1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey Zarin, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: fancy meeting you here? Hey, what are you doing here, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Done? I just came to talk about ridiculous stuff. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Oh you're in luck. I've got something ridiculous. I've been 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: waiting to tell somebody. Oh, okay, hit me, you're ready. Okay. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: So in Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan, you say your dog suffers 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: from self esteem issues related to his or her you know, 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: dog pattern baldness. You can buy a dog to pay. Yeah, 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: they're sold in toy machines, just like those little gumball machines. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: So if you're like out and about now Blue, put 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: some pep in his step step. I'm not trying to 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: be like gender about this. Oh my good wait, So 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: do dog dogs don't have baldness? Oh yeah, they actually do. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: I mean they have made not like male pattern baldness 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: where they go like, you know, but just a fun 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: little Yeah, they just want to have a fun little time. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they recently had a surgery and they're just like 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: feeling a little self conscious about it, or maybe they 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: just like, you know, they never really liked being a blonde. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: That's true, you know, let's switch it up. Yeah, just 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: like ridiculous. Yeah. Sorry, do you want to know what 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: else is ridiculous? I love ridiculous when major League Baseball 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: players fighting random dudes while dresses vampires. Did you say 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: twin major League Baseball player dresses vampires. I'm there, I'm 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton. He's Saron Burnett, and this is Ridiculous Crime, 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: It's always murder free and one ridiculous. Saren Elizabeth. I 28 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: brought a friend here today to help me tell this 29 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: episode story. Oh thank god, I thought I was hallucinating. 30 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: He's not just my friend, he's my brother, Travis Dutton. 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: For those who are not in the know, he wrote 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and played the theme song Ridiculous Crime, and some of 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: our listeners may remember that he also told a classmate 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: in elementary school that John bon Jovi was our uncle 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and he is not man. So thanks for coming over 36 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: here to Ridiculous Crime headquarters today, Travis, how you doing? 37 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me excited to be It's good 38 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: to be at the headquarters. Thank you. This is our 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: first guest. Yeah, we have parking validation. We can ask 40 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: you about that one of the dogs. Yeah. Another thing 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: to know about traviy Um and me, but more him, 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: is that he's a serious Oakland A's baseball fan. This 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: is true. Yeah, when we were growing up, we had 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: season tickets and you were at the infamous World Series 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: game against the San Francisco Giants on October seventeenth. Loma 46 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Prieta earthquake hit right before the game five oh four. 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: What was that, like, Travis, tell us what that was? Like? 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: You know what, the thing that really sticks out about 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: that is that, you know, like you said, it happened 50 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: right before the game was supposed to start, and it 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: was the A's versus the Giants Baybridge Series that you 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: could feel it in the air, and when the earthquake happened, 53 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: everyone in the stadium started cheering and and they didn't 54 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: realize how bad the situation was. And this is pre 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: cell phone pre so people were just so stoked about, 56 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, this big World Series, and it kindly it 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: started to set in like, oh wait, there's some buildings 58 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: on fire in the district. So people just thought that 59 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: everyone was like big game, Like it was just crazy. 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: And then exactly, yeah, you could see it almost looked 61 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: like water kind of on the field. Yeah, yeah, nobody. 62 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Everyone thought it was like awesome, that's crazy, that's crazy. Um. 63 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Who was your favorite as player in that time? Jose Canseco, 64 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: hands down. So that's actually why we're here today, jose Canseco. 65 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Let's do some background on on your man Jose for 66 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: a second, Sar. And you're familiar with him, right, mr guy. 67 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: He was the guy in the Bay for being like 68 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: combination of power and speed. Yes, yeah, so he played 69 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: right field for the A's from eighty five to ninety two. 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Amazing player. He was named American League MVP, as you said, 71 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: because he was the first player to hit forty home 72 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: runs and steal forty basses in the same season. Club baby, 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: not the not to be confused with Jay Z's nightclub Club. 74 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Is that what he named it after? Let's say he did. Um, Now, 75 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: don't forget we also had Ricky Henderson on that team. 76 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: He was my favorite, yeah, Ricky. Uh, Stolen bases were 77 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: a thing in those late eighties seasons. Um, it's an 78 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: exciting team, exciting time and uh, so many great players. 79 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Who else did you like? Oh, there's Dave Henderson, there 80 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: was Walt Weiss. You had start. You had Dennis Ecker 81 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: my favorite team. Yeah, and you know, Jose was one 82 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: of the Bash Brothers. He he and his teammate Mark McGuire. Um. 83 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: They were known as the Bash Brothers. For more information 84 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: on this, please watch the riveting nineteen documentary film called 85 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: The Unauthorized Bash Brothers Experience. Put it on my list, yeah, 86 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I promise you. Um. Can I just say that when 87 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: I saw that my soul briefly left my body, it 88 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: was just too much and too perfect. Um. So they 89 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: called themselves a Bash Brothers because Jose Canseco and Mark 90 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: McGuire used to get all juiced up and hit home 91 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: runs and then they bumped their forearms together in the 92 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: shape of an X when they trotted across