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Speaker 1: We've talked about the way you've been able to adapt

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Speaker 1: as a coach this year. What's the difference between twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six Mike Brown versus your first head coaching job, Bro,

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Speaker 1: was it your first head was that Cleveland?

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Speaker 2: Cleveland? Yeah? Five five.

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Speaker 3: I always felt like I could work with anybody. And

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Speaker 3: when I say work with him, I'm talking outwork. I never,

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Speaker 3: I never will sit in front of anybody and say

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Speaker 3: I'm the smartest cookie in the jar?

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Speaker 2: All right, Do I think I'm dumb? No?

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Speaker 3: Do I think I'm the smartest guy. Do I think

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Speaker 3: I'm the smartest guy? No, But I will say this, JB.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I can work just as hard as

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Speaker 3: anybody out there. I also feel like I out if

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Speaker 3: I want to, I can outwork anybody out there. Those

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Speaker 3: two things I have controlled over. And so when I

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Speaker 3: was young, that's part of how I got my first job.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I worked very very hard to get it,

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Speaker 3: and fortunately, blessed lucky to get it. I got it,

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Speaker 3: and so I took that same approach into the job,

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Speaker 3: meaning that if I had a practice plan that was

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Speaker 3: two and a half hours, and you best believe it

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Speaker 3: was boom boom, ten minutes here, fifteen minutes here, These

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Speaker 3: coaches here, this here. When I used to meet I

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Speaker 3: used to ask the coach, whoever's leading that drill, Okay,

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Speaker 3: show me what you're going to do in front of players,

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Speaker 3: because I did not want to look bad in front of.

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Speaker 2: A group of players as a staff.

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Speaker 3: But if I had a two and a half hour practice,

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Speaker 3: you best believe we're getting through it. If the night

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Speaker 3: before I had pulled forty five clips, you best believed

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Speaker 3: we watched it all forty five clips. So I was

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Speaker 3: pretty rigid and methodical during my approach that those first

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Speaker 3: few years. And did it help Yes, because I had

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Speaker 3: a young team led by Lebron James that probably need

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Speaker 3: some structure and some guidance and some some some direction

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Speaker 3: when it came to being diligent about what's in front

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Speaker 3: of you to be prepared for games. But was that

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Speaker 3: the right way to do for five years?

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Speaker 2: So I was there?

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Speaker 3: No, You know, I grew a little bit, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't grow enough to understand that I need to get

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Speaker 3: out of my own way a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Fast forward to here.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's about the work to a certain degree,

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Speaker 3: but in my seat more importantly than anything else. And again,

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Speaker 3: I know I've already mentioned these two guys names, but

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Speaker 3: watching Pop, watching Steve Kerr, their ability to message and

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Speaker 3: uh and then or be flexible to me is off

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Speaker 3: the charts. And I actually used to when I was

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Speaker 3: working for Steve. I used to carry a little notepad

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Speaker 3: in my back pocket, my little red pan, and I

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Speaker 3: take notes I didn't take. I took very very practice

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Speaker 3: and meet team meetings. I took very very few notes

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Speaker 3: on the x's and o's part. The notes I took

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Speaker 3: were about how they how he delivered his message to

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Speaker 3: what his body language was, all those other things who

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Speaker 3: he included, and I added to whatever I felt needed

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Speaker 3: this year, for me, the most important thing was my

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Speaker 3: ability to message to you guys, more than the exes

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Speaker 3: and o's. And that's why when some of the stuff

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Speaker 3: didn't fit KAT initially, if I was younger, okay, I

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Speaker 3: would have kept cat after practice, been go through more

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Speaker 3: of this, more of that. But it's about Okay, it's

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Speaker 3: not always the x's and o's. Sometimes it's about putting

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Speaker 3: make them feel appreciated, and so it's more than anything else.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six, Mike Brown is about the messaging and

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Speaker 3: the connecting with the group, whether it's the coaching staff

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Speaker 4: I would say that one of the of the messaging

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Speaker 4: it was perfect, But I think it was after it

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Speaker 4: was either after game four. It might be either game

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Speaker 4: it was like we've all we're in it, Like we're

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Speaker 4: in a good situation now, but we've all need to

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Speaker 4: stay locked in because we've all been doubted before. And

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Speaker 4: I'm just and I was like sitting there going through

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was called chubby at.

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Speaker 4: One point, but it was but it was like you

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Speaker 4: so for you guys, for the coaching staff, like everyone

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Speaker 4: And the way that you delivered that message, especially like

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Speaker 2: Know, I think we're up with a three to one

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Speaker 4: It's like it was a perfect time of like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're feeling good, but like stay like stay humble because

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Speaker 2: We're not there yet, not to get it. Amazing about that.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, And I will tell you throughout the

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Speaker 3: course of this run, I got help with the messaging

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Speaker 3: from different people and and I'm gonna tell you guys.

