1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast as the papers. Welcome back 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: to another addition to the Round the NFL Podcast. My 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a room 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: field with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosa. Thought. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Hey man, I don't know why I 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: was talking so fast there, Slow it down, user. I'm excited. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: It's our big Sunday Week three recap show. A lot 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: to discuss right now. Week one, I mean, you know 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: you're getting warmed up. Week two, we're learning some things. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: This this winds up being the best show of the 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: whole season. Then it goes, it starts going downhill. It 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: seems that's very Cincinnati Bengals, Like, what a what an 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: early time to peak? Yes, So we have a lot 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: of games to get to because you know, here at 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: the Round the NFL Podcast, we want to make sure 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: we get to you on Sunday night, get all the 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: games taken care of, go through them all, analyze them. 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Then you can tune in over on the NFL Network 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: on your dial and check out Around the NFL TV 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: show with our good bud Andrew Siciliano, and he's doing 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: his thing basically around the NFL is a busy operation. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: Went till last time you saw a TV with a dial. 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: There are many grandfather yes, septagenarians, a plenty of There 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: was a dial when I was growing up that you 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: had to you know, we're old enough alive. During that era, 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: we had used like, uh, you still do that? L 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: openers to open the TV. That's how that's how bad 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: our TV? What was what was it like? You have 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: seven brothers, including yourself? Correct? What was it? The TV situation? 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: There were There was a good three year period in 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: there where the only TV we owned was like a 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: ten inch black and white that would only turn on 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: with like fingernail or with like tweezers. And then you 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: had to have the liminum boil, of course, and sometimes 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 1: you use a hanger for the do you have a roof? 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: We had a roof? Yeah. I did a lot of 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: fist fights breaking out over whether you're gonna watch what 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna watch at eight thirty on a Wednesday, you know, 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: usually watch what mom wants to watch. That's so a 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: lot to come up. I love any peak behind the 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: curtain of the Westling family tree. But right now we're 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: gonna focus on the task at hand, and that is 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: breaking down all the week three games. This is what 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: we are coming up on today's show, recap every game 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: Greg thirty two teams. I break this down all the time. 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: As a reminder, nobody's games played Thursday and Monday at 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: least fourteen games to talk about today nailed And that means, 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: if you're reading our takeaways column, our world famous takeaways, 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: call him on the website, three per game, fourteen times three. 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: What's that day? Close? I once got a thirty nine 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: on a state mandated math test, so we got the 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: week three recap coming up. We also have our good friend, 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: and we love her. She's talented, she's wonderful, she's friendly, 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: She's Colleen Wolf, very knowledgeable. Did I mention that Connie Fox, 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: the Great Connie Fox will join us? And that is 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: the call. She hears that like a feral animal, she 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: turns back from whatever she's doing, starts galloping towards the 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Culver City Studios and a film network. I don't know 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: if she'd like that imagery, but listen, I already went 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: down that road. It's too late to back out. And finally, 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: what what, No, No, I'm just excited to here what's next. 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: You know what's next? Doing this a long time now. 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: The Sunday night football, big matchup at Ford Field, Peyton 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Manning and the Broncos against Matthew Stafford and Allions. So 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: will break down that big primetime game, uh that you 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: just watched Alan Chris with the call. Lot of good 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: stuff coming up today. So let's now get into the 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: week three Sunday schedule and let's start Mark Sessler and Cincinnati. 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Where in Baltimore, I should say, we're a J. Green. 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, I just talked about the wide receivers, but 71 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: A J. Green had the game of his career, racking 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: up two seven yards and two touchdowns. Is the undefeated 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Bengals out lasted the Ravens. Ravens fall to oh and three. 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: The Bengals not three and oh. Mark. We'll ask you 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: this question, do you believe in the Bengals? I do? 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like, you know, we've we've taken 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Andy dalt in the town over and over and for 78 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: good reason in the past, and I think he's still 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a couple of those stinker games. But he 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: just looks completely comfortable in this offense. In the second 81 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: year with Hugh Jackson. I didn't see it to that 82 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: degree last year. I think they've got so much talent 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: around him that he just feels more confident that he 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: can make plays. And that's what he did today against 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: a bad secondary, frankly in Baltimore. When it came down 86 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: to it and they needed him to drive the length 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: of the field, he did it without any issue. And 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: and yes it was a j green, but it was 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: also Baltimore, I think is a big issue, a big 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: Another big part of this game is their defense, the 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: defense that we've grown up watching dismantle the rest of 92 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: that division and less fully grown men in Baltimore. All Right, 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: the last decade. If anyone in this show is twenty 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: years old listening to this, you don't know anything else. 95 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: This is unusual to watch a team get beaten up 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the way they have. Last week Derek Carr career game. 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: This week Andy Dalton goes and does the same thing. 98 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: We don't think of these quarterbacks this way. It has 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: something to do with Baltimore's defense. Well, this is a 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: game that Ravens needed to win and they didn't win. Yeah, 101 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: the past couple of January, you've been even more frustrated 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: than I have been by Andy Dalton's play. It sounds 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: like you're saying you believe he could go into January 104 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: right now and you'd have total confidence that he would 105 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: win a playoff game. It's not just him alone. I mean, 106 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: I think the team has evolved. The team that lost 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: those back to back games against the Texans and those 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: boring playoff games. This is a completely different Balton or 109 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: completely different Bengals to to Mark's point, like what we 110 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: expect from Andy Dalton throughout his career. On Friday Show, 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned how you thought that the Ravens would win 112 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: because Dalton had a stinker in him, because he's had 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: those in his picked every home team and I for that, 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: But your point made so much sense that on my 115 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: fantasy team, I benched Andy Dalton with your words echoing 116 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: in my mind. This is why I jumped out of 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: fantasy and Dan because everything that I that I that 118 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: he does turns out being by the way our team is. 119 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: I lessened your stake in our team. I took you 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: out of the decision making process. We're three and oh, 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: but I put in Colin Kaepernick in for Dalton. That 122 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: didn't well, that's your decision why. I mean, it was 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: an awful decision retrospect. But the point being is like, 124 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: maybe this is a different Andy Dalton, but it is September. 125 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Don't sit a quarterback against Baltimore secondary act, but I wouldn't. 126 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: We've seen Andy Dalton have great three games stretches, no doubt, 127 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: we want to see it over the long haul. Now, 128 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I do think he has looked better. And if you 129 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: want to make the case, what's different with Andy Dalton? Now, 130 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: it's what West was talking about in the off season. 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: It's the best supporting cast maybe in the entire NFL. 132 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: You have Jeremy Hill not even playing well, and Geo 133 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Bernard can go in there and look like a top 134 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: ten running back. You have Marvin Jones catching long touchdowns. 135 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: You have Tyler Effort resting away balls, looking very physical, 136 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, looking like a high quality tight end. I mean, 137 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: he has got more talent around him, no matter how 138 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: well he's playing, than just about any quarterback in the league. 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: You've also got one of the things that all of 140 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL have right now, and 141 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: that's a good offensive line play. To me, that's the 142 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: difference between the good teams and the bad teams through 143 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: three weeks and the Bengals look that Andy Dalton go 144 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: fourteen and oh and the regular season. In my opinion 145 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: of him, will not change. He has to win big games, 146 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: win under the lights, win in the playoffs. I don't 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: care what you're doing on some random Sunday in September. 148 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: West let stuck stable boys for a moment. The man 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: that resides in the suite not for much longer, will 150 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: be moving out at the end of the year. But 151 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Steve Smith putting up some historic numbers for a man 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: his age, playing like a man possessed. I mean, he's 153 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: such a great competitor and the best two games stretched 154 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: by any wide receiver over thirty five years old in 155 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: NFL history. He's up there with Jerry Rice as far 156 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: as old wide receivers go. One thing I'll say though, 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: speaking being wowed in September, we were talking about him 158 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: as a m VP candidate last time last year. This time, 159 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: let's see if you can keep it up now old players, 160 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: old players fade over the course of this He's one 161 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of the few players on that team showing any fire 162 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: right now that honest players been okay though, right I mean, 163 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't have but they're yeah, they're passing game. They 164 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: have no foundational run game. Right now, Who's who's playing 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: well inness offense? Besides Steve Smith and Crockett Gilmore has 166 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: been okay, they don't have any speed. And you know 167 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: it's weird though they're own three and now and three 168 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: team has made the playoffs since the Bills and that 169 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: was the Doug Flutie season. But would anybody here be 170 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: surprised if they were six and six in November. I 171 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: think they can get back in the race, but it's 172 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to start Thursday in Pittsburgh. They get a 173 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: little lucky there with that matchup a little, but it 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't it wouldn't shock me. There three plays away really 175 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: from being in this game. And and talking about Andy Dalton, 176 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean he won in Baltimore last year with a 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: big play to A J. Green. I mean, these things 178 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: have happened before. I would look at them more. Is 179 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: about twenty five plays away from being a good team, 180 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: not just three plays away from being undefeated. They're not 181 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: oh and three bad, but the record says you're ow 182 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: in three in the division. That's really tough. So that's 183 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: a problem. What Bill Parcel say, West, you are what 184 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: your record says. You are right. So we you mentioned 185 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Greg that they get lucky next week, the Ravens doing 186 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: that's because Ben Roethlisberger won't be playing. The Steelers quarterback 187 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: left under his game with a knee injury in the 188 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: third quarter. The Steelers still survived. Michael Vick came in. 189 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: They won twelve six in St. Louis against the Rams. 190 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Forget about the Rams, they stink. Greg has the one 191 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: they called Big Ben changed his injury. Has it shifted 192 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: the balance of power in the Absolutely it gives up 193 