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Speaker 1: Look, we are documentarians, my friend. It's not our responsibility

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Speaker 2: Tried to clean you keep doing all that. I don't no,

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Speaker 1: And we finally work to prove that if the writers

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Speaker 1: they are going to need to employ the black Israelites.

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Speaker 2: I'm like stink Kerman and I'm your man from a

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Speaker 1: Don't love it, are going to get you those writing

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Speaker 4: What's the logic behind this? What's the logic behind listen?

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Speaker 3: Wanted to make sure logic matches up, because, as far

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Speaker 1: Turns out the coach didn't want me that bad.

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Speaker 1: He've already heard his voice, You've already heard his opinions

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Speaker 1: Give it up for Jordan Temple why fuck? Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: No remember it, say YouTube where that man is like

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Speaker 2: You always hope that Mother Nature is gonna strike back

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Speaker 1: Yeah, The Happening is a terrible film, but but I kind.

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Speaker 1: Black, No you're not. We be rooting for each other

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Speaker 4: Everybody black not to get coked.

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Speaker 4: Nah's transmutation.

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Speaker 1: He read about nicer white women and he was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Just read. I just read I just read a great expectations.

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Speaker 1: He's like, dog, they're giving out money. They're literally giving

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Speaker 2: I could tell what was the music on behind the video.

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Speaker 5: Something meaning you know, it was something truly like gut

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Speaker 1: But I don't even remember the song. It just triggers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to say you remember it. I

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Speaker 2: It's very interesting because I think a lot of it's

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Speaker 2: Like where your families like that? We're both your families

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say my mom certainly is not. She

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Speaker 1: I don't think she was like at all ignorant on

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, how big is your family?

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Speaker 1: Mine is? I'm I'm the oldest of five God damn yeah.

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Speaker 1: And but my shit's real separated because both my parents

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Speaker 1: and then the rest is like a mixing and matching situation, right,

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Speaker 2: your family, is there, like, is there any history of

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Speaker 1: No? No, No, My my grandmother literally stabbed my grandfather

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Speaker 4: Assassin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know them hug assassins that be going around

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you in therapy? Linson?

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Speaker 1: No, I've only gone to therapy once as it was

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Speaker 2: Because I'll be in there. Man, it's not great, but

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Speaker 2: I'm in there. I think I'm the first person in

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Speaker 1: Wow, Jordan, you go to therapy.

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Speaker 4: I actually got David into therapy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan put me on speak Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what a process it's been.

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Speaker 1: I probably need it. I let me be clear, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not bragging as.

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Speaker 3: Much as I all Right, you got a perfect family,

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Speaker 1: All right, shout shout out Freddy Dougs.

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Speaker 3: Like white wife, perfect family, we get it. All right,

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Speaker 3: You're perfect, all right, shout.

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Speaker 1: Out my man, dirty money, Freddy.

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Speaker 2: Wait, this is this is interesting to me. What would

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Speaker 6: Just out of curiosity, I think that that what would

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Speaker 1: I think that there is probably a level of immediate

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Speaker 2: But you don't think personally, because let's crack it open,

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Speaker 2: and this is like a men's group anyways. Now, why, yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you feel like you never were led towards that

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Speaker 1: I think I've lived with the aversion. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I have both a black family that sort of is,

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Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, emergency, motherfucker, let's fix this.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna let I'm gonna wait till you

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Speaker 2: And wait till you what did you step?

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Speaker 1: I hear this stuff works.

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Speaker 3: Striketh is gonna go on long enough, we're gonna see

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Speaker 4: It starts to smoke crack. So I think once.

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Speaker 7: Lengthy started smoking crack, once Lengths to start smoking crack,

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Speaker 7: I think he'll be in therapy. And actually, I think

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Speaker 7: this is perfect because I'm starting to sell crack.

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Speaker 1: So you see, well, first of all, if our peers

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Speaker 2: But if you're right, if I.

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Speaker 1: Do eventually start smoking crack, I will I promise you

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Speaker 1: both that I will go to therapy.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: I will do crack and therapy, hopefully not simultaneously, but

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Speaker 1: more than likely they will be.

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Speaker 4: You can do crack therapy. Sometimes crack can be therapy, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, don't you got a great sales pitch.

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Speaker 2: Yo, I don't listen. I don't this is this is

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Speaker 2: like the street level Pfizer right now, it's not it's not.

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, come on, you know what they do

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Speaker 1: over there, right, Come.

