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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show. Training camp continues. Practice

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Speaker 1: paused ten practices in because the preseason premiere is in

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours forty nine if you want to count kickoff,

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Speaker 1: but forty eight hours from now will be buzzing. The

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Speaker 1: adrenaline will be flowing. Mark Vandermin and John Harris with you.

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Speaker 1: It's always flowing here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: And we'll have Indy kalou on talk to him this morning.

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Speaker 1: Awesome visit. You'll also hear from Tommy Townsend, the putter

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Speaker 1: who is outstanding. He was an All Pro two years

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Speaker 1: ago for the Chiefs, played last year for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ, wants to win one. Here we'll hear

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Speaker 1: from him, Johnny. Practice was warm today, It was long.

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Speaker 1: It was not the longest practice of training camp so far.

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Speaker 2: Today, Yes, it was. It was the hottest. It was

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Speaker 2: the longest. It was also the driest. It was the

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Speaker 2: driest it was dry yesterday. I'll take the wet kind.

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Speaker 2: The rainy kind is fine with me. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how they feel about it.

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Speaker 1: But it was warm, it was long, and they got

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Speaker 1: a tremendous workout. Ones went a ton of reps today.

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Speaker 1: You get the feeling they might not be seen on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. But we'll see. Demiko Romes was not telling

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Speaker 1: us anything about that, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna say anything. What was his comment on Monday.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see, and you're not gonna get much. Now,

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Speaker 2: my spidy senses, my football spidy senses, say.

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Speaker 3: You've got three other preseason games to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so get some guys that you a want to

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Speaker 2: get a look at. I feel like there are different

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Speaker 2: categories of guys, guys you want to get a further

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Speaker 2: look at, maybe at a particular position, right, maybe in

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Speaker 2: a particular role. Okay, So you got those guys, then

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Speaker 2: all right, you've got young dudes that just need snaps,

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Speaker 2: they need reps, they need to play NFL football, the rookies,

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Speaker 2: you know those guys. And then some you know, second

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Speaker 2: year guys, maybe guys that are coming off an injury.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what does that guy look like in a game situation?

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Speaker 2: And then you got guys that, all right, we've got

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Speaker 2: to get through sixty minutes of action, so we've got

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Speaker 2: to have guys that can get us all the way

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Speaker 2: through to the end. And what it's our injury situation,

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Speaker 2: and how do those guys kind of all fit? And

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Speaker 2: so I feel like there are different categories of guys.

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Speaker 2: And then of course there's always a category of do

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Speaker 2: we need to even take a chance this guy might

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Speaker 3: Game and get banged up.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I tend to agree with Indy.

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Speaker 2: We had Indie Klue on this morning and Indy was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you gotta see guys play football. I think

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Speaker 2: the one thing that practices allow you to do is

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Speaker 2: control the activity right in a game. You can't got

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Speaker 2: some second year defensive end that is trying to make

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Speaker 2: doing all kinds of things and dives at the leg

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Speaker 2: wait a second. In practice, you can control that a

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Speaker 2: little bit better. So I could see why. I see

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Speaker 2: both sides of it.

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Speaker 3: Guys got to.

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Speaker 2: Play, But I think in this one you you can

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Speaker 2: give a significant number of guys maybe not the night off,

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Speaker 2: play the rookies. How much is Kamari Lasser because it

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Speaker 2: feels like Kamara is and trenched as a starter. I

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Speaker 2: Kamari is a starter. So how much does he play?

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Speaker 2: You want him to get his feet wet and play

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Speaker 2: in for football. But you know they're three more preseason games,

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Speaker 2: right there are three more that you're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: Well, exposure is a word that comes into play here

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna expose the players to possible injuries can

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Speaker 1: also wear and tear. You talk about Lass or any

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Speaker 1: They've gone through the rookie camp, they've gone through the

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Speaker 1: Because they're being developed, they're being baptized into the league.

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Speaker 1: They need to know a lot of stuff. So Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien used to say, they know nothing. Well, they really

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about this league and what they've read

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Speaker 1: but I'm really curious to see how they would handle

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Speaker 1: two preseason games. Can we just go to scrimmages? I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Same See a different color is funny.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Jared Patterson today for you tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: But you know they got a little bit of orange

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Speaker 2: all right, let me just see somebody different. Let me

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Speaker 2: I'm curious whether Kaleb Williams is gonna end up playing.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see him. I mean, obviously we'll see

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Speaker 2: I would imagine as long as he stays healthy, we'll

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Speaker 3: But just seeing some of the things that come out

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Speaker 2: Think people are are pretty pleased with him right now,

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Speaker 2: don't think they'll play everybody. We won't see their wide

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Speaker 3: With Keenan Allen, DJ Moore and Rome Doonsday.

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Speaker 2: But it's good play Chicago. They got three guys going

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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame that were former Bears. Texas

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be really cool.

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Speaker 3: He had one of those teams.

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Speaker 1: Williams had one of those throw across the body throws

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Speaker 1: in camp, one of those viral throws we were talking

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Speaker 1: about this morning in camp where yeah, it's camp. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But the social media crews are just putting

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Speaker 1: this stuff out there like it's Super Bowl twenty five.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know why I went there. You know

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Speaker 1: super Bowl twenty five. The Chicago Bears, Cargo Bears, who

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Speaker 1: we will see on Thursday night in New Orleans. The

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Speaker 1: only way I want to see them in the super

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Speaker 1: for the third time in the super Bowl. That would

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Speaker 1: be cool. But we'll see how Caleb Williams does as

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Speaker 1: a Chicago Bear. Will definitely see him week two, you

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Speaker 1: Outing all right, some individual flowers from today.

