WEBVTT - Sad to the Bone (with Jordan Temple) 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.040 Yeah, it would do a lot for you because they're 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.160 looking they're looking strong. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.479 You don't come back on here disrespecting my team again. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.160 I feel like every week there's some kind of caveat 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.080 to why can't we just be great? 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.599 Nah, there's no caveat, But they just look fucking They 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.240 look strong. But you guys look strong too. You know 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:25.400 it'll be a hell of a series. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.400 I don't believe you're not seeing it with your eyes. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.400 Laker's got a nigga name Lannie. I think it's over 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:36.080 for the Nuggets, but I don't know, bro Lani coming 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.600 off the bench and you know that nigga. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.080 Man, y'all don't fucked up, you know, Lannie out the cave. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.760 Nigga come off the bench like take a black and 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.479 mile from behind my ear, like, yo, hold this. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.640 They pulled out a lot of Loni yugi O card 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:05.720 and just slam that ship. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:19.600 Quality are racists. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:18.039 The laws, the money turn stuff. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:29.200 I can't tell me hey, hey, no, no, come back 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.360 with it. I'm not doing that. I'm not saying that President. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:33.680 I don't like you know. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:40.120 Look, we are documentarians, my friend. It's not our responsibility 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.600 to choose right and wrong. We simply are witnesses to 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.480 what's happening out in this world. And then you you 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.520 you have no right, sir, you have no right giving 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.640 some of the monsters you've referenced as we've. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:02:04.120 Tried to clean you keep doing all that. I don't no, 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:10.280 I'm sorry, continued super Welcome to a phenomenal episode of 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.880 My Mama Told Me the podcast when we dive deep 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.720 into the pockets of black conspiracies. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.520 And we finally work to prove that if the writers 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.560 are in fact going to get justice in this strike, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.399 they are going to need to employ the black Israelites. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.600 They're going to have to get them same people who 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:35.680 stood out for Kyrie and fixed his job somehow in 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:43.519 line with this, They're gonna need those bigots by their 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.560 side if they're ever gonna get justice. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.959 I'm like stink Kerman and I'm your man from a 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:53.880 congo as referenced by those goddamn Hebrew Israelites. They refuse 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.560 to acknowledge my racial makeup and I. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.320 Don't love it, are going to get you those writing 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.440 jobs back. You gotta make things. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:09.120 What's the logic behind this? What's the logic behind listen? 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.919 Brother makes to me, I just. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.639 Wanted to make sure logic matches up, because, as far 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.959 as I'm concerned, every black issue light is a member 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.840 of Job Corps and cannot read so. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.840 Writing, Well, here's what their job for them. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.919 YO, shout out to job Corps employing every dude who 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.760 was kind of good at basketball you needed somewhere to 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:39.680 go when the ball State scholarship went through, was there. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.280 For him when that d three walk on experience didn't 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.000 turn into something. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:50.160 When the job Corps, when the community college gym workouts 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.120 didn't work out. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.320 Turns out the coach didn't want me that bad. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:57.320 That's what I said. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:03.040 Yeah, I believe that what's missing in the strike, and 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.080 I've been out there a few times, marching and whatnot, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:11.480 But I believe that what's failing is a sick passion 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.160 that can only be found by the Hebrew Israelites. They're 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.599 They're the type of people that that will knock a 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.920 nigga out for disagreeing with them on on basic things. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.800 And I think that's the kind of bite we need 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.360 in this fight. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.799 You get that to get to go against the streamers, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.800 I think definitely you need a hit her I get. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:31.840 I think that's good. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.120 They'll punch a car window and then it's like, all right, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:42.320 now we got to negotiate. Now we gotta take this 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:43.040 to the table. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:50.839 Story structure, that's what you need. See enough both. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.280 I love that you're trying to get them in the room. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.080 I just thought we were employing them as like a mob. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.920 But you're like, naw, if they're gonna march, then they 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.080 got it right on on the next big program. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.200 That's yeah. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.479 They have to be eligible for streams too, Black israel Life, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.360 and he's streaming residuals. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:09.680 Too, you know what I mean. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.960 That's fair. We are almost five minutes into the podcast 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.119 and we haven't introduced our guests, despite this turning into 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.200 something far far more silly than I think we've ever 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.000 taken it. So good for us Fellas. He's he's phenomenal. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.479 He've already heard his voice, You've already heard his opinions 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.920 on the writers and the Black Israelites. He is a 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.960 he's a hilarious comedian. He's been a writer for Atlanta. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.000 He's been a writer for Marvelous Missus masl he is 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.320 currently a writer for Abbod Elementary. He's a dear friend. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:51.200 Give it up for Jordan Temple why fuck? Yeah, what 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:51.680 was that? 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.400 Ah, it's just a little bit of. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.760 Yeah, man, man press buttons. You don't you don't have 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.600 to explain himself afterwards. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.599 I think it's from some kind of a Hollywood movie. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.840 No remember it, say YouTube where that man is like 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.440 making meats. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.440 Oh yeah, I. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.800 Don't know what his purpose in life is, but but 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.800 I know he's an officionado of his own meats. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.640 Love it, love it, Love it. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.640 Jordan, you came to us with a conspiracy that I 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.680 will say. It's it's it's a heavy one. We're getting 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.520 into some heavy ship, I think with this one. But 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.719 I'm excited to go there with you. You said, my 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:45.000 mama told me Black people don't get depressed. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.000 Talk about it. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:57.320 Tell us more. Yeah, you introduced it. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.800 Oh yeah, you know, we. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.320 Be jolly, we be happy, I guess, or we be grumpy, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.280 and but we don't be depressed. So you know, so 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.360 I feel like, you know, that's definitely like the church. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:19.040 That's definitely rap, even though rap is even though like 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.720 niggas would sound depressed that they deny it, or there's 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.480 like a memo or I'm angry but I'm not sad, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.280 And people get confused to like even what depression is 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.400 because it's deeper than rap, It's deeper than sadness. Depression 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:40.280 by definition is internalized anger. You know that you basically 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.160 cannot don't feel like you can express. It doesn't have 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.680 an outlet, so then it kind of goes into the interior, 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:52.360 you know what I mean. And it's chronic. It's a disease, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.840 you know, sola you're feeling. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.280 Yeah, And so to be clear when you when you 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.640 say black people don't get depressed, this is something you 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.520 believe or this is something you are like, No, this 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.320 is a conspiracy theory. I you know, I hear and 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.080 disagree with it is. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.080 A conspiracy theory, I hear. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.840 I think more black people are believing in it less, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.880 but overall it's the one that is pretty prevalent. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:29.160 Yeah, yeah, oh, one hundred percent. I'm always initially on 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:34.079 the side of black black exclusion from ailments, like in general, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.719 Like there was like three weeks where I thought we 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:41.880 weren't gonna get COVID like in the beginning, and I 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:42.440 do that. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.199 With like mm hmm yeah when they were saying it, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.920 I thought that's silly. But then there was that period 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.040 where like we for real weren't getting it, or at 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.000 least statistically it wasn't showing up. And I believed in 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.280 that in a way that I probably shouldn't have. I 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.800 was like, well, any kind of maybe this is maybe 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.160 this is just white people like getting justice against the 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:06.800 type shit. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.959 You always hope that Mother Nature is gonna strike back 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.840 against white people, I think, is what you're saying. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.880 Yeah, The Happening is a terrible film, but but I kind. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.480 Of there's gonna be a kind of flood that. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:22.480 I mean, you hope that. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.000 But then there's also still plenty of black people that 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.800 like black people also don't like It's just like, okay, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.120 black people don't get COVID the cool for us, but 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.240 like even justice smallt like even don Lemon, like I 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.800 don't really like them, you know what I mean. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.640 Yeah, you know what I'm saying, You ain't rooting for 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.559 all black people to not get COVID. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.800 I'm not saying those are particularly the ones that I'm 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.520 just saying black people in general, the ones that people 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.000 don't like as much. They're like, if they asked that, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.800 they probably make some exceptions, you know. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.600 Damn Yeah, I think that's fair. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.480 A roof for everybody. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:07.079 Black, No you're not. We be rooting for each other 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.280 and then not rooting for each other. It's a complicated 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.319 dance over here, but but we're doing it. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.439 Everybody black not to get coked. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:18.200 I'll think that. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:23.120 I'll think so with with you acknowledging or feeling that 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.800 this is certainly something that like you hear all the time, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.160 how do you feel like black people are meant to 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.720 battle against this? How do we how do we face 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.200 off against this misconception that we don't get depression because 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.560 it is very cool to say, ah, nigga, I don't 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.760 get depressed. I'm black like that, you know what I mean? 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.760 That objectively is a cool lie. How do you get 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.439 people to get to buy into their reality. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.559 I think black people just transmute it in their deniability, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.280 you know, plausible deniability. The more I think, you know, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.800 you're trying to run from ships like the salon so. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:05.719 To smoking it away, sexy it away, I think black people. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:12.839 Just away, don't rush through this, give us what you have. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.080 I think we just transmuted into cooler ship. I think 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.679 I think the more that ship was just like. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.560 You know, you know why you stopped where you stopped 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.040 because it was about to hit another high note that 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.559 you couldn't handle. And I love that about you. Anyway, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:34.880 I understand. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.760 Nah's transmutation. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.600 Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of transmutation. I think Black 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.319 people when they denied the depressed or you know, given 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:56.600 to feeling sad for Fielm, feeling sad, that just make cooler. 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:56.880 Ship. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:02.120 We just like make music, you know what I mean, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.400 We just either we transmute it. And I don't even 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.960 think transmitting is like denial. But I do think when 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.240 Black people are working through depression, they transmitted and make 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.679 real cool shit, like you know right. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.000 I think it can be a highly productive. I know 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.720 for me personally, once I learned about mental health in 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.280 a real way and kind of started having the tools 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.840 to assess how I'm feeling and stuff like that, that 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.240 made everything harder. Like it was cooler when I could 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.480 just like, nah, man, I just gonna smoke some weed, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.160 watch this game, and I'd be all right, you know 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.720 what I mean. But then that to have to be like, damn, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.040 I'm like depressed, I gotta figure this out. That's like 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.959 that throws, that's that's that's a much harder work to do. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.880 Yeah, Frederick Douglas said, the worst thing his slave met, 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.360 one of his slave masters ever did to him was 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.760 teach him to read, because then he had the words 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:59.080 to understand his like captivity. It's like, yeah, it's that 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.640 where it's like, now I know that these are symptoms 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.839 of a bad thing, and I need to figure out 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.400 how to resolve them, whereas before it's just like it's 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.839 a down dayglass. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.800 He's taking Frederick Douglas tricky dick. This niggas a tricky dick. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.920 Because then he learned also beat that nigga's ass, bro, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.760 but he also learned how to read that left his 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.959 wife or a white woman. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.000 So this nigga is tricky. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.280 I don't trust this nigga. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:35.040 He read about nicer white women and he was like, oh, 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:40.960 I don't like this. Can how about that I. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.120 Just read. I just read I just read a great expectations. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:47.760 You know what these women are doing. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:55.080 He's like, dog, they're giving out money. They're literally giving 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.600 out money, this lady, and I gotta work hard forever. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.000 I'm a boycot. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.120 I'm not saying it's right. I'm not defending Frederick Douglass 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.760 in this situation. But I see where his logic went, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:08.480 you know what I mean. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.800 I think that's the first step down a slippery slope. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:16.480 My man Boycott Langston's weekend at Doctor Grins. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.120 Freda was off his rocker. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:32.080 I love my white wife. Let me be clear. There 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.280 was a period for maybe y'all remember this, where that 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.720 there was a video TikTok video circulating of all the 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.360 men events here and in our supposed white wives that 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.600 like somebody had assembled a bunch of pictures, and truly, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.640 only one person in the lineup even had a white wife. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.360 The rest of them were all just like light skinned 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.840 or Latina's or just you know, a weird lighting in 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.840 the room. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:14:59.520 Weird light. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.840 No, truly, it was like some of them are like 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.920 pretty like fair or darker skinned people, and they're like, yeah, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.360 that's a white lady. But point being, I love my 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.680 white wife, you know. And I was in that video 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.920 and they called my wife my wife white, and it 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.360 still bugs me a little bit. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:26.520 I could tell what was the music on behind the video. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:37.040 Something meaning you know, it was something truly like gut 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:43.920 wrenching and evil, something that that that cuts me to 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:44.440 my core. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.160 But I don't even remember the song. It just triggers 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.080 me when I hear it. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:49.880 Yeah, you don't have to say you remember it. I 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:50.520 wouldn't either. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.920 Look at this, Look at this nigga hanging out with 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:59.400 the manager exactly called the manager. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.400 It's very interesting because I think a lot of it's 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.720 familial in the sense that, like I saw it was 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.040 crazy because my mom's not like big on black people 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.960 having mental issues health issues, and my mother was a 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.760 social worker for years, Like we had the DSM in 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.160 our house, and my mom's still not on some like 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.840 go I think, and I depressed it, Like I wonder 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.360 what it is that builds up that resistance specifically to 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:28.000 like these mental problems, Like where does that come from? 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.200 Like where your families like that? We're both your families 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:30.480 like that. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.240 Yeah, I would say my mom certainly is not. She 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.720 I don't think she was like at all ignorant on 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:42.840 the subject. But she wasn't promoting any like reflection beyond 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:47.400 just like act different or or you know, look at 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.000 the world differently. Like I think my sisters, if we 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:55.920 were being honest, probably were suffering through versions of like depression. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.520 And I don't think anybody was at all had the 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.120 instinct to be like, we should go seek help inside 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:03.640 of this. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.760 Right, Yeah, how big is your family? 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:14.480 Mine is? I'm I'm the oldest of five God damn yeah. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.600 And but my shit's real separated because both my parents 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.119 have been married a fuck ton of times, so like 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.119 none of us have had like a consistent like only 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.840 two of my sisters have the same set of parents, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.000 and then the rest is like a mixing and matching situation, right, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.639 Hell yeah, I just. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:38.919 Wanted to and at least in the black side of 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.560 your family, is there, like, is there any history of 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:46.320 like mental health, Like, is anyone in therapy or anything 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:46.760 like that? 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:52.280 No? No, No, My my grandmother literally stabbed my grandfather 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.800 in the back with a knife and they just kept 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.040 on like keeping you know what I mean, Like she 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.280 pretended to need a hug and then stabbed him in 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.440 the back like an assassin. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:09.359 Assassin. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.760 Yeah, you know them hug assassins that be going around 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:15.520 doing stuff. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.160 Are you Are you in therapy? Linson? 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.280 No, I've only gone to therapy once as it was 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.719 more a family therapy thing when I had to go 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.520 as a kid, and I've never gone back as an 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.160 adult or sought help in any form or way. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.560 Because I'll be in there. Man, it's not great, but 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.399 I'm in there. I think I'm the first person in 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.320 my family to regularly go to therapy easily. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.160 Wow, Jordan, you go to therapy. 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.200 I actually got David into therapy. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.159 Yeah, Jordan put me on speak Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.680 And what a process it's been. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.800 I probably need it. I let me be clear, I don't. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.600 I'm not bragging as. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.800 Much as I all Right, you got a perfect family, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:11.320 got nice white wife, all right. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.280 All right, shout shout out Freddy Dougs. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.880 Like white wife, perfect family, we get it. All right, 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:25.000 You're perfect, all right, shout. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.440 Out my man, dirty money, Freddy. 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.120 Wait, this is this is interesting to me. What would 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.640 it take, because like we're coming from this, what would 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.600 it take to get you into therapy? 