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Yes, there's the holidays on the 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: normal calendar, and then there's the NFL Draft for NFL 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: freaky fans that just love it the best time of year. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: And we continue on defending the kingdom looking at the 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: draft with in Veach's Guys We Trust and of course 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: it's brought to you by Ticketmaster, who you can have 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: your best friends all year long. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Let's keep it on an. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: RPO at the FUD it's a lead plot. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: He goes out of the ends on their side, touchdown Chunzas. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: City, however you want. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm Mitchell's voice of the Chiefs along with senior team 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: reporter Matt McMullen, and the T shirts were very popular. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: I think I still have mine somewhere. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: In Beach We Trust and even ward around town a 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: little bit and people are like, yeah, that's pretty cool. 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: But in this episode we're going to go with in 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Veach's Guys We Trust and we will feature a senior 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: director UH Senior director player personnel. Mike Bradway is a 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: special guest and it's just awesome to see the comprehensive 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: nature of Brett Veach's entire staff and how they work together. 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: It's not a coincidence. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: A Chiefs pretty much have been hitting a lot of 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: home runs or if not extra base hits in these. 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: Drafts, particularly late in the draft, and that's so hard 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: to do. It seems like an obvious thing that every 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: front office should be able to know who the best 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: players are going to be in round five, six and seven. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: But the truth is, the Chiefs put in extra work 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: on these guys. And it's not just the area of 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: scouts that are looking at them. It's Brett Veach and 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: Mike Bradway and the people at the very top of 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: the food chain, Coach Reid. They're watching guys that are 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: going to be drafted on Day three and maybe not 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: get drafted at all because they're putting in the extra hours, 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: the extra time just to make sure we get an 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: impact player late in the draft. And you see the 38 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: fruits of that when Isaiah Pacheco is the leading rusher 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: in a Super Bowl that you win, or you get 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: a guy like Jalen Watson who's picking off Trevor Lawrence 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: and causing incompletions against Joe Burrow, like these things happen 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: because of the work guys put in over the summer 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: during the season, even trying to find a few impact 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: players that maybe other teams are overlooking. We're so fortunate 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: we have these guys on our side. 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Coach Read, I just think if he wasn't coaching, would 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: be like the biggest draft nerd of all time. Oh yeah, 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: for sure, because he loves He just loves it like 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: he loves football. He loves colleges, every college. He loves 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: the game so much that yes, he would have like 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: the giant book and he would know the undrafted free 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: agent from I don't know Slippery Rock. 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: But he's what would Kelvin Sampson say during the Final 54 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: four said Sasquatch State or something. Yeah, yeah, he'll know that. 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: Coach, he would know it. So before we hear from 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Mike Bradway, what do you have for around the world? 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: Just three today, because we're we're in a hurry. This 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: draft week is nearly upon us. So just three today, 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: we'll get through this. Uh So, I went to a 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: cool like speakeasy with Ellie over the weekend and she 61 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: just wanted to kind of go out and and check 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: his place out, and I'm like, okay, So we sit 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: down and I end up talking football with the guy 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: that's next to us, and his name was JP. 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: JP. 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: Checks out our stuff. Such a romantic meeting you, JP. 67 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very romantic, you know. 68 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: And and Ellie kind of knows this is going to happen, 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: and we go out in public somehow, some way, I'm 70 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: just going to end up talking football with somebody, and. 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: She's okay with it, like we're gonna have a night 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: out at to speakeasyer and oh hey, let's in the 73 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: fifth room exactly. 74 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: So anyway, shout out to you, JP. He was great 75 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: meeting you. Chris is listening from Saint George, Utah. Yeah 76 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: you ever been there? 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh I have not, but I was just talking about 78 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: that area of Utah. In fact, I spoke at a group. 79 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: It was in Carrollton, Missouri. Your granddad would have loved this. 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and so Carroll County, Missouri, and someone came 81 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: up they were they were at this event from southern 82 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Utah and they were in from the Saint George area. 83 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: So this was just last night. This is weird. Wow. 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: But Dixie Utah Tech is down in there, also, Utah Tech, 85 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Utah Tech Southern Utah is down in there too. So 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: a couple universities here in that Dixie range Dixie Utah Range. 87 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: It was Dixie State. At one time it was a 88 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: powered jucob then it became I think Utah a tech. 