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Speaker 1: Really listened to me What White Men Can Jump?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network Monday, March sixteenth, Im J. Skeets

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Speaker 2: and alongside me, as always, Task mellists, Hey, everybody, top task.

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Speaker 2: We got the Bearded one, Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo.

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Speaker 2: And the last, but not least making the magic happen

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Speaker 2: is jd.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 3: There isn't here.

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Speaker 2: We are no international man of mystery today. Ley is

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Speaker 2: at home holding down the fort. But we got a

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Speaker 2: fun podcast in store for you. But first let's get

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Speaker 2: to the quick sort of coronavirus slash NBA update because

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Speaker 2: the CDC issued a recommendation on Sunday that no events

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Speaker 2: or gathering should include more than fifty people for the

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Speaker 2: next eight weeks. As a result, NBA owners and executives

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Speaker 2: are bracing for the possibility of a mid to late

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Speaker 2: June as a sort of best case scenario here for

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Speaker 2: the league's return. This would obviously have quite the effect

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Speaker 2: on not only this season and these playoffs if we

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Speaker 2: ever get to them, but also then the draft and

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Speaker 2: then the startup free agency, and then Summer League and

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Speaker 2: ultimately next season. So this is something that you know,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna probably tackle later this week, you know, either

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Speaker 2: with a standalone podcast or even when we go Beach

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Speaker 2: Step In. I know we're getting a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: of course about what should the NBA do now and

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Speaker 2: what can they do? We'll get to that later, right

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Speaker 2: you know, we wanted to bring you a little joy

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Speaker 2: here today, So get your questions in for that Beach

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Speaker 2: Step In podcast, which we're going to get too later

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Speaker 2: this week. Email them in questions comments to No Dunks

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Speaker 2: at the Athletic dot com. Follow us on social media

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: But today, guys, let's put a little smile on people's faces. Today,

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Speaker 2: we're excited to introduce our new podcast series, Film Session. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a very original, very unique idea or a couple of

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Speaker 2: bros are gonna watch a movie and then talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But that's what we're gonna do here, you know, again

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Speaker 2: during this break in the NBA right now. The idea

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Speaker 2: is every week, but who knows, maybe there's a great

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Speaker 2: response to this and we'll kick it up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But every week at least we're gonna watch and review

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Speaker 2: a popular basketball movie, and maybe it won't be basketball

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Speaker 2: in the future. I'm sure Missus doubt Fire will eventually

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Speaker 2: get on this.

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Speaker 3: Is there a scene? Is there a basketball scene in there?

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Speaker 3: I don't really remember, so you can see her.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we play soccer for sure. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: there's a sports an go swimming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll start with basketball movies, but we'll eventually work

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Speaker 2: our way to Missus doubt Fire. But today our first

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Speaker 2: movie it is White Man Can't Jump, released in nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety two, directed written by Ron Shelton, starring Wesley Snipes,

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Speaker 2: Woody Harrelson, Rosie Perez. Here is the IMDb synopsis. Okay,

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Speaker 2: black and white basketball hustlers joined forces to double their

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Speaker 2: Oh yah, of a longer movie. Flew by, though we'll

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot of all sex scenes a lot

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Speaker 2: when Brad is away, the boys away, and then again

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Speaker 2: before we get to the questions. The Tomato Meter critics

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Speaker 2: score seventy six percent for this movie. Audience scored sixty

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Speaker 2: eight percent, so lower than the critics thought. Again shocking,

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Speaker 2: Had everybody seen the movie before?

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Speaker 2: So you don't think you would actually ever.

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Speaker 4: Which one was the duck? I couldn't tell. Every single

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Speaker 3: It's like all hand percussion, right, Like it's like a

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Speaker 3: Like the basketball, the first scene, the first basketball scene

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Speaker 3: another character, I guess you got to pay it off

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Speaker 2: But it's the worst basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Venice Beach. This a cappello trio that we

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Speaker 4: Are they a real thing? They must, I mean.

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Speaker 3: You can see what he have in the problems when

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're right.

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Speaker 1: And there's really only two references to dunky. We just

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's like one hour in and two hours So the

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Speaker 1: movie is based on like two disconnected scenes. There's no

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Speaker 1: tie into white men not being able to jump until

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Speaker 1: like an hour in. Yeah, I mean there's a white

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Speaker 1: JD's cargo shorts on, he's got a double scrant honestly

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Speaker 1: that he's got the hat on that he keeps starting

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Speaker 1: and the hats. Everybody's wearing hair.

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Speaker 3: Wearing hats, and I can't.

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Speaker 1: Cool guys versus the non cool guys that don't have

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Speaker 1: of warmed up to the cycling hat. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: He keeps his money in his hat.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of sucky and is underwear. Oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: what he's going for seventeen hundred.

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Speaker 2: I look, I'll admit I laughed a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: But then, like generally, for a two hour movie, I

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Speaker 4: But then like fifty minutes in I realized, Oh, she's

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Speaker 4: There's more like what's Yeah, they won the five thousand bucks,

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Speaker 1: But then our foods with the letter Q in the

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Speaker 3: I had once upon a time a Jeopardy study book,

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Speaker 1: Okay, if it's a Jeopardy book, then sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean no, you're right everything I think were

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Speaker 2: I mean you've played against him, you know him, Maybe

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Speaker 4: Is get on the lot.

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Speaker 2: She's charming though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you got her talking and she's just

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Speaker 1: You put her?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I'm not a Jeopardy like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love the guy who had won several in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have been a little talking that one through.

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Speaker 4: It's long enough for me to be playing along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I thought, Man, if Trey Kirby ever

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Speaker 2: all right at that Natural Disasters. Okay, again pretty generic

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Speaker 2: I think you would have beaten Gloria.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It might have been allowed at the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know enough about

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Speaker 1: to give it to her. Where did she come from?

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Speaker 3: So? What do you think the question or the answer

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Speaker 2: What did they ask?

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Speaker 3: Where's Leo's from this.

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Speaker 3: The nineteen eighty seven All Star Game is the most

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Speaker 1: For you?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else Trey that you were like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought that the Jeopardy scene was the last scene.

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Speaker 2: But no, there's a whole whole lot more after that.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole lot more, and it's a not a

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00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: happy ending. No really, I mean, Billy does not get like,

439
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 2: does not keep his girlfriend, and obviously has the friendship

440
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 2: now with Sydney, he's got that part. Well, well he's

441
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,719
Speaker 2: a terrible boyfriend. Yeah, really, he's a terrible boyfriend. I mean,

442
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 2: so she made the right choice.

443
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was started looking at Gloria like I look

444
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 4: at all the contestants on the Bachelor, which is you're

445
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 4: rooting for them to lose, right, Just you're way better

446
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 4: off without any of this stuff, So just walk away.

447
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 4: And she did so in that sense, it's a happy ending.

448
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. And uh, and then I guess Billy is just

449
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 2: going to be working for Sidney. Is like that, He's

450
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: just gonna get a job. Like I guess they're gonna

451
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 2: keep hooping and hustling. But Sidney's also got the construction tile. Yeah,

452
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 2: like you're just gonna teach him a skill like a trade.

453
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's nice, isn't it nice.

454
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: I mean that's the real relationship in the in the movie.

455
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 4: To me, I feel like they were leaving it open

456
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 4: for a sequel, Like that's what it felt like to me.

457
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean and over the last couple of years,

458
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've been following this at all, there

459
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: have been rumors reports that there is a sequel in

460
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: the mix like Blake Griffin was going to be I

461
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: remember heavily great point. Great point, okay. I will say

462
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: in doing some research about this in terms of the sequel,

463
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: that probably never happened because the director Shelton, he actually

464
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: sued Fox. There was he won ten million dollars I think,

465
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: so there was something.

