker 1: pun intended to leave the leaves there. It's actually better

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Speaker 5: But if you don't and it you know, and it

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, you can't pick what you

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Speaker 1: This lie, why did you shave?

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Speaker 5: You know, I thought I was onto something on this

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Speaker 5: then I went and I had the handlebar mustache going.

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Speaker 5: I'm down to a mustache and then I was getting

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Speaker 1: You know, in the Marine Corps when you have I

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Speaker 1: it's changed. But when I was in you were allowed

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Speaker 1: to have a mustache under certain kinds of regulations. But

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Speaker 1: like that's a terrible way to manage mustaches. Long Island, Luke,

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Speaker 1: how was the main card minute over the weekend?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, main card miner was fantastic. We only got

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Speaker 3: one bet wrong and that was unfortunately Alex Morono. He

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Speaker 1: He did lose. However, Gaff made I'll get ready for this.

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Speaker 1: Gaff made a thousand dollars off the most improbable bet.

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 3: Grant Dawson by Ko he made a thousand and he

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Speaker 5: I would love to have that royval postfight common and

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Speaker 5: have you seen this shit today? But the UFC would

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Speaker 1: What is up with them? Like you can't even show

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Speaker 5: Really, you can't show a hog and we're like I

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Speaker 1: Then it's like, don't even reference us verbally on air,

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Speaker 1: Like it has gotten to that point. Every time the

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Speaker 1: got taken down and I'm like, first all, we're on it.

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Speaker 1: Second of all, they're heart asses about it.

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Speaker 5: So sometimes sometimes those Twitter people they get inside of you,

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Speaker 1: No, no, they're telling me that the video got taken down.

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Speaker 1: It was there'd be just like fifty of them.

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Speaker 5: I hope that you don't care whether they live or die,

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Speaker 5: because that's when I think you're in your bet you

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Speaker 1: When yeah, most people, I feel that I'm.

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Speaker 5: A little disappointed that you bring in the pink monster today.

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Speaker 5: Now I wasn't disappointed in your bang energy last week,

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Speaker 5: but you know, I mean, turn the corner, turn.

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Speaker 5: Rid of that bullshit in your body?

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, why don't you stop looking like a

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Speaker 1: child molester. But we'll work on that first. How about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but Friday was great. To be back, it was great.

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Speaker 1: yes for Francis and gona're turning against hand fair here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I will say this. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 5: It's a good card. It's a good, good card card.

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Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of problems around it, yes, but

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Speaker 1: With that of mind BC, we have got to talk

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Speaker 1: about well, you know, the drill. We got to talk

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm ready to bang, all right.

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Speaker 1: BC, Let's get right into a topic. Number one, biggest

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Speaker 1: fight of the weekend by far. I would call it

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Speaker 1: a competitive good fight, not a thriller, but definitely a

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Speaker 5: Can you get past good? Though? Can you get beyond good?

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Speaker 5: Above that? You got to raise your rating?

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Speaker 1: Why they call it the instant reaction.

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Speaker 5: I felt we've all got a raw deal in there.

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Speaker 5: And I certainly rewatched it multiple times, you know, three

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Speaker 5: rewatched it. How freaking tense, high paced, and skillful. This

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Speaker 5: fight was two problems though not all action, but they

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Speaker 1: Next level, the high level highly technical. Let me just

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Speaker 1: I think marred. How we remember the final little bit. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Well, one man cared a lot about those fights, and

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm just pointing out like it's a dead

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Speaker 1: The question for you is as follows. Obviously, Arturberterbeev scoring

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Speaker 1: one thirteen, seven rounds to five, and then one sixteen

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Speaker 5: BC.

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Speaker 1: He is now the undisputed completely. That's the guy at

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Speaker 5: He told me, Luke, He told me that's the way

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Speaker 5: completely fine if it's a draw? Yes? Even seven five

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Speaker 5: far with I can understand seven five, but I'm not

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Speaker 5: I don't think that score represents what we saw, but

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Speaker 5: He's fucking great. He is potentially all time great. He's

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Speaker 5: Because he's such a firm, strong boxer. He looked like

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Speaker 5: go the distance against Better Beef. He brought in key

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Speaker 5: And what he told Marcus Vegas, the journalist afterwards from

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Speaker 5: to try to win that over look, this was a

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Speaker 5: brilliant performance in which I think bevall raised his level

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Speaker 5: I don't think he ultimately, Luke, I want to ask

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Speaker 5: I felt like his spamming was fantastic, and he was,

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Speaker 5: especially in rounds ten and eleven, slipping through the guard

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Speaker 5: of Bevon and landing big shots. But for the majority

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Speaker 5: Bevoll's defense was out out of this world or I

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot I disagree with with what you said.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I think when you say something like Bivol wasn't running,

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Speaker 1: Better b of which I thought was dangerous. And for

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Speaker 1: the most part he got out of those.

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Speaker 5: Though, and most of the fight in punching rang.

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Speaker 1: There's punching range, were not about it. But there were

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Speaker 1: times certainly where he as he got closer to the ropes.

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Speaker 1: weaponized it very often. He made himself a very hard target,

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Speaker 1: changing rhythm, changing angles, changing sides. It was fantastic. However,

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Speaker 1: it's true. Part of and I scored the fight for

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Speaker 1: Bivil seven five to Bivol upon rewatch is how I

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Speaker 1: more than okay, bad luck.

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Speaker 5: It's bad luck really.

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Speaker 1: But the thing I want to point out is if

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Speaker 1: as some of the shortcomings of what Bivoll did. There

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Speaker 1: do well early, then cover round seven in particular round

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Speaker 1: very much. Sure, and I'm not saying that those rounds

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Speaker 1: to reflect on how badly that looked to the judges.

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Speaker 1: It was too much time spent in defensive crouching positions

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Speaker 5: Not saying, and that hurt him. I mean, particularly ten

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Speaker 5: So that I think that does play into your part

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Speaker 5: the twelfth round for beev All, and I know all

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Speaker 5: three judges gave the twelfth round for Better BV. And

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Speaker 5: I think the online response I saw as people were split.

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Speaker 5: I mean, rewatch that round. Bev All has success early

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Speaker 5: have to ask yourself, I think did bev All's success

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Speaker 5: Better BV. Because I think his defense was so strong

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Speaker 5: Better BV being a body puncher in that one, because

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Speaker 5: you do have to juggle at times like the twelve

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Speaker 5: idea that this is any love. First of all, it wasn't

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Speaker 5: but even that, the judges may have gotten it wrong. No,

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Speaker 5: if I can make an argument for them. These are

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Speaker 5: make an argument for either way. And Bev all too,

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Speaker 5: in some of those sequences where look he right, he

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Speaker 5: rocked better Bev a round seven. I mean he showed

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Speaker 1: Do you notice that I didn't feel that way.

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Speaker 5: I thought he looked like the bigger man, and I

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Speaker 1: Were times got underhook and thrown around a little bit too.

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Speaker 5: When he was a little bit tired late. I'm not

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Speaker 5: There's no question about that. So I'm not again away

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Speaker 5: you agree with me that Beevall took his stock, which

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Speaker 5: and just took it to another level with this performance.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I I okay, Remember you had picked better Bev

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Speaker 1: I felt like that's what laid out in real terms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to me, it's like did he he

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Speaker 5: I don't think it jumps them, but I think it showed.

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Speaker 5: I thought he would have needed a perfect fight to

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Speaker 5: It was interesting to hear him in that long of

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Speaker 5: he treats every single fight in training camp like it's

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Speaker 5: So there's never any stone left unturned, and he gives

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Speaker 5: some of his title defenses had been I don't want

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Speaker 5: If you weren't going to get out of the early,

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have to spam him with combinations. But the

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Speaker 5: coming back with a left hook. I mean he was.

436
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Speaker 5: There was so much offensive variety to his game that

437
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Speaker 5: he proved he's not just a better boxer than better BF.

438
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Speaker 5: I think he's a better fighter overall. And I never

439
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Speaker 5: thought I would say that coming out of that fight.

440
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can draw that conclusion, but I

441
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Speaker 1: do want to try big two points if I may.

442
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,040
Speaker 1: That I take away from this one is something I've

443
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Speaker 1: said in MMA, and I'm gonna say it here again.

444
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,879
Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out, Okay, if you're like me,

445
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Speaker 1: and you watch that is a draw acceptable? Yes? Is

446
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,919
Speaker 1: seven to five acceptable for better BF? Yes? And by

447
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 1: the way, I know you mentioned like, well a four

448
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 1: is one more round two things I would say to that, Yeah,

449
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 1: but which other round would it be? And also the

450
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 1: notion that you can watch that fight and find only

451
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Speaker 1: four rounds for bival seems insulting. And to that point,

452
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Speaker 1: if I may, let's get uh, if we can't long

453
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 1: out Luke, Eddie Hearn spoke to this, and I gotta

454
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Speaker 1: tell you I know that Eddie Hearn is backing his guy. Essentially,

455
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 1: this made a lot of sense to me. Here's what

456
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 1: he said after the fight. Can't hear it? I can't

457
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Speaker 1: hear it. Let's take it off the screen. If we

458
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Speaker 1: can't hear we're going to start over. We'll go back

459
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Speaker 1: to that when they're when they're ready. Let me know

460
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Speaker 1: when you guys are ready with that. Oh, for fuck's sake,

461
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: the clip I said had audio. I just want to

462
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Speaker 1: be clear about that, all right, Well, whatever he was,

463
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Speaker 1: he was dumbfounded that someone could only find four rounds

464
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Speaker 1: for billion.

465
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Speaker 5: This guy worked his whole life to be coming to speed, JAMMI.

466
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Speaker 1: But so I want to be clear like, I don't

467
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Speaker 1: have any issue with better b of winning, But two

468
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Speaker 1: things I want to say in response to all of this.

469
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Speaker 1: First thing I'm gonna say is commissions never give us

470
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Speaker 1: a sense of why people scored fights the way that

471
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Speaker 1: they did, and it's very difficult to know. Remember this

472
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Speaker 1: is you made this point in the Tyson Fury and

473
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Speaker 1: Ghanu fight. In MMA, we don't score ring generalship until

474
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Speaker 1: other factors are all equal.

475
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Speaker 5: That is not how it works in boxing defense too.

476
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Speaker 1: And defense as well. Defense is positively scored in boxing,

477
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: it is not positively scored in MMA. So for that reason,

478
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Speaker 1: it is very hard to know round to round how

479
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Speaker 1: the judges interpreted the fact that better BF was the

480
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Speaker 1: guy at all times basically in center and stalking, but

481
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Speaker 1: of course at times he was going downhill on Bival

482
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Speaker 1: and at other times he was getting chewed up by

483
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Speaker 1: Bival even though Bivol was on the outside. What I'm

484
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Speaker 1: trying to point out to you is it's very hard

485
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Speaker 1: to know how much that mattered because they won't speak

486
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Speaker 1: to us. So this is the point I want to make.

487
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Speaker 1: The commissions have to realize that they need somebody, one

488
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Speaker 1: representative to start explaining scorecards, and what they think is

489
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Speaker 1: going to happen is that there's going to be backlash,

490
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Speaker 1: which there will be of course, and they think, oh,

491
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Speaker 1: this won't be convincing. It will be convincing over time.

492
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Speaker 1: Over time, people will begin to understand how judges really

493
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Speaker 1: look at things, which judges value X or y. They

494
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Speaker 1: desperately need to do this to help us understanding.

495
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Speaker 5: That's the first one.

496
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Speaker 1: What I want to make. The second point I want

497
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Speaker 1: to make is this one, which to me is a

498
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Speaker 1: little bit more interesting. Throw up the scorecard if you

499
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Speaker 1: can't al Long Island, Luke. There's no audio on this one,

500
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Speaker 1: just the judge's scorecard from the main event. Now that

501
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: was a dig.

502
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Speaker 5: You just took a little I.

503
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Speaker 1: Definitely sent them a clip with audio. But okay, it

504
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I want you to pay attention to something.

505
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Speaker 1: If you look at rounds one, two, and three, they're

506
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Speaker 1: all scored the same. If you look at rounds ten, eleven,

507
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Speaker 1: and twelve, they are all scored the same, such that

508
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Speaker 1: there is any difference they exist between. I think even

509
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Speaker 1: round ten was scored excuse me, round eight was scored

510
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Speaker 1: the same. So not even that four to seven is

511
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Speaker 1: where there is any differentiation. That's the only place where

512
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Speaker 1: you really get any difference is and even some of

513
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Speaker 1: those are unanimous. So b C. I went back and

514
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Speaker 1: I looked to thank you. I appreciate it for putting

515
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Speaker 1: that up. I went by, I looked at rounds four

516
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Speaker 1: through seven again, Holy shit, these rounds are hard to score, dude.

517
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Speaker 5: So one thing that happened when you're watching and you're

518
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Speaker 5: trying to make an argument for the guy you didn't

519
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Speaker 5: score it against and you're now convincing yourself that you

520
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 5: don't know what you're talking about, yeap shows you how

521
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 5: freaking close this fight is.

522
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Speaker 1: Round seven is a perfect example. Round seven and this

523
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: happened a lot where you'd get better excuse me, get

524
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 1: Bivol sticking and moving early, sometimes in combination, but definitely

525
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: having the more noticeable effect, and then maybe in the

526
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Speaker 1: last minute forty five seconds, here comes better BEV downhill.

527
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Speaker 1: This is one such round where better BV got knocked

528
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Speaker 1: off of his own balance. I think like legitimately rocking

529
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Speaker 1: and rocked it, get stunned at least for a second,

530
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Speaker 1: but there was more than just that from.

531
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Speaker 5: Him, and then beef All jumped on him with two

532
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Speaker 5: massive long flurries where it looked like better Beev was

533
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 5: more hurt than he was, but the judges have to

534
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Speaker 5: take that into account, you know what I mean.

535
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Speaker 1: However, however, he kind of Oscar de la Hoya against

536
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Speaker 1: Trinidad himself, which if you've never seen that fight, basically

537
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Speaker 1: de la Hoya was winning that fight and then kind

538
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: of took off late and then ultimately Loot lost on

539
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Speaker 1: the judge's.

540
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 5: Scorecards, got robbed.

541
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Speaker 1: But yes, okay, but he definitely didn't do himself a

542
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: lot of favors fucking off late in that fight. The

543
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Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make here is I don't think

544
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: Bibll was necessarily doing that. But what you see is

545
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: in the last forty five seconds or so, I think

546
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Speaker 1: fifty seconds of that fight, five zero better be It

547
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: hurts him and then starts just touching him constantly, and

548
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: it's like, without a judge explaining how much ring generalship

549
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 1: mattered in that one, or defense matter than that one,

550
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: if you're just left to score the offense, it is

551
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Speaker 1: virtually impossible to score that round in any kind of

552
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Speaker 1: unanimous way, true or false.

553
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Speaker 5: True. I mean, I was telling you that this was

554
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Speaker 5: a specific fight where upon multiple rewatches, I now say,

555
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Speaker 5: I don't think you can, like, we can all score it,

556
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Speaker 5: and we could all if we wanted to try to

557
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Speaker 5: count the punch numbers, which Compybox has built a reputation

558
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Speaker 5: and a great business on. I don't even know how

559
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Speaker 5: they would do it, because there are sequences in this

560
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Speaker 5: fight where you think you know what happened, but then

561
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Speaker 5: you watch the ESPN zoomed in slow motion replays and

562
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: you're like, oh, that punch did get in, or oh,

563
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 5: they just barely got out of the way of that one.

564
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Speaker 5: I don't remember a fight with this level of craftsmanship

565
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: on both sides where it was this much of a

566
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Speaker 5: high speed chess where you actually need the slow motion

567
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Speaker 5: replace to begin to differentiate. So again, it takes me

568
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Speaker 5: away from the idea that I don't think there was

569
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Speaker 5: controvertial I don't think there, you know, anyone was paid

570
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Speaker 5: off or anything like that. I just thought maybe they

571
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Speaker 5: got it wrong. I still think in theory they got

572
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Speaker 5: it wrong, meaning I think in theory Luke, they didn't

573
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Speaker 5: grade the defense enough of bev All where even if

574
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Speaker 5: in the final minute it better beev Is coming downhill, dude,

575
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 5: he swallowed up so many of those shots, you know,

576
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 5: four and five punch combos, only one is getting through.

577
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Speaker 5: I get that that's an argument to keep him in

578
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Speaker 5: the round. But Bevall's offense was so much cleaner, was

579
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Speaker 5: it not?

580
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Speaker 1: It was cleaner. He was the better pure boxer, which

581
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: we knew, but then to see how much better?

582
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Speaker 5: Sure? And it seemed now I'm not going to play

583
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 5: into what he told Marcus about like he was trying

584
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Speaker 5: to say that Canelo might have more one punch power

585
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 5: than better Beev. I think my argument to that, and

586
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Speaker 5: Beevill kind of explained to himself too, is that in

587
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Speaker 5: this specific fight, Better beev wasn't loading up with one.

588
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: He was spamming you, but like you know, throwing maybe

589
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: sometimes seventy five percent. But he said it's all heavy.

590
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 5: He said Canelo was throwing literally everything he had to

591
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 5: some of these shots. But I thought you had the

592
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: first item when you're when you're judging boxing is clean

593
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: and effective punching, not damage. Clean and effective punching, Yes,

594
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 5: what is it?

