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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Jetty

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Speaker 1: and He Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 2: The pizza chain Papa John's has announced it will offer

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Speaker 2: a limited edition garlic dipping sauce bath Bomb. It's the

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Speaker 2: perfect thing to put in your bath if you're working

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Speaker 2: your way up to toaster.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. Welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 3: Joe is off today. We've got a friend who we

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Speaker 3: have a guest regularly. He thinks Joe and I should

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Speaker 3: alternate Fridays off because he likes the different feel of

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Speaker 3: the show when one.

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Speaker 1: Of us hosts.

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Speaker 3: And he says that way we could each get a

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Speaker 3: three day week every other week, and then the audience

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Speaker 3: would get the unique version of one of us being

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think most of you'd probably rather

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Speaker 1: we're both here all the time.

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Speaker 3: But Joe is off because it's his big birthday week

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Speaker 3: and he's taken a day off.

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Speaker 1: And I had another point to make about that, but

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we got a text yesterday saying, if you're having

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Speaker 3: trouble telling which one is which Jack is the dumb one.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's handy. That'll speed things up for you.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to welcome to the Armstrong and Getty show.

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Speaker 3: Tim the Lawyer. It's Tim Sanderfer. He's the vice president

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Speaker 3: of Legal Affairs at the Goldwater Institute. He's an adjunk

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Speaker 3: scholar with the Cato Institute. Tim, what is an ad

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Speaker 3: junk scholar.

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Speaker 4: It means that I get my picture on their website,

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Speaker 4: but I don't get any money from them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a cool name.

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Speaker 4: Now, now the idea of you of doing Fridays alternating,

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Speaker 4: I don't like this idea. It's like Laurel without Hardy.

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Speaker 4: It would be like Penn without Teller. It would be

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Speaker 4: like Salt without Peppa. I don't think it works.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, so quickly before we get to a couple of

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Speaker 3: other things to talk about it, I wanted to I assume,

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Speaker 3: since you tweeted it out, you're willing to go on

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Speaker 3: the record with this, because you've put it out there

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Speaker 3: into the world. You tweeted Playboy Magazine is back. I

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Speaker 3: do hope it succeeds the anti sex, anti intellectual culture

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Speaker 3: of the past decade has got to be overturned.

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Speaker 1: Thought that was an interesting take from you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as our culture has decayed over the last several decades,

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Speaker 3: Playboy magazine seems at a very high level of culture

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Speaker 3: in our biocurrent standards.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, what's happened? What I mean by the anti

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Speaker 4: sex culture is things like the glorification of ugliness and

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Speaker 4: the hatred of beauty, which has become such a pervasive tone,

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Speaker 4: especially on the left, but also on the right. This

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Speaker 4: idea of elevating ugliness and pretending that it's beautiful, while

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Speaker 4: at the same time denigrating things that actually are beautiful.

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Speaker 4: And you find this in things like the locust attitude

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Speaker 4: towards you know, the so called male gaze, and how

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Speaker 4: we're all supposed to be ashamed of you, beautiful Victoria's

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Speaker 4: secret models. We can't have that, you know anymore. We

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Speaker 4: have to cancel those kinds of shows. And this is

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Speaker 4: all rooted in the same philosophy that motivates the bad

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Speaker 4: politics of today, which is this idea that equality is

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Speaker 4: the same thing as justice, that equal outcomes is what

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Speaker 4: justice demands. That's a perverse and false notion, because of course,

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Speaker 4: there are no equal outcomes in all of the world.

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Speaker 4: And therefore, if that's what you think justice requires, then

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Speaker 4: you are perpetually at war with nature and you have

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Speaker 4: to break down everything that is great in order to

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Speaker 4: And that's been what's motivated everything from You remember a

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Speaker 4: few years ago Playboy, before it went out of publication,

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Speaker 4: they stop running nude photos. We're playing along with this

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Speaker 4: woke attitude that we're the male gaze is a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: And if we're returning to a culture that celebrates beauty,

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Speaker 4: including female beauty, I see that as a healthy development.

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Speaker 3: And from the anti intellectual part of it, Playboy magazine

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Speaker 3: people used to always joke about it. I get Playboy

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Speaker 3: magazine for the articles, hahaha. No, I actually did look

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Speaker 3: at Boy. He can find naked girls lots of places.

