1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Never Fades The Big Dog. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Dan hansis 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: joined in a virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. The big Dog is Derrick Henry. It's Derrick 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Henry's birthday. Titans fans are ready to celebrate running backs return. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of Derrick Henry, boys, how are you, by the way, 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: doing great? Doing great? Danny great, doing fair to well, 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Fair to well. Greg, I we were We had a 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: little cameo there on the NFL Now program today and 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: you moved away from the tie. And I'm not saying 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: it had anything to do with me. In fact, me 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: mentioning that you shouldn't wear a tie, He's only gonna 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: make you want to wear a tie more. But I 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: just I like seeing Greg in the Greg jacket and um, 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: you know Henley or whatever over Greg in the suit 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: and tie. It wasn't it wasn't ut and down. I 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: don't mind ties. You you have this phrase and you 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: said it on the show. When you when you're in 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: the tie, that's when you know they get you. To me. 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that way getting you is 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: mental and uh I'm fine wearing a tie. I told you, like, 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: I would be fine if we had to wear a uniform, 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: because then you're like, you don't have to think about it. 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: It's fine. I don't care about my fashion. Loves a 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: school girl uniform. I you know, I remember working My 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: mom worked at a big insurance company, and UM, I 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: worked in the mail room for a couple of summers 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: in college, and I do remember. And this is to 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: not say anything denigrating about people that work cubical life, 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: because it's a you know, a massive part of our 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: country in terms of the workforce. Even though things are 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: changing now it's not anymore. But I remember thinking, you know, 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: seeing everyone that I just didn't I never wanted to 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: be in the tie. I didn't want to be in 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: a cubicle, which took me to like being on the 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: side lines at high school football games, freezing my butt off, 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: like after college, following a sports dream. But it kind 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: of was born out of not wanting to wear a 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: tie every day in a lot of ways. I mean, 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like I think Greg knows, I've been 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: on anti tie beat for UM a while now, and 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: for many of the reasons that you mentioned. And I 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: had jobs for years, like in downtown l A where 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: you had to wear a tie, and there's definitely when 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: you were on the East Coast that was, you know, 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: requisite for plenty of jobs too. For some reason, that 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: didn't quite bug me. But I when I think about 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: what a tie is like it serves. I don't need 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: it to be functional. Not all fashion needs to be functional, 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: but the concept of a tie at this point, I 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: think we are post ties as even being kind of stylish, 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Like they look um suppressive on so many joke they 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: look suppressive and they look like they're keeping um people prisoner. 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: To some degree, That's how I feel in one unless 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: you do the thing where like you know, you're it's 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: after the wedding or something, you've loosened the tie, the 57 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: shirt is pulled open. I like that look. That look 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: I think is a positive one. Well, yeah, you famously 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: wear a button down shirt every day in your life, 60 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: whether you're going to the beach, whether it's like Saturday afternoon. 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: You are a man who's not about being like ultra 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: casual in this climate. I'm not, but I but I, 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: but I don't rail against button down shirts. I've consistently 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: railed against ties as a concept, and I think um 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Dan is correct that Greg, because we pushed against it, 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: you're pushing against us. And I kind of think that's 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: noble if you're just like, I'm gonna lean into this 68 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: tie thing. I mean, I don't wear it too much, 69 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: but I like wearing them. Fine, I got no problems 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: with it. You know, sometimes it looks better than the 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: shirt without the tie. If you're I don't really like 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: wearing any button up, button up shirts. But once you 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: go there, like maybe you know as as them as 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: they say complete the suit. Now, the pocket square completes 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: the suit. No one ever said the tie does. But 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: that tie, that tie is part of it. The tie 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: is part of the completion. They're they're assuming you have 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: the tie. All right. Let just be yourself, man, whatever 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: whatever makes you feel like you that's the most important thing. Yes, 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, I mentioned it's his birthday. Had he stayed 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: healthy this year, he'd be knocking on the door of 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: an NFL record, I'm sure for rushing yards in a season. 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: And um I did reach out to the l A 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: researchers gang here at NFL Network. They do great work, 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: and I said, you know this is unprecedented territory. It's 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Week eighteen. We've never had a Week eight team before. 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Then Greg said, oh what about ninete when there were 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: two buys nailed at Greg? Good nug there. But this 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: is a this is a different situation. What records and 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: milestones are in danger now that we have an extra week. 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna throw out a few. That's how 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: we'll get into the show. It is a football podcast, 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: after all. Cooper Cup is a hundred and thirty six 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: receiving yards away from breaking Calvin Johnson's two thousand, twelve 95 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: record of one thousand, nine hundred and sixty four in 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: the season. He's also a hundred and seventy one yards 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: away from creating the two thousand club. No one's done 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: that be or The Cup also needs twelve catches uh 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: to break Michael Thomas's record of one Do anybody feel 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: good about that? Is he gonna catch any of these marks? 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: You think? Who do they got? The Niners? Yeah, I 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: think he could get that, but he said he said 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Monday or Sunday that like it shouldn't count. Like he's 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: like negging himself. He's like, Wow, it's a seventeen game season, 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: it should have an asterik. It's like I didn't do 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: it in the same amount of games. I don't think 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: like that's first of all, it's not up to him 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: whether or not it should count. Like I get where 109 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a nice humble approach, but there were decades where 110 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: there were four teen games, and prior to that, there 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: were decades where there were ten or twelve, And it's like, 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: we're there're soon going to be eighteen games, So are 113 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: we going to continually cling to the model that is, 114 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, fading in the background, like new records will 115 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: be broken, and it's you just you just can't really, 116 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: we can't stop. The ship crown is more impressive anyways. 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I think like the receptions, yards of touchdowns all on 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: the same season, that's pretty impressive the fourteen game season, 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: but hey ever says that, and so it was always 120 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: fourteen and sixteen groups together. Like O. J. Simpson, who 121 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: in many other ways is not someone who needs to 122 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: be brought up on the show, but it should be 123 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: mentioned that he he ran for two thousand yards in 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: a fourteen game season. I believe Joe Namath had the 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: passing record UH in a fourteen game season. Now he's 126 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: like seven thousandth all time, probably in a season, but 127 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: there was a time where you had the record. Anyway, 128 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: let's get back on track. Um. Jonathan Taylor needs two 129 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: sixty six to get two thousand. Um. He is playing 130 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. He had two d fifty three yards last 131 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: year in week seventeen. If you guys recall, so you 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: got that Brady. Tom Brady in year twenty one needs 133 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: four eight passing yards to break Peyton Manning single season 134 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: record for five thousand, four hundred and seventy seven yards. 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Another stretch, but doable. We know what's going on with 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: t J. Watt right now. He had four sacks against 137 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: the Browns. We're gonna get to Monday night football in 138 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes. The four sacks moved him 139 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: to twenty one and a half, which is one behind 140 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: Michael a Hand's record of twenty two and a half. Uh. 141 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: He is now the first player to reach twenty sacks 142 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: in a season since Aaron Donald had twenty and a 143 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: half and twenty eighteen. But remember, if you listening to 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: this pod in the summertime, we had the great al 145 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Bubba Baker on at a local McDonald's, and he had 146 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: twenty three sacks for the nineteen seventy eight Lions. Pro 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: Football Reference recognizes that as the record, stax didn't become 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: sacks didn't become a statistic till eighty two. Treyvon Diggs 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: has eleven picks. The Super Bowl era record is thirteen 150 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: by lester Um Jamaar Chase needs forty five yards to 151 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: set the rookie receiving record. Bill Groman had fourteen seventy 152 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: three and nineteen sixty. Kyle Pitts and Its needs fifty 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: nine yards to set the rookie tight end receiving record 154 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: currently one thousand, seventy six Spy Ditka and seventy one 155 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: and finally, Mico Parsons needs two sacks to set the 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: rookie sack record. The rookie record is four teen and 157 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: a half in nineteen ninety nine by you guys got 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: ah let's see nine rookie pass rusher blew up. The 159 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: world went to a Super Bowl with the Titans. Curse 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: von Curse Titans like struggling to get this name. Yeah, 161 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: that's all right, So there you go. That's just setting 162 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: the table for numbers and data I like stats. Not 163 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: good at math, but I've always loved statistics. Wattles trying 164 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: to break a receptions record I believe too. He's three 165 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: away from Bolden's record of one oh one set in 166 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: two thousand three. The what one I think it is 167 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: it is time for that to happen. By the way, 168 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: he missed games, I think he played in fourteen, so 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: there'd be like an asterix on tops of the top 170 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: of the asterix there. But like we need to get 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: the strayhand thing out of our worlds talking point. They 172 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: almost weren't, you know, that was a big deal on 173 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: the Monday night giving it get to that. But I 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: hope they make a big deal about it. That's the 175 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: one of all these that to me is the spiciest. 