595
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Speaker 1: What does effective mean effective punching? I mean, look so

596
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Speaker 1: that something. So that's another problem that Bivall had not

597
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Speaker 1: all the time. For example, round seven when he knocks

598
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Speaker 1: him off his balance. That was a huge shot to

599
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Speaker 1: be landed. There's a couple times where you could see

600
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Speaker 1: him land cleanly. But the problem is like over time

601
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Speaker 1: it barely ever deterred. Better Beev and I wonder again,

602
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Speaker 1: without them giving us more information, it is very difficult

603
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Speaker 1: for us to know. However, one could surmise if they

604
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Speaker 1: wanted to that because better excuse me, because Bivall was

605
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Speaker 1: landing cleaner and then more continuously at least in the

606
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Speaker 1: early parts of some of those middle to later rounds.

607
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Speaker 1: But it didn't really slow better Bee of down. They

608
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Speaker 1: may have been well. And also it is nothing I'm

609
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: going to point out. I know Tim Bradley was getting

610
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: killed for the commentary. He was probe pro super pro

611
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: better BF. Guys, I'm not good at calling boxing, and

612
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: I know that. But like we've done it before, and

613
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Speaker 1: if you're if it's it's way easier to do it

614
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: when you're it's right in front of you. It's actually

615
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: much harder than it looks when you're doing it in

616
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Speaker 1: the studio. You have no idea how much you miss.

617
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: Another thing that we just don't really know BC is

618
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: those judges were right there and they probably heard the

619
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Speaker 1: impact of some of that stuff, and I wonder if

620
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Speaker 1: just the crack of better bf's shot absolutely may have

621
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Speaker 1: played of another role.

622
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Speaker 5: Again, we don't know, and I wonder if they're judge

623
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Speaker 5: because even beav All said it afterwards when when people

624
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 5: were trying to say, well, look, your face was more

625
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: beat up than his, which is you can't score a

626
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: fight on face. But I know people try to throw

627
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 5: that in the argument, and he was saying that he

628
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Speaker 5: only had that swelling because he felt like better BF

629
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Speaker 5: was hitting him so hard to the hand he was

630
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 5: getting and the inside was like, and I don't discount that.

631
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Speaker 5: There's not offensive effects in there. When better BF does that,

632
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: it's not just that he's spamming you with pressure. He's

633
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Speaker 5: just constantly hitting you hard. And Bevall said that, but

634
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: do you think the judges are scoring that or maybe

635
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 5: overly scoring that where it's like, that's that gray area

636
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 5: where it's hard to know.

637
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Talked about us before. It's the Diego Sanchez versus Martin

638
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: Campman effect. It's an MMA reference. I know I usually

639
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: try to keep my boxing references for boxing fights, but

640
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: we made this.

641
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: Point before we have a by crowd they go both ways.

642
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do go both both places. They'll go you

643
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, top or bottom? Okay, But the

644
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: point I want to make is serious, namely that I

645
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: remember in that fight, if you've never seen it, Diego

646
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: Sanchez throws a ton at Martin Campman and a lot

647
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: of it gets close, but never hits or bounces off

648
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: the gloves or the arms. And yet he still won

649
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: that fight. And you're like, well, that's just bad judging, right,

650
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: But it's a confusing element that people have to interpret

651
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: in real time. If you're just busier than the other guy,

652
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: or at least busier in spurts, which is what better

653
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: BV was. I would say that there was like a

654
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: steady drip from bival, but then there was like I'm

655
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: not gonna call it avalanches, but like the faucet turned

656
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: on yes for better BF. And I wonder if that

657
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: is simply more memorable or just stands out in the

658
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: minds could be of judges. Again, people want to be like,

659
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: this was a terrible decision. I think it is very

660
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: difficult to find eight rounds for better BF. I really

661
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: do believe that. On the other hand, it is not

662
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: difficult necessarily to find a winning or certainly a drawing scenario.

663
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: And so for that reason. By the way, there's a

664
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: couple of rounds that could have been ten ten too,

665
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: Like we don't talk about that that they probably shouldn't.

666
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: I don't think ten ten should be a thing, and

667
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: a lot of they don't teach that you should do

668
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 5: ten ten.

669
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: I understand they don't like it, but like, here's one

670
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: of those fights where it seems kind of appropriate.

671
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 5: You hear what you're saying. There are rounds that are

672
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: just like, who, who the fuck?

673
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Could you possibly say that? No? No, I got what?

674
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: I got one more I want it's a test I

675
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: wanted to give you. Okay, no one does it this way,

676
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: and it's not a way that I'm asking it to

677
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: be done. But I wonder what you would answer you

678
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: might give. Imagine you had to judge that Pride style

679
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Pride Fighting Championships, so you have to judge it as

680
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: a whole. If you're judging the bout as a whole,

681
00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: who's the winner?

682
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 5: I think bevall.

683
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a draw if you draw it, do

684
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: it as a whole.

685
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: And I get that a lot of people won't say

686
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 5: Bevall because better BF had a better close in general

687
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: in the championship rounds. For sure he did. But I

688
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: mean if I'm saying pride style, then I'm betting on

689
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 5: the totality of the fight. Yes, that's right, Yes, but

690
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: I think this plays into the question I wanted to

691
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 5: ask you because you always want to check your own

692
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 5: blind spots and take your own l's and you know

693
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: it's not enough for me to say I thought bv won,

694
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 5: So anyone says the opposite is wrong. No, there's a

695
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: lot of nuances and this is a ridiculously close fight.

696
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: How much do you believe people like me or you

697
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: or anybody Luke can get too caught up in the

698
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: storylines where because Bevall accomplished the scenario in which a

699
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: lot of us study would lose. I picked a late

700
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: better BF stoppage because I haven't seen anybody stand up

701
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: to that tsunami of pressure and power shots. And really,

702
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: to be fair, better BEF fought so well, even though

703
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 5: I don't think he fought the best performance he could have.

704
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 5: It was such an even fight where they were canceling

705
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: each other out. So much do you think because Beevo

706
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 5: not only didn't get stopped, but because he was the

707
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: perceived smaller man or perceived lighter puncher, and he had

708
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: the best, most eye catching offensive moments of the fight.

709
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: Do you think him winning that story of the fight

710
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 5: to take the old next com and phrase is making

711
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: us overvalue some of these rounds because it's like, holy shit,

712
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 5: he's the boxer and he's standing directly in front of

713
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: Better BV outside of until the end when he was

714
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: circling more. But I mean, he's giving it back to

715
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: him and landing the bigger shots, and it's like, oh shit,

716
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: does that jade you in your head? Like he's doing something?

717
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 5: Maybe I didn't think he could, so that is you know.

718
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: That sounds like I thought he could do what he did.

719
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he would ultimately pull it off,

720
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: but I thought that there was a charitable way to

721
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: look at that and think, I think he can.

722
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: So if he had stopped better BF, you wouldn't have

723
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: been insanely shot.

724
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: No, if he stops, If he stopped better beev and Aga,

725
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I thought there was a outside but real chance he

726
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: could have knocked him down. Yes, did not think there

727
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: was much of a chance he was going to stop him.

728
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: If he had stopped Better beev that would have been

729
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: next level, didn't.

730
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 5: You feel in round seven for that like quick moment

731
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: when Beevall was swarming on him, that Better Beev was

732
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: like hurt.

733
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Her for a second, I did, But then ten seconds later.

734
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: The fight completely and he got angry.

735
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: He sort of putting it on him. And by the way,

736
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: the advice that the corner gave of him in English

737
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: for Better Beef, which was if you noticed, they said

738
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: stay on him. They wanted to what he would move laterally,

739
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: they wanted to him right on top of Bivol to

740
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: give him no space and then touch, touch, touch, and

741
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: then ripped to the body, which was some of his

742
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: body work I thought was pretty incredible. It was heavy, early, heavy, late.

743
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: Put up the stats if you can from comfy box.

744
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I know they're a little bit hard to see. I'm

745
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: gonna put on my Jesus Christ. I'm fucking blind as shit.

746
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I can't see a goddamn thing.

747
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 5: Uh I can read that. So bev All had a

748
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: slight edge in total punches landed one thirty seven. The

749
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 5: bev All fifty percent of power punches landed jumps out

750
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: hugely insane, but Better Beev did attempt a lot more

751
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: punches overall, more than what two hundred and fifty overall.

752
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to point out though, look at

753
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: the overall punching totals, Look at the rounds and even

754
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: rounds where one is more than the other one, the

755
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: difference is usually quite minimal. Close. Yes, So there's several

756
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: of like like round six, where numerically anyway they are tied.

757
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: This is what I mean.

758
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 5: Are we saying round one and two are the only

759
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: like clear all layer rounds for either guy? Well, I

760
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 5: mean I thought better Beev was kind of clear. I

761
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: mean round eight I thought was like as clear a

762
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: better be of round if you could have had ten

763
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: and eleven, I thought.

764
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Twelve is twelve is a swing round.

765
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: Okay, So there's more than I thought there. But I mean,

766
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: so for all that talk that I did trying to

767
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 5: sway why BEEVI all should have won? What are we

768
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: missing on what Better Beev did from like championship guile

769
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 5: and knowing how to win fights to be able to

770
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: make sure he did win this one.

771
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: So definitely pouring it on in the second half. You

772
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: could hear his corner even talk to him about it

773
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: like we're in the seventh round now, Like they knew

774
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: that there was about to be a switch, and there was,

775
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Like you can just look at the first half offense

776
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: compared to the second half, and it went up significantly

777
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: on two. He never got deterred by the movement of Bivill,

778
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: and I remember Vivill wasn't just there were times when

779
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: he was doing this and I thought that really cost him.

780
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: But then there's times he's going side to side, then

781
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: as he moves he's throwing a punch with it and

782
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: then catching Better Bef clean. It never deterred him from

783
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: just staying on top of him, so he really stuck

784
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: to his game plan. I thought that he realized that

785
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: when he had good opportunities he would seize them and

786
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: throw more behind it. Some of the body work, especially early,

787
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: especially late, was great.

788
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: Do you think Better Beef was swayed away from using

789
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: his jab as a weapon and going consistently the body

790
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 5: because of bevill speed?

791
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I think the speed, the foot speed and the

792
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: hand speed of Vivol were clearly better. Clearly Better like

793
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Better Beev looked like a very tactical, patient, powerful guy.

794
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: He did not look like the swifter athlete by any

795
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagine, did you do after.

796
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 5: Knee surgery and have that level twelve run stamina? Like

797
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 5: that's impressed.

798
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: He's super impressed. He had. Dude, he didn't have an

799
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: ounce of fat he was on him.

800
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 5: Didn't They look like two warriors from like the fourteen

801
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: hundreds to represent their village and we're just going to

802
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: fight to the death. They had didn't know they had that?

803
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: Like some people were tweeting, this is the best of

804
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: what Russian boxing could be and shout out to a

805
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 5: country producing these two great champions, regardless of war affiliations

806
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 5: at the moment and all that. It showed out for

807
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: Russia in that regard. But again I'll reiterate, I missed

808
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 5: how grateful fight it was. And now I think the

809
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 5: rematch we were talking about that that potential off camera

810
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 5: with Long Island Luke Noseta over there. I think the

811
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: rematch will be more offensive on both sides because of

812
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 5: how close this first one was, and I think they

813
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 5: both will have a bigger level of comfortability that because

814
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 5: they were both careful yet crazy trying to win. I mean,

815
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 5: the dude better BF defense was on point as well,

816
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: not as tight as Bevill but for that destroyer to

817
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: show that level of craft, it was a tense fight.

818
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: I think the rematch you'll see more flow, more offense.

819
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: This is going to be a spectacular shootout.

820
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say on this, and

821
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: we'll move on to UFC content here in just a second,

822
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: which is it felt like just by virtue of how

823
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: they matched up where they were because when better Beev landed,

824
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: obviously the Muslim fighter, he's going to be a a

825
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: in a Muslim country, there's no problem with that. But

826
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: of course he's going to be cheered a little bit

827
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: more when he lands or when he moves downhill. This

828
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: is one thing that I think really bothers us one BC.

829
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: There was a draw and on the scorecards, fine seven

830
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: five I can live with, but there was no scorecard

831
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: that reflected how great Bivall did and that that's just like,

832
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: really that's aost swallow. But there's something else to it too,

833
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: which is that and that we had known this on

834
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: the commentary Tim Bradley had said it as well, which was,

835
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, in order to win this, Bivall has to

836
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: fight a perfect fight, and he didn't fight a perfect fight.

837
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: And he lost. But the thing I want to say

838
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: is it we almost set it up like in order

839
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: to get to the finish line, Bivall has to do

840
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: more and be better than better BEV does, And I

841
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: think that is true. It is true that like the

842
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: task that Bivall had in front of him was much

843
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: more difficult in a sense, given the style matchup and

844
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: given the strengths than the task that better BF had. Now,

845
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: beating Bivall is not some easy task, but like round

846
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: over round, minute over minute, more is expected of Bivol,

847
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: and so I kind of feel like he had more

848
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: to deal with and the fact that that also isn't

849
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: reflected in the scoring just doesn't sit right.

850
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 5: That's a good way to kind of say, what is

851
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: the fuel of what we're feeling right there in it?

852
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 5: But I think it played out that way because the

853
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: judges ultimately valued what they felt were more thudding, powerful

854
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 5: shots from better BF. So he did need to be perfect,

855
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: and I think that's why the rematch will be even

856
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: better because it'll be more offensive.

857
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: Very quickly, how does it all line up? They look

858
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: like they're going to do the rematch. We had Turkey

859
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: on TV saying basically as much.

860
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 5: As soon as I fight ended, he says.

861
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: He wanted to do it. Both guys seem like they

862
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: want to do it as well. You see, My question

863
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: is this, where do David Benavidez and David Morrell, who

864
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: are also a one to seventy five. There's no real

865
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: belts on the align with this one. They're unifying some

866
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: secondary belts essentially and some interroom belts. So where does

867
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: that put them? And also Canelo wanted Bivol if he

868
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: emerged victorious from this. Well, now he's got no belts.

869
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Where does this leave Canelo, Benavetez and Morrel?

870
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: I think because Turkey badly wants this rematch. Turkey, like

871
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: I said, was caught on camera saying to beeval like

872
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: I think you won or not caught on camera. He

873
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 5: said it right in the interview afterwards, he thought Bevall

874
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: won by two rounds, but he loves both guys. He'd

875
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: love to see it again. Look, that's the guy who's

876
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: right in the checks. I like the humble nature of

877
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: both warriors. Afterwards, I thought Beval did a great job

878
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 5: being as humble as possible but also reiterating what he

879
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: wants the second chance here so look, maybe Benavetez versus

880
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: Morel in that regard produces obviously a proven first crack

881
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 5: at the undisputed championship. In terms of the next big

882
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 5: fight for that champion, whoever comes out of that rematch,

883
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: Canelo is obviously the wildcard because Luke, I got to

884
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: ask you, what if Beevill comes back and wins a

885
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: competitive decision here, Canelo's going to want to enter that sweepstakes,

886
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 5: probably to get his chance at the four belts.

887
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have maybe interest.

888
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 5: I don't have lesson zero. No, no, I don't I

889
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: have more than less than zero. But maybe do you

890
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 5: think maybe that's the catnip that does get us Benavitez Canelo,

891
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 5: But we'll get that one seventy five or you don't

892
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 5: really care.

893
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Canelo is any way interested in fighting

894
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: the appropriate tough fight.

895
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 5: He's not gonna fight, but people think that better BF

896
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 5: somehow didn't look great and now.

897
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Would fucking put a beating on him?

898
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: Yes, he would and Bevall two again in the rematch.

899
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I didn't see anything from Bivall that

900
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: told me that if fight with Canelo would go differently.

901
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: In fact, it looked at me like, oh right, he

902
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: would do that again. Bivall's fucking great.

903
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: So would you get fired up at Benavitez Morel winner

904
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: facing the winner of a rematch for.

905
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: Here, I would love that, And I don't know, think

906
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: about it. If better Bev wins again and Benavitez wins again,

907
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: you actually like that fight a little bit more because

908
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: if it was Morel versus Better Bev one, I don't

909
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: think Morel is really up for the challenge. But it's

910
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: a style contrast where one slicks, there's going to be

911
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: on the outside and Bivall is going to be centered.

912
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: Benavitez wants to do the exact same thing. I mean,

913
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: they're different styles, but at the core they both want

914
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: to march the other guy down. Well, someone's gonna have

915
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: to give that up in that fight. I would fucking

916
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: love to see who comes out of that there.

917
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 5: That's probably the best iteration. But don't discount if Beval

918
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: wins in a rematch with Better Beev how good a

919
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: fight with him and Benavillez can be. And this standpoint,

920
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: Benavidez claims and everyone else that was there when they

921
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: sparred that time, that Benavidez was putting it on him,

922
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: So you got to take that with a grain of

923
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: salt however you feel. But I've seen multiple interviews with

924
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: Benavillez doesn't brag about it, but he's like, yeah, I

925
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 5: was giving it to him. What do you think about that?

926
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: I think sparring is one thing, fighting is another. But

927
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: it certainly makes me intrigue to want to see that.

928
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I would I mean, there's no iteration of that I

929
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: would turn down. Even if it's bivoal Morale. I would

930
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: take that. I mean, there's all the combinations work. I'm

931
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: just simply saying the one that the most rugged is

932
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: a better Bev versus Benavidez.

933
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: Holy shit, Man, shouldn't we We got to move on, okay,

934
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: but shouldn't we at least give Canelo the respect and

935
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: say the loss of Bevo came to that stretch when

936
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: his left arm was injured and he didn't get Sergeriana

937
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: and he couldn't give his all in training camp. I'm

938
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 5: not saying that as an excuse, because he he made

939
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: the decision to catch those checks and going with those fights,

940
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: and most of those he won. It was just during

941
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 5: that stretch where we thought he was getting over.