466
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 3: To be able to dug.

467
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that. I also read a story

468
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: with this movie he was asking for or they were saying,

469
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: you're behind schedule. Here, you're you know, we got to

470
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: get this back on track. And he because I guess

471
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: Shelton was a decent he's basically the Woody Harrelson character

472
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: by the sound of it, white guy, half decent a basketball,

473
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: can hold his own. He apparently, I don't know if

474
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: this is true. He played like a Fox exec one

475
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 2: on one two. Either if he lost then he would

476
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: have to like cut a day and a half of shooting,

477
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: or but if he won then they got to keep

478
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: it and he beat him. Yeah, there's all these funny

479
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 2: like little stories that have come out of this, especially

480
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: this is another good one. Just while we're on it,

481
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: the scene where you know, Wesley Snipes and Woody Hailson

482
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 2: the whole betting white Man can't jump scene where he's

483
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: gonna put it all on the line and loses it.

484
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: I guess when they were shooting it, they would between takes,

485
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: they'd go back to their trailers or stuff, and Woody

486
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 2: got like the rest of the crew in on it

487
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: that he was gonna bet Snipes, like, hey, lower the

488
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: rim a little bit every time, put some stickum on

489
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: my hand and I'll bet snipe.

490
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 3: So like I have, I actually can dunk. So like,

491
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how many takes they were doing this scene.

492
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: It's not that crazy of a scene.

493
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: You think they wouldn't take that long, but uh that

494
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: that he uh you know, he bets them and like

495
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: with the help of them lowering it a little bit

496
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: every bit of time and the ball sticking to his hands,

497
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: he apparently dunked it eventually and took Snipes money.

498
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, the scene sounds way more interesting than the actual modow.

499
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably the case with a lot of movies JD.

500
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, it was. It was sort of

501
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: oddly in a refreshing way, a depressing ending because it's

502
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: not like, oh, Billy gets it all in the end,

503
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: it's still got Gloria and and uh you can still hoop,

504
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: and he's still got another job. Like it just it's

505
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: not it's sort of sad and a little bit.

506
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a good choice by director. I thought

507
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: that was refreshing because I would have assumed it would

508
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: have been a happy ending. Yeah, I'd forgotten about the ending.

509
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't very memorable as you said.

510
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: No, I mean yeah, the ending ending is like they

511
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: have their little pow wow, Hey, I'll help you out,

512
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: and then they just start joking and basically, you suck.

513
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: Now you suck, let's hoop again, as they My favorite

514
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: thing in any basketball movie is when two guys that

515
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: are upset with each other just chuck the ball back

516
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: and forth at each other. It's a great way to

517
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: do it. Like two or three times in this movie,

518
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: different people do, and I just love the hand eye coordination.

519
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 2: Who's gonna drop it first? Okay, here's a wild couple

520
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: of things that hit me watching it. One, Billy what

521
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: he Helson's character, He's like sort of like Marty McFly.

522
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: A couple of reasons why. One the hat is very

523
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: Marty McFly like. Two, the idea of like with Marty

524
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: McFly you called him a chicken. He's like, no, no, no, no,

525
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: that's not how it's gonna go down. Like you can

526
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: get under his skin and rile him up that he's

527
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: got to then prove his point. I think the same

528
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: can be said sort of with with Billy. I had

529
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: a third reason, and I've totally forgotten it, But those

530
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: are the main reasons.

531
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: Why I can't remember, and I definitely didn't write it down.

532
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: They both were nikes. I guess they both had gamble

533
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: problems in a weird yeah, and.

534
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: Eventually Marty gets that he gets a jacket eventually, right

535
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: that like see that like a like sizes to himself

536
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: and he rests abundant size of himself. And that's the

537
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: weird thing. Also about Billy is that he's always wearing

538
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: the clothes that he's gonna play basketball in. He usually

539
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: has on a leather jacket kind of Marty mcflish. But

540
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: he's also carrying a gigantic duffel bag anytime.

541
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: What's in the bag. Yeah, he he needs to because

542
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: he's he's.

543
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: Wearing his basketball shoes, shorts, socks, he's got his hat

544
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: on forward when it's game time, it's backwards, but he's

545
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: still got a bag the size of like Matt Austin

546
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: rolling up to an airport.

547
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's scumbag, Steve. Honestly, he needs to be reminded,

548
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: like twice in this movie to shower.

549
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, after playing basketball.

550
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: Is he trying to give off a hobo vibe like

551
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: I got my knife in my bag?

552
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe so it's all part of the hustle, okay. Yeah,

553
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 2: and they are living sort of like place to place too,

554
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 2: because they're on the run like the Sticky Brothers.

555
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta talk about that. I mean, that's the worst

556
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 3: storyline of the whole movie for me, the Stooky Brothers

557
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: but chasing him down for him to pay off his debt.

558
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, God, it's hilarious. But yes, it is definitely

559
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: the worst.

560
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: But it's just I mean, I guess he needs a

561
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: reason to always be playing for money and to always

562
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: be trying to have more money because they got to

563
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: get what like seven thousand dollars? Yeah, seven or eo.

564
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: He never gets that much money. I mean, for sure,

565
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: he never gets that much.

566
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: And then they just take a picture of him looking

567
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: like he's dead so that they can scare people. Yeah,

568
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: very weird random, But yeah, I guess I guess it

569
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: just comes down to we need a reason for this

570
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 3: guy to be traveling all over the place playing for money.

571
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: Uh So one time he tried not to fix a game,

572
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: or tried to fix a game and had thought better

573
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: of it. I guess that's just like a leftover of

574
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: boxing movies too. Yeah, that's is similar to a boxing

575
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: movie maybe, right.

576
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: I have totally forgot about that part, Like why, like

577
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: what he did to get himself in trouble. He was

578
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: playing in a game in Louisiana, Like it's like a

579
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: old game, like what semi pro or something? Was he

580
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: in college or something at he was playing college ball

581
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: in Louisia.

582
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they want somebody in the SECONDLF said you

583
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: can't score.

584
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: He's like, yes, I can score. So then they had

585
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: to start scoring baskets. See Marty mcflyy large, right, But

586
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: they had had it in the plans to fix the game, right, Okay, okay,

587
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: And then he got riled up and he helped himself.

588
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: He couldn't help Himself's right.

589
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: I love those dudes. When he's they're showing him the

590
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: pictures of everybody who they've quote unquote killed and and

591
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: they don't say, look at these, look at these, look

592
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: this could happen to you. They go look at the polaroids,

593
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: look at the polarized, because they're all polarized. I wonder

594
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: if Polaroid's a sponsor they do now.

595
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: You'd have to like, look at my phone, look at it.

596
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: I had forgotten and Nora really brought it up, or

597
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: I guess she was like, wow, what is going on

598
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: in this movie? Very early on, this movie has so

599
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: much yelling in it. Everybody is yelling in this movie.

600
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: Billy is yelling at Sidney, Sidney is yelling at Billy.

601
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: Billy and Sidney are yelling at other teams.

602
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: Those teams are yelling.

603
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: At each other. Gloria is yelling at Billy.

604
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: It is a lot. It's you could The alternative title

605
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: for this movie is just yelling in.

606
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: Basketball Basketball all men can yell, white and black men

607
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: and women can yell. It's it's a lot.

608
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: The only movie with more yelling is probably The Goonies,

609
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: which is all yelling from beginning to end.

