Speaker 1: Yeah, it would do a lot for you because they're
Speaker 1: looking they're looking strong.
Speaker 2: You don't come back on here disrespecting my team again.
Speaker 2: I feel like every week there's some kind of caveat
Speaker 2: to why can't we just be great?
Speaker 1: Nah, there's no caveat, But they just look fucking They
Speaker 1: look strong. But you guys look strong too. You know
Speaker 1: it'll be a hell of a series.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you're not seeing it with your eyes.
Speaker 3: Laker's got a nigga name Lannie. I think it's over
Speaker 3: for the Nuggets, but I don't know, bro Lani coming
Speaker 3: off the bench and you know that nigga.
Speaker 1: Man, y'all don't fucked up, you know, Lannie out the cave.
Speaker 3: Nigga come off the bench like take a black and
Speaker 3: mile from behind my ear, like, yo, hold this.
Speaker 1: They pulled out a lot of Loni yugi O card
Speaker 1: and just slam that ship.
Speaker 2: Quality are racists.
Speaker 1: The laws, the money turn stuff.
Speaker 2: I can't tell me hey, hey, no, no, come back
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not doing that. I'm not saying that President.
Speaker 2: I don't like you know.
Speaker 1: Look, we are documentarians, my friend. It's not our responsibility
Speaker 1: to choose right and wrong. We simply are witnesses to
Speaker 1: what's happening out in this world. And then you you
Speaker 1: you have no right, sir, you have no right giving
Speaker 1: some of the monsters you've referenced as we've.
Speaker 2: Tried to clean you keep doing all that. I don't no,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, continued super Welcome to a phenomenal episode of
Speaker 2: My Mama Told Me the podcast when we dive deep
Speaker 2: into the pockets of black conspiracies.
Speaker 1: And we finally work to prove that if the writers
Speaker 1: are in fact going to get justice in this strike,
Speaker 1: they are going to need to employ the black Israelites.
Speaker 1: They're going to have to get them same people who
Speaker 1: stood out for Kyrie and fixed his job somehow in
Speaker 1: line with this, They're gonna need those bigots by their
Speaker 1: side if they're ever gonna get justice.
Speaker 2: I'm like stink Kerman and I'm your man from a
Speaker 2: congo as referenced by those goddamn Hebrew Israelites. They refuse
Speaker 2: to acknowledge my racial makeup and I.
Speaker 1: Don't love it, are going to get you those writing
Speaker 1: jobs back. You gotta make things.
Speaker 4: What's the logic behind this? What's the logic behind listen?
Speaker 1: Brother makes to me, I just.
Speaker 3: Wanted to make sure logic matches up, because, as far
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, every black issue light is a member
Speaker 3: of Job Corps and cannot read so.
Speaker 1: Writing, Well, here's what their job for them.
Speaker 2: YO, shout out to job Corps employing every dude who
Speaker 2: was kind of good at basketball you needed somewhere to
Speaker 2: go when the ball State scholarship went through, was there.
Speaker 1: For him when that d three walk on experience didn't
Speaker 1: turn into something.
Speaker 3: When the job Corps, when the community college gym workouts
Speaker 3: didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Turns out the coach didn't want me that bad.
Speaker 2: That's what I said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that what's missing in the strike, and
Speaker 1: I've been out there a few times, marching and whatnot,
Speaker 1: But I believe that what's failing is a sick passion
Speaker 1: that can only be found by the Hebrew Israelites. They're
Speaker 1: They're the type of people that that will knock a
Speaker 1: nigga out for disagreeing with them on on basic things.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the kind of bite we need
Speaker 1: in this fight.
Speaker 2: You get that to get to go against the streamers,
Speaker 2: I think definitely you need a hit her I get.
Speaker 2: I think that's good.
Speaker 1: They'll punch a car window and then it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: now we got to negotiate. Now we gotta take this
Speaker 1: to the table.
Speaker 4: Story structure, that's what you need. See enough both.
Speaker 1: I love that you're trying to get them in the room.
Speaker 1: I just thought we were employing them as like a mob.
Speaker 1: But you're like, naw, if they're gonna march, then they
Speaker 1: got it right on on the next big program.
Speaker 4: That's yeah.
Speaker 3: They have to be eligible for streams too, Black israel Life,
Speaker 3: and he's streaming residuals.
Speaker 4: Too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's fair. We are almost five minutes into the podcast
Speaker 1: and we haven't introduced our guests, despite this turning into
Speaker 1: something far far more silly than I think we've ever
Speaker 1: taken it. So good for us Fellas. He's he's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He've already heard his voice, You've already heard his opinions
Speaker 1: on the writers and the Black Israelites. He is a
Speaker 1: he's a hilarious comedian. He's been a writer for Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He's been a writer for Marvelous Missus masl he is
Speaker 1: currently a writer for Abbod Elementary. He's a dear friend.
Speaker 1: Give it up for Jordan Temple why fuck? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 2: Ah, it's just a little bit of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, man press buttons. You don't you don't have
Speaker 1: to explain himself afterwards.
Speaker 2: I think it's from some kind of a Hollywood movie.
Speaker 1: No remember it, say YouTube where that man is like
Speaker 1: making meats.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what his purpose in life is, but but
Speaker 1: I know he's an officionado of his own meats.
Speaker 2: Love it, love it, Love it.
Speaker 1: Jordan, you came to us with a conspiracy that I
Speaker 1: will say. It's it's it's a heavy one. We're getting
Speaker 1: into some heavy ship, I think with this one. But
Speaker 1: I'm excited to go there with you. You said, my
Speaker 1: mama told me Black people don't get depressed.
Speaker 4: Talk about it.
Speaker 1: Tell us more. Yeah, you introduced it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, we.
Speaker 3: Be jolly, we be happy, I guess, or we be grumpy,
Speaker 3: and but we don't be depressed. So you know, so
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, that's definitely like the church.
Speaker 3: That's definitely rap, even though rap is even though like
Speaker 3: niggas would sound depressed that they deny it, or there's
Speaker 3: like a memo or I'm angry but I'm not sad,
Speaker 3: And people get confused to like even what depression is
Speaker 3: because it's deeper than rap, It's deeper than sadness. Depression
Speaker 3: by definition is internalized anger. You know that you basically
Speaker 3: cannot don't feel like you can express. It doesn't have
Speaker 3: an outlet, so then it kind of goes into the interior,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it's chronic. It's a disease,
Speaker 3: you know, sola you're feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so to be clear when you when you
Speaker 1: say black people don't get depressed, this is something you
Speaker 1: believe or this is something you are like, No, this
Speaker 1: is a conspiracy theory. I you know, I hear and
Speaker 1: disagree with it is.