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Speaker 4: On, baby, you don't need those teeth.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, Pfizer is a trust stick brand. You

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Speaker 1: gotta think. All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more Jordan Temple and more. My mama

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Speaker 3: I.

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Speaker 1: Feel good, and you seem good and make love good.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome back to my mama told me. We are

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Speaker 2: discussing whether or not black people get I think we've

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Speaker 2: all decided black people get depression. I think we're discovered.

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Speaker 2: We're discussing the stigmatism against it in the black community.

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Speaker 2: With Jordan Temple, Liston has deflected all attempts to get

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Speaker 2: him into therapy and said that the only way it's

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Speaker 2: happened is if he smokes some crack, which is a step.

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Speaker 1: I think Jordan said that was the only way it's happening,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't fight it. I think that it's one

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Speaker 1: of the ways that will get me into therapy. It's

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Speaker 1: smoking crack. All right, Jordan, I did some research on

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Speaker 1: your conspiracy theory that we would love to unpack with you. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if any of this feels false to you, you should

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Speaker 1: say so, because I don't know much. But the National

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Speaker 1: Study of American Life shows that while more white people

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Speaker 1: are documented as having depression, seventeen point nine percent versus

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Speaker 1: ten point four percent in American black people, and then

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Speaker 1: twelve point nine in Caribbean black people. So Caribbean black

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Speaker 1: people went in by almost three percent against black people

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Speaker 1: in America for depression. They didn't mention African Sorry about that, David,

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Speaker 1: you have to bring that up.

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Speaker 4: So Caribbean black people, it says, are reported being more depressed,

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Speaker 4: more depressed. That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Haiti.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Like culturally Haitian like at all, but it's still I

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Speaker 3: guess my father, my father from Haiti, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I grew up around my grand to see my grandmother,

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Speaker 4: She didn't speak any English. So I was like, I

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Speaker 4: guess that's pretty Haitian.

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Speaker 3: I don't fucking know, like, so I guess I'm a

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Speaker 3: little bit I don't know a little yah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, Uh, I think the numbers didn't.

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Speaker 1: It surprised me, But then it didn't surprise me. I

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Speaker 1: think with that weird difference between us. But uh, it

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Speaker 1: also says that while we get have more of it

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Speaker 1: what I mean? So like, yeah, they get depressed, but

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Speaker 1: their depression often is not persisting throughout their entire life,

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Speaker 1: whereas for black people it often is, or at least

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Speaker 4: That makes something that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that sounds reasonable. We died first, I

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they said the persistence for white people is around

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Speaker 1: fifty six point five percent, and then oh no, the

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Speaker 1: whereas for white people it's thirty eight point six damn.

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Speaker 1: So we're way longer for persisting and throughout your whole

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Speaker 4: That's one thing. Black people are persistent.

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00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: Give this man a beat, if ever there was a

443
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: time to give the man a beat, I mean, get

444
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: him freestyle for a second.

445
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: I said I said, you know, there's the thing freestyle therapy.

446
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: Deep deep in the anals of quarantine. A nigga was

447
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: waking up every morning and freestyle wrapping for fifteen.

448
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Minutes damn straight like you no breaks in.

449
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: There, no breaks, not I didn't drink water. Huh.

450
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: No beats not like no beats just like fuck.

451
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: No beats beats beat.

452
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: Wait, So, so do you feel like, all right now

453
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: that you you've been a freestyle for Officionado, let's say,

454
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: because we don't know what kind of quality work you're

455
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: putting out there, but fifteen minutes straight, do you feel

456
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: ready for like the five Fingers of death? Shit on sway?

457
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: Like the like, are you could?

458
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 5: You?

459
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: Could you live by your freestyl and die by your freestyling?

460
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: Or is it nod?

461
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: You know what would make the five It's easy for

462
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: me to do the five Fingers of death. You know

463
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: why because I got six fingers. Do you understand when

464
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: I freestyle?

465
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: No? I don't.

466
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. Ready scared me.

467
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: It was like some cool New York talk.

468
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: I didn't pictured it in my head. I was like,

469
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: I still don't know what that means, but yeah, go

470
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: ahead when you said it.

471
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, baby, come on, you and Jordie's world.

472
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna make sense.

473
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: Baby. You know what I'm saying. Well, okay, I think

474
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: we got I gotta beat you.

475
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, I need to give my man, give

476
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: my man his his taste.

477
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 4: I need these freestyles like water baby.

478
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: Come on, baby, there it is.

479
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: Yo. Turn my headphones up.

480
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, off the top of the dome.