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Speaker 3: Ooh good, good segment. Individual flowers for today. You let

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Speaker 3: me go first, Yeah, you go first. Okay, I've got

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Speaker 3: one that I think.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy that continues each and every day to flash, Oh.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna give the same guy I was about to give.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead. Okay, Well, I mean you want me to change,

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Speaker 3: You want me change? I can change. You don't know?

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Speaker 1: How do you know?

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Speaker 2: I know exactly you and I have done radio enough,

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what be the guy number ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh no, that's not the guy I wasna pick.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, CLT. Davis has been really, really good.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned him this morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned him this morning.

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Speaker 2: I went down and watched but I well, I didn't

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Speaker 2: it's the third day I've had a two times that

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Speaker 2: third time he was raining so hard I couldn't write

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Speaker 2: remember typing into my phone. They can't block ninety four today,

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Speaker 2: And he was the Other thing about Khalil which makes

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Speaker 2: Khalil so difficult is you know when guys penetrate defensive

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Speaker 3: So he gives you the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 2: He gives you the penetration, but then he also gives

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Speaker 2: you the fact that he can redirect, so quickly that

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Speaker 2: it's really hard to run against him. There's one play

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Speaker 2: It might have been a power counter, but somebody's pulling

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Speaker 3: Grabbed the blocker.

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Speaker 2: and it's like Klik gets no credit for that play,

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Speaker 3: Well they know that, they know, yeah, absolutely, and that's

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Speaker 3: really cool.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point, a good way of saying right now,

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Speaker 2: I think that as he gets more comfortable in this offense,

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Speaker 2: He's just got that farm toughness set that I like,

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Speaker 2: he's not backing down. I think when I think about

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Speaker 2: There's Joe Mixon, There's Stefan Diggs obviously CJ. But I

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Speaker 2: I just think he's got that physical element that this

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Speaker 1: And I kind of like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this was during Davis Mills reps. Was like team

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Speaker 3: He was all over the place today. I mean he

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Speaker 2: I mean it was a Steph Curry like knocking down

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Speaker 3: So it's like it wasn't just one thing.

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Speaker 1: To He's engaged, and sometimes when you get engaged, it

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Speaker 1: to explained for the young John Lennon was a member

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Speaker 2: So when the coaches sit down and they they want

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Speaker 1: All right, here's what.

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Speaker 3: We're focused on to practice. Here's what we're gonna run.

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Speaker 3: Everything is scripted.

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Speaker 2: You're scripting this play against this defense, and so everybody

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Speaker 3: Today was unscripted.

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Speaker 2: Where you have no idea until idea until it's on

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Speaker 2: You got to see it, especially for Jared at center

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's this.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to know exactly what that look is.

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Speaker 2: is now seeing the defense and oh, okay, it's a

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Speaker 2: little different light. They also worked on backed up. You know,

437
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Speaker 2: you backed up on the goal line, you're coming out,

438
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Speaker 2: you know that can all. That's obviously something you definitely

439
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Speaker 2: got to work on. So they worked on that period

440
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Speaker 2: as well. But I like that unscripted period. And it's

441
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Speaker 2: funny because I'm sure I've known that for years. I

442
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Speaker 2: just have never like, Wow, that's genius. Yeah, and I'm

443
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Speaker 2: scripted period, it's perfect. That's a that's a great period.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I just never heard anybody really talk about Oh yeah,

446
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Speaker 2: this is totally unscripted here, but Jared talked about that,

447
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Speaker 2: and we'll hear a little bit more of that. But

448
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Speaker 2: I also find when an offense kind of struggles, I

449
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Speaker 2: think there's probably some of that. You know, you're getting

450
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Speaker 2: used to adjusting on the fly. Hey, we saw a

451
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Speaker 2: four man surface on the first play. Now we're seeing

452
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Speaker 2: a three man. But you've got to walk up safety here,

453
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Speaker 2: you got to walk up linebacker here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what does that mean?

455
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Speaker 2: And going through that process that you're gonna have to

456
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Speaker 2: go through Durney game, I think is really really cool.

457
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Speaker 2: So they had all kinds of different team periods and

458
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Speaker 2: that was one of them today.

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Speaker 1: Well you mentioned that in that quick or late game

460
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Speaker 1: situation part of practice. It was late in the game,

461
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Speaker 1: late on the clock, I think fifteen seconds left. They're

462
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Speaker 1: about at the twenty five point thirty and they are

463
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Speaker 1: walking up to the line. They're bringing blitz and CJ

464
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Speaker 1: beats it with a nice throat to get him in closer.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

466
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Speaker 1: So they had a couple of ops to get it

467
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Speaker 1: into the end zone closer range. And I just love

468
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Speaker 1: seeing that, love seeing that kind of execution, especially when

469
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Speaker 1: man there are a lot of times this defense they

470
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Speaker 1: are just living in the backfield, and they got to

471
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Speaker 1: find a way. They need Laramie back at practice because

472
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Speaker 1: you brought this up. Once you have Laramie back, then

473
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Speaker 1: you can really evaluate the rest of the line properly

474
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Speaker 1: because Laramie is such a huge part of it. I

475
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Speaker 1: know that they've had to get by without Laramie from

476
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Speaker 1: time to time in the past. But you're gonna have

477
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Speaker 1: Laramie opening Day in Indie and hopefully for the entire

478
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Speaker 1: seventeen games slate. So this is how you want to prepare.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I mean just he's that important. Man, He's

481
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Speaker 3: that good. I know the NFL players put a number

482
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Speaker 3: seventy one on.

483
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Speaker 2: The list, like, come on, man, he's not that When

484
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Speaker 2: it comes to protecting the quarterback in particular, he's as

485
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Speaker 2: good as it gets bodyguard he is. He's absolutely Whitney Houston.