Speaker 4: A conspiracy theory, I hear.
Speaker 3: I think more black people are believing in it less,
Speaker 3: but overall it's the one that is pretty prevalent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, one hundred percent. I'm always initially on
Speaker 2: the side of black black exclusion from ailments, like in general,
Speaker 2: Like there was like three weeks where I thought we
Speaker 2: weren't gonna get COVID like in the beginning, and I
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: With like mm hmm yeah when they were saying it,
Speaker 1: I thought that's silly. But then there was that period
Speaker 1: where like we for real weren't getting it, or at
Speaker 1: least statistically it wasn't showing up. And I believed in
Speaker 1: that in a way that I probably shouldn't have. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, any kind of maybe this is maybe
Speaker 1: this is just white people like getting justice against the
Speaker 1: type shit.
Speaker 2: You always hope that Mother Nature is gonna strike back
Speaker 2: against white people, I think, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, The Happening is a terrible film, but but I kind.
Speaker 2: Of there's gonna be a kind of flood that.
Speaker 4: I mean, you hope that.
Speaker 3: But then there's also still plenty of black people that
Speaker 3: like black people also don't like It's just like, okay,
Speaker 3: black people don't get COVID the cool for us, but
Speaker 3: like even justice smallt like even don Lemon, like I
Speaker 3: don't really like them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, You ain't rooting for
Speaker 1: all black people to not get COVID.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying those are particularly the ones that I'm
Speaker 3: just saying black people in general, the ones that people
Speaker 3: don't like as much. They're like, if they asked that,
Speaker 3: they probably make some exceptions, you know.
Speaker 2: Damn Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4: A roof for everybody.
Speaker 1: Black, No you're not. We be rooting for each other
Speaker 1: and then not rooting for each other. It's a complicated
Speaker 1: dance over here, but but we're doing it.
Speaker 4: Everybody black not to get coked.
Speaker 2: I'll think that.
Speaker 1: I'll think so with with you acknowledging or feeling that
Speaker 1: this is certainly something that like you hear all the time,
Speaker 1: how do you feel like black people are meant to
Speaker 1: battle against this? How do we how do we face
Speaker 1: off against this misconception that we don't get depression because
Speaker 1: it is very cool to say, ah, nigga, I don't
Speaker 1: get depressed. I'm black like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That objectively is a cool lie. How do you get
Speaker 1: people to get to buy into their reality.
Speaker 3: I think black people just transmute it in their deniability,
Speaker 3: you know, plausible deniability. The more I think, you know,
Speaker 3: you're trying to run from ships like the salon so.
Speaker 4: To smoking it away, sexy it away, I think black people.
Speaker 1: Just away, don't rush through this, give us what you have.
Speaker 3: I think we just transmuted into cooler ship. I think
Speaker 3: I think the more that ship was just like.
Speaker 1: You know, you know why you stopped where you stopped
Speaker 1: because it was about to hit another high note that
Speaker 1: you couldn't handle. And I love that about you. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 4: Nah's transmutation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of transmutation. I think Black
Speaker 3: people when they denied the depressed or you know, given
Speaker 3: to feeling sad for Fielm, feeling sad, that just make cooler.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 3: We just like make music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: We just either we transmute it. And I don't even
Speaker 3: think transmitting is like denial. But I do think when
Speaker 3: Black people are working through depression, they transmitted and make
Speaker 3: real cool shit, like you know right.
Speaker 2: I think it can be a highly productive. I know
Speaker 2: for me personally, once I learned about mental health in
Speaker 2: a real way and kind of started having the tools
Speaker 2: to assess how I'm feeling and stuff like that, that
Speaker 2: made everything harder. Like it was cooler when I could
Speaker 2: just like, nah, man, I just gonna smoke some weed,
Speaker 2: watch this game, and I'd be all right, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But then that to have to be like, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm like depressed, I gotta figure this out. That's like
Speaker 2: that throws, that's that's that's a much harder work to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Frederick Douglas said, the worst thing his slave met,
Speaker 1: one of his slave masters ever did to him was
Speaker 1: teach him to read, because then he had the words
Speaker 1: to understand his like captivity. It's like, yeah, it's that
Speaker 1: where it's like, now I know that these are symptoms
Speaker 1: of a bad thing, and I need to figure out
Speaker 1: how to resolve them, whereas before it's just like it's
Speaker 1: a down dayglass.
Speaker 4: He's taking Frederick Douglas tricky dick. This niggas a tricky dick.
Speaker 2: Because then he learned also beat that nigga's ass, bro,
Speaker 2: but he also learned how to read that left his
Speaker 2: wife or a white woman.
Speaker 4: So this nigga is tricky. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't trust this nigga. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He read about nicer white women and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like this. Can how about that I.
Speaker 2: Just read. I just read I just read a great expectations.
Speaker 2: You know what these women are doing.
Speaker 1: He's like, dog, they're giving out money. They're literally giving
Speaker 1: out money, this lady, and I gotta work hard forever.
Speaker 4: I'm a boycot.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right. I'm not defending Frederick Douglass
Speaker 1: in this situation. But I see where his logic went,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I think that's the first step down a slippery slope.
Speaker 3: My man Boycott Langston's weekend at Doctor Grins.
Speaker 4: Freda was off his rocker.
Speaker 1: I love my white wife. Let me be clear. There
Speaker 1: was a period for maybe y'all remember this, where that
Speaker 1: there was a video TikTok video circulating of all the
Speaker 1: men events here and in our supposed white wives that
Speaker 1: like somebody had assembled a bunch of pictures, and truly,
Speaker 1: only one person in the lineup even had a white wife.
Speaker 1: The rest of them were all just like light skinned
Speaker 1: or Latina's or just you know, a weird lighting in
Speaker 1: the room.
Speaker 2: Weird light.
Speaker 1: No, truly, it was like some of them are like
Speaker 1: pretty like fair or darker skinned people, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a white lady. But point being, I love my
Speaker 1: white wife, you know. And I was in that video
Speaker 1: and they called my wife my wife white, and it
Speaker 1: still bugs me a little bit.
Speaker 2: I could tell what was the music on behind the video.
Speaker 5: Something meaning you know, it was something truly like gut
Speaker 5: wrenching and evil, something that that that cuts me to
Speaker 5: my core.
Speaker 1: But I don't even remember the song. It just triggers
Speaker 1: me when I hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to say you remember it. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't either.