481
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: We talked about depression and I'm home.

482
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: Almost forgot about the freestyle to day, but I didn't.

483
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: I was laying down in that thing, and I was

484
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: jerking off and I was rapping. I was jerking off,

485
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: and I said, what time is it almost time for.

486
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: My mama told me.

487
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: The fucking bogs nigga know nothing about that.

488
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Yep, nah, yep, I mean I feel better six fingers.

489
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: Imagine imagine, imagine thirteen and a half, four minutes of that.

490
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: We know you didn't get enough. My man could have

491
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: kept fucking.

492
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: Jerking off in the first ninety seconds. That's what the

493
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: last six minutes would have done.

494
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: It was gonna get grotesque.

495
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: Blowing my blowing my load in the first twenty seconds.

496
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Bro, I I was I was like nine years old

497
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: when I first went to therapy.

498
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Like oh super young, I was forced to go was

499
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: this oh so this was this was someone else in

500
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: your life being like, yo, you need help. My mom

501
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: forced me to go whoa And was your mom in like, uh,

502
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: this is dire type ship or was she just seeing

503
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: something in you and was like, hey, I think this

504
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: would be helpful moving forward kind of thing.

505
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: I guess I had like anger problems. I might have

506
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: been younger than that. I had like real I was

507
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: just like really wiling. Kids would like fuck with me

508
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: and I'd be wiling, and then yeah, I just was.

509
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: My mom was just like I can't let me go

510
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: somewhere for an hour or talks.

511
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: You can't places with blocks or some ship. I can't.

512
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: I can't take this, nigga. That's when I started.

513
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Bopping these kids on the head.

514
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah it off.

515
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: That's when I started freestyle, and yeah, I think I

516
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: mean kids get depressed too. I think the problem with

517
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: black kids is people they don't think so much about

518
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: like their inner world as much like I think. I

519
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of people that don't even see

520
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna say something controversial, but I think people

521
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: quote this a lot, like the most disrespected person in

522
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: the world is the black woman, the Malcolm X quote,

523
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: which is true, but I also feel like at the

524
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: same time, it's also acknowledgement that like black children aren't people,

525
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because it's like they are

526
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: being raised by women and they have like no right,

527
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like children are the most

528
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: vulnerable group on the planet, but Malcolm X will never

529
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: raise his own awareness to speak for the rights of children,

530
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: to think that they're a person, you know what I mean.

531
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: Not saying he's right or wrong.

532
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: But I just think it's interesting because there's a there's

533
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: probably a mother or a father or somebody went home

534
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: and beat that kid, and it's just like is it

535
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like yeah, no, Like at

536
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: no point have people culturally shifted the the attention on

537
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: each group, Like it's it's always feels like a gender

538
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: was never like the rights of children or not that

539
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: it's never, but like black children are like completely forgot about.

540
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if part of that is is that the

541
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: intention at least of political leaders of sort of like

542
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: our you know, our heroes as they were champions. I

543
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 1: guess there's maybe a better word, But if part of

544
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: what their purpose is is to make the world better

545
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: for the existing children and subsequent when we don't think

546
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: to mention them because they're like, well, I'm talking to

547
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: the adults to fix y'all more than i'm speaking to

548
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: this generation that's still in theory has a chance to

549
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: just live out of harm's way, if that makes sense.

550
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: I think that's a difficult idea though, because then who

551
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: are you assuming that's doing the work, this generation of

552
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: broken people that you're speaking to us, right?

553
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And maybe that's the shortscidedness of politics, right It is, like,

554
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's old people yelling

555
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: at old people to be different, and motherfuckers don't do that. Whereas, like,

556
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: if politics were truly aimed at the people who things

557
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: were affecting currently, we wouldn't have an eighteen year old voting,

558
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I think politics should

559
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: be for children. I think we should be like trying

560
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: to legitimately talk to kids and be like, hey, what

561
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: do you think is fucked up? How do we make

562
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: the world what you're going to avenge grow up to

563
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: live inside of?

564
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: I think that I agree with that. Do you think

565
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: that's a politicians.

566
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 4: Joe Biden and Kamala need to listen.

567
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I keep asking Joe Biden to come on the podcast,

568
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: and he keep telling me about Popcorn as they call

569
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: my boy Popcorn, my man pop corn Pop. He had

570
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: a black friend named corn Pop and uh yeah, he

571
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: keeps telling me to call him.