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Speaker 3: But they had great short stories and interviews and think

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Speaker 3: for Playboy, but just in general we need more of that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely great writers and great thinkers and people I usually

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Speaker 4: Buckley wrote for Playboy Magazine for Crying Out Loud that

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Speaker 4: this is the I think this is a step. I

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Speaker 4: hope it's a step toward adults coming back and actually

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Speaker 3: I don't like our chances, Tim, but anyway, thanks for

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Speaker 3: the hope. I'm looking at the headline Goldwater Institute where

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Speaker 3: you actually do get paid. Does the Arizona Constitution allow

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Speaker 3: juryleist trial by bureaucrats? It says here you're suing over

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Speaker 3: DEI and doctor nation requirements for professors.

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Speaker 1: Also, what is that all about?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, we're doing the case we filed some

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Speaker 4: months ago against Arizona State University for illegally requiring their

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Speaker 4: employees to undergo these you know, cultural sensitivity its DEI

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Speaker 4: whatever they call it, training programs that tell you that

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Speaker 4: white people should be ashamed for the historical oppressions of

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Speaker 4: the past, and that you know, to say nothing against

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Speaker 4: racism is complicity and all these sorts of these leftist

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Speaker 4: indoctrination is actually illegal in Arizona. Some years ago, we

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Speaker 4: government from requiring employees to engage in training that is

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Speaker 4: based on what the law calls race based blame or judgment,

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Speaker 4: and that is any training that says that you should

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Speaker 4: feel bad because of what other people of your race

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Speaker 4: have done in the past. And yet that is what

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Speaker 4: ASU requires and other employees. And so we've gone to

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Speaker 4: and we're suing over that, and we've won a preliminary

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Speaker 3: We well, speaking of having you know, higher level intellectual discussions,

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Speaker 3: the whole DEI thing has gotten uh, well, I should

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Speaker 3: stop being on Twitter because you know, it gives me

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Speaker 3: a negative view of the world and how and how

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Speaker 3: and how things can get watered down into where everything

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Speaker 3: is called DEI. But DEI in its worst form, we'll

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Speaker 3: explain what DEI looks like in its worst form.

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Speaker 4: Well, in its worst form, DEI says that what has

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Speaker 4: made America great, to use the words of the sixteen

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Speaker 4: and the oppression of minorities. That the whole idea of

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Speaker 4: the American dream is a lie, and that every great

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Speaker 4: advancement that Western civilization has made has been at the

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Speaker 4: expense of the exploitation of the huddled masses of who

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Speaker 4: have suffered under the evils of capitalism. It's just ordinary

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Speaker 4: wearing wearing tight jeans instead. It's and the problem with

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Speaker 4: it is that America is the only country that has

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Speaker 4: by the government. Freedom allows people to rise. It has

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Speaker 4: always allowed people to rise. And we destroy something and

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Speaker 4: do something really damaging to the greatness of America if

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Speaker 4: we downplay that or act like it's a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, higher education in this country is totally oriented

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Speaker 4: toward teaching young Americans that patriotism is a lie, that

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Speaker 4: believing in the Declaration of Independence is foolhardy, that the

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Speaker 4: America is founded as a pro slavery nation, and that

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Speaker 4: white supremacy, to quote Tana Hessekoats, the darling of the Left,

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Speaker 4: the white supremacy is at the heart of American culture

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Speaker 4: to this day, none of which is true. And yet

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Speaker 4: impressionable minds are taught this, and professors are forced to

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Speaker 4: undergo indoctrination in this idea, so that people graduate from

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Speaker 4: And it's not only is that a travesty, but the

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Speaker 4: Goldwater Institute has published a report just recently showing that

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Speaker 4: about two billion dollars a year are spent in higher

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Speaker 4: education in this country on classes that teach this nonsense.

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Speaker 4: Two billion dollars a year. Now, keep in mind that

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Speaker 4: does not count the amount of this nonsense that smuggled

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Speaker 4: into other classes. That's just counting classes devoted to teaching

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Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up, because I

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Speaker 3: was about to interject that I met Harold Bloom before

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Speaker 3: he died. He was like the great Shakespeare expert from Yah.

