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Speaker 2: play the day, poll question stat of the Day, all
Speaker 2: of that forthcoming. The point spreads as of this morning
Speaker 2: according to DraftKings, I've got the Texans getting eight and
Speaker 2: a half, the Commanders getting eight and a half, the
Speaker 2: Rams are getting six, and the Bills at home are
Speaker 2: getting one and a half. Fritzi, It's Friday, Fritzi. He's
Speaker 2: got a few pole question suggestions seat and will also
Speaker 2: fill in some of the gray area there with some
Speaker 2: of his own. Well, recap the big basketball game last night.
Speaker 2: You probably didn't watch it, but the Oklahoma City Thunder
Speaker 2: now thirty four and six. They rough up the Cavaliers
Speaker 2: as they win by twenty and trying to make somebody
Speaker 2: a star in a city that doesn't make stars or
Speaker 2: a game that probably doesn't bear itself out and highlights
Speaker 2: on the mothership. That's Shay gilgis Alexander. You'd have to
Speaker 2: work on the name, the game and the fact that
Speaker 2: he's in Oklahoma City. But I think all signs are
Speaker 2: leading to him being the MVP this year. Might be
Speaker 2: a little MVP voter fatigue with the Joker, but Shay
Speaker 2: Gilgiss is averaging over thirty a game. He had over
Speaker 2: forty last night against the Cavaliers. We'll talk about that
Speaker 2: coming up. And he was second. He finished runner up
Speaker 2: to Joker last year, so it's not going to be
Speaker 2: a big surprise, but we'll talk about that. You're trying
Speaker 2: or it feels like there's analysts trying to let you know,
Speaker 2: watch him play. It's just he's not a highlight machine.
Speaker 2: He's just extremely economically great. It just he goes out
Speaker 2: there and he'll give you forty points. I think he's
Speaker 2: done that six times so far this season. Alrighty Todd,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you. You have a few Friday
Speaker 2: Fritzy Poll.
Speaker 4: Questions Texans aside, if the Lions reached the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: who should they want to play? That would be the Bills,
Speaker 4: Chiefs or Ravens. Who should the Lions want to play?
Speaker 4: If they're fortunate enough to reach the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I think it's weird to say the obvious answer would
Speaker 2: be the Kansas City Chiefs because they feel vulnerable at
Speaker 2: fifteen and two. I want no part of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: in a big game. I don't I don't been down
Speaker 2: that road too many times. No, not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: You can give me Lamar Jackson maybe one of the
Speaker 2: greatest seasons ever by a quarterback, and Josh Allen is
Speaker 2: probably going to be the runner up to him for MVP.
Speaker 2: I'll take my chances because those guys haven't been in
Speaker 2: this situation before. It's the same thing with Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many years he wasn't the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league. But if you said you got
Speaker 2: to win one game, or you had a game winning
Speaker 2: drive and you gave him the football or anybody else,
Speaker 2: you said, I'll take him. And that's what Mahomes is.
Speaker 2: Mahomes is not a stat machine. He hasn't been. They've
Speaker 2: changed the whole complexion of this team. It's a defensive team.
Speaker 2: They do run the football. Travis Kelcey has regressed a
Speaker 2: little bit the last couple of years. During the regular season.
Speaker 2: He's another guy where you go, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It seems to be slowing down a little bit, and
Speaker 2: it'll be like seven catches for ninety yards and with Mahomes, somehow,
Speaker 2: some way, you can't game plan for third and fifteen
Speaker 2: and he gets out of the pocket dances down the
Speaker 2: sidelines for sixteen. So I would say, I'll take my
Speaker 2: chances with Buffalo or the Texans or the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 2: anybody taking Kansas City that the Lions would want to
Speaker 2: face Old Hud.
Speaker 4: Okay, it'll be extra special to keep them from the
Speaker 4: three peats. I think. The Chiefs, to me, I understand
Speaker 4: your point, which are all valid, are a little less
Speaker 4: scary than Lamar and Josh and those two teams.
Speaker 2: Okay, But if I said the Broncos were in the
Speaker 2: AFC title, gay and you could face the Ravens, Bills
Speaker 2: are Chiefs? Who were you taking?
Speaker 4: Based on what happened in the regular season, they got
Speaker 4: destroyed forty one to ten against the Ravens. The Bills
Speaker 4: just destroyed the Broncos. Denver almost beat the Chiefs in
Speaker 4: Kansas City on a block field goal, and then they
Speaker 4: let them beat them thirty eight to nothing. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say I would take the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: They know us, but we know them.
Speaker 4: We played them twice a year, and I just think
Speaker 4: the Chiefs are ripe for the taking as a Bills
Speaker 4: and Ravens scamming more than the Chiefs, even with all
Speaker 4: the experience in my home seat.
Speaker 2: What about you? Yeah, we us let's go. Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel like the Chiefs are actually the last team
Speaker 6: that I want I would want to face, and probably
Speaker 6: for all of the reasons you just mentioned, actually owing
Speaker 6: for the three p they're completely unpredictable. I feel like
Speaker 6: you can game plan for a lot of different things,
Speaker 6: but you really can't game plan for that. You know,
Speaker 6: fourth and seventeen, you've got Patrick Mahomes exactly where you
Speaker 6: want to be scrambling, he jumps out of bounds and
Speaker 6: somehow throws a thirty seven yard dart to a wide
Speaker 6: open Kelsey, and this year, like, what the hell, we
Speaker 6: just had him sacked, We just had them on fourth down.
Speaker 6: You know, you can't really game plan for that.
Speaker 2: But you would also look at that game planning that
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is capable of those crazy plays and Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson capable of those plays. I've just seen it. When
Speaker 2: the game is on the line and it's time to pucker,
Speaker 2: and Mahomes is awesome.
Speaker 6: Yes, right, those guys are all capable of those things,
Speaker 6: but Patrick Mahomes does them regularly and right those other
Speaker 6: two quarterbacks they have more of a history of.
Speaker 2: Puckering.
Speaker 6: As you'd say that, they just makes them less scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie, I'm with you. I want no part of
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. The Chiefs have been right for the taking
Speaker 3: for straight years. It seems like every week they're down,
Speaker 3: every game they're down. How many playoff games have they
Speaker 3: been down? If I were a Lions fan going into
Speaker 3: the fourth quart of the Super Bowl up two touchdowns
Speaker 3: on the Chiefs, I'd be like, oh no, oh my.
Speaker 2: It would never be caught it. He's got us just
Speaker 2: where he wants to, right, you know, never comfortable. Dang it,
Speaker 2: dang it. We're only up two touchdowns going into the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. But the Ravens in Buffalo, and the Ravens
Speaker 2: favored on the road by one and a half. You know,
Speaker 2: you start to look at these and I always go,
Speaker 2: what's Vegas want me to do? Is Vegas saying, you
Speaker 2: know what you got to take the bills they're getting
Speaker 2: one and a half at home. That's what they're saying
Speaker 2: to you. And then you look at these numbers with
Speaker 2: the Commanders and the Lions eight and a half, Texans
Speaker 2: Chiefs eight and a half. It feels and this isn't
Speaker 2: fair to the Texans. I'll say that up front, like
Speaker 2: the Commanders are capable, might be more capable of beating
Speaker 2: the Lions in Detroit than the Texans beating the Chiefs
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. And maybe that's, you know, just the
Speaker 2: perception of or the lack of respect. The Texans get
Speaker 2: but eight and a half for both of these teams
Speaker 2: on the road. And then the Rams and the Eagles
Speaker 2: six point game. And I started to look at some
Speaker 2: of the prop bets. Here if I said over under
Speaker 2: rushing yards Saquon Barkley against the Rams, Marvin, you got
Speaker 2: a guess here, seventy five and a half, all right,
Speaker 2: Seaton eighty two, Paul eighty nine and a half.
Speaker 4: Todd, I'm going to say ninety four and a half.
Speaker 2: One twelve and a half. That's aggressive, no respect. That
Speaker 2: surprised me a little bit there, Yeah, yeah, uh. They
Speaker 2: expect Josh Allen to have more passing yards than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: How about Derrick Henry over under rushing yards Ravens Bills,
Speaker 2: Paul ninety six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 6: Eighty eight, Todd ninety and a half, Seaton two hundred
Speaker 6: and twenty seven and one half.
Speaker 2: Ninety seven and a half. PAULI had ninety six and
Speaker 2: a half. Yes, Patrick Mahomes passing yards against the Texans,
Speaker 2: Paul kind of low.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to twenty nine.
Speaker 2: And a half, alright, Marvin two forty eight and a half.