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:41.800 Just out of curiosity, I think that that what would 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.800 probably get me into therapy is needing it more in 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.080 my marriage than needing it personally. 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:52.159 I think that there is probably a level of immediate 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:58.080 necessity that hasn't yet happened that would make me feel like, oh, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.600 this is something I gotta resolve right now, where I'm 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.320 gonna make shit weird for me or others or whatever 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.400 it is. And that's probably not the right approach for therapy, 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.399 but that is the one that my brain sort of 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.320 lives in. And if my marriage started to feel like, 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.320 oh shit, if we don't do something, this ain't gonna work, 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.119 then I'd probably take it to that route. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.040 But you don't think personally, because let's crack it open, 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.200 and this is like a men's group anyways. Now, why, yeah, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.720 do you feel like you never were led towards that 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.480 point because of an aversion to therapy primarily because of 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.800 being black? Like do you feel like, do you feel 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.960 like the reason you never ended up there or you 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:40.600 think you just got like saved by your white life. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.479 I think I've lived with the aversion. I don't know 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.600 that it would be fair to point it only or 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:52.080 exclusively on my black family, right, Like, at its core, 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.479 I have both a black family that sort of is, 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.920 you know, just traditionally black in that sense, but then 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:04.040 there's also like a repressed Jewish side of people that 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.359 are avoiding sort of like that type of reflection or 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.800 openness or whatever it is. That also wasn't telling me like, hey, 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.159 you should go to therapy when we went, it was 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.680 because things have become explosive enough in the house where 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.920 it was like, Okay, emergency, motherfucker, let's fix this. 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:24.520 Interesting. 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.600 Yeah, so I'm gonna let I'm gonna wait till you 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.520 know the fucking pipes are leaking through my walls. 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.320 And wait till you what did you step? 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.119 I hear this stuff works. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.720 Striketh is gonna go on long enough, we're gonna see 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.879 people we never thought would start smoking crack. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.720 It starts to smoke crack. So I think once. 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:52.080 Lengthy started smoking crack, once Lengths to start smoking crack, 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.440 I think he'll be in therapy. And actually, I think 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.720 this is perfect because I'm starting to sell crack. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:07.160 So you see, well, first of all, if our peers 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.320 start doing crack, that's gonna give me and my wife 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.640 so much more to talk about. And I don't know 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:13.960 if that's gonna slow me down much. 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:15.720 But if you're right, if I. 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.720 Do eventually start smoking crack, I will I promise you 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.440 both that I will go to therapy. 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:23.359 I will. 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.439 I will do crack and therapy, hopefully not simultaneously, but 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:28.879 more than likely they will be. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:33.080 You can do crack therapy. Sometimes crack can be therapy, you. 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.960 Know, don't you got a great sales pitch. 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.159 Yo, I don't listen. I don't this is this is 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:46.480 like the street level Pfizer right now, it's not it's not. 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:51.239 Come on, bro, come on, you know what they do 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.840 over there, right, Come. 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:55.439 On, baby, you don't need those teeth. 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.080 Come on, man, Pfizer is a trust stick brand. You 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:08.440 gotta think. All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.960 be back with more Jordan Temple and more. My mama 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:11.480 told me. 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:21.199 I. 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.760 Feel good, and you seem good and make love good. 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:32.399 Welcome, welcome back to my mama told me. We are 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.960 discussing whether or not black people get I think we've 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.800 all decided black people get depression. I think we're discovered. 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.639 We're discussing the stigmatism against it in the black community. 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:47.880 With Jordan Temple, Liston has deflected all attempts to get 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.840 him into therapy and said that the only way it's 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.280 happened is if he smokes some crack, which is a step. 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.280 I think Jordan said that was the only way it's happening, 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.399 and I didn't fight it. I think that it's one 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.360 of the ways that will get me into therapy. It's 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:11.200 smoking crack. All right, Jordan, I did some research on 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.119 your conspiracy theory that we would love to unpack with you. Obviously, 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.840 if any of this feels false to you, you should 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.200