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: Okay, very cool. More, you know, is near like all 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: the national parks and all that. 91 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: It's near Las Vegas. 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's a National park vegational. 93 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: Park in some ways it might be. Then lastly, shout 94 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: out to Oreo the Dog. So someone wrote in for 95 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: their dog. We talked about my dog Pip on last 96 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: week's episode. 97 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: No better dog than Pip. 98 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: Well, Oreo, let's take a case dog Lola. Shout out 99 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: to Lola as well. Tied for first, but Oreo the Dog. 100 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: I don't know Oreo's owner, but they got Oreo in 101 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, mere months before the Chiefs went on to 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl for the first time in fifty years, 103 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: and Oreo has been by their side through all the 104 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: Super Bowl craziness. So Oreo is a good luck charms. 105 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: So shout out to you, Oreo. 106 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. We don't know the breed of Oreo. 107 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Don't know much about Oreo except that they're lucky. 108 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Is Oreo Mangie Mutt Rescue All American dog. 109 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: We need more information, let us know more about Oriolon. Yeah. 110 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: But regardless, Orio has been a good luck charm and 111 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: I'll take all the luck that we can get. 112 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: And I would not put out there to send us 113 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: your favorite dog, or it would crash the site because 114 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: here come all the defending Kingdom dogs from around the world. 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Although that would be fun to new segment, what is 116 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: really fun is we get the chance to have Mike Bradway. 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: And Mike is closing in on twenty years in the 118 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: National Football League. His official title with the Chiefs Senior 119 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: director of Player Personnel. But his dad is awesome. He's 120 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: a consultant for the Panthers, but he was in our 121 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: personnel department when I first. 122 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: Came into the league. 123 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I had such awesome conversations with him as dad's Terry 124 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: was a former GM of the Jets, has been around 125 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: the league for a long time, and you'll hear it 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: as we introduce Mike. But Mike's fashioned his own career 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: and Mike's brilliance is just a testimony to the depth 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: and comprehensive nature of Brett Beach's staff. Now last year, 129 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: if you want to dig it out of the archives, 130 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: you'll find us talking about the scouts. But it's not 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: just the scouts. It's Chris Schey, it's dealing with the 132 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: cap it's working with this pro personnel, player personnel, all 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: working together with the college scouts, with the coaches. I'm 134 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: not sure I fully appreciate how good they are and 135 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: how awesome they work together. 136 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: It's so easy to take them for granted. I mean, 137 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: these people are here every day, they're on the road 138 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: all the time, they're working crazy hours. They spend more 139 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: time with their coworkers here in the front office than 140 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: they do with their own families most of the time. 141 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: And it's all about striving to get back to the 142 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Super Bowl and to win it every single year. And again, 143 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we're just so fortunate to have these people 144 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: working in our building who are the best at what 145 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: they do. And you can see why other teams want 146 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: to hire away our people, like the Titans go get 147 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: Mike Borganzi, and the Bears go get Ryan Poles years ago, 148 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: the Colts come and get Chris Ballard. I mean, this 149 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: is going to keep happening a long time because we 150 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: have bread exactly. 151 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, four teams in the league that our guys. 152 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: It's a lot of teams coming to the chiefs and 153 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: saying we want that guy. And just imagine the brain 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: trust here, I mean, the different perspectives and viewpoints and expertise. 155 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: It's just really incredible and to have Brett kind of 156 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: leading the whole group. But it's also the fact that 157 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: he's willing to listen to opposing viewpoints. He wants to 158 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: hear what they have to say, and he's involved in 159 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: every single step of the process. It's not just uh, 160 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: you know, a certain couple of people they handle this 161 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: area and no one else looks at it. It's a 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: comprehensive thing and it's a really just an incredible team. 163 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: And obviously the football team's success is a testament to 164 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: what these guys. The hours they put in day in 165 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: and day. 166 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Out, and in the NFL calendar, and a coach is 167 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: working insane hours. They work insane hours. Yeah, it's crazy, 168 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: but there are there are gaps they get times. Now 169 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: coach may not take it, but he makes sure everybody 170 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: gets out of the building of that coaching staff. So 171 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: there's gaps and times they can get away, sometimes a 172 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: two week period or even longer. Brett Veach's guys don't, 173 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: and these runs to the Super Bowl. The fact that 174 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: we've had seven straight AFC Championship appearances and to be 175 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: in all the Super Bowls. We've been in five Super 176 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Bowls in the last six years is really taxing on 177 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Brett Veach's guys because he sent me twice text me, 178 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, they're grinding the day after parades. They're in 179 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: there early in the morning looking because they have to 180 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: get ready for the Combine. They've been to the Senior Bowl, 181 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: they've been to East West Shrine, but right after the 182 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is the Combine, and where the rest of 183 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the leagues had scoutings, has kind of maybe taken a breath. 