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Bengals a chance to get ahead of the Steelers over 194 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: how you know, as we tape this Sunday night, we'll 195 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: see the initial estimates are four weeks, but we we 196 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: don't really know for sure what that's gonna be. But 197 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that could be big Bengals can get a couple of 198 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: game lead. Who knows if the Steelers were gonna be 199 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: in the mix for a bye, that's gonna make things 200 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: tougher on them. But I think it's really important that 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: they won this game today. That you can't overlook the 202 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: fact they were up nine to three when he left 203 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: the game. Midway through the third quarter, Michael Vick did 204 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. In fact, he fumbled the ball and he 205 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: nearly threw an interception. And yet they still won the 206 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: game without Ryan Shazier because of their defense. Now they 207 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: got you know, they got a little lucky. The Rams 208 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: gave him a couple of things. But ultimately it's a 209 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: good sign to me that they won the game with 210 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell with a big run at the end 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: and the defense playing pretty well. I mean, is it 212 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: just ball? Pittsburgh's defense has been better. Let the last 213 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: game there's finally getting some pass rush. But you're the St. 214 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: Louis Rams. You lose. You lose twelve to six. They 215 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: all thought they were. Their offensive line is a joke, 216 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: and they don't move the ball on offense. The score 217 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: is a It was strange because the Rams really let 218 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers throw the ball shot. I think they were 219 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: so determined not to have what happened to the forty nine, 220 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: and it worked Ben Roethlisberger when he got hurt, it 221 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: was about to be a third and twenty one. They 222 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: probably would have been punting there. The Rams were gonna 223 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: get to the fourth quarter holding Ben Roethlisberger and this 224 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: loaded offense to nine points, So the Rams defense played well. 225 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: I think they did what they needed to do. If 226 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: Lance Kendricks doesn't kill two drives with drops, including a 227 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: play that would have been a forty five yard touchdown, 228 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I think the Rams are ahead in this. It's the 229 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: same old story with the Rams. It's always something and 230 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: it's his offense. And you know, listen, we all love 231 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: Detective Frank Signetti, but you know what, turning your badge 232 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: broo too awful because you're not Your team's not moving anywhere. 233 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: I know, Nick Foles is your quarterback. And Todd Gurley 234 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: came back and played and made his debut, didn't do anything. 235 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, Tavon Austin, who were start to get excited 236 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: about he's pulling that thing again where he disappears for 237 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: four to six weeks. It's the same old crap with 238 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the Rams. It is, and Foles really did nothing wrong 239 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: for the first three quarters. It was really his teammates 240 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: and just a wildly conservative offense and they only had 241 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: three drives in the first half. But if you're gonna 242 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: have that type of game plan, then you need to 243 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: have him play well when it matters. In the fourth quarter, 244 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and when he got the ball back only down three 245 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: with three minutes ago, the first thing he does is 246 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: throw into double coverage in an interception. So when the 247 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Chips were down the last couple of weeks, he played poor. 248 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: And this can tear a part of team if you're 249 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: the Rams, because what do you think Greg Williams is 250 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: telling his defensive players behind the scenes, when your offense 251 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: is putting up six points, you held the Steelers to 252 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: twelve points. You did your job. He's been done to 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: tell his defensive players a few things. Ste Fishers that 254 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: is almost said as much after the game when they 255 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: were talking about how they lost the game, and he 256 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: basically was like, well, we've only scored sixteen points on 257 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: offense last two weeks. That's that's the only problem. That's 258 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: seven and nine. You're right, I think if you're the Steelers, 259 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: you have to go from uh they then deer of 260 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: deflation this afternoon to kind of feeling boy it right now. 261 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: If the reports are accurate, Ben might miss four to 262 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: six weeks. Levyan Bell comes back in as a factor, 263 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: Martavis Brian is due back. They could win some games 264 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: and if they're still in it, it's insane. How good 265 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: their offense is. The first play of the game, they 266 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: line up Levy on Bell at wide receiver. Almost it 267 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: was almost like a sign, Hey, we're gonna make him 268 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Throws it to him for ten yards. 269 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: He looked good. He looked like Levy on Bell. Basically, 270 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: if they're if you big Ben's out for a month. 271 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: It's the Ravens at home, the Charges on the road, 272 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals at home, and the Chiefs away. It's not easy. 273 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: And maybe if you go to and two there, I mean, 274 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: they've done it with Charlie Batch and you're fine. I'd 275 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: be worried about Michael Victough from what we saw last one. 276 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: Else I'd be worried about your sandwich proposition that the 277 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: Rams are finishing in second place. Oh yeah, those racing 278 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: towards fourteen and two, and you have the seahawstle within 279 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: at least eleven yep, I don't. I think the Rams 280 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: have a chance still to win the great that game 281 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: until they win set. They've got a great chance to 282 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: go seven and nine. What have you seen from them 283 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: to think they're gonna go could have won this game, 284 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: but terrible whole thing. You you you will sit there 285 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: until a team is buried. You'll tell us about every 286 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: way and she informed the one right there, one and two. 287 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: We will have seven four times this year with all 288 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: of these teams. Oh, the Bengals are done. Now we 289 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: might have to start sticking a fork in some teams. 290 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the rams of that team, but come on, 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: let's be serious. Let's move on. Let's check out a 292 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: team in the a f C, A team that was 293 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: desperate for a win. The Indianapolis Colts got it. They 294 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: scored three touchdowns in the fourth quarter, came from behind 295 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: to knock off the Tennessee Titans in a thirty seven 296 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: thirty five thriller in Nashville. Chris Westling, did this comeback 297 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: save Chas Pigano's job? Nont No, I'm not Jim Hurthing. 298 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Let's just say you are. I think it could save 299 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: their season. You could look back in January and there 300 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and say that seven minutes span in 301 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where they scored three touchdowns save their season, 302 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Because just a few minutes before that, if you were 303 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: watching the game, you're thinking, wow, Andrew Luck has severely 304 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: regressed in the pocket as a decision maker and in 305 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: pocket presence he had clearly regressed. Andre Johnson saw one 306 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: target officially in this game. He had a thirty seven 307 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: yard called back um and in the offensive line, they 308 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: made some moves. They put Joe Wright's in it right 309 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: tackle move Jack NewART back inside the guard. But but 310 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Lux still didn't seem to trust his line in this game. 311 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: And they still had plays called back on holding penalties. 312 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: So I think he could say this the Colts might 313 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit back on track, but they still 314 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: have major issues, tangible issues on offense. You aren't getting 315 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Jack Mwart heat and at any other podcast. That's all 316 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: I've got to say. Mr and Mrs Mwart if you're 317 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: out there, they appreciated. This is the record since I 318 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: am hardcore journal. It was a thirty thirty three final. 319 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. How did your boy Mariota luck? Putting a 320 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: lot of points on the board. He looked impressive. Two interceptions. 321 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: The first one was to pick six That was not 322 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: his fault in any way. Uh Delaney Walker had the 323 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: ball knocked out of his hands after he caught it 324 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: and popped up into Dwight Lowry's hands sixty seven yards. 325 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: But Mariotta moved the ball three hundred sixty seven yards, 326 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: came back with a two minute drill to tie, potentially 327 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: tie the game, but they couldn't get the two point 328 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: conversion down. He looks pretty good. I was impressed with 329 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: him again, and I think he j Cutler and Mark 330 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Rippon are the only quarterbacks in NFL history to have 331 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: multiple touchdowns in the first three NFL games. And that's 332 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: happening with Tennessee not running the ball at all, it 333 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: looks like, and having a bizarre change in back field 334 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: every week. It's happening with a team that starts Harry 335 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Douglas and Antonio Andrews. Antonio Andrews is a running back 336 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: who moves like a fullback. They benched Bishop Synanky. I 337 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: don't know why, but they benched him and this team 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: like if if Delaney Walker and Kendall Wright aren't making 339 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: the play, who's making the play. It's way too early 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: to get into awards season talk, but of all the 341 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: major awards, Marcus Mariotta is way out in front of 342 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: anyone else in his category, which is offensive Rookie of 343 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the Year. Gary Cooper seems like he's coming on. Quarterback 344 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: is going to get that award every time. This is 345 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: what we talked about with the Colts and the soft 346 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: landing in the a f C South last week, though 347 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: even as they sort of we laid out like the 348 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: three games in the rows, like Okay, maybe they'll struggle 349 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit against the Titans in that first one, 350 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: and then they find a way to get a big 351 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: win on the road, which is exactly what they did. 352 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the type of thing good teams do. 353 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: And then next week, now you get the Jaguars or 354 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the order is, the Jaguars and 355 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: the Texans, and you get a little better each week, 356 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and suddenly you've won three games. You're feeling better about yourself, 357 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: and no one in this they're already back in first place, 358 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: no one in this divisions above five. And then you 359 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: get whacked in January to keep playing the way the 360 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Coult said and not a complete team. A tearful, emotional 361 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: chuck begano in the locker room. I saw the video 362 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: on the Colt's website, called this the biggest victory he's 363 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: ever been a part of. Yes, he knows, like I'm 364 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: not joking around. I think there was a chance that 365 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: he could have gotten fired tomorrow more. He was a scene. 366 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: He's in anledge that he's not coming back next year, 367 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: probably but that that's maybe that's true, and I think 368 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: he probably feels that. But they didn't win a playoff 369 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: game against Peyton Manning last year to get to the 370 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: n SC Championship. I wouldn't think that that game was 371 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: pretty big. Well, he was talking more about um showing 372 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: character logic. He was talking more about beyond football, teaching 373 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: life lessons used wresting hard. Is what he's doing. Win 374 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: some more games, alright, Moving on, let's they got another 375 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: undefeated team, the Atlanta Falcons, who wrote Yes, a virtuoso 376 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: performance from Julio Jones in a thirty comeback win over 377 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: the depleted Dallas Cowboys. Uh in Gerald world, this is 378 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: a game where the Falcons scored the final twenty five 379 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: points and then Julio Jones, you know, as I alluded 380 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: to at the top of the podcast, just took over 381 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: twelve for one sixty four and two touchdowns. They also 382 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: had a great running game. No Tevin Coleman, but DeVante 383 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Freeman went thirty for one forty one and three touchdowns. 