610
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not You're not wrong, But I guess I

611
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: was just caught up in the trash talk and Nora's like,

612
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: why are they always yelling like, you know, the being

613
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: macho out there on the.

614
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: Macho saying big butt all the time, chump all the time, buckethead,

615
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: just these macho insults.

616
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: Your mama jokes.

617
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: Get your big butt down in the post.

618
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: Let let's talk about.

619
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: I do like the unmacho scene of the guy who

620
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: pretends to go rob the convenience store and the store

621
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: owner Raymond as you can mean starts like owners like

622
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: Raymond Tioff.

623
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that funny. Yeah, that was a good little that's

624
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: a that's Marquise Johnson, right, Raymond former NBA player.

625
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: He's pretty good.

626
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: I thought he was very, very solid. Yeah, he was

627
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 2: a star player at U C. L A and then

628
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: had a pretty good NBA career to numbers.

629
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: Probably retired, right, Marquess Johnson retired with the box. Yeah,

630
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: he's always making his appearances and say what Yeah. Yeah,

631
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: he's always a funny guy.

632
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: He is great.

633
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: There's a couple other two. Freeman Williams, he plays duck.

634
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: He had an NBA career. He played for the Clippers,

635
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Jazz Bullets. He played for a while. I read somewhere

636
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: that Gary Payton makes an uncredited appearance as an unidentified

637
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: street baller in this I didn't see him. I don't

638
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: remember seeing GP. Maybe he's just in the background.

639
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: But uh.

640
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: And then I'll tell you one thing i'd forgotten about

641
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: this movie. That Dwayne Martin from Above the Rim is

642
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: in this movie. Oh yeah, he's a what duck or whatever.

643
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: He's one of the guys. I had totally forgot, and

644
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: that it was also him that he was in I

645
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: love Above the Rim.

646
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: I know he was in that movie.

647
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm totally forgotten he was in this movie as well.

648
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I've forgotten the lines. I guess that just happens in movies.

649
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: But it's pretty. It's so pretty. It's totally forgotten that.

650
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: And we go on sislay, we go, oh, yeah this movie.

651
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah forgot.

652
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like lines you've sort of heard once or over

653
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: the years. Yeah, but you're like, oh, that's where it

654
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: came from. Yeah, Okay, let's talk about the basketball scenes.

655
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: Is the basketball believable at all to you guys?

656
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: Know, even when you guys like Trey said, the first

657
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: scene is the best basketball scene, I guess, But it

658
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: ends on because every scene is two on two and

659
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: well no, they.

660
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: Say they played three on three at one point, don't

661
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: they aren't they playing three on three? I think it

662
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: is it always two on two?

663
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: I thought I thought early on there was a three

664
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: on three anyway.

665
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: And the first scene ends with one. I guess it's

666
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: a Woody pick or a Wesley Snipes but it's a

667
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: pick that takes out both guys like every time. Yeah,

668
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: a single. First of all, do you ever use picking two?

669
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot of screens all they do.

670
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: Several screens and back door cuts falling down, that's all

671
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: they do in.

672
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: This d and the craziest layups ever. Yeah, they are

673
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: bringing the jelly thirty years before jelly was even the thing.

674
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: A lot of unnecessary spins.

675
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: And it just cuts. It just cuts from you see

676
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: stuff happening on the ground to a cut of the

677
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: backboard and you see the ball going. Yeah, you're just

678
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: just smart editing, but not great basketballing because you know,

679
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: you don't see the guy shoot the ball. I mean

680
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: you see what he shoot.

681
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: You see what he shoot.

682
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

683
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: When what he has the ball and he's like the

684
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: one playing basketball, I feel like you're seeing a basketball player.

685
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: And when you're watching Wesley Snipes do it, it looks

686
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: like he's a dancer. Like it just looks like he's

687
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: totally choreographed, doing his dance move, doing his spins, doing

688
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: his cool little flips up to the hoop. It just

689
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: it reads more like ballet to me, like watching a

690
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: choreograph performance than two guys just playing basketball with each Yeah, we.

691
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: Never do we ever see Wesley Snipe Sidney Dean take

692
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: a jump shot in the in the actual games, good question.

693
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: He might take a jumper here and there.

694
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: He's get to the rim.

695
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: He's getting to the room at all times. He is

696
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: always getting the room. He plays pretty good defense, He's

697
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: always like and he passes the ball a bit, and

698
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: he's got a flair for the dramatic, doesn't he. Sidney

699
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: Dean's basketball game is part rondo, part Jeremy Lynn, and

700
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: part Pascal. He does the ball fake the rondo fake

701
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: ahole time, and he refuses to take an easy lay

702
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: up half the time. He always kicks it out. Jeremy Lynn.

703
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: I throw him in there because he used to love

704
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: to jump pass. Jeremy Lynn notorious for jumping in the

705
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: air and then passing. Sidney always has to jump before

706
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: he passes, almost always, and.

707
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: Then because this guy loves the spin man. He loves

708
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: the spin He spins so many times in this movie.

709
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Needs to behind the back, behind the back, behind the back,

710
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: throw it up, throw it up. Yeah, that's stright. And

711
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: when you mentioned Sidney not taking jumpers or you never

712
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: see him taking jumpers the game where he hustled Billy, Yeah,

713
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: and he's supposed to, you know, throw the game obviously,

714
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: you never see him not take shots like you just

715
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: you don't see him suck in that game. Really, I

716
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: found that a strange at it, Like he doesn't. You

717
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: don't see him miss on purpose. You don't see him,

718
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: you don't see him playing bad, and all of a sudden,

719
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: the game's over. Oh he threw the game.

720
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: Well, Billy does say all. He says once or twice

721
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: like what are you doing? Why didn't you take that shot?

722
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're right, we don't see it.

723
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more like he's just not giving it at all.

724
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: It's just not one hundred percent bought in, is what

725
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: it feels like, Rather than he's out there like intentionally

726
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: bricking away.

727
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: He does seem to be like a good defensive player too,

728
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: and he's not giving it as much.

729
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: On that locked in, I guess, but Rosie Perez knew

730
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: it right away as soon as what he what he

731
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: told her, Yeah, he didn't have his game. You got hustled. Yeah.

732
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: I like that part of the movie. I like the hustle,

733
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: the hustler.

734
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: That's the best part of the Yeah, it's great for me.

735
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 4: I mean that reveal it actually legitimately surprised me, and

736
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, okay, this is cool. And they

737
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: could they go into the belly of the Beast and

738
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: confront him right like, and then all the guys are

739
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: there when guy's cleaning his gun, I mean, there's just

740
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 4: it just feels dangerous and and and a bit scary, right,

741
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: and then it's like, yeah, we we hustles you. And

742
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: and that's where everything falls apart from me because the

743
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: next thing that I want to happen is a massive hustle, Like, yeah,

744
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: the hustle to end all hustles, Like let's go to

745
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: the tournament. Like the the whole time I'm watching the

746
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: tournament and watching would he go off like he's just

747
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: randomly yelling at everybody, right including the guy he's playing with. Yeah, say, okay,

748
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: this is part of a hustle, right, like this, there's

749
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: something there, there's a play here, but no, he's just

750
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: trying to make him his partner mad because he plays

751
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: better when he's mad. And is that if thing was

752
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: that established beforehand?

753
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean really, I don't know.

754
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were waiting for like a an ultimating

755
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: or like like a dirty rotten scoundrels style of at

756
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: the end of the movie, it's like, oh, guess what

757
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: Gloria was hustling you the whole time? Or you know,

758
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: like this whole thing is it just flipped on it

759
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 4: on on its head, you know what I mean, like

760
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: a kaiser SoSE yeah, kind of thing at the end

761
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: of the movie.