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing him on Charlie Rose and him complaining

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Speaker 1: And this was ten years ago, twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: That didn't run all the Shakespeare plays through some sort

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Speaker 4: The literature, or or just take take your average let's

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Speaker 4: That's what that student will know about Thomas Jeverson. He

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Speaker 4: and that's about it, you know, And that's a disgrace.

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Speaker 4: What it's not only a disgrace just for normal patriotic

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Speaker 4: a fundamental lie, the idea that America is at heart

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Speaker 4: back to what we're talking about before, this basic notion

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Speaker 4: that equal outcomes is what justice requires, when that is

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Speaker 4: very frequently unjust to impose equal outcomes when people deserve

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Speaker 3: How many years have you been calling into the armstrong

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Speaker 4: Do you know, Oh, it's been I think twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say it's at least that And I was

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Speaker 3: going to make the point that you were quite a

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Speaker 4: Old and gray and grizzled, right, grown, not only gray

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Speaker 4: but almost blind in the service of my friends. But

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Speaker 4: the problem out there, you kids out there who don't

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Speaker 4: know what that means. That's a sly reference to George Washington.

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Speaker 4: He was the first president look it up.

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Speaker 1: Which, yes, And the reason I brought that up was.

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Speaker 3: My concern that this stuff has been in the schools

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Speaker 3: K through twelve and then onto college for so long

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Speaker 3: we may have already lost the battle. The people that

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Speaker 3: only thing they knew about Thomas Jefferson was he, you know,

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Speaker 3: fathered children with a slave girl. I mean, they're going

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Speaker 3: to take over soon and won't be dead.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yes, absolutely. In fact, one of another project that

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Speaker 4: we're working on at the Institute here is we're talking

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Speaker 4: about the influence of the communist writer Howard Zinn on

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Speaker 4: American history classes across the nation. We've published a report

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Speaker 4: of teachers, right, your high school teachers who themselves never

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Speaker 4: were also spoonfed. I mean you're talking about since at

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Speaker 1: Hetty, I'm so danced to this one a few times.

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Speaker 3: My son's got a Valentine's Day dance at the high

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Speaker 4: Oh? It was the most amazing thing. These are truly autonomous,

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Speaker 4: it's a terrible thing and it should be abolished.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's so frustrating as a guy with the kids

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Speaker 3: You're you're just so damned interesting. Whether I agree with

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Speaker 4: Thanks much, Jack, I'd love to do it again.

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Speaker 3: Jim Sanderfer And if you if you don't follow his

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Speaker 3: just really really it's it's my life is actually better

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's it's handy having smart friends when you're

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Speaker 1: I'm a dullard. You can look it up.

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Speaker 3: There's dullard, there's imbecile, moron. These are actually different categories

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Speaker 2: The fast food chained Shake Shack is offering buy one,

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Speaker 3: So we had one text or say Valentine's Day or

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Speaker 3: And then I brought up the idea that and Katie

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Speaker 3: Go back to Hallmark or whoever made these Valentine's Day

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Speaker 3: How terrible is that? I know? I can't believe that

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Speaker 1: The big difference is you willingly get on a dating app.

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Speaker 3: You're not forced into it, and you're not nine right,

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Speaker 3: Less cute couple of things. And I'm gonna get to

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Speaker 1: That came out on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I can't wait. I saw this meme Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 3: So I was talking to a therapist about this the

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Speaker 3: a story about a presidential election.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like in nineteen oh four or

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Speaker 1: something like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the big issues was, see with that

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Speaker 3: party in charge, we've doubled the divorce rate in this country,

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Speaker 3: almost doubled it from one and a half percent to

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Speaker 3: three percent. That's how low the divorce rate was in

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Speaker 3: the early nineteen hundreds. You met somebody, you got together,

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Speaker 3: and you stayed married no matter what. Now, not getting

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Speaker 3: into the debate over whether that's good or bad, just

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Speaker 3: what it would mean is you are not going to

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Speaker 3: go through Like I just I'm almost four years out

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Speaker 3: from when my wife told me she wanted a divorce.