384 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me how different the Falcons are uh 385 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: this year compared to the Tavas wearing Mike Smith Raflkins, 386 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: which are just dead in the water. And I know 387 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: we don't we could talk about team of a t 388 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: L at some point and we got to pick a 389 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: team soon and we don't like to pick teams of 390 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: playing domes for some reason. So I'm clear to me. 391 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: But that's something that you guys West and Market laid 392 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: out in the best What the Falcons are an exciting team. 393 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: I feel like they they pass a lot of the tests, 394 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: the litmus test for what we look for, um because 395 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: they are playing really well right now. And the Cowboys 396 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: uh put up a good fight, but the Falcons just 397 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: overwhelmed them. How disappointed is this Cowboys defense? That you 398 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: get twenty eight points from Brandon Weeden and I know 399 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: it's stopped in the second half, but that's found money 400 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: that they got that good of an offensive performance and 401 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: jumped out to a huge lead in this game. That's 402 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: that's more than you could have expected out of Weeding. Yeah, 403 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: and we didn't was fine. He was accurate with this passing. 404 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: He made one Brandon we didn't like pass that was intercepted, 405 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: but he did exactly what they needed from him, and 406 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: they What happened here with this game was strange because 407 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: we talked about the Vaughn did offensive line of the Cowboys, 408 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: and in the first half they were dominant. Not only 409 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: was Weed in getting protection, Joseph Randall was going off. 410 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: I think he had ninety yards about it the half 411 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: and finished with three rushing touchdowns himself. But then everything 412 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: disappeared for this team in the second half. They couldn't 413 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: I think they had negative five rushing yards in the 414 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: third quarter, could not move the ball on the ground 415 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: after that, and then Brandon weeden't. Once you're in a 416 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: position where it's Matt Ryan versus Brandon Weeden, who's gonna win, 417 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen there. I mean we did 418 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: in two twenty six. We had a network hit last 419 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: week where we basically all buried the guy. And I'm 420 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: not saying any Blue scores off. But you're right, Greg, 421 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: you love Brandon Weeden, but I don't think a lot 422 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: of people predicting that. I think the one thing with 423 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the with the Falcons, Kyle Shanahan has made a big 424 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: difference for this offense because this team could not run 425 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: the ball at all the last couple of years, same characters, 426 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman's in their rushes for a hundred and forty 427 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: one yards. And here's the difference, because Kyle Shanahan did 428 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: that in Cleveland with bad running backs, you take him 429 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: out of the mix, Cleveland can't run the ball. It 430 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: has to do with Shanahan and he's always done well 431 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: with his number one receiver. So Julio Jones is having 432 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: the kind of year you could expect. Julio Jones has 433 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: thirty four catches, as I said, through three games, and 434 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: you know that's he's on pace for NFL record. No 435 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: one's ever had that many catches in three games and 436 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: he's reached that stage or he's just uncoverable. Well, I'm 437 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: glad you made that point about Julio off the top 438 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: because that it was something I wanted to talk about 439 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: last week, which was that is Julio Jones, as great 440 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: as he's been, going to have a season that this 441 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: is the season we remember him by. And he's off 442 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: to that. I mean, every game has been over a 443 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards. Every game, he's absolutely dominated the 444 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: game to the point where you can say he's basically 445 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: the difference because he wasn't the first two games they 446 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: don't win. They won that game because of him in 447 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Week one, and they won that game because of the 448 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: week one of the few guys that signs a big 449 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: money contract and actually is outplaying it potentially. I think 450 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: on on the other side of the ball to last 451 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: week when I watched the Giants game, Vic Beasley, their 452 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: first round pick might be the quickest to edge rusher 453 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL already. I mean he's been not He's 454 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: getting a Tyron Smith who has the best feat of 455 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: any left tackle in THEFL. Had some problems with big 456 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: teams leave today. Look, so the Falcons are three and 457 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: oh as are the Arizona Cardinals, who are on a 458 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: roll and creating some distance in the NFC South following 459 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: a forty seven seven win over the forty Niners. Yikes, 460 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: that Week one Monday Night win for the forty Niners 461 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: feels like it's about three years ago. Now, Greg, are 462 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals that good or the forty Niners that bad? Now? 463 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: I think you have to give the credit to the 464 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense for jumping on some Colin Kaepernick's passes to 465 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: pick sixes in the first six minutes of that game. 466 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: That is the first time in NFL history it's ever 467 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: happened that fast. Well, they say since nine. Technically they 468 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: don't know what happened before I'm gonna go out there 469 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: and say it, since they didn't throw the ball back 470 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: in probably not. Two pick six is in the first 471 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: six minutes. So that's why it's a little hard to 472 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: evaluate this game because after the two pick six is 473 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: they stopped him again, and then the Cardinals go right 474 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: down the field. They're up twenty one nothing mid We 475 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: got some evaluation for you. Give the Cardinals some credit. 476 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: They're just a much better to of course they are. 477 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: This last week the forty Niners, it was a little misleading. 478 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: I think the final scores actually outgained Pittsburgh in that game. 479 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: In this game, it was one way traffic even after 480 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: the start. I mean, they dominated on offense. They could 481 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: have scored even more points. Carson Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald 482 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: were talking about missed opportunities after the game and the 483 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: forty Niners never got anything going offensively. Can I make 484 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: a request raising your hand, yes? Structurally for our coverage 485 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: how we do things here at NFL dot com can 486 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: we just stop writing off season stories, right? Because how 487 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: many posts did we write about Colin Kaepernick and working 488 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: with different coaches and improving his footwork? Look at his footwork. 489 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why it's listen, somebody's got to do 490 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: him least. Maybe you're a smarter man than I, But 491 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean we write the stories and you you put 492 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: the analysis in and maybe if he could do this 493 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: or do that. Trent Gilford believes that he can get 494 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: back to being that guy he was a couple of 495 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: years ago. But let's face it, Colin Kaepernick stinks now. 496 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: I disagree that. I think writing off off season stories 497 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Writing him off off Kaepernick for one 498 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: bad game when he played two I would say good 499 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: games last week. I would say it was very good. 500 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: It was one of the better played games by a 501 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: quarterback all week. I know they trailed early, had nothing 502 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: to do with him. He had a lot of impressive passes. 503 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying crazy about his Week one game either, No, 504 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: he was not. Yeah, I'm just saying that this game 505 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: started off so poorly. It's almost like, what do you 506 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: even say after it's twenty one? Nothing in the first 507 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: Courtea it throws everyone off balance, and it's a bad 508 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: team to be last week too. Not that that's on 509 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, but can I make a request for you, Yes, 510 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: can the Cardinals be team of at l m hm? 511 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: You were the only one holding them up, weren't you. 512 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Here's here's my hesitation. Oh no, that they're too good? Well, 513 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: we had him last week before they were three in it, 514 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: but we knew they were going to kill the Niners, 515 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: so that to me, it wasn't like we were going 516 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: to be I don't I don't think there should be 517 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: anything about too good. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 518 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: block it. We can, we could take a vote on it. 519 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: But I know, I just kind of when I think 520 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: like a fun, exciting team should be a little under 521 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: the radar, which I wouldn't call it Cardinals. I kind 522 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: of like what's going on in Atlanta. I'm with Dan, 523 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: but I really don't think that this that Carolina Panthers 524 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: two years ago. We're not about specific. Let's do this. 525 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: Last year was not about that either. You guys, roll 526 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: with what you want. Let's let's think it over and 527 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: on Tuesday will make our own decision. I thought I 528 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: don't vote tonight. So we had a lot of stuff 529 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: to get to and I feel like that is a 530 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: topic that needs a little bit and we need some 531 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: time to really figure it out. We don't want to 532 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: make them all the puff pieces will be out by 533 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: two even there, Even though they're good, I still think 534 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the key is that they're fun to watch and we 535 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: like them, and they have a spirit about them that 536 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: we've liked. Coach in the league. I never take his 537 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: foot like many teams, but John Brown Larry Fitzgerald is 538 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: playing awesome four yards today. He's running over people there. 539 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: This team is sunny there. Your feels like he's getting 540 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: a blitz for a big play every week. Carson Palmer 541 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: is the top five quarterback. The offensive line is good. 542 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: This team is so good that they've made Chris Johnson 543 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: a legit player again. A hundred and fifty yards from 544 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: scrimmage today, he's running decisively. Any team that could bring 545 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: back the old Chris Johnson, they're doing voodoo. Guys are 546 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna thank me. By the way, when Honey Badger, Bruce 547 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Arians and Carson Palmer moved to South Korea on Monday, 548 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: well you can you can think we're not making Colin 549 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: Kaepernick the team of a TL. Well, I'm glad. That's 550 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: why you don't do it too early. We never going 551 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: to make a decision on this thing. Tuesday is the 552 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: time to make the move. Why would they move to 553 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: UH Korea? Why not? They have motives, they have reasons 554 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: reasonable to me. Hopefully that doesn't. Hopefully it falls through. 555 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: It's just now a matter of a ride. If they 556 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: can get to ride, it's done. They just need the 557 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: ride to South Korea. So it's a long car ride 558 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: of truck ride in a boat. Sure, Okay, the Carolina Panthers, 559 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: let's talk more on defeated teams that moved to three 560 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: and over the first time since two thousand three and 561 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: banish the Saints to Owen three on the strength of 562 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: a three yard passing day from Cam Newton in win. 563 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Nice job by the Panthers, But Greg, it feels like 564 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: the Saints have slipped into the pro football abyss. Let's 565 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: start there. That's true. And yet they probably feel good 566 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: about what happened today. That's not never good. I mean, 567 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: they don't feel great. But Luke McCown plays fine in 568 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: the game defensively. Basically, it happens what you expect to happen. 569 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: The fact that they were competitive with Luke McCown at quarterback, 570 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I thought it was gonna be a blowout. 