Speaker 4: Todd, We're kind of split the difference there to thirty
Speaker 4: seven and a half between those two guns.
Speaker 2: All right, Seaton, no connor, I'm gonna this is a
Speaker 2: bad guess.
Speaker 6: But to twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Two twenty seven and a half is c. J. Stroud's over.
Speaker 7: Gotta give him a love for that.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is two fifty and half. Just some of
Speaker 2: the random things here. Yeah, they got Josh Allen two
Speaker 2: forty eight and a half, Lamar Jackson to twenty four
Speaker 2: and a half. But and Poukinakua they expect him to
Speaker 2: have a really good game over under his eighty eight
Speaker 2: and a half yards in that matchup. All right, eight
Speaker 2: seven seven three DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
Speaker 2: Twitter handle at DP show once again David Carr from
Speaker 2: NFL Network. A little later on, we'll have the most
Speaker 2: must win game of the weekend. Got her play of
Speaker 2: the day coming up. Kind of a quiet last couple
Speaker 2: of days with the coaching moves. Aaron Rodgers talks about
Speaker 2: talking to the Jets, but Vegas has a new team,
Speaker 2: a new place that Aaron Rodgers, if he decides to
Speaker 2: play next year, that that would be the place that
Speaker 2: he would be going to. Paulie, I'll start with you.
Speaker 2: Vegas thinks that if Aaron Rodgers plays again, you know what,
Speaker 2: let me play. Aaron Rodgers on McAfee's show talking with
Speaker 2: the Jets, I.
Speaker 8: Gave some constructive things. Uh, It's there's so much that
Speaker 8: goes into the whole thing. There's there's the food, pa,
Speaker 8: there's the locker room, there's travel, there's hotel stuff, there's
Speaker 8: different you know, you're just giving a little constructive things
Speaker 8: here and there that maybe they take the heart, maybe
Speaker 8: they don't. I think everybody understands that it's going to
Speaker 8: come down to a GM and a coach and myself. Uh,
Speaker 8: and whether we all want to do.
Speaker 9: Do a dance together?
Speaker 8: Or if it's it's not in the cards, Okay.
Speaker 2: Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight,
Speaker 2: do down tonight. Figured that'd be right.
Speaker 4: Set me up still lovely even though you didn't mean to.
Speaker 2: Do you know who saying sings that? Not?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 2: Casey? Okay?
Speaker 10: Do you do you want?
Speaker 5: That's not them?
Speaker 2: It's not them, that's the Bay City Saturday. Wow. Come on,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 5: Come on, come on, how can I fail that.
Speaker 2: The money ask questions? Don't mail it in just because
Speaker 2: it's Friday. Let's go. I got to pick it up
Speaker 2: every day. Is the Super Bowl all right?
Speaker 11: Here?
Speaker 2: It is Vegas. Is the place that Vegas thinks that
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is going to go. Yeah, the Raiders are
Speaker 2: the favorites for Aaron Rodgers. And uh, I was a
Speaker 2: little bit surprised that, well we brought this up here.
Speaker 2: Can you get him to come in as your bridge quarterback?
Speaker 2: Would Tom Brady entertain that as the new owner of
Speaker 2: the Raiders? Man, unless I thought my team could be
Speaker 2: good and and and compete, you know, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: in a division where the Broncos, Chargers and Chiefs all
Speaker 2: made the playoffs. So is Aaron Rodgers going to help
Speaker 2: help me with anything other than attendance? And you're already
Speaker 2: a tourist attraction. Now you don't have a home field advantage.
Speaker 2: But do I want Aaron Rodgers or do I bring
Speaker 2: in somebody else and go, Can I get through this
Speaker 2: next season and then maybe we start to build this
Speaker 2: into a champion again? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3: Lifestyle wise, it makes a ton of sense for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: He could live out by pow Rump or Area fifty
Speaker 3: one or what do they get a double white out there?
Speaker 3: Would a satellite dish. He'd be perfect lifestyle wise.
Speaker 2: Okay, anybody else have thought?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 2: I thought maybe Pittsburgh, but he just doesn't fit in
Speaker 2: with what Pittsburgh's whole philosophy is. I can't see that happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, Russ didn't really fit in. I mean he tried,
Speaker 2: but I just can't imagine Aaron being on McAfee talking
Speaker 2: about whatever he's talking about and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's got to go to the press conference, say
Speaker 2: hey said the following on Pat McAfee. That feels like
Speaker 2: that would get really old, really quick for Tomlin. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think it's got to be someplace that we don't expect.
Speaker 2: They were like, hey, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's gonna be one of those wow,
Speaker 6: that makes a lot of sense places at all. Like
Speaker 6: it it's gonna be like New Orleans or something where you're.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, yeah, I could. It's out of nowhere.
Speaker 6: Him and DeVante Adams and two more of his buddies
Speaker 6: are going to be like, why don't we just go
Speaker 6: all land at the Saints?
Speaker 2: Right now feels like it'll be Tennessee or the Raiders
Speaker 2: if I was guessing. I have no information on that
Speaker 2: other than just what I could see. Maybe one year
Speaker 2: with the Raiders, but they're just not ready to win.
Speaker 2: So why do I want to do that? Why do
Speaker 2: I want to spend that money? It almost feels like
Speaker 2: you take a step back before you take two steps forward.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean he can't play a high I
Speaker 2: mean his numbers were really good with the Jets, where
Speaker 2: that's where stats are deceiving, where you go, man, all right,
Speaker 2: not bad. The thing that I would want to look
Speaker 2: at is his fourth quarter numbers, because that's the quarterback
Speaker 2: I want. That's what I need. These games are all
Speaker 2: decided by seven points or less. What did your quarterback
Speaker 2: do when the game was on the line, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 4: Along with your thoughts on the Titans in a winnable
Speaker 4: AFC South, Would the Colts take a shot with him
Speaker 4: for a year they were in the playoff picture up
Speaker 4: until towards the very end there Week sixteen, Week seventeen.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I mean they do have talent there and
Speaker 2: probably had enough talent to win that division. They just
Speaker 2: didn't get consistent quarterback play. And Anthony Richardson's not ready,
Speaker 2: not ready yet, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5: And for the Colts, that's on brand for them. They
Speaker 5: brought in what Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan. They'll try
Speaker 5: their hand that another veteran quarterback.
Speaker 13: Why not?
Speaker 2: Blue? Bloop bloop blue. We'll take a break when we
Speaker 2: come back. Yes, Joe Flacco coming back again?
Speaker 4: Checking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so he might be coming back? Who knows? Sure?
Speaker 2: Why not? Yes? Mark?
Speaker 5: Can he win a comeback Player of the Year twice?
Speaker 2: Not back to back?
Speaker 3: I think Chad Pennington is a two time comeback Player
Speaker 3: of the Year winner. But you can't come back twice
Speaker 3: because if you came back, you have to revert back
Speaker 3: to badness.
Speaker 2: I think, but could something bad happen during that next
Speaker 2: season that you came back from and then you won
Speaker 2: come back player, come back, back, back back actually yeah,
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. Yeah, Steve Stricker, I think won
Speaker 2: Comeback Player of the Year twice on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2: I think when we come back a little bit later
Speaker 2: on this first hour, we'll bring back a portion of
Speaker 2: the interview I did with Bob Yuker. That was the
Speaker 2: last time that we had him on the show, passing
Speaker 2: away at the age of ninety. We'll take a break
Speaker 2: just getting started. Phone calls, we'll get to those as well.
Speaker 2: Settle on our poll question. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: Oh we made it to a Friday. It's hour two
Speaker 2: on the program. Come on in stay a while. The
Speaker 2: Gangzell Here Friday, Fritzie and rare Form is always it
Speaker 2: is a meat Friday. And it feels like Tyler mailed
Speaker 2: it in a little bit here at least according to
Speaker 2: Todd burgers and waffle fries. Who has it better than
Speaker 2: we do? Nobody? Okay, it sounds a little better, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, though, I don't sleep on a
Speaker 3: great cheeseburger and fries, especially like if you did that
Speaker 3: meal for when you're on death row, people will go
Speaker 3: lobster and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I might go.
Speaker 3: Half pound cheeseburger, fries and a doctor pepper is my
Speaker 3: jailhouse meal. I'm telling you, I thought, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: A cheeseburger, doctor pepper and fries.
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't have to worry about my health going
Speaker 3: forward for you know, a block an hour. That might
Speaker 3: be my jailhouse meal. Dang, what about Utah jail house meal?
Speaker 2: Two well done.