486
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Speaker 2: And so the other night the Bodyguard music came on.

487
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Speaker 2: My son and I were watching something. Yeah, I can't

488
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Speaker 2: remember what it was. We were watching something and and

489
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Speaker 2: I think it was thirty Rock. It was thirty Rock

490
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Speaker 2: because we're going back and watching thirty Rock because we

491
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Speaker 2: missed it when it originally came out. So we're watching

492
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Speaker 2: and there's a moment when the two guys pick up

493
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Speaker 2: Tracy Jordan, Tracy Morgan and they take him out and

494
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Speaker 2: they're playing the Bodyguard theme music.

495
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Speaker 3: And I had to explain to Jack why that was

496
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Speaker 3: so funny. You know what that was all about? Man?

497
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Speaker 3: How old is that Bodyguard down?

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Speaker 1: That's like, but she was at her peak.

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Speaker 3: That was the peak power.

500
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Speaker 1: In that movie. Peak power songs amazing. What was the

501
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Speaker 1: one she also did in La I Have Nothing or something.

502
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Speaker 1: I don't know. She did that at a Grammy's or something.

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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal Grenny party. I think incredible?

504
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Speaker 3: Is incredible?

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Speaker 4: All Right?

506
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Speaker 1: That's the Whitney Houston portion of the program coming up,

507
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Speaker 1: and d kalou Let's check in with him. Texans Preseason

508
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Speaker 1: TV got Indi, Johnny and Kevin Kugler in the booth.

509
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Speaker 1: Let's discuss camp and beyond next on Texans Radio. Back

510
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Speaker 1: to it on the show. You know, Texans preseason TV

511
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Speaker 1: coverage is coming up, not for the Hall of Fame

512
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Speaker 1: game that's an ESPN game, but for Pittsburgh for the Giants,

513
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Speaker 1: for the Rams, and our crew consists of Kevin Kugler

514
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Speaker 1: another year with Kevin outstanding talent works for Fox during

515
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Speaker 1: the regular season and d Kalou. He's done a ton

516
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Speaker 1: of games, including last year's preseason slate and Johnny Harris

517
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Speaker 1: will also be in the booth, which is awesome. Shelby

518
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Speaker 1: Coppage on the sideline ND paying us a visit at

519
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Speaker 1: training camp practice today. He was happy to be there.

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Speaker 5: Thank y'all for the big fan. I feel like y'all

521
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Speaker 5: did that just for my big sweat me. He definitely

522
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Speaker 5: did it for you for sure.

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Speaker 2: Indy, you've been through training camp, should go through twelve thirteen, twelve, yes,

524
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Speaker 2: ten days in scale one to ten. If your body

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Speaker 2: is at ten the first day of training camp, what's

526
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Speaker 2: your body on day ten?

527
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Speaker 5: Negative five? And I don't want to be that back

528
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Speaker 5: in my day. But Seth Paine and I were talking

529
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Speaker 5: the training camps aren't the same. I mean, I remember

530
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Speaker 5: in Philadelphia with Andy Reid they would call it hell

531
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Speaker 5: week and the first seven days were true double excuse

532
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Speaker 5: excuse me, true to a day's where we have full pads,

533
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Speaker 5: both practices, so both practices, so you wake up in

534
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Speaker 5: the morning, full pass live periods. You get like a

535
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Speaker 5: three hour nap, then you go back in the afternoon

536
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Speaker 5: and the heat of the day full pass live scrimmage,

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Speaker 5: and you'll do that for the first seven days. And

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Speaker 5: I always remember that seventh day after that first practice,

539
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Speaker 5: the next practice you had shelves were just the shoulder

540
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Speaker 5: pads and shorts. You would think that they gave us

541
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Speaker 5: each a million dollars. We were so happy to take

542
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Speaker 5: the PAM.

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Speaker 4: It's all.

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Speaker 5: So it's a little bit different, but I feel like

545
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: they work smarter now and not so much harder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that CBA didn't help you guys out back then.

547
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Speaker 2: You needed the twenty eleven CBA back in two thousand

548
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Speaker 2: and six.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about that. Indeed, so that

550
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Speaker 1: was designed to what toughen you up? Whatever, does that

551
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Speaker 1: really work? I guess the answer is maybe not. Considering

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Speaker 1: you said they work smarter.

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Speaker 5: Now, I think here's where it worked. It made the

554
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Speaker 5: games and it made the regular season easy. So so

555
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Speaker 5: there'll be times in games two minute drill as a

556
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Speaker 5: defense player you're just dying, and mentally you'll say, you

557
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Speaker 5: know what, I made it through those two a days.

558
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Speaker 5: I made it through six weeks and two days. I

559
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Speaker 5: can make it through this two minute deal, so you

560
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Speaker 5: could revert back to how tough things were and you

561
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Speaker 5: survived it. So it was more mental. And it also

562
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Speaker 5: made you appreciate because we were at Lehigh University, so

563
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Speaker 5: we're staying in these small dorms, living on these cots

564
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Speaker 5: or sore. So when we went back to our facilities,

565
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Speaker 5: we just appreciated things more. So, you know, and I

566
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Speaker 5: don't know how this is sounding or the effect of

567
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Speaker 5: the game, because when I watch the games now on Sundays,

568
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 5: the product is, if not better, just as good. So

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Speaker 5: I don't think that we were doing it better as

570
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Speaker 5: a player. You just appreciated things more because of the

571
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Speaker 5: way our six week training camp went.

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Speaker 3: And at that point, nobody really knew any better.

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Speaker 2: It's like exactly two days because that was what everybody

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Speaker 2: else was doing.