571 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: And that's just where the Saints are. We talked about 572 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think you can stick a fork in 573 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: the Saints. I mean, thank you. I thought you're gonna 574 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: about to tell me that you know six four and 575 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I actually something like mojo. I mean, the Ravens have 576 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: negative mojo. It's kind of like the Falcons. Once you 577 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: start winning those close games, you start believing it and 578 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: right out. The Panthers are a team that are in 579 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: close games and they're used to winning at this point, 580 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: dating back to the end of last season. They know 581 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: how to win ugly games. It's sort of what they do. 582 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Before we get to uh further talking about this game, 583 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: I just want to check in something after the game 584 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: that happened with Cam Newton and our boy at Hockey Lee. 585 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: This is what Cam had to say about a personal 586 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: foul call that wasn't. The response that I got was Cam, 587 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: You're not old enough to get that calls. I'm looking 588 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: at him like jeesus. I didn't think he had to 589 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: half seniority to get a personal file or anything like that. 590 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: But Cam has a he has a point there. He 591 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: puts the Cam and camouflage ridiculous suit two sides, Camo 592 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: suit with the boat break Cam Newton, well, yes, he 593 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: is perhaps best body in the NFL. What a bod 594 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: makes Kevin Patris bod like like an old sludgy man. However, 595 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: uh that suits too small at a hockey League pick 596 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: did not throw a flag on a late hit? Was 597 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: that what this was about. It wasn't even necessarily a 598 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: bad call. He thought it was a late hit on 599 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: a play where Cam Newton was outside the pocket. And 600 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: Cam Newton even admitted he's not sure you know if 601 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: it was the right call or not, but he was 602 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: really upset about the explanation. For what it's worth, a 603 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: league's source did tell around the NFL ed Hockey League 604 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: eyes having said that, and the league also released the 605 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: stage good that that it was basically the correct call 606 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: that they didn't make. But that's not the point Cam 607 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: Newton's making that up right. I believe Cam on this one. 608 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: You're a babe in the woods if you think that 609 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: this hasn't been going on in the NFL and the 610 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: NBA for decades and decades, the established players get the calls. 611 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Can you even imagine, like, uh, established, what's he gonna do? 612 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayliss tomorrow they'll get two 613 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: hours out of this. I think we all know where 614 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: this is headed. I think Cam Newton deserves a little credit. 615 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: I know it was against the Saints, but three fifty yards, 616 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, big factor in the running game as always. 617 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got doesn't have a lot of weapons 618 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and done three o. Their cornerback Josh Norman is headed 619 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: toward a Pro Bowl season instigated by a fight with 620 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Mark se I think he's not on the Staints defense, 621 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: which is one of the worst in the NFL rates. 622 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: I do that NFL Now that couch show with Dave 623 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Damashek and Ike Taylor and m JD. They just sit 624 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: there for eight hours straight. Um and Ike took exception 625 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: with you having issues with Mike Shula. Were you were 626 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: of this, Craig m j D. Yes, they keep they 627 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: keep bringing this up. Yeah, I'm not a big Mike 628 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: Shula guy. They also have issues with any criticism of 629 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett because they think he's a great quarterback. Wait, 630 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: is Greg wrong? He's right. No, I'm just saying it 631 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: was brought up specifically to me and a pro nothing. 632 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: It came up. This is last Sunday. One thing about 633 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Look who they their first four games Jacksonville, Houston, 634 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: New Orleans, and then next week they go to Tampa Bay. 635 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: You couldn't dream up an easier schedule. The four games 636 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: after that at Seattle, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Green Bay, that's gonna be. 637 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: That's the whole different story. But they we talked about 638 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: this before the show. They're playing their own division, which 639 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: you've got some stink bombs in there, and you're playing 640 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the anc South stink bombs. I like that you're bringing 641 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: that back. People haven't been referencing the stink bomb. Well 642 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: they now you have to. With the way some of 643 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: these with the way the Saints played today, that's stink bombs. 644 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Do the kids have stink bombs anymore? Or is it 645 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: all they would be watching someone light off stink bombs 646 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: on It was like an eighties early nineties trope. Shoot 647 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: a virtual stink bomb at you, the old sin button. 648 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: Now they even rip on you on social media and 649 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: make you feel bad. Yeah, they don't even know each 650 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: other a play outside together anymore. There aren't moms calling 651 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: kids in the dinner. They're already inside, like on their laptop. 652 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: This is alright. Moving on, The Houston Texans got back 653 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: into the race in the NFC South a nineteen to 654 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: nine win at home over the lowly Tampa Bay Bucks. 655 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Mark the Texans, Uh, they weren't carried by the legend 656 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: of Bryan Mallett, but rather the unstoppable Alfred Blue tell 657 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: us stories. Well, there's a lot of myth and what 658 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: you just said. This was I asked Greg, and I'm 659 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: not complaining. I said, I want to watch some bad 660 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: games today so I can watch some better games on 661 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: game Pass requested. I requested this and I paid the 662 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: price because this was an absolute disaster for the eyes. Uh, 663 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: it was bad. Ryan Mallett is not a good quarterback. 664 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: The Texans know that, you know they It's like John 665 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: McClain tweeted out about three quarters in, they just stink. 666 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: They had four three drives, has been saying that for 667 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: like five He's absolutely accurate. They had three drives in 668 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: the first half where they started inside the opponents forty 669 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: and got no points. Out of them. They just can't 670 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: get it done. And you're playing a Tampa Bay defense 671 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: that cover two lovees Cover two which is about an 672 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: ancient dinosaur. At this point, they made them look good. 673 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Did my prediction of the first J. J. Watt offensive 674 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: touchdown come true? It did not. They could have used him. 675 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: Did they try anything with him? They could have tried 676 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 1: a little bit more with that. They did not. They 677 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: did not very creative on off. You know, they need 678 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: Arian Foster back, but Alfred Blue did a tweet from J. J. 679 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Watt simply win period whatever. Bro's much confusing. He is 680 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: two games over, hunting thirty yards in his career and 681 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: averages under three yards per carry on the other seventeen 682 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: games in his career. One came against Tampa Bay today, 683 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: the other I believe came against Cleveland's last ranked run defense. 684 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: So he's good against bad teams exactly. I like Dan 685 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: calling this the a f C south of race that 686 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: they're back into. It's a real sprint everyone. I think 687 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: I might have lifted that from Mark's copy so well. 688 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: I should have put quotes around that. I think I'm 689 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: just saying that's they're not exactly a running too fast 690 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: there first, the seven win team. Aaron Foster is gonna 691 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: be back in a few weeks. I'm not gonna get 692 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: excited about this Texans team. No, you know what the 693 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: problem is. But they could be around five hundred when 694 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Foster gets back in a week. Division maybe they can 695 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: hang around. Sure, no chance. They have terrible quarterbacks. Who's 696 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: the best team of the division. The Colts and the 697 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: Cults have problems. I think less years Texas they have 698 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback. This year's Texans I agree absolutely rat Fitzpatrick's 699 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: way better than Hoyer and and Mallett, which is terrible 700 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: to say, depressing, depressing on many levels. How about Jamis Winston. 701 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: What do we see from him? Well, it's the box 702 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: score looks awfully at nineteen in completions for on a 703 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, on a on a relatively on effective offense. 704 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: But what I liked about him there were more than 705 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: a few times that he took shots down field, and 706 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: he made good use of Vinca Jackson and Mike Evans. 707 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: Evans especially, there were a couple of plays that got 708 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: called back by flags where his numbers would have looked 709 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: much better. There were He also showed good against the 710 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: pass rush. He was. He showed some escape ability. I 711 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: thought he got away from pass rushers and aggressively made 712 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: throws downfield, completing some of them. He looked better than 713 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: he has in some of the other games. And it's 714 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: not a lost cause. On seven and a half yards 715 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: per attempt for the season so far, I mean, he's 716 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: not off well. We thought he was going to do 717 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: that this year. He thought he was gonna push it 718 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: downfield and throw a lot of picks, and that's probably's 719 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen. One other things, speaking of offseason narratives that 720 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: we get sucked into, Um, Doug Martin, I'm looking fourteen 721 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: forty six three point three yards to carry? Is he? 722 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: How does he look to you? I mean most of 723 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: that came on there was he like a seventeen yard run. 724 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: He was he was bottled up. I mean the Texans 725 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: the one thing they seem to do well is shut 726 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: down the run. They're not the same way against the past. 727 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: But when you've got what clowney and you've got Vince Wolfork, 728 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: they took care of him today. So I was wrong 729 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: about J. J. Watt. Well, yes, it's not that you're 730 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: wrong all season. You were wrong this week. This is 731 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: what I was right about. The New England Patriots dropped 732 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: a fifty burger. Baby hit me TV. Oh no, do 733 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: we get ours Young Monday's wild predictions? Julio Jones is 734 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: good and the Patriots will score against the Jaguar By 735 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: the way, how can we don't get it? We don't 736 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: get songs when our bold predictions go right? Well, you 737 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: have to be iconic. What can I tell you? I mean, 738 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: what do you for me? Listen when you make a 739 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: prediction of a fifty burger? There aren't too many during 740 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: the season. I got it because the New Patriots offense 741 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: stayed hot on Sunday, cruising to a fifty one seventeen 742 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. I forget about the Jaguars West. 743 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: The Pats never punted in this game. How did they 744 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: make it look so easy against the jag Who Well, 745 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: it's like you know the point Mark was making. This 746 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: was easy to predict. Whatever, I'm the only one that did. 747 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: And Connor or not to bag on Connor, but predicted 748 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: this will be a one score game. A totally to 749 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: bag on Connor. Yeah, well I can go to well, 750 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is playing great Gronk is one of the 751 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: best football players on the planet. Julian Edelman is great, 752 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: Dion Lewis remains a great weapon. I don't know what 753 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: else to tell you. They build a big lead and 754 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: then they turn it over to the Garrett Blunt and 755 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: have him smashed people. It's amazing that Tom Brady now, 756 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: I believe this was his ninth game over fifty points 757 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: for his career, which is more than nineteen different NFL franchise. 