176 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: And yes, I think the asterix actually cancel each other out. 177 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It would be like, you can't 178 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: you can't asterix this because we have an asterix to 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: show you that that one doesn't matter. This is if 180 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: he indeed plays and doesn't get covided or anything out 181 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: of the situation. Week eighteen, it will be his sixteenth 182 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: game of the season, which matches with straight hand um. Hypothetically, 183 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: I believe played that year as well, so or Game 184 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: right plus straight Hand as the ultimate Asterix. It's funny 185 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: because people do remember this stuff. I mean, it's like 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: him getting it in such a shameful manner. I think 187 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: over the years has somehow made his accomplishment like lesser, 188 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: because you know, he had an amazing season, even if 189 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: he didn't get that sack that way, Like it was 190 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: an incredible season, and yet he's kind of, uh, he's 191 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of pooped on and because of the way he 192 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: got it. And even if I played even the slightest 193 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: role in helping to denigrate that record, something you're leading, 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: a slight role would be, you know, I think you 195 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: had a co starring role or sort of a special 196 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: guest appearance one of these two. All right, we're gonna, 197 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: by the way, with the new year, the calendar flipping over, 198 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: so much uncertainty in the world right now, we're gonna 199 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: keep it positive and optimistic and talk about what we're 200 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: looking forward to now that we're in the year two. 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: But before that, let's close the door. On week seventeen, 202 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, third and three, Naji gets the call, 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: cuts it back through the hole. He's on his way 204 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: he's on twenty what Prince purg Dinner cutdown, Harris Wow, Wow, 205 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Nagy Harris Bill Hill Grove with the call for w 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: V Yes, that was the cherry on top of The 207 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: Steelers had a very underwhelming, underwhelming game offensively, with Ben 208 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: rathls Burger throwing forty six passes with very little success, 209 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because the Pittsburgh defense went nuts 210 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: on the fading Browns and Baker Mayfield picking up nine 211 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: sacks in a fourteen win over their division rivals. That's 212 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: a season suite for the Steelers after Cleveland knock Pittsburgh 213 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs an embarrassing fashion last January. And 214 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Greg will start with you on this at the Steelers. 215 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Clearly Tomlin wanted to make this game special. Pittsburgh still 216 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt, they need to win next week 217 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: and they need a loss by the Colts to Jacksonville. 218 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: But I think Tomlin Brunton Center was like, I want 219 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: this special for Ben. We wanted him to have a 220 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: big game that let him throw all day or all night, 221 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: and it's just like it wasn't happening, which just underlines 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: why they need to kind of move on and I 223 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: think everyone's on the same page, including Ben Roethlisberger. Try 224 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: to make it into this like feel good saying goodbye 225 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: to a legend, and it is that for Pittsburgh, but 226 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: it's not for the rest of the country. There is 227 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: no you know, great quarterback I think over the last 228 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty years that's less beloved than Ben Roethlisberger. It's not 229 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: just in the a f C. North. I think he's 230 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: been an underrated player for much of his career. I 231 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: don't think people understood that he was a legit top 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: five guy for a long stretch when they weren't winning 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I think was when he played his very 234 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: best super Bowl. But by now he's he's an example 235 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: of of hanging out a year too long and and 236 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: not being very fun to watch. And they're trying to 237 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: have a Kobe's Last Game type of field to this, 238 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: Kobe puts up fifty shots in his last game, except 239 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Kobe was awesome. Uh. Ben Roethlisberger drops back to past 240 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: forty eight times and they end up with a hundred 241 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: nine passing yards. No one in the history of the 242 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: NFL has ever had fewer yards passing throwing the ball 243 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: forty five times than Ben Roethlisberger, and that yet he 244 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: gets put the lipstick on the pig at the end 245 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: and say, well, it hasn't been pretty for me for 246 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: much of my career. Um, but we got the win, 247 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: and that's what my career has been about. It's like, 248 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: no Ben Roethlisberger, as as a passer and as an 249 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: offense has been pretty. I know they want some like 250 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: defensive games and everything, but this is a different Steelers team. 251 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: It's a it's a bad offense. It was. It was 252 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: a tough, tough watch for for everyone, I think, right. 253 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know Steelers fans like enjoyed 254 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: that they want and it was cool. It's definitely like 255 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: a great moment, but it was also like one of 256 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the worst games, if not the worst statistical game of 257 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: his entire career. Yeah, but I but I think, like 258 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I think from the macro, like that the no one 259 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: expected the Steelers to explode offensively suddenly in a vacuum 260 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: last night. I mean, they did what they needed to do. 261 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: They got just enough to win the game, and it's 262 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: more a ceremonial moment. I'm with you that I think 263 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: that it's hard to find a quarterback that is as 264 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: celebrated in one's hometown and has had such a storied 265 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. Um, in arguably, who doesn't move 266 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: the needle in terms of like any sort of emotional 267 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: happiness in most other cities. UM, I think maybe even 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: it's the Browns fan or the Bengals, a Ravens fan 269 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: who feels a little bit more about the event because 270 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: of what Big Ben has meant in Cleveland's life, for instance, 271 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: like they should have drafted him and and they've paid 272 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: the price for, you know, sixteen seventeen years since for 273 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: not having done that. It's kind of like watching from 274 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: a Browns fan angle watching John Elwig go out, or 275 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: watching you know, someone that just terrorized you, and at 276 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: the end you kind of I'm not saying respect, you 277 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: kind of say, I kind of just gotta take my 278 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: hat off to the way this team is run because 279 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: it's so counter to what most other teams were doing, 280 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: and especially my own. Yeah, I would say, like my 281 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: general thought is like, well, if you weren't really taken 282 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: aback by the drama around the end of the game, 283 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: well that's who cares. It's not for you, that was 284 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: for the Steelers and their fan base and Big Ben 285 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: and all the people that have cared about that UH 286 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: team for the past twenty years. And I think there 287 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: should be a good amount of respect for you know, 288 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: take out the off the field stuff. Just as a player, 289 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do. He's never gonna he's 290 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: gonna go an entire season without a losing season. He 291 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, the fact that they have multiple Super Bowl rings. 292 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: They are always in the mix. And at the same time, 293 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: like you mentioned Kobe, because I agree, I think Tomlin 294 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: is trying to give him his Kobe moment against the Jazz. 295 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: And I remember watching that Kobe game and he scored 296 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: sixty points on a butt ton of shots to get 297 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: to sixty fifty shots to get sixty points. But he 298 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: hit a lot of big shots in the game, and 299 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: he was doing on muscle memory with his jump shot. 300 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: UH Ben doesn't have that. There's no muscle memory anymore 301 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: for Ben Roethlisberg. He's just shot, period. So turn into 302 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: the game. I thought it was notable that on a 303 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: day where Big Ben average two points seven yards per 304 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: per attempt, which is unheard of, two point seven, it's 305 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: like half of the Gabbard zone. It was naj Harris, 306 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: who's really been grinding out a good rookie season on 307 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: a not very good offense. And it was again t J. 308 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Watt with the four sacks uh and completely obliterating the 309 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland offensive line and Baker Mayfield for the nine sacks, 310 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: and it's just a domination of Cleveland. Mark. I'm curious 311 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: where where you come down on the Browns here, because, um, 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: they certainly seem a little flat to me. I guess 313 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: that's to be understood. They were eliminated from the playoffs 314 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: the day before, but you kind of hope that they 315 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: were gonna come with a little more fighting this game. 316 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: And then there's the familiar question now of what is 317 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski doing with his best player in offense, Nick Chubb, 318 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: who had had five carries in the first half twelve 319 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: overall against the thirty ranked defense in the league in 320 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: terms of d v o A against the run. Yeah, 321 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, they mentioned that Nick 322 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Chubb was not healthy after the half, but I mean 323 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: that charts back to the Packers game, the way he 324 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: was poorly handled. And you know, from a macro angle, 325 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: you mentioned a year ago at this time where it 326 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: looked like Cleveland might be the next big thing in 327 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: the a f C. And it was like the coach 328 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: is a genius. The front office have no issues to 329 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: deal with, and when they do, they know how to 330 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: handle them. You've got a quarterback that looks like he's 331 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: in the right system and streaking down the you know, 332 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: the tail end of the season, and suddenly let's go 333 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: test ourselves against the Chiefs and see how you are 334 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: against the highest possible power in the a f C. 335 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: And it was like, to me, it was house money. 336 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: You just had a chance to go find out how 337 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: that went. And went into the off season with so 338 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: much hope, but a lot of it had to do 339 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: with vanquishing the Steelers and the optics around Big Ben 340 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: sitting with the pouncy brother shedding tears and thinking we 341 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: might have just broken this team after all these ill events. 342 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: And then a year later you've got the Ravens still 343 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: being the Ravens. The Steelers. I understand there's a lot 344 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: of question marks going into this off season, but you 345 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: just trust them and they basically just embarrassed the Brown's 346 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: team and now it's still look in its own state 347 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: at Cincinnati and say wait a minute. Next maybe the 348 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: next Chiefs are not the Browns but the Bengals, and 349 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: maybe they're going to be hanging around for the next 350 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: sixteen years. So I thought the microcosm of like where 351 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: you were a year ago to how disorganized they were 352 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: last night, and you talk about not protecting the your 353 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: right tackle. James Hudson was a rookie against t J. Watt. 354 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: I feel like, how many times did you watch like 355 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: James Hudson lifting Baker Mayfield off the grass by the 356 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: back of his shoulder pads. It was horrible site. They 357 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: don't adjust. Their offense has been a dead heat for 358 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: two months, and I think everything that was positive a 359 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: year ago you look at the Browns right now and 360 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: say it is raging question marks. It starts at quarterback 361 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: and extends outward. I think you can and we'll talk 362 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: about the Browns a lot in terms of the off season. 