572
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: I I definitely like the idea of talking about the

573
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: idea of a black children as far as like it

574
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: does seem like we learn I don't know you ever

575
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: just talked to white white children and they were aware

576
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: of their personhood a lot like like the the culture

577
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: is different for them as a kid. Like when I

578
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: was a kid, it was very much like nothing you

579
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 2: think matters. I pay for this house, this is my ship,

580
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: and then you gotta go and figure it out for yourself.

581
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: But there isn't a lot of like care for that

582
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: idea of like young personhood, which probably does lead more

583
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: to depression and things like that, or like just not

584
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: paying attention to it.

585
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: It's more important, it's who you. It shapes who you

586
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: are for life. So that's why I feel like not

587
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: like what he said was wrong, but that it was

588
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: misguided because like you're also speaking to when you speak

589
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: to adults, you forget that you're speaking to someone who

590
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: was once a child, who is an adult, who's dealing

591
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: with things they weren't able to or had to repress

592
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 4: as children, and now they're holding onto that. And that's

593
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: why I think that is more, if not more, if

594
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: not more important, to address the child in people and

595
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: to address the children that are existing, so that adults

596
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: can deal with the fucking problems they had and be

597
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: able to like get a hold of that that child

598
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: that was lost or hurt so that they don't repeat

599
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: that and then just inflict that same damage on living

600
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: existing children or like I said that, or repeat the

601
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: same kind of or repress the emotions that they had

602
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: from childhood. That's the whole point of therapy.

603
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: Like you are who you are as an adult because

604
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: of these childhood memories that are repressed, because you weren't

605
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: able to have your own agency, because you weren't able

606
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: to express emotion. It is repressed, and you are depressed

607
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: maybe as an adult because of those emotions and that

608
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: anger you weren't able.

609
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: To express as a child.

610
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: You know, That's why not only I think it is important,

611
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: but that's why a lot of black people have a

612
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 3: hard time accepting that they are depressed as adults because

613
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: as children they were so damaged and forgotten about and

614
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: thrown to the wayside. That's you know what I mean.

615
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: Ye Black children are the most discarded people. And you

616
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: see people grow up, you know, these black boys and

617
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: girls who are like dealing with it, and it's like,

618
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: you know, we're talking about circumstance. We're not talking about

619
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: the problems. Maybe we happened each other, like there are

620
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: problems out of the world, different things. But it's also

621
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: like getting in touch with and healing that that child

622
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: a little bit.

623
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: He to therapize this whole podcast.

624
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: But hey, no, I mean, you know, we accept all

625
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: all versions of the podcast, even even the ones that

626
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: make us go, you're right, brother, are right now.

627
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: It's whatever.

628
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: It's a writer strike man.

629
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: We all gonna be selling crack.

630
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Or smoking it or smoking it. But one of the

631
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: things to the larger point of people going untreated or

632
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: certainly not making the efforts to to solve their problems,

633
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: it says I read an article that said that fifty

634
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: seven percent of people with MDD major depression disorder, actually

635
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: get treatment. So only fifty percent, fifty seven percent of

636
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: people suffering through depression, specifically major depression disorder are actually

637
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: going to get the treatment. And then additionally, one of

638
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: the things that they say is the cause of that

639
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: is that eighty five percent of black people, and they're

640
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: not saying this is solely the cause, but eighty five

641
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: percent of black people identify as religious in some form,

642
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: somewhere between somewhat religious to very religious and turning more

643
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: towards church and the traditions of church instead of therapy

644
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: as this other source.

645
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: That's a difficult thing because we don't know what percent

646
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: of people of the church works for, right, Like, let's

647
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: say that's the number. What you say, it's like forty

648
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: three percent.

649
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Eighty five that identify religions.

650
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: So at that point of that eighty five who identify

651
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: religious versus the percentage of people who have MDD who

652
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: do not end up getting help, what percentage of them

653
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: that turned to the church are healed. Because it does

654
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: work for a lot of people. It's not it's not

655
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: like it's not my ticket, but that God shit, it

656
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: gets some people. You don't know anybody who was like

657
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: a terrorist and then they found God and you're like, man,

658
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: you used to put people in lockers and now you

659
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: just run the youth group.

660
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a decent you're a decent main now in

661
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: a way that you weren't supposed to be.

662
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: I'd because I don't think that eighty five percent religious

663
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: thing is necessary. I think it's necessarily all that terrible, Like,

664
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 2: I don't I don't view that as like a bad thing.

665
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: That's well, I think it is fair to acknowledge that.