Speaker 4: Burgers, two hot dogs, French fries, and either a mountain
Speaker 4: dew or a doctor Brown's black cherry.
Speaker 3: You're gonna die of something else before the electric chair.
Speaker 4: Exact burgers, hot dogs, fries and black cherry or mountain dew?
Speaker 2: Uh seating? What about you death row meal?
Speaker 13: Mm?
Speaker 6: Probably a rabbi baked potato. I really like broccoli, so
Speaker 6: why not, and some mint chocolate chip ice cream.
Speaker 2: I'm not really worried about the healthy.
Speaker 6: I just actually like broccoli. I think it's really good,
Speaker 6: so probably do that, but definitely some mint chocolate chip
Speaker 6: ice cream.
Speaker 2: Marvin, how about.
Speaker 5: You lasagna and garlic bread, would a lemonade, no ice
Speaker 5: and then to finish that off a Swiss cake roll
Speaker 5: from Little Debbie.
Speaker 2: That's pretty specific. Have you thought about this apparently?
Speaker 5: Maybe once?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd probably go some pesto, nice wedge salad.
Speaker 6: The goat wedge salad is the best of all salads.
Speaker 2: If you get a great wedge salad. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just one of those where you go, go, it's the best.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then I probably wash it down with a nice
Speaker 2: bottle of wine. It's funny.
Speaker 6: I've had your death Row meal with you easily one
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 2: And it's pretty good. That's like anytime.
Speaker 6: How many times in New Orleans when we're there for
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl? Will you have that exact same meal?
Speaker 6: Many times?
Speaker 7: If?
Speaker 2: If if I can, But pesto, pesto is just that's
Speaker 2: that's just different. If I can, if I can get it,
Speaker 2: if they can make it. I went to Augusta when
Speaker 2: I played Augusta, and you you can get whatever's on
Speaker 2: the menu. But they have a chef, he'll come out
Speaker 2: and you know, if you say, hey, i'd like to
Speaker 2: have And so he said, is there anything that's not
Speaker 2: on the menu that you might want? And I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I won't be back at Augusta playing,
Speaker 2: you know, this golf course, so sure i'd like some pesto.
Speaker 2: And he looked at me like awesome, Like somebody is
Speaker 2: ordering something that you know I'd like to make. So
Speaker 2: steak pesto and eighteen holes at Augusta. That's not a
Speaker 2: bad way to go if they let you do something
Speaker 2: with your meal on death row, like you could do something. Hey,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get this great meal. What else do you
Speaker 2: want to do that day? That might not be a
Speaker 2: bad way to go out play an eighteen at Augusta
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Speaker 2: Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show Yes, Paul,
Speaker 2: that was very random. I was thinking about Marvin's dish.
Speaker 3: He would get lasagna, which is great for leftovers, but
Speaker 3: not necessarily in this case.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you don't know if somebody's going around
Speaker 2: going any did he leave anything? Hey, I can't eat
Speaker 2: all of this. You guys want to freeze this put
Speaker 2: it an refrigerator. Yeah, be good, all right. Poll question
Speaker 2: Seaton for hour two is going to be what well,
Speaker 2: our one are extremely specific. Poll question was Texans aside,
Speaker 2: if the Lions reached the Super Bowl, who should.
Speaker 6: They want to face?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 6: The Buffalo Bills have forty three percent of that vote,
Speaker 6: the Kansas City Chiefs at forty one, just sixteen percent
Speaker 6: of the Ravens.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to David Carr of NFL Network. We'll do
Speaker 2: the must win game of the weekend, Mike Florio, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 2: we'll join us a little bit later on as well.
Speaker 2: The updated odds for this weekend. You have Saturday Texans Chiefs.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are favored by eight and a half, Commander's
Speaker 2: Lions lines favored by eight and a half. Then on
Speaker 2: Sunday it's the Eagles six point favorites and the Ravens
Speaker 2: and the Bills. The Ravens favored by one and a half.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get phone calls coming up. We have
Speaker 2: a poll question, Paulie, would you run through now? Let
Speaker 2: me see how many games are outside? So we have
Speaker 2: the Chiefs game outside, the Bills game outside the Eagles game.
Speaker 2: So you have the Lions game. We don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about the weather right any other game where weather
Speaker 2: could be an issue.
Speaker 3: I did check though the Lions it will be seventy
Speaker 3: two and no wins. Inside it will be okay, there's
Speaker 3: actual temperature. The Kansas City game, it should be twenty
Speaker 3: three degrees a kickoff and pretty breezy.
Speaker 2: No snow expected.
Speaker 3: The Eagles game. They're expecting three to five inches of
Speaker 3: snow during the day and dropping temperatures around game time.
Speaker 3: It could be the lowest twenty degrees with snow for
Speaker 3: the Eagles game. And then the Buffalo game. They're expecting
Speaker 3: twelve degrees a kickoff and a forty percent chance of snow.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I like that. This will be the coldest
Speaker 2: game I believe Lamar Jackson has played in in his career.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Does that mean there's
Speaker 2: more running by both of these teams. It feels like
Speaker 2: these teams are running teams, even though Lamart put up
Speaker 2: incredible passing numbers. But it feels like Buffalo is a
Speaker 2: running team and they're probably going to need to be
Speaker 2: a running team. I don't think you can match Boltimore's running,
Speaker 2: but that's where Josh Allen comes in and he'll be
Speaker 2: running and passing as well. I want to see Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson play great if they lose, okay, but I want
Speaker 2: to see him play great. Same with Josh Allen play great.
Speaker 2: And then you know somebody else is going to decide that,
Speaker 2: or I hope somebody else does. Is it the defense?
Speaker 2: Is it a running back, is it a wide receiver,
Speaker 2: is it a defensive back? Just something like that, because
Speaker 2: you get to this point and Dan Orlovsky has been
Speaker 2: on this topic here for the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: where we put so much emphasis on a quarterback that
Speaker 2: when they, you know, team wins, they win. When the
Speaker 2: team loses, it's the quarterback who loses. But I would
Speaker 2: remind Dan that when quarterbacks win super Bowls their team.
Speaker 2: We talk about the quarterback winning the Super Bowl. We
Speaker 2: don't talk about you know, o ce Yumanora with the
Speaker 2: Giants winning super Bowls, right, nobody says that maybe a
Speaker 2: running back a little bit. Terrell Davis, you know that
Speaker 2: that was his super Bowl, but we gave it to
Speaker 2: John it was John Elways won a couple of super Bowls.
Speaker 2: So yes, there is a lot of attention a lot
Speaker 2: of pressure, a lot of criticism, a lot of compliments.
Speaker 2: That's the position. There's no other position like it in sports.
Speaker 2: We do that with pitchers when we get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You know that they but they have the ball in
Speaker 2: their hands, just like a quarterback does. They still need
Speaker 2: a team around them. Score some runs, play some defense,
Speaker 2: all of those things. But we give credit to these
Speaker 2: quarterbacks because the quarterbacks are the Sean O'Hara offensive lineman
Speaker 2: for the Giants, he got two super Bowls. I believe
Speaker 2: he's not going into the Hall of Fame. Nobody says, hey,
Speaker 2: Sean O'Hara, he won two super Bowls. I mean Eli
Speaker 2: won two Super bowl Eli's going into the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame because he won two Super Bowls. These guys are
Speaker 2: making fifty sixty million dollars a year and with that
Speaker 2: comes all the attention. Whatever that is justin Herbert. We
Speaker 2: may not he may not like it, or people may
Speaker 2: not like it or feel like we're piling on. He
Speaker 2: played poorly. He played poor in two playoff games, and
Speaker 2: you have to single you have to, you know, be
Speaker 2: critical of that. You know, I think it's sometimes it's
Speaker 2: too easy to go, oh, well, the defense let him down,
Speaker 2: or his wide receivers let Yes, but it still comes
Speaker 2: back to the quarterback. These wins and losses are on
Speaker 2: a quarterback. You know, I go back to when the
Speaker 2: Falcons lost to the Patriots. We don't mention dan Quinn
Speaker 2: was the head coach, that was Kyle Shanahan, and that
Speaker 2: was Matt Ryan. They lost. Dan Quinn didn't lose the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but he did. He was the head coach,
Speaker 2: But it was on Kyle Shanahan. Oh, offensive genius, trying
Speaker 2: to pass, Why don't you just kick a field goal?