184 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: These dudes have had no time to exhale unless it's 185 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: July and the only time where there's a plant shutdown, 186 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: that's the only time these guys get when we. 187 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: Go to Saint Joe. They basically have no time off 188 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: until Rookie Mini Camp the next year. It's like rippling 189 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: that wraps up because there's a break between Rookie Mini 190 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: Camp and OTA's kind of kind of but for the 191 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: most part, like you're jumping into training camp. If you're 192 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: one of the area scouts, or you're in the draft 193 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: evaluation process, you're sent out all over the country. You're 194 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: leaving and leaving your family most likely to go just 195 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: watch guys for months and months. But if you're here 196 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: in the building, you're at camp, and then the season starts, 197 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: you're here all season long. Obviously, hopefully we go to 198 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: the super Bowl like we had the last three years. 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully we win it, and then immediately you're grinding on 200 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: draft stuff all through that free agency draft happens. You 201 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: have to get all the udfas in here, you have 202 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: rookie mini camp, and then you might have a day 203 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: or two maybe, Like Brett talked about how a couple 204 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: of years ago, his first day off since training camp, 205 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: he went to the F one race after rookie minniamp 206 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: was over, and he's like, I have not had one 207 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: day off. And you know, there's a reason they're in 208 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: these jobs. They're built differently and they're able to do it. 209 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: They love it and they enjoy it and they're incredible 210 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: at it. But it's like a different breed. I mean, 211 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. 212 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Their families have to be understanding. 213 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: They live for late June or early July when the 214 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: NFL shuts down, right and there's a reason they could, guys, 215 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: go recharge your batteries. Mike Bradway's brilliant and we get 216 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: the blessing to talk talk to him on this edition 217 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom. A special moment in DTK Defending 218 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: the Kingdom history because it's the first time we've had 219 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: two Blue Valley North Mustangs on the set at the 220 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: same time. Honestly, it's a treat. We talked this episode 221 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: ISS entitled in Veach in Veach's guys we trust and 222 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Mike Bradway is with us, the senior director of player 223 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Personnel for the Chiefs, and Mike, let me say this, 224 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: congratulations on an incredible career to this point. 225 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: You're zeroing in on two decades. 226 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: Thank you. 227 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, ten years with the Eagles, in eight years with us. 228 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: Your dad was awesome in my first years in the league. 229 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: We had the best talks. He is such a great dude. 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: But you fashioned your own career, so congratulates. 231 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: I appreciate the measure. 232 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's some of the finest memories grown up. 233 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: We're listening to you and going to Arrowhead in the 234 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 5: late nineties, you know, just growing up around the Kingdom 235 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 5: and feel very blessed and to be here. 236 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: Well, your dad's a savant and you are too. We're 237 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: zeroing in on the twenty twenty five draft again. It's eminent, 238 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: but you know, like coach will tell me, he goes 239 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: every year is different, man, Every year is different as 240 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: a team. But I've learned your dad started this. Every 241 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: year is different in the draft. So twenty twenty five, 242 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: when you look at it from thirty thousand feet, what 243 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: do you see? 244 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think you're right. 245 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 5: You know, every draft is different, has his strengths as weaknesses. 246 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: You know. 247 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 5: I think when you look at this one particular, I 248 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: don't think you're gonna see six quarterbacks going the top twelve. 249 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: I think that was a unique year. 250 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: You know, this year, I think you can really you 251 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 5: can really focus on the lines, you know. I think 252 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: there's some depth of D line, O line. I think 253 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 5: there's a good running back class. I think the tight 254 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: ends are deep. But you know, from our standpoint, even 255 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 5: the positions that may be weaker, I think we look 256 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: at it as a positive. I think there's pockets within each 257 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 5: of those positions where there's some value, whether that's day two. 258 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 5: Day three, there's some good corner depth, but we we 259 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: think where we're picking with the three picks in the 260 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 5: top sixty six, four in the top ninety five, there's 261 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: some really good depth on day two where there's an opportunity. 