942
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: You really think he'd win more rounds in a rematch.

943
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, should we give you think he'd win

944
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: more rounds in a rematch then he.

945
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 5: Did the first time. YEA, yeah, I do think he'd

946
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 5: win more rounds in a rematch.

947
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't the same. I think he'd be about the same.

948
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 5: We'll see. Because you know, money talks.

949
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: It does talk. That is true, very true. All right,

950
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: let's go to point number two. There were some UFC

951
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: fights over the weekend. In fact, the main event at

952
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: the Apex or UC Vegas ninety eight was sensational. Brandon

953
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 1: Reyval getting the win, and it was a tough one

954
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: to do, but he gutted it out over Tetsuro Tyra.

955
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: He wins via split decision, probably should have been unanimous,

956
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: but nevertheless eight heading into the fifth BC, that was

957
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: a two two fight, if ever there was one. My

958
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: question for you is okay one your biggest takeaway from this.

959
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: But the second part is he's now lost to the

960
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: current champ, which is to I know he's got a

961
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: fight coming against Kyosakora. We'll talk about that in a minute,

962
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: but if it ends up being him, he's already lost

963
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: to him twice, So what did he actually get from

964
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: this biggest takeaway? What did he get?

965
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: Okay, First and foremost, with a bang, he showed us

966
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: and reminded us that he's still a threat to this

967
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 5: title despite going up there on the title level losing

968
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 5: a competitive decision to Pantosia in their rematch. Yes, he

969
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 5: was has the potential to be behind the eight ball,

970
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: but you know, obviously in Roy Vall's house, they're going

971
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: to be. They're gonna be Temi Sikassikura moving forward to

972
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: hope that that gives him. I think he secured the

973
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 5: next shot at the belt, unless it is Pantosia, and

974
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 5: unless there isn't somebody else. I mean, did KKF get

975
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 5: screwed in this decision? In the title picture, there's another

976
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 5: big name that.

977
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: We don't know if he got offered it and couldn't

978
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: take it, or something else could be going on.

979
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 5: I mean, at the very look he's rovol is going

980
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: to get another big fight. It's a what a gutsy

981
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 5: performance from both fighters, and what I love the most

982
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 5: this was the perfect style contrast. It almost had Holme

983
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 5: versus Tate vibes in the sense that they took turns

984
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: completely dominating with their lead skill, only to lose Who's

985
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: the next round as dominantly in the other way, it

986
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: had fight of the year vibes. I thought in that

987
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: third round, which was batshit crazy with momentum switched out

988
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: of nowhere. But I think ultimately roy Vall, despite having

989
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 5: problems on the ground against a dynamic rappler in Tyra,

990
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: he was more game, more gutsy, and he showed that

991
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 5: veteran streak in him and saying I'm gonna have to

992
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: win this close fight and this is my way to

993
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: do it. Him in round five, being that stubborn to

994
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 5: keep his back off the ground or when he was

995
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: taken down to immediately work back up, showed you the

996
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 5: dog inside the raw dog, where at the very least

997
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 5: he held serve that he's the status you have to

998
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: beat to get to the title, and if things go

999
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 5: his way in terms of the future, he might actually

1000
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: be next. Because I thought it was that strong of

1001
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: a performance against a guy who was being groomed to

1002
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 5: be great. And then you add in that sensational promo

1003
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: he cut afterwards, which we can't show because they'll take

1004
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: us down again. The UFC will. But Luke, I thought

1005
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: that he showed humility in saying that Tyra is a

1006
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 5: future champion and offering to help him and train him

1007
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 5: and whatever. I hadn't realized that these two sparred in

1008
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 5: the past, which gave roy Vaal the confidence that he

1009
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 5: thought he was going to knock him out early. All

1010
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: in all, Luke, this was tremendous theater. This fight was awesome.

1011
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 5: Do you think it ends in the Fight of the

1012
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 5: Year consideration?

1013
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: It might make the list. I don't think it can't

1014
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: win it, but it will definitely. It definitely is a

1015
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: phenomenal contest. You know what I loved about it one

1016
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: It's going to be a big learning lesson for Tyro

1017
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: that third round you talk about when the momentum shift,

1018
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: he was getting eaten a lot at all. I mean,

1019
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: he is going to have to go. Like what I

1020
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: like about this one is, for example, you know, I

1021
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: don't want to the comparisons don't make a lot of

1022
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: sense for a lot of reasons. I don't want to

1023
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: compare it to better be Bevoll. But any changes that

1024
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: those guys make are going to be very very narrow specific.

1025
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: The good news if you're Tyra is that like, it's

1026
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: no mystery why you lost. Like we're sitting here trying

1027
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: to parse, like, well, maybe the judges favorite this part

1028
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: and that part. It's very easy to understand why Tyra lost.

1029
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: In part he was too reliant on the takedown, some

1030
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: of his finishing needs work, and on the feet, holy shit,

1031
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't move his head and that nearly caught. It

1032
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: nearly cost him the fight. But two things I want

1033
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: to say. One, Tyra's showing the guts to survive that, yes,

1034
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: and then win the next round.

1035
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 5: Really think about it. The third round was so crazy

1036
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: because after he got rocked and was on the verge

1037
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 5: of getting stopped by roy Val, he started to just

1038
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 5: throw such crazy haymakers that would turn into desperate takedown

1039
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: attempts that it took a couple desperate attempts that led

1040
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: to him. Remember he grabbed the arm of Orebell and

1041
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 5: just dragged him down. Yep, that's not only what saved

1042
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 5: him from getting stopped, but then within seconds he's threatening

1043
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: and he's moving around, and suddenly he's in position to

1044
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: joke his moxie under high duress and even being wobbled

1045
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: and hurt to be able to never stop finding an

1046
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 5: angle to try to win the fight. Roy Vall knows

1047
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 5: what he saw and what he felt in there. That's

1048
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: championship Maxie. It is.

1049
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: I remember when Evan Tanner fought Phil Baroni the first time,

1050
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: and after the fight was he barely survived an onslaught

1051
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: from Phil Baroni. Phil Barroni in Mexican jail for allegedly

1052
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: killing someone I think his girlfriend at the time.

1053
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: Anyway, neither here nor there.

1054
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: That's a real fact. But the point I want to

1055
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: make was that if you go back and you watch

1056
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: the post fight interview, the first thing Evan Tanner says is,

1057
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: holy shit, that guy hits hard. First thing Brandon Reyvill

1058
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: says in this one is that guy's a future champion,

1059
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: And he's right. You can get better with the head movement,

1060
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: you absolutely can. He can work on that. But the

1061
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: grit he showed to survive.

1062
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 5: There were like.

1063
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: Two and a half minutes left and he's getting teed

1064
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: off on by Brandon Reyville, and he managed to survive

1065
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: and then win the next round.

1066
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: But this was said, it choke a few times.

1067
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: Tyro for sure. For Shore, I don't want to any

1068
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: way underrated. It had a great second round performance obviously

1069
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: as well. But this is what I loved about Brandon

1070
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Rouvl's whatever as much as I liked about Tyra. He's

1071
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: got time to improve, he knows exactly what has to

1072
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: get better, and he showed a ton of fucking dog.

1073
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: But Brandon Reyville, starting strong, had a bad second round,

1074
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: came out and put it on him on round three,

1075
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: had a guy who would not go away in round four,

1076
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: But in round five, when it counted the most, he

1077
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: dug deep into his veteran bag of tricks and understanding

1078
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: about where in fights to breast the gas, where to

1079
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: press the brake, and he took that fight by the

1080
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: scruff of the neck. And that is why they won,

1081
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: because they were pretty evenly matched.

1082
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 5: He listened to his corner, to his corner, a very

1083
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 5: very coachable guy.

1084
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: But what I want to make was that was heading

1085
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: into the fifth round.

1086
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 5: You knew it was to too, you knew it was.

1087
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: A gut check moment. And one of them was able

1088
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: to really go deep into that experience, and it was

1089
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Reuville who did it.

1090
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 5: Dude.

1091
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: This is a great fight, and what a job well

1092
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: done by the raw dog himself.

1093
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: And the raw dog having the emotional promo but going

1094
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 5: cutting right to the corn, making a case for himself

1095
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: and saying nobody in this division has as many wins

1096
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 5: over people in the top five as I do. He

1097
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 5: makes it. I mean, he's got a great case to

1098
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: make from the standpoint that the only people to beat

1099
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: him in the UFC of moreno on Pantosia, the last

1100
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 5: two champions. I don't want to see him callup behind

1101
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 5: the eight ball, but he may end up having to

1102
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: fight at KKF for somebody if Pantosia's stays champion, right, if.

1103
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Pintotia stay's champion. The KKAF situation, I'm not sure how

1104
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: they want to resolve that, but I would say this,

1105
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 1: like Brandon Royvill to me, does it need to fight

1106
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: again before he gets a title shot. I don't know

1107
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: if that's what he wants. I don't know if that's

1108
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: what the UFC wants.

1109
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 5: He's no longer being that cheap ass ho he said

1110
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: it right, He's not going to pick up that.

1111
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Then he's like, I'll fight anybody. I'll be the backup.

1112
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but don't do those things either. But

1113
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: either way, either way, what a phenomenal performance. By him.

1114
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: But I do want to point out one thing again.

1115
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: We talk about the judging, and because the Commission won't

1116
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: talk to us, we have really no way of understanding

1117
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: the full context. Here. Put up the graphic we have

1118
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: if you can look on Luke. Now, these are the

1119
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: decisions here from UFC.

1120
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 5: Six split decisions on which was a record by the way,

1121
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 5: I think for the ap right. Not all of these

1122
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: are split. There's a few unanimous.

1123
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: But I want it's not all the decisions that I

1124
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: want you to pay attention to. Look at the highlighted

1125
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: Salda Moatto. He was on the so if it's highlighted

1126
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: in yellow, that means he's on the opposite of how

1127
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the other two judges scored it. So he had for example,

1128
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: in the Pilasterie versus McKenna fight, he had a for McKenna,

1129
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: which was wrong. He was dead wrong, dead wrong.

1130
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 5: Uh.

1131
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: And the Rodriguez versus Morono fight he had it for Moreno,

1132
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: which is also a little sketch. And then in this

1133
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: one in the Tyro reroyvill fight, he had it for

1134
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: Tyro BC. What three rounds could you give to Tyra.

1135
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 5: Definitely else three because three was the the round he

1136
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 5: got fucking tuned up in he must have been giving

1137
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: him the credit for taking him down and threatening that

1138
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: choke down the stretch there, and I don't I think

1139
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: it is wrong. I mean, so, let's see the three

1140
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: fights in one night, which means you went O for three,

1141
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 5: you struck out three strikes, you're up.

1142
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. I don't

1143
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: mind if one guy is the outlier. If you can

1144
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: kind of understand it three times, okay, I admit it's

1145
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a red flag if you do it

1146
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: three times. I'm just saying, what are the three rounds

1147
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: for Tyro? You can't find them? This is this is

1148
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: my point.

1149
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 5: Could you argue the fifth? I think you would be

1150
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 5: wrong in arguing the fifth, But could you argue the fifth?

1151
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He had his back taken. He

1152
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: was getting beat up on from there as well too,

1153
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Like I just don't see how he.

1154
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 5: Knows God early in round five two, so that.

1155
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: You know what, Actually, I can find the scorecard if

1156
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: you give me a minute here from the UFC. Let's see.

1157
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can find it. Yes, I can

1158
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: find it. Give me one. I'm gonna look it up.

1159
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: Here scorecards.

1160
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: Take all the time you need, Luke. You know I

1161
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 5: get paid by the hour.

1162
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Do we I don't? All right, hold on, here we go.

1163
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: So here is the scorecard for the Brandon Royville and

1164
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: Tetsuro Tyra fight. Let me blow this up here. If

1165
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: I can't, good lord, dude, I can't see four shit anything.

1166
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, Okay, I blew it

1167
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: up here. So Saldamato gave round one to Tyra, round

1168
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: two to Tyra, and round four. How the fuck do

1169
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: you give round one to Tyra?

1170
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 5: One? Okay, two?

1171
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: That is round three he gave it to obviously Brandon Royvale.

1172
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: He gave around.

1173
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 5: You could go as far even though Tyra did land

1174
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: a couple of big right hands. You could go as

1175
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 5: far as say as Royvalt dominated the striking in round

1176
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: one and wasn't taken down. I don't believe.

1177
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: I thought he had not just a winning first round,

1178
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: a strong first that was.

1179
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 5: That was a dominant first round. Ye. So this guy,

1180
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 5: this guy's terrible scorecard. The McKennon one. I don't know

1181
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 5: what cares on the Corey mckennall. Wan I do, because

1182
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: I'm a big Poppins fan.

1183
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: Luke.

1184
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 5: But she she did. You know, she lost that fight

1185
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 5: two to one, seemingly on everyone's card, and that guy,

1186
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 5: that guy had her winning the fight.

1187
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty gross. Do you see anything else from that

1188
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: score that that event that stood out to you?

1189
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: I tried not to let too much of it, Luke,

1190
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: to be honest with you.

1191
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go.

1192
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 5: I mean no, seriously, I mean it was a I mean,

1193
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 5: would you say it played out to be a pretty

1194
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 5: shitty card?

1195
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't expecting much. You know,

1196
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: these Apex cards. I'm like, my general posture on Apex

1197
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: cards is they're all going to be bad, and so

1198
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: when they are occasionally good or a good fight comes

1199
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: from it, I'm like, hey, what a nice surprise.

1200
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: What about Justin Tafa getting that big knockout on the undercard? Yeah,

1201
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 5: that was not a great junior. I'm sorry, I should

1202
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: take the tour of Tafa for that. Yeah, there you go,

1203
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 5: get but he came back right.

1204
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: They were both huffing and puffing at the end, there

1205
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: were they not?

1206
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 3: They both did that looked like data? Himbo?

1207
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: Did you know what it looked like? It looked like

1208
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Robbie lawl or carlos kandit except that fight was great.

1209
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 5: That's the so it looked like Robbie Lawler Nick Dyas too.

1210
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 5: Is really what you're saying.

1211
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: Not even that good? Just dude, These APEX cards, like

1212
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: there are some good fights. There are some good fighters obviously,

1213
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: but I don't know folks having like Raptor. It's just

1214
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: UFC overflow content.

1215
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 5: He a, but no, Cedd, were you the Pulastri the

1216
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: Brazilian chick that beat mckennah. She's looking like she's a

1217
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 5: good fighter, like like down the line.

1218
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna be honest, I missed that fight. I

1219
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: missed the first few.

1220
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: Nobody watches Women's Man apparently.

1221
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: Shout out to Pat Sabatini. He had a nice win.

1222
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 3: Also that Flyway dude Temarov, he looked really good.

1223
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: Yep. There again, there's gonna be some decent talent on

1224
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: these cards at all times and then the occasional good

1225
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: to really good fight, but it's mostly just the UFC overflow.

1226
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: These are guys that we have on roster because we

1227
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: need this for the larger content plan. Not that in good. Yeah,

1228
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: it's this is just completely down track.

1229
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 5: But Daniel Rodriguez needed that decision over more.

1230
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: No, he did, he gutted it out. That was a

1231
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: nice win by him as well, all things being what

1232
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: they were. He's getting a little bit older, too long

1233
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: in the tooth, so you know, Moreno, I think is

1234
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: a guy who has really worked hard to maximize his potential, but.

1235
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: He alternates win the losses every fight he does.

1236
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: He is like just at this level, you know what

1237
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean? Like it is what it is, but a

1238
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: good test in certain ways for the right kind of fight.

1239
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: With that at mind, BC, let's talk about topic number three.

1240
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm much more excited about this one.

1241
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you lost interest in talking about the undercard aggressively.

1242
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: You were like you fuck that?

1243
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: What do you want me to say? Like, I don't.

1244
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't have much bandwidth for UFC overflow content. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

1245
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: I just don't.

1246
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 5: That's why you don't watch DWCS.

1247
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: Right again to the I used to I used to

1248
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: love watching the Contender series, but now I watch it

1249
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: and two things happen. One, you do see great prospects.

1250
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: You also see some fucking bums getting contracts, and that

1251
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: happens way more often.

1252
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: For it's only twelve and twelve that they can And

1253
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: I see.

1254
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: The bums getting contracts way more often than I see

1255
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: somebody really really good. It's really quite dispirit.

1256
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 5: I think they throw people into the water too quickly though.

1257
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 5: Coming out of here.

1258
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's guys you know, four and oh, five and oh.

1259
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: It's like, you don't need unless you're really special. You

1260
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: don't need to be five and oh in the UFC,

1261
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: you need to be fifteen and two or something like

1262
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: that before you get there. I just again, I can't

1263
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: say that everyone comes out of there as bad, but like,

1264
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: the amount of just completely unimpressive talent getting contracts is

1265
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: just like, why the fuck do I want to spend

1266
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: time watching that big roster?

1267
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: But they got a lot of dates to fill.

1268
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: They got a lot and again, all look, this guy

1269
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: was on there, he's really good. That is true. There

1270
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: are some good fighters that come out of there, and

1271
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: there's no question, but a lot of bums. All right, BC,

1272
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: let's talk about topic number three. So UFC three ten

1273
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: got announced by UFC President Dana White, which of course

1274
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: means that some of these fights may not be signed,

1275
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: and we're just talking about them like they are signed.