o home plate, 93 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: and they called it the Monster Bash. Really I didn't know, though, 94 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Monster Bash. Everyone starts copying it, right, so like now 95 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you see kids, do I mean it's the monster ha ha? See. Okay, 96 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: So the a starts selling shirts and banners that say 97 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: let's bash, and then the marketing department for the A's 98 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: worked with Channel thirty six, which is like a local 99 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: UHF station. Um, they did a song in a music 100 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: video to the tune of Monster Match. Yes see, I 101 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: think like a marketing exac you do is you're right there, 102 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: You're one step ahead. So the video would play on 103 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: the Colisseum Diamond Vision screen. I'm going to put the 104 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: video up on our Instagram. I found it. Um. It 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: was awesome at the time, but like a lot of 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: things that seemed cool in the late eighties early nineties, 107 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: it reads a little corny now, just a little smidge, 108 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: but pretty cool feeling it. The video is funny because 109 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: the fashions have sort of come back around, so there's 110 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: like high waisted mom pants and like the haircuts and stuff, 111 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: so it looks like it could be someone trying to 112 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: be metro ironic now really good at it. It's Muyo 113 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: Tintoko so good. The A's went to the World Series 114 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: three straight years travels from shaking your head, man, It's 115 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: just if you've loved and lost like I have, you'd 116 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: understand how painful it is to bring all this stuff up. 117 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, eight um, you got the Kirk Gibson I knew. Yeah, 118 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing that l hirsh eys Er 119 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Gibson team. That was a tough year for y'all. 120 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: And then the arm pump. Yeah, the arm pump. Run 121 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: around the basis the old k veterans. Okay, we're gonna 122 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: be okay. Trapping would make it okay. Um he uh. 123 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Jose though, let's get back to Jose. Let's think about good. 124 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah cool. If you weren't around at that time, you don't. 125 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: You have to understand that Jose Canseco wasn't just a 126 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: big baseball star, and he was incredible. He was larger 127 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: than life. He was a cultural presence, if you will. 128 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: For a ten year old, he was like a Hulk 129 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Hogan type, just like wow, like just huge everything. Yeah, 130 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: outsized and flashy. It was. It was rumored that he 131 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: was dating Madonna, remember, but I don't think that was 132 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: actually true. I thought they did. I don't know. He 133 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: claims that she wanted to She told him she wanted 134 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: to have Cuban babies with him. Cuban, Yeah, that's She's like. 135 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm Puerto Rican. She's like, I know you're 136 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico, but you and me Cuban babies. Let's 137 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: do this. I don't know how it's good for um. 138 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I have a lab He drove crazy sports cars. He 139 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: had like mustangs and corvettes. Yeah, total corvette kind of guy. 140 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: You played, You played little league, and in order to 141 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: hone your skills, our mom sent you to Jose Cansaco 142 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: baseball camp at a local community college. Big shout out 143 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: to Diablo Valley College. Tell us about Jose Cansaco baseball camp. 144 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: What do you remember? It was very hot because it 145 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: was out in the suburbs of the Bay Area, so 146 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't used to that. Um, it was a normal 147 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: style baseball camp. Um, you know, running drills and all 148 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And basically, in my mind, I 149 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: thought Jose and Seco was going to be teaching you, 150 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: thinking me the ins and outs of baseball on a day, 151 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: day to day basis. But he showed up one afternoon 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: and did batting practice with an aluminum baseball bat and 153 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: just rocked baseballs out of this community college. And everyone's 154 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: just like whoa, you know, like, because an aluminium bat 155 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: for a major league baseball player is like it's it 156 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: was insane. So basically in my like, so, yeah, he 157 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: wasn't there every day. Did anyone else show up from 158 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the team, Yeah, Walt Weiss was with him. Was he 159 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the every day with you guys. It was very intimate, No, 160 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: but that was it they should like now thinking back, 161 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: he probably the Kose probably learned about this the morning 162 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: of Like his manager was probably like getting the vet. 163 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: You're going down to the community college. You gotta do 164 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: this batting practice for a bunch of kids. I think 165 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: there might have been a little speech, you know, like hey, 166 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: stay in school, keep your eye on the ball, and 167 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: don't do drugs. And he's got like a hanging out 168 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, and I got I got his autograph 169 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: on a baseball, but it was with a red pen 170 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: so you could barely see it. And I ended up 171 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: losing because I actually used it to play baseball, just 172 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: signed Jose in my twenties. Yeah, it was a weird time. Yeah, 173 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: so it's probably somewhere, you know, some back lot kicking around. 