262 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: There's flexibility there to whether it's stay pat take four players, 263 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 5: or move up or down. I think there's a lot 264 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 5: of flexibility of what. 265 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: We have and for you guys, for fans, and for 266 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: a lot of like kind of casual draft watchers. The 267 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: interest in this begins with the combine, but obviously for 268 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: you and your group, it begins way before that. Walk 269 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: us through the process of how you start learning about 270 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: these players, kind of creating your board and leading to 271 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: draft day. 272 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 273 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 5: So I think the reality is that our scouts have 274 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 5: been covering these guys for you know, two three years, 275 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, so we've known about especially these guys at 276 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: the top. You know, we've just been continually to get 277 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: information and learn about these guys. 278 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: But it can you know, really for this draft. 279 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: It starts in the summer where our guys are evaluating 280 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: you know, the top one fifty players, and then from 281 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: the fall, it's the it's the school visits it's the 282 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: character building, and then the board starts to materialize, probably 283 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: in December when our scouts are and for the meetings, 284 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: and at that point, I think it's all getting guys 285 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 5: in the right kind of clumps, you know, on the board, 286 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: the right pockets, and going from there learning more about 287 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 5: you know, the character piece, the medical piece, the testing, 288 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 5: and that's kind of where guys separate themselves. But it's 289 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: a process. You know, they're each part of the process. 290 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 5: It's the bores changing and the one thing that you learn. 291 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: Has got to be adaptable. 292 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: You've alluded to this, but having four picks in the 293 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: top one hundred is pretty juicy. But how much or 294 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: how realistic is it for us to expect to get 295 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: a day one starter somewhere in those top four selections. 296 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think anytime you're you know, day one, day 297 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: two picks, I think you got to go in thinking 298 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 5: those guys will at some point in their rookie year, 299 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: especially the first first round picks are a little different. 300 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: You expect those guys to probably play a little more, 301 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 5: have a significant right away, But all those guys, you know, 302 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 5: at some point in their rookie year should be steady starters. 303 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: For you know. 304 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: I think, you know, obviously blessed to have a pretty 305 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: good roster here without a lot of true holes. But again, 306 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 5: all those guys were taking and even you know, day three, like, 307 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 5: we want all those guys to have roles right away. 308 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 5: They might not be starting roles, but you know, those 309 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 5: guys they need to be significant, you know, contributors early. 310 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: So that that's kind of how we view it. 311 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: When it comes you can talk with Mike Bradway. 312 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: I just want to let everybody know our senior director, 313 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: player personnel, it's just exciting to have you here. 314 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, I just one to ask when it comes to 315 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: finding these prospects that will come in here and hopefully contribute. 316 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: I feel like with a lot of teams, there's the 317 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: front office and the coaching staff and they operate almost separately. 318 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: Not really the case here, though, there seems to be 319 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: so much collaboration between the front office and the coaching staff. 320 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: Can you speak to that a little bit, how they're 321 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: involved in the draft process. 322 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what makes kind of our you 323 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 5: know process unique. Now it helps you know, we've been 324 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 5: together for so long, so we know exactly what SPAGS 325 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 5: is looking for, what Nags is looking for, you know, 326 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: what coach likes in a player. You know, not just 327 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: on the field, you know, talent wise, but also the makeup, 328 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 5: you know. So I think just the collaboration. I know 329 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 5: that word gets thrown out a lot, but I mean 330 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: the communication we have with our staff, I mean it 331 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: is every single day, it is constant. It is you know, 332 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: there's no secrets, like we are truly one team together, 333 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 5: and I think that's the best way to do it. 334 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: You know, I think we're not always going to see 335 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: things i'd eye, but hey, let's talk about it. Let's 336 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 5: get in the draft room. Say what do you see? 337 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: What do we see it? You know, we these guys 338 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: kind of get into the process late. You know, obviously 339 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: you know they're Bay play as long as we have 340 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 5: you know, so you know, our scouts have been watching 341 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: these guys for years. So it's kind of trying to 342 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: get all on the same page. And what we've learned 343 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 5: is that there could be some players that are just 344 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: maybe better fit elsewhere, you know, and that's fine, Like 345 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 5: we're gonna find guys that are that are chiefs, that 346 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: are that fit the profile on the field, and then 347 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: you know what we're looking for in the locker. 