Speaker 4: Look at this, Look at this nigga hanging out with
Speaker 4: the manager exactly called the manager.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting because I think a lot of it's
Speaker 2: familial in the sense that, like I saw it was
Speaker 2: crazy because my mom's not like big on black people
Speaker 2: having mental issues health issues, and my mother was a
Speaker 2: social worker for years, Like we had the DSM in
Speaker 2: our house, and my mom's still not on some like
Speaker 2: go I think, and I depressed it, Like I wonder
Speaker 2: what it is that builds up that resistance specifically to
Speaker 2: like these mental problems, Like where does that come from?
Speaker 2: Like where your families like that? We're both your families
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say my mom certainly is not. She
Speaker 1: I don't think she was like at all ignorant on
Speaker 1: the subject. But she wasn't promoting any like reflection beyond
Speaker 1: just like act different or or you know, look at
Speaker 1: the world differently. Like I think my sisters, if we
Speaker 1: were being honest, probably were suffering through versions of like depression.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody was at all had the
Speaker 1: instinct to be like, we should go seek help inside
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, how big is your family?
Speaker 1: Mine is? I'm I'm the oldest of five God damn yeah.
Speaker 1: And but my shit's real separated because both my parents
Speaker 1: have been married a fuck ton of times, so like
Speaker 1: none of us have had like a consistent like only
Speaker 1: two of my sisters have the same set of parents,
Speaker 1: and then the rest is like a mixing and matching situation, right,
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I just.
Speaker 2: Wanted to and at least in the black side of
Speaker 2: your family, is there, like, is there any history of
Speaker 2: like mental health, Like, is anyone in therapy or anything
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: No? No, No, My my grandmother literally stabbed my grandfather
Speaker 1: in the back with a knife and they just kept
Speaker 1: on like keeping you know what I mean, Like she
Speaker 1: pretended to need a hug and then stabbed him in
Speaker 1: the back like an assassin.
Speaker 4: Assassin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know them hug assassins that be going around
Speaker 1: doing stuff.
Speaker 2: Are you Are you in therapy? Linson?
Speaker 1: No, I've only gone to therapy once as it was
Speaker 1: more a family therapy thing when I had to go
Speaker 1: as a kid, and I've never gone back as an
Speaker 1: adult or sought help in any form or way.
Speaker 2: Because I'll be in there. Man, it's not great, but
Speaker 2: I'm in there. I think I'm the first person in
Speaker 2: my family to regularly go to therapy easily.
Speaker 1: Wow, Jordan, you go to therapy.
Speaker 4: I actually got David into therapy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan put me on speak Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And what a process it's been.
Speaker 1: I probably need it. I let me be clear, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not bragging as.
Speaker 3: Much as I all Right, you got a perfect family,
Speaker 3: got nice white wife, all right.
Speaker 1: All right, shout shout out Freddy Dougs.
Speaker 3: Like white wife, perfect family, we get it. All right,
Speaker 3: You're perfect, all right, shout.
Speaker 1: Out my man, dirty money, Freddy.
Speaker 2: Wait, this is this is interesting to me. What would
Speaker 2: it take, because like we're coming from this, what would
Speaker 2: it take to get you into therapy?
Speaker 6: Just out of curiosity, I think that that what would
Speaker 6: probably get me into therapy is needing it more in
Speaker 6: my marriage than needing it personally.
Speaker 1: I think that there is probably a level of immediate
Speaker 1: necessity that hasn't yet happened that would make me feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is something I gotta resolve right now, where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make shit weird for me or others or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. And that's probably not the right approach for therapy,
Speaker 1: but that is the one that my brain sort of
Speaker 1: lives in. And if my marriage started to feel like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, if we don't do something, this ain't gonna work,
Speaker 1: then I'd probably take it to that route.
Speaker 2: But you don't think personally, because let's crack it open,
Speaker 2: and this is like a men's group anyways. Now, why, yeah,
Speaker 2: do you feel like you never were led towards that
Speaker 2: point because of an aversion to therapy primarily because of
Speaker 2: being black? Like do you feel like, do you feel
Speaker 2: like the reason you never ended up there or you
Speaker 2: think you just got like saved by your white life.
Speaker 1: I think I've lived with the aversion. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it would be fair to point it only or
Speaker 1: exclusively on my black family, right, Like, at its core,
Speaker 1: I have both a black family that sort of is,
Speaker 1: you know, just traditionally black in that sense, but then
Speaker 1: there's also like a repressed Jewish side of people that
Speaker 1: are avoiding sort of like that type of reflection or
Speaker 1: openness or whatever it is. That also wasn't telling me like, hey,
Speaker 1: you should go to therapy when we went, it was
Speaker 1: because things have become explosive enough in the house where
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, emergency, motherfucker, let's fix this.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna let I'm gonna wait till you
Speaker 1: know the fucking pipes are leaking through my walls.
Speaker 2: And wait till you what did you step?
Speaker 1: I hear this stuff works.
Speaker 3: Striketh is gonna go on long enough, we're gonna see
Speaker 3: people we never thought would start smoking crack.
Speaker 4: It starts to smoke crack. So I think once.
Speaker 7: Lengthy started smoking crack, once Lengths to start smoking crack,
Speaker 7: I think he'll be in therapy. And actually, I think
Speaker 7: this is perfect because I'm starting to sell crack.
Speaker 1: So you see, well, first of all, if our peers
Speaker 1: start doing crack, that's gonna give me and my wife
Speaker 1: so much more to talk about. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's gonna slow me down much.
Speaker 2: But if you're right, if I.
Speaker 1: Do eventually start smoking crack, I will I promise you
Speaker 1: both that I will go to therapy.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: I will do crack and therapy, hopefully not simultaneously, but
Speaker 1: more than likely they will be.
Speaker 4: You can do crack therapy. Sometimes crack can be therapy, you.
Speaker 1: Know, don't you got a great sales pitch.
Speaker 2: Yo, I don't listen. I don't this is this is
Speaker 2: like the street level Pfizer right now, it's not it's not.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, come on, you know what they do
Speaker 1: over there, right, Come.
Speaker 4: On, baby, you don't need those teeth.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Pfizer is a trust stick brand. You
Speaker 1: gotta think. All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll
Speaker 1: be back with more Jordan Temple and more. My mama
Speaker 1: told me.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 1: Feel good, and you seem good and make love good.
Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome back to my mama told me. We are
Speaker 2: discussing whether or not black people get I think we've
Speaker 2: all decided black people get depression. I think we're discovered.
Speaker 2: We're discussing the stigmatism against it in the black community.