174 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: So here's this like he Jose Canseco god like baseball 175 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: hero for you, helps the A's win the eight nine series. Sure, um, 176 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: a couple of months after that eighty nine series, he 177 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: got a rested for illegal possession of a handgun, pled 178 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: guilty to a misdemeanor, got three years unsupervised probation. So 179 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: he's a baseball hero and a little bit of an outlaw, 180 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bad boy, bad boy for life. Um. 181 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: He also has a brother, just like I do, but 182 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: he has a twin brother. We're not twins, but he 183 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: has a twin brother named Azzi. And they were born 184 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: on July two, n sixty four in Havana, Cuba, And 185 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: so their parents brought them to the US the next 186 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: year and they grew up in Miami. So Azzi played 187 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: professional baseball too, and um, Jose is like a little 188 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: bit taller, but they're pretty much like, yeah, exactly. Um, 189 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: he played professional baseball, not at the level of Jose, 190 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: but he did play for the A's. He played for 191 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: the A's when a professional ball, which is big. That's 192 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: a big thing. I've never done that. So he was 193 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: on the A's when Jose was on the a And Um, 194 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: he struggled to match up to his siblings skills. We 195 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: mostly played together in spring training. Yeah, and then he 196 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: bounced around Japan for a little bit, played there, and 197 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: then came back and played on various minor league teams. Um, 198 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: so you got these two guys, twin brothers, skilled athletes, 199 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: a little wild, a couple of handsome Cubans out there 200 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: taking the world by storm. Let's take a quick break. Um. 201 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: I want you to, guys to loosen up, stretch, you know, 202 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: run some drills. When we come back, I'm gonna tell 203 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: you about an absolutely epic night that Jose Canseco and 204 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: his brother Ozzi had in Miami. Ben Veneto Amami. Where 205 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: their crimes, yes, where their costumes also? Yes? Interested take 206 00:12:46,840 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: a lap? Okay, Fellas. So right now it's me Zaren, 207 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: producer Dave and none other than my brother Travis, and 208 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: we're here to talk Conseco, talking Conseco, Fellas. I want 209 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: you to close your eyes and picture. Its Halloween Night 210 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: two thousand one the Opium Garden nightclub in Miami's South Beach. 211 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: It's a place to see and be seen. Total a 212 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: list joint, Miami's hottest nightclub. It's got everything. It's got 213 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Madori Sours, Legionnaire's disease, twin vampires, Jose Conseco, who at 214 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: this point is a free agent, and Azzie they like 215 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: strut into the club and they're wearing costumes. What costumes 216 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: do you think they're wearing? Baseball players and Roger Rabbit. 217 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: It's a horse costume the two part of horse in 218 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: the back. Um, they were dressed as leather clad vampires. 219 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: It was very kind of and Rice Yeah, okay, el 220 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: stat instead of listep Jose's date, Amber Glick, She's dressed 221 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: as a Native American. It's a dicey well, I'm guessing this. 222 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: He comes with feathers this out. Oh yeah, u p 223 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I reported that the costume was made of quote, feathers 224 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: and a bikini. It was a different time. It was 225 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: dress a bikini. That's her costume. That's her costume. I 226 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: don't know what was adorning the bikini costume. Dumb, dumb, offensive, 227 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: defensive and dumb. So there, so is this this nightclub 228 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: and it's apparently like this Asian themed nightclub, which again 229 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: we're just wading through problematic waters here completely um knee 230 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: deep at this point. But it's Halloween Night two thousand one, 231 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: so we're two months out from nine eleven. Ever, in 232 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: a mood, they want to cover this summer of the shark, right, 233 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: everyone was cared about sharks. Oh yeah, that was big 234 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: shark attacks and then little do we know, the eleven happened. 235 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: There we go, Now, then Halloween Night happened for the 236 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Conseco Boys. So there are some obviously other people at 237 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the party. Two of them where Christian Presley, who is 238 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: un or was an oncology drug researcher. I don't know 239 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: what he does now, can we know him? He's an 240 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: oncology drug at the time, he's like a number two 241 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: oncology drug researcher. He's a random clo. And then he's 242 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: there with his buddy Alan Cheeks, which I'm not making 243 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: like that sounds like something I called someone who's like 244 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: Alan Chico. No, Alan Cheeks. He's a scientist. So we 245 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: got science guys. Dr Cheeks if you're after Um, they're 246 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: visiting Miami for a conference and they just want to 247 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: get a little loose. Yeah, just get a taste in 248 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: the nightlife. Exactly Old Presley and Sweet Cheeks out on 249 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: the town. You know, Amber Glick Jose's date. She's walking 250 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: through the crowded club when, according to the Conseco Brothers, 251 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: Presley lifted up her skirt. So I guess she had 252 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: like a kind of like fancy skirt. And I'm thinking 253 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: by skirt they just mean a very wide belt, Like 254 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think it's like it's like 255 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: a Mennonite ankle length skirt. Um he lifts up her 256 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: skirt and grabs her crotch in her butt. Apparently it 257 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: was a long reach. He just went for a scoop 258 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: and jose was in the room. Was in the room. 259 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well let's see what happens, right, So okay 260 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: with them right there? So there she's walking through Presley. 