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Speaker 3: You know, if somebody was doing one to day like softies.

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Speaker 5: I will say this is talking about people not knowing

577
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Speaker 5: any better. We did a joint practice with the Buffalo Bills,

578
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Speaker 5: and in the early two thousands they were known for

579
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Speaker 5: having laid back practices, and I'll never forget one of

580
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Speaker 5: their veterans. I can't remember who it was, but it

581
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Speaker 5: was somebody that even I looked up to when I

582
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Speaker 5: was young. I'll never get in that second practice, he

583
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Speaker 5: was like, whoa, whoa, what are y'all doing?

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Speaker 4: We don't practice like that in Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: And this is a player, and he was like, if

586
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Speaker 5: we're gonna do this, we got to figure out the

587
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Speaker 5: way to compromise. And their head coaches kind of shrugged,

588
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Speaker 5: and we loved it. We were like, oh man, this

589
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Speaker 5: is the easiest three days of our lives.

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Speaker 1: That's why they stopped going to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, period.

592
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Speaker 3: For two decades.

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Speaker 2: Soft They spent the second practice looking at Niagara Falls.

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Speaker 3: How did it change? Nd when you come here?

595
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Speaker 2: How much did ten to twelve to fifteen degrees hotter

596
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Speaker 2: make it here versus when you were in Philly other places?

597
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Speaker 5: Just the humidity. It was the humidity that you really

598
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Speaker 5: felt the difference, because I was surprised my first camp

599
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Speaker 5: Lehigh University, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. You know, I'm walking in I'm

600
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Speaker 5: from Texas, I you know, grew up in San Antonio,

601
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Speaker 5: spent the last four of my years in Houston at

602
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Speaker 5: Rice University. This is gonna be easy. And I was

603
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Speaker 5: damn near dying after that first training camp, and they

604
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Speaker 5: said had something to do with the valleys. But after

605
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Speaker 5: you know, spending was nine years on the East Coast

606
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Speaker 5: and finishing my career here in Houston. The one thing

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Speaker 5: that I remember not so much the temperature, but just

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Speaker 5: the humidity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Andy Kalud joining us. Okay, the team is going

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Speaker 1: to watch Andre Johnson. We'll get to the games in

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Speaker 1: a moment. They're gonna watch Andre Johnson get inducted into

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. The entire squad, Demiko's bringing everybody.

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Speaker 1: What does that do for the team.

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Speaker 5: It gives you something to shoot for when you're a

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Speaker 5: young player, when you're a young Tank Dell, when you're

617
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Speaker 5: a young Nico Collins. So if you flip the side

618
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Speaker 5: of the ball, if you're Will Anderson and you see

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Speaker 5: one of the best to ever do it, who did

620
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Speaker 5: it in a Houston Texan uniform, and you have access

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Speaker 5: to him and you watch him get inducted into the

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, it kind of gives you that motivation,

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Speaker 5: something to shoot for when you go into the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of guys won't admit this, but this

625
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 5: isn't even opinion a fact. You want to accomplish three

626
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: things you want to get as much money as you can.

627
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 5: You want to win a Super Bowl, and you want

628
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Speaker 5: to be the best individual player you can be, which

629
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Speaker 5: means a Hall of Fame even as a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 5: It sounds stupid now because I was a role player

631
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Speaker 5: for twelve years, but even as a fifth round pick,

632
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: That's the goal. So for the whole.

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Speaker 5: Team, especially this young team, to see Andre Johnson get inducted,

635
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Speaker 5: and he's still relatively young. They know Andre Johnson. I

636
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Speaker 5: think it's going to motivate the entire team. Demico Rons

637
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Speaker 5: knows what he's doing by bringing the entire team absolutely.

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Speaker 2: When you play twelve years, man, come on, there's there

639
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Speaker 2: people that would dream of playing twelve games in the NFL, and.

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Speaker 3: You lasted for twelve years.

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Speaker 2: These preseason games because you did play, and we've talked

642
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Speaker 2: about this probably a little bit. With these preseason games now,

643
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: the approach is, I guess different for most teams. There's

644
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Speaker 2: only three now the Texas at fourks that have that

645
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game. How did you approach the preseason

646
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: games differently throughout your career as a rookie kind of

647
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Speaker 2: all the way through. Did your approach change as you

648
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Speaker 2: went through just based on kind of your status with

649
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Speaker 2: the team or what your role was with the team.

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Speaker 5: Just what you said the status with the team. So

651
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Speaker 5: early on my first couple of years, when I was

652
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: trying to prove myself, it was literally my super Bowl,

653
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Speaker 5: like going into this first preseason game. For the majority

654
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: of the guys, playing this game is more important than

655
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: any regular season game for them, And what I mean

656
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: by that is this is where they get to show.

657
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: This is where they get to prove whether or not

658
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: they should be part of the fifty three man roster.

659
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 5: So early in my career, I mean, it was headphones on,

660
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: it was eyes closed, don't talk to me before the

661
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: game because I'm trying to prove myself. Then later after

662
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: I signed a five year deal, You're kind of like, okay,

663
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 5: now I could go into this game it just work.

664
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: Like the double swife wasn't my most comfortable move, so

665
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 5: I'd actually go into a game saying, I know it's

666
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: not gonna work, but I'm gonna work this move. So

667
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 5: it gives you more freedom. The more the more you're

668
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: solidified on the roster, the more freedom you have to

669
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: work on what you personally want.

670
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: To work on well. And Denico Autry, the reports came

671
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: out yesterday that he's out six games for performance enhancing substances?

672
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: Is that what they call it?

673
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: PD?