758 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: That's an amazing that. Well, they've had the two thousand 759 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: seven offenses, one of the most iconic offenses in history. 760 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: He's on pace for almost twelve more yards this year 761 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: than night than he had in that year. You're gonna 762 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: get a little bit more of that talk now. They 763 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: play the Cowboys next week, I believe. Actually, I think 764 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: they have a buy and then the Cowboys, so you're 765 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna get them deep into the season with some 766 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: nice little offensive numbers and people talking about to that. 767 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't see this offense slowing down. Scott Fagita, the 768 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: old Saints linebacker Brown's linebacker, said it's the most methodical, 769 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: efficient offense he's seen since he's been playing against them, 770 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: and following them out of the Patriots. That was the 771 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: other part of my bold prediction, which is bold, whether 772 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: you guys give me credit or not, that this will 773 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: be the week now where we start hearing this talk 774 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: about is this Patriots offense up to snuff with all 775 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: those other teams? How great? This will be lucky to 776 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: hear that talking's dad, You're gonna hear, well, what about 777 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: them running up the score? I don't on professional football 778 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: players saying that. I mean, I think, Dan, that is 779 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: the part of your action that you were dead on about, 780 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: because well, okay, I guess I'm a little less concerned 781 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: about the first half of that because they're rolling up 782 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: forties something points every week. But Greg, I mean you 783 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: you kind of checked out from the Patriots after the 784 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl win. You know, they've sort of done everything 785 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: they check, and you've got to realize, I mean, they're 786 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: they've got to be looked at his d FC favored 787 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: to go right back to the Super Bowl and do 788 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: it again. I mean, where's where are you? I'm enjoying it. 789 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: I didn't check. Why wouldn't I It's great, I do. 790 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: I do remember that the way they start season doesn't 791 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: necessarily have much of a connection with the way they 792 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: end season, so it's fun to see. But in two 793 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: thousand seven, when they entered the playoffs, they weren't playing 794 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: any better than six or seven Patriots eighteen and at 795 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: one point, right, I know, but by the time they 796 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: got to December, they were not nearly as good a team. 797 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: My point is, seasons these games, I don't have a narrative. 798 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't need to have a narrative they were to 799 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: know they weren't playing well. I mean, they weren't playing 800 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: great in December and into the playoffs that year. I 801 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: think that play away from going nineteen and oh and 802 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: be one of the greatest teams of the any sport anywhere. Absolutely. 803 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: My point is they've gone into the playoffs in two 804 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: thousand ten and two thousand and fourteen and two like 805 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: those are those are all good teams that keep track 806 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: of all the playoff teams. I mean, Greg, we feel 807 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: for you. I thought the use of Dion Lewis today 808 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: was interesting to Bill Belichick, basically conceding that he's how 809 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: valuable he is. Lagatt Blunt didn't see a snap in 810 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: the first quarter. Nobody did except Dean Lewis, while the 811 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: game was in reach. Lewis was the every down back, 812 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: and then as soon as it gets to be a blowout, 813 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: Belichicks like, this guy's too valuable to risk injuring I'm 814 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna put him blunt and kill the clock. When West 815 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: sees Deon Lewis on Tinder, swipe right, he's in. He's 816 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: in the stable, boys. I'm just pointing out how good 817 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: he's been. Lewis A lot of undefeated teams with the 818 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: Patriots may be the best at least in the a 819 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: f C. Now, this is the part of the show 820 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: where we say the hi hi to our friend. She 821 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: is She's from NFL. Now, she has blonde hair. She 822 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: has three syllables in her name, first and last. She 823 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: is very successful and we like her. She is Colleen Wolf. 824 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: It is Kelley just put the thumbs up behind the glass, like, 825 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: how is this happening to me? T D in his 826 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: mind wanted to have a scenario and I like it. 827 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: I love the song Young Monday. Check out his stuff 828 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: at Young Monday. I think it's the only song he's 829 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 1: ever released. But it's you know, it's it's a killer. Uh. 830 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: T D wanted to Colleen to be dancing as well, 831 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: but it just didn't happen TD. What happened there? I 832 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Colleen, let me down. It's all good though. 833 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: All right, Colleen, can you join us and maybe we 834 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: can work past this. There it is and you know 835 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: when you hear the owl, they can only be one thing. 836 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf he's in the studio, Studio sixty six. Welcome 837 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: back to the Around the NFL podcast. Good to have you. Yeah, 838 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: I mean, listen when Colin comes in, she brings in 839 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: a ray of sunshine and let's face it, the blood 840 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: red moon tonight it is. I'm excited about it. I'm 841 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: finally I'm happy I have someone to talk about the 842 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: blood moon. I did not realize Dan that you were 843 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: like plugged into lunar cycles. I don't know, but it 844 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: is exciting. It's it doesn't happen a lot. And Colleen 845 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: references before she came on, and so now I feel energized. 846 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Blood moon stuff thoughts. I have no idea what you're talking. 847 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: I know, let's just go, let's talk. Let's get right 848 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: into games. Collin. You're gonna help us out a little bit. 849 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some football with you. Feel free to 850 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: jump in whatever you know how it goes. Now, all right, 851 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: let's start with your native Philadelphia region. We'll start with 852 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: that team, the Eagles, who are in the win column. 853 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's team took advantage of four Jets turnovers and 854 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: seventeen win at the Meadow Ends, and uh, listen, if 855 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: you're a Jets fan, this cannot surprise you. This was 856 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: the typical Jets performance. You win two games in a row, 857 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: get the fan base excited, you know, winless team coming 858 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: into your building, and you lay an egg. That's so 859 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: they did four turnovers to the Eagles credit. They took 860 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: advantage of the Jet sloppy play, and there you go. 861 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: The Eagles one and to avoid a killer oh and 862 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: three start uh. Sam Bradford plays okay, could have been 863 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: better with some better uh hands by his running backs, 864 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: who otherwise played very well. But the Eagles are in 865 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: the wind column. The Jets fault two and one. Colleen, 866 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Man? I did not expect this 867 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: at all. I thought, for sure, just watching the Eagles 868 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: the last two weeks and then seeing how the Jets 869 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: defense was, that this was going to be a complete 870 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: and total embarrassment. But somehow it was not. And Ryan 871 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: Matthews he did great. He I mean besides the fumble 872 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: and that almost really he almost gave the game away. 873 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: He's lucky that that didn't happen, but he was effective. 874 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: Sprowls looked really good on that punt return. Then you 875 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: had Ryan Fitzpatrick who threw for fifty eight times. I mean, 876 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: he just keeps throwing the ball. Plus Brendon Marshall the 877 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: lateral to No. One. Yeah, Brendon Marshall. Brendon Marshall. This 878 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: is why you never trust the box score because Brendon 879 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: Marshall had over a hundred yards again, had a touchdown 880 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: for the third straight game. And yes, he gives the 881 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 1: Jets a legitimate number one, but he contributed a big 882 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: time to the loss he had. As you'll see him 883 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: Blooper reels his Jets initiation moment at seventeen nothing attempts 884 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: to lateral after a long reception that gets recovered by 885 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: the Eagles and they go in and score to put 886 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: the game away. At the end of the second quarter. 887 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: And then at the end of the game, with the 888 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: Jets trailing by two scores, Marshall let's a pass go 889 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: right through his fingers that results in Ryan Fitzpatrick interception 890 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: that basically seals the game late in the in the 891 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And here's the problem, Greg, and I think 892 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: all of us have talked about Ryan Fitzpatrick and a 893 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: man that has limitations as a passer. They can't fall 894 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: behind like this because he simply doesn't have the skills 895 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: to bring a team back with his arm. You cannot 896 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: go down field. Uh. Granted, there were no Eric Decker, 897 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: which hurt. Chris Ivory didn't play. He was too beat 898 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: up and they couldn't run the ball, which didn't help matters. 899 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: But when he has to go downfield and he has 900 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: to put it in tight spaces, he simply can't and 901 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: that's poison for a team that falls behind a couple 902 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,959 Speaker 1: of scores. Well, they didn't win the turn They didn't 903 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: get five turnovers in a game for the first time. 904 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't win that way each week. Instead, 905 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: this time they were on the other side of it. 906 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: They really haven't had a game all season where if 907 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: you look at the yardage where there was much difference 908 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: between them and the other team, I mean the Eagles 909 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: one because they had turnover. Sam Bradford had four point 910 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: two yards per attempt. I don't know if anyone watching 911 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: this game, like, do you feel better about Sam Bradford 912 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: for a little a little bit because dropped a perfectly 913 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: place passed that would have been an eight yard touchdown 914 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: and then his stats look totally different. But and Bradford also, 915 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: you know, he had moments where he didn't look good 916 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: at all. But this was an improvement from week two 917 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: to week three, which granted isn't saying a lot, but 918 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: you're not gonna hear anything about Mark Sange's. Plus, the 919 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: offensive line looked better too. They had a hundred and 920 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: eight yards passing that's not NFL level, so I think 921 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia that's going to give him a talking point 922 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: this week. But they did run the ball finally. Here's 923 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's the difference. Here's the thing that the 924 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: Eagles have the defending offensive player of the year on 925 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: their team. Didn't play with the hamstring in Jude today 926 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: and they were better without it. This team with Darren 927 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: Sprowls and Ryan Matthews, that's a fine one too punch 928 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: and that's really all they need. I'm not even sure 929 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: I can imagine them being like DeMarco, take it easy, 930 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: make sure you get all the way back because they're 931 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: not they're not hurting for DeMarco Murray. It's only three games, 932 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: but the game film shows that DeMarco Murray is a 933 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: forty million dollar boondoggle. I mean, you've given you're given 934 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: this guy the ball. They're terrible in the two games 935 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: he played, and he looks like the slowest running back 936 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: in the league. And then in the one game he 937 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: doesn't play, Ryan Matthews looks like he's a great fit 938 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: for the offense against the good front seven. That's the 939 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: name of the NFL films, End of the Year yearbook. 940 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: You know that they do the forty million dollar boondogg. 