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan was MVP. It was on Matt Ryan. So yes,
Speaker 2: do we give him too much credit? Yes? Do we
Speaker 2: give him too much blame? Absolutely? Yes, Marvin. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And if Matt Ryan wins that Super Bowl, he's probably
Speaker 5: in the Hall. But now it's going to be it eh,
Speaker 5: because that twenty eight three is going to be hanging
Speaker 5: over his head like a sore thumb.
Speaker 2: Yes, it might keep him out, a win would put
Speaker 2: him in. So that's that's one player who truly benefits
Speaker 2: from that. And sometimes you know with coaches, where you go, oh,
Speaker 2: he won a couple of Super Bowls and that can
Speaker 2: be enough to get into a Hall of Fame, Like
Speaker 2: if Sean Payton would win another one, or Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: won another one, then no doubt Mike Tomlin is probably
Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame. It feels like his
Speaker 2: resume matches. Bill Cowers. Yes, Mark, and.
Speaker 5: I think also it depends on where you win. I
Speaker 5: think Sean Payton's already in because he won with the Saints.
Speaker 5: And when I was a kid, they were the Aints.
Speaker 5: Put a paper bag over your head in the super Dome.
Speaker 5: So I think it's where you win that helps also
Speaker 5: big time, Like if Jared Golf wins the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: for the Lions, that's going to help his Super Bowl
Speaker 5: cause unbelievably greatly, his Hall of Fame, his Hall of
Speaker 5: Fame case. Yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I agree, yeah.
Speaker 2: Paul, Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you look at Eli Manning's career, he threw for
Speaker 3: fifty seven thousand yards and three hundred and sixty six touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Matt Ryan threw for sixty five thousand yards and three
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty one touchdowns. He was one twenty four
Speaker 3: and one oh nine as a starter. Eli was a
Speaker 3: five hundred starter. If you compare him just that, Matt
Speaker 3: Ryan had a distinctly better career regular season and you
Speaker 3: know super Bowls, that's over.
Speaker 8: Johnny.
Speaker 2: If Eli is one in one in the super Bowl
Speaker 2: like Russell Wilson, I don't think he's a Hall of famer.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that without David Tyree that catch
Speaker 2: and then Plexico Burris, he's not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I don't think even doing it in New York with
Speaker 2: that last name Griffin and Cincinnati, Hi Griff, good morning.
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Morning, Dan?
Speaker 13: And the dan etes Dan, I just wanted to get
Speaker 13: your thoughts on Don Yee saying that Tom Brady plans
Speaker 13: to finish out his contract with Fox, even though there's
Speaker 13: been a lot of chatter that this could be just
Speaker 13: a one and done deal. And if you could put
Speaker 13: yourself in Greg Olsen's shoes, how would you take the
Speaker 13: news and what would be your next step?
Speaker 12: Thanks? Dan?
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Griff, Tom Brady's Tom Brady's agent.
Speaker 2: I was told this this morning. Now, whether it's going
Speaker 2: to happen, he has to put out fires. That's what
Speaker 2: that comment was. He's putting out a fire and maybe
Speaker 2: Tom does it for ten years. I was told it's
Speaker 2: too much money for a part time job for him
Speaker 2: to walk away. I was told that by source this morning,
Speaker 2: and look, I couldn't care less. If he wants to
Speaker 2: do it, great, Is he learning on the job in
Speaker 2: front of a whole lot of people? He is? Does
Speaker 2: he enjoy it? Does he want to continue? If I'm
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen, I just continued to do what I'm doing
Speaker 2: because you're the underdog, and people will they're going to
Speaker 2: think fondly of you, and they'll be excited. Probably when
Speaker 2: you're doing a game. They'll be by, Oh, Greg Olsen's
Speaker 2: doing the game. But I don't If Tom is doing
Speaker 2: it and doesn't want to commit full time to the
Speaker 2: Raiders job, okay, if he can do both, great. The
Speaker 2: NFL has already said we're looking the other way with
Speaker 2: conflict of interest here. They've already said that. I mean
Speaker 2: they are saying it by allowing Tom to be an announcer.
Speaker 2: And you got Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn who are
Speaker 2: probably going to be interviewed by the Raiders or held
Speaker 2: in high esteem with the Raiders for their head coaching
Speaker 2: vacancy and Tom is there doing the game. Feels like
Speaker 2: a conflict of interest there. But if the NFL is
Speaker 2: going to let him do it. He is getting paid
Speaker 2: thirty seven million dollars for just doing that part time basis,
Speaker 2: and maybe he does it for a little while Longer.
Speaker 2: I thought, maybe you do it, prove that you can
Speaker 2: do it. You did a Super Bowl, and then maybe
Speaker 2: you move on to other things. But I don't know, Tom,
Speaker 2: you know what motivates him. I just felt, if you're
Speaker 2: going to be an owner, and now you're getting the
Speaker 2: keys to being that owner with the Raiders, then you
Speaker 2: go all in. I don't think you can do either
Speaker 2: part time, but you have a better chance of being
Speaker 2: an announcer part time. It feels like than if you
Speaker 2: want to be all in as an owner because the
Speaker 2: Raiders need a lot of help. We'll talk to David Carr,
Speaker 2: former number one overall pick. We have the most must
Speaker 2: win game of the weekend as well. We'll take a break.
Speaker 2: We're back after this and The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: Final Hour. In this Meet Friday, we'll talk to Mike
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Speaker 2: and pull question for the final hour of the program,
Speaker 2: And if you want to recap the first two hours
Speaker 2: of the program, that'd be great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got one up here now, Polly sent over
Speaker 6: NFL quarterbacks get too much credit or too much blame?
Speaker 9: Right now?
Speaker 6: That is a fifty one to forty nine split. Do
Speaker 6: you want to guess which.
Speaker 2: One they get too much blame?
Speaker 6: Fifty one percent have them getting too much blame?
Speaker 2: Yes, too much blame.
Speaker 6: Does that mean that they those people wil simply they
Speaker 6: don't get enough credit? Is that the flip side of
Speaker 6: the coin or no?
Speaker 2: I think so? I think so, yes, Paul.
Speaker 3: Based off this result, the quarterbacks getting the exact amount
Speaker 3: of blame and credit.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to point out. Great
Speaker 2: point by you, Paul, they get too much blame and
Speaker 2: too much credit. And this bears that out. The poll
Speaker 2: question for the final hour.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we just put that one up about three minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and what about the poll questions the previous hours,
Speaker 2: anything to recap there?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, we have up there, Texans aside. If the
Speaker 6: Lions reached the Super Bowl, who should they want to play?
Speaker 9: Right now?
Speaker 6: They should want to play At forty two point three
Speaker 6: percent of the vote, the Chiefs at forty two point
Speaker 6: one percent is the Bills. I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 6: They don't want to play the Ravens. I'll tell you
Speaker 6: apparently not.
Speaker 2: Apparently not. But it's weird to say. Yeah, bring on,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. I know it feels like they've been vulnerable
Speaker 2: all season long, but they also in these games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're close games, but they win these games. The number,
Speaker 2: the inordinate amount of games that are decided by seven
Speaker 2: points or less, it's at an all time high this season.
Speaker 2: You've got the one guy, you got, the fixer, you
Speaker 2: got the closer, you got Mariana Rivera Enter Sandman, and
Speaker 2: that's the difference in these games. It can be one
Speaker 2: possession and oftentimes it is. And if I have the
Speaker 2: ultimate one possession guy, I don't want to face him.
Speaker 2: I want to see Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen do
Speaker 2: it and keep doing it at you know, whether the
Speaker 2: pressure is really on them. We've seen the pressure on Mahomes.
Speaker 2: He does really good when the pressure is on it.
Speaker 2: So I understand where you'd say that feels like they're vulnerable,
Speaker 2: and they probably are, But Patrick Mahomes isn't vulnerable. Now.
Speaker 2: I would worry about the offensive line, as we saw
Speaker 2: when they played against Tampa a few years ago. When
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has an ordinary line, he's ordinary and Tampa
Speaker 2: treated him that way. It doesn't happen very often, but
Speaker 2: it does feel like Kelsey is not Kelsey great Kelsey.
Speaker 2: He's good Kelsey, but he's another one of those big
Speaker 2: game game on the line. Six catches for ninety yards
Speaker 2: in a touchdown. It just feels like you can pencil
Speaker 2: that those kind of numbers in there all right. Eight
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Speaker 2: That would be great product placement, Mike, if he's reading
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Speaker 12: Going to Philly and I'm taking it with me and
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Speaker 12: past Big Dom. I've got Sims and Devin mccorty ready
Speaker 12: to create a diversion and I'm gonna put it in
Speaker 12: the right spot and I'm hoping that we have that
Speaker 12: same jarring moment that we had.