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Speaker 1: It's still brutal. I mean, so people didn't have.

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Speaker 3: That emotional trauma of divorce, and now in the modern world,

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Speaker 3: with more divorce more so, you just have more relationships.

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Speaker 1: Period, more heartbreak.

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Speaker 3: We might not be designed psychologically for three to eight

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Speaker 3: times falling in love or twelve times of falling in

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Speaker 3: love in your life where it turns out badly.

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Speaker 1: We're not designed for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of childhood crushes that go aside, but

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Speaker 3: then one big love. You stay married, and that's it

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Speaker 3: for the rest of your life, not over and over again.

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Speaker 3: All the chemicals and emotions that come with fallen in

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Speaker 3: love and the investment and this and that, and then

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Speaker 3: you get rejected.

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Speaker 1: We're not built for that. Evolution didn't account for that.

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Speaker 5: I have a friend that I grew up around, and

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Speaker 5: she fell in love a few times, and she really

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Speaker 5: fell in love back in two thousand and nine, was

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Speaker 5: with this guy. They broke up in twenty ten. She

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Speaker 5: has still not recovered.

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Speaker 3: I well, I don't think I guarantee you. Evolutionary we

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Speaker 3: are not designed to deal with that because human being's

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Speaker 3: never dealt with that before.

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Speaker 1: You just didn't. Yeah, So a therapist was telling me

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Speaker 1: the other day.

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Speaker 3: People are who are like all my close friends have

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Speaker 3: been married for like thirty five years, Joe, and all

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Speaker 3: my early roommates for college, they've all been married for

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Speaker 3: But if you're not one of those people, you've had

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of just soul crushing defeats out there.

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Speaker 3: And so the idea being anybody who is not. You know,

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Speaker 3: if you're of a certain age and you're still singer,

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Speaker 3: you are by definition damaged.

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Speaker 1: You're just damaged. Everybody is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any getting around it, like I said,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think our psychees are built for this

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Speaker 3: and I don't and that hasn't been accounted for in

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Speaker 3: our culture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it varies state to state, but

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Speaker 5: I do know that getting a divorce in the state

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Speaker 5: of California is a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's a Neil Young song when when he got divorced

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Speaker 3: and he mentions, now we're going through the big divorce

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Speaker 3: California style because it is a completely different thing. But again,

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Speaker 3: don't want to get up on that topic. Right, So

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day is different, you know, if you've been married

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Speaker 3: for thirty years and you got together in your twenties

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Speaker 3: than it is if you're out there in single and

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Speaker 3: you've had soul crushing defeat you know, a dozen times

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Speaker 3: in your life.

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Speaker 5: So hey, here's love day, you know, here's relationship day,

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Speaker 5: and then chocolates and flowers and stuffed animals that collect dust.

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Speaker 1: Good times and which side of that you're on out there? Right?

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Speaker 5: Well, it is so unnecessary. This honestly, this quote unque

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Speaker 5: about holiday. It upsets me because it hurts more people

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Speaker 5: than it does anything else.

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Speaker 3: Good question, does Valentine's Day make more people happy or

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Speaker 3: more people unhappy?

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Speaker 1: I would be shocked if it's not the latter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: same here, shocked.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this why orgasms are good for your health.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this fits in. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if this fits in with Valentine's Day at all. If

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Speaker 3: this is on your menu, it's not on mine. According

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Speaker 3: to this, more than a quarter of men struggle to

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Speaker 3: reach this, and fifteen percent of women have never had one.

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Speaker 3: I believe that really. Okay, so you talk to girls

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Speaker 3: and friends. Fifteen percent of women have never had one. Well,

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Speaker 3: you could understand why they might not be super interested

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Speaker 3: in sex very often, because what's the payoff. It's the

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Speaker 3: same reason I don't do that claw machine at the fairy.

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Speaker 3: You do it a couple of times, you never grab

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Speaker 3: a prize, it's not enjoyable, you don't put you don't

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Speaker 3: try it again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Mike like that. Yeah, it's exactly like the climb machine, Jack.

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Speaker 3: You've tried it a couple of times, no payoff, not

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Speaker 3: doing that again.

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Speaker 1: You see another one and you're like, oh, screw that.