941 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why it's all about DeMarco Murray. I 942 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: find it funny that, like Jets players were saying that 943 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: they were part of a crowd, that we're saying that 944 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: the Eagles, the way they run, it's relatively simple, and 945 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: the teams have caught up and you know when they 946 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: line up a certain way what they're gonna do. But 947 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: then they are the ones that went up and gave 948 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: up a hundred and twenty three yards what I thought 949 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 1: was the best run defense in the league. The Jets 950 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: actually if you look game to game for the Jets. 951 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: Defensively against the run, they haven't been great. Even on 952 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: Monday Night against the Cults, they should have. They were 953 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: having issues with Frank Gore, but pet Hamilton didn't do 954 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: a good job of this game plan at all. I thought, so, 955 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: I think that's something to keep an eye on with them. 956 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Maybe listen, this is this is a team that's not 957 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna blow anybody out, and if they fall behind, if 958 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: they fall behind, they're done. I like that. It didn't 959 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: take long to ask whether Ryan Fitzpatrick is still their quarterback. 960 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: An he is, Todd Boll said yes, but now their 961 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: formula is the same as the Bills. You have to 962 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: get up early, run the ball, and your quarterback should 963 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: only throw it twenty five or thirty times a game. 964 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly has got to be really relieved too, because 965 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: the city would have just imploded if they start. Yeah, 966 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: that's very true. All right, let's move on. This is 967 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: not a drill. The Oakland Raiders have a winning record. 968 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: In late September, led by another strong performance from Derek Carr, 969 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders jumped out to a big lead held on 970 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: late a win over the Cleveland Browns. Colleen. The Raiders, 971 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: they're not a total embarrassment there. Two in one and 972 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: they're playing the Bears next week, so they three and one, 973 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: which is insane. Derek Carr, he looked pretty good. He 974 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 1: had some nice throws and he wasn't sacked at all, 975 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: which the Browns the week before had sacked Mariona seven times, 976 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: I think, so that was an improvement. Octavius Murray he 977 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: had his best game yet yardage wise, a hundred and 978 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 1: thirty four yards. And then you have the Oakland defense 979 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: that sack mccount five times. All I heard about afternoon 980 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: was a Mariti Cooper. He must have looked phenomenal. Yeah, 981 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: he was great too. I think he had about oh god, 982 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: he had this catch. It was a forty yard catch 983 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: one on one against Joe Hayden. It was beautiful. He 984 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: beat him straight up. He did not have a touchdown, 985 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: but he did have a hundred and thirty four receiving yards. 986 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: He had a big I might be eating some crow 987 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: on Derek Carr and how he's playing so far this year. 988 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: Obviously coming off a good game, you know this is 989 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: this was another one. But part of it is, you know, 990 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: he has guys people making plays for him, Cooper making 991 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: place for him. Michael Crabtree could turn out to be 992 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: one of the better free agent bargains of the year. 993 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 1: He didn't do a lot today, but he's a factor. 994 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: And I and I really would be in Crow about 995 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: Bill Musgrave because that was the part of the whole equation. 996 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,439 Speaker 1: I didn't really get Bill Musgrave and changing the offense. Uh, 997 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: you know when you change coaches. He has almost no 998 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 1: history of success as an offensive coordinator. But they're dialing 999 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: up some big place. Last year it's all dink and dunk, 1000 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: and this year they're getting some big place. Mark as 1001 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: a vegetarian, what is the equivalent of eating crow I 1002 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: mean it would be like a bird made out of 1003 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: like tomatoes and weeds. And number two, number two? Are 1004 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: you missing the Cleveland Browns so far? Well, I've watched 1005 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: every one of their games. And my problem with the 1006 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: Browns and this is we talked about Kyle Shanahan and 1007 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: what he's good at and what his absence means for 1008 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: this team. Last year, you had the maybe third fourth, 1009 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: second third best fourth line in the game. You pounded 1010 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: people with your line, You ran the ball well with 1011 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah Crowell, and you beat teams up and last week 1012 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: they went out and they also played well on defense 1013 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: with sacks and they were able to stop the run. 1014 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: Everything you say that you're going to be in this offseason. 1015 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, we don't have a quarterback, but we're gonna 1016 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 1: be tough on both lines. Play like a brown blah 1017 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: blah blah. Well, what I see is Joe Hayden can't 1018 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: cover Brandon Marshall and you can't cover Marii Cooper. All Right, 1019 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: you see the most overrated corner for the way he 1020 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: is hoisted up and when you put him, if it's 1021 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: not a j Green. He has problem with a lot 1022 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: of receivers. They cannot run the ball. They run the 1023 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: ball for thirty nine yards today you get no sacks. 1024 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: This is this You're at home against the Raiders and 1025 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: you blow the game. Not to mention, they were driving 1026 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: down the field to try and tie the game and 1027 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: Josh McCollen throws a pig. Charles Woodson, who's gonna be 1028 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: thirty nine next week. He's had an interception in eighteen 1029 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: straight seasons, tying Darryl Green. Uh. You know what's so funny? 1030 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: That was a good stat me to that's I'm getting 1031 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: out of here. You have pivoted on that step. Very 1032 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: human delivery. We were just you know, that's day. Can 1033 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: you play a theme song again? There is this will 1034 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: give me my energy back. But I had a really 1035 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: nice follow up point about this game. But then when 1036 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: you guys all chuckle, it wasn't actually, but since you 1037 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: brought it up, I will say that, you know, as 1038 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: the last fan standing at the Around the NFL podcast, 1039 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm supportive of the Jets, uh and a loss like 1040 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: the Steaks the Eagles that was a terrible loss at home. 1041 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: And this is where the frustration comes for me a 1042 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: little bit. Mark is that you get to skate by 1043 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: and not have to deal with this loss. I have 1044 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: to the Raiders say this every podcast. It's not about 1045 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: you did, and I still do feel I don't. It's frustrating. Yeah, 1046 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: I've bothered me. I don't like seeing them crumble this way. 1047 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 1: This was a chance for us to talk about them 1048 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: as the two in one team, but they can't get 1049 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: it done. They're not the team that can get it done. 1050 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: We talked about our theory before the podcast. I mean, 1051 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: I think the anger or the frustration with the Browns, 1052 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: it's now just coming out in other areas, So like 1053 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: you're you're getting more angry about the Ravens. A lot 1054 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: of hot takes very few. My theory is that, yeah, 1055 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: the anger has to go somewhere, and it's gone in 1056 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 1: the direction of the Ravens, who you read Route heartily 1057 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: against every Sunday, more than ever before. And then Peyton Manning, 1058 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: who's an old man, he's basically a senior citizen. Abuse 1059 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: the way you got. It's not like it's a new 1060 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: thing that I don't like them, but you seem to 1061 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: really revel in it. If you can just keep creating 1062 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: narratives that aren't even accurate, go for it. Mark and 1063 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. He's not. He's no longer 1064 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: a fun quarterback to watch it to be what is 1065 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: it have to be harrisy to say that, No, No, 1066 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: of course he's eat I mean he's I find it 1067 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: fun just because it's different. It's like what I've seen 1068 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: exactly what Peyton Manning's But we're getting ahead of ourselves. 1069 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: It is insane. We should just give the Raiders a 1070 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: lot of credit, but four hundred and sixty nine yards 1071 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: of offense after the performance they had last weekend, thinking 1072 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: This was what the Browns were supposed to be halfly 1073 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: decent at a home defense and put up that many 1074 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: yards is crazy. It's humbulous. I remembered what I was 1075 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna say. Now you mentioned play like a Brown. And 1076 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: this isn't really a shot at Mike Patton or anything, 1077 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: but like, can we just put put to bed all 1078 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: these teams, these disciples from other coaching trees, then going 1079 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: somewhere like play like a raven, play like a jet, 1080 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: play like a bill, play like a Brown. That stuff 1081 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: is predicated on like some type of rich history. The 1082 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: Browns are literally have the least amount of history of 1083 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: any team in the league. From there's no play like 1084 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: a Brown. Don't it should be don't play like a Brown. Yeah, 1085 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Stop playing like every Brown before you 1086 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 1: start playing like like a Brown means literally suck. Play 1087 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: like a jet is also not Plus, it's like, hey, hey, Mike, 1088 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: we watched Hard Knocks. That was Rex's thing. We know 1089 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: that's all over the jet with a different four. Just 1090 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: do that so we know that for it on fourth 1091 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: and goal today, guys, he did. That's good more you 1092 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: can say for John Fox. Progress. Let's move on to 1093 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, a team that desperately needed to win 1094 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: and they got it because listen, when you get to 1095 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: pay the Bears in two thousand fifteen, it's it's close 1096 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: to the gimmes that you can get it to nothing 1097 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: win at West Clink. No, well, yes, that's what local. 1098 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 1: Come on him, It's that's correct. Mark. Nobody gave the Dakota, 1099 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: the Dakota class and Bears a chance in Seattle, and 1100 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: everybody was right. Dakota Classon is at the quarterback Matt Matt, 1101 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: It's the last name is Clawson. Jimmy is a zero 1102 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: factor through for sixty three yards in the game, ten possessions, 1103 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: ten punts. This game was over. I mean it was 1104 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: over before Begareh was. Yeah. There was not a moment 1105 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: where the Bears threatened on any level, and it was 1106 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: very frustrating to watch because, number one, you got nothing 1107 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 1: to lose if you're the Chicago Bears. John Fox could 1108 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: not have rolled out and Adam Gaze a more conservative 1109 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 1: game plan. That was it said, once we're down to nothing, 1110 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: we're just gonna sit on the ball. We're not going 1111 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: to win this game. We know it. And that's how 1112 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: they prepared on offense and looked the entire way not 1113 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: one thing happened on offense and suggested we are going 1114 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: to try to change this, do something we didn't expect. 1115 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: Get aggressive. They did literally zilch. So you're just gonna 1116 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: punt a game in the NFL. We're not even trying 1117 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 1: to win. When we saw John Fox punt down twenty 1118 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: five points or whatever it was past mid get him 1119 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: out of here and take his coaching job away out here. 1120 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: That was in the Super Bowl, we know he's gonna 1121 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: do it in week four. I mean he's just counting them. 1122 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: They punted on straight possessions. They punted what at midfield 1123 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: on fourth and one down? Give me a great totally outclassed. 1124 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: A bad job by John Fox, but also the best 1125 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: thing he can do. Bottom out, Go to and fourteen, 1126 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,959 Speaker 1: Go one and fifteen. Shift j Cutler out of town. 1127 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: Get the top quarterback in the draft in your building 1128 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: and see if you can make a start of a 1129 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: new something fresh. They need to reboot the machine, So 1130 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: do not win six games this year to get that quarterback. 1131 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: This wasn't even his worst coaching job against the Seahawks. 1132 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls getting knocked out you will never we should. 