Speaker 2: With Jordan Temple, Liston has deflected all attempts to get
Speaker 2: him into therapy and said that the only way it's
Speaker 2: happened is if he smokes some crack, which is a step.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan said that was the only way it's happening,
Speaker 1: and I didn't fight it. I think that it's one
Speaker 1: of the ways that will get me into therapy. It's
Speaker 1: smoking crack. All right, Jordan, I did some research on
Speaker 1: your conspiracy theory that we would love to unpack with you. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if any of this feels false to you, you should
Speaker 1: say so, because I don't know much. But the National
Speaker 1: Study of American Life shows that while more white people
Speaker 1: are documented as having depression, seventeen point nine percent versus
Speaker 1: ten point four percent in American black people, and then
Speaker 1: twelve point nine in Caribbean black people. So Caribbean black
Speaker 1: people went in by almost three percent against black people
Speaker 1: in America for depression. They didn't mention African Sorry about that, David,
Speaker 1: you have to bring that up.
Speaker 4: So Caribbean black people, it says, are reported being more depressed,
Speaker 4: more depressed. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Shout out Haiti.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Like culturally Haitian like at all, but it's still I
Speaker 3: guess my father, my father from Haiti, and you know,
Speaker 3: I grew up around my grand to see my grandmother,
Speaker 3: my paternal grandmother.
Speaker 4: She didn't speak any English. So I was like, I
Speaker 4: guess that's pretty Haitian.
Speaker 3: I don't fucking know, like, so I guess I'm a
Speaker 3: little bit I don't know a little yah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, Uh, I think the numbers didn't.
Speaker 1: It surprised me, But then it didn't surprise me. I
Speaker 1: think with that weird difference between us. But uh, it
Speaker 1: also says that while we get have more of it
Speaker 1: the or rather, while white people there are more of
Speaker 1: them that have it, our depression in black people across
Speaker 1: the board is statistically longer in span. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So like, yeah, they get depressed, but
Speaker 1: their depression often is not persisting throughout their entire life,
Speaker 1: whereas for black people it often is, or at least
Speaker 1: for longer periods of our lives.
Speaker 4: That makes something that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that sounds reasonable. We died first, I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said the persistence for white people is around
Speaker 1: fifty six point five percent, and then oh no, the
Speaker 1: persistence for black people rather is fifty six point five percent,
Speaker 1: whereas for white people it's thirty eight point six damn.
Speaker 1: So we're way longer for persisting and throughout your whole
Speaker 1: life kind of thing.
Speaker 4: That's one thing. Black people are persistent.
Speaker 1: Give this man a beat, if ever there was a
Speaker 1: time to give the man a beat, I mean, get
Speaker 1: him freestyle for a second.
Speaker 3: I said I said, you know, there's the thing freestyle therapy.
Speaker 3: Deep deep in the anals of quarantine. A nigga was
Speaker 3: waking up every morning and freestyle wrapping for fifteen.
Speaker 1: Minutes damn straight like you no breaks in.
Speaker 4: There, no breaks, not I didn't drink water. Huh.
Speaker 2: No beats not like no beats just like fuck.
Speaker 4: No beats beats beat.
Speaker 1: Wait, So, so do you feel like, all right now
Speaker 1: that you you've been a freestyle for Officionado, let's say,
Speaker 1: because we don't know what kind of quality work you're
Speaker 1: putting out there, but fifteen minutes straight, do you feel
Speaker 1: ready for like the five Fingers of death? Shit on sway?
Speaker 1: Like the like, are you could?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: Could you live by your freestyl and die by your freestyling?
Speaker 1: Or is it nod?
Speaker 3: You know what would make the five It's easy for
Speaker 3: me to do the five Fingers of death. You know
Speaker 3: why because I got six fingers. Do you understand when
Speaker 3: I freestyle?
Speaker 2: No? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. Ready scared me.
Speaker 2: It was like some cool New York talk.
Speaker 1: I didn't pictured it in my head. I was like,
Speaker 1: I still don't know what that means, but yeah, go
Speaker 1: ahead when you said it.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, baby, come on, you and Jordie's world.
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna make sense.
Speaker 2: Baby. You know what I'm saying. Well, okay, I think
Speaker 2: we got I gotta beat you.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, I need to give my man, give
Speaker 1: my man his his taste.
Speaker 4: I need these freestyles like water baby.
Speaker 1: Come on, baby, there it is.
Speaker 4: Yo. Turn my headphones up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, off the top of the dome.
Speaker 4: We talked about depression and I'm home.
Speaker 3: Almost forgot about the freestyle to day, but I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was laying down in that thing, and I was
Speaker 3: jerking off and I was rapping. I was jerking off,
Speaker 3: and I said, what time is it almost time for.
Speaker 4: My mama told me.
Speaker 2: The fucking bogs nigga know nothing about that.
Speaker 1: Yep, nah, yep, I mean I feel better six fingers.
Speaker 2: Imagine imagine, imagine thirteen and a half, four minutes of that.
Speaker 1: We know you didn't get enough. My man could have
Speaker 1: kept fucking.
Speaker 2: Jerking off in the first ninety seconds. That's what the
Speaker 2: last six minutes would have done.
Speaker 1: It was gonna get grotesque.
Speaker 4: Blowing my blowing my load in the first twenty seconds.
Speaker 3: Bro, I I was I was like nine years old
Speaker 3: when I first went to therapy.
Speaker 1: Like oh super young, I was forced to go was
Speaker 1: this oh so this was this was someone else in
Speaker 1: your life being like, yo, you need help. My mom
Speaker 1: forced me to go whoa And was your mom in like, uh,
Speaker 1: this is dire type ship or was she just seeing
Speaker 1: something in you and was like, hey, I think this
Speaker 1: would be helpful moving forward kind of thing.
Speaker 3: I guess I had like anger problems. I might have
Speaker 3: been younger than that. I had like real I was
Speaker 3: just like really wiling. Kids would like fuck with me
Speaker 3: and I'd be wiling, and then yeah, I just was.
Speaker 3: My mom was just like I can't let me go
Speaker 3: somewhere for an hour or talks.
Speaker 4: You can't places with blocks or some ship. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't take this, nigga. That's when I started.
Speaker 1: Bopping these kids on the head.
Speaker 4: Yeah it off.