1276
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, let's talk about them just the same Okay,

1277
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I want to go through this card. Put up the

1278
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: graphic if you can't long Island Luke so we can

1279
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: see it here. So what got announced was for the

1280
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: UFC Welterweight title, Blal Muhammad taken on Shopcut Rockmanov your

1281
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: co main event, Aleschandre Pantoja taken on Cai Asakura Kayasa Kora,

1282
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: one of the guys making his UFC debut at a

1283
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: title shot. This has happened many times in the past,

1284
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: but obviously more recently is very very rare. Sure that'll

1285
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: be for the Flyway title. As I mentioned, you're gonna

1286
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: get the rematch between Cyril Gon and Alexander Volkov Vi

1287
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: Sente Luke will finally lock horns with a forty year

1288
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: old plus Nick Diaz. Why. However, however, in a very

1289
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: interesting bout moves are Aloyev taken on al Jamin Sterling.

1290
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: Obviously Stirling up at one forty five. Now this is

1291
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: essentially certainly for Ivloyev a number one contenders fight BC

1292
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: two questions for you.

1293
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: And there's another. There's another great women's fight on there too,

1294
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 5: uh Janger Roba.

1295
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: Yes, taken on Suarez. Yes, that is right, and some

1296
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: other ones as well. There's there's more than that just

1297
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: as well. Josha Van's on that card, I think against

1298
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: Cody Durtin. I believe that's right. In any case, well,

1299
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: what we saw there, give me a rating on this

1300
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: card because I know what you're gonna say, and I

1301
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: think this is the one topic where I feel like

1302
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: you're completely wrong, But go ahead.

1303
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 5: I had a lot of arguments about this card since

1304
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 5: it was announced. Yes, and it's like you can go like, okay,

1305
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: from the hardcore side, Yeah, it's a deep card with

1306
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 5: fights I want to see. So it's by no means

1307
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 5: an awful card. I just feel like for everything we

1308
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: talk about, the water down of the matchmaking and the

1309
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 5: loss of the next level star power and crossover ability,

1310
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: and just that it feels very manufactured at times. It's

1311
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 5: used to be a major This was the New Year's

1312
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 5: Eve Vegas card that now in the ESPN era is

1313
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the month. I just think it

1314
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 5: lacks star power and it kind of is like a

1315
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 5: editorial on where they're at, you know what I mean, Like,

1316
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: didn't you expect Macha for this? You know what I'm saying, Like,

1317
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: and I know what you're gonna say, well, these are

1318
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 5: not bad fights, dude. I want to see Osacar in

1319
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 5: this fight like hell against Pantosia. I want to see

1320
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 5: if it Shofcut's time to put on the crown. I

1321
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 5: just feel like this is the purest example of the

1322
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 5: era that we're in and people are just like, yeah,

1323
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: but I'm happy at least it's deep and there's fights.

1324
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 5: I like, this doesn't have that star factor. I mean,

1325
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 5: where's McGregor, you know what I mean? You know what

1326
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Look like this would be the time for

1327
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: that that it used to have, where I don't know

1328
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 5: if there is majors anymore, maybe outside of MSG and

1329
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: the annual October Abu Dhabi card which gets the best matchmaking.

1330
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 5: It just was a little I mean, am I allowed

1331
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 5: from a I mean not a casual side of my

1332
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 5: white belt heart, but from like a business side, slash

1333
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 5: job security side, like hit me with the big ones

1334
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: that are going to draw the attention and crossover. It's

1335
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 5: not that era anymore. But don't you feel that at

1336
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 5: all that there's like, like who's selling this card? Look

1337
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 5: the UFC brand and the depth and the fact that

1338
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 5: a major you b shop got tonight. I get that,

1339
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 5: but should we care anymore like that? This used to

1340
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: kind of mean something and it would be somebody here

1341
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 5: that it's like, damn, I got it. I have to

1342
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 5: see that. Let's you know, this is not a let's

1343
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 5: get the friends together and do the trip the weekend

1344
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 5: trip card. It's a hardcore card in the December major spot.

1345
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 5: That's the last I'll say on that. I am disappointed,

1346
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 5: though not madam, just disappointed.

1347
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel disappointed at all. Now. I cannot in

1348
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: any way challenge one of the arguments that you made,

1349
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: which is kind of your core argument. But does this

1350
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: card lack star power? Yes? It does. There really isn't

1351
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: an argument around even must see like oh no, I

1352
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: disagree with that.

1353
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: I really very good fights, but not musty like like

1354
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: Tiporia Holloway, Oh my god, is must sy even Tremia.

1355
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 5: Robert Whittaker to me has like Musky Field.

1356
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: On what planet? Is Shapcott Rockmanoff fighting for the welterweight title?

1357
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: Not must sye. I mean we're talking.

1358
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 5: About the main event though, of one of the for major.

1359
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: The welterweight title is up for grabs against one of

1360
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: the if not the most contender in the entire sport. Irrespect,

1361
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: But we don't.

1362
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 5: Confuse the two arguments here. I'm not talking about that

1363
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 5: the fight sucks and that we don't need it. No,

1364
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: it's going to show us a lot that we want

1365
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: to see.

1366
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: I think there's two problems.

1367
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 5: No, you can't you can't fight my note the star argument.

1368
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 5: By talking how good that fight is on a hardcore level,

1369
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the.

1370
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just that when I break up

1371
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: shoft Cut. Yes, I do think that on a hardcore level,

1372
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: shot Cut will be exciting. I do think he will win.

1373
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: Although I do I wreck people think, Oh, I think

1374
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna People assume that because I like Rockmanov, I

1375
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: think he's gonna run over ball All. I don't think that.

1376
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: I think Bullall can make him human. My early read

1377
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: on this PC, if you disagree about I mean to

1378
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: say so. My early read is you can't leave Rockmanov

1379
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: hanging around for twenty five minutes without paying a very

1380
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: stiff penalty for it. I just feel like that.

1381
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: But Campbell all gas and control him, that'll be the.

1382
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: I think for I think for parts of the fight

1383
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: he absolutely can. I just feel like you cannot let

1384
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: a guy like that hang around for twenty five minutes

1385
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: and not pay a very stiff penalty.

1386
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 5: And I don't want to be the you know, the

1387
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 5: cry baby here standing on the corner with the sign.

1388
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 5: So let's shelf the no.

1389
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: I think you speak for some fans, don't. I don't.

1390
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 1: I don't think you're being crazy. The lack of star

1391
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: power is it's not a problem with this card. It's

1392
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: partly a problem with certain guys not being available with

1393
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: the moment. That's partly.

1394
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 5: You know, Where's why, Lee? Why is this not way? Lee? Tatiana.

1395
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: She wouldn't change the star power equation, I'm not, but

1396
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: it would upgrade it. Yeah, it would upgrade it a

1397
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: little bit, certainly. But then you'd have to Yeah, you

1398
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: could say you could sub that one in and change

1399
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: out the Komaine. By the way, the Komain is going

1400
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: to be a banger, Kayas Kora is a limited fighter,

1401
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: but a talented one and a dominant dominant puncher.

1402
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 5: So Antoje is in his dog era where he's just

1403
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 5: not taking shit.

1404
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: He will take risks as well. Like that's going to

1405
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: be a great fight. I'm actually kind of curious to

1406
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: see how that one goes. But let me just say this, like,

1407
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: put the card back up one more time if you

1408
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: can look let's just look at it from a from

1409
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: an overall standpoint. You have two title fights, including one

1410
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: of the most prestigious titles that they have, which I

1411
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: do believe historically speaking, Walter Waite is one of their

1412
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: more prestige weight classes. I recognize that some people are

1413
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: not as enthusiastic about Bala Muhammad, but it is a

1414
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: division of record number one. That's the first thing I'd say.

1415
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: Second of all, Gone versus Volkov, the second of these,

1416
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: is not necessarily off the off the rip the most

1417
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: exciting fight though, but it is an important fight to

1418
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: move this division forward, especially as John and Stepe right

1419
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: off into the Suns.

1420
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 5: Have changed since their first matchup in terms of where

1421
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 5: they both stand that I am interested.

1422
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: In one hundred percent. Volkov has earned this and there's

1423
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: some questions about God, yes, now, Luca versus DS to me,

1424
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: is the weakness of this card.

1425
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 5: Let me ask you.

1426
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: Let me just get through very quickly. I do agree,

1427
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: it is the weakness of this card. I don't have

1428
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: much to say in defense of it. It'll probably be

1429
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: as exciting as long as it lasts. However, you have

1430
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: and of Lloyd versus Stirling a essentially a number one

1431
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: contenders fight. So what I'm trying to point out here

1432
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: is on paper two title fights, arguably two number one

1433
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: contender fights. That's what you want UFC to put together

1434
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: for a December pay per view and the Rock Mono fight.

1435
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one more time, he is arguably the

1436
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: most exciting contender in all of MMA. I gotta tell

1437
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: you pants around the ankles for this one, dude.

1438
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about the quality of the depth and

1439
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 5: how good these fights could be. It was almost two

1440
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 5: separate arguments in one, but it went across the board. Now,

1441
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 5: would you have preferred that that was a Nick Dz

1442
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 5: Tony Ferguson, like, not lose your leavestown, both leave town,

1443
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 5: Like we'll celebrate them on the way out of a

1444
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 5: sloppy action fight.

1445
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: I I don't. I'm not interested in seeing Nick Dias fight.

1446
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not.

1447
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: Sounds like I'm trying to like. Nick Dad has changed little.

1448
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: He changed the fight world, both in the fight itself,

1449
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: in the fights themselves, and then outside with some of

1450
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: his battles with commissions around marijuana, Like he actually has

1451
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: played a very important role in the fight game, but

1452
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: I I'm not interested in watching him get.

1453
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 5: But he's on this main card to do some level

1454
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 5: of damage control for a lack of of a of

1455
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 5: a of a crossover selling.

1456
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: He's the biggest star on the car. Yes, I mean

1457
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's the reality here, which kind of

1458
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: tells you about the state of the UFC's current roster.

1459
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: What's really happening is they just don't have a lot

1460
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: of stars in the way that they might have had

1461
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: access to a different set of players before, and then

1462
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: they have a lot of cards to fill. That's another problem.

1463
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 5: I think the strategy doesn't create stars, and I don't

1464
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 5: think they compared to what they used to do, they

1465
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 5: don't play into that and invest in building this that's

1466
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: a very well you can say some of that is

1467
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 5: because the fighters have their own platforms now, so it's

1468
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 5: a different ballgame altogether. But whatever, mine.

1469
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: Seemingly true that they don't try to build stars quite

1470
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: with the.

1471
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 5: Same media tours all that kind of Yeah.

1472
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: Again, when they were very reliant on pay per view

1473
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: money and they needed to have these big pronounced wins

1474
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: on these dates on the calendars. They obviously still would

1475
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: like to do well, but it's not as much of

1476
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: an imperative, and so promoting it in that kind of way,

1477
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: or building stars in that way is not as much

1478
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: of an imperative, and you're now seeing the fruits of that.

1479
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm simply pointing out I kind of have accepted that

1480
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: reality to a degree. We are where we are, and

1481
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: so what can you ask of the UFC given this

1482
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: is what I mean, Like, there's nobody challenging their business model.

1483
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: Nobody can challenge their business model. So you're just gonna

1484
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: get what you're gonna get them putting two title fights

1485
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: and then arguably two number one contender bolts on the card,

1486
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: that's what you can expect from them, and they did

1487
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: deliver that. I'm gonna and I think Rockmanov I think

1488
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: could be a big oversea star for them. I'm told

1489
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: that in Kazakhstan he's the biggest star in that country,

1490
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: behind only Triple G. Triple G is bigger, fair enough,

1491
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: but Rockmanov is right behind him.

1492
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 5: There's something valuable, absolutely, And when I take the stances

1493
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 5: like that, it's almost as a watchman of the old

1494
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 5: guard of eras that don't exist anymore. And I get

1495
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 5: to some of you, it's like, enough of that's our

1496
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 5: grapes and just enjoy the fights. But Luke, isn't some

1497
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 5: of it just being like, I don't want to see

1498
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 5: this sport become a microwave for bringing new fans in

1499
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: for six months and driving them out. You know what

1500
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 5: I mean. You want to see the business you work

1501
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 5: in be as big and grand, as insuccessful as possible,

1502
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 5: and I especially this calendar year, you just don't. You

1503
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 5: don't feel that. You feel like there's areas like make

1504
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 5: you know, capitalize on the John Jones aspinall. Capitalize on this,

1505
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 5: capitalize on the things you can control, rather than just

1506
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 5: like no, we have to fill as many dates as

1507
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 5: possible and stretch it out. And this is what it's

1508
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 5: gonna look like. Yeah, it's it is the reality. I

1509
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 5: gotta get over it and get with it. But I do.

1510
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 5: I do yearn for it to be what it at

1511
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 5: full capacity, what it could be, but it's it's not

1512
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 5: set up to be that anymore.

1513
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: So shut the hell up, rules, Luke, give me a

1514
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: one to ten grading of this card.

1515
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm got to give it an eight. I think it's

1516
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: pretty solid.

1517
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: You guys are fucking tough crowd.

1518
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 5: What do you give I'll give it.

1519
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: Better than three oh seven, I'll say that much.

1520
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's not saying a lot. Three seven

1521
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: was kind of nubs. You know, three eight's fantastic.

1522
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: Three O eight is great. I mean one of the majors.

1523
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: Know it's Jones and uh that's which is the most

1524
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: unnecessary fight imaginable. But Chandler versus Oldavera two some good

1525
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: fights on that card anyway. I just feel like this

1526
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: car for me. If Rockmanoff goes in there and finishes him,

1527
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 1: you would have somebody who was undefeated and finished every

1528
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: opponent all the way through winning a UFC weight class

1529
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: title like that is extremely special, extremely rare.

1530
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 5: Now it would also be pretty awesome and special on

1531
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 5: a smaller scale. The same way if Ossacura in a

1532
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 5: pro debut, I know everyone's digging up the UFCA debut,

1533
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: not pro, right, I met UFC deb I guess I

1534
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: know everyone's digging up the stats of this has happened

1535
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 5: this many times, whatever twenty two or twenty three, But

1536
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 5: so many of those circumstances are tied to.

1537
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically only three in the modern area.

1538
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 5: Right, so many year tied to either the old way

1539
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 5: or when Pride was done, and people are coming in

1540
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 5: and making their UFC debut that this is really interesting.

1541
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 5: It speaks to the where the division's at too. I mean,

1542
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 5: this division's wild, man. I love it.

1543
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: Also, I'll just say this, like Kayasakora was the rise

1544
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: In bantamweight champion. He beat one archer Letta. That's why

1545
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: we were confused previously when talking about because I was like,

1546
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: didn't he just fight in a bantamweight fight? He did,

1547
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: and he won that title. He gave it up obviously,

1548
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: I think to ultimately lead the way for this signing,

1549
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: he must have had some indication that's where he was

1550
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: going to be going. The point I want to make

1551
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: was I kind of like it like a champion from

1552
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: another organization versus a champion in the UFC. UFC used

1553
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: to lean MMA organizations more generally used to lean into

1554
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: that a little bit more. I kind of dig that

1555
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: as a bit of a throwback way to do things. Obviously,

1556
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: it's not on the line, so you know, it's.

1557
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 5: About Asakura roival for the title at Sayitama Super Arena.

1558
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: Listen, I think he's earned it. I think he's earned it.

1559
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 5: Got to win it first.

1560
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: And they don't go to Tokyo, that's where they always go.

1561
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: They aways go to, say Thomas Super Arena. I don't

1562
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: know how the Japanese would treat a raw dog named Fighter,

1563
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: but I love.

1564
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 5: That his his new catchphrases, Uh was it for baby six?

1565
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 5: Baby mamas? That's what he always says. This is like

1566
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 5: his joke like when people ask what the nickname?

1567
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh right, I wasn't listening during that.

1568
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 5: Most or most of the show, but that's fine.

1569
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean there's only so much Brian Camp.

1570
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I know they made a whole channel

1571
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: to contain all of it these days. Man, I should

1572
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 5: never have shaved Luke. You know what I mean? You see,

1573
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, just be honest. You know, my

1574
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 5: dad had a big mustache my whole life, and two

1575
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 5: times in my youth he shaved it and it like

1576
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 5: freaked us.

1577
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: All.

1578
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen the videos of like dads shaving

1579
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: their faces and then going up to their babies or

1580
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: toddlers and scaring them them?

1581
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: What would it take for you to shave that off?

1582
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 5: What would it take, because you would never have the

1583
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 5: guts to put your beard on the line in any type.

1584
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: Of shiite, like a house fire, you know what I mean,

1585
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: Like it would have to like bake me.

1586
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 5: Oh like you like they burned half your face, You're like, sure,

1587
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to shave the rest of it's.

1588
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: Gonna look yeah, yeah, it's someone throwing acid in my

1589
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 1: face or something.

1590
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 5: You know what do you think you would look like?

1591
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 5: Do you ever think about that?

1592
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: Because you I was in the Marine Corps the entire

1593
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: time without one.

1594
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, without your face. Your shape was just different.

1595
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: You were young, Yeah, I don't Probably terrible. Probably it's

1596
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: like a like a turtle without a shell. Who the

1597
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: fuck wants to see that?

1598
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 5: It's like when Chuck took off his hat at that

1599
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 5: time when he was on camera.

1600
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,439
Speaker 1: I I was like Darth Vader.

1601
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 5: Is that you bec very quickly?