674
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know it was something that he

675
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: just mistakenly took, according to him, whatever the case may be,

676
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: they got to live without him for six games. And

677
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: then you mentioned being a role player for twelve years.

678
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: They put Mario Edwards at the podium. He's listed at

679
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: two eighty. Johnny swears he's got to be three bills

680
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: plus super quick, making play after playout. He's been in

681
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: the league nine years, hasn't started much, but this is

682
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: the kind of player. I'm not saying he's Autrey's replacement,

683
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: but he'll help as they look to short things up.

684
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: What's the secret couple of things to survive in the

685
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: league that long for a player like that, a player

686
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: like you, If there are any similarities and what might

687
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: he be able to do for them?

688
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: You know, just knowing the game mentally, because you're gonna

689
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 5: lose a step, you're not gonna be as strong as

690
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 5: you were in your prime. But when you really know

691
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: and understand the game mentally, and I'm not just talking

692
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: about the playbook, looking at the offensive lineman stance, looking

693
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 5: at any technique that you could pick up, any read

694
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 5: I should say that you can pick up that's gonna

695
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 5: help you out. I think that's the difference, and that's

696
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: what allows guys to play so long. The one year

697
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 5: I was lucky enough to back up Bruce Smith, I

698
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 5: believe he was like thirty eight years old. He was slow,

699
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 5: he wasn't as strong in the weight room, and I

700
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 5: remember thinking, like, I know he's the best ever do

701
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: it when I was watching him work out. But I

702
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 5: remember thinking like, man, how's he gonna be in the

703
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: regular season because it doesn't look like he has still

704
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: And he had like an eleven sax season, And he

705
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: told me all his little clues that he used. It's

706
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 5: like he'll watch the uarter back when he's under center,

707
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: and when the quarterback flexes his fingertips, he's out of

708
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: his stands. So even though he might not be as

709
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: fast as you know the young Whooper snappers, his get

710
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: off is going to be just as effective because he

711
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: knows when to get off. So I think guys like

712
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: Mario Edwards Autrey the reason they're able to play and

713
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: be productive. Is because they learned the little things. Now

714
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: we all know what should happen now that he's out

715
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: six weeks.

716
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: What's that?

717
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: We all know what should happen. Oh, I.

718
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Say it all.

719
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: It's time.

720
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: It's time. Now you think it's time to put the bat.

721
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 5: You gotta call JJ and say, come on, man, we

722
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 5: need your fifteen twenty plays a game. Who's going to

723
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: be better in that role?

724
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: But would you wait a little bit more?

725
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: No, we're not now now. I would.

726
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: I would ask him to sign up now, but obviously

727
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have him out here on a full pad

728
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: of practice at this time. But I want him around

729
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 5: the guys. I want him doing whatever he wants to

730
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: do to get in whatever type of plane shape he.

731
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: Needs to be in.

732
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: And just telling Mike at fifteen twenty maybe twenty five, plays.

733
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: A game and want to playing week one at.

734
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: Indy absolutely, wow, Absolutely.

735
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: Terrorize Indy with JJ Watt week one.

736
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Wow, that'd be fun. I was thinking,

737
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: you wait a little while to see how it's going, injuries,

738
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: whatever the case is, and then let's wear and tear

739
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: on him so you have him for a stretch.

740
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: Run well to Indy's point, the way that the Nico

741
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: Autry is gonna be used is probably the way you

742
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: would use JJ, because I know JJ didn't love going inside,

743
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: but JJ did love to go inside if he was

744
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: one on one on the guard, right, you know, that

745
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: was something that he didn't mind doing because if he

746
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: had a two way go against the guard, he would

747
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: he would whip that guard. And I remember going to

748
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: the Jets in eighteen we had we got the lead

749
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: after hops catch and they put Whitney, Clowney, Watt and Covington.

750
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: It was those four. Well those four.

751
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: You're not gonna put wit or Clowny inside. So what

752
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: goes inside and he just terrorized is the Jets guard and.

753
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Because they had to be aware of the edge is Whitney.

754
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: It's exactly right tough.

755
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: That's what I think with Denico Autry, and I think

756
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: that's one of the things that he does when you

757
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: get in your past rush. And we saw this the

758
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: other day and d You'd see Denil on one side,

759
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Will on the other, Audrey was the other was the

760
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: third guy with a handdown and then Jerry stood up

761
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: and so they were doing some things with Jerry and

762
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: and will on that particular side, so it gives you

763
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: the look of a four man look, but really it's

764
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 2: you know, it's a three man with Jerry who can

765
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: move around a little bit. But the spot den Eko

766
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: is in was the spot that you know JJ. I

767
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: don't really want to fall for it because I would

768
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 2: I kind of fun if he came back, because if

769
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: you added him, when Denico Autry comes back healthy, holy cow,

770
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: what you can do from a past rush perspective.

771
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Well, he'd get a lot of attention. How do you

772
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: think the young guys would react to JJ here? Not

773
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: just JJ in the locker room, JJ playing because that's awesome,

774
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: but the media paying all the attention that they want

775
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: to JJ because he is he is such clickbit you

776
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: post any JJ Watt video. They know the analytics on this.

777
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about digital media, social media. They know, so

778
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna get And I'm not talking about the team's

779
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: internal media. I'm talking about everything and the amount of

780
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: attention that he's going to command, even if he's only

781
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: playing fifteen plays a game.

782
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 5: And I could be wrong on this, you know, way more,

783
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: infinite more when it comes to this.

784
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: I feel like that would be early on.

785
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 5: But the role that I envisioned him, Will Anderson, Danielle Hunter,

786
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 5: they're gonna be the ones leading the team in production.