Speaker 7: And I was watching the live and I'm like, what
Speaker 7: the hell He's got a book, and it was awesome.
Speaker 12: I always promote reading ninety nine cents. Can't find anything
Speaker 12: cheaper than that. Can't get this for ninety nine only
Speaker 12: the e book. You know, paper ain't free. But i
Speaker 12: want to get this in AJ Brown's hands and I'm
Speaker 12: taking it to Philly.
Speaker 7: It might get a little wet because it's going to
Speaker 7: snow now.
Speaker 2: But that's okay, what are you being told weatherwise? I
Speaker 2: know Kansas City will be cold. There's the chance for
Speaker 2: snow in Philadelphia, maybe in Buffalo as well.
Speaker 12: Well. The thing about weather forecasts, and I don't mean
Speaker 12: to in the entire industry, but it seems to me
Speaker 12: the only weather they.
Speaker 7: Ever get right is yesterday's.
Speaker 12: But at the same time, it's moving towards snow and
Speaker 12: the temperature is going to peak at thirty six degrees.
Speaker 12: This is your weather on the ones here on the
Speaker 12: Dan Patrick Show. It's going to peak at thirty six
Speaker 12: and it's going to gradually drop throughout the day. And then
Speaker 12: we have a nor'easter or something that's going to cause
Speaker 12: four to five inches of snow.
Speaker 7: Throughout the day.
Speaker 12: And it looks like the greatest chance of snow comes
Speaker 12: right about the time we'll be freezing our asses off
Speaker 12: on the sideline before the game and during the game.
Speaker 12: And remember that twenty thirteen Lions Eagles game in Philly.
Speaker 12: Matthew Stafford was the quarterback of the Lions. Then he's
Speaker 12: been through it. The rest of the team has not been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we were talking to David Carr, and he said,
Speaker 2: cold is what affects you. He said, you know, if
Speaker 2: it snows, you're okay with that. Wind is that's the
Speaker 2: big thing, if you know, if it's windy in these
Speaker 2: conditions here, And I was just talking about I kind
Speaker 2: of stumbled on this last hour where I said to
Speaker 2: David Carr, it feels like the Lions have more pressure
Speaker 2: on them than anybody else, including the team trying to
Speaker 2: threepeat in the Kansas City Chiefs. You're gonna lose your coordinators.
Speaker 2: Probably you had your opportunity last year. These windows close,
Speaker 2: and it just feels like they have the spotlight on them,
Speaker 2: shining a little brighter than anybody else.
Speaker 12: Your thoughts, yeo, When you talk about yourself as a
Speaker 12: team of destiny, that just amps it up even more.
Speaker 12: Now you're coming in as eight and a half point
Speaker 12: favorites against a team that feels more. If you watch
Speaker 12: the outcomes of some of these commander's games, it feels
Speaker 12: like destiny is on their side, not your side. And
Speaker 12: the challenge I think for Dan Campbell and the Lions
Speaker 12: because they've crafted this identity and being aggressive and going
Speaker 12: for it and that's who we are.
Speaker 7: You don't even wonder anymore when it's fourth and anything
Speaker 7: less than five.
Speaker 12: But man, when you get into single elimination, you have
Speaker 12: to wonder, are there moments where you should set aside
Speaker 12: who you are and work the circumstance dances toward winning
Speaker 12: the game. I go back to the NFC Championship. They're
Speaker 12: up seventeen at the half, the forty nine Ers get
Speaker 12: a field goal to cut it to fourteen.
Speaker 7: On the first drive of the third quarter.
Speaker 12: They get in position to put it back to a
Speaker 12: three score game and really put the clamps on the
Speaker 12: forty nine Ers, But they went for it because that's
Speaker 12: what we always do, and that's fine as long as
Speaker 12: it works. When it doesn't work, it opened the door
Speaker 12: for the comeback, and they came back and they knocked
Speaker 12: out the lines. Will Dan Campbell pivot from the nature
Speaker 12: of the team in the right moment to preserve a win.
Speaker 12: And when you're talking about a team like the Commanders
Speaker 12: that thrives on close games, it introduces even more risk
Speaker 12: if you are caught in this idea of do we
Speaker 12: go for the kill here or do we play it conservatively?
Speaker 12: And maybe with the Commanders you could make the argument
Speaker 12: it is the smart thing to do to go for
Speaker 12: a knockout whenever you can get one.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk. You can
Speaker 2: see that show preceding hours on Peacock. Why is the
Speaker 2: coaching carousel slowed down.
Speaker 12: Because there's only two guys who are no brainers going
Speaker 12: into it, Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson. Now, with Ben Johnson,
Speaker 12: the question is is there a spot where he is
Speaker 12: willing to go and give up this opportunity to be
Speaker 12: part of an emerging juggernaut in Detroit. And also, not
Speaker 12: every guy wants to be the guy at the front
Speaker 12: of the room. I've heard that Ben Johnson relishes his
Speaker 12: current role as mad scientists, coming up with all these
Speaker 12: trick plays, running the offense and not dealing with the
Speaker 12: pressure of being the head coach. Look at what Dan
Speaker 12: Campbell has to deal with. I mean he got docksed.
Speaker 12: They had people show up at his house. When you're
Speaker 12: the offensive coordinator, that doesn't happen. When you're the head coach,
Speaker 12: that happens. And alignment has been the word most associated
Speaker 12: with Ben Johnson. He wants alignment with the front office.
Speaker 7: So you look at some of these.
Speaker 12: Jobs where there's a GM that maybe isn't going to
Speaker 12: be as aligned. And then you look at the Raiders
Speaker 12: where two days after they fired the head coach, they cleared.
Speaker 7: Out the GM.
Speaker 12: The alignment is more likely going to be in Vegas
Speaker 12: if he chooses that job, and all indications when you
Speaker 12: talk to people around the league are the Raiders really
Speaker 12: want him? The question is does he want to leave
Speaker 12: the Lions for anyone, specifically a Raiders team that needs
Speaker 12: a lot of help to become a contender.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wondered about this that does he stay. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many assistant coaches, Mike and you probably
Speaker 2: have a better handle on this. Coordinators who realize that
Speaker 2: they aren't head coaches or that maybe they don't want
Speaker 2: to be head coaches. And I'm just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2: I don't have any numbers to back that up. It
Speaker 2: feels like that's the natural progression. But yeah, as I've
Speaker 2: said many times, the audience is tired of hearing it.
Speaker 2: Not every coordinator is meant to be a head coach.
Speaker 12: Well. The other thing too, Dan, When you're a coordinator
Speaker 12: and the window opens for you to be a head coach,
Speaker 12: some guys feel like they'd better jump through it now
Speaker 12: because it might close by next year. Johnson has the confidence,
Speaker 12: and it's backed up by having a great team on
Speaker 12: the field that he's working with that the window is
Speaker 12: going to stay open. So I don't have to go
Speaker 12: this year. He didn't go last year. You'll wait for
Speaker 12: the right spot. The problem is these jobs rarely come
Speaker 12: open because the team looking for a coach is a
Speaker 12: properly functioning NFL franchise. Every team, unless you have a
Speaker 12: retirement when the guy walks away and the team's on top,
Speaker 12: every team that's looking for a coach is a bad
Speaker 12: team that is trying to find a way to get better.
Speaker 12: So you go into a dysfunctional situation. Two or three
Speaker 12: years later, you get fired, you have that scarlet letter
Speaker 12: on your coaching resume, and then you go back to
Speaker 12: being a coordinator. I think Johnson understands that and it
Speaker 12: makes him reluctant to just take whatever comes along. There's
Speaker 12: a lot of factors that go into it, but number
Speaker 12: one is alignment, and if he doesn't have the alignment,
Speaker 12: he's not leaving. And I think this year, when you
Speaker 12: look at the jobs out there, you look at the
Speaker 12: teams that have interviewed him like the Jets are at
Speaker 12: least sufficiently self aware to not even bother to try
Speaker 12: to interview Don Johnson, right, So I give them credit there.
Speaker 7: They know what they are. But I think it's the.
Speaker 12: Raiders or Lions take that Raider's job or stay put
Speaker 12: for Johnson.
Speaker 2: Your favorite player Aaron Rodgers. Not sure if he's going
Speaker 2: to play again next year, but I saw where the
Speaker 2: Vegas odds the favorites the Vegas football team. Your thoughts
Speaker 2: on Tom Brady bringing in Aaron Rodgers for a year, Well, it.