1602
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: Let's go down the list early predictions. Gun to your head.

1603
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: You have total right to change your mind from now

1604
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: and to then. Rochmanov Muhammad, it's Rockmanov's time, all right.

1605
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: Asakura and Pantoja.

1606
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 5: You know I'm waiting for Pantosha is like recent I'm

1607
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 5: gonna take all the damage no matter what, and is

1608
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 5: how I'm going to win these fights to catch up

1609
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 5: with him at this age. He's a dog though. I mean,

1610
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna still lead Pantosia to get it done.

1611
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: But I want to see what guy has upset potential

1612
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: for sure, Yes he does the cyril Gone and Volkov too.

1613
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 5: I don't know. This would be a great moment for

1614
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 5: cyril Gon to come back offensively and completely remind us

1615
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 5: who he used to be and can still be at times.

1616
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 5: I doubt sometimes if that guy's still in there, this

1617
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 5: would be the matchup because he has the one dominant

1618
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: advantage he needs in this, which is speed compared to

1619
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 5: how slow Volcoff is. Even though Volkoff is smart and

1620
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 5: tough crap and just really seemed to round out his

1621
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 5: game of late to try to get the most he

1622
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 5: can out of it, but I think that speed difference

1623
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 5: really hurts him still even in this rematch.

1624
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: Luke and Diaz Luk yeah, probably. And then lastly at

1625
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: Loie and Sterling.

1626
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 5: A great fight, that's a great fight that feels so

1627
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty to me of.

1628
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: Any very fifty to fifty because I could I think

1629
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: the better pure wrestler is a LOOIV and I think

1630
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: he's probably stronger, although Sterling is very strong. But the

1631
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: better backpacker and the quicker guy of the two is

1632
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: definitely Sterling.

1633
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 5: Aljoe always has a way to like come back after

1634
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 5: a tough fight too.

1635
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: He's a very talented guy. People want to dismiss him.

1636
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: He's a very talented guy. Something to keep in mind.

1637
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's talk about well BKFC. First of all,

1638
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: shouts to Oscar Willis.

1639
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 5: Yes, have you seen this shit? We'll have a Oscar

1640
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 5: Willis dedicated section. Okay, Bengali tiger size balls, you would

1641
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 5: go that first, both of them.

1642
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: I thought, yes, you know, getting off the canvas the

1643
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: way that Ben the Bank Davis did is not easy.

1644
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 5: Ben Davis the band got dropped four times in a

1645
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 5: first round TKO win for Oscar, and I mean, we'll

1646
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 5: certainly hit it when.

1647
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: We show se you know What' kind of funny about

1648
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: that if I could say, very quickly, like, have you

1649
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: ever been to like a regional MMA fight ever in

1650
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: your life?

1651
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: I've been to Bellator Post Slims, which is very regional.

1652
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 3: No.

1653
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking like, have you ever been inside of

1654
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: a pool hall that they just put so done, I've

1655
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: done all of that. I've seen people knocked out in parking.

1656
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 5: Club fights for Brandon Shops.

1657
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: Second, that was at least in the Eagle Bank Arena

1658
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: on the campus of George Mason. That was that was

1659
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: not like that was that was regional. But that was good.

1660
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 5: That wasn't like the parking lot outside.

1661
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I've done, dude, I went. I've called

1662
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: fights in a pool hall that was converted and a

1663
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: shooting range that was converted. Like that's that's real. That's

1664
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: real regional mma. What I want to say was, if

1665
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: you watch regional mma, it looks like what you see

1666
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: between Willis and Davis, where one guy blitzes and just

1667
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: doesn't stop firing and the other person gets overwhelmed. What

1668
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: you see from good fighters look at bivoll and for

1669
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: example be or b. We're talking like the opposite end.

1670
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: Their defense is so good that it's very hard for

1671
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: one to get the chance to really hurt the other guy.

1672
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: It's very very difficult. Whereas in the opposite end of that,

1673
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: which is what this was, the basically the first guy

1674
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: to hurt the other guy ends up winning.

1675
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 5: The name to his credit, actually landed some big shots

1676
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 5: trying to counter that blitz. Inevitably, the blitz would alway

1677
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 5: lead to him getting knocked down. Yeah, like he tried

1678
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 5: his best to wather.

1679
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you go to regional MMA, and again,

1680
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: I know this is bare knuckle, but I'm just saying,

1681
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: if you got to a regional MMA, you'll see if

1682
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: they'll have like twenty five fights on the card, fifteen

1683
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: will end just like that. Yes, fifteen will end just

1684
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: like that. So just gives you a sense of things.

1685
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: But the interesting part that came out of this BC

1686
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: was that Connor McGregor and Dan Hooker, who were in attendance.

1687
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: Hooker was in the corner of ben Vaine Davis. Sorry

1688
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: of Oscar will excuse me, I apologize. They both said

1689
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: that they're going to be fire each other in February

1690
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia. We have two clips of this I

1691
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: want to show. First, let's show the Dan Hooker clip.

1692
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 5: No, no, Connor first, this is where this is the first

1693
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 5: we heard of it.

1694
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So Connor I think spoke to he was walking

1695
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: out of there. He was walking out of the arena.

1696
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: He has asked about what he's going to be fighting.

1697
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: We have audio on this clip. I'm assuming let's roll

1698
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: that one place.

1699
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 5: What'ssage?

1700
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: What's your message of Floyd.

1701
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 5: Connor?

1702
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: We have a day for to come back yet, February for.

1703
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: Who's the opponent? Okay, so February officially he.

1704
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 5: Was walking down the hallway.

1705
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, could he have party voice more than three.

1706
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: Hundred and sixty five consecutive day.

1707
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: He hasn't been sober in a long time. All right,

1708
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: But then let's go to what Dan Hooker had to say.

1709
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: He spoke to the boys. That's or E should scuse me,

1710
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: he's poked a radio.

1711
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, the boy first say we'll get along for a Well,

1712
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 5: I think we advised very similar.

1713
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of similarities there.

1714
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're just fighting the ring and off on board.

1715
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 5: He's on board. We just need to get the UFC

1716
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 5: on board and we'll get this thing across alone.

1717
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: Okay, BC. In the words of Aaron Bronstadt, are we've

1718
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: got to fight? Except we have no date at he

1719
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 1: said February first. But there's really nothing confirmed, no promotional contract,

1720
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: no venue, know nothing. To me, it's like it's just

1721
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: two guys talking. But you seem to think that there's

1722
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: something here.

1723
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 5: I oh, no, no, okay, they just proved to you

1724
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 5: that it's two guys talking. I mean, there is video

1725
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 5: of of Dan Hooker in the ring, I don't know

1726
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: if it was after the event whatever, with a beer

1727
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 5: in his hand, and Connor and him are laughing it

1728
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 5: up and talking, and I'm sure they probably hatched the

1729
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 5: idea right there. And I'm sure Hooker came on this

1730
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 5: trip probably you know, to support Oscar for sure, but

1731
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 5: you know, was hoping this could happen. The reason why

1732
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 5: I don't like completely dismiss it is ask yourself this,

1733
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 5: who is a better opponent for Connor right now? Knowing

1734
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 5: that Chandler is gonna have the rematch with olivera coming

1735
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 5: up in MSG, Connor already said he wants to fight

1736
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 5: before that and he wants is ready to fight Chandler

1737
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 5: no matter what happens. Dan Hooker is kind of the

1738
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 5: perfect opponent. He's getting there in terms of age, but

1739
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 5: could still win a big one. He is riding a

1740
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 5: three fight win streak when he's also gonna get you

1741
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 5: into an exciting brawl and is there to be hit.

1742
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 5: I think this is actually perfect. I mean, this isn't

1743
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 5: quite Connor against that version of Cowboy, because that version

1744
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 5: of Cowboy at that time, for that comeback fight, was washed.

1745
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that this is a fight Connor could lose,

1746
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: but it's also a fight Connor could win. And given

1747
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 5: that this comeback continues to extend calendar year after calendar year,

1748
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 5: who the heck knows what version of Connor could even

1749
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 5: be produced, especially given the last three hundred and sixty

1750
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 5: five days, which all seemed to be on camera. By

1751
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 5: the way, I feel like I can prove this assumption here, Luke.

1752
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 5: I think it's perfect. I actually think in most cases

1753
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 5: I'd be like, good luck, guys. The only thing you

1754
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 5: need is the UFC is signing off, which is the

1755
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 5: everything you need. I actually feel like the if she

1756
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 5: would look at it and go, yeah, that is the

1757
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 5: perfect comeback fight. Let's make it a pay per view

1758
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 5: main event. Doesn't even matter if it's bollocks up and

1759
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 5: down the card underneath that, because this is Connor. I'm

1760
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 5: happy that Hooker can get that pay day that he's

1761
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 5: at this point right now, three fight win streak, Let's

1762
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 5: do it. I see nothing wrong about this one.

1763
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: I like the I really like the fight. If they

1764
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: made it, I'd be totally happy. I'm skeptical that they

1765
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: make it because I don't know if he's a big

1766
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: enough B side Hooker is a legend in Australia and

1767
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: he's well known to hard course here. He is not

1768
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: a big name in the United States.

1769
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 5: What did Connor say Saudi he wanted it in?

1770
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: Or do you say abid he said Saudi Arabia? Are

1771
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: they really going to put Connor McGregor in Saudi Arabia?

1772
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believe they won't even put Connor.

1773
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 5: What if Turkey's basically like, I'll pay for Connor.

1774
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: Turkey pays for it, new ball game, New ball game? Okay,

1775
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: fair enough.

1776
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 5: Don't you think Riadison would want Connor McGregor's first appearance

1777
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 5: to be you know.

1778
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: But they're going to have to pay premium for that,

1779
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: and I don't premium. They do they do again? They could?

1780
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: It is certain certainly with saud Arabia anything as possible.

1781
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: They could do that. I don't know if they would,

1782
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: but they could. But the point I'm trying to make

1783
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: is I just don't think the UFC really believes that

1784
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: that is a big fight for Connor.

1785
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 5: And do you think they would reject this style of

1786
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 5: public matchmaking or.

1787
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the funny part to me. It's like

1788
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: fighters like, hey, we've got an agreement. We just got

1789
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: to take it to the UFC. It's like you have

1790
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: literally nothing. You have nothing the UFC if they want to, like,

1791
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: if they think it's a good idea, they'll go along

1792
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: with it. But like their advocacy or enthusiasm for it

1793
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: means nothing to the UFC. It's utterly irrelevant as a concern.

1794
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 5: Okay, what's the line? And I don't mean the line

1795
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 5: to induce Betters? What line accurately portrays where both of

1796
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 5: these guys are at? Obviously there's so many question marks

1797
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 5: about Connor, but you know Hooker has the right style

1798
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 5: to be a Connor foil.

1799
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know Connor minus one twenty a little

1800
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 1: higher than that. I mean minus one fifty one seventy

1801
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: five something like that.

1802
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 5: Island Luke, you're a degenerate. What do you got on this?

1803
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 3: I just made up my own line. It was minus

1804
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: one seventy five McGregor plus one fifty hook.

1805
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: That sounds exactly right, That sounds exactly How do you

1806
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: read that fight Long Island, Luke.

1807
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 5: Uh.

1808
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 3: Probably Connor gets an early lead and if Hooker can

1809
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 3: weather the storm, he takes over in three, four or five.

1810
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 5: That's just gets like a gas stop.

1811
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 3: It's a good which I don't think he gets a

1812
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 3: he could get.

1813
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 5: Connor's gonna do this ver partying rockstar. Connor's gassing out quick.

1814
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna go. He's gonna go for it like

1815
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: the first DS fight. He's going to go for it early, yeah,

1816
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: for sure, and he might get it.

1817
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 5: He might get him. I mean he's is he still

1818
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 5: a sniper? That's what I'm saying. How much abuse can

1819
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 5: you do?

1820
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: And still who knows?

1821
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like he's been cleaned for a year.

1822
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 5: And Morgan, like with Tyson Fury, he had his moments

1823
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 5: and then he came back and miraculously I think he

1824
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 5: still got some moments going on there. But it's interesting,

1825
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 5: is it. It's definitely its own pay per view main

1826
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 5: event with not even a good Comaine, right, We're still

1827
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 5: doing that. That's that's the still probably.

1828
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: Yes again, that's the weird part too. Or if they

1829
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: really put Connor at like five in the afternoon on

1830
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia, give.

1831
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 5: Me a better answer, then give it or an alternate.

1832
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 5: If Chandler's busy, what's the better one? Because coming off

1833
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 5: a bad yeah, goeichi, So it could be it could

1834
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 5: be damage goods geis chi. But couldn't Goichi make Connor

1835
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 5: guess out just with huge violence?

1836
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean Connor's up against it. It's not going

1837
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:21,480
Speaker 1: to be Islam?

1838
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 5: Okay? Is there not going to be? Could be wider

1839
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 5: against an older name or somebody so small.

1840
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: It could have been woarrier for another fight. But I

1841
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: got fight news coming up, so it doesn't sound like

1842
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: it's him, so you can write him off.

1843
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 5: Yes, you think his fight news is.

1844
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: Probably probably so the hooker news is interesting. I mean,

1845
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: it's certainly not a terrible fight. I just I wonder

1846
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: if this is a There are some complicating factors that

1847
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: would make it unusual to go that direction. But to

1848
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: your point, if it is possible, Saudi Arabic can make it, okay.

1849
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 5: Would you be upset if it was our da in

1850
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five?

1851
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: A little first? So he's got a fight coming up anyway,

1852
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: who's he fighting? At three h eight.

1853
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: I'll check the top of my head.

1854
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I forget he's got a fight coming up.

1855
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: It's not an easy one. And yeah it's because like dude,

1856
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: that was like I mean, he was literally the champion.

1857
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,919
Speaker 1: It was peak RDA, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

1858
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: you're not getting a peak version of him. No, but

1859
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Neil, it's a fight and he's a one seventy.

1860
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 5: Cowboy, got the Connor comeback fight coming off multiple losses.

1861
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 5: Let's not forget the cowboy. Is he had a name?

1862
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 5: I guess, But I'm like, don't put it past them

1863
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 5: that they wouldn't give him complete damage goods at this

1864
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 5: point because they don't trust where he's at. So I'm saying,

1865
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 5: what if they give trum, do you think they would

1866
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 5: give him like a damaged opponent that he can beat,

1867
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 5: Like we're saying hooker, he could might be able to

1868
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 5: be if he still has it, But do you think

1869
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 5: they might go low down and dig and be like, Okay,

1870
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 5: we're gonna make sure he wins. Like here's tony question.

1871
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: Could if Nick dis beats Luke, could they do that?

1872
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: And I'm not even joking, dude, they would because if

1873
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: he goes up there and pounds out Luka.

1874
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 5: Or even just like survives a war and gets a No, let's.

1875
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: Let's eve give it the benefit of dout. Let's even

1876
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: say he looks like so prizingly good a lot of

1877
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: balls to do that, they could do it.

1878
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 5: Bro That would sell.

1879
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: Versus nickname versus.

1880
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 5: It would be a gross fight too, wouldn't it.

1881
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: Oh it would be the fucking mean, the sadest ship on.

1882
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 5: It would play down to the level of his competition,

1883
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 5: and he might be just as sad in there. Maybe

1884
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 5: that is the perfect fight for that is so gross

1885
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 5: that we're even entertaining that.

1886
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: Or they just signed Nate Diz back completely and then

1887
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: just make that fight.

1888
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like Nate's got more in the tank

1889
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 5: right now, right?

1890
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: Or how about what if Nate comes back and fights

1891
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: Dustin Poirier, which is another possibly were they made that

1892
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: fight before and then all.

1893
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 5: And even if Nate loses that, you still makes.

1894
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: Out there kind of tweeting and doing all this ship.

1895
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 5: Would you say that the performance Nate showed against malesved

1896
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 5: in the boxing ring gives you confidence that this version

1897
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 5: of Connor would have trouble against Nate Or do you

1898
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 5: think no matter what they're they're a close match.

1899
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what, they're a close match. Yeah.

1900
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 5: I tend to differ. I beg the different on that one.

1901
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 1: You beg the different.

1902
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,879
Speaker 5: I don't commit to it. I barely committed.

1903
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: It was like, get all right, let's go to topic

1904
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: number five, which is, to me, honestly, of everything we've discussed,

1905
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: really the most interesting. For the first time in nearly

1906
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: three years, nearly three years in m M A. Francis

1907
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: and Ganu is back, Ladies and gentlemen. He has returned.

1908
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: He'll be headlining a pay per view event from Riod

1909
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia when he takes on PFL heavyweight champion Hennan

1910
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: for Ahead of they're calling it Battle of the Giants

1911
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: Brace for Impact BC And as we mentioned, do we

1912
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: have the card? I don't know if I gave you

1913
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: the card as ay that we don't have it. We'll

1914
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: get to the linear one in just a second. The

1915
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: card itself is good, obviously. Chris Cyborg takes on the

1916
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: Resa Pacheco. By the way, for me, maybe the best

1917
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: fight all not the best fight all month, but one

1918
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: of one of the best non title fights all month.

1919
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: Paul Hughes taking on aj McKee. Fantastic Johnny Eblin is

1920
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: back for a title fight against Fabian Edwards, another fantastic

1921
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: contest rematch, though it is a rematch, still, it's Johnny

1922
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: Eblin's pretty good. It's worth now.

1923
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if that's the worst fight on your pay per

1924
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Speaker 5: view for a card that you're looking pretty good.

1925
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Speaker 1: That's not my question nor my interest at this moment. BC.