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Speaker 2: You guys may know this, you may not. Uh. Dylan

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Speaker 3: I spoke to Dylan often during this playoff run because

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Speaker 3: he is just going through it with Oklahoma City, and

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Speaker 3: so I said, Hey, when you guys were in this position,

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Speaker 3: what Mark saying, What was Sam Presty saying?

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Speaker 2: What were you guys saying to each other? What do

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Speaker 3: You remember the video that that we showed h of

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Speaker 3: you guys when you lost in the Eastern Conference finals

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Speaker 3: to the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: That was his idea, and you know, he wanted to

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Speaker 2: just I gotta kill him. I was sick that day, dog,

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Speaker 2: I was sick. Was that the same day? The practice day? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So he wanted to show still shots, you know, because

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Speaker 3: they did something similar to that because they lost from

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Speaker 2: Just to remind everybody that, hey, this is what it

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Speaker 5: And also I think it takes a lot of like

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Speaker 5: when you talk about how long you've been in the

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Speaker 5: league and you've been head coach for a while, but

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Speaker 5: you're going to a guy in his second year saying,

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Speaker 2: What did you see?

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Speaker 5: And I think even that takes a lot of humility,

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Speaker 5: with these guys like all day, that's I think that

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Speaker 2: I was sick.

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Speaker 4: I guess it were of that was I think all

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Speaker 4: we were about to start a practice and like normally

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Speaker 4: we'll watch film or whatever, so we'll we'll have all

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Speaker 4: we got we got a film, so like we're all

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Speaker 4: all just like, ain't no way he about to play this, right,

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Speaker 4: He ain't no way, and he plays it and we're

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Speaker 2: And that's all that's all I was thinking about. I'm like, broh,

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Speaker 2: there's no way, you know.

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Speaker 4: That's why my Yeah, that's why my damn practice that

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Speaker 2: But it's.

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Speaker 3: Is that the only day is practices that man, Wow,

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking him a question.

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Speaker 2: Answer.

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Speaker 1: It's the only day. I don't think he's had one

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Speaker 1: good practice that this year. Yeah, I know, I'm being

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Speaker 1: I'm being dead ass, like the worst practice player ever

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Speaker 1: that goes back to Nova.

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Speaker 4: But I've practiced the most, being present in drills the

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Speaker 4: most this year that I have.

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Speaker 2: It's still.

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Speaker 1: If any other player in the league did that, they

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Speaker 3: You probably you know what, I'm gonna walk back something

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Speaker 3: early because you remember how he said that you know,

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Speaker 3: you and cat something like that had a longer lead

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Speaker 3: and all this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you had the longer he had before the.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead thought you were a ten times first team

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Speaker 1: on me and play.

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Speaker 2: And he knows because I told him. I told him, I.

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Speaker 3: Said, Joah, I said, Josh, if you'll feel like practice

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Speaker 2: Said, you're okay to go on to back? Then what

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Speaker 3: He started outing a little bit, he going to back,

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Speaker 3: So you had a little bit of a leash to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I did. I did how many times?

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Speaker 2: How many times? Not even practice days.

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Speaker 1: They tell you like, I'm like, we're no, we're not

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Speaker 1: going We're not like doing drills, we're walking through we're

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Speaker 1: talking stuff at my Josh. So when you mess around,

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Speaker 1: all the people think it's okay to mess around.

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Speaker 2: I just need you to app somewhat.

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Speaker 1: Serious, like if you want to walk around in your

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Speaker 1: head to do that, but don't don't do with other

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Speaker 3: I even went to him a couple of times. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I know, Josh, say, is Josh okay. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: don't worry about him.

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, Josh, JOSHU It just.

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Speaker 1: When other people follow you, that's when I get pissed.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, brother, yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: But that's one thing out because I'm like, mentally, I'm

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Speaker 4: always like I understand what's being said, I understand how

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Speaker 4: to do it, but then yeah, I just get like

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Speaker 4: I just get bored.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, ah, that's why, and that's why we're

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Speaker 1: giving them offensive rebounds and key moments of the game.

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Speaker 2: Your habits.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that was the first thing I saw Coach right

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Speaker 4: the first thing after game, I said. We called it

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Speaker 4: tagging at Nova. I just walked up to him, I said, Coach,

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Speaker 4: I forgot to tag. That's because that's exactly the same

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Speaker 4: of what you talked about when you're child.

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Speaker 2: To me Nova.

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Speaker 4: We I think it was probably twenty what I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna say what player was there, probably like eleven twelve

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Speaker 4: whatever At nova. They lost the game because someone didn't

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Speaker 4: tag and it was a tipping. So then I just

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Speaker 4: looked at I'm like, yeah, coach, I forgot the tag.

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Speaker 4: That was the first thing I said to him. And

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Speaker 4: he was like, A right, y'all, y'all got away with one.

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