Speaker 12: Makes sense depending upon who they ultimately hire as GM
Speaker 12: and head coach. I think he's not going to be
Speaker 12: back with the Jets. I think he wants the Jets
Speaker 12: to be the ones to end it. But I don't
Speaker 12: think he wants to go back to the Jets after
Speaker 12: the last two years. When you consider your ultimate football legacy,
Speaker 12: nothing's going to take away what he.
Speaker 7: Did in Green Bay. But I think any.
Speaker 12: Competitor wants the last memory of you to be something
Speaker 12: other than what it's been with the Jets the last
Speaker 12: two years. And for him, where's my spot where I
Speaker 12: can do what I thought I was going to do
Speaker 12: with the Jets, and I don't know that the Raiders
Speaker 12: are in When you're looking at the Chiefs and here
Speaker 12: are the Broncos who are ready to make a push,
Speaker 12: and the Chargers with Jim Harbaugh. It's going to be
Speaker 12: very difficult for the Raiders as long as they're in
Speaker 12: that division competing with those three teams. So that would
Speaker 12: be the one downside if you're Rogers. Yeah, hey, it
Speaker 12: makes sense. I know, Brady, Hey, they need a quarterback,
Speaker 12: you know, Las Vegas whatever, proximity to where he lives
Speaker 12: in the offseason, But is it really a spot where
Speaker 12: you're gonna have a chance to compete for a postseason
Speaker 12: berth and ultimately a championship.
Speaker 2: How real is the Deonda Dallas story in your opinion?
Speaker 12: Well, I think it was a master's stroke of publicity
Speaker 12: and attention. They drop it that Deonna talked to Jerry
Speaker 12: Jones during the Rams Vikings playoff game. They know what
Speaker 12: they're doing, and there's a lot of that Carnival Barker
Speaker 12: and Jerry Jones, but.
Speaker 7: I just don't see it happening under the current circumstances.
Speaker 12: And now Deon's a guy who said a year ago
Speaker 12: he'd never coached in the NFL. Then he says, I'd
Speaker 12: only coach my sons. Well, Shadur's not going to be
Speaker 12: the quarterback of the Cowboys next year. He may not
Speaker 12: be the quarterback of the Cowboys for a long time
Speaker 12: to come because of Dak Prescott's contract. So I don't
Speaker 12: see it making sense. But how many things do the
Speaker 12: Cowboys do that make sense? And at the end of
Speaker 12: the day, who are they going to hire? And here's
Speaker 12: the problem with doing the Hey we're going to talk
Speaker 12: to dian and Hey, we're going to talk to this guy,
Speaker 12: and hey, we're gonna talk about Bill Belichick. And our
Speaker 12: new coach is Kellen Moore. It's kind of a letdown,
Speaker 12: all due respect to Kevin Moore at the end of
Speaker 12: Kellen Moore at the end of the day, if that's
Speaker 12: where it goes. But I think a lot of people
Speaker 12: are thinking it's going to be Kellen Moore when it's
Speaker 12: all said and done with this weird possibility that Jason
Speaker 12: Witten could make the jump from high school football coach
Speaker 12: to Cowboys coach, because there are people who think one
Speaker 12: of these days is going to be the head coach
Speaker 12: of the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: It just might not be now, yeah.
Speaker 2: But he made that jump to broadcasting and that didn't
Speaker 2: go well for Jason Witten. I would think it would
Speaker 2: be a tough a tougher jump from high school football
Speaker 2: to coaching the Cowboys. See Oh my god, you're right.
Speaker 2: You're right, Dan, It's not real.
Speaker 7: I mean, is it really a coveted job? Is it really?
Speaker 12: When you go to Dallas, you have to accept the
Speaker 12: fact that Jerry's the one who's shopping for the groceries,
Speaker 12: that Jerry's going to do two radio spots a week
Speaker 12: that are going to make headlines during the season, that
Speaker 12: he's going to do a postgame media scrum that's going
Speaker 12: to outshine your postgame press conference. You've got to be
Speaker 12: ready to deal with that if you're a head coach,
Speaker 12: and a lot of these guys who want to be
Speaker 12: the head coach don't want Jerry Jones to be the
Speaker 12: face and voice of the team.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think being the coach of the Cowboys
Speaker 2: means as much as it once did thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: I still think being the quarterback of the Cowboys still
Speaker 2: means an awful lot. But that's the problem I have
Speaker 2: with this job. No matter who takes the job, You've
Speaker 2: got a thirty two year old, injury prone, immobile quarterback
Speaker 2: who's making who's owed over two hundred and thirty million
Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed. That's not something I want to walk into.
Speaker 12: Cowboys have done a great job drafting and developing. They
Speaker 12: have made numerous mistakes figuring out what to do with
Speaker 12: their young players when it's time to pay them. They've
Speaker 12: paid the wrong guys like Michael Gallup. They've not paid
Speaker 12: or waited too long to pay the right guys, which
Speaker 12: paints them into a corner. They did that twice with
Speaker 12: Dak Prescott. They did that Dak Prescott current contract sixty
Speaker 12: million a year with all that guaranteed money, on the
Speaker 12: morning of the regular season opener, because they knew we
Speaker 12: need to do this or he's gonna walk away as
Speaker 12: a free agent. And in hindsight, plenty of Cowboys fans
Speaker 12: would say, we should have let him play it out
Speaker 12: and start from scratch at the quarterback position. But they
Speaker 12: have just mishandled the negotiations. They wait too long, they
Speaker 12: lowball the players, and then they come around and cry uncle,
Speaker 12: it's just not a good way to build a sustainable,
Speaker 12: successful franchise.
Speaker 2: Let me look at a couple of resumes here before
Speaker 2: I let you go. If I said Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, who are Hall of famers right now?
Speaker 12: And I saw the tweet earlier in the week from
Speaker 12: the guy at ESPN who goes by hembo that McCarthy
Speaker 12: needs a better publicist because McCarthy has a better track record.
Speaker 7: Than Peyton and Tomlin.
Speaker 12: When you look at some of the big picture things,
Speaker 12: I think that Tomlin right now, given the eighteen years
Speaker 12: in Pittsburgh, give that it's the Steelers, two super Bowl appearances,
Speaker 12: consistent contender, never had a losing season. I think Tomlin
Speaker 12: is the guy who walks right in. But you know
Speaker 12: Peyton and MacArthur are gonna have strong cases. But then
Speaker 12: there's a log jam. There's plenty of coaches who deserve
Speaker 12: to be in who haven't gotten in, and they always
Speaker 12: change the rules a little bit, and you never quite
Speaker 12: know what the standard is or what the process is,
Speaker 12: or whether coaches are competing with other players, are competing
Speaker 12: with owners, or.
Speaker 7: They have their own lane.
Speaker 12: It's hard for guys who deserve to be in to
Speaker 12: get in, like a Mike Holmgren and a Mike Shanahan.
Speaker 12: So the coaches of today are going to be caught
Speaker 12: behind that.
Speaker 7: But I think Tomlin is the one.
Speaker 12: Eighteen years, no losing seasons, two super Bowl appearances, playoff appearances.
Speaker 12: I think Tomlin is the one of the three that's
Speaker 12: the most likely to get in.
Speaker 2: Safe travels to Philadelphia. Play nice there, Mike, Well, I'm not.
Speaker 12: The one that needs to be told to play nice.
Speaker 12: I gotta worry about the fans. Rodney Harrison's gonna throw
Speaker 12: snowballs at me. It's going to be a challenging day.
Speaker 7: I might wear a helmet.
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Speaker 2: on our way home, we'll take a break, Jason Garrett said,
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Speaker 2: a moment. As we catch up with Jason Garrett and
Speaker 2: NBC Football Night in America, will be on the road
Speaker 2: Sunday at two eastern in Philadelphia. It'll be the divisional
Speaker 2: game between the Rams and Eagles. Kickoff will be at
Speaker 2: three eastern on NBC and Peacock. By the way, Jason,
Speaker 2: this summer was a busy guy. He was working with
Speaker 2: NFL Films and in May he was with Troy Aikman
Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott. He then traveled to San Diego he
Speaker 2: was with Drew Brees, North Turner, and then the legendary
Speaker 2: quarterback coach Tom Howell went to Phoenix he worked with
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner. He also was there for Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 2: in Buffalo with Josh out So what was he doing
Speaker 2: with all of these great offensive minds, all of these quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and what he did is available on YouTube. Jason joins us, now,
Speaker 2: so give us his synopsis of what you were trying
Speaker 2: to accomplish or did accomplish with your summer project here.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, a couple of years ago, I was
Speaker 11: up in training camp visiting the Packers and Matt Lafour
Speaker 11: was great. I spent the whole day with him at
Speaker 11: seven meetings and at the end of the day we're
Speaker 11: finishing out the quarterback meeting. And you know, I used
Speaker 11: to always tell our players in Dallas that if you
Speaker 11: get a chance to be around greatness, don't ask guys
Speaker 11: about their house or their car or their boat, right
Speaker 11: ask him about why they're great. And so I'm sitting
Speaker 11: next to Aaron Rodgers and I said, I'm going to
Speaker 11: take my own advice here. And I just turned to
Speaker 11: him and said, hey, just before I leave, just give
Speaker 11: me one thought. I'm throwing one of the best throwers
Speaker 11: of his generation, one of the best of all time.
