WEBVTT - Double Trouble: Jose and Ozzie Canseco 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.920 Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey Zarin, 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:06.240 fancy meeting you here? Hey, what are you doing here, 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.960 Elizabeth Done? I just came to talk about ridiculous stuff. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.680 Oh you're in luck. I've got something ridiculous. I've been 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.360 waiting to tell somebody. Oh, okay, hit me, you're ready. Okay. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.560 So in Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan, you say your dog suffers 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.120 from self esteem issues related to his or her you know, 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:28.120 dog pattern baldness. You can buy a dog to pay. Yeah, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.920 they're sold in toy machines, just like those little gumball machines. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.720 So if you're like out and about now Blue, put 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.360 some pep in his step step. I'm not trying to 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.640 be like gender about this. Oh my good wait, So 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.199 do dog dogs don't have baldness? Oh yeah, they actually do. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.519 I mean they have made not like male pattern baldness 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.920 where they go like, you know, but just a fun 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.200 little Yeah, they just want to have a fun little time. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.080 Maybe they recently had a surgery and they're just like 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.600 feeling a little self conscious about it, or maybe they 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.080 just like, you know, they never really liked being a blonde. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.480 That's true, you know, let's switch it up. Yeah, just 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:04.520 like ridiculous. Yeah. Sorry, do you want to know what 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:09.679 else is ridiculous? I love ridiculous when major League Baseball 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.679 players fighting random dudes while dresses vampires. Did you say 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:38.640 twin major League Baseball player dresses vampires. I'm there, I'm 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.800 Elizabeth Dutton. He's Saron Burnett, and this is Ridiculous Crime, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.880 a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:53.840 It's always murder free and one ridiculous. Saren Elizabeth. I 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.160 brought a friend here today to help me tell this 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.040 episode story. Oh thank god, I thought I was hallucinating. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.440 He's not just my friend, he's my brother, Travis Dutton. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.080 For those who are not in the know, he wrote 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.440 and played the theme song Ridiculous Crime, and some of 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.600 our listeners may remember that he also told a classmate 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.080 in elementary school that John bon Jovi was our uncle 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:20.720 and he is not man. So thanks for coming over 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.760 here to Ridiculous Crime headquarters today, Travis, how you doing? 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.280 Thank you for having me excited to be It's good 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.079 to be at the headquarters. Thank you. This is our 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.400 first guest. Yeah, we have parking validation. We can ask 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:36.799 you about that one of the dogs. Yeah. Another thing 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.639 to know about traviy Um and me, but more him, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.919 is that he's a serious Oakland A's baseball fan. This 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.880 is true. Yeah, when we were growing up, we had 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.200 season tickets and you were at the infamous World Series 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:54.280 game against the San Francisco Giants on October seventeenth. Loma 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.440 Prieta earthquake hit right before the game five oh four. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.880 What was that, like, Travis, tell us what that was? Like? 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.720 You know what, the thing that really sticks out about 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.560 that is that, you know, like you said, it happened 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.280 right before the game was supposed to start, and it 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.080 was the A's versus the Giants Baybridge Series that you 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.280 could feel it in the air, and when the earthquake happened, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:21.040 everyone in the stadium started cheering and and they didn't 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.320 realize how bad the situation was. And this is pre 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.840 cell phone pre so people were just so stoked about, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.560 you know, this big World Series, and it kindly it 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.360 started to set in like, oh wait, there's some buildings 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.200 on fire in the district. So people just thought that 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.040 everyone was like big game, Like it was just crazy. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:48.680 And then exactly, yeah, you could see it almost looked 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.200 like water kind of on the field. Yeah, yeah, nobody. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:57.640 Everyone thought it was like awesome, that's crazy, that's crazy. Um. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.000 Who was your favorite as player in that time? Jose Canseco, 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:06.960 hands down. So that's actually why we're here today, jose Canseco. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.120 Let's do some background on on your man Jose for 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:15.119 a second, Sar. And you're familiar with him, right, mr guy. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.279 He was the guy in the Bay for being like 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.919 combination of power and speed. Yes, yeah, so he played 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.800 right field for the A's from eighty five to ninety two. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:28.400 Amazing player. He was named American League MVP, as you said, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.760 because he was the first player to hit forty home 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.559 runs and steal forty basses in the same season. Club baby, 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.560 not the not to be confused with Jay Z's nightclub Club. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.880 Is that what he named it after? Let's say he did. Um, Now, 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.280 don't forget we also had Ricky Henderson on that team. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.120 He was my favorite, yeah, Ricky. Uh, Stolen bases were 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.840 a thing in those late eighties seasons. Um, it's an 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:59.200 exciting team, exciting time and uh, so many great players. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.080 Who else did you like? Oh, there's Dave Henderson, there 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:08.760 was Walt Weiss. You had start. You had Dennis Ecker 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:14.000 my favorite team. Yeah, and you know, Jose was one 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.480 of the Bash Brothers. He he and his teammate Mark McGuire. Um. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.720 They were known as the Bash Brothers. For more information 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.479 on this, please watch the riveting nineteen documentary film called 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.680 The Unauthorized Bash Brothers Experience. Put it on my list, yeah, 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.400 I promise you. Um. Can I just say that when 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.159 I saw that my soul briefly left my body, it 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.880 was just too much and too perfect. Um. So they 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.760 called themselves a Bash Brothers because Jose Canseco and Mark 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.240 McGuire used to get all juiced up and hit home 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.719 runs and then they bumped their forearms together in the 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.400 shape of an X when they trotted across o home plate, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.920 and they called it the Monster Bash. Really I didn't know, though, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:56.160 Monster Bash. Everyone starts copying it, right, so like now 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:02.000 you see kids, do I mean it's the monster ha ha? See. Okay, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.680 So the a starts selling shirts and banners that say 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.440 let's bash, and then the marketing department for the A's 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.040 worked with Channel thirty six, which is like a local 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.599 UHF station. Um, they did a song in a music 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.919 video to the tune of Monster Match. Yes see, I 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.240 think like a marketing exac you do is you're right there, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.000 You're one step ahead. So the video would play on 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.600 the Colisseum Diamond Vision screen. I'm going to put the 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.080 video up on our Instagram. I found it. Um. It 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.560 was awesome at the time, but like a lot of 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.760 things that seemed cool in the late eighties early nineties, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.600 it reads a little corny now, just a little smidge, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:46.040 but pretty cool feeling it. The video is funny because 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.960 the fashions have sort of come back around, so there's 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.640 like high waisted mom pants and like the haircuts and stuff, 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.919 so it looks like it could be someone trying to 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.080 be metro ironic now really good at it. It's Muyo 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.080 Tintoko so good. The A's went to the World Series 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:10.160 three straight years travels from shaking your head, man, It's 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.560 just if you've loved and lost like I have, you'd 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.200 understand how painful it is to bring all this stuff up. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:23.280 But yeah, eight um, you got the Kirk Gibson I knew. Yeah, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.600 that's the that's the thing that l hirsh eys Er 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.880 Kirk Gibson team. That was a tough year for y'all. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:30.760 And then the arm pump. Yeah, the arm pump. Run 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.680 around the basis the old k veterans. Okay, we're gonna 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.800 be okay. Trapping would make it okay. Um he uh. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.760 Jose though, let's get back to Jose. Let's think about good. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:46.400 Yeah cool. If you weren't around at that time, you don't. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.160 You have to understand that Jose Canseco wasn't just a 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.679 big baseball star, and he was incredible. He was larger 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.480 than life. He was a cultural presence, if you will. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.480 For a ten year old, he was like a Hulk 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:02.000 Hogan type, just like wow, like just huge everything. Yeah, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.560 outsized and flashy. It was. It was rumored that he 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.440 was dating Madonna, remember, but I don't think that was 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.680 actually true. I thought they did. I don't know. He 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.280 claims that she wanted to She told him she wanted 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:20.880 to have Cuban babies with him. Cuban, Yeah, that's She's like. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.920 He's like, I'm Puerto Rican. She's like, I know you're 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.480 from Puerto Rico, but you and me Cuban babies. Let's 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:30.440 do this. I don't know how it's good for um. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.800 I have a lab He drove crazy sports cars. He 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.880 had like mustangs and corvettes. Yeah, total corvette kind of guy. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.040 You played, You played little league, and in order to 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:48.640 hone your skills, our mom sent you to Jose Cansaco 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:53.960 baseball camp at a local community college. Big shout out 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:59.280 to Diablo Valley College. Tell us about Jose Cansaco baseball camp. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.840 What do you remember? It was very hot because it 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.480 was out in the suburbs of the Bay Area, so 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.480 I wasn't used to that. Um, it was a normal 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:13.040 style baseball camp. Um, you know, running drills and all 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.120 that kind of stuff. And basically, in my mind, I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.440 thought Jose and Seco was going to be teaching you, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.360 thinking me the ins and outs of baseball on a day, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.559 day to day basis. But he showed up one afternoon 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.960 and did batting practice with an aluminum baseball bat and 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:35.400 just rocked baseballs out of this community college. And everyone's 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.640 just like whoa, you know, like, because an aluminium bat 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.640 for a major league baseball player is like it's it 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.400 was insane. So basically in my like, so, yeah, he 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.720 wasn't there every day. Did anyone else show up from 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.640 the team, Yeah, Walt Weiss was with him. Was he 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:58.120 the every day with you guys. It was very intimate, No, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.720 but that was it they should like now thinking back, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.720 he probably the Kose probably learned about this the morning 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.400 of Like his manager was probably like getting the vet. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.079 You're going down to the community college. You gotta do 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.719 this batting practice for a bunch of kids. I think 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.080 there might have been a little speech, you know, like hey, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.120 stay in school, keep your eye on the ball, and 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.319 don't do drugs. And he's got like a hanging out 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.480 of this. Yeah, and I got I got his autograph 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.600 on a baseball, but it was with a red pen 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.520 so you could barely see it. And I ended up 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.920 losing because I actually used it to play baseball, just 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.600 signed Jose in my twenties. Yeah, it was a weird time. Yeah, 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.679 so it's probably somewhere, you know, some back lot kicking around. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.640 So here's this like he Jose Canseco god like baseball 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:57.000 hero for you, helps the A's win the eight nine series. Sure, um, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.439 a couple of months after that eighty nine series, he 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.600 got a rested for illegal possession of a handgun, pled 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.880 guilty to a misdemeanor, got three years unsupervised probation. So 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.640 he's a baseball hero and a little bit of an outlaw, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.360 a little bit of a bad boy, bad boy for life. Um. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.080 He also has a brother, just like I do, but 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.240 he has a twin brother. We're not twins, but he 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:23.920 has a twin brother named Azzi. And they were born 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.760 on July two, n sixty four in Havana, Cuba, And 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.440 so their parents brought them to the US the next 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.199 year and they grew up in Miami. So Azzi played 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.840 professional baseball too, and um, Jose is like a little 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.640 bit taller, but they're pretty much like, yeah, exactly. Um, 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.120 he played professional baseball, not at the level of Jose, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:51.160 but he did play for the A's. He played for 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.600 the A's when a professional ball, which is big. That's 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.400 a big thing. I've never done that. So he was 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.600 on the A's when Jose was on the a And Um, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.599 he struggled to match up to his siblings skills. We 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.160 mostly played together in spring training. Yeah, and then he 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.040 bounced around Japan for a little bit, played there, and 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.680 then came back and played on various minor league teams. Um, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.960 so you got these two guys, twin brothers, skilled athletes, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.720 a little wild, a couple of handsome Cubans out there 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.960 taking the world by storm. Let's take a quick break. Um. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.840 I want you to, guys to loosen up, stretch, you know, 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.360 run some drills. When we come back, I'm gonna tell 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.960 you about an absolutely epic night that Jose Canseco and 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:41.200 his brother Ozzi had in Miami. Ben Veneto Amami. Where 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:46.840 their crimes, yes, where their costumes also? Yes? Interested take 0:12:46.840 --> 0:13:10.560 a lap? Okay, Fellas. So right now it's me Zaren, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.320 producer Dave and none other than my brother Travis, and 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:18.560 we're here to talk Conseco, talking Conseco, Fellas. I want 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:23.559 you to close your eyes and picture. Its Halloween Night 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:29.600 two thousand one the Opium Garden nightclub in Miami's South Beach. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.839 It's a place to see and be seen. Total a 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:37.640 list joint, Miami's hottest nightclub. It's got everything. It's got 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:44.240 Madori Sours, Legionnaire's disease, twin vampires, Jose Conseco, who at 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.960 this point is a free agent, and Azzie they like 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:53.320 strut into the club and they're wearing costumes. What costumes 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:58.840 do you think they're wearing? Baseball players and Roger Rabbit. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.240 It's a horse costume the two part of horse in 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:07.000 the back. Um, they were dressed as leather clad vampires. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.840 It was very kind of and Rice Yeah, okay, el 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:17.000 stat instead of listep Jose's date, Amber Glick, She's dressed 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:21.120 as a Native American. It's a dicey well, I'm guessing this. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.080 He comes with feathers this out. Oh yeah, u p 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.480 I reported that the costume was made of quote, feathers 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.560 and a bikini. It was a different time. It was 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.000 dress a bikini. That's her costume. That's her costume. I 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:41.320 don't know what was adorning the bikini costume. Dumb, dumb, offensive, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.200 defensive and dumb. So there, so is this this nightclub 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.880 and it's apparently like this Asian themed nightclub, which again 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:55.120 we're just wading through problematic waters here completely um knee 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.000 deep at this point. But it's Halloween Night two thousand one, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:04.520 so we're two months out from nine eleven. Ever, in 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.120 a mood, they want to cover this summer of the shark, right, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:12.080 everyone was cared about sharks. Oh yeah, that was big 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.680 shark attacks and then little do we know, the eleven happened. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.720 There we go, Now, then Halloween Night happened for the 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.360 Conseco Boys. So there are some obviously other people at 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.960 the party. Two of them where Christian Presley, who is 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.520 un or was an oncology drug researcher. I don't know 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.600 what he does now, can we know him? He's an 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.440 oncology drug at the time, he's like a number two 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:42.480 oncology drug researcher. He's a random clo. And then he's 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.120 there with his buddy Alan Cheeks, which I'm not making 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.280 like that sounds like something I called someone who's like 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.280 Alan Chico. No, Alan Cheeks. He's a scientist. So we 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.680 got science guys. Dr Cheeks if you're after Um, they're 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.920 visiting Miami for a conference and they just want to 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.240 get a little loose. Yeah, just get a taste in 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.920 the nightlife. Exactly Old Presley and Sweet Cheeks out on 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:09.200 the town. You know, Amber Glick Jose's date. She's walking 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.400 through the crowded club when, according to the Conseco Brothers, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.600 Presley lifted up her skirt. So I guess she had 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.800 like a kind of like fancy skirt. And I'm thinking 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.960 by skirt they just mean a very wide belt, Like 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.000 I don't think I don't think it's like it's like 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.080 a Mennonite ankle length skirt. Um he lifts up her 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.600 skirt and grabs her crotch in her butt. Apparently it 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.320 was a long reach. He just went for a scoop 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.040 and jose was in the room. Was in the room. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.720 All right, Well let's see what happens, right, So okay 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.280 with them right there? So there she's walking through Presley. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.840 Now he says, I only touched a feather on her skirt, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.640 not her body. So he's just like tickling the feathers 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.160 as they walked by. Either way, I'm a featherfici, not 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.760 a what glick gets upset when this happens and she 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.600 runs to the bathroom. So I'm feeling like you wouldn't 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.520 run to the bathroom if someone just touched a feather 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.520 on your skirt. She said later she didn't see who 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.640 did it, but Aussie and Josie did. She also said 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.200 that her costume was homemade and that they're the only 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.800 feathers were on the headdress and that the skirt was 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:25.280 made of fur. She was wearing her for a bikini 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:31.240 guy and a head dress. Yeah, and uh, like a 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:36.760 woman who's also been how how much do you want 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.240 to bet she had like striped face paint to like 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.600 on her, like the whole nine. She's like, if I'm 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.359 going to be offensive, I'm just gonna go all in 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.200 going for it. So she's got this cause she says 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:48.920 he couldn't know, he couldn't have touched a feather because 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.480 no feathers on my skirt. Buddy, case closed. So, um, 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.879 you know, prosecution rests right there. Um, Pressley is standing 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.119 there just being a d bag, and so can the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.200 vibes he's vibing on. When suddenly a six ft four 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:10.200 pound vampire wearing a sleeveless shirt and a black leather 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:16.560 vest rolls up to him. That vampire Josie Kin sakes right, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.960 I don't want to imagine this big meat castle just 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.000 bounding down on you. So there was this lawsuit later 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:30.639 and it stread and coming at you like sunburned and 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:38.440 you can see veinsds. So this lawsuit later there was 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:43.280 a statement quote without any provocation, Jose attacked Presley, shoving 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.520 him against a call um, lifting him up by the 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.760 throat and choking him. Jose punched Presley several times before 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.200 proceeding to punch cheeks. A bouncer tried to stop the attack, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.320 but Jose can say, continued, I got this one really 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:01.000 busy right now fighting two dudes. He then jumped in 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.560 and hit both Presley and Cheeks with an open fist. Now, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.399 what's an open fist? Is my question? To slap right, 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.040 Ozzy said he only hit Cheeks when he thought he 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.240 was threatening Jose with a broken beer bottle, So he 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.560 did it like self defense, fear for his own safety. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.200 But why the open fist? Well, Azz, he said it 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.320 was because of the fake fingernails he was wearing as 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.720 a vampire. He couldn't make a fist. Oh yeah, he's 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:36.000 a snap with long nails. He does have a point, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.720 but do you think they're probably just press on? So 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.080 if he started to claw with him, they go flying off. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.560 But he still wants to party. He still wants that. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.879 He doesn't want to mess up his costume commitment to 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.600 the night. Yeah, because he's anticipating that the final end, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.680 but the night will go on. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.280 win this fight. So uh he so Azz he can't 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.960 make a fist because of his nails. Jose denies hitting 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.440 Pressley at all. He said he only pushed him away 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.639 with an open hand to protect click bathroom to stop him. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.520 He walked into it repeatedly, and then Azzy, he says, 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:13.080 Ozzy did all the hitting. So it's the reverse of 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:17.359 what happened when they were in the bleak together. So 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.320 he throws his long nailed, long finger nailed brother under 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:26.360 the bus. Good job, Jose. According to Pressley, after the fight, 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.239 Jose yelled at him, you're lucky to be standing, right, 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.600 and that Presley was nine sure that he added after that, 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:45.480 you're lucky to be alive. What was doubt? Turkey? Can 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.080 we go back to the fight for a second. How 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.919 awesome that sounds that he picked the guy up from 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:58.600 his with his by the neck, put him against a type. Yeah, 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:04.720 and then while he's holding him up, proceeds to mr. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:15.640 So he's got one guy suspended and then it comes up. Yeah, 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.800 that's that's that's just cool. It's cool. It's a great visual. 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:24.000 Um Presley, he got a broken nose, which later required 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:28.960 surgery to help him breathe allegedly, and he got cuts 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.080 to his mouth, probably from the nails. Um, he got 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:36.280 a concussion, he sprained his neck, and then he also 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:41.960 said he quote suffered disgrace, humiliation, and shame, deep deep shame, 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.280 like psychological and physical shame, like the kind you need 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.440 like years of therapy for. That's what the insurance companies, 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.320 he said. I think I have looked. I can't find 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.639 what these two clowns were dressed as, because I like, 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.600 I need what are the dot does this? What does 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.800 a scientist dress up it on at a conference? Let's 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.960 imagine them dressed like those guys. One's dressed like uranus 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.919 and the other stress like some atomic structure for like caffeine. Okay, 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.960 I like that. I like the Will Ferrell Christan pickup guys. 