1926
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Speaker 1: Here's the one that I want to ask you. It's

1927
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Speaker 1: open ended, but I want you to think about this one.

1928
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Speaker 1: What is the biggest and perhaps the most important storyline

1929
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Speaker 1: headed into Saturday's contest? As I mentioned, the first fight

1930
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Speaker 1: for a non on MMA in almost three years.

1931
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Speaker 5: I think it all surrounds what does this version of

1932
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 5: Francis and Ghanu look like in MMA? Of course, with

1933
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Speaker 5: the layoff and the potential of whatever extreme damage he

1934
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 5: may have taken physically and or mentally from the Enganu

1935
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Speaker 5: boxing loss, and then you mix that with the tragedy

1936
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Speaker 5: of losing his son and this a suddenly spark of

1937
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Speaker 5: fire under him? Or are we seeing a potential you

1938
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 5: wounded big name out there that could be taken down?

1939
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 5: But I like to apply this in terms of what

1940
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 5: I'm kind of watching the most here, Luke, is not

1941
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 5: necessarily who wins this, but what does Francis's performance do

1942
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 5: for pfl's fortunes moving forward? When you frame it under

1943
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 5: the idea that they put so much into this year

1944
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 5: being their year, they were gonna launch pay per view,

1945
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 5: they were gonna have Jake Paul Maker's debut, Francis was

1946
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 5: gonna fight regularly, all this stuff, and then they end

1947
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Speaker 5: up waiting thirty something thirty two months for Francis, and

1948
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 5: all that time and the Joshua knockout has changed how

1949
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 5: we look at them. Like I said when this fight

1950
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 5: was signed, I think it improves how much I want

1951
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 5: to see this fight now because of those questions. But Luke,

1952
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 5: I want to see what does what the potential performance

1953
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Speaker 5: success of this pay per view, both from an entertainment

1954
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Speaker 5: standpoint and from a commercial standpoint, which we don't assume

1955
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 5: will be great, even though it's a really damn good

1956
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 5: pay per view card. I want to see what this

1957
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 5: says about the gamble they took on bringing in Francis

1958
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 5: for all that money and that control, which I didn't

1959
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 5: damn them for it. Francis got the bag all of that,

1960
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 5: but they couldn't have preferred that it went this way, Luke.

1961
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 5: And now, what does francis potential performance say about where

1962
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 5: they're at as a company. I think to me is

1963
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 5: that is tied into this and that's as important a

1964
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 5: storyline to me as what exactly does Francis look like?

1965
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 5: And who wins this fight?

1966
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Speaker 1: I think there's are relevant questions to me. The biggest

1967
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: one is the one you asked, which is what does

1968
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Speaker 1: Francis even look like? And you mentioned the death of

1969
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: his child obviously, the terrible knockout to Anthony Joshua, the

1970
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: inactivity so to speak, in MMA. All of these I

1971
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: think are bigger questions. My question would be a little

1972
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: bit different, which is what the fuck is the PFL doing.

1973
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 1: This card has been so poorly promoted it's actually quite shocking.

1974
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: For example, I mean, there's any number of ways to

1975
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 1: tell this. I mentioned that they had the press conference

1976
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Speaker 1: in my hometown of Washington, d C. With Henn and Fejeda.

1977
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 5: Let me, I guess they didn't reach out to any

1978
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 5: of the local media.

1979
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Speaker 1: Okay, how do you not do that? How do you

1980
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: go to town and you don't promote the card you have

1981
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,919
Speaker 1: there the next day? Nor the major kind of like arguably,

1982
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean arguably arguably, BC this is one of, if

1983
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: not if not the most important events in PFL history.

1984
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 5: Yes, right, you've got your biggest star ever you can

1985
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 5: argue the most important.

1986
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: Can you absolutely argue it's the most important. And you're

1987
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: doing no real media outreach. They did no real media

1988
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: tour for it. Jake Paul didn't stump for it. Don

1989
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: Davis is talking to essentially financially financial news outlets that

1990
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: are utterly disconnected from the MMA fan base.

1991
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 5: Really two big press conferences and had Jake Kost both

1992
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 5: right or one of one of the two.

1993
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not a media tour, and they didn't

1994
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: do one on ones afterwards. They didn't do any local

1995
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: outreach like that. These are really poorly promoted. You go

1996
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: to like the PFL YouTube page. They have actually a

1997
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: cool thing that they did where they had bredical moto

1998
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: out in Cameroon in the house that Francis and Ganda

1999
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: grew up in ye, but no one's paid attention to it.

2000
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: It was out two days ago, as of this morning,

2001
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: had like sixteen thousand views, and there's really no other

2002
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: promotional content. This is the point I'm trying to make

2003
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: me see. It is arguably, or to your point, very likely,

2004
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: the most important PFL event ever, ever, ever, ever, And

2005
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 1: the UFC is on autopilot all the time, where everything

2006
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: is just off the factory assembly line. Nobody is trying

2007
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: to do buttoned up white glove treatment, any promotional content.

2008
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 1: This was the opportunity to do it, and they didn't

2009
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: even do it. I know, like Francis did like a

2010
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 1: small little media tour last week speaking to a couple

2011
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: of folks out there. I know he spoke to I

2012
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: think Mike Bond of Emma Junkie and like some other places,

2013
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: but not much. You didn't really do hardly any there.

2014
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: And it's like, dude, if you can't promote this card,

2015
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: you can't promote any card.

2016
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 5: So is it because they're the idea is this is

2017
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 5: a Saudi paid for card which is footing the bill,

2018
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 5: so there's no need to or is it just that

2019
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 5: they don't know what they're doing because we make the

2020
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 5: same speech a lot about what they're doing wrong and

2021
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: what we thought they were going to be doing, what

2022
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 5: they maybe should be doing. I mean, can we just

2023
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 5: send this message one more time? Drop the season in

2024
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 5: playoff format? Nobody cares.

2025
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: I have two responses to that. When they say it's Saudi.

2026
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 5: Take their rosters, put them together like they're supposed to

2027
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 5: be with Belator. I don't even care about whatever TV

2028
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 5: money they can make on this. Put your best foot

2029
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 5: forward all the time. You've got all these great fighters

2030
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 5: that don't even knows you have, like Patchi, mex Usmannenmaga,

2031
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 5: mate Off that you're you know, wasting away and whatever

2032
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 5: is left of Belatour like make you matter at what

2033
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 5: you do right, not the potential of you know, in

2034
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 5: this case, finally getting to see Francis and everybody's going

2035
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 5: to pop up again and look in. I really hope

2036
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 5: they come back next year with a bang. So can

2037
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 5: this pay per view card if it's a success, if

2038
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 5: think it's a result that promoted that sparks excitement. Can

2039
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 5: this be the beginning of a big change or is

2040
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 5: it too far gone? Spend too much money and nobody cares.

2041
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I know people don't believe me when I say this.

2042
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: There's nothing they can do to really change their fortunes.

2043
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: They will eventually go out of business because the industry

2044
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: is controlled by one dominant player.

2045
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 5: People just even with the ESPN TV contract.

2046
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: People have a hard time accepting the truth of the matter.

2047
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Is it is it Listen to me, I'm like agent Smith,

2048
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: it is inevitable. Okay, However, this is the point when

2049
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: people bring, oh, it's a Saudi card, they don't need

2050
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 1: to promote it, right, Show me which non Saudi cards

2051
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: they've done a good job promoting. This is there's a

2052
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 1: through line on everything that they do which is minimal

2053
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: to no promotion, no matter what that Sadai might be

2054
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: footing the bill. To me seems like if I can't

2055
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 1: tell the difference when they are and when they aren't,

2056
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: like that's actually more part of the corporate corporate culture.

2057
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 5: Hey, we almost got Randy a few times. At least

2058
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 5: consider that.

2059
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: And more to the point, here's the thing I want

2060
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: to put up. Put up the graphic. This came from

2061
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Tim Wheaton, who covers kickboxing but MMA as well. You

2062
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: can't read this, but they show the lineal title. The

2063
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: lineal title is in boxing, as you will know, it's

2064
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: like who is the real man?

2065
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 5: Like the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy?

2066
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Essentially in MMA, there's places you can go. You can

2067
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: start Ken Shamrock first, they started with Hoys Gracie. It

2068
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 1: goes from Hoys Gracie to Boss rooting for a while.

2069
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Then it goes to and you could say Mark Coleman,

2070
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: depending on how you want to look at it. Then

2071
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: it goes to Big Nog, then it goes to fad Or.

2072
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Then it goes to Fabricio, then Alistair, then Kane Velasquiz,

2073
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: then back to Fabricio, then Steepe, then Cormier, then Stepe again,

2074
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: and then Francis and Gon who Francis and Gon who

2075
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: was the inherited man who beat the man? And they've

2076
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: not told this story. It's like you legitimately have the

2077
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: guy essentially at heavyweight, and unless you're a hardcore, this

2078
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: information has not been presented to you. This is what

2079
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: I mean when I say, like, why didn't you promote

2080
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: this card? This is the card that gives you the

2081
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: best chance at promoting. Are giving you promotionally useful material,

2082
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: and they've done nothing. They've done nothing.

2083
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm puzzled by it because this card is very good.

2084
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 5: It got a lot that you need to see about

2085
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 5: this main event, what it looks like, but there is

2086
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 5: no buzz at the moment on it. How does this

2087
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 5: fight card produce that positive buzz. I know you say

2088
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 5: it can't. What is the best case scenario in your

2089
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 5: eyes for PFL in how this main event plays out,

2090
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 5: provided that the rest of the card, you know, lived

2091
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 5: up to the expectation. It's a very good card on paper.

2092
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I think a good scenario for PFL is Francis winning,

2093
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 1: rushing knockouts, rushing knockout. I mean, it could be competitive

2094
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: if they need it to be. But in the end,

2095
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: like what highlight can they show that's the one? And

2096
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: then secondly, what I would say is they need to

2097
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: sell over one hundred thousand pay per view buys, which

2098
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't think is likely, but it could be.

2099
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 5: Because you're getting ESPN sports Center push on any other stuff.

2100
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 5: I don't watch it, so I don't know.

2101
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean the Sports Center really pushing their stuff. I

2102
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: see ads. I do see that they've purchased a lot.

2103
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what blows my mind about PFL.

2104
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Like they'll purchase ads for like the company CEO to

2105
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 1: have their tweet repopulated on your feed. They'll pay for

2106
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: influencers to like show up and give themselves like no

2107
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: rub whatsoever. And I guess they'll buy some you know,

2108
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: advertising along the way, but it seems like the stuff

2109
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: that they should be investing in they don't seem to

2110
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: think is relevant. And it's like, if building a fan

2111
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: base is not important to a promotion, and it's quite

2112
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: clear to PFL it's not, then what are you? You

2113
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: are a financial asset, you are a contract? Yeah, you are?

2114
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: You are you are just the sum of a TV

2115
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: content plan. You're not actually a real fight promotion in

2116
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: the end. That's the weird part about all of this.

2117
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 5: Hey, but you think dominant and Ganu knockout after a

2118
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 5: competitive start is the best case scenario. So because then

2119
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 5: we're going to start to go, is it possible that

2120
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 5: John Jones could fight him? Or that aspinallar So here's

2121
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 5: the thing.

2122
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: The downside is if Francis goes out there and just

2123
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 1: thunderously KOs Fajeda, it boosts his stock to get another

2124
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: boxing fight, and PFL may not want that, but I

2125
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: do think it's better for them to have Francis as

2126
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: a rejuvenated MMA star than not, because if Fahea wins,

2127
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, then you can say you're the

2128
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: guy that beat the guy number one. They're not even

2129
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: telling audiences that this is the guy the inherited lineal

2130
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: champion to who the fuck is hen and faheaa gonna fight.

2131
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: They'll have to do another rematch with in Ghana, which

2132
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I guess you can get two out of that, which

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Speaker 1: is better than nothing. But there's there's a bridge to

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Speaker 1: nowhere there because they've not been able to effectively get

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Speaker 1: anyone who's a ranked heavyweight sure from the UFC to

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Speaker 1: go over to PFL, which if they don't do that,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing to build off of. You can't go anywhere

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Speaker 1: after that.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather them combine their roster, have an knowledge at

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Speaker 5: all times as a fan, who are their champions? Say

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Speaker 5: to your off, Okay, I can't wait to see if

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Speaker 5: that guy comes up in the rankings. Enough of the format,

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Speaker 5: enough of all of that, the season in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: give us your run it like a run it like

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Speaker 5: a pro wrestling promotion where you're building the storyline so

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Speaker 5: we always know, Okay, this fight is probably going to

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Speaker 5: lead to this. In this I'd like to see some

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Speaker 5: of that old school storytelling in their promotional ability. Let's

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Speaker 5: see where this card takes some luke, but yeah, I

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Speaker 5: want to see where Francis is at I mean this,

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of people that think he's vulnerable

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Speaker 5: out there, that this could be a big time fa

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Speaker 5: hada moment. You will get two fights out of that.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if maybe you can argue that it's just

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Speaker 5: as good if this is a Hendo versus fador type

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01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 5: of fight and Fajto wins it and then we get

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Speaker 5: that rematch and we see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's something to be said for that.

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Speaker 1: But like you know, three losses in a row for Francis,

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Speaker 1: I don't And that's your biggest star. Is that what's

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Speaker 1: good for you? I mean again, because he has options,

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Speaker 1: the answer might be, but the problem that they ultimately

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Speaker 1: up against. So this is what I keep trying to

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Speaker 1: explain to people. Unless there is a world where the

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Speaker 1: PFL roster can cross pollinate with the UFC roster, it

2166
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Speaker 1: is over. It is over. And I know folks have

2167
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 1: a real hard time accepting that because it seems so dramatic.

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Speaker 1: Mark my fucking words there. Unless you can do that,

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Speaker 1: it is hopeless.

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Speaker 5: What should we be thinking about storylines quickly? On Cyborg

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Speaker 5: Pacheco that it could be a potential passing of the guard.

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Speaker 1: For that one seems I mean again, I want to

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Speaker 1: be clear, Hennifa Hara, hen if I had a winning

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. If he does, should not be a surprise

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Speaker 1: to anybody because he is dangerous no matter what. Plus

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Speaker 1: tons of questions about Francis, this is a great fight.

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Speaker 1: It's that more so for the Comaine, for the Comaine.

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Speaker 1: Pacheco looks like she's the real deal at this weight class.

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Speaker 1: Cyborg obviously, her record speaks for itself, but she is

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Speaker 1: long in the tooth. It's a tough one. It's a

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Speaker 1: really tough one. Also, Paul Hughes, one of the best

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Speaker 1: prospects in MMA taking on AJ McKee that is cannot

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Speaker 1: get out material. That is going to be a fucking

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Speaker 1: awesome fight. It's a great card. It's a great card.

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Speaker 1: It's a legitimately great card that has I cannot believe

2186
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Speaker 1: how poorly it's been promoted.

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Speaker 5: When you did the great card bit right there, you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Saturday night, this is this Francis card.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the main cards at four pm? Four pm?

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Speaker 1: much is that pay per view? I think it's like

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Speaker 1: forty nine ninety five something like that. Let me let

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch that pay per view.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go first one up here. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even gonna read him. Uh it's not cage fighting, says

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Speaker 1: is this the golden age of the UFC Flyway division?

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Speaker 1: Golden age seems like a little strong. I mean, golden

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01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: age is like when you have like the very best guy,

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Speaker 1: which would be Demetris.

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Speaker 5: But here's what no, I disagree. Golden age to me

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01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 5: is when you have multiple guys at the top, preferably

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01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 5: want them to be big stars. What's a golden age

2272
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Speaker 5: of heavyweight boxing the nineteen seventies with all those big stars.

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01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 5: No disrespect to DJ, but he dominated his era. Henry

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01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 5: Stahudo had a short run on the top of fight

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01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 5: to keep the division alive. But I consider this era

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01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 5: to be the four fights between Figuredo and uh Moreno

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01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 5: leading into Pantosia's dramatic and you know, emotional takeover of

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01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 5: the division. And what are we getting in every sort

2279
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 5: of like title fight er number one contender fight. We're

2280
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 5: getting badass fights like we saw with Roy Voltayra. So

2281
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,799
Speaker 5: I think one hundred percent this is the golden age

2282
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 5: of great flyweight fights between hungry and crazy, wild competitors

2283
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 5: and anybody can be anybody anytime. I'll take that as

2284
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 5: my favorite era in the era I want to live in.

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01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 5: And that's not a disrespected mighty mouse who is one

2286
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 5: of the greatest of all time and gets one of

2287
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Speaker 5: those five chairs up in the up in the ceiling there.

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01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that like in the upper room. I'm

2289
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: not saying the Golden Era is the DJ era. I

2290
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: have to think about a little bit more, but I

2291
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: would say if you're getting title shots based off of

2292
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: like minimal wins, it's very hard for me to accept

2293
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: that this is the Golden era.

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01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 5: The proof is in the put in though, as Floyd

2295
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 5: would say, aren't these fights just awesome every time out? Almost?

2296
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: When were they bad?

2297
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 3: When they almost shut down the Yeah, they they weren't bad.

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01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: That's not true.

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Speaker 5: That's a total enough.

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Speaker 3: No one liked watching flyways.

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01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 5: They weren't.

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Speaker 1: They weren't hardcorees back then. We're all jacking off about

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Speaker 1: how great flyweight fights were.

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01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 5: First year of it, Yeah, but then we got people

2305
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 5: got bored of DJ's dominance, not his fault.