Speaker 9: And I've known him for a long time.
Speaker 11: My first year coaching was in Miami for Nick Saban
Speaker 11: and it was two thousand and five, the year that
Speaker 11: Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers were coming out.
Speaker 9: We had the second pick of the draft.
Speaker 11: So spent a lot of time with him then, and
Speaker 11: coached him in the Pro Bowl and competed against him.
Speaker 9: And he's always been very generous with me.
Speaker 11: And so he jumps up out of the seat and
Speaker 11: he says, all I think about when I throw is
Speaker 11: getting the way to the inside of my left ankle,
Speaker 11: the inside of my left half, and the inside of
Speaker 11: my left knee. And I'm like, like, what are you
Speaker 11: talking about? I've never heard anybody talk about that, and
Speaker 11: so it struck me. I'm flying home that night and
Speaker 11: I had a throwing sequence.
Speaker 9: Of Joe Namath on my wall when I was growing up.
Speaker 11: It was eight throws from his book The Classic A
Speaker 11: Matter of Style. I don't know if you remember that,
Speaker 11: but it was just incredible, and so I had this
Speaker 11: image of name it in my mind.
Speaker 9: But bup bup, bup, up up up buck talking about throwing.
Speaker 11: That's how I that's how I envision the perfect throwing motion.
Speaker 11: And here's Aaron Rodgers fifty years later talking about the
Speaker 11: inside of his left ankle, like, what are we talking
Speaker 11: about here?
Speaker 9: So it struck me that the best thrower then throw
Speaker 9: it one way.
Speaker 11: The best thrower now throws it another way, and the
Speaker 11: evolution of the throwing.
Speaker 9: Motion it's different.
Speaker 11: And so I asked a few people about it, and
Speaker 11: they kind of agreed with me, and I said, I
Speaker 11: want to talk to the principal guys.
Speaker 9: I want to talk to the guys who are actually
Speaker 9: throwing the ball.
Speaker 11: And so I got with Troy and Dak and then
Speaker 11: they kind of grew to a chance to talk to
Speaker 11: Drew Brees and Tom House and norv and everybody from there,
Speaker 11: and eventually would talk to Aaron and Josh Allen And
Speaker 11: what we found out is it has evolved that the
Speaker 11: great throwers back then could really throw the ball. You
Speaker 11: go back and look at the tape of Joe Namath
Speaker 11: and Terry Bradshaw and those guys. They could throw the
Speaker 11: heck out of the ball, Marino, Elway, Aikman, all these guys.
Speaker 11: But they threw it differently than the guys are throwing
Speaker 11: it today. And we did an examination of it. We
Speaker 11: did it with NFL films, and NFL films, as we
Speaker 11: all know, is one of the great entities of all times.
Speaker 9: So it was a really fun project to do.
Speaker 2: But also this is the evolution of the golf swing.
Speaker 2: They're hitting it further, they're using the ground getting kind
Speaker 2: of leveraged with that. With baseball, we're seeing pictures throw
Speaker 2: you know, more pictures throwing faster than ever can can.
Speaker 2: Are these quarterbacks throwing the ball faster?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that is that important? Or is it the quickness
Speaker 2: of the release that's more important.
Speaker 9: Well, one thing that.
Speaker 11: You know, part of this project is we're going to
Speaker 11: try to go deeper on this. It was a twenty
Speaker 11: two minute segment NFL Films Presents and one of my
Speaker 11: pangs when we finished it was we probably use less
Speaker 11: than a one percent of the content for each of
Speaker 11: the guys. Troy Aikman talked about it for over an hour,
Speaker 11: Drew Brees hour and a half. I mean, we had
Speaker 11: so much great stuff and you have to try to
Speaker 11: fit it into this into this little window.
Speaker 9: So I think you can go a lot deeper on
Speaker 9: all this.
Speaker 11: And one of the great takeaways is all these rotational
Speaker 11: athletes do things with the same principles of physics. And
Speaker 11: you said it, it's ground force, it's rotation, it's lag.
Speaker 9: You know this concept of.
Speaker 11: Lag where you're opening your hips and you're keeping your
Speaker 11: upper body clothsed and you're kind of cork screwing and
Speaker 11: then it all whipping together. That's not something we talked
Speaker 11: a ton about when I was growing up throwing a football.
Speaker 11: It was more about show the rotation. It's all coming together,
Speaker 11: and so I think these guys are more into that.
Speaker 11: And a big part of this is the game has changed.
Speaker 11: When you think about name It. We go back and
Speaker 11: we see these pictures of name It. He's literally taking
Speaker 11: a thirteen step drop. He's fifteen yards behind the line
Speaker 11: of scrimmage, rifling these balls down the field. And you know,
Speaker 11: some people say name when I completed fifty percent of
Speaker 11: his pass as he threw more interceptions than touchdowns.
Speaker 9: Well, the game was completely different back then.
Speaker 11: Bubble screens and rocket screens and get it out of
Speaker 11: your hand and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 9: That's not what the game was.
Speaker 11: So these guys were bigger, stronger, like rifling it down
Speaker 11: the field. Now it's more like shortstop to second base.
Speaker 11: We're getting the ball out of our hand a lot.
Speaker 11: So how do you generate power with using ground force
Speaker 11: and rotation and have these quicker, little Derek Jeter type
Speaker 11: throws in the middle of the infield. I think the
Speaker 11: game has become a lot of that, and these guys
Speaker 11: are awfully good at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's available on YouTube. It's nerdtastic, like you'll nerd
Speaker 2: out if you're into this stuff. And Jason sent it
Speaker 2: to me and I'm like, this is great. You did
Speaker 2: a great job. Jason will be in Philadelphia. It's the
Speaker 2: Rams and the Eagles coming up on Sunday. There's always
Speaker 2: a surprise divisional round weekend. Give me this surprise.
Speaker 9: I don't think there's a surprise this weekend. I really don't.
Speaker 11: I think Kansas City wins as great as Houston was
Speaker 11: last week. You know, we had the show on Sunday night,
Speaker 11: and we had these gigantic pictures of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 11: and Travis Kelsey behind us, and I just turned around
Speaker 11: and said, first ballot, first ballot, first ballot.
Speaker 9: And they're playing at home.
Speaker 11: I think it's hard for Houston, as great as they
Speaker 11: played last week, to go up there and beat them.
Speaker 9: I really do. I think it'll be.
Speaker 11: Hard for Washington to go into Detroit to win as
Speaker 11: great as Jayden Daniels was last week. I think it's
Speaker 11: gonna be hard for the Rams to go to Philly
Speaker 11: and win. And then the one that I think everybody's
Speaker 11: waiting for is Josh against Lamar, and I think that's
Speaker 11: a pick him anyway. So I don't see any big surprises.
Speaker 11: I think we's have four great games.
Speaker 2: You got to take Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson? Who
Speaker 2: you taking?
Speaker 11: Every time I'm on this show, you're asking me these
Speaker 11: kinds of questions. Gun to my head, I'd take Josh Allen,
Speaker 11: but I think Lamar Jackson is one of the most
Speaker 11: amazing players I've ever seen.
Speaker 9: In my life, so it's hard for me to argue
Speaker 9: against him.