261 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: Now he says, I only touched a feather on her skirt, 262 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: not her body. So he's just like tickling the feathers 263 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: as they walked by. Either way, I'm a featherfici, not 264 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: a what glick gets upset when this happens and she 265 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: runs to the bathroom. So I'm feeling like you wouldn't 266 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: run to the bathroom if someone just touched a feather 267 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: on your skirt. She said later she didn't see who 268 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: did it, but Aussie and Josie did. She also said 269 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: that her costume was homemade and that they're the only 270 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: feathers were on the headdress and that the skirt was 271 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: made of fur. She was wearing her for a bikini 272 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: guy and a head dress. Yeah, and uh, like a 273 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: woman who's also been how how much do you want 274 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: to bet she had like striped face paint to like 275 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: on her, like the whole nine. She's like, if I'm 276 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: going to be offensive, I'm just gonna go all in 277 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: going for it. So she's got this cause she says 278 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: he couldn't know, he couldn't have touched a feather because 279 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: no feathers on my skirt. Buddy, case closed. So, um, 280 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: you know, prosecution rests right there. Um, Pressley is standing 281 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: there just being a d bag, and so can the 282 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: vibes he's vibing on. When suddenly a six ft four 283 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: pound vampire wearing a sleeveless shirt and a black leather 284 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: vest rolls up to him. That vampire Josie Kin sakes right, 285 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to imagine this big meat castle just 286 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: bounding down on you. So there was this lawsuit later 287 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: and it stread and coming at you like sunburned and 288 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: you can see veinsds. So this lawsuit later there was 289 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: a statement quote without any provocation, Jose attacked Presley, shoving 290 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: him against a call um, lifting him up by the 291 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: throat and choking him. Jose punched Presley several times before 292 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: proceeding to punch cheeks. A bouncer tried to stop the attack, 293 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: but Jose can say, continued, I got this one really 294 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: busy right now fighting two dudes. He then jumped in 295 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and hit both Presley and Cheeks with an open fist. Now, 296 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: what's an open fist? Is my question? To slap right, 297 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Ozzy said he only hit Cheeks when he thought he 298 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: was threatening Jose with a broken beer bottle, So he 299 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: did it like self defense, fear for his own safety. 300 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: But why the open fist? Well, Azz, he said it 301 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: was because of the fake fingernails he was wearing as 302 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: a vampire. He couldn't make a fist. Oh yeah, he's 303 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: a snap with long nails. He does have a point, 304 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: but do you think they're probably just press on? So 305 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: if he started to claw with him, they go flying off. 306 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: But he still wants to party. He still wants that. 307 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to mess up his costume commitment to 308 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: the night. Yeah, because he's anticipating that the final end, 309 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: but the night will go on. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna 310 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: win this fight. So uh he so Azz he can't 311 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: make a fist because of his nails. Jose denies hitting 312 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Pressley at all. He said he only pushed him away 313 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: with an open hand to protect click bathroom to stop him. 314 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: He walked into it repeatedly, and then Azzy, he says, 315 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Ozzy did all the hitting. So it's the reverse of 316 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: what happened when they were in the bleak together. So 317 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: he throws his long nailed, long finger nailed brother under 318 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: the bus. Good job, Jose. According to Pressley, after the fight, 319 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: Jose yelled at him, you're lucky to be standing, right, 320 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: and that Presley was nine sure that he added after that, 321 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: you're lucky to be alive. What was doubt? Turkey? Can 322 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: we go back to the fight for a second. How 323 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: awesome that sounds that he picked the guy up from 324 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: his with his by the neck, put him against a type. Yeah, 325 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: and then while he's holding him up, proceeds to mr. 326 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: So he's got one guy suspended and then it comes up. Yeah, 327 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: that's that's that's just cool. It's cool. It's a great visual. 328 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: Um Presley, he got a broken nose, which later required 329 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: surgery to help him breathe allegedly, and he got cuts 330 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: to his mouth, probably from the nails. Um, he got 331 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: a concussion, he sprained his neck, and then he also 332 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: said he quote suffered disgrace, humiliation, and shame, deep deep shame, 333 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: like psychological and physical shame, like the kind you need 334 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: like years of therapy for. That's what the insurance companies, 335 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: he said. I think I have looked. I can't find 336 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: what these two clowns were dressed as, because I like, 337 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I need what are the dot does this? What does 338 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: a scientist dress up it on at a conference? Let's 339 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: imagine them dressed like those guys. One's dressed like uranus 340 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: and the other stress like some atomic structure for like caffeine. Okay, 341 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I like that. I like the Will Ferrell Christan pickup guys. 342 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, okay, couples costumes for sure, they're imagining 343 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: we're going as half a kiss. Yeah, But the thing 344 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: is there at a conference, did they pack costumes knowing 345 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: they'd be there for Halloween and they'd want to go out. 346 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: They just want on our heads and crazy guys. The 347 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: thing is, we don't know, so we get to invent it. 348 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: That's what I like. So I'm gonna just imagine they 349 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: took all the conference swag of like lanyards and stress balls, 350 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm a mad scientist. Yeah, all right, 351 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: let's go with that. So I'm Lea Coca's worst nightmare. 352 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: So Jose and Nazi they get arrested in all this 353 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: and they're held in Miami Dade County jail. Jose says, 354 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: I know that my brother and myself were definitely victims, 355 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and the girl I was with got sexually assaulted. We 356 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: got attacked. We are the victims here. We just defended ourselves. 357 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: Does have a point? November two thousand two, so like 358 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: a year later, the brothers plead guilty. Well, Auzzie pleads 359 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: to felony and misdemean battery and Jose pleads to one 360 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: count of felony aggravated battery in two counts of misdemeanor battery. 