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Speaker 1: That's different than saying the division was bad.

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01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 5: No, the division is more exciting now compared to them.

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01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: I think there's more parody and so you think it's

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Speaker 1: more exciting. I don't know if it's actually everyone.

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01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 5: In the parody bubble are all action fighters and they're

2311
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 5: bringing it. So yeah, I would say, I think you

2312
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,759
Speaker 5: missed this golden era. Don't you miss this past.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this crop of flyweights is like remarkably

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01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: better than the Joe B versus DJ era where John

2315
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Dotson was Like John Dotson versus DJ one is a

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01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: did you see John Dotson versus DJ one?

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01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 3: Yes?

2318
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Okay, he gets dropped in that saying.

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01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 5: No one, no one cares when.

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Speaker 3: John Dotson left the UFC. I'm just saying that much.

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Speaker 3: He kind of researched his career and.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna care, and when Kayasakura leaves or people

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Speaker 1: are gonna care when mat.

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Speaker 5: Just be happy and enjoy what we have right now.

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Speaker 1: I do think I think the flyweight has Here's what

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Speaker 1: I would say about flyweight. It has resurged back to

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Speaker 1: a very healthy, interesting level Golden Age, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm less convinced by that. All right, let's go Golden

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Speaker 1: I see your skits and bits, face skin any from

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Speaker 1: body Bulger. Grand Dawson is now ten and one in

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Speaker 1: the UFC, with one no contest. What do you think

2332
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: his ceiling in this division is? Yeah? But he just

2333
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: got knocked up before Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Three fights to go by Bobby Green.

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Speaker 1: Was it that long ago?

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Speaker 5: He's straight win?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but that was a bad loss. It was the

2338
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: problem was that was supposed to be his step up moment,

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01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: and so he listen. I actually really like watching grand

2340
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: Dawson fight. I think he's very good. Him and Pat Sabatini.

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01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I think he had the same problem. He finally stepped

2342
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: up and then got wrecked as well. So I'm gonna

2343
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: say this, on paper, I think very highly of what

2344
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 1: grand Dawson has been able to do. But when it's

2345
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: gut check time, he's got to really really answer that,

2346
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: and that's been something that's kind of held him back.

2347
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 5: So what's his ceiling? You think he gets to the

2348
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 5: title shot level? I think he falls short. I think

2349
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 5: he's a tough I'm not.

2350
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: Sure about that without making dramatic improvements. I'm not sure.

2351
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 5: Okay, but he's good.

2352
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: The guy can fight.

2353
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 5: Great SoundBite on Saturday. I wish I could play it.

2354
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Would you? Would you ever mention that about your wife

2355
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: on National TV? Dropping a quarterer and no, no, that's inappropriate.

2356
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I would make it

2357
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: home keep the marriage. I think my wife might isis

2358
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: my head?

2359
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 5: What are we doing here? Please grant?

2360
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay from Real Kempy, how many pay per views does

2361
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Connor's BKFC debut do well to him fighting?

2362
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 5: They're saying, yeah, yeah.

2363
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: So two things I would say, depends on the price point.

2364
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Depends on the price point, and it depends how washed

2365
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: he is by the time he gets there.

2366
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Let's say he is competitive in two UFC fights

2367
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 5: over the next year, but he commits to not resigning

2368
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 5: with them, but he loses both fights, so that's a

2369
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 5: certain amount of losses in a stretch, but he's still

2370
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor, and then it's like he's coming home guys

2371
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 5: him against Mike Perry or whoever is the most Mike

2372
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 5: Perry of Mike Perry at that time. That would be

2373
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 5: the most kind of viral all action.

2374
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'll say this, It would never happen.

2375
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: But let me just posit this. Hear me out exact

2376
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,919
Speaker 1: scenario you're talking about. He does the two looks competitive

2377
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: but loses but whatever, and then goes right into it.

2378
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 1: And let's say he promotes the fuck out of it. Yeah,

2379
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor versus Jake Paul bare knuckle that easily clears

2380
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: a million.

2381
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 5: Easily clears that's more than that, I think.

2382
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm saying easily. Listen to the words.

2383
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,879
Speaker 5: I'm saying that you're gonna go him, Nate him, Nate.

2384
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: Him versus Nate I think also clears a million. The

2385
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: person asks two million, I think you have you get

2386
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 1: to Jake Paul to get to two million.

2387
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, well you could do it.

2388
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: And if and if your pay per view is like

2389
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 1: fifty bucks versus like eighty or ninety.

2390
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 5: You don't think they'll do something weird like Connor versus

2391
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 5: sixty year old Mike Tyson in a bare knuckles circle.

2392
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 5: I hope we don't get to that point. Please, dude,

2393
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 5: what do you think about people that say that TKO

2394
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 5: is eventually going to buy BKFC because Connor is elevating

2395
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 5: the brand so much now in his way, it.

2396
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: Seems possible they want their hand in boxing. So yes,

2397
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: we know, now.

2398
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 5: I don't know TKO and theory take whatever, like you know,

2399
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,919
Speaker 5: big name boxers and MMA guys that'll be in wrestlers

2400
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 5: that'll be under their TKO silo, and then move them

2401
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 5: around and go, Okay, who wants Polariz I think they would.

2402
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: They've already put Page Vans on who's out and then

2403
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: is back in, but like they put her in power Slap, which.

2404
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,799
Speaker 5: Is she's gonna do another one for them, which.

2405
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Is which is not great. But what I was going

2406
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: to say was, dude, who is one guy people are?

2407
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: This is one of the most slept on BKFC storylines.

2408
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 1: He's a champion now who is doing really well on BKFC.

2409
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Austin Trout.

2410
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah he had to win again, Austin Trout.

2411
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Austin Trout a very legitimate boxer and he's kicking ass

2412
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: over there. No one's really paying attention to it, but

2413
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: it's like a big thing. So like, I could absolutely

2414
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: foresee a situation where if that was ever in their interest,

2415
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: they could move people around for sure, all Right, What

2416
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: do we got next? Elvis? Who was a racial slur

2417
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: next to his name That could just be his last name. No,

2418
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: it's a racial slur. Who should at Oscar? Willis fight next?

2419
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 5: Some people want the sun I mean with the bane

2420
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 5: in an mm A cage.

2421
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: I'm going to say he needs to beat his battle

2422
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 1: with sobriety first.

2423
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 5: How dare you that is? That is okay? What about

2424
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 5: the schmo the Schmoe? Do you think the Schmoe would

2425
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 5: do m m A.

2426
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Because I don't think he's going to do bare knuckle. Dude,

2427
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 1: you gotta be real, you.

2428
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 5: Gotta be real wild. Is there somebody we're not thinking

2429
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 5: of that would could be competitive with that?

2430
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 3: Who's Casey Leyden?

2431
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 4: Oh?

2432
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 5: Yes? Sorry?

2433
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I was there too? Different in weight.

2434
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 5: I will tell you this. I was on the bt

2435
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 5: L on an m A fighting with Mike Kek and

2436
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,799
Speaker 5: it was leading into the Oscar fight and and Casey

2437
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 5: said I asked him, I said, Casey, would you want

2438
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,799
Speaker 5: to fight the winner? Because Casey also had an amateur

2439
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 5: mm A fight around the time of Oscar And he

2440
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 5: said one hundred. Really, he wants the winner and he's

2441
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 5: willing to do bare knuckle. Would you would how would

2442
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 5: you like Casey's chances in there against Oscar?

2443
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 1: He's way too big. I think he hurts Oscar. Interesting, Yeah,

2444
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Oscar had a great win, he had a great game plan.

2445
01:43:58,080 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 1: But Casey is much bigger than him.

2446
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 5: Don't you imagine Oscar like fighting like a milk boy

2447
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 5: like Steve will do it or one of those I

2448
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 5: don't know.

2449
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 1: I give you guys to really do a fucking bare knuckle.

2450
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 5: I don't know. Those guys do crazy Look, Jake Paul,

2451
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 5: he's fighting Mike. I mean those guys do crazy stuff

2452
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 5: for clicks, right, look.

2453
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like fighting Mike Tyson on eight two minute

2454
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,839
Speaker 1: rounds for a gazillion dollars is real different than fighting

2455
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: Oscar willis for like a stick of gum and a

2456
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: paper clip in your pocket, you know what I mean.

2457
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: Like it's a very different proposition, all right. Next from

2458
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:30,759
Speaker 1: Bryce Wachner, who, out of Umar, Tiporia and Shawcott loses

2459
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: their O first? What a great question.

2460
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a great question, probably against Max.

2461
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, I mean his fight is well, hold on,

2462
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: his fight is the most recent, like a right, it

2463
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: is the closest one to us.

2464
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 5: Now, Yes, it's not like they all fight on the

2465
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 5: same day. People do want to know when in regards

2466
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 5: to the size of your bulge, whether it points more

2467
01:44:56,479 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 5: true north for Shavkott or Ilia. I already know the

2468
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 5: answer because I'm around you. Yeah, so what did you

2469
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 5: do with the toys?

2470
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 1: And how everyone else?

2471
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 5: I like how I was talking? What do you do

2472
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 5: with those two toys? Max and Isy that you're no

2473
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 5: longer done with? You like that?

2474
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: Have I done with either of them?

2475
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 5: You don't have the you don't have then just passion

2476
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 5: for them like this is.

2477
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 1: Very very Other people get to like like fighters and

2478
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 1: it's no, it's no thing. If I like a fighter

2479
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's weird. I don't quite understand

2480
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the difference.

2481
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 5: Look, does he like them or does he love them?

2482
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 3: He's got an affinity for Relia.

2483
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 1: What about YouTube fan boying out for various straweight vulk.

2484
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, looks Australia. First you blow both

2485
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 5: of them, let's just be that's the end of the show.

2486
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: And secondly, and then secondly, what I want to say

2487
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: is I don't even like bring up or even deny

2488
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: like all the bad parts about them. Yes, I know

2489
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 1: this is a weird concept. Hear me out. Hear me

2490
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 1: out you, I like fighters who are hear me out

2491
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: now for this.

2492
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 5: Like where I'm Abercrombie, No, no, no.

2493
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: Good at fighting. So a lot of people like fighters

2494
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: and then like everything about them, what they wear, what

2495
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: they say, how they show up their social media stuff.

2496
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of that. I care about

2497
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: good fighters in good fights, doing awesome.

2498
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 5: To you, you're saying the Madrid fandom for Ilia is coincidental.

2499
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 1: Well he's Spanish, I mean Georgian, but Spanish. Don't I

2500
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: understand the question?

2501
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 5: You said, I like fighters because they're good at fighting. Yes,

2502
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 5: some people think you're cause playing through Elia's success, because

2503
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 5: that's the man you want to be living in Spain,

2504
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 5: loving bbls, taking ass nice tats.

2505
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't ever think of it

2506
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: that way. But his life doesn't suck. I'll mean, I'll

2507
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: put it that.

2508
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 5: When you say I only like fighters that are good

2509
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 5: at fighting, no one believes you, because they know what.

2510
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 1: I liked Taporia before Madrid ever got on board, and

2511
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 1: I had no. I had no I didn't even know

2512
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: they ever would. I didn't even know that. I mean,

2513
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 1: he blew up a little bit faster than I thought

2514
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: he would actually, So that was a That was a

2515
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: bonus for a guy like is that it? Do we

2516
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: have any more? That's it? All right? It's not for BC.

2517
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. So here's what I did yesterday, as scoured the

2518
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 5: globe for the good, the bad, the ugly, the iss

2519
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 5: and lows, the in between and combat sports and beyond. Unfortunately,

2520
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 5: Luke crowdsurfer boner clip uh is no longer a working link,

2521
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 5: so that got dropped. But uh, here's the bestsh I

2522
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 5: can find. It's have you seen this shit? Luke? What

2523
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 5: a weekend for Connor McGregor, and not his promoter debut,

2524
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 5: but considering this was bkfc's first card with their new

2525
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 5: deal in his own and it was in a bullfighting

2526
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 5: ring in Spain, it felt like this was Connor coming

2527
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 5: to the forefront and taking his job full force. It

2528
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 5: started when he was at this media event to promote

2529
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 5: this BCFC fight and the opportunity to shit on your boy, Ilio.

2530
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 5: He couldn't pass it up.

2531
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 4: So I want two big bits betting on Spanish athletes,

2532
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 4: So there you go, let's go Spain.

2533
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 5: I would say I would bet on idiot, but he

2534
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 5: is much Spanish. He is charging. Let's be here, I

2535
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 5: am a Spanish. If the most Spanish than idiot, there

2536
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 5: is a charging man on the cover.

2537
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 2: He is operating on the cover, So we support the

2538
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 2: ruined Spanish athletes racist.

2539
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 5: Look, I don't know, but it's.

2540
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: Either definitely stupid for sure? That okay?

2541
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:27,799
Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty food.

2542
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: Do the Spanish seem to think is more Spanish?

2543
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 5: That upset you?

2544
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: No? You guys pointing out social media riff raff as

2545
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 1: like some good did you did you? For example? Did

2546
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: you include the dunk he had on uh the ball

2547
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: in your ship?

2548
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 5: Here?

2549
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: No? I didn't, right, So this is what I mean?

2550
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 5: Do you think this is one sided?

2551
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Do I think that it is visibly Sokay? You do

2552
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: this on purpose to like ti, So I need to

2553
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: play more like you? Like tilting me is like above

2554
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: what you would ever do?

2555
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 5: Well, it's time.

2556
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I would know.

2557
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 5: It's really the full time focus of the show. So

2558
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 5: like he means guiltiest show? How do you think? Because

2559
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 5: you know you are very respectful of your own transition

2560
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 5: to Spanish, and you don't you know you sometimes talk

2561
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 5: down your ability to speak Span.

2562
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: It's not very good.

2563
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 5: Let's hear what Connor is when he took to the

2564
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 5: mic at this BKFC show. Oh, here is first a sorry,

2565
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 5: Here is first a montage of him acting unhinged at

2566
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 5: the way. This was awesome. Come on, this was very okay,

2567
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 5: this was great a right his his Yeah. There we

2568
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 5: go and then we go to the actual show. Here

2569
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 5: is Connor speaking Spanish, addressing the crowd.

2570
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 4: That's good, Ohl, dear masie cabelados. Oh lahe're not the

2571
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 4: ghost lest being else.

2572
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 5: Spine Ya, this is the XFL.

2573
01:49:55,479 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship. I'm

2574
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 4: beautiful pet of Spain and only on DAZ Zone. What

2575
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 4: you went about to witness tonight, ladies and gentlemen will

2576
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 4: be like nothing you have ever.

2577
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: Seen by it. Could his collar be bigger?

2578
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 5: So there are a lot of people saying, rightfully, so

2579
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 5: he's really good at that.

2580
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah he is good at that. Seriously, Yeah he is

2581
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: good at that.

2582
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 5: You don't think UFC is scared by that at all.

2583
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 5: I don't think they are. They're scared.

2584
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: They're not even in the bare knuckle business.

2585
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 5: But he's good at that. I want to see more

2586
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 5: of him like this.

2587
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: I actually do feel like promotionally he will have a

2588
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 1: lot of success. Well, he did strangered by the way,

2589
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: it's terrible.

2590
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 5: He did jump Dave Feldman on this post fight excitement.

2591
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 5: Call out here, let's listen to this.

2592
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a bonus for for this fight. A bonus.

2593
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, listen. All we're gonna do

2594
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 4: for these two gentlemen as well as a bonus is

2595
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 4: horse I get. Tell me, well, don't tell him he's

2596
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 4: not getting pet bonus.

2597
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:59,759
Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah. I love every time he does stuff

2598
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:01,839
Speaker 5: like that, like when he's like Mike Perry, you're fired,

2599
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 5: and Feldman's.

2600
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Like he is the guy who gets hammered at the

2601
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: party and then close talks everybody.

2602
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 5: She is. He's also has that vibe of like the

2603
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 5: rich boss's son who can call the shots, but no

2604
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 5: one like Trues I.

2605
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 1: Could smell the beer his breath.

2606
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 5: From year there was a video which we don't have

2607
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 5: of him in the Schmo dancing in the in the bowler. Yeah,

2608
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 5: but here's the post fight party which Connor starts getting

2609
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 5: up on Britain Hart the BKFC chance and then d

2610
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 5: Devil's like Nana, no no, and he's just like no, honey,

2611
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 5: I was just I was just yanking on the chain.

2612
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 1: There.

2613
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 5: There you go. I really respected d for standing her

2614
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:45,600
Speaker 5: ground there, all right, glad, do you not want to

2615
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 5: talk about their relationships?

2616
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: Cannot tell you how little I find the private lives

2617
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 1: of fighters.

2618
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 5: And not even Bevill's a strange wife, She's a fire cross.

2619
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 5: Not speaking of Oscar Willis, he obviously also had a

2620
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 5: huge weekend here Connor hyping up Oscar at the way

2621
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 5: in so it told me.

2622
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: Pretty Ben Davis one of the potential miffit It fights

2623
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: It talk to me about a.

2624
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 5: Fight with the macline again. Oscar Willis is a fucking Paul.

2625
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 4: Oscar Willis has falls like a Bengali tiger. Fucking big

2626
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 4: juicy falls to the MacLaine and he's fighting fan Davis

2627
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 4: flan fucking played the fan. He's outsidest and Oscar He's

2628
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 4: in hometown of Tony, so he's up against it.

2629
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 5: When Oscar's come up with a go baby, let's go

2630
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 5: walk the.

2631
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: Micli once again. If the cops come, we can just

2632
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: hide under Connor's collar.