666
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: The article also says that, like therapy, church can be

667
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: therapeutic for a lot of people. So they're not just

668
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: disgracing the eighty five percent who identify as religious. They're

669
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: merely saying that that level of religious sort of like

670
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: across the board doesn't exist in other racial groups.

671
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, different different things are therapy too. I

672
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: think that's the thing too. Like culturally we've gotten into

673
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: the one on one or black people or people need

674
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: to go to depression or need to go to therapy

675
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: or whatever. But like different things are therapy. You don't

676
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: have to engage one on one. There's like art therapy,

677
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: there's religiosity's therapy. There's you know, exercises therapy, there's all

678
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: kinds of things that's that that can be therapeutic.

679
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: So I watch anime and I'm I'm healed. So I

680
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe I've already been going to therapy.

681
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 4: Intenable word doesn't count.

682
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: Man, they agree to disagree. The autists are exceptional. They're

683
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: Japanese and they are exceptional.

684
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 3: I was I'm confused by like, I mean, maybe I'm

685
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: just not out there in the church world. But do

686
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: y'all ever meet new church people, like young church people,

687
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: like in their thirties, like in like, I don't. I

688
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: don't know a lot of church niggas that are young.

689
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: The people that I know who have converted did it

690
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: younger than thirty. It was like there was probably a

691
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: time from like twenty two to twenty six where I

692
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: know a good number of people who flipped it, you

693
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: know what I mean. A lot of it's like getting out,

694
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: you know, of either the military or jail, but.

695
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Like it's truly like every dude I know that like

696
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: went off to college and like wild out for a

697
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: while and like now found a girl that he's like, yeah,

698
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: this is my this is my baby boo. And I'm

699
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: fat now and I've lost I lost my hair, So yeah,

700
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm settled and I'll go to church.

701
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: You don't put this fat people.

702
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the transition, this individual this is about too.

703
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: We all know you, wavy baby.

704
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys. I appreciate you guys. But no,

705
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: it does seem that the transition happens younger than like, yeah,

706
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone in their mid thirties who are like, damn,

707
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: now it's time for God. Yeah.

708
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I think that maybe mid forties that that happens. Though

709
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: after that, first of us, I think you find God.

710
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: God's always to fix the thing, you know what I mean,

711
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's either been introduced at a young

712
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: age and therefore you believe it, or when you come

713
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: back to it, it's to fix something. It's not just

714
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: like for a fucking study program, you know what I mean.

715
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: That was trick.

716
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: Both that and therapy is tricky to me because I

717
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: hate the idea that people need to feel like they

718
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: have to be fixed or people are trying to fix them,

719
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: or that they have to change, because you don't have

720
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: to change at all. Like there's always this idea, like

721
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: I think that's prevalent in culture, that something is wrong

722
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: with people you know, everyone is like trying to get

723
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: a new and improve or do this and that or

724
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: do things that are super complicated and not kind of

725
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: keep things simple, and it makes people feel worse, like

726
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: the more you try to fix or the more that

727
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: therapy is like, oh you need this and that. Like

728
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: I probably would have never done therapy if I wasn't

729
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: forced to do it, you know what I mean, Like

730
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: I still believe in it if people are up to it.

731
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: But I think it's also an idea, like there's this

732
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: fixing culture that there's something wrong with people and it's

733
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: like yo, like do what you're gonna do, like it's

734
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: your life, like no one is trying to change you.

735
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: I think that's what fucks people up more than the

736
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: thing like of the idea of therapy to begin with,

737
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, or you're.

738
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Saying, you're saying there's something there's something short sighted and

739
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: looking at this in terms of fixing and more as

740
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: just a chance to be a better person than you

741
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: are currently a better version of yourself. Yeah, you currently are.

742
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: If you want to.

743
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: But I also think there's like so many different ways

744
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: to work through depression, Like whatever works for you or

745
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: doesn't work if you may not even realize it. You

746
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: have to have the self awareness for it. But it's

747
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: not up to other people. Like I would never say

748
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: like I would be, I would you know, motivate people

749
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: to do it if they would want to do it,

750
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: or like would be, But I never would be like

751
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: a postal child for like everybody should go to therapy.

752
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: I think that's misguided because it feels like you have

753
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: to fix. It's a fixing thing, and it's like people

754
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 3: do what works for them and they just figure it out.

755
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need we need to heal people, and we

756
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: also need devils. That's what keeps the whole thing balanced.

757
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 4: So you know, we don't need devil.