361 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: M Jose he gets sentenced to three years of probation, 362 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: two d and fifty hours of community service and anger 363 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: management classes. Auzzy he gets eighteen months of probation, two 364 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: hundred hours of community service and anger management classes. Now, 365 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: were they sended the same anger management class? Like a 366 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: group therapy. You sit in there and those two come 367 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: in a back leather. Yeah, Well here's the AZZI gets 368 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: like the lesser. He's always the lesser there. Yeah, he 369 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: just doesn't get enough, So Jose said later that he 370 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: pled guilty because he wanted to spare his family the 371 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: pain at the trial, and he said he added, quote, 372 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: if I would have hit any of these gentlemen seven 373 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: or eight times as they claim, they wouldn't be standing, 374 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: which kind of backs up what Presley said. He yelled, Yeah, 375 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: I kind of believe him, But don't you think, like 376 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: I feel like every statement that he makes, like the 377 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: bad to the bone riff has to come out. He 378 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't be standing barning, you know what I'm saying. The 379 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: guys just cool. Yeah. January two thousand three, Presley and 380 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Cheeks they soothed the Conseco twins for battery, intentional infliction 381 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: of emotional stress and conspiracy to commit battery for when 382 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: the brothers looked at each other and nodded where they went. Yeah, 383 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: the boys, Presley in Cheeks. They asked for one point 384 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: five million dollars in compensatory damages and an unspecified amount 385 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: of punitive damages for injuries sustained in the fight. The 386 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: case goes to trial April two. Yeah, so it's like 387 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: we're now four years on almost The jury awarded Presley 388 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: in Cheeks around seven hundred thousand dollars and compensatory damages. 389 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: What they said that neither Conseco had acted in self defense. 390 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that they're defending their date nor his date. 391 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: The women's the women are worthless in this world. Do 392 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: you know that? We mean nothing? Yeah, they it doesn't 393 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: matter if they're defending them, apparently because they weren't in 394 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: physical danger. So you have to like, you know, put 395 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: hands on a man before you explain, right, and so, 396 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: um they said it wasn't self defense. Presley gets awarded 397 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: more than two hundred thousand dollars for the injuries caused 398 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: by Jose Consaco Cheeks. Sweet Cheeks was awarded half a 399 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: million for his injuries caused by Azzie and ten percent 400 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: caused by Jose. He got slapped repeatedly. I guess, I 401 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: don't know. Um. The jury also ordered the brothers to 402 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: pay three thousand dollars in punitive damages. So it's like 403 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: a it's like a million dollars. So they got nothing 404 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: after legal feast basically basically five year exactly. That's the 405 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: lawyers got hooked up, right, they're a good job. So 406 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: after the verdict, Jose challenged Cheeks and Presley to a 407 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: lie detector test fifth, he tells the press, quote, this 408 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: is nothing but extortion. It's sad that it's come down 409 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: to this. This is unbelievable, complete scam. So, um, how 410 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: did jose do in those anger management classes a k 411 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: A AP anger management? I have a feeling that's probably 412 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: not his last anger management class? First or first? Um? 413 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: What do you think he selected as his community service? Uh? 414 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: Taking batting practice at a local community college. So how 415 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: did he do with the anger management? He didn't. He 416 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: just didn't go. And what did he pick for community service? Nothing? 417 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: He's like, I am not here to remember when I 418 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: was in my mirror, existence is a service to this community? Yeah? 419 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: When I was in a I went just didn't do anything. No, 420 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: nothing is that is that can that happening doesn't work 421 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: for me? That's the thing is like, apparently years ago 422 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: I heard this thing where from Oprah. I wasn't talking 423 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: to her personally, Oper and I on the phone. I 424 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: was like, Ops, tell me I heard her say something 425 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: about how when people ask you something to do something 426 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to do, you say, you know what, 427 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't work for me? And I just if you're 428 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: in a job and you say that to your boss 429 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: as I did, like about a week after hearing that 430 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't work. It totally when they say you've got 431 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 1: this project, Yeah, that doesn't work for me, Like it's 432 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: going to have to work or you're not going to 433 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: work here. But Jose he had been listening to the 434 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: same openings, like, guess what, that doesn't work for me. 435 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: February of two thousand three, Jose gets jailed for violating 436 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: his probation after he failed to take anger management, began 437 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: community service, and he also in that time left the 438 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: state without permission. I'm assuming multiple times. Yeah, he spent 439 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: a month in jail. So Ozzie, his father, Jose Conseco 440 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: senior because Jose is a junior. And then they and 441 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: a priest walk into a book. Those three they go 442 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: to the They go with Jose to the hearing, so 443 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: he brings his brother, his father, and a priest. The 444 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: judge changes Jose sentenced to two years of house arrest 445 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: followed by three years of probation, and that Jose would 446 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: need to check in weekly with a probation officer and 447 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: have to ask permission to leave his house or to travel. 