Speaker 3: That's when I started freestyle, and yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: mean kids get depressed too. I think the problem with
Speaker 3: black kids is people they don't think so much about
Speaker 3: like their inner world as much like I think. I
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of people that don't even see
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna say something controversial, but I think people
Speaker 3: quote this a lot, like the most disrespected person in
Speaker 3: the world is the black woman, the Malcolm X quote,
Speaker 3: which is true, but I also feel like at the
Speaker 3: same time, it's also acknowledgement that like black children aren't people,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because it's like they are
Speaker 3: being raised by women and they have like no right,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like children are the most
Speaker 3: vulnerable group on the planet, but Malcolm X will never
Speaker 3: raise his own awareness to speak for the rights of children,
Speaker 3: to think that they're a person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Not saying he's right or wrong.
Speaker 3: But I just think it's interesting because there's a there's
Speaker 3: probably a mother or a father or somebody went home
Speaker 3: and beat that kid, and it's just like is it
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like yeah, no, Like at
Speaker 3: no point have people culturally shifted the the attention on
Speaker 3: each group, Like it's it's always feels like a gender
Speaker 3: was never like the rights of children or not that
Speaker 3: it's never, but like black children are like completely forgot about.
Speaker 1: I wonder if part of that is is that the
Speaker 1: intention at least of political leaders of sort of like
Speaker 1: our you know, our heroes as they were champions. I
Speaker 1: guess there's maybe a better word, But if part of
Speaker 1: what their purpose is is to make the world better
Speaker 1: for the existing children and subsequent when we don't think
Speaker 1: to mention them because they're like, well, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: the adults to fix y'all more than i'm speaking to
Speaker 1: this generation that's still in theory has a chance to
Speaker 1: just live out of harm's way, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I think that's a difficult idea though, because then who
Speaker 2: are you assuming that's doing the work, this generation of
Speaker 2: broken people that you're speaking to us, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And maybe that's the shortscidedness of politics, right It is, like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's old people yelling
Speaker 1: at old people to be different, and motherfuckers don't do that. Whereas, like,
Speaker 1: if politics were truly aimed at the people who things
Speaker 1: were affecting currently, we wouldn't have an eighteen year old voting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I think politics should
Speaker 1: be for children. I think we should be like trying
Speaker 1: to legitimately talk to kids and be like, hey, what
Speaker 1: do you think is fucked up? How do we make
Speaker 1: the world what you're going to avenge grow up to
Speaker 1: live inside of?
Speaker 2: I think that I agree with that. Do you think
Speaker 2: that's a politicians.
Speaker 4: Joe Biden and Kamala need to listen.
Speaker 1: I keep asking Joe Biden to come on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and he keep telling me about Popcorn as they call
Speaker 1: my boy Popcorn, my man pop corn Pop. He had
Speaker 1: a black friend named corn Pop and uh yeah, he
Speaker 1: keeps telling me to call him.
Speaker 2: I I definitely like the idea of talking about the
Speaker 2: idea of a black children as far as like it
Speaker 2: does seem like we learn I don't know you ever
Speaker 2: just talked to white white children and they were aware
Speaker 2: of their personhood a lot like like the the culture
Speaker 2: is different for them as a kid. Like when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, it was very much like nothing you
Speaker 2: think matters. I pay for this house, this is my ship,
Speaker 2: and then you gotta go and figure it out for yourself.
Speaker 2: But there isn't a lot of like care for that
Speaker 2: idea of like young personhood, which probably does lead more
Speaker 2: to depression and things like that, or like just not
Speaker 2: paying attention to it.
Speaker 4: It's more important, it's who you. It shapes who you
Speaker 4: are for life. So that's why I feel like not
Speaker 4: like what he said was wrong, but that it was
Speaker 4: misguided because like you're also speaking to when you speak
Speaker 4: to adults, you forget that you're speaking to someone who
Speaker 4: was once a child, who is an adult, who's dealing
Speaker 4: with things they weren't able to or had to repress
Speaker 4: as children, and now they're holding onto that. And that's
Speaker 4: why I think that is more, if not more, if
Speaker 4: not more important, to address the child in people and
Speaker 4: to address the children that are existing, so that adults
Speaker 4: can deal with the fucking problems they had and be
Speaker 4: able to like get a hold of that that child
Speaker 4: that was lost or hurt so that they don't repeat
Speaker 4: that and then just inflict that same damage on living
Speaker 4: existing children or like I said that, or repeat the
Speaker 4: same kind of or repress the emotions that they had
Speaker 4: from childhood. That's the whole point of therapy.
Speaker 3: Like you are who you are as an adult because
Speaker 3: of these childhood memories that are repressed, because you weren't
Speaker 3: able to have your own agency, because you weren't able
Speaker 3: to express emotion. It is repressed, and you are depressed
Speaker 3: maybe as an adult because of those emotions and that
Speaker 3: anger you weren't able.
Speaker 4: To express as a child.
Speaker 3: You know, That's why not only I think it is important,
Speaker 3: but that's why a lot of black people have a
Speaker 3: hard time accepting that they are depressed as adults because
Speaker 3: as children they were so damaged and forgotten about and
Speaker 3: thrown to the wayside. That's you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Ye Black children are the most discarded people. And you
Speaker 3: see people grow up, you know, these black boys and
Speaker 3: girls who are like dealing with it, and it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, we're talking about circumstance. We're not talking about
Speaker 3: the problems. Maybe we happened each other, like there are
Speaker 3: problems out of the world, different things. But it's also
Speaker 3: like getting in touch with and healing that that child
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 4: He to therapize this whole podcast.
Speaker 1: But hey, no, I mean, you know, we accept all
Speaker 1: all versions of the podcast, even even the ones that
Speaker 1: make us go, you're right, brother, are right now.
Speaker 4: It's whatever.
Speaker 2: It's a writer strike man.
Speaker 4: We all gonna be selling crack.
Speaker 1: Or smoking it or smoking it. But one of the
Speaker 1: things to the larger point of people going untreated or
Speaker 1: certainly not making the efforts to to solve their problems,
Speaker 1: it says I read an article that said that fifty
Speaker 1: seven percent of people with MDD major depression disorder, actually
Speaker 1: get treatment. So only fifty percent, fifty seven percent of
Speaker 1: people suffering through depression, specifically major depression disorder are actually
Speaker 1: going to get the treatment. And then additionally, one of
Speaker 1: the things that they say is the cause of that
Speaker 1: is that eighty five percent of black people, and they're
Speaker 1: not saying this is solely the cause, but eighty five
Speaker 1: percent of black people identify as religious in some form,
Speaker 1: somewhere between somewhat religious to very religious and turning more
Speaker 1: towards church and the traditions of church instead of therapy
Speaker 1: as this other source.
Speaker 2: That's a difficult thing because we don't know what percent
Speaker 2: of people of the church works for, right, Like, let's
Speaker 2: say that's the number. What you say, it's like forty
Speaker 2: three percent.