758
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: Come on, baby wants to be a devil. That's the

759
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: big I see his bigger kitchen for that voice box.

760
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: Right now, Come on, baby.

761
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 2: Box. You see I've.

762
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: Seen them stab you in your butt videos on Instagram.

763
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, man, I hope Nikki

764
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: walks in on this nigga doing this. I saw his

765
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: eyes move up and I was like, I was like,

766
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: I hope his daughter sees him right now.

767
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: You know what that was? The delivery man was coming,

768
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, ship is he gonna hear

769
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: me through the door saying I'm gonna stab someone in

770
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: the aus and then have to like leave my my

771
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: sugar fish outside.

772
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 2: You said it about a lot of groups of people.

773
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm gonna stab all y'all. Please come to

774
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the show in the in the Yeah, I'm gonna give

775
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: you something to think about. You, I'm gonna give you

776
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: something to think about.

777
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: But stabbing is so egregious because everybody needs to sit.

778
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: And that is the title of Jordan's new upcoming uh novel,

779
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to Sit. It's a y a novel. It's

780
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: sort of an expansion of the everybody poop verse.

781
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 4: It's an a novel.

782
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: That's all right, we're gonna take one more break. We're

783
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna be back with more Jordan Temple when more my

784
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: mama tell me.

785
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 2: Something's going on, conspiracy theory. Welcome back to my mom

786
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: and told me. We are deep in the throes of

787
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: a conversation about mental health, how to do it, what

788
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: to do with it, And maybe you don't need therapy.

789
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Maybe you hoop three times a week because ball is

790
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: life and that's what gets you through it. When I

791
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: hear judge.

792
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: You we're open to all possibilities over here. And one

793
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: of the things that they say is the cause of

794
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: the persistence for black depression is because of inadequate to

795
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: white people. Yes, and it's a little bit of a

796
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: you're not wrong, no, I know, but it's a little

797
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: bit more of a long haul here is they say

798
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: that it is in part because of inadequate research as

799
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: it relates to this larger issue in the black community,

800
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: that depression on its own is hard to detect, in

801
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: part because there are more than fifteen hundred possible combinations

802
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: of symptoms that, in theory, a person can have, which

803
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: means that your depression may not look like my depression.

804
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: Even though we spend a ton of time together and

805
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: are you know, sometimes living in the same household, that

806
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: we can still have very different versions of depression. And

807
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: white science has not yet learned how to detect those

808
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: feelings inside of black people.

809
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: I ain't that shit so much because they can pull

810
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: up every goddamn crime statistic, we've ever had, food deserts,

811
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: all this nonsense, but you can't figure out how we're feeling.

812
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: There's been no studies on that this whole fucking time.

813
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: And I just didn't think about it. They're like, nah,

814
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: he's yelling in the street because of his personality.

815
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: They got a lot of crime.

816
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

817
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: He really likes eating that jumbo honeybuton because he loves himself.

818
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: That's just a centered twenty five year old man.

819
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Number one, number one consumers of all flaming hot dust

820
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: and that's all cigarettes. We don't know how they feel

821
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: about it.

822
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: I know they like spicy. Yeah, I know they like ment.

823
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: That's that's about it.

824
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: I've never seen somebody. I've never seen somebody look actually

825
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: happy to like eat a chop cheese, you know what

826
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like, I think, I think chop. I think

827
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: certain foods I see like black people eat not to

828
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: like food. Shame, but I definitely it's like self. I'm like,

829
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: or even not even black people just in general, but

830
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: like this food we eat as Americans, where I'm like,

831
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: that's self hatred. Like every taco, every taco bell like experiment.

832
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, when I was a kid, you could in

833
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: certain corner stores in Bodega's Jordan because you're Spanish for

834
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: some reason. In New York Eye Black Poppy store at

835
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: corner stores you could buy some flaming hots, and then

836
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: you could get the dude behind the like the counter

837
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: to open it and pour meat and cheese inside of it,

838
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: and then he would give you like a fork and

839
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: you could just like have this flaming hot like nacho combination.

840
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: And that was like a very common day throat like

841
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: fucking jalapenos and that ship. Whatever you wanted, you can

842
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: get that ship done. And none of us ever thought like, man,

843
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: that's that's probably not a good sign for us, you

844
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We were just like, that's good food.

845
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: Let's go.

846
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: That's so fucked up.