448 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: And they said, if you mess this up, you're going 449 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: to go to prison for fifteen years. Get the out. 450 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: Are you for real and totally for real on this? 451 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly that was the quote from the priest. Get that. 452 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: But like, here's the thing Jose always thinking when he 453 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: was on house arrest. Um, he tried his hand at 454 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: an online business. He for you could buy an afternoon 455 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: with him, and you could buy it on his website. 456 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: Just like to go hang out with him? Can I 457 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: say you want it? Said quote? Spend the afternoon afternoon 458 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: with Jose at his house in South Florida. Ideas for 459 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: activities private power hitting instruction, private martial arts instruction, work 460 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: out with Jose, and cook out by the pool. Like 461 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: I would have one of paid. I didn't know about this. 462 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I would have paid, wouldn't have any money left day. 463 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: It's not clear how many, if any afternoons he sold, 464 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: but you know he went out there with it. May 465 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: two thousand three, also still on probation, Ozzy gets arrested 466 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: in Punta Gorda, Florida, and he's charged with possessing an 467 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: illegal anabolic steroid, driving with a revoked license, and possession 468 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: of drug paraphernalia. So he gets stopped by a sheriff's 469 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: deputy because his windows were two tinted Classic class. That's 470 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: happened to me. He was released after posting dollars bond 471 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: and then was sentenced to four months in jail for 472 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: part for all of the above the steroids. June two 473 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: thousand three, Jose gets arrested again and was jailed for 474 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: nine weeks for violating probation after testing positive for steroids. 475 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: So Azzi probably just driving the steroids over because Jose 476 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: can't leave the house. Someone someone's got to do some 477 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Azzi goes under the bus over and who if not? 478 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: He ain't heavy, He's my brother. Um. He did. Eventually, 479 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: Jose eventually completed anger management and he did a hundred 480 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: and twenty hours out of two hundred and fifty community 481 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: service with the Boys Club of Miami. Probably hidden balls, um, 482 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: but Jose didn't drop off the map. When we come 483 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: back from this ad break, I'm gonna tell you about 484 00:31:48,520 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: some other Canseco scraps. Okay, guys, guys, guys. When we 485 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: left off, Jose can say going his twin brother Ozzie, 486 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: they got into a fight at a cheesy Miami nightclub, 487 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: well dressed like sexy vampires. From the International Male Catalog. 488 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: And do you think that they were wearing like pelazzo 489 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: pants pants? Think the pants guys probably like crushed velvet 490 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: like Lost Boys, definitely loose. Yeah, you don't think they 491 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: were wearing like, yeah, they probably weren't like a tight 492 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: tight crushed velvet. I think Jose's in crushed velvet leggings 493 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: and azzies and wide like pelazzo pants. We're going to 494 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: cover this. You know, He's got like Steve Harvey's suit 495 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: on it can rejected Steve Harve pants. Part like Jose said, 496 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: all right, you wear these. I'm going to wear the 497 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: sex sexy one. Yeah, you wear that. Yeah, and Azzi's like, okay, 498 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: you can't hide. So um they whooped the stuff and 499 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: out of those two bros, Presley and Cheeks, Um, they 500 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: got arrested, pleaded guilty. They sued, had a million dollar 501 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: judgment against him. Jose did not let that stop him. 502 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: You guys, he loves the spotlight. What can I say? 503 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: He loves entertaining and that's beyond sports. So when he 504 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: was playing professionally, he was a guest on The Simpsons 505 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: and on Nash Bridges. Have I ever told you my 506 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Nash Bridges story. You have a Nash Bridges story do. 507 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 1: They used to film in San Francisco, right, And when 508 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: I was working in San Francisco as a young gal um, 509 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I would see them filming all the time, all the time. 510 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: They were always all over the place downtown, and so 511 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: I would meet up with a friend of mine on 512 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: a regular basis after work, and like sometimes we'd go 513 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: and get drinks or get dinner, and we'd walk by 514 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: them all the time. And I got into this habit 515 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: of every time I saw them filming, I would walk 516 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: up to the perimeter and when I'd see Don Johnson, 517 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: ideal Dad, Dad, it's me Dad. And I did it 518 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: so often that they started to recognize me, and it 519 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: cracked Cheach up. But it did not make Don Johnson 520 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: laughing too close to the bone. Yeah, And I had to, like, 521 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: I was worried that I was going to start getting like, 522 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, arrested or something. So you stopped for 523 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: a while. But you know, just like all crazy haired 524 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: gal Dad, that's a good running bit. Yeah it is, 525 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: you know, I love a running bit. Um. Back to Jose, 526 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: so he and I were both involved with Nash Bridges 527 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: in one way, or another. But after he retired from baseball, 528 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: m Jose did amazing things. Can I read you a list? Please? 529 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have to ask. He did 530 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of reality TV shows. He was on The 531 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: Surreal Life and he was also on Celebrity Apprentice. Yeah, 532 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: apparently he had to bail out on it because his 533 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: dad got sick. I thought it was because he hated Trump, 534 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: but that could be too But he left the show 535 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: and then his dad passed away not long after that. 536 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: So yeah. Um. He played himself in the seventeen film 537 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: Slam a Jamma. I missed that one. It's a it's 538 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: a drama about basketball. I'm not kidding. It's a drama. 539 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: Slam a Jamma. It was an oscar play. They really 540 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: they released in October. They thought they had high hopes. 