762
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so how about this, Yeah, Sydney's wife and Gloria,

763
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: they're the actual ultimate two on two basketball the sort

764
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: of h yeah, there's something there.

765
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: We'll have to have to start working on that script. It's, uh, yeah,

766
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

767
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying that that that part is

768
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: weird when what he's just going nuts really and and

769
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, he's just trying to get under the

770
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: skin of those guys. That sort of makes sense a

771
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: little bit, even though it's totally out of character. What

772
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: from what he's been doing exactly, and then yeah, yeah,

773
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: that is weird.

774
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: It's it's just strange.

775
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: It's just at the beginning of the movie, he's like

776
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: this brilliant con man, like he plays the con perfectly right,

777
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: and he shoots he's obviously able to shoot the basketball.

778
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: So but he cons Sydney just out of his sixty

779
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: two bucks and it's great, like it's it's a pleasure

780
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: to watch, right, And then Snipes does the same thing

781
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: back to him. Also, it's it's great if you go

782
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: back and watch all of the pantomime that happened before

783
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: Billy actually arrives, it's not that believable, But who cares.

784
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: He's just getting into character.

785
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 3: We're supposed to be, right.

786
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: So these are two very smart con men going up

787
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: against each other. So I wanted more of that, and

788
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: then instead, all of a sudden, Billy is revealed to

789
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 4: be kind of a dumb guy. Right after that moment,

790
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: it's just like, oh, this guy's stupid, Like he's just

791
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: very stupid. He's just making a scene for no reason.

792
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: And then he bets away all of his money and

793
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: he loses his girl, you know, in spite of everything

794
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: in spite of being this brilliant guy. He's not brilliant,

795
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: So how did he pull off the con? So that's

796
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 4: why where you're loses?

797
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And I don't I don't know whether

798
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: I loved or hated what he's oblivious, like just the

799
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: smirk on his face that Glory wanted to slap off

800
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: his face over and over, like he's this oblivious like

801
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm a dumb guy face like yeah, mouth Draymond Green

802
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: half open all the time. And you know I hated it.

803
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I obviously hated it, but you know, I guess you're

804
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: supposed to hate it, so I guess. Yeah, I wanted to,

805
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, tear him limb from limb like Gloria.

806
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: So you're not really rooting for him at times in

807
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: the movie.

808
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: Sure, absolutely not for me. Yeah, it's just like you're

809
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: yelling at the screen, what are you doing?

810
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

811
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: What are you doing? Okay, you have a gambling problem, fine,

812
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: but you could you can show a gambling problem, like

813
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: just go to the track, right, like like that's more

814
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: interesting to me, Like it's like I got twenty five

815
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: hundred bucks, I'm going to the track.

816
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: Your hands, JD.

817
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: The ball is literally in his hands when it was

818
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 4: always out of his hands. Yeah, you know.

819
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,919
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871
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872
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883
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884
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885
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,160
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886
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Speaker 2: Any other funny little scenes that you guys enjoyed from

899
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: this movie, let's.

900
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Stick out Well. JD just mentioned when they go into

901
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: the house there into the Vistavi apartments that's called, and

902
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: then the brains of the operation, Gloria and Ronda Dean,

903
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: they figure it all out. The men can't figure out

904
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: the dummies, and so Ron de Dean tells Gloria all

905
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: I care about is getting out of the vista you apartments,

906
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: because there ain't no vista, there ain't no view, and

907
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: there certainly ain't no vista of no view. It's good.

908
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: She delivers it very well.

909
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: I love the size of the television they're watching the

910
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: Pistons Lakers game on too, that one person can stand

911
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: in front of it and completely block it.

912
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: It is so small. But yeah, I guess it's nineties.

913
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

914
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: I just love that they're the one guy, like you said,

915
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: has the gun. They want their money back, and then

916
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: sporadically they're like you move. I think James Worthy just

917
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: scored a basket.

918
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: Hey that's a black guy. Hey that's Wesley, Snipe says

919
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: after James Worthy's.

920
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 3: I do should Billy have known that he was getting

921
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: conned by Robert and Wesley Snipes Robert and Sidney Because Robert,

922
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: the guy who eventually gets Gloria onto the set, like,

923
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: he plays exactly like Sidney. He's got the same fancy moves. Yeah,

924
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: he's got the same unnecessary spins and behind the backs.

925
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: And they're all there together to begin with.

926
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: Shouldn't he have known? If you're a con man shouldn't

927
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: you have a little bit of a feeling there, like, Wow,

928
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: these guys play identically.

929
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: I wonder if they've ever played together. Here's a huge

930
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: giveaway too, if you're putting yourself in Billy's shoes, that

931
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: he should have picked up on that he was getting

932
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: hustled by Sidney and the whole crew when they're trying

933
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: to get the money together to what are they playing for?

934
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: Forget who? I forget which.

935
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Side of it is. I think it's the other team,

936
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: So not Sidney, did they like they don't they can't

937
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: even get to the money, And he's like, that's okay,

938
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: we'll play anyway.

939
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: Does that have a way that happens.

940
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Twice in the movie, Yeah, like where Sidney's character goes, no, no,

941
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm playing for for all of it. I'm playing for

942
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: I want more money. This doesn't make sense.

943
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then so like suddenly Sidney's like, Okay, that's cool.

944
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: You only have eleven hundred of the seventeen hundred play for.

945
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: We'll play for it. That's a huge tell Billy's part,

946
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: he would never do that. Yeah, So like what are

947
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: you doing? Because he's basically it reads to me like okay,

948
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: we'll put seventeen hundred in. I don't care you put

949
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: eleven hundred in. Obviously he's doing that because he's like, well,

950
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw the game right and I'm gonna get

951
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: a kickback on whatever this money anyway, So it's like,

952
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm not losing money. You've come on, Billy, just lost

953
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: sight of it. I guess, stop stretching so much.

954
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, Jitdy. You've had to

955
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: film Lee Ellis most recently playing Kendall Gill shooting around

956
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: with Kendallkill. You've had to film plenty of basketball scenes there.

957
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: What did they do wrong? What would you have done

958
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: in terms of just your your director of photography hat, Well, it's.

959
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: Hard to say, because Lee can shoot the ball.

960
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I also love that you've been hanging around

961
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: us so much that you now say shoot the basketball

962
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: instead of just saying shoot. It's just a basketball term

963
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: that's been entered into your brain. He can shoot the basketball,

964
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: shoot the ball. He can he can shoot so and

965
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: it's a little different. I like the way they shot

966
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: the first scene because it's handheld. It's fast paced. I mean,

967
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: I can't tell if it looks cool to me.

968
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: Like especially watching Woody Harrelson play like he can actually

969
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: seems to be able to dribble the ball right like

970
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: and handle themselves.

971
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: Got a funky looking jump shot. I will say that

972
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: a real two hands sort of push.

973
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: But if it's the white guy narrative, yeah, a weird shot, right.

974
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: Sure, But yeah, and it's I love that part of it.

975
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: I hated this slow mo and obviously it sounds like

976
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: Wesley Snipes can't really play basketball, so you have your

977
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 4: hands tied right like he's an athletic guide. But you

978
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: just have to, you know, edit and I guess shoot

979
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: everything in slow motion.

980
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: That's what they went with. That's why the movie was

981
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: two hours. Everything's in slow I.

982
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: Guess Denzel Washington was supposed to be Sidney Dean's character.