348 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Room Matt and I talked about last week is kind 349 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: of a primer. There's always seemed like a run, right 350 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you talked about the quarterbacks last year or the wide 351 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: receiver run in twenty two. 352 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: I remember. 353 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you about making a decision 354 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: whether to trade up, which has done a lot, trade 355 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: down or stick. What goes into that process of deciding 356 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: we're going or we're moving down. 357 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in the in the instances where we've been, 358 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 5: you know, ready to pay, and you know, we've identified 359 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: a guy that we really like, you know, and there's 360 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: he's clearly sticks out on. 361 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: The board like a sore thumb. 362 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: Like I think Veach has proven that the only way 363 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 5: you know that you're gonna get the guy is to 364 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: be aggressive, and sometimes you don't may not have leverage 365 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: in a trade in terms of value, but the most 366 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 5: important thing is getting the guy that that we're convicted on, 367 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: that we are you know, passionate about, that we like 368 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: and we're not gonna we'd rather, you know, give up 369 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: a little bit to get a guy that we really like, 370 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: as opposed to maybe wait, you know, ten to twelve 371 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 5: picks sweat it out and you know, potentially lose out 372 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: on a guy, but then you know the trade down 373 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: option when we don't. 374 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: We haven't done it much here obviously, you know, with 375 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: with with Brett. 376 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: But you know, just for example, if you have if 377 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: you know we picked up the end of the rounds, 378 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 5: if you have you know there's five guys you have, 379 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: you know there's fifteen picks away, you have five guys 380 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: that are great equally, then maybe just kind of let it, 381 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 5: you know, play out and if they're still there where 382 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 5: you're picking, like maybe you move back a little bit 383 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: and you know, get some more you know, a pick or. 384 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: Two and a willing trade partner. 385 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean told me they like you guys walk into 386 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: the combine and the other guys like walk away from you. 387 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: Like we've been so successful. 388 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't say that I arrogantly, but yeah, you got 389 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: to have a partner in that. 390 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: It takes two to tango. 391 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: And I think you know that's why we use you know, 392 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 5: like this week and you know previous weeks just to 393 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: call around the league with our contacts and just kind 394 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: of get a feel for you know, hey, would you 395 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 5: be interested in moving up down? Like what are your 396 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 5: kind of you know, general thoughts on on where you 397 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: guys might go, and then as the draft plays out, 398 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: like you know, we all have such good contacts in 399 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 5: the league, and. 400 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: You know we all have kind of the same trade charts. 401 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 5: You know, so's it's not you know, it's no one's 402 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: you know, just dominating trades consistently. You know, you always feel, 403 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: you know, if you get the player, you know, training out, 404 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 5: you get the player, like you don't you don't really worry. 405 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 4: About what you give up. 406 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 3: What's the energy like in the draft room though, when 407 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: you see a guy like Trent mcduffy kind slide him 408 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: down the board, maybe didn't think he'd be there and 409 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: you have a chance to go up and get him. 410 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 3: Is it just like electric that that's a guy that 411 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: maybe you didn't think you'd have a chance to get, 412 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: and yeah, he's got to be a chief. 413 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 5: I think that year taught us that you know, we 414 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 5: probably should, you know, do work on you know, everybody 415 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 5: that we think is probably going to go in the 416 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 5: top ten, fifteen, you know, just to be sure, just 417 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 5: because that was obviously a pleasant surprise. But you know, 418 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: there's there was a handful of guys where you're like, well, 419 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 5: these guys are you know, they're top fifteen, and then 420 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 5: they start to fall a little bit, and then if 421 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: they get into you know, particular range, that's that's where 422 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 5: you kind of pounce. 423 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 4: And those are the conversations. 