541 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: They were shooting the moon on that one stars Barbara 542 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: Streian Barbara in Slam a Jamma. Um, he either challenged 543 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: or has been challenged to fight um A sportscaster Danny 544 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: Bonda Ducci act they did fight, um, some dude from 545 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: Barstool Sports whatever. And then this delusional quote unquote celebrity 546 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: boxer named Todd Poulton. How can you be a celebrity 547 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: boxer if no one's ever heard of you? Good question. 548 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: That's why I put delusional in there as a qualifier. 549 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: Celebrity chef. That was my that was my adjective modifier. 550 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: Split in their delusional. Yeah. Um. He opened jose Can 551 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: Saco's Showtime car Wash in Las Vegas, where he would 552 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: go and sign autographs occasionally. Always wanted to go there. 553 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: You could just drive to Vegas to get your car. No, 554 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: I've been to you know, okay, like this is We're 555 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna go visit the car wash and we just never 556 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: followed through. As he signed the car, he washes and 557 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: details your car personally. He gets all juiced up and 558 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: does it like crazy style. Um. No, he would show 559 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: up and like yes, sign autographs for people and chum around. Um. 560 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: The place has a two star yell brading. It's there, amazing, 561 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: a lot of complaints. It's a I think it's cheeks. 562 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: It's the only reviews um. He was a columnist for 563 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Vice magazine for a while. Has a hilarious Twitter account. 564 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: He has a Twitter personality. Yes yes, and then he 565 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: also he wrote the foreword to a novel written by 566 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: Dan Reichert and the novel is called Air Force Gator 567 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: to Scales of Justice. Okay, so there's this novel, but 568 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: this is right on some scraps of paper, right, this 569 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: was published and the book is called Air Force Gator 570 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: to Scales of Justice. This is a sequel to Steven 571 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: Seagal Territory. Oh yeah, we're definitely dipping. How do you 572 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: know Airports Gator means? I'm going to tell you because 573 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Jose wrote the foreword, I'm going to read you a 574 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: synopsis of the book. Quote. In this sequel to the 575 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: revolutionary Air Force Gator, eight years have passed since the 576 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: Crocodile Rock incident that almost irrevocably damaged the United States. Stop. 577 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: I have to get through this. Since saving the country 578 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: on that day, Air Force Gators legendary status has grown 579 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: to unseen heights. His strength is magnified after being exposed 580 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: to the chemical Gatoray. He's dating a super hot stripper. 581 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: Once a desperate and alcoholic hormonger, the Alligator Pilot has 582 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: finally found peace when President Obama organizes a rally on 583 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: the National Mall to honor the inaugural Air Force Gator Day. 584 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: The heroic reptile plans on announcing his retire Gator What 585 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: he's a gator, He's an alligatory were wide heroic reptile. Wait, 586 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: I totally love just too much going on right now. 587 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: When President Obama organizes a rally on the National Mall 588 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: to honor the inaugural Air Force Gator Day, the heroic 589 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: reptile plans on announcing his retirement from military duty. His 590 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: dreams of a quiet retirement come crashing down around him 591 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: when a fringe group of radical reptiles led by an 592 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: evil pig farmer, interrupts the festivities and carries out a 593 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: massive terrorist attack. Devastated by the increasingly personal attacks of 594 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: the Sons of Gustav, it's time for Gator to lace 595 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: up his boots again and bring the pain down on 596 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: nar Um. That sounds like a like a ten year 597 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: old got into the pixie stick totally started going crazy, 598 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, like it's like, yeah, like that's really wold. Well. 599 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: Jose said that he felt that the Alligator Fighter Pilot 600 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: was basically a metaphor for him and his life. I'm 601 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: not kidding. I think I think he really think it's 602 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: probably the most I mean, he would know he's Jose, 603 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: So I gat fighter pilot whose Yeah, it's right there. 604 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: I now know what I'm getting everyone in my life 605 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: for Christmas. This book. Yeah, Air Force Gator too. You know, 606 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: they don't really do a lot of research about what 607 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: steroids due to your brain. It's all about the muscle. 608 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: You don't really the package. Yeah, yeah, you're right, it's right. 609 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: You don't know what's going on in nthead. Now, there 610 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: is one other story about Jose and punching and fighting 611 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: that I think is a good way to close this 612 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: out today. So in two thousand eleven, Jose agreed to 613 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: fight boxing trainer slash former college boxer Billy Patton in 614 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: a celebrity boxing match on the Boxing Light on the 615 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: Celebrity at a casino in Hollywood, Florida, Heavy on the 616 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: Florida Light on the Hollywood. Jose Is paid ten dollars 617 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: for the event half before half day. Yeah, you got 618 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: to show up. And then they said they'd give him 619 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars and travel expenses. So if he takes a greyhound, 620 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: he's really like, let's just cream on top of that. Dudes. 621 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: Let's picture it one more time. Close your ats. It's Saturday, 622 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: March two eleven, Conseco makes his way through the Seminal 623 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: Hard Rock Hotel and Casino. It's about thirty minutes to 624 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: fight time. Four hundred fans have crowded into the place 625 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: to see Jose Canseco fights on guy four hundred whole people. 