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Speaker 3: You know the point of this article is how it's

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Speaker 3: good for releasing emotional tension or something this or that,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if that's true or not. I

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Speaker 3: just thought it was interesting. Fifteen percent of women have

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Speaker 3: never had one, and you think that that sounds right? Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I believe that that's rough.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's rough out here. You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know where to take that.

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Speaker 3: That's unimaginable as a guy. I mean, yeah, it really

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Speaker 3: takes practically nothing. Well, oh, I don't know. We can't

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Speaker 3: go any further down this road. Hr is standing and

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Speaker 3: looking in the window right now. Yes, exactly, so we

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Speaker 3: won't go there further saying yes, Michael, I already have

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Speaker 3: to go to church.

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Speaker 1: I lost the red paint off first.

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Speaker 3: Got some doge stuff to tell you about. Haven't mentioned

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Speaker 3: for a while.

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Speaker 1: JD.

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Speaker 3: Vance's interview with The Wall Street Journal actually said, US

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Speaker 3: troops on the ground in Ukraine on the table.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard that? Stay tuned.

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Speaker 6: Elon. You can't just call anything you want waste and

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Speaker 6: just get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that.

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Speaker 6: Like in the Department of Defense, we do like lots

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Speaker 6: and lots of online training every year. That's totally not

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Speaker 6: a waste of time and teaches us great skills that

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Speaker 6: we use every day. And you should not use doage

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Speaker 6: to eliminate that. You don't. Please don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Please think that's some pretty good sarcasm. So there are

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Speaker 3: headlines out there thousands and thousands of people in the

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Speaker 3: federal government in the last twenty four hours have found

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Speaker 3: out that they're losing their jobs, many thousands, and what

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Speaker 3: the total number is gonna end up being. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how many of them will stick. I don't know

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Speaker 3: a lot of the firings y're not technically firings because

567
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Speaker 3: almost everybody involved so far, you get a one year

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Speaker 3: two year probationary period of something before you get the

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Speaker 3: full civil servant protection laws that we have in this country.

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Speaker 3: For some flip and reason, I don't know why, after

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Speaker 3: you've been in a job for two years you're basically unfireable.

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Speaker 3: In some cases, you like short of murder, are unfireable.

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Speaker 3: Why do we allow this to happen? I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: A text I read earlier about somebody was talking about

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Speaker 3: the tech sector in the Silicon Valley area. Remember on

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Speaker 3: Facebook fired whatever was twenty thousand people and Intel laid

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Speaker 3: off tens of thousands of people, and Elon came out

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Speaker 3: to run Twitter efficiently and fired.

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Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of people.

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Speaker 3: Lots of people lose their jobs all the time for

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Speaker 3: all kinds of different reasons, and the idea that the

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Speaker 3: federal government has put in protections that you can't is nuts.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I was quoting somebody.

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Speaker 3: I'll be very vague because I want to get in trouble,

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Speaker 3: but they work in the federal government and their boss

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Speaker 3: was very sad last night that he had gotten the

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Speaker 3: nod that he had to let six people go. And

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Speaker 3: this person had never really worked in the private sector.

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Speaker 3: So it's just horrified that the boss had to get

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Speaker 3: rid of some people, saying, these people moved here for

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Speaker 3: this job, and now I have to tell them with

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Speaker 3: one day's notice that they're being fired. Yeah, happens in

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Speaker 3: the private sector all the time. It's just life, and

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Speaker 3: everybody knows it. And I'm trying not to have this

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Speaker 3: about revenge against government workers or whatever for those of

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Speaker 3: us who live in the private sector.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is another thing. If you have.

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Speaker 3: An unfireable position, which is many many government jobs, do

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Speaker 3: you realize that the rest of us think about getting

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Speaker 3: fired every day, every day of our lives. We wonder

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Speaker 3: if today's the day. If the boss walks by and says, hey,

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Speaker 3: can I come by my office a little later, you're

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Speaker 3: certain you're getting fired every time without a doubt. So

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Speaker 3: imagine what it's like to have a government job where

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Speaker 3: you know that's not on their mind, and you'll go

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Speaker 3: see the boss if he wants or not, if he

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to know what differences to make or she.