Speaker 1: Eighty five that identify religions.
Speaker 2: So at that point of that eighty five who identify
Speaker 2: religious versus the percentage of people who have MDD who
Speaker 2: do not end up getting help, what percentage of them
Speaker 2: that turned to the church are healed. Because it does
Speaker 2: work for a lot of people. It's not it's not
Speaker 2: like it's not my ticket, but that God shit, it
Speaker 2: gets some people. You don't know anybody who was like
Speaker 2: a terrorist and then they found God and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: you used to put people in lockers and now you
Speaker 2: just run the youth group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a decent you're a decent main now in
Speaker 1: a way that you weren't supposed to be.
Speaker 2: I'd because I don't think that eighty five percent religious
Speaker 2: thing is necessary. I think it's necessarily all that terrible, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't view that as like a bad thing.
Speaker 1: That's well, I think it is fair to acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: The article also says that, like therapy, church can be
Speaker 1: therapeutic for a lot of people. So they're not just
Speaker 1: disgracing the eighty five percent who identify as religious. They're
Speaker 1: merely saying that that level of religious sort of like
Speaker 1: across the board doesn't exist in other racial groups.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, different different things are therapy too. I
Speaker 3: think that's the thing too. Like culturally we've gotten into
Speaker 3: the one on one or black people or people need
Speaker 3: to go to depression or need to go to therapy
Speaker 3: or whatever. But like different things are therapy. You don't
Speaker 3: have to engage one on one. There's like art therapy,
Speaker 3: there's religiosity's therapy. There's you know, exercises therapy, there's all
Speaker 3: kinds of things that's that that can be therapeutic.
Speaker 1: So I watch anime and I'm I'm healed. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe I've already been going to therapy.
Speaker 4: Intenable word doesn't count.
Speaker 1: Man, they agree to disagree. The autists are exceptional. They're
Speaker 1: Japanese and they are exceptional.
Speaker 3: I was I'm confused by like, I mean, maybe I'm
Speaker 3: just not out there in the church world. But do
Speaker 3: y'all ever meet new church people, like young church people,
Speaker 3: like in their thirties, like in like, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't know a lot of church niggas that are young.
Speaker 2: The people that I know who have converted did it
Speaker 2: younger than thirty. It was like there was probably a
Speaker 2: time from like twenty two to twenty six where I
Speaker 2: know a good number of people who flipped it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. A lot of it's like getting out,
Speaker 2: you know, of either the military or jail, but.
Speaker 1: Like it's truly like every dude I know that like
Speaker 1: went off to college and like wild out for a
Speaker 1: while and like now found a girl that he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my this is my baby boo. And I'm
Speaker 1: fat now and I've lost I lost my hair, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm settled and I'll go to church.
Speaker 2: You don't put this fat people.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the transition, this individual this is about too.
Speaker 3: We all know you, wavy baby.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys. I appreciate you guys. But no,
Speaker 2: it does seem that the transition happens younger than like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone in their mid thirties who are like, damn,
Speaker 2: now it's time for God. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe mid forties that that happens. Though
Speaker 1: after that, first of us, I think you find God.
Speaker 1: God's always to fix the thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's either been introduced at a young
Speaker 1: age and therefore you believe it, or when you come
Speaker 1: back to it, it's to fix something. It's not just
Speaker 1: like for a fucking study program, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That was trick.
Speaker 3: Both that and therapy is tricky to me because I
Speaker 3: hate the idea that people need to feel like they
Speaker 3: have to be fixed or people are trying to fix them,
Speaker 3: or that they have to change, because you don't have
Speaker 3: to change at all. Like there's always this idea, like
Speaker 3: I think that's prevalent in culture, that something is wrong
Speaker 3: with people you know, everyone is like trying to get
Speaker 3: a new and improve or do this and that or
Speaker 3: do things that are super complicated and not kind of
Speaker 3: keep things simple, and it makes people feel worse, like
Speaker 3: the more you try to fix or the more that
Speaker 3: therapy is like, oh you need this and that. Like
Speaker 3: I probably would have never done therapy if I wasn't
Speaker 3: forced to do it, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: I still believe in it if people are up to it.
Speaker 3: But I think it's also an idea, like there's this
Speaker 3: fixing culture that there's something wrong with people and it's
Speaker 3: like yo, like do what you're gonna do, like it's
Speaker 3: your life, like no one is trying to change you.
Speaker 3: I think that's what fucks people up more than the
Speaker 3: thing like of the idea of therapy to begin with,
Speaker 3: Like you know, or you're.
Speaker 1: Saying, you're saying there's something there's something short sighted and
Speaker 1: looking at this in terms of fixing and more as
Speaker 1: just a chance to be a better person than you
Speaker 1: are currently a better version of yourself. Yeah, you currently are.
Speaker 4: If you want to.
Speaker 3: But I also think there's like so many different ways
Speaker 3: to work through depression, Like whatever works for you or
Speaker 3: doesn't work if you may not even realize it. You
Speaker 3: have to have the self awareness for it. But it's
Speaker 3: not up to other people. Like I would never say
Speaker 3: like I would be, I would you know, motivate people
Speaker 3: to do it if they would want to do it,
Speaker 3: or like would be, But I never would be like
Speaker 3: a postal child for like everybody should go to therapy.
Speaker 3: I think that's misguided because it feels like you have
Speaker 3: to fix. It's a fixing thing, and it's like people
Speaker 3: do what works for them and they just figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need we need to heal people, and we
Speaker 1: also need devils. That's what keeps the whole thing balanced.
Speaker 4: So you know, we don't need devil.
Speaker 2: Come on, baby wants to be a devil. That's the
Speaker 2: big I see his bigger kitchen for that voice box.
Speaker 1: Right now, Come on, baby.
Speaker 2: Box. You see I've.
Speaker 3: Seen them stab you in your butt videos on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, man, I hope Nikki
Speaker 3: walks in on this nigga doing this. I saw his
Speaker 3: eyes move up and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 3: I hope his daughter sees him right now.
Speaker 1: You know what that was? The delivery man was coming,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, ship is he gonna hear
Speaker 1: me through the door saying I'm gonna stab someone in
Speaker 1: the aus and then have to like leave my my
Speaker 1: sugar fish outside.
Speaker 2: You said it about a lot of groups of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm gonna stab all y'all. Please come to
Speaker 1: the show in the in the Yeah, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you something to think about. You, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: something to think about.
Speaker 3: But stabbing is so egregious because everybody needs to sit.