Speaker 11: Two time MVP, he'll probably be a third MVP, and
Speaker 11: he's revolutionized the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: But well, I thought Josh Allen was the MVP this year,
Speaker 2: even Lamar had the stats. Last year, Josh had the stats,
Speaker 2: didn't win. So I like, it's a fluid philosophy or
Speaker 2: criteria for voting for MVP, and I think that's where
Speaker 2: I go. Okay, I didn't expect Buffalo to be this good. Now,
Speaker 2: granted they were in a bad division, but I looked
Speaker 2: at them as an underdog, and I thought I'd actually
Speaker 2: seen Josh Allen become a great quarterback this year where
Speaker 2: he didn't force it, he didn't put on the Superman
Speaker 2: cape as much as he likes to, and it felt
Speaker 2: like that was a true team effort. So MVP for
Speaker 2: a team, I would give it to him. I thought,
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is a great security blanket. Now, I did
Speaker 2: have somebody, a coach who said the following, you keep
Speaker 2: talking about how you know Derrick Henry helped Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Did you ever think Lamar Jackson helped out Derrick Henry
Speaker 2: as well, because what he was in Tennessee, anybody could
Speaker 2: have had him. Nobody wanted him. They take him and
Speaker 2: he rushes for nearly two thousand yards. So a long
Speaker 2: winded way of saying, I would take Josh. There's no
Speaker 2: wrong answer in this.
Speaker 9: Yeah. The trickiest thing for me is I was fortunate
Speaker 9: to be.
Speaker 11: On those great teams with the Cowboys in the nineties,
Speaker 11: and one of the things I learned was everyone benefited
Speaker 11: from each other. Troy Aikman made Emitt Smith better. Emma
Speaker 11: Smith made Troy Aikman better. Emmitt Smith made the receivers better.
Speaker 11: The line made Emmitt better. Emmitt made the line better.
Speaker 11: They made the defense better, the defense.
Speaker 9: You know. And so that's when when you're a great team,
Speaker 9: that's what happens. And sometimes you.
Speaker 11: Say each of the guys, their candidacy for something like
Speaker 11: MVP gets diminished because hey, he's got Derrick Henry. Well, yeah,
Speaker 11: you know, and fair or unfair, but that's what teams are.
Speaker 11: You know, Magic and Kareem played together. You know, Burd
Speaker 11: McHale played together. I mean, Jordan and Pippin played together.
Speaker 11: I mean, if you want to be a great championship team,
Speaker 11: you have to have good players around you, and so
Speaker 11: I don't think we should diminish Lamar, but it certainly
Speaker 11: is an advantage for Lamar to have Big twenty two
Speaker 11: behind him.
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America, former Cowboys head coach,
Speaker 2: what advice would you give Dion Sanders about taking the
Speaker 2: Cowboys job if offered?
Speaker 11: If he wants to do it, he should take it.
Speaker 11: He's done an amazing job at Colorado. I think he's
Speaker 11: changing college football in some ways and he's impacting a
Speaker 11: ton of lives. But if he feels compelled to die,
Speaker 11: dive into it. Dive into it. He and Jerry have
Speaker 11: a long relationship and they need to know.
Speaker 2: Though Jason, about Jerry the owner, don the coach, that's
Speaker 2: different than that owner and that player. So this is different.
Speaker 2: This is day to day, week to week, game to game,
Speaker 2: and that's a whole different game.
Speaker 9: No doubt.
Speaker 11: But I but I bring that up just because that
Speaker 11: relationship matters. I think I think Dion knows Jerry, Jerry
Speaker 11: knows Dion, and I think they can have the kind
Speaker 11: of conversations you need to have between owner slash general
Speaker 11: manager and head coach. You got to be able to
Speaker 11: be honest and to direct with each other. And when
Speaker 11: you're the head coach in that situation, sometimes things don't
Speaker 11: go your way. Sometimes you want to do something and
Speaker 11: the owner in general manager wants to do something else.
Speaker 11: And that's part of the deal. Everybody's got a boss, right.
Speaker 11: So I do think they can be honest with each other.
Speaker 11: I don't think they'll be walking on eggshells around each other.
Speaker 11: I think they value their relationlationship, and I think they
Speaker 11: can be direct with each other.
Speaker 9: I think that benefits that situation.
Speaker 11: So my encouragement to him would be, tell Jerry what
Speaker 11: you think it might not go your way, tell him what.
Speaker 9: You think he needs to know.
Speaker 11: What you think about this player, this coach, this philosophy,
Speaker 11: what we're doing on offense, defense, And then if it
Speaker 11: becomes something where you have to get into it you
Speaker 11: have a disagreement, hopefully you can rely on that relationship.
Speaker 9: You've had to work your way through it, and I
Speaker 9: think that's an important thing.
Speaker 2: Just feels like they're two CEOs though, Jason.
Speaker 11: Well, if you think about the what the position of
Speaker 11: head coach is, there's a lot of great coordinators on
Speaker 11: offense and defense who go become head coaches and they're
Speaker 11: not real good at it because maybe they don't fully
Speaker 11: understand that being a head coach is a leadership position
Speaker 11: first and foremost, and there has to be layers of
Speaker 11: leadership in an organization. It's multi tiered leadership, so it's
Speaker 11: owner and general manager, but then it's head coach, and
Speaker 11: then it's coordinators, it's quarterback.
Speaker 9: All of that.
Speaker 11: So I don't know that because both of them have
Speaker 11: leaderships CEO type skills, I don't know that it has
Speaker 11: to be combative. It can be layered, and I think
Speaker 11: that's an important piece of this. Hopefully they don't step
Speaker 11: over each other, and hopefully the big CEO gives the
Speaker 11: next CEO a chance to put his imprint on the team,
Speaker 11: because I think that's an important part of it.
Speaker 2: But what was it like when Jerry's holding his own
Speaker 2: press conference?
Speaker 11: Sometimes it could be challenging because, as you know, media people.
Speaker 2: That's a fun word there, challenging.
Speaker 11: Media people love to find the wedge and so sometimes,
Speaker 11: you know, Jerry would say something and I think the
Speaker 11: people who were covering our team knew that probably that
Speaker 11: wasn't something that I agreed with and they say, hey,
Speaker 11: Jerry said this, what do you think about that?
Speaker 9: So you had to deal with that. But you know,
Speaker 9: it's it comes with the dinner.
Speaker 11: As Troy used to say, you just figure it out
Speaker 11: and you can't let you can't let those things detract
Speaker 11: from what you're trying to build. Sometimes you'd wish they
Speaker 11: weren't there. You didn't have to deal with those distractions.
Speaker 11: There's a lot of attention on that team anyway, so
Speaker 11: why we you know, and fuel to the fire. But
Speaker 11: you know, again, it's part of it and you'll work
Speaker 11: your way through it.
Speaker 2: I asked Tim Callishaw. If I said to Jerry Jones,
Speaker 2: you can't hold you can't have a radio show, can't
Speaker 2: do any interviews for the next five years, but you're
Speaker 2: I'm going to guarantee you as super Bowl. Would Jerry
Speaker 2: be able to go without being interviewed do his radio shows?
Speaker 2: If I said you're going to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9: Again? I just don't think. I just don't think he
Speaker 9: wants to give that up.
Speaker 11: Someone asked me the other day, you know, do you
Speaker 11: go in there and do you try to you try
Speaker 11: to change Jared Jones.
Speaker 9: I said, he's eighty two years old.
Speaker 11: You're not changing him. This is what he wants to do.
Speaker 11: He took a lot of risk in his life. He
Speaker 11: made a lot of money. He'll tell you the story
Speaker 11: about how he bought the Dallas Cowboys, a risky endeavor
Speaker 11: and with that risk comes a lot of reward and
Speaker 11: a lot of freedom. And part of it is he
Speaker 11: feels like he wants to be the lead voice of
Speaker 11: the organization.
Speaker 9: And I don't see him giving that up anytime.
Speaker 2: Soon, that's for sure. You'll find Jason Garrett this video.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to describe it, but it's
Speaker 2: on YouTube. And if you love sort of the evolution
Speaker 2: of the quarterback and throwing and hearing from all these
Speaker 2: Hall of famers, it's really great. It's nerdtastic, as I've
Speaker 2: come up with that word. And Jason will be on
Speaker 2: the road. It'll be football night in America in the
Speaker 2: afternoon on Sunday. They started two o'clock with the Rams
Speaker 2: and the Eagles. Save travels and thanks for joining.
Speaker 9: Us, Yeah, thanks, Dan. Always enjoy it.
Speaker 2: That Jason Garrett. There's always one of those questions I
Speaker 2: have to ask Jason where he goes. You always do
Speaker 2: this to me every time I come on. YEP, and
Speaker 2: if I was on Football Night in America still I
Speaker 2: would do that too. For a national TV audience, yes, Paul.
Speaker 3: But so many people speculate on coaching the Cowboys and
Speaker 3: what it's like day to day. This guy for a
Speaker 3: long time, did it? I mean it's I can't imagine
Speaker 3: the juggle of when you go to the podium and
Speaker 3: the owner is just spoken.
Speaker 2: You don't know what he says, like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: what does he do?
Speaker 11: What did