787
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 5: So I think after that first initial shock of oh

788
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 5: JJ's back, and you know, week three, when we realize, okay,

789
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: he's playing fifteen twenty plays a game, he's adding pressure,

790
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 5: he's helping out Will Anderson. But wow, Will Anderson had

791
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 5: a four SAT game. I feel like that would die down.

792
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 5: And I could be wrong, but I just feel like

793
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: maybe the first week or two everybody will be going crazy.

794
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: But if you think in the locker room, everything's okay.

795
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, all right, absolutely okay.

796
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: So I had so I want to you to think

797
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: about this.

798
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: I want you to think of a music analogy, all right,

799
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Think of somebody who was a lead singer then eventually

800
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: joined a group down the road, E lead singer, E

801
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: lead singers, pretty good, pretty good on his own, her own.

802
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: And then joined the group later on. Is there it's

803
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: always gone the other way.

804
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: We see that the other way.

805
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: A lot does it go the other way.

806
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: My point with that is to to Endy's point is,

807
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: you know, JJ was pretty is an individual. He's he's

808
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: gonna go to the Hall of fame, there's no doubt.

809
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, if he now joins the

810
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: jam band that we've got here with Hunter and with

811
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: Will and with Autry and with Mario Edwards.

812
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Well you're talking super group there. You're talking about like

813
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar, who was a moderate success right joining Van Hammonkase.

814
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

815
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: And they had a lot of success. But then did

816
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Dave Lee come back to the band at some point

817
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: later or they talked about it.

818
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: They never talked about it, but never happened. That's a

819
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: good one.

820
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: I like that one.

821
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: Sammy Hagar going to Van Halen, I like that.

822
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: That's what we do on the radio. Okay.

823
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 5: Then Big Mic going to the Ghetto Boys, Big Yes,

824
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: Big Mic something serious. That solo album Went Hard is

825
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 5: a classic. And then when he joined the Ghetto Boys,

826
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 5: people are like he's from losing Ghetto Boys Houston. When

827
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: you hit play, You're like, ooh, this is a good

828
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 5: fit because he understood his role.

829
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 3: It's exactly right. That's a good one. Yours is better

830
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: than I.

831
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Think back to the Hard Knock season and they showcased

832
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: JJ's knap area in the equipment room and I'm wondering

833
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: if you would have something like that.

834
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: Again and how it would go over. You won't need

835
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: it in October.

836
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: You won't need a nap.

837
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: You won't need it because you got.

838
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Through training camp.

839
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Indeed, we've seen in fact tonight, I think it may

840
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: be the season, maybe the season finale for the hard

841
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: knocks of the Giants, I think. But you've got training

842
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: camp hard knocks with the Giants, you got training camp

843
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: hard knocks with the Bears. Uh, you've got season hard

844
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: knocks with the AFC North. It feels like everybody in

845
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: their brother is being miked up at some point as

846
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: a player.

847
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: How disruptive is that?

848
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: And I know it wasn't as it wasn't as prolific

849
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: back in the days that you were playing, but it's

850
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: becoming more prevalent now. Do you think it's for players

851
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: not a bad thing? Do you think they're accustomed to it?

852
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: How do you think it works for them now?

853
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a bad thing, and I do

854
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 5: think they're accustomed to it, because that's just society in general.

855
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: I mean, way if so many people who aren't athletes

856
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: want celebrities literally recording their everyday lives, so I feel

857
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: like for this generation that's the norm. It still blows

858
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: my mind that people are okay recording every single thing

859
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: that they're doing and everything that they're the same. But

860
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it's disruptive because that's just the world

861
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: we live into.

862
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: That's a great point, and I didn't even think about

863
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: it like that. All right, four preseason games? Got the

864
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game? Should CEJ and the starters play?

865
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: It's not what do you think is gonna happen?

866
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: What would you do? Coach Kalou?

867
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: What are you thinking here as you approach four games

868
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason.

869
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked me this question because I actually

870
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: wanted to get both of y'all's take on this, because

871
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: I know I'm in the minority. I never understood, and

872
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: like I said, I'm in the minority, and maybe my

873
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 5: thought process is wrong when it comes to preseason games.

874
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 5: I never understood why teams are so reluctant to put

875
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 5: a bigger emphasis on preseason games. I had a strength coach,

876
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 5: one of the greats, Dan Riley shout out to D Boyd.

877
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: He would always say when guys would come up to him, like, hey,

878
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: I want to work on this pass us move, what's

879
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 5: the best drill? Or hey, I want to be a

880
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: better wide receiver, what's the best drill? And this is

881
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: a guy, this is how he made his money by

882
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: putting together drills, working us out, and he would always

883
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: say to get better at football, you gotta play football,

884
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: and preseason games are the best way to mimic the

885
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: regular season. So my long drawn out answer Mark is

886
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: I would play my guys as much as possible in

887
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: the preseason games, and then if I feel like I

888
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: need to take something off, I take it off during

889
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: the week of practice, because that's where you get to

890
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: see that fourth or fifth or sixth round pick that

891
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 5: was on the bubble, but when the lights are wrong, he's

892
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 5: an entirely different player. That's where you notice those guys.

893
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 5: And I just feel like the way ninety ninety five

894
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: percent of the way the NFL teams approached the preseason,

895
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: it's just backwards in my opinion. But like I said,

896
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: since I'm part of the minority, maybe I'm going this backwards.

897
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: But I would play C. J.

898
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 5: Stroud, I would play Joe Mix and then for the

899
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: next three days, I'll give them, you know, physical days off,

900
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 5: so they could bounce back physically, but I just feel

901
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 5: like to get better in football, you have to play football.

