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Speaker 1: What's two three frights in the middle of the fielding.

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Speaker 2: Loose football down in the one yard line?

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: That is the ultimate commotion.

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Speaker 4: and we're here to talk about what just went down

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Speaker 4: in NFL Week ten Action and of course look ahead

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Speaker 4: to Monday and Thursday night football. I'm Enhearted's director of

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Speaker 4: the Fantasy Labs, NFL product in Action Network analysts here

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Speaker 4: along with me as always Chris Raymond, co host of

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Speaker 4: I'll Take That Bet on ESPN plus, senior editor and

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Speaker 4: NFL analysts at Action Network and Fantasy Labs. Chris, what's

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Speaker 4: going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: What is up? And every time you say NFL product,

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Speaker 1: it just reminds me that that move me of American

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Speaker 2: In the product.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you just something about the way you

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Speaker 1: see product, like like it's more, it's more than NFL.

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Speaker 2: You're pedal over here.

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Speaker 4: It's all about product.

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Speaker 2: Many.

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Speaker 4: You know, I keep my front up, but that there's

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Speaker 4: some other stuff going on behind the scene. I don't

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Speaker 4: know about. You gotta know what's the main takeaway from

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Speaker 4: that movie? You can't you can't show off your riches

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Speaker 4: too much. You gotta have a little mystery, a little

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Speaker 4: mystery to the name.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and you gotta you gotta blot it because

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Speaker 1: it's outpack.

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Speaker 4: You got that, fair enough? We'll good things started with

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Speaker 4: some of our best and worst core plays of the week.

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Speaker 3: Some players pay and some players sligh. Who are the

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Speaker 4: All right, Chris, how about you start things off here?

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Speaker 4: What was your best core play a week ten?

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Speaker 1: Core play was definitely David Johnson. He actually was fairly

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Speaker 1: for a core played definitely DJ.

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Speaker 4: Byron Lefleet is just getting DJ fans hers on his back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm at a running back too. I was looking enough

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Speaker 4: Just look at this net. We'll get a little more

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Speaker 4: in the workload later, but we really have seen that

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Speaker 4: freaking Oswaler. So we'll always take that my worst play

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Speaker 4: I'm I have a huge week spot for these athletically

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Speaker 4: week that was Chris Conley, Chiefs normally number three receiver

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Speaker 4: Man Conley's from Georgia, A really talented guy doesn't get

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Speaker 4: he was their number four pass game target. Not terrible,

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Speaker 1: Not not because he played him, but just it's kind

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Speaker 4: Those are a touch of things that happened.

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Speaker 4: So there's nothing worse than having a fantasy question going

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Speaker 2: It'sake Yeah, it's like Robert Foster will have a great week.

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Speaker 4: I've been like halfway through an article, warm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm the trash man.

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Speaker 3: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it,

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Speaker 4: You've been told off. How do you like that?

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Speaker 4: This week's trash man is Kareem Hunt. There are a

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Speaker 4: look at Kareem thirty three point five percent owning a

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Speaker 4: It's not really what we were looking for in this

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Speaker 4: Any takeaways here, like moving forward, Are you concerned about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more so one of those unfortunate occurrences.

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Speaker 2: Price is so high. So I think that's what happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just so many options on offense. You know, we

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Speaker 4: Next time we'll see Kareem Hunt next Monday Night against

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Speaker 4: the Rams. Who can't wait for that one? All right?

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Speaker 4: And now for the team that's lost the public the

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Speaker 2: It, that is a disgusting act.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Joe, the New England Patriots, seventy seven percent

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Speaker 4: of public tickets. We're back in the Patriots on minus

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Speaker 4: our actual network, NFL Live Odds page. Oh man, Pats

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Speaker 1: I mean, And that's it's crazy too, because you got

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Speaker 2: That's why you're starting to see him move around a

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Speaker 4: So good for that, absolutely all right now, we're going

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Speaker 3: Becoming a DFS millionaire. Talk about a dream come true.

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Speaker 3: What Draft Kings lineup lived a daily Fantasy fantasy this weekend.

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Speaker 4: This is probably the coolest winning lineup we've had this year.

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Speaker 4: Some Bears fan just had an absolutely incredible Sunday. This

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Speaker 4: guy went ahead and stacked Mitch Trubisky, Tarik Cohen, Alan Robinson,

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Speaker 4: rest in the lineup. Nick Chubb was his RB two

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I think the Bears were a team that

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Speaker 1: He had a stretch where he was he scored I

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Speaker 1: And you know, now he's going to face a defense

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Speaker 4: high scoring Bears offense and no hunger that niemagroup we

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Speaker 4: got used to watching under Johnny, So good stuff moving

438
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Speaker 4: on in Chicago. All right, now we go ahead and

439
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Speaker 4: look at some of the week's key injuries and then

440
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Speaker 4: go on some workload stuff.