424 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 5: That we will have, We've had that we will have, 425 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 5: like if this player falls to twenty two, twenty three, 426 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: twenty four, like, should we make a big move for him? 427 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: You three picks on the seventh round as it stands 428 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: right now. Now we have learned Matt and I over 429 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: the years, especially with Brett and you and the rest 430 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: of the crew, is the seventh round pay attention. That's 431 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: where you get Isaiah picheck On, Azzie Johnson, Jalen Watson. 432 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: But then the undrafted free agent craziness. But I'm looking here, 433 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean Carson Steele, Nico Rimihio, Jack Cochrane, Caleendo. 434 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: Kaylie Endo. Those guys are all right there. 435 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: What about that dynamic three attacking the seventh round? And 436 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: then the New York Stock Exchange opens when their draft ends, 437 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: and the phone start going crazy. 438 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a I mean specifically about the you know, 439 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: late rounds. I mean, the good thing about the way 440 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 5: we do our process, like those guys we take it 441 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: in the seventh round. 442 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: Like we've done a lot of work on those guys. 443 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 5: We've watched even Brett, Like we've watched tape on those guys, 444 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 5: you know, extensively. 445 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: Our coaches are aware of them. We've had countless reports 446 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 4: on them. 447 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 5: So you know, those are guys that you know, we 448 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 5: are probably you know, we're probably in the fifth, fourth, 449 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: fifth round that just you know fell for whatever reason, 450 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: and we kind of identify the kind of guys that 451 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: we want to take shots on. You know, I think 452 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: typically you try to take shots on guys that maybe 453 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: their careers didn't go as you know where they're production, 454 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 5: you know, injury, like you know, maybe there were a 455 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 5: couple of schools, but they have the traits, they have 456 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: the passion for the game. Like those are the kind 457 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: of guys you'd take a shot on. And specifically about freegency. Yeah, 458 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: it's crazy, but we have we have a very you know, 459 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 5: detailed process to you know, like you know, each scout's 460 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: gonna have a position. The communications great in the room, 461 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: you know, with with Crische you know, just kind of 462 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 5: managing everything and just constant dialogue. You know, it's that's 463 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: the one thing we stressed everybody like just over communicate, 464 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 5: you know, because everything's there's so much coming at you, 465 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: so many numbers, and you know there's going to be 466 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 5: a handful of guys that go undrafted that we really like. 467 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 5: You know, those guys were going to be aggressive going 468 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: after him, And I think it's a credit to our 469 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: personnel staff, our scouts that we found guys, you know, 470 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 5: in a super Bowl caliber team. To have some undrafted 471 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 5: free and to make a team, it's not easy, you know, 472 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: but it's a credit to I think our staff and 473 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: also the players themselves. 474 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: And what's it like when you have picks and multiple 475 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: picks in one round, like in the seventh round having 476 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 3: three picks, particularly the third round you're picking at the 477 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: very beginning of the third round, and you know there's 478 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: picks are close together. What's the draft room like when 479 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: you have all right, here's a selection and we're on 480 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: the clock again in five minutes. 481 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, So well, you know, after the draft, you know, 482 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 5: after round one, wild get together and we'll basically reach 483 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 5: out the board, you know, and then I know we 484 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: got a long way to go in round two. But 485 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 5: you know, as those guys start getting you know, picked off. 486 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: Like as we're close to the end of the second round, 487 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 5: we'll have we'll have a handful of names that you know, 488 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 5: we're really interested in, and you know, I think we'll 489 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: be hey, let's you know, let's let's take this guy 490 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 5: first and based off our intel, based off our knowledge, 491 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: maybe this guy's got a better chance of. 492 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: Being there, you know, top of three. 493 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's always you gotta be you gotta be ready. 494 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna have from one thirty three to two twenty six. 495 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: I could see Brett filling in that gap, but yeah, 496 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do in that gap because there's 497 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of asteroids flying. 