902
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 5: But teams are afraid to get their guys hurt in

903
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 5: front of everybody, and then people are questioning the decision

904
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: to play them. Where no one questions if somebody gets

905
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 5: hurt during practice, but if they get hurt during the preseason,

906
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 5: then everybody's questioning your decision.

907
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the things that we end

908
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: up seeing we saw with Baltimore last year Mark Jackson

909
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: didn't take a snap in preseason and he was executing

910
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: a new offense. They brought in Todd Mucken, and so he's,

911
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, having to run a new offense against the

912
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: defense that was a lot more spry than people thought

913
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: in our d and they struggled.

914
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: They struggled a lot until the.

915
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: Second half when Lamar made a couple of plays he

916
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: finally started kind of finding a little bit of a rhythm.

917
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: But that offense really didn't start clicking for them for

918
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: two three weeks. So that's the other part of it, too,

919
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: is you speed up the game reps. Game reps speed

920
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: you up, and that gets you a little bit, That

921
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: gets you a little bit better. Now, to your point,

922
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't and I don't think you're saying this, but stroud,

923
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: get a series. Get a series, maybe two, depending on

924
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: if you go three and out, maybe a second series.

925
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: So I'm hesitant because I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm

926
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: I'm just I think the other side, I'm like, oh

927
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: my god, if I get a guy.

928
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: Hurt, like you said, it's why was that guy playing?

929
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: Et cetera.

930
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: But the flip side of that is I've always been

931
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: I've always been on a mindset like you practice football,

932
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: like you've got to hit in practice so that you're

933
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: better hitting and executing in a game. And yeah, I

934
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 2: might wear you down at the end of the year,

935
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: but if you got the right dudes, and you've built

936
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: the right team, then your depth should be able to

937
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: overcome that, you would hope. So I'm kind of I'm

938
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm with ND in this. I don't I'm not playing

939
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm not playing my starters this fourth I get it

940
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: first game. I'm not playing against the Bears. I want

941
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: to do that.

942
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: Today's for those who are listening and they can't see.

943
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 5: Today's a full path practice. So I'm assuming there's gonna

944
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: be some live drill Wow, God forbid. If somebody went

945
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 5: down today, it's just a sad story. But if that

946
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 5: same starter went down during the preseason game, then it's

947
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 5: what was he doing in the preseason game? Preseason games

948
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 5: are just glorified practices. But I just never understood why

949
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: there's not more emphasis on preseason games.

950
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: All right, your thoughts on being in the booth with

951
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Johnny and Coogler coming up here at Pittsburgh. That's when

952
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: we start the Texans TV preseason slate of three with

953
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Shelby on the sideline. What are you thinking?

954
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 5: The only problem I have with being in the booth

955
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 5: with John Harris is that I usually just listen to

956
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: what he says.

957
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: I repeat it.

958
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 5: When I'm in the booth so I can sound smart.

959
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 5: Now he's gonna be there, say no, I says that,

960
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 5: but all jokes. As I man, I'm pumped. I'm pumped.

961
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 4: You know, we're all football guys.

962
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 5: But John is the football guy of Houston, so to

963
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 5: be able to share the booth in and hopefully we

964
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: don't talk too much offensive line d.

965
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 4: In the game. But yeah, it's gonna be a blast.

966
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be fun because you guys can tell the

967
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: stories and we want that conversational approach. It is preseason.

968
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: The games don't count, but they count very much in

969
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: the development of the team. So it'll be a thrill

970
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: to have you guys on the air. So thanks a

971
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: lot for joining.

972
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: Us, end thanks for having me, and thanks for a fan.

973
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: All Right, there's our visit with nd Khalou can't wait

974
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: for Texans preseason TV with Endy and Johnny in the booth,

975
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: Shelby Coppage on the sideline, Kevin Kogler on play by play,

976
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: and they'll begin at Pittsburgh with ESPN handling the Hall

977
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: of Fame game. More importantly, we're handling the Hall of

978
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Fame game on Texans Radio. Me Andre, Johnny can't wait

979
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: to bring that to you from Canton. Coming up. Tommy Rockets,

980
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: as Johnny calls him, that's what he's nicknamed, Tommy Townsend,

981
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: the Texans punter. This is a really good conversation that

982
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to miss on Texans Radio. One more segment.

983
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: It's a good one, Tommy town said. The new punter

984
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: for this team, formerly with the Super Bowl champion Chiefs,

985
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: John Harris, visited with him earlier in training camp.

986
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: Standing next to Tommy Townsend aka my new nickname, Tommy Rockets.

987
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: How you like a new nickname?

988
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 6: I think he's pretty good. I think that might be

989
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 6: the best one I've gotten so far.

990
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: I like it.

991
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: I like it because you've been hitting rockets. Okay, the

992
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: first day we saw you punt out here. Now we've

993
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: seen you punt against us, which we did like. But

994
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: we're watching and we're like, God, dang, hank time?

995
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 4: Is that? Is that a big deal for you?

996
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: Is that kind of your focus?

997
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: Is it?

998
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 3: Positioning? Is at hank time? What's the biggest thing.

999
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: When you're back there just a normal punt from twenty

1000
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: five yard line?

1001
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: What do you focused on? More?

1002
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: Hangtime, positioning, all of it.

1003
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 6: It's mostly just flipping the field, you know. Some hangtime

1004
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 6: is something that I've always always prided myself on. It's

1005
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 6: something that kind of like comes naturally to me. Everyone's

1006
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: got different lake swings and minds more of like a hangtime.

1007
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, like when we're kind of like backed up

1008
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 6: around the twenty yard line, I'm just kind of focusing

1009
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: on flipping the field and uh, just getting the ball

1010
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 6: down fifty plus yards with good enough hangtime VII to

1011
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 6: where the gunners can either.

1012
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: Force fare catch or make a play.