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Speaker 3: Keep your head on a swivel for the injury report.

442
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Speaker 4: Big one from the afternoons, like Cooper Cup, reports are

443
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Speaker 4: saying that you know, the Fears is a torn ACL

444
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Speaker 4: MRI will be done tomorrow, but you know, just non

445
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Speaker 4: contact injury. Head coach Sean McVay came out and said

446
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Speaker 4: it does not he does not think it looks good.

447
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Speaker 4: So we did see this Rams offense in week seven

448
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 4: and eight without Cup. He had this other knee injury.

449
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 4: Woods had fourteen targets, Cooks had thirteen, Josh Reynolds had six.

450
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Speaker 4: They did keep this three wide receiver set on the

451
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Speaker 4: field all the time, so we didn't see too much

452
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Speaker 4: two tight end stuff coming in without Cup mentioned before

453
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Speaker 4: next matchup, this Monday night shootout against the Chiefs. What

454
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Speaker 4: are your thoughts on this Rams passing offense moving forward

455
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Speaker 4: potentially without Cook.

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Speaker 2: Well for fantasy.

457
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Speaker 1: It's good news in the sense of being able to

458
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Speaker 1: forecast who's gonna get what slice of the pie. I mean,

459
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Speaker 1: this was a highly concentrated offense coming in, you know,

460
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Speaker 1: to this Week ten game where you had Robert Woods

461
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Speaker 1: at twenty five percent of the targets, Brandon Cooks at

462
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Speaker 1: twenty four percent in when he's active, and then Cup

463
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Speaker 1: at twenty percent when he's active. So you know, those

464
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Speaker 1: top three guys were getting about seventy percent of the

465
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Speaker 1: overall team targets. Todd Gurley there at seventeen percent, So

466
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Speaker 1: right there you pretty much know exactly where the targets

467
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Speaker 1: are going to go. I think without Cup you'll see

468
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Speaker 1: Woods's share bump up, maybe at one or two ticks.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to go much higher or sustain, you know,

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Speaker 1: much higher than twenty five overextended period. Cooks same thing

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Speaker 1: because even though he is the lower percentage route runner,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay, especially given this, I think he'll do some

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Speaker 1: things to get Cooks some more higher percentage routes. And

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Speaker 1: one thing I think it's really cool about Sewn mcg

475
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Speaker 1: that he's he's kind of helping us out in fantasy

476
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Speaker 1: as well. I haven't seen anyone really talking about this yet,

477
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Speaker 1: but I'm sure somebody's been talking about this. But like

478
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Speaker 1: he's given these these receivers rushing attempt and that's like

479
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Speaker 1: really helping their their Florence ceiling. Like every week you

480
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Speaker 1: look up in Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks has like a

481
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Speaker 1: couple of carries, and today Brandon Cooks ends up catching

482
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Speaker 1: ten balls for one hundred yards but does not score

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Speaker 1: through the air.

484
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Speaker 2: Yet he gets in on the ground on a rushing attempt, And.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of something that I wonder if this

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Speaker 1: is like another way Sean McVay has kind of found

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Speaker 1: to exploit the NFL. Because I'm not I don't know

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Speaker 1: this off hand, but I would guess that wide receiver

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Speaker 1: carries have a higher yard per carry average than running

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Speaker 1: back carries due.

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Speaker 4: I would think you're right there on that. And yeah,

492
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Speaker 4: it's interesting because I think last year they basically had

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Speaker 4: Tavon Austin as their kind of sub packaged guy to

494
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Speaker 4: run those fly sweeps for him and do that motion thing,

495
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Speaker 4: and this year they basically just felt comfortable using either

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Speaker 4: cup of Woods or Cooks in that same role. And

497
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Speaker 4: you know, having all those guys that can do. It

498
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Speaker 4: just makes them that much more dangerous. After six weeks,

499
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Speaker 4: I kind of had the same question in my mind

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Speaker 4: because I had seen a lot more wide receivers getting handoffs.

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Speaker 4: So this isn't fully up to date, But after six

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Speaker 4: weeks of twenty eighteen, there were one hundred and twenty

503
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Speaker 4: eight rush attempts by a wide receiver. In twenty seventeen

504
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Speaker 4: that was only ninety five. So you know, so folks

505
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Speaker 4: like you gotta like this speaks to look at the

506
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Speaker 4: preparation of this man, because like me, we did not

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Speaker 4: this is that I just kind.

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Speaker 2: Of took that off the top. Like I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell I, I didn't put this in an

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Speaker 1: outline or anything. I didn't tell them that I was

511
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Speaker 1: going to talk about wide receiver rushing excelf. It just

512
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Speaker 1: kind of came up and I just thought about it.