1133 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: First of all, that was an illusion to Super Bowl 1134 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: forty eight, which with John Foxes and the Deer as 1135 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 1: a coach. That was not pretty. TD in my ear 1136 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: telling me he wants to me to point out a 1137 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: Sierra tweet the girl of uh Russell Wilson. She's a 1138 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: pop star. Go Mr number three, go At Seahawks, hashtag 1139 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: go Hawks more more more, Thomas Rawls lest Sierra TD, 1140 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: why are you so fascinated by that relationship? I'm not 1141 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: fascinating by guys. I'm sorry that I'm trying to be 1142 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: you guys closest to the world today. I'm sorry. Talk 1143 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: about football all you want, Just talk about football. The 1144 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: only thing they're attached to culturally is soccer and Sierra's 1145 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: fake relationship with Russell Wilson human robot. You know, I 1146 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: have issues with that relationship, a lot of issues, but 1147 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm just just keeping what's going on with your relationship? 1148 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 1: Are you back with that girl? Whoa whoa, whoa whoa. 1149 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: We're getting personal now, ye as a personal question. Well, 1150 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about you're gonna throw in Sierra tweets. 1151 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: You gotta get ready for it. So you had a 1152 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: girlfriend that was lived like an hour a wain I 1153 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: think broke it off, and then I heard some rumors 1154 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: that they were back together. All right, guys, let's move on. 1155 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: That's all right. This John Fox, this John Fox coach team. 1156 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 1: There's some sentiment out here that they've had some tough 1157 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: breaks and they've played guys close oh and three with 1158 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: a minus forty nine point differential, the most in the NFL. 1159 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: So they're the worst team. Stop with this. They're not 1160 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: that bad stuff, don't you guys see the Bears fan 1161 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: that just took his jersey off and left the game. 1162 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: These afternoon games were so awful. At one point, the 1163 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: winners were outscoring their opponents one oh five to fourteen. 1164 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: It was right, I won the one takeaway Now I 1165 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: have just kind of looking at this game. Is Marshall 1166 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 1: on Lynch not being ready for the game which always happens, 1167 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: which is bizarre, and not being able to finish the game. 1168 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: And if you look at what he's done the first 1169 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, like he has not. He has not 1170 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: looked quite like Marshawn Lynch. I know the offensive line 1171 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: is a problem too, but long term, we thought that 1172 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: last September two, right, and then he played great. He 1173 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: spent half of September on an exercise bike last year. 1174 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: It's not healthy. They wasn't checked in first. I mean, 1175 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: you didn't play the second the worst rushing total since 1176 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Not to impugne on the professionalism or 1177 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: integrity of Jay Cutler, but can't you totally see him 1178 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: like being like a hamstring still bothering the coach. I'll 1179 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 1: take another month off. Well, if the coach is punting games, 1180 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: why do they care if the quarterbacks gonna punt a game? 1181 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. The Minnesota Vikings harass Philip 1182 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: Rivers into two turnovers and a thirty one fourteen home 1183 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: win over the Chargers. Colleen Adrian Peterson a d all day. 1184 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what you call, but with delivered a 1185 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 1: vintage performance indity he did, and he actually didn't really 1186 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: get going until later in the game. Um. But it 1187 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 1: was sort of the same thing with Teddy Bridgewater too. 1188 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: They both kind of had these like sluggish starts and 1189 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: then it was like they clicked at the same time. 1190 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: I feel like they need each other and we'll definitely 1191 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater needs a p but I mean he had 1192 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: this forty three yard touchdown and he just ran straight 1193 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: over Eric Wattle. I mean, and I feel like I'm 1194 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: sensing a trend. Does he still have the weddler with Peterson? Yeah? 1195 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: I think he might be protecting himself a little easy, 1196 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: want business decisions. That's a couple of times this season 1197 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: that tow. Does Adrian Peterson still have the top shelf 1198 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: speed that he once had or is he doing it 1199 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: more combination of talent and a little bit of guy? 1200 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: He looks like that, like the exact same to me, 1201 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: except that long pass he had last week. He didn't 1202 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: have like that fig here. But his explosiveness between like 1203 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: the tan yard the tan yard short shuttle bird, He's 1204 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: got that. Definitely. His big plays have been to the outside. 1205 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: He had a couple where he gets that Adrian Peterson 1206 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: gallop going you know what I mean, This starts going 1207 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: around the corner. And I mean that's where his big 1208 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: plays had been. So where are we a little disappointed 1209 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,919 Speaker 1: Colling by what we've seen from Teddy Bridgewater this year? 1210 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of I had a little bit 1211 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: higher of expectations for him, so a lot of us. 1212 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: But I think when a p is in there and 1213 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: doing well. He does, so as long as they're not 1214 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: calling passes right out of the gate, then they sort 1215 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: of need to adjust to that and see that and 1216 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: not force it with Teddy because you can tell that 1217 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: he needs to be a game manager and lean on 1218 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: the run. I'm surprised by that though, because I thought 1219 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: late last year he had games where there was no 1220 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. There wasn't always a run game, and he 1221 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: played better than Derek Carry, played better than a lot 1222 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: of the young quarterbacks. And it's not a regression, but 1223 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: it seems like the offense has obviously changed completely. Well, 1224 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: it's two out of three games he's he's struggled. Last 1225 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: week he was just about perfect, but you know he 1226 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: had an intercept in in this game. He should have 1227 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: had a couple. He was playing body and it didn't 1228 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: matter that. I'm more disappointed that Chargers didn't take advantage 1229 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: of the slow start by Minnesota and they ended up 1230 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: getting blasted this offense. I know we talked a lot 1231 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: about bad offensive lines, but I think the Chargers offensive 1232 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: line is at a point where they're just like not 1233 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: operable as an offense, and it's like holding the whole 1234 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: team back. Yeah, and I think with Teddy to Jason 1235 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: Barrette he left with an injury, and then brand Flowers 1236 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: he was already not playing, so that also helped him 1237 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: too later the game. All right, and let's move to 1238 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: what do we learn from Thursday on the podcast? Is 1239 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 1: it Miami? Where's the where's the Dolphins stadium? It's Palm Gardens, 1240 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: Miami Gardens, something like that. The Buffalo Bills went down 1241 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: to Miami, got their doors blown off. Excuse me, really 1242 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: struggling here with this game. The Buffalo Bills went down 1243 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: to Miami and blew the doors off the listless Dolphins, 1244 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: jumping out to a twenty seven nothing lead and coasting 1245 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: to a fourteen win West. The Dolphins have all the 1246 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: makings of a preseason Darling turned regular season dud Well. 1247 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: And this is another one that Dan hands Is called 1248 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: just to just to tell the truth here, Dan never 1249 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: had any faith in Joe Philbin and if he listened 1250 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: to Handsome Hank, Henry Hudson or DP downstairs, he was 1251 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: He had a couple of tweets during the game that 1252 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: was just basically no leadership. They're getting nothing from their 1253 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: head coach. The offense isn't doing anything, and Dominican Sue 1254 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: is paid a lot of money, but he's not showing 1255 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: any leadership. This team is listless. Their offensive line is 1256 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 1: a huge disaster. Which when's the last time we talked 1257 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: about the Dolphins and that wasn't the case. It seems 1258 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: like every year the offensive line is holding them back. 1259 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: There's no sustaining element to this offense whatsoever, because they 1260 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: can't establish a ground game and Ryan Tannehill still can't 1261 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: pass beyond twenty yards with the with Brandon Albert downtown 1262 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: right that that was a huge loss, and I don't 1263 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: think it gets a lot lower than getting drubbed by 1264 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven points at home and watching Rick Richie Incognito 1265 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: laughing it up after the game on the field, old 1266 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: old friends and some old coaches. And I just saw 1267 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: that and I thought, if I'm a Dolphins fan watching that, 1268 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not watching anymore. Who was named captain 1269 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: today by Rex? Of course, naturally, very rarely is their 1270 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: decision made in football that you're one sure and collectively 1271 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: everyone agrees is a terrible decision. And what happened I 1272 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: think it was weeks seventeen last year when Steven Ross 1273 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: announced that Joe Philbin was coming back. I think everybody 1274 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: was like, wait what because three years without the playoffs, 1275 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: they brought him back, spent all this money, but it's 1276 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the same systemic problems because Joe Philbin is not a 1277 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: leader at this level as a head coach, and it's 1278 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: clearly coming out. This team is We talked about in 1279 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: the preseason that this could be a top ten offense 1280 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: and a top ten defense, and they're not close in 1281 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: either realm. What's confusing is that they have the talent. 1282 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 1: They've got guys like Richard Matthews, who has been buried 1283 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 1: on their bench for two years because Joe Philbin doesn't 1284 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 1: like him, and he's got back to back one yard 1285 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: games today at two touchdowns. They've got Jarvis Landry who's good. 1286 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron's a very good tight end. They've got great 1287 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: pieces and they can't put it all together. Well, this 1288 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: is the point. Last season, Joe Philbin threatened essentially to 1289 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: bench Ryan Tannehill right before they went to London. They're 1290 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: going to London this week. He should pull that move again, 1291 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: just just threatened to Benchum should thank himself, doesn't some 1292 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: of this fall on and I hate to say this, 1293 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: but Bill Laser, I mean, it was four weeks ago 1294 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: that we were saying, why aren't twenty five teams running 1295 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles offense? Because we're so enamored with it? And 1296 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: maybe we have our answer. It's it's this is Miami's 1297 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: version of it, and it's not working at all. Right. 1298 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: I would put that at the fee of the offensive line. 1299 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 1: They just can't get anything going. It's crazy. I mean, 1300 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: it's crazy. They're giving up the We should give some 1301 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: credit to the Bills here, and that's a big bounce 1302 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: back performance Tyrod Taylor, big game. And it's crazy that 1303 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Carlos Williams has a hundred ten yards on twelve carries 1304 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: in this game while the guy making eleven million dollars, 1305 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: uh and it's not healthy had sixty yards on eleven carries. 1306 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: That only happens football. There's no NBA scenario where like 1307 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: the guy making twenty million dollars a year doesn't do 1308 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: anything and the guy that he is not healthy. That's 1309 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Rex exactly. That's fine. He's out on the 1310 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: field and he looked pretty good last week. But more 1311 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: evidence of my narrative, as you say, Mark that your 1312 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: anger for the Browns is going elsewhere. You're really down 1313 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: on Rex Ryan, you don't like him at all. Personally, 1314 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: had a herd to see Rex out coaching Bill Laser. 