1013
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Have you gotten in Coach Ross's ear about the punt

1014
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: pass option, the fake pass option.

1015
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 3: If you've gotten in his ear about this, I gotta

1016
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: think you have maybe.

1017
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: Uh, not quite not too much, not too much, I

1018
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 6: should say, yeah, we spoke a little bit about it

1019
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: in the spring, but uh, but that's definitely something I'm

1020
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 6: always pushing for. I love fake punts and the throwing

1021
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 6: ones of those have become yeah, a lot of fun.

1022
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Tommy first year in Houston. You know, we know

1023
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: you've been in Kansas City. We'll get that a little bit.

1024
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 3: But company Houston.

1025
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: The choice to come to Houston, how tough was that?

1026
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: How excited are you to be in Houston? What do

1027
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: you think about this twenty twenty four squad this far?

1028
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think the uh, you know, the

1029
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 6: the off season going into free agency. I don't think

1030
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: it could have worked out better. I mean, I think

1031
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: Houston's an amazing spot. You know, I definitely can't complain

1032
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 6: about the twelve Dome.

1033
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: Games that we have this year.

1034
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, so so I'm really excited about it. And I

1035
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 6: mean a lot of hype around the team. I mean

1036
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 6: just watching the guys work. I mean, everyone's you know,

1037
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 6: very dedicated and very intentional about everything they do, and

1038
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 6: you know, especially the coaching staff too. Just so much

1039
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 6: energy around the team. And I'm really excited to be

1040
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 6: a Texan.

1041
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: So I once had this conversation with Shane Leckler, Now

1042
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: you talked about punning inside Houston to say that as well,

1043
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: but I'm I had this conversation with lack about being

1044
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: in different stadiums and he knew the wind patterns.

1045
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: The side of the field he wanted to punt from.

1046
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you and I might be the two people

1047
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: that follow the radar the most because we're down on

1048
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: the sidelines. But how much do you get into that

1049
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: aspect of it when you're outside in particular, know what

1050
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: the wind patterns are kicking in different stadiums, know what

1051
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: kind of punt to have.

1052
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: In a different stadium. How much do you kind of

1053
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: go into that aspect on me?

1054
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, crazy amount. Like I have a couple of

1055
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 6: different wind apps on my phone that I'll check throughout

1056
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 6: the week and just see what it's predicted to be

1057
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 6: for game day, just so you know, like I'm mentally

1058
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 6: preparing if it's gonna be a really windy game. I'm

1059
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 6: not stepping out on the field for the first time

1060
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 6: just being like like, what the heck is what the

1061
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 6: heck is this?

1062
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 4: You know?

1063
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: So, so I think that's a really good thing to

1064
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 6: like mentally prepare for, just check the conditions and especially

1065
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 6: when because that's the thing that affects punters the most.

1066
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1067
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So I asked you about last year. Last two

1068
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: years went two rings, the ring ceremony. We're able to

1069
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: make it back. Where do you have the rings?

1070
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: Where do you keep them?

1071
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: I don't know if I should disclosed where I keep them,

1072
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 6: but that question. But but but yeah, it was incredible.

1073
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 6: You know, the last two years in Kansas City, you

1074
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 6: know where we won the Super Bowls. You know, they

1075
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 6: were amazing and incredible experience. Last four years in case

1076
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 6: he were great. But you know, I'm really looking forward

1077
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: to this season. I think we have a really really

1078
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 6: good team, really strong team, and excited to you know,

1079
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: have the opportunity to try and make a run.

1080
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 2: So when you punt a football when it's minus twelve

1081
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: degrees or whatever it was in that playoff.

1082
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: Game against Miami, is it literally like hitting a brick? Uh?

1083
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: So, yes, And no, So this is where I get

1084
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: super technical about it. I could talk for hours about this,

1085
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 6: but but you know, when it's that cold outside, the

1086
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 6: ball the PSI and the ball goes down a lot.

1087
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: So the ball over compresses.

1088
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 6: If I put a full stock swing, like you know,

1089
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 6: say it's ninety degrees outside, my stock swing is different

1090
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 6: from when it's thirty degrees fifteen degrees. So if you

1091
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 6: over compress the ball, it comes out nuughily. So you

1092
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: still have to hit a really tight spinning ball just

1093
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 6: because the ball doesn't fly very well, you know in

1094
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 6: cold air. And you also have to lower down your

1095
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 6: launch angles just because the ball doesn't hang you up

1096
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 6: to have a little lower launch to the ball turns over.

1097
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: So I mean I'm spending all pre games sitting there

1098
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 6: trying to figure out, okay, like the tilt that I

1099
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: need to have on the ball in order to hit

1100
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 6: like a really tight spiral, but also the launch angles

1101
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 6: where I'm getting optimal hang time in a decent amount

1102
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 6: of distance. Like I said, to have good punts, let

1103
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 6: gunners go make plays.

1104
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: You can get as nerd as you are with me.

1105
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm a civil engineer a long, long, long time ago,

1106
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: so I love hearing it.

1107
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: Tommy. We're glad you're here.

1108
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: We hope you are the least used player on this

1109
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: particular field, but we know at some point you're gonna

1110
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: have to come up big for us.

1111
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, man, Thank you absolutely, thanks for having me.

1112
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: All right.

1113
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: There's John Harris with Tommy Townsend aka Tommy Rockets as

1114
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Johnny nicknamed him. That is the show for tonight. We're

1115
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: on tomorrow morning eight to ten. John mcclanell join us.

1116
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: We'll get you ready for the Hall of Fame game.

1117
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Demico Ryans also, it's all happening here. Have a great

1118
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: night as Area forty five has you next, Go Texans,