363 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: I think they'll feel pretty good about their offensive line, 364 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: their defensive talent, and their coaching staff, and they'll they'll 365 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: want to upgrade at quarterback. I think that's that's the 366 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: direction they're going. But I think that game almost felt 367 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: like an evaluation. I mean, I don't think stefan Ski 368 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: is like, no, only like trying to put Baker in 369 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: a bad spot. But he told Peyton Manning, if they're 370 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: in base, and that's that's what the Patriots did. They 371 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: kept all their heavy personnel on the field, what a 372 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: lot of teams since that Patriots game has done. And 373 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna just man up. And this was the highest 374 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: percentage of man coverage Pittsburgh Steelers have ever played against 375 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. And these aren't great cornerbacks there in Pittsburgh 376 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: for the most part. Um, we are gonna try to 377 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw them out of it. And Peyton Manning 378 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: was being like, I I know that sounds good, but 379 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not a good play on obviously, Like that's 380 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: what you do if you have a competent passing attack, 381 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: but you don't. And they tried to throw them out 382 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: of it. And it was basically the Steelers saying, we 383 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: don't respect Baker Mayfield and you're passing attacking your receivers. 384 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: I think the receivers are part of it. Those aren't 385 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: guys who are ultra dynamic beating people. Uh, we don't 386 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: trust them, and uh try to beat us that way 387 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and they did, and and for many times this year, 388 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Baker in the passing game struggled and it's the same stuff, 389 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Like a lot of those sacks were on Baker. He holds, 390 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: helds the ball forever. He does not make quick decision, 391 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: he doesn't see the field, and these are problems that 392 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: are going back like a while, and they didn't have 393 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: a solution for that. And and the the way that 394 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: he said that he's going to talk to his agent 395 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: and family about whether he plays in week eighteen, I 396 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: thought he's out. He's not very telling. I know he's 397 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: out now the Browns have officially ruled that, but the 398 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: way he said agent and family, it just felt like 399 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: it's the end. He's got a tradeable contract and we 400 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: probably won't see him in Cleveland again. That's see. I'm 401 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: a little torn on that because here's the thing. I 402 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: think I've said this on the podcast. I thought they 403 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: should have put um case Keenum in the in the 404 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: line of weeks ago and we kept on hearing over 405 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: and over again that Baker was compromised physically and wasn't 406 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: able to play at a high level. Well, then maybe 407 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: fixing change things up and your season ends differently, And 408 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: then I think about, if he's indeed is injured, as 409 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: we've been told all year, do you really want to 410 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: cut bait with him now, knowing what he was when 411 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: he was healthy last year down the stretch, what he 412 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: looked like against the Chiefs in the week one before 413 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the injury in week two. UM, I feel like that's 414 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: a dangerous roll of the dice, Like what are you 415 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna bring in Jimmy Garoppolo or something, 416 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna say, now we're better, You're gonna 417 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: swing for the fences. You might it might be the 418 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, which has its own questions, But if that's 419 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: the right move, I don't think that's that's the right move. 420 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's as cut and dry as 421 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: all right, now we get let's kick Baker out the door. 422 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: It might turn out that way, but I think there's 423 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: some risk there as well. They know him so well now, 424 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: they know who he is so well, they know what 425 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: this version is. The guy whose arm is in a 426 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: sling and has beat up all over his body. They 427 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: knew as limitations last year too, and I think they've 428 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: had a long enough time that look if they believe 429 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: in him. They'll believe in him, and maybe he doesn't 430 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: get the contract this year and they will keep him. 431 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: But if they like they've seen enough, whether when you 432 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: was good and when he was bad, because a lot 433 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: of the problems he had now, I don't think you 434 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: can put on on the shoulder. Well all right, but 435 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: I think the shoulder is creating issues that we also 436 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: cannot discern. I mean it, I think it impacted his 437 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: play to Dan to your point, Dan, it's like, fine, 438 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: you want to move on for Baker maybel I think 439 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: the way that happens is because I think he's tradeable 440 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: in terms of a package for you send him to Houston, reverse, 441 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: you send him to Seattle and reverse in a pie 442 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: in the sky scenario that there's an asset there that 443 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: another team could think they could work with. But it 444 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: has to be it's like if there, If he's gone, 445 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: it's because they brought in someone that's simply he cannot 446 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: coexist with. If they can't find that person, and it's 447 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: very possible that Cleveland is not going to get one 448 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: of these two or three like mega star quarterbacks, then 449 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with keeping him around for 450 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: another year. On that fifth year option, because the idea 451 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: of going back to nothing and hoping that you find 452 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: some rookie in the second or third round or like 453 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: God forbid, and this is not you know, if you 454 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: try to fill in the void with a Teddy Bridgewater 455 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: or a Jamis Winston or something like that, I think 456 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: you're cycling and moving and reverse at that point, because 457 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: that's just another year long patch. If anything, Let Baker 458 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: be the one more year long patch and you come 459 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: up with other plans on Teddy. Do you want to 460 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: gamble on Winston? You want to get on a tour? 461 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: Or do you want to gamble on Baker? Like I'll 462 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: take the guy in my building who has given us 463 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: special moments that I know is a high character guy, 464 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: even if the play isn't there. That's just that's how 465 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: I would handle it. But I don't know if there 466 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: might be more going on here behind the scenes at 467 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: this point. You never know. It's just yes, some of 468 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: the things with some of the stories coming out the 469 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: way he said that they but it's a football evaluation. 470 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: If he had all the football traits that they want, 471 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: then he'll be there. And and I think there's no 472 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: chance they go down the Teddy type of route, because 473 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: they'll only get rid of Baker if they have like 474 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: a replacement. But one of the things I watched when 475 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: you see him is just like he's not a quick 476 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: decision maker and does he have And that's fine, like 477 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: neither's Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson, But does he have 478 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: special traits to make up for that? I don't think 479 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: he's He's showing the accuracy might be it, But the 480 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: stat that always gets me, and this is going back 481 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: to his rookie years, he converts pressure into sacks more 482 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: than any quarterback in football. No one takes more unnecessary 483 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: sacks than Baker Mayfield. And that hasn't improved. And it's 484 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: been with three different coaching staffs. Like they have the 485 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth like best pass block win rate this 486 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: year and he's taken those sacks And to me, that's 487 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: like a processing thing. And this staff has had him 488 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: for two years, so I I just think they might 489 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: be done with them and want a different try. Alright, 490 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: So back to Pittsburgh. As I said, they have an 491 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to make the playoffs there eight seven and one. 492 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: They have to take care of the fading Ravens and 493 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: week eighteen and then get a win from the Jaguars 494 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: over the Colts, who, by the way, and this is 495 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: a weird stat and I could save this for the 496 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: preview show, but since we're mentioning it right now, everyone 497 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: looks past this coach Jaguars game, when rightfully so did 498 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: Aggs are on another terrible losing streak. They're the worst 499 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: team in football. But the Cults are a little weird. 500 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: It is a little bit of a weird team with 501 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's not to be trusted. And the Jaguars 502 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: home record since two thousand fifteen, uh six and oh 503 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: against the Colts fifteen and thirty five against everyone else. 504 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Just you know, just a little food for thought. I'm 505 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: not saying there's gonna be an upset of the century, 506 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: but just thrown it in there. You dialed up some 507 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: um precision prognostications a week ago. Maybe you you know 508 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: this is the next version of it. You can't help 509 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: what comes into your head. You just you cannot help 510 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: it when you become a crystal ball man. You know 511 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: they could lose thirty one to three. Earlier this season, 512 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to the Colts in a game that I've 513 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: never seen a quarterback play worse than Carson Wentz did 514 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: in the thirty one to three victories. I don't know 515 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: if that's a positive for the Jaguars or a negative. 516 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: I would say it's a negative that you had a 517 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: good day against Carson Wentz and still lost, is correct. 518 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: But plus they're going to in one. Mark has the 519 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: Sandwiches on it. He had to be feeling mixed feelings 520 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: last night because, um, you know, the Steelers, Okay, they 521 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: got to their eight wins. Now, I could see them 522 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: losing to the Ravens certainly next this week and and 523 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: get into eight and one. Eight and one was up here. 524 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, anything to do with the Browns was down here. 525 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: So I like my main goal remains intact here. It 526 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: is funny that, like the whole thing was, you know, 527 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: it was his last home game either way, but it 528 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: really was like a goodbye and this and that. Like 529 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs, like everyone's it's so disrespectful of the Jaguars. 