983
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, and Denzil can hoop was he got games

984
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: and he looks like an actual somewhat decent Hooper for

985
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: you know, for an actor, I think. But yeah, I

986
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: guess Wesley Snipes blew them away just with his like

987
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: the charisma, the trash and he is incredible that like

988
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: he is. I know, there is a lot of yelling,

989
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: but it's very funny.

990
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's The best thing about this movie

991
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: is the performances. They're all all believable, you know in

992
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: that movie Universe Anyway.

993
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were, you were talking tasks. I just thought

994
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: about this is in my random notes part here about

995
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: like the like the picks, right, all all the picks

996
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: being set, all the.

997
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 2: Screens being set, and how it just takes out everybody.

998
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: I so that's happening throughout the entire movie. Okay, we

999
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: get we get to the Coalition of American Corporation sponsoring

1000
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: the Brotherhood Tournament. What that or the hell that is?

1001
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: Okay?

1002
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: I I this is the hardest I laughed in the movie.

1003
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: The final game. The game's going on, there's a there's

1004
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: a pick set. There's a dude in the crowd that

1005
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: stands up and yells they're sutting illegal picks. Dude, have

1006
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: you been watching the games higher movie? That's all people do.

1007
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: They just like body check and grab and for some reason,

1008
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: now that we're in the final of the Brotherhood Tournament,

1009
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: this guy's had enough.

1010
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: You can't stand it. He wants that.

1011
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: Come on, I guess there are refs.

1012
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: Now in the tournament.

1013
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: That far killed.

1014
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: I wonder if that was an ad like a note

1015
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: that came from somebody up above or somebody who said,

1016
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: you know, this movie is full of illegal picks. You

1017
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: may want to maybe, Yeah, I know, But.

1018
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: That's why the picks thing is just weird in general,

1019
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: because there's street ball. Yeah, they're right, so much picking,

1020
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: backdoor cutting play d Dia.

1021
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: I love, I love some of the passes that we

1022
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: get so many No, look, just chuck it over my shoulder,

1023
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: throw it off the backboard at one point.

1024
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: Not a lot of fundamental play in this game. Another

1025
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: line I wrote down. I don't remember exactly when it happened.

1026
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: It must have been during the tournament somebody else. I

1027
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: got some bean pie for you won't see five thousand dollars,

1028
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: might see five thousand beans?

1029
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: What did you invent that? Life?

1030
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I definitely a trailer.

1031
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: See five thousand beads. I couldn't actually get the dispart

1032
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: of like your mama is an astronaut, to like the

1033
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: whole astronaut, she's out of this world, like so meaning like.

1034
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1035
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I was confused to confused, like where

1036
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: is the dispart of that? Yeah, that's a very accomplished,

1037
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: accomplished position my.

1038
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: Mom is an astronaut. Yeah, she worked very hard for

1039
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: that role.

1040
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: She was a groundbreaker.

1041
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: I guess she's a I mean case yeah.

1042
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1043
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: A book back the day called Snaps and it was

1044
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: just a book full of Mama jokes, just one hundred

1045
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: insults and it was a series of them.

1046
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: There was like seven of them.

1047
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: I don't remember any of these, yeah, just flipping through it.

1048
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, it's weird to see the influence

1049
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: that a movie like this had, Like Mama snapbooks came

1050
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: out after this. Cut off shirts like we're an actual thing,

1051
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: you know, like we've seen Jimmy Butler do it kind

1052
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: of recently. Like the bike shorts sticking out of your

1053
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: sweatpants was a thing. Things that I wish would come back.

1054
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: All the soft colors they're wearing, Like the purple that

1055
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 3: they're wearing in the tournament is not like a vivid

1056
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: purple at all. It's like it's been washed a million times.

1057
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: Billy's playing in a pair of pink shorts. I've only

1058
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: ever seen that guy Hunt show up wearing pink shorts

1059
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: when we.

1060
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: Play, but I would be cool with that. Also, guys

1061
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: wearing jerseys of NBA players for pickup basketball. There's an

1062
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: MJ jersey, there's a magic there's a Jamal Wilkes. At

1063
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: one point, you don't see that a lot these days.

1064
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: There was a guy in Toronto that used to show

1065
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: up like in an Arizona jersey, like a college jersey.

1066
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: But that's the last guy I can remember showing up

1067
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: regularly in a basketball You're right.

1068
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to come back.

1069
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: You're right.

1070
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: It's it's weird that we don't do more of it.

1071
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: And and also actual T shirts, like everything now is

1072
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: like you know, like a dry fit or something like that.

1073
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: These are just heavy cotton T shirts.

1074
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: Like yeah, no, you're right.

1075
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: There was a part that drove me nuts too, when

1076
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: at one point it's Billy and Sidney. I forget which

1077
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: game it is, but they say, all right to tens

1078
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: by one. You make it, you take it. Billy hits

1079
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: a shot and they immediately give them the ball.

1080
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: What rules?

1081
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: What are we running here?

1082
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: What rules are we playing by?

1083
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: And then it flips back to it appears to be

1084
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: if you make it, you take it, so you score,

1085
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: you keep the ball. I mean that's fine. That part

1086
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: makes sense. You want to play the tens. It also

1087
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: makes sense, but I swear to God, like right away,

1088
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: Billy hits a shot, they score, and then they give

1089
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: They're like all right, they check it to them, They're like,

1090
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: all right, your turn. It's like you just said make

1091
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: it or take it?

1092
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?

1093
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? I'm gonna throw something at

1094
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: you that might blow your mind for a second.

1095
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: I had seen this movie once or twice.

1096
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: Obviously saw it in the nineties, and I saw it,

1097
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure at some point later, probably on.

1098
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Television, so it was edited without the sex scenes. Man

1099
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 2: oh man, Rosie Perez pretty steaming, very steaming.

1100
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: I had forgotten about that.

1101
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: I think that must be edited out of the television version.

1102
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, I was like, at the start of this movie,

1103
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: is like, whoa is this all a dream? The second

1104
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: or third scene of this movie, basically the first scene

1105
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: he's Billy shows up in la He sees the Venice

1106
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: Beach boys, he sees the acapelt like guys doing I'd

1107
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: love to hear task do a little bass, and then

1108
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: he goes to the park. I guess it's supposed to

1109
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: be like six in the morning some of the morning.

1110
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: He puts the ball beyond his head and fall asleep.

1111
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, is this just all a dream?

1112
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: It makes it makes a lot of sense.

1113
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: It's like, why would everything look so magical when it's happening.

1114
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: Why would there be a do wop group the beach?

1115
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: Unfortunately true, but you're right, like the soft colors, you know,

1116
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: just just the weird surreal part where Gloria is on

1117
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Jeopardy like that's a thing.

1118
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: Like I was like, damn, I.

1119
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: Mean it might be.

1120
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 4: It's a great theory because he legit.

1121
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: Falls asleep and then like it's cut to like you know,

1122
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: I think.

1123
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: It literally cuts to like.

1124
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Is under a rim and the ball is going in

1125
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: and it's like here we go, and then he gets

1126
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: in there, chump slash nerd gets in there.

1127
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: It's a good theory.

1128
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, just throwing it out there.

1129
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if the.

1130
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: He spent a lot of his time sleeping on courts

1131
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: or using a basketball as a pillow as a homeless man. Yeah,

1132
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess.

1133
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: I found that part weird. It's like, why are you

1134
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: there so early? Nobody's there because he's trying to find

1135
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: the court like the famous you know, Venice court. I

1136
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: love that there's not one scene of the giant dude

1137
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: working out in the guys of Muscle Beach or whatever.