626 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: He starts to get ready. He asks for that five 627 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: thousand dollar payment. He says, you know what, just make 628 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: the checkout to cash. I'm not making Can you do 629 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: that if you're Jose Uh. He laces up his Janet 630 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: checks and Pleasure Principal video shoes, changes into some shiny shorts. 631 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: He whips off his shirt, and he's getting ready to 632 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: be all oiled up when the promoters notice something. A 633 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: representative from Celebrity Boxing walks up to Conseco and stares 634 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: at his good by sep eyeball in it now. He 635 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: then looks at Conseco's face, looks back at the bicep, 636 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 1: and he looks over at a flyer for the event 637 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 1: that featured a photo of greased up Jose Canseco ready 638 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: to duke get out seem like enough In the photo, 639 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Jose Conseco has bicep tattoos. Now I've looked at pictures 640 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: and I cannot, for the life of me make out 641 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: what the tattoos are. They're like, they're sort of vaguely tribal, 642 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: like like a barbed wire. Anderson, Yes, they're bands. Um, 643 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: they're like, but they kind of look like maybe banners 644 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: or swords. One kind of looks like they're not matching. 645 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: One looks like maybe there's a root involved, like going 646 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: into his skin, kind of collusion a plant or a dragon. 647 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, alligator, it's like a sword alligator eating 648 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: a sword. Um, but their bicep bands. So the promoter 649 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: looks at the skin in front of him, inc free, 650 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: I know what he's got the wrong yep. Jose sent 651 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: Azzie for me exactly. The four people who paid to 652 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: see the fight were sent home. We can't go through 653 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: azz Azzie's like, oh I forgot Azzie wouldn't give the 654 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: check back, give us a check He's like, no, So 655 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: celebrity boxing CEO Damon Feldman. He went to the press, 656 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: but Jose accused Feldman of trying to trick the public. 657 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: Jose said he'd thrown his back out earlier and that 658 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: Feldman had approved the switch. Oh I like it. Mighty 659 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: of the waters. But how could Azzie fight because his 660 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: nails are too long? Right, that's the question. So Jose 661 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: then tells the New York Post who reached him using 662 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: eight dollar ninety nine phone number he'd posted on Twitter. 663 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: Phone Uh, he said, He tells the Post. To make 664 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: a long story short, Damon tried at the last second, 665 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: tried to announce my brother Ozzie was Jose Canseco. The 666 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: last thing my brother wanted was to commit fraud. Damon 667 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: tried to pull a fast one. I just like the 668 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: fact that he has a number and it works. You 669 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: get him, like he picks up a Berners, like, what 670 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: do you want? Um? Feldman won the default judgment when 671 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: Jose failed to show up in court. Man, you know, 672 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: so he was awarded around seventy number are really falling, right, 673 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 1: But he told reporters he expected he'd never be able 674 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: to collect the money from Jose. Jose does what he wants. 675 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: It's not that Yeah, did Azzie ever get to cash 676 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: that check? Well, it was made out to cash. I'm 677 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: saying Azzi went and now he's on other errands for 678 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: Jose's picking. That's the tale of Jose and Ozzie Conseco. 679 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: For you. I love them. I do too. They're like 680 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: they're like lovable, you know, soft headed demigods like lovable galute. 681 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's like he means well, he means well 682 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: well cut. Yeah sure, so ridiculous takeaway here, man um, 683 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: Like when you so this is your childhood hero aside 684 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: from Slash, this is your childhood hero. My takeaway would 685 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: be that Jose really should appreciate his brother because he's 686 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: been there and he's done all the dirty work for him, 687 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: and that means something we need to celebrate Azzie. Yeah, 688 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: how could we do that with an azzi renaissance and 689 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: elevate Azzi? That's what we need to do. What about you? 690 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: Ar uh? My ridiculous takeaway is very simple. It's mostly 691 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: an aesthetic fashion choice, which is, don't wear a fur 692 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: bikini to a Miami nightclub. And if you're going to 693 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: fight flatten the nails against the palm and then switch, 694 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: you're going to lose the nails and all that hard 695 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: work is put to not I think though, if you're 696 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: banning for bikini's from Miami nightclubs, you're taking out a 697 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: significant portion of the attendees. Some of these places never 698 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: wear that for ever. My takeaway is that you've got 699 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: to love a character, you know. I think certain certain 700 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: talents and abilities obviously allow people more room to be 701 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: total characters. But I think the best takeaway is at 702 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: Assie's the champ here. Yeah, he's always down for whatever, 703 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: always has his brother's back. That's to be applauded. He's 704 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: a loyal he is, He's a real a. That's us 705 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: for today, Travis, Thank you so much for coming. Thanks 706 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: for having me Guy Culous Crime HQ. 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Avery. 716 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: You wrote in to let us know that you've been 717 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: up there at summer camp taking care of the kids, 718 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: volunteering and the nurse you with the babies and listening 719 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: to Ridiculous Crime. Well, thank you for that, but we 720 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: also saw that you recently contracted COVID and are now 721 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: having to quarantine by yourself. We both feel terrible about that, 722 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: and we just wanted to send you a very special 723 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: shout out and hope that you feel better very soon, 724 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: have a ridiculously good weekend, and uh we'll be thinking 725 00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: of you. Ridiculou. 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