530 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's just assuming the Steelers like have no chance. Even 531 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: the Steelers are assuming they like have no chance to 532 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It seems by those respect Greg absolutely, 533 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I respect the last thing on I do want to 534 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: circle back one last thing on Ben. There is something 535 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: funny about Ben. We've talked a guess always so long. 536 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess had three final points, 537 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: so like here it comes fourth. This Ben thing like 538 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: the reason we would make fun of him through out 539 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: the course of his career and is like he always 540 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: makes it about Ben as much as possible. Right, it 541 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: didn't you even feel like the end, like the end 542 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: of that game, the way it happened, that he's all 543 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: out there by himself, there's no team, there's no nothing 544 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: that it just was like and it was. It was great, 545 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: but it also was very Ben Roethlisberger. There was something 546 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: about it that was like, this is the perfect ending 547 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: for like where the Bed Roethlisberger career has come. Like 548 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: he was out on that field for a solid twenty 549 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: five minutes and no like no one else was there. Greg, 550 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: you feel good about yourself in there? I mean, who 551 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: are we defending here? Likedending anyone. It's just you had 552 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: to come in with one last shot on the guy. 553 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I think he's not a shot on the guy. Like 554 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: you've seen this happen before, though, and those endings did 555 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: not happen in that same way with other players. It 556 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: is very different. Tom called it the most like emotionally 557 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: packed atmosphere he's ever been a part of in a 558 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: regular season out. I'm just I'm not saying I was 559 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: saying you can't find the comedy in the end. I mean, 560 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: like in the ending sequence afterwards, it was it was 561 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of commy. He went back to the 562 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: bench that he talked to Markus Pouncy took the pictures 563 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: there for a while. I mean, I mean, I don't 564 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: feel that, I don't feel that you're necessarily coming from 565 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: the world of comedy with this um slashing a big bend. 566 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: But I I'm not saying this a likable character. No 567 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: one's saying, Wow, this is the guy that we all 568 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: feel this about in our hearts. It's just like, I 569 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: kind of get it for the city of Pittsburgh. All Right, 570 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: They had their night, like if I can allow them 571 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: that way off the field, like what was your what 572 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: left you underwhelmed? Because he did celebrate with his teammates 573 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: immediately after the game, and then he was surrounded by 574 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: no joke thirty photographers and cameramen, so kind of created 575 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: a natural bubble around. It wasn't so much underwhelmed as 576 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: the twenty minutes that went on afterwards where he just 577 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: was literally the only player on the field and ESPN 578 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: after a while, I was like, shoot, we gotta go 579 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: to commercial. At some point, like Peyton Manning was joking 580 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: that like Eli was going to fall asleep if he 581 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: took another lap around or whatever. It just to retreat 582 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: to the locker room, the shower, do his press availability 583 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: and then getting his suv and leave. But it wasn't 584 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: for you, Greg, It was not for you. That's why 585 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: you don't understand it and you're picking at it. It 586 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: was for them, not you. I get it. I get 587 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: that it was I think you can find it some 588 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: humor in it over the years of like, this is 589 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: a guy who, like you know, immediately after multiple actual 590 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: assault allegations, started posting like things about being religious and 591 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: went to the thing. You know, it's like a I think, Greg, 592 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: his entire um, his entire existence is not for you 593 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: because there's there's so many things about Big Ben that 594 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: you either um, you know, we all rail against certain 595 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: things that he did, and no one's saying, Wow, that's 596 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: what we're celebrating at all. So like if listening to this, 597 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: don't calm us come at us with that nonsense. But Greg, 598 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Greg nailed the take that Ben loathsome individual and Dan 599 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: and Mark and he is also famously one of the 600 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: least like teammates. Um that there's ever I know. But 601 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Greg that you suddenly care about teammates liking anyone, 602 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like that applies to critique of 603 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: other players that are disliked by teammates. Is that really 604 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: that's Is that something that you value highly? I've never 605 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: really felt I just don't value like everyone has to 606 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: line up and be like like t J. Watt was 607 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: so inspired by playing for Ben that he got his 608 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: four sacks and they were really trying to like like 609 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: shoehorn this thing that it's all for that it was. 610 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Of course it's like a huge emotional night. But we 611 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: can we can be real about it. Do you have 612 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: anything else to add? Greg? Now I think that's good 613 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: With that said, Are we taking a break, Ricky? Let's 614 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: take a break? All right? It is two thousand twenty two. 615 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: How about that? How about that we started this podcast 616 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: in two thousand? How about that? Another another notable factoid 617 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: you're that's I was. I was talking to a someone 618 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: who helps me with a certain career um related um prognostications. 619 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: None of that made sense, No, it was it was 620 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: just like my agent person and she said, she said, 621 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: you guys are coming up on your tenth season. Like, 622 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: is the NFL blowing that out? I was like, no, 623 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they know that. We've been doing it 624 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: for ten years. Oh okay, whence you're one thousandth episode. 625 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: I think it was like a year and a half ago. 626 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on over there? It? I don't know. 627 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knows. Does anybody know? Well, it's 628 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: you mean, it's not it's not overly celebrated. Let's start there. 629 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: You get that when it's when it's the final show 630 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: and we're, you know, averaging two point seven yards per 631 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: take or whatever, and you can run around the field 632 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: and make it all about us that I hope we 633 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: are around long enough for two point seven yards per take? Wait, 634 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: do you guys want to do this show? Would you 635 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: guys rather do the show for twenty more years? And 636 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: the last year and a half to two years is 637 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: two point seven yards per take or do it for 638 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: another four years at six point eight yards per take. 639 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: I would take the ladder. I'd rather be you know, 640 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: as close to pristine as possible for a shorter amount 641 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: of time than I'm gonna stretch this thing out six 642 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: point eight like a lot. No, that's not even good. 643 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: That that's below average, even to waiting in the Ricky. 644 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: I think we're in decline. We're in a gradual decline. 645 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: I'll take the stretching out because I mean, either way, 646 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: this is all, you know, this is all I could 647 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: do for the rest of my life. Uh is you know, 648 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: some sort of football things. So I gotta gotta feed 649 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: the family here. Yeah, we're in too deep now That 650 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty years feels um, that feels extensive. I transposed the numbers, 651 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: by the way, I met eight points six yards per take. Okay, 652 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: that would be good. Yeah, I was thinking that to 653 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: watch them last night. It's depressing. But you men always 654 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: getting your numbers wrong. It is depressing to think of 655 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: the difference in in Steelers Brown's games and moments from 656 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: a year ago, which you know, was a great moment. 657 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Having Chris for one of the last times he was 658 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: on the show and we all enjoyed that playoff win 659 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: together to this year is a steep is a steep fall? Yeah? No, Well, 660 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: I I you know, Chris was as everyone knows, you know, 661 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: the up and down, mostly down love affair he had 662 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I can't stop thinking about Cincinnati's the most 663 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: fun team in the league this year. And how I 664 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: would ask him, like legitimately once every like five shows, 665 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: whether he's ever come back to the Bengals or is 666 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: this the time or maybe if this happens, would you? 667 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: And he was always steadfast and no, And yet I 668 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: wonder if I asked him now and now West, Let's 669 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: not forget it was a very stubborn man. And maybe 670 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: even if he wanted to, he wouldn't, just because at 671 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: that point he had said for so long that he 672 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: never would. But I wonder if he would have truly 673 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: warmed up the idea of supporting the Bangles again and 674 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: more of a fan capacity given everything that's happened over 675 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of months. I wondered too, because I 676 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of it if you go back in detail, 677 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: look at that thing finder of why he was out 678 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: on the Bengals. I think one reason that he might 679 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: not budge is. It had to do so much with 680 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: ownership that he probably trusts ownership to screw all this 681 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: up at some point. Yet he is he is someone 682 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: that would be married, would have a child. Becoming a 683 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: football fan Cincinnati checks so many different boxes about the 684 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: way that football has played that West enjoyed. It does 685 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: bringing you back to something special that maybe you know 686 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: he always talked about evolving and changing. I mean, we 687 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: just don't know what he would do. But this Bengals 688 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: team is not like that Andy Dalton team winning twelve 689 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: games and going to the playoffs, where I think that 690 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: any real expectations, you'd see what that team really is. 691 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: This feels entirely different to me. He already loved watching 692 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow play I think he'd love watching them play ball. 693 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if he had, you know, admitted that 694 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: he's just full on fan, but he would like this team. 695 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: There's just no way around. Well, and also to that point, 696 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: young Link West in some ways kind of felt like 697 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: he also aged out of being a fan. But when 698 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: it's time to introduce Link to a team, absolutely get 699 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: your son involved. Because Lakisha, of course a rams fan 700 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: of die Hard. If West was here, maybe he'd be 701 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: pushing the boy towards the Bengals. Keisha just posted on 702 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: Instagram that after this past weekend, she bought link a 703 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Bengals