Speaker 1: And that is the title of Jordan's new upcoming uh novel,
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to Sit. It's a y a novel. It's
Speaker 1: sort of an expansion of the everybody poop verse.
Speaker 4: It's an a novel.
Speaker 1: That's all right, we're gonna take one more break. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be back with more Jordan Temple when more my
Speaker 1: mama tell me.
Speaker 2: Something's going on, conspiracy theory. Welcome back to my mom
Speaker 2: and told me. We are deep in the throes of
Speaker 2: a conversation about mental health, how to do it, what
Speaker 2: to do with it, And maybe you don't need therapy.
Speaker 2: Maybe you hoop three times a week because ball is
Speaker 2: life and that's what gets you through it. When I
Speaker 2: hear judge.
Speaker 1: You we're open to all possibilities over here. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that they say is the cause of
Speaker 1: the persistence for black depression is because of inadequate to
Speaker 1: white people. Yes, and it's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: you're not wrong, no, I know, but it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a long haul here is they say
Speaker 1: that it is in part because of inadequate research as
Speaker 1: it relates to this larger issue in the black community,
Speaker 1: that depression on its own is hard to detect, in
Speaker 1: part because there are more than fifteen hundred possible combinations
Speaker 1: of symptoms that, in theory, a person can have, which
Speaker 1: means that your depression may not look like my depression.
Speaker 1: Even though we spend a ton of time together and
Speaker 1: are you know, sometimes living in the same household, that
Speaker 1: we can still have very different versions of depression. And
Speaker 1: white science has not yet learned how to detect those
Speaker 1: feelings inside of black people.
Speaker 2: I ain't that shit so much because they can pull
Speaker 2: up every goddamn crime statistic, we've ever had, food deserts,
Speaker 2: all this nonsense, but you can't figure out how we're feeling.
Speaker 2: There's been no studies on that this whole fucking time.
Speaker 1: And I just didn't think about it. They're like, nah,
Speaker 1: he's yelling in the street because of his personality.
Speaker 2: They got a lot of crime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: He really likes eating that jumbo honeybuton because he loves himself.
Speaker 1: That's just a centered twenty five year old man.
Speaker 2: Number one, number one consumers of all flaming hot dust
Speaker 2: and that's all cigarettes. We don't know how they feel
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I know they like spicy. Yeah, I know they like ment.
Speaker 1: That's that's about it.
Speaker 3: I've never seen somebody. I've never seen somebody look actually
Speaker 3: happy to like eat a chop cheese, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like, I think, I think chop. I think
Speaker 3: certain foods I see like black people eat not to
Speaker 3: like food. Shame, but I definitely it's like self. I'm like,
Speaker 3: or even not even black people just in general, but
Speaker 3: like this food we eat as Americans, where I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's self hatred. Like every taco, every taco bell like experiment.
Speaker 1: I'm like, when I was a kid, you could in
Speaker 1: certain corner stores in Bodega's Jordan because you're Spanish for
Speaker 1: some reason. In New York Eye Black Poppy store at
Speaker 1: corner stores you could buy some flaming hots, and then
Speaker 1: you could get the dude behind the like the counter
Speaker 1: to open it and pour meat and cheese inside of it,
Speaker 1: and then he would give you like a fork and
Speaker 1: you could just like have this flaming hot like nacho combination.
Speaker 1: And that was like a very common day throat like
Speaker 1: fucking jalapenos and that ship. Whatever you wanted, you can
Speaker 1: get that ship done. And none of us ever thought like, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's probably not a good sign for us, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We were just like, that's good food.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: That's so fucked up.
Speaker 3: Because it's mixed messages for like for like boys growing
Speaker 3: up and for girls growing up, like you hear sisters,
Speaker 3: it would get like like even Loope talking about they
Speaker 3: say the steroids in the chicken is the reason for
Speaker 3: the thickening and the young woman and it'd be like,
Speaker 3: you know, there's steroids in it. But then on the
Speaker 3: other side, it would be like, yo, you drink that
Speaker 3: grape soda, dude, you ain't gonna have no sperm.
Speaker 1: It was grape soda for y'all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Like just different. New York is wild because we've talked
Speaker 2: about the sperm, soda and nauseum.
Speaker 1: We've never gotten the grape.
Speaker 2: No, it's always been it's always been the furthest we've
Speaker 2: got is like Phanta, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we went as far as Phantom very recently.
Speaker 3: No, ours was tropical fantasy. Tropical fantasy is the sperm
Speaker 3: killer or the blue mountain dew. Don't be drinking those.
Speaker 3: But it's like, yo, who's getting all these girls pregnant?
Speaker 3: There's clearly nothing wrong with the soda. The SODA's mine.
Speaker 1: Or the soda. The soda ain't as strong as we
Speaker 1: thought it was.
Speaker 2: The floodgates, yeah, or the reason that it's not an
Speaker 2: army of us.
Speaker 3: I am wearing I am wearing a rubber bro'. I'm
Speaker 3: just drinking this blue stuff.
Speaker 1: And maybe did you drink your blue stuff?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, you can come in me. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I think is is a final piece maybe to
Speaker 1: add to this conversation is while black people on average
Speaker 1: are still less likely to kill themselves as it relates
Speaker 1: to feelings of depression, suicidal thoughts, all of that stuff,
Speaker 1: there has been a major uptick in people wanting to
Speaker 1: hurt themselves in the black community and some of that
Speaker 1: may be obviously related to not seeking help the same way,
Speaker 1: right that they said, while black people on average, the
Speaker 1: suicide numbers four black people have gone from twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one have gone from seven point three
Speaker 1: person or people per every one hundred thousand people to
Speaker 1: eight point seven per one hundred thousand people. So it's
Speaker 1: made like a one and a half person jump for
Speaker 1: in three years, this three year span.
Speaker 2: I mean that's pandemic years though as well.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one, you
Speaker 1: got pandemic through a big portion of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's like a huge that's like
Speaker 2: a significant enough occurrence to not to kind of makes
Speaker 2: you feel like it makes that day like i'd like
Speaker 2: to see it like from twenty twenty three to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's fascinating, and I don't disagree with you,
Speaker 1: but what is fascinating is that all of the numbers
Speaker 1: have risen across the board for everyone except white people.
Speaker 1: White people actually have dropped in numbers during that span
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. Lading the pandemic rather and and everybody
Speaker 1: else is way higher than they were so.
Speaker 4: White people are dropping less, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: White people are feeling more sturdy than ever, and they're
Speaker 1: standing ten toes down and they ain't moving baby.
Speaker 2: Truly, one of the more upsetting statistics given theah.
Speaker 1: And what end uh the.