847
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: Because it's mixed messages for like for like boys growing

848
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: up and for girls growing up, like you hear sisters,

849
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: it would get like like even Loope talking about they

850
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: say the steroids in the chicken is the reason for

851
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: the thickening and the young woman and it'd be like,

852
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: you know, there's steroids in it. But then on the

853
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: other side, it would be like, yo, you drink that

854
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: grape soda, dude, you ain't gonna have no sperm.

855
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: It was grape soda for y'all.

856
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

857
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: Like just different. New York is wild because we've talked

858
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: about the sperm, soda and nauseum.

859
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: We've never gotten the grape.

860
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: No, it's always been it's always been the furthest we've

861
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: got is like Phanta, right.

862
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we went as far as Phantom very recently.

863
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: No, ours was tropical fantasy. Tropical fantasy is the sperm

864
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: killer or the blue mountain dew. Don't be drinking those.

865
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: But it's like, yo, who's getting all these girls pregnant?

866
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: There's clearly nothing wrong with the soda. The SODA's mine.

867
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Or the soda. The soda ain't as strong as we

868
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: thought it was.

869
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: The floodgates, yeah, or the reason that it's not an

870
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: army of us.

871
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: I am wearing I am wearing a rubber bro'. I'm

872
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: just drinking this blue stuff.

873
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: And maybe did you drink your blue stuff?

874
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: Yes?

875
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: Okay, you can come in me. One of the things

876
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: that I think is is a final piece maybe to

877
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: add to this conversation is while black people on average

878
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: are still less likely to kill themselves as it relates

879
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: to feelings of depression, suicidal thoughts, all of that stuff,

880
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: there has been a major uptick in people wanting to

881
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: hurt themselves in the black community and some of that

882
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: may be obviously related to not seeking help the same way,

883
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: right that they said, while black people on average, the

884
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: suicide numbers four black people have gone from twenty eighteen

885
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one have gone from seven point three

886
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: person or people per every one hundred thousand people to

887
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: eight point seven per one hundred thousand people. So it's

888
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: made like a one and a half person jump for

889
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: in three years, this three year span.

890
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's pandemic years though as well.

891
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one, you

892
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: got pandemic through a big portion of that.

893
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's like a huge that's like

894
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 2: a significant enough occurrence to not to kind of makes

895
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: you feel like it makes that day like i'd like

896
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: to see it like from twenty twenty three to twenty

897
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven.

898
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's fascinating, and I don't disagree with you,

899
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: but what is fascinating is that all of the numbers

900
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: have risen across the board for everyone except white people.

901
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: White people actually have dropped in numbers during that span

902
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. Lading the pandemic rather and and everybody

903
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: else is way higher than they were so.

904
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: White people are dropping less, is what you're saying.

905
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: White people are feeling more sturdy than ever, and they're

906
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: standing ten toes down and they ain't moving baby.

907
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: Truly, one of the more upsetting statistics given theah.

908
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: And what end uh the.

909
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: Dogs that's keeping white people alive. You see white white

910
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: people escape depressions.

911
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: Hates dogs, So I get that.

912
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't hate dogs. Don't do that to me,

913
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: first of all. But I've been given the chance, Like

914
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: if dogs were given like a raised consciousness. I think

915
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: the white people were the first ones they would turn on.

916
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: I would hope so and whoever's fighting them mostly yeah,

917
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: I would hope they Yeah, how.

918
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 4: Conscious we talking like they could talk?

919
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like talk well, not talk about the ship

920
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: that they would talk about right now. You want them

921
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: talking about like you know, I.

922
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: Think any mastery of language, and they would turn on

923
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: white people.

924
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: You think you think basic.

925
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't think dogs like wearing clothes. I don't think

926
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: like like wearing clothes. I don't think they like living

927
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: in apartments. I don't think they like black people. No,

928
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: that comes from an owner. It's just like a tension thing. Yeah,

929
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: but they were like biting us. It's like civil rights.

930
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: They train them. That's the thing. Dogs aren't loyal, will

931
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: bite anybody you tell them.

932
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: To, but now it's in their genes to bite.

933
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: I think you need them a little smarter than what

934
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: you have them right now. They don't seem to have

935
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: much allegiance beyond who's who's feeding them.

936
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: They got the intelligence of a two year old who

937
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: hates black people. That's what they's yea and Jordan.

938
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: Jordan seems to think the black part is permanent, but.

939
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: There's not coded forever. This is like one generation.

940
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: They're born that way, and I don't know what to

941
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: do about that part.

942
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: You know what, Why is it always it always comes

943
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: back to dogs and soda on this podcast. I swear to.