teacher. Here we go. So she's a great mom, 704 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: great mom. Alright, we missed Chris. I'll tell you what. 705 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: This has been a really weird year. Obviously, so much crazy, 706 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: so many crazy things have happened. But I cannot stop 707 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: thinking of of the man this weekend. And you know, 708 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: I sent it to the text chain of UM that 709 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: we're all on uh New Year's that happened five years ago, 710 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: now where we all we're in different places. And then 711 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: we all said, all right, let's after midnight, let's all 712 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: meet at the cozy. And I remember getting there and 713 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: West was there in a bathrobe, Um at twelve thirty 714 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: five in the morning on New Year's Day, Uh, feeling 715 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: zero pain like everyone else us. But when West was 716 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: feeling no pain on a night on the town. Uh, Mark, 717 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: you're kind of similar in this way. But like West, 718 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: I think about it now because he's no longer with us, 719 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: but you saw it in his face, like he didn't 720 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: have to say anything. You just saw him and says 721 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a half grin. His eyes 722 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: were a little bit more closed and um, he was 723 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: probably yelling more um, but just the look of him, 724 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: it was just a man that was a piece of 725 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: having a good time. So well. I think West and 726 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: I saw that in each other's faces more than once, um, 727 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: when we were in you know, Duelian piano players on 728 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: out on the town. Yeah. I think this this time 729 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: of year, going through the holiday, is going into the 730 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: new year for the first time without him, and I 731 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: think going to the I think the super Bowl week 732 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: will be tough. We'll be coming up on on the 733 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: year anniversary. I really felt that that game we went 734 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: to the Chargers, I was in a crappy mood because 735 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: walking over to that stadium that night, I was like, 736 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: I really felt him not being there, like us going 737 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: to a game like that, and well we'll feel that, uh, 738 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: we'll feel that in the super Bowl week. I think, 739 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: like for me, one little thing, like it's like all 740 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: it football does remind me of West, but it's mostly 741 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: like the lack of West in everything that we do, 742 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: and every season is sort of similar. But it's all 743 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: these other little moments that happened, like weirdly on like 744 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Saturday at even fifteen am, as I'm searching through my 745 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: phone and seeing photos from old or just thinking about 746 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: his voice or his laughs. I mean, it's just like 747 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: there's no, um, real roadmap to feel that this won't 748 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: be with you forever. Yep, I needed him backing me 749 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: up on this ben thing. No one would have been 750 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, he would have been on my side of 751 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: that one. No one but you. You're already creating this 752 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: thing where Greg is in a moralistic correct room and 753 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: Dan and Mark must be in the other room. And 754 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: where do you think we're simply calling it a sports event, 755 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: a moment of sports that I don't want to go 756 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: back to that I'm saying West disagreed with me about 757 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: most everything, but that's one where we parked their cars 758 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: still would have been savaging you over your Antonio Brown 759 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: UM fandom and a new protecting the New England Patriots. 760 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: That was. That was a tough two weeks, right, all right, 761 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: let's get to it what we're looking forward to in 762 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: um Yeah, let's keep it optimistic here, Um, Greg, do 763 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: you want to get us going? I do. It's a 764 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: perfect one for the conversation we were just having it. 765 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: It's it's this Tom Brady playoff run that I'm looking 766 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: forward to. Um, I just think Tom Brady with limitations. 767 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: He's he's a little bit of a b story right 768 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: now in terms of the NFL. But is like the 769 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: is the Tom Brady that I find fascinating that that 770 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: touchdown drive to beat the Jets. It's one of the 771 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: best game winning touchdown drives of his career. It was 772 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: an amazing moment because it came against the Jets, and 773 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: people weren't watching that game and people put it on 774 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: the opponent or whatever, like like you want an MVP moment, 775 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: that's an m v P moment. They had the ball, 776 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: first of all, they had to go to ninety three yards. 777 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: Second of all, they had a ball with no time 778 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: outs on the thirties seventy yards to go. The ball, 779 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: ever goes out of bounds three straight plays, and he's 780 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: turning Cyril Grayson and Brashad Perriman into game winners during 781 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: this stretch. Like that's Tom Brady in a nutshell. And 782 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: I think there's this idea that the Bucks are in 783 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: in such a tough spot without Godwin or Brown. But 784 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: that's when Brady often does his best work. He's still 785 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: got that offensive line, he's still got that coaching staff, 786 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: he's still got that championship DNA, and he's doing it 787 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: in a different way with like big time plays. He's 788 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: making more big time throws now uh than he ever has. 789 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: He's leading the NFL and big time throws first time ever. 790 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: PFF's track that you know, his entire career. It basically 791 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: just like their their addition and I kind of chart 792 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: ones like that of just like an incredible like plus 793 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: two type of play where it's like you've just made 794 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: an incredible throw that like very few because they're a 795 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: yardage component. No, No, it's basically like an incredible play 796 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: that you're making on your own and like could you 797 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: be could you be bowled over by like a five 798 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: yard screen pass where he did it without looking now 799 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: because on the year and that's like I like it 800 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: a little better than touchdown at interception ratio. But like 801 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: that moment and his like reaction to that moment was 802 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: it just got me thinking about, like the season starts 803 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: now for a defending champion type of team like the Bucks, 804 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward to seeing like what they 805 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: can do in this repeat. I'm with you, Greg, and 806 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: it's like I haven't understood. I don't understand it, Like 807 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: I understand the Godwin injury. That's tough. Antonio Brown being 808 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: out the door whatever. I think they won the Super 809 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: Bowl last year with or without Antonio Brown. Um, and 810 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: he's a head case, so getting him out of the 811 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: building could end up being a net positive for them. UM. 812 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: I moved him up a spot into the number three 813 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: in the power Rings this week, and Matt money Smith 814 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: pushed back on our show today saying, how can you 815 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: do that? They should have been beat by the Jets. Well, 816 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: they didn't get beat and it's because of Tom Brady. 817 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: And it's like the the idea that anybody would doubt 818 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: this team, um, considering their recent pedigree. They're the defending 819 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions for Christ's sake, and the fact that 820 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: Brady is playing, as Greg notes, as better as as 821 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: well as he ever has. So uh. They have a 822 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: good coaching staff, they have a really good defense. They 823 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: have still have plenty of skill player players on offense. 824 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna get more healthy, hopefully. Do not sleep on 825 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: this team. It doesn't make any sense why you would. Well, 826 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's sleeping on them. I think for me, 827 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,479 Speaker 1: if anything, the Bucks were And we kind of said 828 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: it in different ways on our on our Friday television show. 829 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: It's like, why are we like um struggling to kind 830 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: of connect with the Bucks as sort of where they 831 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: are in history and who they are because they were 832 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: so everything was so perfect, they were drama free. They 833 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of went from last year into this year with 834 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: so much consistency and just kept it going. But now 835 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: I find them more intriguing because there are players out 836 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: because suddenly you've got Brady at the Ages at I 837 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: think being discounted a little bit as an m v 838 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: P because you've got Aaron Rodgers sitting out there. Everyone's 839 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: trying to look around Tom Brady. Maybe we give it 840 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: to a wide receiver, we give the Jonathan Taylor. It's like, 841 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: what Brady is doing is incredible, and if he goes 842 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: and does it again with a shortened roster on offense, 843 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: because I do think there's a reason they fell into 844 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: a hole against the Jets there too, that it is 845 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: that that much more impressive. And for all the people 846 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: that don't like the Big Bend celebration, this is something 847 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: that would be I think more universally a sports moment 848 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: that would crescendo into something as memorable as we've seen 849 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't know about that. A lot 850 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: of people don't wait for Tom Brady to win two 851 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: straight Super Bowls with the Bucks. It is Rady. I'm 852 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: excited as a Brady fan to see let's say they 853 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: play that. That's like the Eagles first round, they get 854 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: past that, like whatever, That second and possibly third NFC 855 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: game for Brady to me in this like repeat mode 856 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: with to me, that's just so fascinating, like versus the Cowboys, 857 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: or him versus the Rams, or him versus the Packers. 858 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: It's just like that A is fook. That is awesome. 