1138
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's got the tiniest thought just doing

1139
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: some girls. That's how we're working out this summer.

1140
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 3: Again.

1141
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: That speaks to you either wearing no clothing in this movie.

1142
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 3: Or all the clothing in the world.

1143
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1144
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: All right, So, any any other scenes lines, things you

1145
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: want to talk about before.

1146
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: We get to you can tell that hip hop music

1147
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: hadn't taken over America because in this movie they're arguing

1148
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: about listening to Jimmy Hendrix.

1149
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, JD do you hear or do you listen

1150
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: to Jimmy Hendrix?

1151
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: Oh? I hear Jimmy Hendricks. Yeah, yeah, that was it

1152
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: was weird. I do like that, I guess, I like right,

1153
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, Yeah, I.

1154
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: Like that true.

1155
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: I mean like, there were certainly rap artists out in

1156
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: some big rap records, but I guess they're probably just

1157
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: not comfortable while having that be the huge artist that

1158
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: everybody's talking about in this movie. Jimmy Hendricks is somebody

1159
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: that've been around at that point for twenty years, right,

1160
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: twenty five years. I suppose so maybe a little easier

1161
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: for the white audiences to hear.

1162
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: I guess, well, then we get like the.

1163
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: That's an analogy that is definitely not the right word here.

1164
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: But Gloria brings up the fact that, yeah, Jimmy is

1165
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: a black guy, he's the lead, but his whole band

1166
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 3: is white. Here Yeah, because he starts with the drummer

1167
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: is white, and it's like, oh, hold it's old and

1168
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: you know there's that togetherness. Yeah, they're making amazing music.

1169
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: We can do the same on the basketball court.

1170
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm reaching here, but you know what I mean, I

1171
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: do like the billy is wearing later a Jimmy Hendrix

1172
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: T shirt, Like, okay, he's a real fan.

1173
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: That's some fake Jimmy Hendricks fan.

1174
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 4: And then you get it at Spencer's Gifts he went

1175
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: to a show of it kind of speaks to that

1176
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: Ron Shelton is probably an old white guy when heat this.

1177
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh.

1178
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 4: And the music is the soundtrack is pretty good. There's

1179
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 4: some James Brown, there is some hip hop.

1180
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's Cypress Hill. I was pleasantly surprised to the

1181
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: mother K Homeboy. That's that song when they're they're drying

1182
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: right before the dunk scene, the first the first dunk

1183
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: scene some real Cypress Hill and that I was pleasant.

1184
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: Totally forgot about that. That must have been right when

1185
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: the album came.

1186
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: Out to uh, you were talking to us about how

1187
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: woody his character. Billy's like so like d like he's

1188
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: like really turns on the I don't know, like he's

1189
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 2: a dummy, which he is, and he's playing it up

1190
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: to me. It's so it's very woody from cheers, right.

1191
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean he really at that point is basically that character,

1192
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: and it's like he's mastered that.

1193
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: He has literally mastered that character.

1194
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: He is like Draymond Green. His mouth is wide open

1195
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: when he's lying on the bed listening to Gloria explained

1196
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: that she didn't actually want a glass of water when

1197
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: she said she was thirsty. I want you to sympathize

1198
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: with me, understand what's going on with Yeah, she.

1199
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: Wanted a glass of vodka. She's got a drinking problem. Yeah,

1200
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: we don't really address it.

1201
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was addressed as soon as she

1202
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: walked out the door. It's like, oh, I don't have

1203
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: to drink anymore. I'm not I'm not with a two

1204
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 4: bit loser.

1205
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh you think Billy is driving her a little Oh.

1206
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, I drink too if I had to live

1207
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: with him.

1208
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: You know how they used to say, like when we

1209
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: were in high school or college when you're studying for

1210
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: things like hey, if you're going to smoke and study,

1211
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: then hey, you should be high when you take the test.

1212
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: Or you know, stuff like that.

1213
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: I was wondering, like, was she drunk when she was

1214
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: on Jeopardy because it seemed like she was always she

1215
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: had a bottle of vodka beside her every time she

1216
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: was studying. She probably should have been.

1217
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully she was.

1218
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: How they tell you to replicate your enviremight she.

1219
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: Was loose and limber, and she took him back pretty easily.

1220
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: My one line from a song, a very bad song

1221
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: sung by Woody There in the dressing room, the dressing

1222
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: room with two doors. One of them was locked and

1223
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: the other one was just open. Oh don't worry, there's

1224
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: another door right after everything, Like.

1225
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's a song, like he wrote, he

1226
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 2: wrote this song.

1227
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 4: He wrote this song and called back the thirsty line. Yeah,

1228
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 4: and then that just was that was enough?

1229
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 2: So did he do this all the time with Gloria?

1230
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 4: Like he did. At the end there he was sort

1231
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: of saying, this is different. Usually I just you know,

1232
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: singing a song and she'll come back, or I'll write

1233
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: a song, okay, all right.

1234
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: Usually I'll just write her. So he just writes it

1235
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: on the spot like it's not really it's like it's

1236
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: a bit of a stretch to even call it a song.

1237
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: You're just sort of saying things.

1238
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: But he can play well, you don't know. There was

1239
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: maybe three verses and a bridge in there. Yeah, she

1240
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 4: just cut them off.

1241
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: Any anything else before we put our reviews down.

1242
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: How do you feel when it's the last point of

1243
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: the game. It's nine to eight, Yeah, and the guy

1244
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: with the ball says point game instead of.

1245
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: That is weird?

1246
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: So weird point game?

1247
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what.

1248
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that'll catch on ever.

1249
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's weird too, because like a lot of

1250
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: the stuff obviously did catch on, But people I've said

1251
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: game point my whole life. I don't feel like I've

1252
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: ever heard anybody say point game. But it's every single

1253
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 3: scene in this movie.

1254
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: It's so strange.

1255
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have one more question I just thought

1256
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: of because we sort of like were dancing around the

1257
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: edges with it could a White Man Can't Jump remake

1258
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: succeed or even you know what, forget that a sequel

1259
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: thirty years later. Could we get Billy and Sidney back

1260
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: out there as the Duck and the King or whatever,

1261
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: like they're the legends the.

1262
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: Next generation? Like could something? Could there be something there?

1263
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: Would you be interested in watching it?

1264
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Me?

1265
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: Personally, I'm not interested in watching that movie. No, no,

1266
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: not a sequel. I am vaguely interested to see a remake, okay,

1267
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: just to see how they would do it differently. And

1268
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: I would want them to make it a long con movie.

1269
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: I wanted to just just go all in on the con.

1270
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: It happens around basketball. That's way more interesting to me.

1271
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: The friend, like I said before, the first half of

1272
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 4: this movie is so fun and interesting. Yeah, and then

1273
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: just just keep that going through the whole thing.

1274
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think, like, yeah, I'm just trying

1275
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: to think what the con would be together. I think

1276
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: the con powers together.

1277
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's the it's the next it's it's

1278
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: it's a con on a national level or a state level,

1279
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: as opposed to and and the and the whole thing

1280
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: of icon You yukon me now, we're conning together, Like

1281
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: that's interesting to me. But I'm never gonna see that movie,

1282
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: am I probably not?

1283
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: And this whole thing with like Blake Griffin's name being

1284
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: thrown around, who would he be?

1285
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: I know, because he couldn't be Woody right, like oh yeah,

1286
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: we'll uh oh oh heaven formid we gotta take the

1287
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: sixth eight Like that wouldn't work it all? Am I

1288
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: gonna take oh that Jack guy?