2633
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,759
Speaker 5: Uh Luke. Despite the fact that bet that Oscar Willis

2634
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 5: had a huge win, I do want you to rate

2635
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 5: that tad. Here's him posting posing with his coach Dan Hooker.

2636
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 5: He added the Muhammad al Li tat on his mid

2637
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 5: drift there.

2638
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: What'd you think is there any way to zoom in?

2639
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

2640
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 1: It looks it looks pretty bad.

2641
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, he's got the Union Jack flag above

2642
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 5: his right peck. I don't know what he has above

2643
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 5: his left head. Maybe like some song lyric.

2644
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know. It all looks pretty bad.

2645
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 5: All right, there you go. Well, here's a footage of

2646
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 5: his performance four knockdowns in round one against Ben the

2647
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 5: Bain Davis. He rushed him from the start and it

2648
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 5: was that straight right which just couldn't miss.

2649
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes over the top, then underneath and again

2650
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 1: he had the right idea. Dude, once once he keeps

2651
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: a hand on there and just doesn't stop firing.

2652
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 5: He ate big shots too.

2653
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 1: He did have some big shots there. I mean Ben

2654
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: was trying. Ben's look a Ben, He's throwing. It's just

2655
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: as not having much of an effect.

2656
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 5: He was like a cyborg the way he walked through him. Right.

2657
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at this.

2658
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 5: So do you think the Hooker and or McGregor coaching

2659
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 5: like really helped.

2660
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 1: I definitely think they would do that, like coming out

2661
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: there and storming a guy. I'm telling you, if you're

2662
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: making a pro debut or you're an amateur fighter, they

2663
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: all look this way, like that is the best game plan.

2664
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: Get out there and overwhelm your opponent and they crumble.

2665
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 5: Every single This continues to be a thing. I mean,

2666
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 5: it's it's almost like the Jig Paul thing. It's almost

2667
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 5: like the crossover boxing bubble. But if not just Oscar,

2668
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 5: but crazy enough, I'm a journalists, maybe some of them

2669
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 5: are craving more crossover attention and opportunities. If promoters would

2670
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 5: entertain more bs circus stunts like this on this level,

2671
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 5: I can get into it.

2672
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,799
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, the fighters are becoming the media,

2673
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: and the media are becoming the fighters. It's a crazy time.

2674
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 5: Oh my god. And then of course postfight drinks for

2675
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 5: these two on the floor there in the Marbella.

2676
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Shouts to both of those guys. We know them both,

2677
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 1: We like them both a lot. You know, we kill

2678
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 1: them both on the show. But they're both great, and

2679
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: when I see them, I enjoy hanging out with Wavos too.

2680
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: For sure, Absolutely no question.

2681
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 5: Tayo Femo Lopez Junior, who by the way, is trying.

2682
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 1: To We'll say this, I will say this. Everyone's like, oh,

2683
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: they got big balls, and everyone's like, you gotta respect

2684
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: everyone that gets into the cage. And I'm like, if

2685
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: these two bozos can get it, how special is it? Really?

2686
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: Can we be honest about that?

2687
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 5: Have you seen the tattoos on most BKFC fighters? Do

2688
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 5: I really have to respect everybody that gets in there?

2689
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't think I do.

2690
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 5: Tao Femo was at a boxing event in San Antonio Luke.

2691
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 5: He's suing Topperan, claiming that there's a loophole in his contract.

2692
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 5: He's also done that he should be a free agent.

2693
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 5: Here is what the ladies thought of him. What does

2694
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 5: that say?

2695
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: In Spanish? And vida but fias is the aunts?

2696
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, the teas are all over all over

2697
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 5: to ts for tale. There you go, right there, Well done,

2698
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 5: Let's go to better BF bev All time from Saudie.

2699
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 5: We all remember Beevall's a stranged wife at Katerina a

2700
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 5: ka Katie Luke. We saw the tweets leading up to it.

2701
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 5: Here is her commenting on the way in Instagram post

2702
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 5: where She claims, my children and I are for Arthur,

2703
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 5: meaning Arthur better b.

2704
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: By the way, everyone misspelling his name.

2705
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,959
Speaker 5: Author Remember when Berlanga was the author Berlango.

2706
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 1: By the way, how is Edgar Berlinga the most annoying

2707
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 1: personal social.

2708
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 5: We'll get to that if you don't know the story.

2709
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 5: Bevall and his wife are divorced. She's claiming that he's

2710
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 5: not paying child support.

2711
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: She say what it is.

2712
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 5: She claims he's a deadbeat dad, and she claims that

2713
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 5: he beat her. She posts pictures. She puts a picture

2714
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 5: of him crushing her fond. I don't know, something like that.

2715
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 5: She did a how's this for the most spiteful moment?

2716
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 5: Hell hath no fury? Like Katie Beevall did a live

2717
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 5: stream in which she openly cheered for better Bea the

2718
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 5: whole time. And here's the finish, Luke.

2719
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 3: Just ardur Arthur.

2720
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 1: And I stick like people exclaimed. Damn, bro, damn you

2721
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: want to talk about praying on someone's downfall?

2722
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 5: Jesus, she's getting her come up into here, and she says.

2723
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 1: Her is getting he has come up in.

2724
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 5: No, she feels like she's getting and enjoying. Oh, you're right,

2725
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 5: he'll have to get well. She basically said the fight

2726
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 5: will be in court, so that's where she and I

2727
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 5: don't know who's right or who's wrong, obviously, but that

2728
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 5: is a wild side.

2729
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: I will tell you. Her reactions look very real, like

2730
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 1: they don't look very manufactured at all. She looked quite

2731
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: quite thrilled.

2732
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 5: Wow. Did you see Ben Whitaker on the undercard there

2733
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 5: on the DESNE pay per view under card which they

2734
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 5: originally said was free and then they did a switcheroo

2735
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 5: and charged for What a great look, here's him going

2736
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 5: over the ropes. This looks like bo versus Elijah Tillery

2737
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 5: Part one. Whittaker would claim he was injured in a

2738
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 5: fight in which he wasn't looking great and then they

2739
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 5: called it. They went to the cards. It was a

2740
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 5: technical draw.

2741
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 1: Bro, he was getting beat up a little bit. He

2742
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 1: was getting beat up in this fight, and he was

2743
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: a minus like two thousand favorite.

2744
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 5: So that was a wild show. And then we'll go

2745
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 5: to the co feature. Fabio Wardley and Fraser Clark fought

2746
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 5: to a draw earlier this year and a great heavyweight,

2747
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 5: all action fight. Yet it was Wardly on the left

2748
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 5: against a much more skilled amateur background in Clark, but

2749
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 5: he brought the wood shed out here. Luke, these two rights.

2750
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 5: It looked like he broke his face too.

2751
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: He dented the side of his head because he broke

2752
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: essentially where the jaw connects to the skull.

2753
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're shaking my micro Oh sorry, bro?

2754
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2755
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 5: Is that your knee or your genitals?

2756
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 1: Both?

2757
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 5: All right? Well, Luke Usik Fury too is coming up

2758
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 5: in December. That's the next big one to look out

2759
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 5: for in US. A kind of message on social media

2760
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 5: for his good friend Greedy Belly.

2761
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 3: Hey, my friend, Greedy Belly, continue training.

2762
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 5: I'm Rey's brother.

2763
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: I know your hard work. It's good. I appreciate it.

2764
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Greedy Belly.

2765
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: You my friend. You are my friend. That's what you

2766
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: say to someone in prison before you have your way

2767
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: with them.

2768
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 5: You are my You notice that in public, like Fury

2769
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 5: goes up and hugs him and acts like they're boys.

2770
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Now, I think there's a little bit of camaraderie that's really.

2771
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 5: I think it's one sided. I think it's Fury. I

2772
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 5: think I think Usak still looking at this is competition.

2773
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but still I think Usik thinks he's secretly funny.

2774
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 5: Does it get you fired up when you see these

2775
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 5: Fury interviews of late where he says like I'm going

2776
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 5: for the knockout.

2777
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: Yes I do, I out boxing him. I don't know

2778
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: how good that's gonna go. Yeah, try and just physically

2779
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: put it on him.

2780
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 5: Look, when you walked through the turnstile and graduated high

2781
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 5: school and through your cap, if I would have said

2782
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 5: what are your plans next? What would you say?

2783
01:58:58,880 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: College?

2784
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 5: All right, let's horse kids say.

2785
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 1: If you graduated high school, what are you planning.

2786
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 3: On doing next?

2787
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 1: Ship?

2788
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 5: Going home and jacking off? That's me every day after

2789
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 5: MK though, somebody had to say, Luke. No one ever

2790
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 5: talks about how dangerous the game Jenga can be. Wow,

2791
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 5: you've seen that ship. That guy has good war and

2792
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 5: all right, let's go to this game show for kids.

2793
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: It should be wholesome, right spauling, look at the monitor

2794
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:31,839
Speaker 1: and give the full.

2795
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 5: Name of this person.

2796
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 4: I know Hitler.

2797
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 2: Let's actor Jason Statum television as well.

2798
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 5: Wow, how did he catch astray? That's a big time

2799
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 5: stray right there. Okay, let's keep the fun going here. Hey, look,

2800
01:59:54,800 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go to the bathroom and then we'll Wow,

2801
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 5: we're almost the sign.

2802
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 4: Bro.

2803
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: The Crying Game was a nineties classic. I don't know

2804
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 1: that's saying. I'm trying to watch it again, but.

2805
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 5: Same size there, Luke. Hey, Black Friday is coming up,

2806
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 5: your favorite holiday. Let's get a recap of book that happen.

2807
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 1: Look at the look at the spirit. Look at this

2808
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 1: Christmas spirit?

2809
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 5: Bro, Oh wow, look at that.

2810
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: Listen and someone chucked the fucking look at look at that.

2811
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 1: Look at that Christmas spirit. Jack Frost nipping at you

2812
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 1: your toes or whatever the fuck the line is.

2813
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 5: Uh, look the the Dodgers son the Mets last night,

2814
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 5: nine nothing in Game one of the NLCS.

2815
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 1: Matt is very upset about this, but these.

2816
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 5: Zesty Dodgers have been known this postseason for doing stuff

2817
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 5: like this tip on tip your.

2818
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta say, I think this is

2819
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: my new favorite team. I don't even like the Dodgers,

2820
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 1: but the fact that they're insanely homo erotic.

2821
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:52,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what it says.

2822
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 1: It's the Craig Jones of baseball.

2823
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 5: Is it's not true? Would you say gender reveals are

2824
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 5: among your favorite things?

2825
02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 1: Ever, everyone who does a gender reveal deserves to die in.

2826
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,000
Speaker 5: A house they call this the most over the top

2827
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 5: gender reveal in history, the most spectacular. Oh so she

2828
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 5: wins a pink jeep, Luke and she's.

2829
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 1: Having a girl drive by shooter.

2830
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 5: Oh boy, let's go to like Colombian gender reveals.

2831
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 1: Why are they Colombia? They could be here right, like

2832
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 1: is there Hispanic?

2833
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 5: I mean they could be Colombians. They look like very

2834
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 5: nice people, right. Oh they're having a girl Luke. Get

2835
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 5: on the bankta cotton, not Joe.

2836
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: I just hey, one more time, where is the drive

2837
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 1: by shooter when you need one?

2838
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 5: We haven't had a good road rage incident in a while.

2839
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 5: Let's go down under here to Australia coming out and

2840
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 5: see you.

2841
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: We don't need to put up. You could tell these

2842
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 1: are aust rednecks. Half of them have no shoe.

2843
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well that's a knife. I got a knife, dude.

2844
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 1: I feel like aussy white trash is different.

2845
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 5: Think no, see this take on that he is the

2846
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 5: offspring of that.

2847
02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, no Cea, when you recorded this video, where

2848
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 1: were you?

2849
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 5: Okay? Watch the truck here, bro, Look, look.

2850
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: There's going to the ship. Just some good old.

2851
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 5: No harm and it gets messy from there along. Look

2852
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 5: and you defend your people.

2853
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 1: Please, why did you record that?

2854
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 3: I just thought it looked entertaining and I knew it

2855
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:37,920
Speaker 3: would go viral.

2856
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,120
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something like, dude, it feels like

2857
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 1: aussy white trash. I don't know how to explain it.

2858
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 5: Man.

2859
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 1: It's as close to Florida as you can get, but

2860
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: yet far away from Florida.

2861
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 5: I'm telling Jack Della.

2862
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 3: He said that I do feel like Ossie white trash

2863
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 3: is white trash, like that's whatever, like like straight up swamp.

2864
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 3: That's that's what I've originated.

2865
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 5: Look, you ever have that friend you can't invite over

2866
02:02:58,440 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 5: because he breaks things?

2867
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, all you fucking moron.

2868
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 5: Those fish are done, Luke, they are done. But that's

2869
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 5: not our drunk of the week. This is our drunk

2870
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:15,120
Speaker 5: of the week.

2871
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: I was about to go ahead first into that bitch,

2872
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: so your.

2873
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 5: Ah, yeah, yeah wasted. Indeed, we have to skip the

2874
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 5: crowd surfing boner that came out. Why because the video

2875
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 5: didn't work anymore. I couldn't find the North Korean. They're

2876
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 5: just passing this guy along at this like you just

2877
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 5: got of Connor McGregor at the Floyd Wayans two more

2878
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 5: for you here let's check out this lady in the bathroom.

2879
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean send her to the fucking he what bitch,

2880
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:52,879
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of my life. You absolutely disgusting.

2881
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 5: Look it's cake's.

2882
02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: Fucking gross.

2883
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 5: And you always say there's BC there's not enough elder abuse.

2884
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,560
Speaker 5: So we with our elder abuse clip of the week.

2885
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: This is a ship.

2886
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 5: You gotta be fucking kidding me.

2887
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 2: Oh yes, sho take that, Grandy. Wow, what a twist.

2888
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 2: What a twist?

2889
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 5: What a twist, right, dude? That one I got me going.

2890
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 1: I was like, is this the punchline? And then she

2891
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 1: got fucking ran over?

2892
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:44,120
Speaker 5: That's the ship of the week, I hope ship ball. Wow. Okay, Hey,

2893
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 5: big week here, Luke. Uh, We're gonna be back on Friday, Yes, Friday,

2894
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 5: in which we are going to have our picks for

2895
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 5: the PFL supercard. For got some boxing this weekend, of

2896
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 5: which I'm calling Saturday Night Orlando Amazon. Fine.

2897
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 1: Hey, okay, when Tim tim Zo takes.

2898
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 5: A challenges Bachrum Murazzi Murazzaliev for the IBF Junior middleweight

2899
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 5: title in a tripleheader Brian Custer, myself, Keith one Time, Thurman,

2900
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 5: Jordan Hard or Jordan Plank excuse me on the.

2901
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 1: Call this over under the number of times Keith Thurman

2902
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 1: refers to himself as Keith Thurman as one.

2903
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,480
Speaker 5: Time hopefully the whole night. That's what I hope. I

2904
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 5: hope he brings the flute out and starts playing.

2905
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 1: So this is not pay per view. If you're an

2906
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:25,879
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime subscriber, you can just get video.

2907
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 5: Check it out Saturday night. It'll be it'll be a

2908
02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 5: great time.

2909
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: Where's this fight?

2910
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 5: This is at the Koreba Royale in Orlando.

2911
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, there you go.

2912
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 5: That's what we got for the decent paycheck. It is

2913
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 5: a decent paycheck. Yeah, I'm back back in business. I'm

2914
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 5: coming for you. Okay, I'm coming for this life. Okay,

2915
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 5: I'm coming.

2916
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 1: Uh well, okay, Schwarz nigger, calm down over there. Let's

2917
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: remind everyone like and subscribe the whole nine yards. There

2918
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:54,280
Speaker 1: you go. You can buy our merch Morningcombat Dot Store

2919
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 1: Live ten take ten percent off if you're so inclined

2920
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 1: to take it off. Brian Campbell Experience on YouTube, Just

2921
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas on YouTube. On this side, and what else

2922
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: am I forgetting? Friday Live eleven am. We'll get you

2923
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: ready for a pfl Yeah, I.

2924
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 5: Think that's really about it. That's that's all, you know,

2925
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 5: that's all we plan for. Or a two hours and

2926
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 5: six minutes of the best show.

2927
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 1: Long now Luke plug your degenerate podcast.

2928
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 3: Everyone tune in. I'll have a new breakdown out tomorrow.

2929
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:17,880
Speaker 3: Main card minute.

2930
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 5: We have a we have a Fight Night card this Saturday.

2931
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 5: Michelle Padata versus who Fluffy Hernandez, Luffy Hernandez.

2932
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 1: It's a good one.

2933
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 5: But we got a worst Fight Night main event coming up.

2934
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 5: Neil Magni versus Carlos.

2935
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: Practish, practish. I think that's how they say, but I

2936
02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 1: don't know actually, So there you go.

2937
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 5: What does your quality control feel about that? As a

2938
02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 5: main event?

2939
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 1: If that was on the card of like a regular

2940
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 1: fight card, I'd be okay with it. But as a

2941
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: headlining fight it's suboptimal. But like I do like process.

2942
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is coming on, He's awesome.

2943
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:47,960
Speaker 1: He's awesome for sure. All Right, that's it. That's b

2944
02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 1: c IMLT. Thank you guys so much for watching. We'll

2945
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:51,960
Speaker 1: catch you on Friday at Live at eleven am in

2946
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 1: the East. Until next time, May all your gains be

2947
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 1: loyal