498 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's gonna it's a little strange, you know 499 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 5: with the you know, not having you know, round you know, 500 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 5: picksing five and six. But you know, we he almost 501 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 5: got to be prepared that if we do, you know, 502 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: just to be able to you know, be. 503 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: Ready for those guys. 504 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: And yeah, I think this this first year we've had 505 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 5: mister relevant, that's pretty cool. 506 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: Is Ryan suck up years and years ago? Yeah, in 507 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: like in two thousand and yeah, ten or nine or something, 508 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it been a long time. 509 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's we we we've gone through the board, you 510 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: know and be like, man, this guy, this guy would 511 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 5: be a good mystery of you know, there's a handful 512 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 5: of these guys that we've you know, we've talked about that. 513 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: You know would fit that mold, you know. 514 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 5: But yeah, there's it's ah, the days are long, you know, 515 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: it's you know, you the unfortunate thing is you love 516 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 5: some of these players. You do so much work on 517 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: these guys, and you know there's just guys that you 518 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 5: love to have on your team, and you know there 519 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: is some luck involved, you know, and it's uh, the 520 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: only on you know right now you might only get 521 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 5: eight of them. 522 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: You know, it's just the reality of it. 523 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: Before we let you go. 524 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Because Matt and are up above you on three the 525 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: third floor of the building. Well, the draft room is 526 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: like a flurry of activity. You've got somebody you want them, 527 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: you can't go up and get them, and then they 528 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: fly off the board. 529 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: How do you handle that? 530 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: Because we don't handle it great. We got a guy 531 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: who are. 532 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: Like, oh, there's a collective groan you know for you know, 533 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: and then you know we might have to you know, 534 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 5: go pace in the Hallway a little bit, you know, 535 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: maybe get a quick stack or something, you know, but 536 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 5: then you got to you gotta repivot, you know, you 537 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: got to get back in it. And you know that's 538 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 5: why with every selection it's A and B plan C. 539 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: Expect the unexpected. 540 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 5: And you know there's been times we've been on the 541 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 5: clock ready to make a pick and the guy goes 542 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: right before us. 543 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: It's for like, you might only have a few minutes 544 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: to pick. 545 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: But that's why we set the board the way we 546 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: do and just kind of let it fall to us. 547 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Man, that's awesome, what a treat. Thanks for being with us. 548 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: Thanks busy time. But Mike Bradway our senior director player 549 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: personnel and just brilliant. 550 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: His dad was awesome. 551 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Your kids are even involved in this if you want 552 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: to check their draft board. 553 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: But anyway, thanks for being with us MICROA. 554 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: It's been great. 555 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: Thanks great stuff there from Mike Bradway and again a 556 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: great example of the brilliance of Brett Veitch's guys. 557 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and again those guys don't get as much credit. 558 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: Brett is always the first one to say that he 559 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: wants like the people that work with him to get 560 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: as much credit as he does, and obviously he's kind 561 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 3: of the figurehead. He's the general manager and he's making 562 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: ultimate decisions. But I just love the collaboration of that group. 563 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 3: And again, Brett would be the first to say that 564 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: they deserve so much much credit for all the success 565 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: that we've had. It's not just one person, it's the 566 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: whole team and the whole group. And again, we're very 567 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: lucky to have them all here in Kansas City. 568 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: And the respect they have for each other is again dynamic. 569 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: We'll close it out this way, but I'm really interested. 570 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: We know that Brett likes to move up, we've seen 571 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: him do it, but there's a chance the Chiefs Kingdom 572 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: has to be ready to move down. And if there's 573 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: a draft where people have said, hey, this is a 574 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: draft to move down or you're thirty one, this would 575 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: be the one we just heard Mike talk about it. 576 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: There is a seemingly a sweet spot from late first 577 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: rounds to maybe the beginning of the fourth But with 578 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have in those four picks between thirty one 579 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: and ninety five, seems to be a really good strategic 580 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: position to either build equity to move or to find starters. 581 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: And I really think just the way the Chiefs attacked 582 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: free agency this year. We've talked about this ad nauseum, 583 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: but I think this year, maybe more than many others, 584 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: we truly can just take the best players available. And 585 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: that's the position that you want to be in. And 586 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: Brett Veach had his like pre draft press conference earlier 587 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: today actually, and he said that they have between twelve 588 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: the fourteen players that have like the hard fast first 589 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: round grades, and sure, if one of those guys falls 590 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: into the twenty range, they could be aggressive and move up. 591 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: And we've seen them do that before with players like 592 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 3: Trent McDuffie and Xavier Worthy last year. But he said 593 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: there's also maybe more players than normal who are in 594 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: that secondary wave where it's late first round, early second round. 