1289
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's like that's not gonna work at all.

1290
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1291
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1292
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: And maybe he just to be like Marquise Johnson tell you,

1293
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: but he's got to be like just like an awesome

1294
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: guy at the court that the hustler then could take

1295
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: him down.

1296
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what they're thinking.

1297
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: With that one.

1298
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: Pat commenton did a white man can't jump dunk this year?

1299
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1300
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: The dunk contests? So could they remake it instantly?

1301
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: They could?

1302
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah they could, And look like in ninety two it

1303
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: was cool, Like just the poster alone I remember was

1304
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: cool to me as a kid, like this looks awesome,

1305
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: and then you see the clips, you see the trailer.

1306
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: I made sure to watch the trailer before I watched

1307
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: this on the weekend and it's like this is just cool,

1308
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: like it's it's at the time, especially it was like awesome,

1309
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: especially like the street ball culture and all that, like

1310
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: kicking off and obviously the fashion heavy, you know, heavy

1311
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: dose of that. So yeah, they could, they could, I

1312
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: think do it again. It'd be a lot different. It

1313
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: have to be more of like it'd be higher stakes, right,

1314
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: like the tournaments and stuff like that.

1315
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it work.

1316
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it would just just street ball. I don't know,

1317
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah I could. Would they make just a movie about

1318
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: street ball?

1319
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1320
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't that doesn't seem realistic quite to me, And

1321
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1322
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1323
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1324
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: It's hard to say.

1325
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine this movie existing in twenty twenty

1326
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: coming out now, but you can just see the influence

1327
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 3: that had back in the day. Like the second Mighty

1328
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: Ducks movie had a street hockey basically because this street

1329
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: basketball movie existed, They're like, oh, we gotta do something

1330
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, you know how all the teens in

1331
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: south central LA are always playing roller hockey together down

1332
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: at the.

1333
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: Out of the courts. Maybe we need a Maybe we

1334
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: can get a prequel to A White Man Can't Chop,

1335
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: Because here's something we could explore. Gloria Rosie Perez. When

1336
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: she goes on Jeopardy, it says she was She's introduced

1337
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: as a former disco queen, just like out of nowhere, retired.

1338
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: It's like, let's get that story. Maybe then how she

1339
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: falls in love with Billy.

1340
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of random stuff, like when would he

1341
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: get to the first court and he sees the Duop guys.

1342
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: He gives them a dollar and they're like a dollar

1343
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: and he goes or he doesn't. He doesn't really say

1344
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: anything either. Were like, okay, let's give him a dollar's worth.

1345
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I love this stuff. My daddy was

1346
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: a preacher, Like what yeah they say in your church.

1347
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really get it.

1348
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then the uh Sydney at the end of

1349
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: the movie, he gives them like a twenty yeah, and

1350
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: even Billy goes like, what are you doing? And then

1351
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: he's got to take somebody's got to take care of

1352
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: the brothers or something like that. He gets up on

1353
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: something and says that, and you're like, all right, they

1354
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: really bookend these guys. The Venice Beach boys into this.

1355
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: They're the true stars of the movie.

1356
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: They really are. I wonder if they got a game.

1357
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: There's a sequel the Venice Speech Boys. Have they had

1358
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: a long career or what's going on with the Betta.

1359
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1360
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: They must be a real I don't think.

1361
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: So that's made up to That's amazing to me.

1362
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: I felt so real to me because I did also

1363
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: read Shelton, and it goes back to what you guys saying,

1364
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: like trying to sort of pigeonhole in the hole? Can

1365
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: the white guy dunk? He apparently came up with the

1366
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: name of the movie before then writing the movie, Yeah,

1367
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: white Man can't Jump, comes up with it, and he's like, yeah,

1368
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: maybe there's something there, and then writes.

1369
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: The movie Sure sounds like a very the starter thing

1370
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: to do.

1371
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: With the segment.

1372
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll figure it.

1373
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong, you're not wrong.

1374
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think is right.

1375
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: Well, well, okay, so it looks to me like all

1376
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: of the all of the Venice Beach Boys were singers

1377
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: as a career outside of the movie, but they brought

1378
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: them all together and then called the book and the movie.

1379
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's what it looks like. Okay, well, I'm

1380
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: not angry with that.

1381
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm not angry with that at all.

1382
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Bill Henderson, Sonny Craver and John Hendrix.

1383
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: I just want to know who's the bass guy playing

1384
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: like the big question with his.

1385
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: With his mouth.

1386
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: They sounds very nice though.

1387
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: I do like those guys.

1388
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's grate it, let's review it. And

1389
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: we've got an open ended system. You can go, you

1390
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: can you can grate it out of five, ten, thirteen,

1391
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: whatever you want, and you can whatever your particular. We

1392
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: don't have to do thumbs, we don't have to do stars.

1393
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: You can get creative here. Who wants to go first?

1394
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: What do you want to give this?

1395
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: Jeddy? Go ahead?

1396
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: All right?

1397
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: Well, over the weekend, I guess we on the drop

1398
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 4: our last podcast, No, when do we do our Bibbleheads?

1399
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 4: We talked about what that was. That was Friday, Yeah, dropped,

1400
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: So we described our bibbleheads, and of course Stephen Basilev

1401
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: one of our beloved listeners. He is a designer and

1402
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 4: he created the Bibbleheads and they're great. They're great, and

1403
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: I love mine, even though we forgot the roller skates,

1404
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: but then he added the roller skates. So my rating

1405
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: scale is five JD. Bobbleheads, that's the best. One is

1406
01:03:54,600 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 4: the worst. I'm giving this two JD. Oh wow, just

1407
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,479
Speaker 4: too So you didn't really like the movies. I didn't

1408
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: really like it, to be honest, I, like I said

1409
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 4: many times, I like the first half of the movie.

1410
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 4: I lost it it. It just went completely off the

1411
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: rails for me. I like the theme. There was one

1412
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 4: theme that I really liked, which is everybody's a hustler. Right,

1413
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: So you've got the main characters obviously, plus Gloria. Her

1414
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 4: hustle is to get on Jeopardy, yep, and just to

1415
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 4: and then to become an actor, and that's her hustle.

1416
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 4: Right then the dudes who are chasing him, the mob guys,

1417
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: turns out they're just just two bit hustlers as well,

1418
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 4: and they're like they're they're playing a con game with

1419
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: these supposed dead bodies, you know, polaroids. So I like that,

1420
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: and like I said a number of times, I like

1421
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: the con the con aspect of it, so I would

1422
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: like to see more of that. But it just wasn't

1423
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: that entertaining. And the climax you lose a bobblehead just

1424
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: for that that that scene is garbage. So two out

1425
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: of five j D bubbleheads for white men can't jump Trey.

1426
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give this five foods that start with Q

1427
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: out of seven. Okay, seven, do you have the foods?

1428
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 3: I think they only mentioned four foods that start with

1429
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: Q in this Keisha's quail quail the fruit okay, a

1430
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: quah hog or whatever she said, never.

1431
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: Heard of that one before?

1432
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fruit.

1433
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: It almost sounds like a kish.

1434
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: Quints quints yeah, yeah, yeah.

1435
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: But they don't mention other ones. A couple more Yeah,

1436
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 2: what other casada? Oh that's a surprise. Que totally queen

1437
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: wa good one. Yeah, similar to a caso? Do you

1438
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: count that?

1439
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

1440
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: This is this one is even more of a stretch.

1441
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: I would say quarter pounder.

1442
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: That's a stretch.

1443
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: But I like it.