513
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Speaker 1: But with the static that was impressive me.

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Speaker 2: That was that was real.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, it's interesting thoughts and we're just, you know,

516
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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks off, but we got the same

517
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Speaker 4: ideas flown through.

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Speaker 1: What's crazy is I bet you like those rams receivers

519
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Speaker 1: are accounting for a big chunk of that because so

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Speaker 1: coming into this week, Robert Woods had ten carries for

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Speaker 1: ninety four yards. That's nine point four per carry. Brandon

522
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Speaker 1: Cooks five for thirty two, that's six point four per carry,

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Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup fourth for twenty five that's six point

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Speaker 1: three per carry.

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Speaker 2: So like Sean McVay, shout, shout out to Sean McVay.

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Speaker 4: Shout Sean McVay. And meanwhile, New England we got quarter

527
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Speaker 4: Opatterson finally playing his rightful position in the backfield. It's

528
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Speaker 4: just a it's a great time to be alive.

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Speaker 1: It's next, I mean Austin Tevan Austin going to come

530
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Speaker 1: back and like actually the Cowboys going to use him

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Speaker 1: that as a running back. Like, I mean, we've seen

532
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Speaker 1: a Pierre in Arson touchdown, Cory Davis touchdown in two straight,

533
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Speaker 1: Julio Jones touchdowns, So I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 1: it's a time.

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Speaker 2: For all these things to kind of correct themselves.

536
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Speaker 4: Hopefully Tavon can get healthy, see fulfill out for us,

537
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Speaker 4: all right. Next to injury, Julian Edelman suffered a knee injury.

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Speaker 4: Didn't seem like a non co like he wasn't card

539
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Speaker 4: in the locker room or anything. So I don't know

540
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Speaker 4: the severity, but tentatively hoping it's not too bad anyway.

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Speaker 4: We'll know more on that later. Patriots have a week

542
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Speaker 4: eleven by, so this isn't We don't need to worry

543
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Speaker 4: about this too much for the time being, but moving forward.

544
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Speaker 4: You know, Chris Hogen, we saw him kind of work

545
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Speaker 4: as more of that slock guy in weeks one before,

546
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Speaker 4: only really had an extra half target per game though

547
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Speaker 4: during that stretch obviously could get filled or sat on

548
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Speaker 4: the field a little more. But there's no Julian Edelman

549
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Speaker 4: in this offense. What are your thoughts on the targets?

550
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Speaker 4: And two, what are your thoughts on this Patriots offense

551
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Speaker 4: as a whole, Like do you think they have kind

552
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Speaker 4: of the same ceiling without Edelman and a banged up Gronk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, first of all, you know, the ceiling

554
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Speaker 1: changes anytime Gronk isn't out there, so that's that kind

555
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Speaker 1: of knocks the ceiling down regardless. I mean, the splits

556
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Speaker 1: are pretty drastic in terms of Tom Brady's numbers.

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Speaker 2: With and without Gronk, so it always is like a

558
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Speaker 2: level down.

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Speaker 1: Edelman is a little bit different in terms of he

560
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Speaker 1: probably affects I'd say the floor almost more than the

561
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Speaker 1: ceiling of that offense, because he's just so reliable and

562
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Speaker 1: on third down and whatnot, And especially when you don't

563
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Speaker 1: have a guy like Danny m Mendola kind of waiting

564
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Speaker 1: in the wings to replace him. If he is going

565
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Speaker 1: to miss a game or two, that could be problematic.

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Speaker 1: And then if you compound that with Rock being out,

567
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Speaker 1: it is a whole different offense. I think with the

568
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Speaker 1: Patriots really have to do and what what's gonna end

569
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Speaker 1: up working best for them is something we've kind of

570
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Speaker 1: seen from them in the past, which is being a

571
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Speaker 1: running back centric offense. They tend to have a lot

572
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Speaker 1: of success like that. I mean, I think we talked

573
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Speaker 1: about it earlier in the year. They had James White

574
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Speaker 1: like a couple of carries away from being Todd Gurley

575
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Speaker 1: in in terms of some of the numbers he was

576
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Speaker 1: putting up rushing, receiving the touchdowns every week. And you know,

577
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Speaker 1: James White, you know, nothing against him, but you know

578
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Speaker 1: he's not nearly on the level of some of the

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Speaker 1: other backs talent wise that can put up those kind

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Speaker 1: of numbers. But the Patriots is just very good at

581
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Speaker 1: kind of putting their players like that. They're running backs

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Speaker 1: in positions to succeed. We saw it with Diian Lewis

583
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Speaker 1: last year down the stretch, and so I think they

584
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Speaker 1: really have to get back to that to run in

585
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Speaker 1: the football. They have Sony Michelle as a number five