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:23.399 I think, yeah, okay, couples costumes for sure, they're imagining 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.840 we're going as half a kiss. Yeah, But the thing 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.880 is there at a conference, did they pack costumes knowing 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:31.960 they'd be there for Halloween and they'd want to go out. 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:39.200 They just want on our heads and crazy guys. The 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.320 thing is, we don't know, so we get to invent it. 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.720 That's what I like. So I'm gonna just imagine they 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:48.040 took all the conference swag of like lanyards and stress balls, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.639 and they're like, I'm a mad scientist. Yeah, all right, 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.879 let's go with that. So I'm Lea Coca's worst nightmare. 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.560 So Jose and Nazi they get arrested in all this 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.560 and they're held in Miami Dade County jail. Jose says, 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.640 I know that my brother and myself were definitely victims, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.240 and the girl I was with got sexually assaulted. We 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.680 got attacked. We are the victims here. We just defended ourselves. 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.359 Does have a point? November two thousand two, so like 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:25.240 a year later, the brothers plead guilty. Well, Auzzie pleads 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:29.560 to felony and misdemean battery and Jose pleads to one 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.919 count of felony aggravated battery in two counts of misdemeanor battery. 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.520 M Jose he gets sentenced to three years of probation, 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.440 two d and fifty hours of community service and anger 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:47.600 management classes. Auzzy he gets eighteen months of probation, two 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.000 hundred hours of community service and anger management classes. Now, 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.760 were they sended the same anger management class? Like a 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.399 group therapy. You sit in there and those two come 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:04.320 in a back leather. Yeah, Well here's the AZZI gets 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.200 like the lesser. He's always the lesser there. Yeah, he 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.720 just doesn't get enough, So Jose said later that he 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.119 pled guilty because he wanted to spare his family the 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.560 pain at the trial, and he said he added, quote, 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.240 if I would have hit any of these gentlemen seven 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.040 or eight times as they claim, they wouldn't be standing, 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.040 which kind of backs up what Presley said. He yelled, Yeah, 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.000 I kind of believe him, But don't you think, like 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.639 I feel like every statement that he makes, like the 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.720 bad to the bone riff has to come out. He 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:40.760 wouldn't be standing barning, you know what I'm saying. The 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:48.560 guys just cool. Yeah. January two thousand three, Presley and 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:53.240 Cheeks they soothed the Conseco twins for battery, intentional infliction 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.840 of emotional stress and conspiracy to commit battery for when 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.880 the brothers looked at each other and nodded where they went. Yeah, 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.120 the boys, Presley in Cheeks. They asked for one point 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:11.280 five million dollars in compensatory damages and an unspecified amount 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.040 of punitive damages for injuries sustained in the fight. The 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:19.879 case goes to trial April two. Yeah, so it's like 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:25.679 we're now four years on almost The jury awarded Presley 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:30.359 in Cheeks around seven hundred thousand dollars and compensatory damages. 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:35.760 What they said that neither Conseco had acted in self defense. 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.800 It doesn't matter that they're defending their date nor his date. 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.600 The women's the women are worthless in this world. Do 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.800 you know that? We mean nothing? Yeah, they it doesn't 0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:50.080 matter if they're defending them, apparently because they weren't in 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.560 physical danger. So you have to like, you know, put 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.280 hands on a man before you explain, right, and so, 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.400 um they said it wasn't self defense. Presley gets awarded 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.280 more than two hundred thousand dollars for the injuries caused 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.920 by Jose Consaco Cheeks. Sweet Cheeks was awarded half a 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:11.399 million for his injuries caused by Azzie and ten percent 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:16.800 caused by Jose. He got slapped repeatedly. I guess, I 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.159