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Speaker 1: The rest of us were worried about it all the time.

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Speaker 3: That's just part of life, and you get used to

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Speaker 3: it and you just accept it as the human condition.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Here's David Axelrod regular on CNN, Obama's campaign manager, talking

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Speaker 3: about how awful this is.

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Speaker 7: I think government can be more efficient, Every bureaucracy can

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Speaker 7: be challenged and refined. But you can't send people in

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Speaker 7: overnight and assess large organizations and say you're worth something.

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Speaker 7: You're not worth something. This whole organization isn't worth something.

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Speaker 7: And the message that's being sent here is very, very discouraging,

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Speaker 7: deta grading and completely unfair of the people who you're

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Speaker 7: leaving out in the middle of nowhere in the no

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Speaker 7: man's land, and so yeah, I think one of the

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Speaker 7: lasting pieces of damage that I am worried about is

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Speaker 7: that it will send the message, particularly to younger people,

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Speaker 7: that public service somehow is not worth pursuing.

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Speaker 3: First of all, if you're a long time listening, you

626
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Speaker 3: know how annoyed I am by the term public service.

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Speaker 3: I know lots of people that have gone into, for instance,

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Speaker 3: state work in California. Wasn't a single one of them

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Speaker 3: that did it for the public service. They did it

630
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Speaker 3: for the benefits and the fact that they couldn't get fired.

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Speaker 3: As funny as around some dude the other day who

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Speaker 3: had been out of work and he got a state job,

633
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Speaker 3: and he announced it in this little group are sitting

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Speaker 3: with and everybody's like, oh my god, nice job, patting

635
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Speaker 3: him on the back because everybody knows it's like winning

636
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Speaker 3: a lottery ticket. You got a state job, you can't

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Speaker 3: get fired. He's not doing it for public service. He's

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Speaker 3: doing it because it's a cush I get to work forever.

639
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Speaker 3: Thing did the public service That makes me annoying. Now

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Speaker 3: I know people. I have a relative that has a

641
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Speaker 3: I think it's a city job, actually city or county,

642
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: and it is definitely public service. They are someone that

643
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: could make more in the private sector. And it's a

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00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: rough job. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in public service who either aren't

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Speaker 3: working very hard or making a really good living one

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Speaker 3: way or another, coming out of government richer than when

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Speaker 3: they went in. But that aside, I wish I had

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Speaker 3: written down all those words that David Axelrod used there.

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Speaker 3: It's denigrating, it's depressing, it's jarring. It's again that happens

651
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Speaker 3: when you get fired at, for instance, a radio station two.

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Speaker 3: Somebody comes in and decides overnight, As he was just saying,

653
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Speaker 3: you can't just come in overnight and decide a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of people aren't needed. I've seen it happen a

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Speaker 3: hundred times in my life. I've always been in radio,

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Speaker 3: so I have to use radio station. I've seen it

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Speaker 3: and having radio stations one hundred times. New boss comes

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Speaker 3: and some really good people end up getting thrown out

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Speaker 3: So why why would we design a system Why if

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Speaker 3: live by any of the rules that the rest of

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Speaker 3: stop ranting about That drives me nuts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just, you know, that's something that so many

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's why it strikes those of us in

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Speaker 3: the private sector is so incredible, because you do think

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Speaker 3: about it every day of your life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there are probably people getting fired today, Sure, Jod,

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Speaker 5: they've been working at forever.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are, and in some cases doing a

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Speaker 3: really really good job, and for no good reason whatsoever,

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Speaker 3: you're out of work and you might have to move.

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Speaker 1: It happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do four hours of this hoot and nanny

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Speaker 3: every single day. If you don't get all of them,

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Speaker 3: you can grab a segment or an hour, and there's

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Speaker 3: been some really good ones today. You gotta hear the

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day story. You gotta have the hear the Mike

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Speaker 3: Lyons interview about JD Vance and JD Vance saying we

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Speaker 3: might send troops to Ukraine. Wow, all that in earlier segments.

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Speaker 3: You can find our podcast It's Armstrong in Getty on demand.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff coming up in our four by the

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Speaker 1: Way, Armstrong and Getty