1315 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Who's your boy? I thought? I thought, Ryan, this is 1316 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: the kind of game where if he wants to show 1317 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,479 Speaker 1: the Bills fans like we are plugged in and we're 1318 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: we aren't just the team from last week. This is 1319 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: a perfect game. He did a great job of coaching 1320 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: this on the on the way and the way turf, 1321 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and like this is a big bounce came bounce back 1322 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: game for Rex. Ryan. Not gonna rip red for that. 1323 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Another narrative, just jan keeping it's week three, we can 1324 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: we can reassess you each week. Rest. That didn't sound genuine, 1325 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: those comments. I think the rage boils within. Listen, Tyrod Taylor, 1326 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna get out of here without talking about what 1327 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: he did. Twenty one nine who watched the sin closely 1328 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: did a good job. He did a very good job. 1329 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: First Quarterbacks have the show is trying to defend against 1330 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: this attack from Dan all show long. He's got the 1331 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: fire in his nonsense. Tyrod Taylor. First Pills Quarterbacks one 1332 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly to start a season with seven touchdowns and 1333 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: completion rate. He played very well today, had a rough 1334 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: spot in the third quarter, but played really well for 1335 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,919 Speaker 1: the most part. I like this a f C East 1336 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: out of division schedule. That's why I had the Bills 1337 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs before the season, and I think they're 1338 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: they're going to be the team. I know the Jets 1339 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,919 Speaker 1: have looked okay so far, but I think the whole 1340 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: a FC East has an opportunity because the out of 1341 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 1: division schedules nice, especially for the non Patriots teams to 1342 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: ride you know, ten or eleven wins even if they 1343 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: don't win the division. Well, Greg knows that they're gonna 1344 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots gonna keep dropping bombs on each one of 1345 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 1: these teams, none of them. These other a c S 1346 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: teams could end up winning eleven games and feel good 1347 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: about themselves and they'll still finish four games behind the Patriots. 1348 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Bills have the longest playoff out in professional sports? Is 1349 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 1: that right or just in the at least? Either way, 1350 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: it's it's a long time, so they'd be happy with 1351 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: the plan. Colleen, we have to say goodbye to you now. 1352 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: We love having you on the show. Here's here's a 1353 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: here's a plan come back again next week. It's not. 1354 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: By the way, you can check out Colleen on NFL 1355 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: now she's she's doing some great work over there. So 1356 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: the wolf will now scurry off to that end of 1357 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: the world and she'll be back again next week. Thank you, Colleens. 1358 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: Outgoes Colleen. And now we talk about the final game 1359 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: of Sunday Sunday Night Football and matchup between the Broncos 1360 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and the Lions, and a game which you think the 1361 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: lines need in their building, that maybe we'll show up 1362 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: get the job done. Doesn't work out that way because 1363 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning throws for four yards and two touchdowns and 1364 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the Broncos continue their stifling defense and route to a 1365 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: twelve victory over the now oh and three Lions. And uh, 1366 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: you know what we saw again today, Greg was Gary 1367 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Kubiak saying, Okay, I know it doesn't work with thirty 1368 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: nine year old Peyton Manning. Let's let Peyton do some 1369 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: paytent things and not again, he's not two Manning, but 1370 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: he's doing enough and the defense is doing the rest. 1371 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Little pistol formation back in our lives, which is good 1372 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: to plus three yards, I mean, a much better statistical 1373 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: game and when I think of this game, I think 1374 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: these two teams have been as consistent as any two 1375 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 1: teams in the entire league so far this year. Basically 1376 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: every Broncos game has been the same. The defense dominates 1377 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: and the offense, which is slowly getting better, does enough 1378 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: to win. And every Lions game is the same, which is, 1379 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: the offensive line plays terrible and their defense isn't good 1380 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: enough anymore to make up for it, and they can't 1381 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 1: run the ball and now they're owing three yeah every week. Yeah, 1382 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: the Lions are disappointing. We couldn't have known that they 1383 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: would be without DeAndre Levy, and we didn't know the 1384 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: offensive line was this problematic, but their inability to consistently 1385 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: move the ball is I mean, Matthew Stafford, when when 1386 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: is he gonna show us that he's better than any 1387 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Dalton m Well, I mean we DeAndre Levies is part 1388 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: of it, but the offense has a lot of parts 1389 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: and it's not working. It's ridiculous. This is a terrible 1390 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: job by the lines without Levy, of course, but you 1391 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: need to man up in your building on Sunday night, 1392 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: staring down oh and three and deliver a performance. And 1393 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: that's why I picked the lines. I don't even like 1394 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 1: this lines team. I hate the way they looked in 1395 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the first two weeks, but I thought, if anything, will 1396 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,479 Speaker 1: show a little spine and get a win to stay 1397 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,959 Speaker 1: alive this season. And now they fall to oh and three. 1398 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: And here's the scary thing. Now, if you're going back 1399 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: to the Broncos, their defense, I don't think anybody doubts 1400 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: this is a real deal defensive best Broncos defense maybe 1401 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 1: ever potentially here. And if Peyton Manning can just is 1402 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 1: figuring it out. And he again, he's not gonna throw 1403 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns, but if he's figuring out and this offense 1404 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: becomes proficient, they couldn't run the ball at all today. 1405 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: But if they could just figure it out enough and 1406 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: be a top fifteen offense and a number of top 1407 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: three defense, this team is really good. Big props though, 1408 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: to Kubiak, because there was, you know, comments that were 1409 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: shaded in the way of I'm not going to change 1410 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: what I know and what works for me. But then 1411 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: that changed more as the game drew closer. I give him, 1412 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, flexibility as a coach in today's NFL is 1413 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 1: so important for guys that came from other schemes. The 1414 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: league is changing. You got to put man in a 1415 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: place to succeed. If they didn't do that, Denver would 1416 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 1: have melted. I mean this this city would have gone crazy. 1417 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: I think Chip Kelly would be abandoning his offensive scheme 1418 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,799 Speaker 1: after two weeks. I don't know. You know that Denver 1419 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,719 Speaker 1: defense is special. When David Bruton is making big plays 1420 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: speak after week. I mean, the interception that he made 1421 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter was an incredible play and was 1422 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: at the point in the game where the outcome is 1423 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: certainly in doubt. He's made big plays each week, Guys 1424 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 1: like Brandon Marshall's making big plays each week, and then 1425 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: the Stars are playing like stars. De Marcus where to 1426 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,759 Speaker 1: this point I would say, has been the best outside 1427 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: pass rusher in the NFL. He's not like we talked 1428 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 1: about Steve Smith earlier. Houston, He's I don't know so 1429 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,839 Speaker 1: far this year in terms of each game in Houston's 1430 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: gotta play as their game. Where has been on fire 1431 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: of three straight games. Talking about Peyton Manning figuring things out. 1432 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: I think one thing I noticed in this game that 1433 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: he did figure out. He had been missing downfield trying 1434 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: to hit Emmanuel Sanders and Damarius Thomas in stride this game. 1435 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: He put it up in the air and let them 1436 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 1: high point the ball and make contestant catches. So he's 1437 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 1: not really trying to hit him his dride. He's trying 1438 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 1: to allow them a chance to make plays on the ball. 1439 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: And they both came through with huge plays. I mean, 1440 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 1: he made his first completion of twenty plus yards tonight 1441 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 1: and in one thing. Denver's defense did all that and more, 1442 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 1: but Matthew Stafford was like one for eight against the 1443 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: pass rush. Matthew Stafford has to learn to settle down 1444 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 1: and make plays. And that's the problem. That's why it's 1445 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 1: hard to look at the Lions. I don't care what 1446 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 1: pretty things are surrounding Matthew Stafford. It's it's just hard 1447 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: to buy into them as a long term project. And 1448 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: with Peyton manning. One play is at the end of 1449 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: the game, when the game was hanging in the bows, 1450 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: seventelve third down, if the Lions can just force a 1451 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: field goal, it's a one possession game. With the Lions 1452 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 1: having the ball. Man and coins Art did a great 1453 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: job diagram me, but he saw the way the defense 1454 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: was going to attack. He set up the offensive line 1455 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: one way, he rolled out the other way and dropped 1456 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: a perfect pass to put the game away. And it 1457 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: was just an example of Peyton Manning being so much 1458 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: smarter than everyone's on the field and how much that 1459 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: can cover up as physical limitations. All right, I think 1460 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: the line of the night, and really the summary of 1461 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the Lion season came from your boy Al Michael's that 1462 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: that he said it. There weren't enough fans in the 1463 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: crowd to even have a cascade of booze. It was 1464 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: more like a light rein of booze. I mean, that's 1465 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: where the Lions are at. There not even hanging out 1466 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to the end of the game, but the ones that 1467 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 1: are there are miserable. Bringing Kiss Gave back into our 1468 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 1: lives is something more than a dishwashing detergent. And by 1469 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 1: the way, you know, everything changes, but nothing changes. Peyton 1470 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Manning and the Broncos three and no Tom Brady and 1471 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots three crash course. Baby. That's it for another 1472 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, our Week three 1473 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: recap edition. We will be back on Tuesday. We'll we'll 1474 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: talk about the Monday night game between the Chiefs and Packers. 1475 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Nailed it home run, so we'll recap 1476 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: that and then we'll start again. Mark, it's the cycle, 1477 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 1: only like a more weeks of this exactly. It's then 1478 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: one bine and then it's the don't sounds so miserable 1479 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 1: about it. Mark has to be back at working about 1480 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,680 Speaker 1: fourteen minutes. I'm not rolling in at eleven A in 1481 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 1: moorw So let's have a nice time. Everyone, get a 1482 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: good night's sleep. That's it. This is Dan hanss Oh. 1483 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Before we go behind the glass, we just gotta say, 1484 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: this is our last video show with the irishman Brandon 1485 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: to get there. He is, he's behind the glass. He's 1486 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: he's Irish, and he's proficient at his job and a 1487 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: gentleman and a funny, sneaky funny we've had on the 1488 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 1: mic there is is pretty funny too. But I'm just 1489 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: saying in terms of just dry humor. Notice that TV 1490 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: won't even give Brandon the headphones by the way, to 1491 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: say one thing, Brandon, you as he puts him on. Now, Brandon, 1492 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: you are going to be producing on Tuesday right and thursdays, 1493 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: so we got with two more shows excellent, and you know, 1494 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 1: just so you know, get ready, you might have something 1495 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 1: special for you for your last show. All right, fair enough, 1496 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: and that's it. There he goes the Irishman. Another good 1497 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 1: one going away, but hopefully it comes back. That's it 1498 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: for Sunday's edition to the Around the NFL podcast. We'll 1499 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 1: be back Tuesday, as I said, so make sure you 1500 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,640 Speaker 1: tune in and check us out on YouTube. This is 1501 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: Dan Hanson signing up for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, 1502 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 1: the Boss, and everybody on the glass Holden