859 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: The truck the minute, we're suggesting that if he were 860 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: to win a second Super Bowl with the Bucks, after 861 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: everything he did at his age, that that's an underwhelming 862 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: or just an average sports I guess. I mean it's 863 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: a matter of opinion, Like I've already for me, the 864 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 1: Tom Brady story has been written. He's the best quarterback ever, 865 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: He's won seven titles or whatever the hell it is 866 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: at this point. Um, if he wins another one, it 867 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: doesn't really change I already what he's already done when 868 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: he did last year to me was the cherry on top. 869 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: So I kind of rather have fresh storylines and fresh 870 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: champions and fresh blood at this stage. But also I 871 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: didn't grow up a Patriots fan, and I don't I 872 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: guess need more validations different. Would it be different than 873 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: him throwing five interceptions in Green Bay and they go 874 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: down forty five to three and the whole thing breaks 875 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: apart in the off season, I think they would be 876 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: tangibly different the two end results. Yeah, I don't. I 877 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: don't see that happening. I I mean, I'm trying to 878 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: talk to like it's like I'm trying to talk to you, 879 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: talk to you into like a bizarre like UFO cult 880 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: religion to get excited about Tom Brady too. So I 881 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: see that a lot of people are excited about Tom Brady, 882 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: and uh, you know they don't. You don't need me 883 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. So good luck to Tom. I'm sure 884 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure he needs it. Um. I actually I fear 885 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: going back down this road because it will us set 886 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: gig off with his agenda and his religious um. But 887 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the Steelers because last 888 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: watching the game yesterday, um Man, I'm looking forward to 889 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: a fresh start for the Steelers, who are a primetime darling, 890 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: so you know, they are a part of the national 891 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: product that the NFL puts out every year. They're always 892 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: in the mix because they're well run organizations, so they're 893 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: always in the playoff mix, so they're not really getting 894 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: flexed out of the games. Typically they get to the 895 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: playoffs all the time. They might even get to the 896 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: playoffs this year, although that probably won't happen. But all 897 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: that primetime love has become a double edged sword for 898 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: the rest of us non Steelers fans who don't see 899 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: Big Ben as a local hero and are sick of 900 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: watching boring football involving the Pittsburgh Steelers, and and given 901 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: the core that's in place, they have so many talented 902 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: players in their primes still Pittsburgh, it makes all the 903 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: sense in the world for the Steelers to make a 904 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: big splash move this offseas. And uh, they aren't going 905 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: to start a rookie next year. They are not going 906 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: to start Mason Rudolph next year. So the question becomes, 907 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: who is there, Matt Stafford, who is the guy they're 908 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: going to target to bring in and get them over 909 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: the hump and get them back to the playoffs and 910 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 1: back and back to the super Bowl. I look forward 911 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: to it because it affects all of us because the 912 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: Steelers are a national team. Yeah, they're not like rebuilding, 913 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: that's not who are It's amazing that Tomlin is gonna 914 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: keep that record of never having a losing season, Like 915 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: he's clinched that much. Now. They aren't the type that 916 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: it's traditionally made big splashes, but I think trades are different. 917 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: The problem is, as Browns are going to realize too, 918 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: is there's just a lot of these teams out there, 919 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: like Carolina, Washington, New Orleans is going to be incredibly 920 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: motivated UM and willing to give up picks so that 921 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: there's more teams than there are are the guys. Let's 922 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: figure this out. Who are guys that that are the 923 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: the Stafford or the stafford S type player Deshaun Watson, 924 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: who again is in his own category, but he obviously 925 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: is a player. When you talk about the quarterbacks in two, Um, Baker, 926 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: there's the worst case scenario mark not that it would 927 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: ever happen, but somehow Baker goes to Pittsurburgh and becomes 928 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: a star. We that that's not gonna happen, but imagine 929 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: to see that Jimmy g I think to of makes 930 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: sense as a guy that might have some value and 931 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: could be moved if Miami goes in a different direction. 932 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: Is there another What about maybe Matt Ryan? I just 933 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 1: I don't love the idea of I've been quating Matt 934 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: Ryan to Matt Russell, but I mean Russell Wilson's the 935 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: one that I you know, you're not sure how that'll 936 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: play out, but it sure feels like that would be 937 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: the Stafford move to the Stafford move. And then I 938 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: don't I have never bought that Rogers would be an 939 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: ex packer, and now I really don't buy it. I 940 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: think that's all set. Yeah, Um, anyway, so keep an 941 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: eye on that because Pittsburgh's going to make a move 942 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: and it won't be a it won't be a minor 943 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: wave there. You they don't usually do stuff like that, 944 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: But that's gonna happen this offseason, I believe Mark. How 945 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: about you? All right? Well, I would I would mention 946 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers thing real quick because I think it 947 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: would show um a it would be a service to 948 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: us all if Aaron Rodgers actually says what he's gonna do. 949 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: What if he does what he says he's gonna do, 950 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: which is to make this decision about whether or not 951 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's toying potentially with retirement, toying potentially with 952 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: moving on from the packers, whatever it is that he 953 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: shows the growth to not drag it out for months 954 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: and months. He said he's gonna make a crisp, clean decision. 955 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: I'll believe it, um when I see it. But I 956 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: do think it would help his cue rating the overall 957 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers experience to a maybe number one, realize that 958 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 1: with this wandering eye where you are right now, front office, 959 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: coaching roster, the division you're in, how dominant you've been, 960 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 1: maybe you don't go anywhere. Let's and maybe you tell 961 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: them that and make that clear on like January, like 962 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, February seventh or eighth or ninth, whenever the 963 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ends, and just end that drama. Um, But 964 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: if anything else is going to happen, can we do 965 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: it in a way that doesn't completely hijack um three 966 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: or four months of everyone's lives who tracked this because 967 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: I guess what. It wasn't that entertaining the first time around, 968 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 1: and it will be more tiresome the second. So here's 969 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: a chance to just go do it right, whatever it 970 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: is you're gonna do. I will say, I agree that 971 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: the Rogers thing was overblown last summer, but it did 972 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: give those of us in football media a nice meaty 973 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: bone to chew on during July last year. Like that 974 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: didn't that wasn't the worst that that that was good 975 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: to lead some a blocks for the around the NFL 976 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: broadcast on NFL Network. So um, but I overall, I 977 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: I see your point and I agree, like, let's not 978 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: drag this thing out. Um, I would take I think 979 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: something crazy happening that we're that is unforeseen for this 980 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: to lead to a divorce? Now, doesn't it feel that way? 981 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: More so than him saying that already that he's gonna 982 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: make it quick to me says he's made whatever decision 983 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: it is. Putting that out there indicates, yeah, that he 984 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of knows where this is going. He's probably gonna 985 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: ask for a lot of money. And but as long 986 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: as they're willing um to do that. You know what, 987 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: what a moment last night too when they asked him 988 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: what it was on his bookshelf, and he says, like 989 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 1: Ann Ran, I Ran, It's like it's like every dumb 990 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: guy's idea of what a smart guy would say, or 991 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: like every nineteen year old guys. And if you're if 992 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: you're curious about the general synopsis of that book, the 993 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: book depicts a dystopian United States in which private businesses 994 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: suffer under increasingly burdened some laws and regulations. Uh, that's 995 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: among the the general themes of it, and obviously connect 996 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: he I think he was trying. I've read Atlas Shrugged 997 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: and I've read The fountain Head, and I agree that 998 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: it has been a nineteen year old maybe more of 999 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: a nineteen year olds world. But like they are, I 1000 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: do find them to be good books and have nothing 1001 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: to do with Aaron Rodgers. I don't think it's something 1002 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: that you pick up now out of thin air and 1003 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: be inspired by. But when you're of a certain age, 1004 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: the fountain Head, especially forget Outlas Shrug, The fountain Head 1005 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: is a good read. Just throw that out there, but no, 1006 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, listen that that was a popular take that 1007 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: Atlas Shrug was. It was a very basic choice by Rogers. 1008 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: I was more offended by him casually dropping that he 1009 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: had a lot of French poetry as well, and it's like, dude, 1010 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: you don't speak French. What are we what are we 1011 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: doing here now? To give you the translation, We're all 1012 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: having a ton of fun. Is that how it works? 1013 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: French poetry books are just translated. Yeah, they typically would 1014 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: have like they'd have like, um, the French on one side, 1015 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: in the English translation on the other. Well, I'm like, 1016 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you something that is that this is 1017 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: how the industry works. I know I'm not supporting his 1018 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: reading habits or really making any statement, but are we 1019 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: dismissing anything that's written not in English as a well? 1020 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: I do. I think it's I think it's a little bit. 1021 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: He's not as easy to peg as people want um 1022 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: in the sense that this reputation as like a smart 1023 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: guy and like that has been taken off the books. 1024 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, totally disagree with that. That 1025 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 1: was the point I was gonna make. I think Rodgers 1026 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 1: is a very intelligent guy. Now, you may not agree 1027 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: with his opinions, and they may even be dangerous considering 1028 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: his public platform and the way he's expressing them. But 1029 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: I think Rogers is very highly intelligent individual, which is 1030 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: part of what makes him so frustrating, at least to me, 1031 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: because in some ways I think he's likable, but then 1032 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: the more he talks, the more he kind of drives 1033 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: you crazy. I mean, do you think he's a dumb guy? 1034 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he's I think he's like, yes, 1035 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,439 Speaker 1: I guess I do. I mean when when it comes 1036 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: to football, not when it comes to I mean, he's 1037 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: a he's a genius when it comes to football. Um, 1038 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think so. I think he's pretty easily 1039 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: like misled and that well that's not a sign of 1040 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: like being smart guy necessarily in my mind either. But 1041 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: as he said, he kicked me. He was all about 1042 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: celebrity jeopardy. You know, if you have to play the 1043 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: real thing, he said, he'd get waxed, right, Greg, Do 1044 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: you like anyone? I mean, these aren't hot takes? That 1045 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: that a Rod and Ben Roethlisberger. I was having fun 1046 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: with the choice because she's the like to me, it's 1047 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: tough writing to get through, and it's sort of like 1048 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: almost a cliche of if like if you're a woman 1049 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: and you see that book on a bookshelf. It's like, 1050 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: don't date that guy, you know. That's sort of so 1051 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: it was almost funny that that was the one. It's 1052 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: like a big libertarian. It's a big thing. It's sort 1053 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: of like the rest of society doesn't matter all that. 1054 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: All that matters is yourself, which is, you know, consistent 1055 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: with preach elfishness as a positive concept if you look 1056 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: at it a certain way where most things tell you 1057 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: if you're good, you're not selfish. You don't think of yourself. 