Speaker 3: Dogs that's keeping white people alive. You see white white
Speaker 3: people escape depressions.
Speaker 1: Hates dogs, So I get that.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't hate dogs. Don't do that to me,
Speaker 2: first of all. But I've been given the chance, Like
Speaker 2: if dogs were given like a raised consciousness. I think
Speaker 2: the white people were the first ones they would turn on.
Speaker 2: I would hope so and whoever's fighting them mostly yeah,
Speaker 2: I would hope they Yeah, how.
Speaker 4: Conscious we talking like they could talk?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like talk well, not talk about the ship
Speaker 1: that they would talk about right now. You want them
Speaker 1: talking about like you know, I.
Speaker 2: Think any mastery of language, and they would turn on
Speaker 2: white people.
Speaker 1: You think you think basic.
Speaker 2: I don't think dogs like wearing clothes. I don't think
Speaker 2: like like wearing clothes. I don't think they like living
Speaker 2: in apartments. I don't think they like black people. No,
Speaker 2: that comes from an owner. It's just like a tension thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they were like biting us. It's like civil rights.
Speaker 2: They train them. That's the thing. Dogs aren't loyal, will
Speaker 2: bite anybody you tell them.
Speaker 4: To, but now it's in their genes to bite.
Speaker 1: I think you need them a little smarter than what
Speaker 1: you have them right now. They don't seem to have
Speaker 1: much allegiance beyond who's who's feeding them.
Speaker 3: They got the intelligence of a two year old who
Speaker 3: hates black people. That's what they's yea and Jordan.
Speaker 1: Jordan seems to think the black part is permanent, but.
Speaker 2: There's not coded forever. This is like one generation.
Speaker 1: They're born that way, and I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do about that part.
Speaker 2: You know what, Why is it always it always comes
Speaker 2: back to dogs and soda on this podcast. I swear to.
Speaker 1: God, dogs and motherfucking soda. That's all black people have
Speaker 1: conspiracies about man.
Speaker 3: Just thinking just the thought of dogs talking this is
Speaker 3: so scary to me because I do think they would
Speaker 3: call they would definitely call us the N word.
Speaker 2: Like every dog.
Speaker 1: I tend to think that when you know, when you're
Speaker 1: walking past the house and a dog is just like yacking,
Speaker 1: just like hard as fuck. It's just nigger, all right,
Speaker 1: all right? He's like he's a nice guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he's doing that. Yeah, I bet he doesn't.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, sir, it's not you. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: he hates as. It's not guy.
Speaker 1: I swear to God if you could hear what he's
Speaker 1: saying in his language. It's just a racial thing. It's
Speaker 1: not He's not a mean guy. He just doesn't like you.
Speaker 1: He was just I think I think we did it.
Speaker 1: I think this this covers the entire discussion. It certainly should.
Speaker 1: Could you tell the people where they can find you
Speaker 1: and what cool ship you have going on?
Speaker 4: I don't got no cool shit going on. You can't
Speaker 4: find me nowhere.
Speaker 1: I well, I guess I'm.
Speaker 3: Doing Sweet Lorraine, a solo show about my grandma, on
Speaker 3: the twenty third and twenty fourth of June at the Allsion.
Speaker 3: And you can find me at Courage Bagels in Virgil Village.
Speaker 3: It's really good bagels.
Speaker 4: Go there.
Speaker 3: I hope this reaches somebody so they can get me
Speaker 3: a real cool hat there. Every time I go, the
Speaker 3: employees are Courage Bagels have really cool hats, and they
Speaker 3: never plucked me in. But it's a really good place.
Speaker 3: Montreal style bagels. Go check it out and check out
Speaker 3: Rick's produce.
Speaker 1: Just go find Jordan that courage bagels and or give
Speaker 1: him my hat. I think he wants you to give
Speaker 1: him a hat when you see him there, and don't
Speaker 1: bring your racist dog. I guess he's not going to
Speaker 1: get along with it. And Bory, you want to tell
Speaker 1: the people where they can find you.
Speaker 2: A cool guy joke Safity seven on Instagram. Man, I'm
Speaker 2: really into these remote control boats, So if anybody wants
Speaker 2: wants it, if anybody wants to send me like more
Speaker 2: information I need. I need to figure out. I need
Speaker 2: a situation for my battery life to last longer on
Speaker 2: the water because it's just not going as long as
Speaker 2: I would like. So if anybody has any information about
Speaker 2: RC boats, you know, send that my way.
Speaker 1: Send my man boat, send my other man out. Yeah wait.
Speaker 2: Also June eight teeth them headlining the DC Improv with
Speaker 2: Jamel Johnson. May nineteenth, High Note Comedy in Denver. We
Speaker 2: got Brad Sativa coming up. Gonna be a good time.
Speaker 2: The boat's thing for real, because.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should priority to gas.
Speaker 2: Or if I should stay electric. I don't really know.
Speaker 1: As long as you can find me at Langston, Germy,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna keep helping you with this boat shit,
Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Wait till you try to boat that's gonna be your therapy. Wait,
Speaker 2: wait till you try a remote control boat. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be surprised. Of the five black guys I've let ride
Speaker 2: run them. Everyone liked it, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe I like it. I don't know that
Speaker 1: it's going to be the healing I need, but I
Speaker 1: believe I'll enjoy the boat.
Speaker 2: First step to healing is opening yourself up to healing soon. Damn.
Speaker 1: That's how uh. And it makes me think. And if
Speaker 1: you want to think like me, you can follow me
Speaker 1: at Langston on Instagram. After that, Yeah, I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: right to watch watch me, watch me eurostep this goofy
Speaker 1: conversation about boats, and if you want to see me live,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I'll be at Wise Guys in Utah, West Jordan, Utah,
Speaker 1: June twenty third and twenty fourth. I'll be at the
Speaker 1: Philly Punchline July sixth through eighth, and then I'll be
Speaker 1: at Dead Crow in Wilmington, North Carolina, July twenty eighth
Speaker 1: and twenty ninth. I would love for y'all to come
Speaker 1: out there. They're gonna be fun ones. And then, as always,
Speaker 1: follow the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel fucking you know.
Speaker 1: Send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, tell
Speaker 1: us how depressed we make you at my Mama Pod,
Speaker 1: Mymama Pod at gmail dot com. We would love to
Speaker 1: hear from you.
Speaker 4: We did it by bitch at Jordie Bloyd. You can
Speaker 4: follow me.
Speaker 5: My chips and your
Speaker 2: Kuala Bears are racists, money, turkey stuff I can't tell
Speaker 2: me