1444
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so five out of seven, So you liked it.

1445
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: I like it.

1446
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: Uh, it's hard to It's hard to judge it without

1447
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: the nostalgia factor of factoring in. And I'm like, man,

1448
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start wearing bike shorts this summer, like for sure,

1449
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm playing basketball and a cutoff T shirt this summer

1450
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: and a pair of Patagonia baggies like I'm better look ridiculous.

1451
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: But I think I like the movie. I like it

1452
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: in general. It's a little too long for me. I

1453
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: wish they would have cut it out after the end

1454
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 3: of the jeopardy scene, but like, the high parts are

1455
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: so good. Yeah, like the first twenty minutes of the movie.

1456
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I would rewatch.

1457
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: That part over and over and over.

1458
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, come down, take a nap, and then

1459
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: the first hustle and the shooting contest. Basically, I think

1460
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: that part is awesome. For a basketball movie, it's really good,

1461
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: and for a just movie. Good.

1462
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go next. I would like to give this

1463
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: two Venice Beach Boys out of three. I'll let you

1464
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: decide which too. I obviously like it. I think I'm

1465
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: not gonna echo all the things you guys are saying

1466
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: about it. I really really loved the first hour, and

1467
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: it got worse as the movie went on, not only

1468
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: the basketball scenes but the story, and it just got

1469
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 2: a little crazy. I am going to really lean into

1470
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: my concept that this is all a dream. I don't

1471
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: know if that makes it ten times worse or ten

1472
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: times better. But there was one part where Gloria says,

1473
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: and I like this. She says, sometimes when you win,

1474
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: you really lose, and then she said a lot more

1475
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: after that. But I like that part because it does

1476
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: work because Billy, I mean, he does win, they win

1477
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 2: the tournament, but he lost her because he made that

1478
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: decision to go into And I was like, okay, there's

1479
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, And I shout out

1480
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: to Nora for that one. She really picked up on

1481
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: that quote coming back into play. So two out of

1482
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: three Venice Beach Boys for me, Tassy.

1483
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm giving it four Woodies out of five Woodies. That's

1484
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Woodies. But or the bulge and Lee's

1485
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: that's up for interpretation, you know, nostalgia, it's too it's

1486
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: it plays a huge part. It definitely plays a huge part.

1487
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm definitely, you know, giving it a bit of a

1488
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: bit of leeway here because it's adjusted for inflation, the

1489
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: fact that it's thirty years old here, it's a very

1490
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: very long time ago. And yeah, the messages, you know,

1491
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 1: Skeetze touched on sometimes when you when you lose, sometimes

1492
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: when you lose your tie, Gloria very deep. The other one,

1493
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: the other message is listen to the woman something we

1494
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: could all do a pack of a lot more of

1495
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: Nora picked up on this. That's right, totally right. So

1496
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: messages are great. Yes, yes, it's not a great through line,

1497
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: but I'm okay with that. Give me four woodies out

1498
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: of five woodies for tonight's game. That's high. It's high.

1499
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean the gut says three. But you know, as

1500
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: we get into more and more of these movies here,

1501
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll do it at least a couple more

1502
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: basketball movies. Who knows what this break. We may have

1503
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: to get deep into the basketball can in here, but

1504
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be ranking towards the top.

1505
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: So you know, it's graded on a bit of a curve,

1506
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, and in the

1507
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: basketball world of movies.

1508
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, and I would add to it. It

1509
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 2: feels like to me, and it's not the case with

1510
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: some other basketball movies, and maybe we'll get to them.

1511
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: I only want to watch this movie once every twenty years,

1512
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 2: and I'll enjoy it. But I would not want to

1513
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: watch this movie, you know, like next month. They're like no, no, no, no,

1514
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: too too long. It's very I'm not I don't need

1515
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 2: to do that, you know, once once every couple of decades. Perfect,

1516
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: because I was enjoying it, I'd forgotten a lot of things.

1517
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot that little twist, picked up on

1518
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: some things I probably didn't when I was, you know,

1519
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen years old watching it. So yeah, that uh,

1520
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 2: not bad not bad scores overall. And you said task like,

1521
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna do some other basketball movies. That's the real question.

1522
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: Next with film session, what's gonna be the next movie?

1523
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: If you have a suggestion, holler at us. I think

1524
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: the easiest way is to tweet at us at No

1525
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: dunk Sinc. For the next basketball movie. Do you have

1526
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 2: one in mind that you'd like to tackle?

1527
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's Get Away from the White Men. Let's Hoosiers was

1528
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: on top one of mine, on top of about this,

1529
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: but too many, too much weight?

1530
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also I'm not a fan of Hoosiers. But

1531
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: maybe that will make for a good podcast.

1532
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: You got to be in the right mood.

1533
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 3: Okay, is there something else?

1534
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: I mean throw Let's throw some out there so people

1535
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: can Maybe we should maybe put a poll up pick

1536
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: four and sure eventually get a pull up on our

1537
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: Twitter account. What basketball movie you want us to see

1538
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: or us for to break down next.

1539
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: I love this basketball will always be there.

1540
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 4: Yep, I did watch semi Pro over the weekend.

1541
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, you just decided to watch it just now?

1542
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: It's on it It's on Netflix, and uh we were

1543
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 4: looking for some to watch and uh.

1544
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: Okay, well we're not. You liked white Man can't jump better?

1545
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, okay, too close to call okay, love.

1546
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 2: In basketball semi Pro. I mean there's always Hoosiers. I

1547
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: mean there's there is above the rim, there's a sunset park.

1548
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: Should we go current Thunderstruck? No, no, whatever ben Affleck

1549
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: movie is called.

1550
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, we can't go to the theater.

1551
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's a fair point.

1552
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to watch this at home self quarantine.

1553
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get a pull up. But again, if

1554
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: you have suggestions, as there's one you really want to

1555
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: hear us breakdown, let us know. As they said off

1556
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: the top of this podcast, we will be beach stepping

1557
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: later this week, so email us no dunks at the

1558
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: Athletic dot Com. We're also going to be working on

1559
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: a new episode of Squad to drop later this week.

1560
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: We'll have some fun with that one. We do have

1561
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 2: plans to finally start a no Dunks slash Survivor podcast.

1562
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: Now is the time to get in. That's the plan.

1563
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: We're throwing it around right now. Later this week that

1564
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: we'll be doing our first ever Survivor recap podcast. So

1565
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: if you want to watch Survivor with us and hear

1566
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: us talk about it, by all means, watch the episode

1567
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: of Perfect Time. It's the perfect time. Look, why wouldn't

1568
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: why wouldn't we do it? Thirty minutes, forty minutes whatever

1569
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: it is and throw it up. You want to listen

1570
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: to it, download and listen to it. Tell your other

1571
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: Survivor friends. If you don't, hey, it's all good.

1572
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: It's all good.

1573
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: And we got many other ideas and the other podcast ideas.

1574
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 2: We're gonna try and try and keep you guys entertained

1575
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: here as hopefully most of you are at your house

1576
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: and self quarantining. So that's the plan, rough plan, but

1577
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: the podcasting theory will keep coming. You heard it here first,

1578
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

1579
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember sometimes when you win,

1580
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win.

1581
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you win or lose you actually tie,

1582
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes when you tie, you actually win, or lose

1583
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: when you're losing. Is all one organic mechanism from which

1584
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: one extracts what one needs.

1585
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: Embrace the day people.

1586
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: You could stay.

1587
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 5: Every day, that happy every man. It's been so long

1588
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 5: that your fun it's happened already. It's gonna be grevy