1058 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: And a lot of what she was teaching was that 1059 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm not walking around reading it right now. I read 1060 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: it when I was twenty one, and by the way, 1061 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot of girls didn't date me, And it may 1062 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: have been for that reason or a lot of others. 1063 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: I couldn't care less. It's like, I love that we 1064 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: just take things and trash them on whole, and but 1065 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: no one's no one's actually have the people killing this 1066 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: book have never even read two pages of it. That's 1067 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: how things work now, is that if he wants to 1068 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: throw it out there, you can have fun with it. 1069 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's a that's a lousy book. I'm 1070 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: sure he would he would allow that he's If anything, 1071 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: my umbrella argument at the beginning was please wrap it 1072 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: up quickly, Aaron Rodgers. I don't need to hear you 1073 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: all offseason. So I basically agree with everything that you're saying, 1074 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: from the fact that I need less not more of 1075 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: this guy in the summer months. You got another one, Greg. 1076 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Michael Parsons in this playoff run 1077 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: doing things that I haven't seen a defensive player do ever. 1078 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: The fact he was in coverage like twenty times last week, 1079 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: like really defending well, and that when he rushed the 1080 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: pastor he had nine pressures, and like like he is 1081 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: breaking the mold almost more than any defensive player we've 1082 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: ever covered on this show. I feel like there's I 1083 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: don't think there's been another guy like him. And the 1084 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: fact that he's capping this rookie year on an awesome 1085 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. It's gonna be in the playoffs that has 1086 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: a chance to win a super Bowl. Like, sign me up. 1087 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm signed up for next year too, 1088 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like his ceiling is just outrageous. He 1089 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: feels very one of one in what he can do 1090 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: that he can almost play three different positions exceptionally well. Uh, 1091 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that he's on the Cowboys like I 1092 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: like it. I'm with you, Dan Lett, you just like 1093 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: it when the Cowboys are this relevant and this good. 1094 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: It's funny that the amously Jerry Jones, and it was 1095 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: documented on part of some type of documentary. Um. The 1096 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: year they drafted Dac they wanted was it Drew Lock? 1097 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: Who was it was a? Oh Paxton Lynch? The year 1098 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 1: they ended up with Dak Prescott and in the draft 1099 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: they desperately wanted a cornerback, and when the draft didn't 1100 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: shake out the way they hoped it would, they drafted Parsons. 1101 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: So you know, if you give the Cowboys plenty of 1102 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: credit for nailing those two picks that have helped to 1103 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: find the franchise and where it is right now, but 1104 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: it just shows how much luck goes into uh any 1105 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: of these things really, because you could do a lot 1106 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: of self scouting, but sometimes you look into a beautiful 1107 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: pick or something terrible that's neither here nor there. Greg, 1108 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: tell us somebody else you hate? What what is it's 1109 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 1: wrong with you? Guys? I mean these are I'm having 1110 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: fun with. I mean, if you can enjoy that, uh, 1111 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,479 Speaker 1: it just was having on. That's just having fun here. 1112 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 1: Um all right, let me throw one more out there. 1113 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the Washington football team having a 1114 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: name again. I know you guys don't like this. This 1115 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: is an unpopular take. UM the Washington Football team on 1116 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: its website on Tuesday, and that's it will unveil its 1117 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: new name on February two. UM team president Jason Wright said, 1118 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: ah that the team we'll choose the new name or 1119 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: has chosen a new name that will align with our values, 1120 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: carry forth our rich history and represent the region. Now. 1121 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: We love RhoD O world around these parts. Greg builds 1122 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: it brick by brick. It's now NBC Sports The Edge. 1123 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: Adam Clayton. We don't talk about their new name. We 1124 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: don't mention it. UM love their blurbs. You guys want 1125 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: to hear a great wrote a world blurb about this. 1126 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: Please please please After that quote, here's the blurb citing 1127 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: the franchise value. Franchises values after years of sordid allegations 1128 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: against owner Daniel Snyder and his cohorts is questionable at best, 1129 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: but the team will try to use the unveiling to 1130 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: reinvent itself and remove the stigma attached to its former name, 1131 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: the collapsing of its embarrassingly dilapidated stadium, and its third 1132 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: year tradition of losing. There's no word of potato skins 1133 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: is in the running funds and burner blowtorch wreck. Anyway, 1134 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: you should be happy, Dan. They you know, they haven't 1135 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: ruled out keeping w f T as the name, but 1136 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: I think this season, I feel like they needed to 1137 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: have a great season for any chance of it. Yeah, 1138 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: I remember that there. I didn't like that. I always 1139 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: thought what happened like, look at we were talking about 1140 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: was shook on Sunday Show with the Cleveland Indians and 1141 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: baseball becoming the Cleveland Guardians, and and that felt like, 1142 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, it was handled in a smooth way where 1143 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we're the Indians. Okay, this is problematic 1144 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: in the eyes of people. So what we're going to 1145 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: do now is begin the process of changing the name. 1146 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: In the meantime, we're gonna take uh the Wahoo chief 1147 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: Wahoo guy off the uniform. We're gonna emphasize the letter 1148 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: c H. So we're just gonna change some of the branding, 1149 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: but keep the name until it's ready for the transfer 1150 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: and then we go Indians to to Guardians in two 1151 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: I've always thought what Washington did here with this two 1152 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: year gap was a bit of a their own way 1153 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: of silently protesting something they never wanted to do in 1154 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: the first place. Uh, So we're gonna it's kind of 1155 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,959 Speaker 1: to like draw out what they think is an absurdity 1156 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: that they've had to change the name. So now we've 1157 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: done this for two years, and for two years we've 1158 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: all been writing things like the Eagles defeat the football 1159 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: team that I can't believe that's been happening for two years. 1160 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: So bring on whatever it is, the Red Wings or 1161 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: the Imperial Destroyers or whatever whatever the admirals I think 1162 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: has been thrown out there as possibility. Uh, let's bring 1163 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: it back uh to nickname Land so we can move 1164 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: on with our lives. Because this whole thing has been ridiculous. 1165 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's not bring back the Washington Bullets, that failed concept 1166 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: in NBA circles, that doesn't fit anything we're trying to achieve. 1167 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: I do think it matters for me, just aesthetically, like 1168 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,479 Speaker 1: if it's a name that is super clunky, it's gonna 1169 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: be with us for decades. So I am just fingers 1170 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: crossed that it kind of rolls off the tongue of 1171 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: something nice. But no matter what it is, will get 1172 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: used to it and then it just will be that. Oh, 1173 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: and I have no power over it. So you just 1174 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: just get in line and just do what they say. 1175 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: They need some new vibes. They have the fewest amount 1176 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: of playoff wins in the NFL since their current ownership 1177 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: took over the team. Yeah, and there was that report 1178 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: out there. I don't know if you saw that. You 1179 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 1: know that the the barrier fell down and almost crushed 1180 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts at FedEx Field, And there was a report 1181 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: that owe from the Washington organization like came to the 1182 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: aid of the people. Now they refuted that. I want 1183 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that's out there, that side of the story. 1184 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: But like, why all these stories are connected to this team? 1185 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I you know, I complain it all the time about 1186 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: being a Jets fan and mark your up and arms 1187 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: about the Browns letting you down all the time. But like, man, 1188 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: we ate that. No, it's they've got problems, Um, unique 1189 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,959 Speaker 1: to them, There's no doubt about it. Let's take a break, 1190 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: al right, wrap it up, Mark alright, UM, I have 1191 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: a quick I have a like a quick two parter um. 1192 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: The first one a little bit more of a wish casting. 1193 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 1: But I know everyone it's like we were told that 1194 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: it's so um, you know, reprehensible what Antonio Brown did. 1195 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: And I think it's because it's connected to who he is. 1196 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm with you on all that front. Um, 1197 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: he's a he's not a likable character, but separate from 1198 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 1: the person, I found something quite delightful about like mid 1199 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: games suddenly UM player X ripping off garments and clothing 1200 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: and dancing around the visiting h end zone before being 1201 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: taken away and out of our lives. UM. And so 1202 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: I have I have thought up a concept where this 1203 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: would add high stakes to UM fantasy football, to teams 1204 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: in general, to real life. It would be an auto 1205 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: retire red phone, and this happens, and this is a 1206 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: late season thing. It would happen from week fifteen through eighteen, UM, 1207 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: where one team a week is picked out of a lottery, 1208 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: and let's say it's the Tennessee Titans. Then come that 1209 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: game in week fifteen, and this would happen each of 1210 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: the closing weeks, like around mid third quarter, the red 1211 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: phone would ring and any player over the age of 1212 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: thirty who is a non quarterback is eligible to be 1213 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: auto retired by the league at that point, and they 1214 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: have to. They will be taken care of them in 1215 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: abundance financially. Uh. They almost be like the way that 1216 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the mystery relevant is handled, but in a different way 1217 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,040 Speaker 1: where it's like they won't work again. They'll be celebrate it. 1218 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: It's not their choice to retire, but so because it's 1219 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 1: such a positive next step in their life, they must 1220 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: strip down, waiste up, dance around the field, and be 1221 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: taken away in a very celebratory manner. Will never see 1222 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that age thirty player up ever again. It would happen 1223 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: to four players a year. So it's not like going 1224 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: to cause a major like World War two shortage of 1225 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: arms type scenario in sports. But it could be. It 1226 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: could be you never could be your starting cornerback. Who's 1227 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,439 Speaker 1: who's you know, age thirty. It could be a very well, 1228 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, the red phone. It would be picked by 1229 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: random a the team like we have our team wheel, 1230 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: and then inside of that you'd go jersey every eligible 1231 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: jersey number of a player who's over thirty. You spin 1232 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: the wheel and we don't find out till the Red 1233 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: Phone rings, and it's like, what if it's some lost 1234 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: game between two teams, one of them is the Red 1235 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Phone team you were wondering and watching Who's going to 1236 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: be Shotgun to the moon? Basically, I like that. I 1237 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,919 Speaker 1: think it's insane um, which is why I like it. 1238 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about how do you do it? Remember? 