595 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: They have a lot of players kind of with similar 596 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: grades in that area. That's a good position to be 597 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: in if you're the Chiefs because if someone else really 598 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: wants to trade into the first round and the guys 599 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: that you have high grades on are all gone, you 600 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 3: can just move back and acquire more picks and you're 601 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: going to get a player that maybe you thought as 602 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: the same caliber as a player you would have taken 603 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: at thirty one or you stand pat and you're going 604 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: to get a good player there anyway. So it's a 605 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: really good spot for the Chiefs to be in. If 606 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: you're more interested in all this stuff. Brett said, he 607 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: talked for like forty minutes. It's going to be on 608 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: the Chiefs YouTube page here, really interesting stuff. Brett is 609 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: great because if you listen, he will tell you what 610 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: you're curious about. He's not playing games like he'll tell you, Hey, 611 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: I think ol DL running back, corner, and receiver are 612 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: the strength of this draft, and we'll probably take those positions. 613 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: And it's like, Okay, we'll pay attention to those spots. 614 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: Then one final thing before we close. 615 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: And I'm fascinated by this because of the changing landscape 616 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: in college sports. I think we're going to do a 617 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: whole DTK on this subject, and that is with the 618 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: movement in college sports, all the transfers mostly moving up nil. 619 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: But I'm just curious what the fifth, eh the sixth, 620 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: seventh rounds look like, and what undrafted free agency will 621 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: look like, not just for the Chiefs but all thirty 622 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: two teams, because I get the sense we're in a 623 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of a revolutionary time of the NFL and the 624 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: personnel coming into this league. 625 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: The landscape's totally different now, and it's different for a 626 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: couple of reasons. If you look at some players that 627 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: will be taken later in the draft, some guys taken 628 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: high in the draft, what's really strange is they will 629 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: have like five years of college experience and they've played 630 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: at three or four different schools, And I think that 631 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: kind of makes things difficult on evaluators because if a 632 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: guy wasn't in the same place the entire time, how 633 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: did he grow? How did he improve from year to year? 634 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: And some players can't do it even though they've moved around. 635 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: But it's definitely harder, I think if you're not in 636 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: the same place and with the same coaching staff. Also, 637 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 3: the ages of players are going to be different, So 638 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: you're not going to find many juniors who are coming 639 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: out and going to be taken in the fifth or 640 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: sixth round because they can likely make more money just 641 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: staying in college or by transferring. So I think what 642 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: you're going to see over the years with your later 643 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: on picks in your udfas is prospects who are twenty four, 644 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: twenty five years old with a lot of experience, which 645 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: is a benefit has me thinking of guys like Swayze Boseman. 646 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 3: They can come in right away and play on special 647 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: teams and they have experience playing a lot of football. 648 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: But there's also less time to develop. And that's the 649 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: benefit of having guys like Xavier Worthy and Kingsley Suamataia 650 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: early in the draft last year year. Those guys are 651 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: both twenty twenty one years old. Their runway is very long. 652 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: But if you're already twenty four to twenty five years old, 653 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: less time to develop. So put some stress in the 654 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: coaching staff and put some stress in the front office 655 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: to find the players who might be older and you 656 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: think can help you right away. 657 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: But the top end of that is the window to 658 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: play in this league. Everybody talks about then thirty years old, 659 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: things start to get weird. And I mean bo Nix 660 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: is a twenty six year old rookie quarterback. 661 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Mahomes won the Super Bowl at twenty four. 662 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 3: Think about that. 663 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Think about that, and then and then the receiver, who's 664 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: the Broncos receiver, who's the kid at Utah who's twenty 665 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: seven years old as a rookie. So that was some 666 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: of COVID, but this now becomes non COVID and it 667 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: becomes a dynamic. We're going to do a whole episode 668 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: on this, maybe a couple we'll let the draft kind 669 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: of smoke out here, then we'll look at our picks 670 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: and evaluate our roster. But soon after that, I think 671 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: we're going to jump into this because I think fans 672 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: don't think about it, and I think it's going to 673 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: change this league dramatically. So all right, we're headed for 674 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: the draft, and of course you can follow us on 675 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: our platforms. We're going to keep you updated. Matt and 676 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: I are digging in, baby. But one of the things 677 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: we have confidence in is not only in Brett Veach. 678 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: Do we trust in Veach's guys. 679 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: We trust