944
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: God, dogs and motherfucking soda. That's all black people have

945
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: conspiracies about man.

946
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: Just thinking just the thought of dogs talking this is

947
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 3: so scary to me because I do think they would

948
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: call they would definitely call us the N word.

949
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: Like every dog.

950
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: I tend to think that when you know, when you're

951
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: walking past the house and a dog is just like yacking,

952
00:56:41,719 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 1: just like hard as fuck. It's just nigger, all right,

953
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: all right? He's like he's a nice guy. I don't

954
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: know why he's doing that. Yeah, I bet he doesn't.

955
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, sir, it's not you. I'm sorry

956
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: he hates as. It's not guy.

957
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: I swear to God if you could hear what he's

958
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: saying in his language. It's just a racial thing. It's

959
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: not He's not a mean guy. He just doesn't like you.

960
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: He was just I think I think we did it.

961
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: I think this this covers the entire discussion. It certainly should.

962
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Could you tell the people where they can find you

963
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: and what cool ship you have going on?

964
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: I don't got no cool shit going on. You can't

965
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 4: find me nowhere.

966
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: I well, I guess I'm.

967
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Doing Sweet Lorraine, a solo show about my grandma, on

968
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: the twenty third and twenty fourth of June at the Allsion.

969
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: And you can find me at Courage Bagels in Virgil Village.

970
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: It's really good bagels.

971
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 4: Go there.

972
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: I hope this reaches somebody so they can get me

973
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: a real cool hat there. Every time I go, the

974
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: employees are Courage Bagels have really cool hats, and they

975
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: never plucked me in. But it's a really good place.

976
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: Montreal style bagels. Go check it out and check out

977
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: Rick's produce.

978
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Just go find Jordan that courage bagels and or give

979
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: him my hat. I think he wants you to give

980
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: him a hat when you see him there, and don't

981
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: bring your racist dog. I guess he's not going to

982
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: get along with it. And Bory, you want to tell

983
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: the people where they can find you.

984
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: A cool guy joke Safity seven on Instagram. Man, I'm

985
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: really into these remote control boats, So if anybody wants

986
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: wants it, if anybody wants to send me like more

987
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: information I need. I need to figure out. I need

988
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: a situation for my battery life to last longer on

989
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: the water because it's just not going as long as

990
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: I would like. So if anybody has any information about

991
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: RC boats, you know, send that my way.

992
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Send my man boat, send my other man out. Yeah wait.

993
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: Also June eight teeth them headlining the DC Improv with

994
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: Jamel Johnson. May nineteenth, High Note Comedy in Denver. We

995
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: got Brad Sativa coming up. Gonna be a good time.

996
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: The boat's thing for real, because.

997
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should priority to gas.

998
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 2: Or if I should stay electric. I don't really know.

999
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: As long as you can find me at Langston, Germy,

1000
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna keep helping you with this boat shit,

1001
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about.

1002
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: Wait till you try to boat that's gonna be your therapy. Wait,

1003
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: wait till you try a remote control boat. You're gonna

1004
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: be surprised. Of the five black guys I've let ride

1005
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: run them. Everyone liked it, so.

1006
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe I like it. I don't know that

1007
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be the healing I need, but I

1008
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: believe I'll enjoy the boat.

1009
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: First step to healing is opening yourself up to healing soon. Damn.

1010
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: That's how uh. And it makes me think. And if

1011
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: you want to think like me, you can follow me

1012
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: at Langston on Instagram. After that, Yeah, I'm gonna move

1013
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: right to watch watch me, watch me eurostep this goofy

1014
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: conversation about boats, and if you want to see me live,

1015
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: you can.

1016
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1017
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: I'll be at Wise Guys in Utah, West Jordan, Utah,

1018
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: June twenty third and twenty fourth. I'll be at the

1019
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: Philly Punchline July sixth through eighth, and then I'll be

1020
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: at Dead Crow in Wilmington, North Carolina, July twenty eighth

1021
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: and twenty ninth. I would love for y'all to come

1022
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: out there. They're gonna be fun ones. And then, as always,

1023
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: follow the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel fucking you know.

1024
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: Send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, tell

1025
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: us how depressed we make you at my Mama Pod,

1026
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: Mymama Pod at gmail dot com. We would love to

1027
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: hear from you.

1028
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 4: We did it by bitch at Jordie Bloyd. You can

1029
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 4: follow me.

1030
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 5: My chips and your

1031
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: Kuala Bears are racists, money, turkey stuff I can't tell

1032
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Speaker 2: me