1239 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: Remember um, Late Night at the Apollo used to come 1240 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: on after Saturday Night Live, and you know Venerable, Um 1241 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Venerable show that's been going on forever in New York City. 1242 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I think, if you're really bad and the crowd turns 1243 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: on you, I can't remember who it is, is it 1244 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: a clown or but then a guy comes out and 1245 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: dances and kind of kind of shooes the guy off 1246 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: stage or the woman off stage. What if we have 1247 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: something similar to that, a little nod to Late Night 1248 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: at the Apollo and have someone come out out of 1249 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 1: the tunnel and the crowd sees the guy come out, 1250 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: and they're going mad because they're like, who's it gonna be? 1251 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Who's it gonna be? Maybe they're shrieks of maybe it 1252 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: could be Antonio Brown. Maybe absolutely. I mean, you're workshoping 1253 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: and he comes out, and he dances out, and he 1254 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: finds somebody and then kind of escorts them down the 1255 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: tunnel and out of football forever. I mean, I think 1256 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: there's some entertainment value. I think it's a horrible it's 1257 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: a horrify thought for someone who's put their entire life 1258 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: into the sport, and it's it's their way of providing 1259 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: for their family that their career would end in such 1260 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: a public, humiliating, sudden way. But at the same time, 1261 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 1: like market good idea is a good idea, Yeah, I 1262 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: mean I also we would be we would be giving 1263 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: that player benefits and money to match whatever they were 1264 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: making at that point. Um. I do have a second one, 1265 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: real fast, and it's it's that's a squid game element 1266 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: to it, though, where just everyone showing up to work 1267 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: wondering if their career will be killed. But Greg, you 1268 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,479 Speaker 1: seem like someone that would be the most on board 1269 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: with with something this draconian of anyone I know. So 1270 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: I you know, it's we need your ideas on this front. 1271 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: That says a lot about how you feel. Well No, no, 1272 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think that you're you're a but you're 1273 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: a businessman. Well, I don't. I'm not saying that, but 1274 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: my number two, and I mean this sincerely, like like 1275 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: on our last show, like and this happens to me 1276 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: too often, or it happens periodically. We were If there 1277 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: was a director's cut of that show, it would have 1278 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: included me having like a JC caseum like meltdown at 1279 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: one point, aimed primarily at Dan. It was totally ridiculous. 1280 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: And my goal for two is to be is to 1281 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: try to, you know, get past a lot of the 1282 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: nonsense that has happened externally and internally and try to 1283 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 1: just be a little bit quieter of a storm and 1284 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: a little bit less of a nut bag at times, 1285 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and to keep a lid on it. And so I 1286 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: apologized to Dan, but also to the rest of us 1287 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 1: because I think it threw us off our game for 1288 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: a bit. I also was like super foggy headed in 1289 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: a mess and I just should maybe get my act 1290 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: together a little bit better sometimes. So I'm just saying 1291 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: that for well, we you know, it's been a long season. 1292 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 1: We're all sick, not greg Um, but we're all just 1293 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: grinding through it. So happy that we're all together, you know, 1294 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: all right, Howard Gentler, quiet storm I don't know if 1295 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: I'd look forward to that. Maybe a little for your 1296 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: own sake. I would. For your own sake, I would 1297 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: at junctures. Did I say late night at the Apollo. 1298 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: By the way, it's showtime at the Apollo. His name 1299 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: was Howard Sandman, Sins a legend at the Apollo Theater, 1300 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: chasing the bad acts off the stage after crowds booed 1301 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 1: their performance. He did his Apollo routine for seventeen years. 1302 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: He got the nickname Sandman for tap dancing on sand 1303 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: in his performance performances. I don't know if he's still 1304 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 1: with us. I have to look into next Maybe we 1305 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: could get Sandman himself. Why not? I mean that show 1306 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: was had a super unhinged feel. It was the first 1307 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: experience I had as a child watching like a stage 1308 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: act that seemed to have no I mean, it could 1309 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: have gone in any one of forty two directions. After 1310 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Friday Night Videos, we lost We lost sand Man in 1311 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: two thousand three. Rest in peace, sand Man. So we 1312 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: need we need somebody else. But I think this is 1313 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: something I don't know. Do we have to go to 1314 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the league with this? I don't know what I would 1315 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: imagine we'd have to go to the league, will have 1316 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: to be involved off to trade them, something to get 1317 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: rid of a preseason game or something. I don't think 1318 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: they'll be too big of a fan of, you know, 1319 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 1: eliminating four of their careers every years. Maybe have to 1320 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: add a roster spot or something. I don't know, we'll 1321 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 1: figure it out. Um, all right, there you go. Um, Erica, 1322 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: did you have anything you wanted to add? Um, you 1323 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 1: kind of said it. I think looking into the two 1324 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: we were kind of texting the other night about some 1325 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: of our like fun wacky video shoots and fun stuff 1326 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 1: we used to do. And as much as I, you know, 1327 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: love the season, it is feeling pretty routine, I think 1328 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: for all of us, and so I'm really looking forward 1329 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: to the off season when we can all sort of 1330 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: be together, hopefully more often, and sort of flow those 1331 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: creative juices that we usual To that point, why don't 1332 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: you put up one of our old dio is that 1333 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 1: we did should like when we wanted to Dean Sanders 1334 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: personal green room and destroyed it, never allowed back right, 1335 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: and then the next day they had that door locked forever. 1336 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: That was good. That was a good one. You're like, um, 1337 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: one of the most successful college coaches right now. He's 1338 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,719 Speaker 1: he's definitely got a lot of pub Is that team 1339 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: doing well? Ya? Were they like the best season and 1340 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 1: they won They won their their league and bowl game. 1341 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Something about Dion never spoke to the man worked with 1342 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: him technically for ten years. I never saw him, saw 1343 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: him at one talent sum it, never saw him at 1344 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the office. He shouted my name when I during that 1345 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 1: talent something. We were up at some doing some sort 1346 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: of group exercise and I had to write something with 1347 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 1: on a dryer race board and man, he got my 1348 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 1: name wrong. It was my last name. But it was 1349 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: like I knew what he was trying to do and 1350 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: it kind of felt I felt a connection. Wow. He said, 1351 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: what was like sarceler or something. Well, that sounds like 1352 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: we've got Mark cessler on. It's just like, I mean, 1353 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: like you know what it was. But I was like, this, 1354 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: he sees me, he recognizes me. Um, I think he 1355 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 1: sees something and he's obviously a good recruiter. That was 1356 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: also the same talent summit where you know, I saw 1357 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: my TV a couple of days earlier and he had 1358 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 1: a completely shaved dome and then he showed up at 1359 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 1: the talent summit and he had like Julius Irving's hair 1360 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: on the nets in nineteen seventy six, and I was like, wow, hair, 1361 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: it really came in pretty full there, very dents, right. 1362 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: And then money. He's a good thing, all right, he 1363 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,720 Speaker 1: said it, you know, his money for all of us 1364 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: in how about that? Like that. My sister, my sister 1365 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Shay actually owned Dion Sanders is um cassette single. Um. 1366 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: It was about money. I can't remember what the song was, 1367 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: but it was about money and how awesome it was 1368 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: and it so it got a lot of play in 1369 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the house. As I recall, Must be the Money it 1370 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 1: was called. It was a banger. In fact, Ricky, let's 1371 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: play out the show. It must be the Money, all right, 1372 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of young people that don't know that. 1373 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,839 Speaker 1: Dion and his heyday went for it as a recording 1374 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 1: artist and released the single must be the Money the 1375 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: friends with mc hammer. No doubt I believe he was 1376 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 1: actually all right, let's um, let's go, let's end the show. Um, 1377 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:38,480 Speaker 1: good stuff, We'll be back on Thursday. Video is amazing. 1378 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: They can't cancel us if we just stay recording forever. 1379 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: D there was a time where Dion ruled the world. Um, 1380 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back on Thursday with a preview of Week eighteen. 1381 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 1: We've never done a Week eight team preview. It happens 1382 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: in two days. To make sure you're there for that. 1383 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: UM and until then, eat the turn eating man. When 1384 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 1: I said I got it, lack the strange things, Shane 1385 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 1: put up that ince for the birst. It's so. I 1386 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: called my mom and she said, Baby, the game. It's 1387 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: got to be because I got to read people. I 1388 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:31,600 Speaker 1: never start about the school game. Having real lax was 1389 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: get on my day. But I got the paper every 1390 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: day of the bay. Doing nothing now to bugle down 1391 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know what's turning down. Mom, damn money, 1392 01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 1: you know what can go wrong? I see feeling, can 1393 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: call him. Must see the line that a memo. It