586
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Speaker 1: success rate among running backs, and with that says that

587
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Speaker 1: he's been a very consistent play to play, picking up

588
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Speaker 1: the yards that they need. And then you have James

589
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Speaker 1: White and you know you already know what he does

590
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Speaker 1: in the passing game, So I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see. Chris Hopey hasn't been able to draw targets

592
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Speaker 1: to get the separation this year. His targets per snap

593
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Speaker 1: number is way down, so's he's being out. He's been

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Speaker 1: out there a lot running routes, and it's just I

595
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Speaker 1: think Evan Silva put it best in his Matchup column

596
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Speaker 1: this past week when he said Hogan essentially is just

597
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Speaker 1: running wind sprints all games, you know, like just it's

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Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I think that that pretty much

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Speaker 1: sums it up. I'm looking at their targets per snap

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Speaker 1: data right now, and Chris Hogan way down at eleventh

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Speaker 1: on the team, just six point seven percent of the

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Speaker 1: time that he plays a snap, so not you know,

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Speaker 1: he's just either run blocking or he's not getting targeted,

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of been ugly for him. I think

605
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Speaker 1: you could see a little bit of an upticket both

606
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Speaker 1: Bronk and Edelman are out, but I would expect to

607
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Speaker 1: get back to just James White kind of explosion games

608
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Speaker 1: because if you look at White's targets, he's been targeted

609
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Speaker 1: like the number one receiver pretty much this entire season.

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Speaker 1: He came into this week averaging nine targets per game.

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Speaker 1: He only had one game with West and seven coming in.

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Speaker 1: I believe he I don't think he got to I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if he got to seven today or not.

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Speaker 2: I think he was. I think he had five catches.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he targets you got, but either way,

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Speaker 1: it was one of his, you know, more down receiving

617
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Speaker 1: weeks of the year, and I think they just need

618
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Speaker 1: to get back to for feeding him, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you'll probably see with with Patterson Mixon in a little

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Speaker 1: more too.

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Speaker 4: Would definitely make sense of what we've seen from them historically.

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Speaker 4: All Right, another team with a crowded backfield most of

623
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Speaker 4: the time. Miami Dolphins Kenyan Drake played for a little bit,

624
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Speaker 4: he ended up being pretty limited for most of the afternoon,

625
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Speaker 4: injured his shoulder. Ended up with thirty eight scoreless yards

626
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Speaker 4: on ten touches. Meanwhile, Frank Gore was able to get

627
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Speaker 4: ninety rushing yards added in two receptions, only saw five

628
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Speaker 4: snaps from rookie Kalen Balach. Sorry if I butcher his name.

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Speaker 2: Who.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are high on the preseason, so

631
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Speaker 4: it's another team. Dolphins have a week eleven by but hey,

632
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Speaker 4: you know what they do with the number ten offensive

633
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Speaker 4: line that justin lanyards per rush. We have seen efficiency

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Speaker 4: in his backfield. It's just been a matter of you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a pretty even split between Drake and Gore. Oh boy,

636
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Speaker 4: if Kenn Drake is gone and we think Gore is

637
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Speaker 4: the guy, can you get behind this thirty five year

638
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Speaker 4: old running back in the twilight of his career.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, Frank gorey doesn't look thirty five.

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Speaker 4: I mean the guy's playing great.

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Speaker 1: So you know, for people that don't get a chance

642
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Speaker 1: to watch as many of the games, Adrian Peterson has

643
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Speaker 1: the better numbers, but Frank Gore is really the guy

644
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Speaker 1: that I feel like has looked more most impressive among

645
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Speaker 1: these kind.

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Speaker 2: Of older backs.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if Frank Gore is going to be

648
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Speaker 1: the guy, I think he definitely get behind him. The

649
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins offensive line has in the run game, at least,

650
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Speaker 1: it's been it's been decent. You know, there's so many

651
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Speaker 1: injuries that it's kind of hard to tell how exactly

652
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Speaker 1: it'll you know, be able to sustain. But I mean

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Speaker 1: today was another pretty good showing Gore. They were able

654
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: to do enough for Gore to get loose, and uh,

655
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing, there's nothing from watching him that

656
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: suggests that he's any worse than any other running back

657
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: that would be getting volume. I mean, so I would

658
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: definitely pick him up on waivers if he's again for

659
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: some reason drop. But this was a trend even before

660
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: you know this injury to Drake coming into last week,

661
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Gore got over eighty percent of the carriage.

662
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: He ended up with over twenty carries in a blowout loss.

663
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: So it's kind of been trending in his direction. Kenyan

664
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Drake struggling a bit in some pass protection, better receiver anyway,

665
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: So Adam Gates just has gone away from him in

666
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: the run game a lot. So I think Gore even

667
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: if Drake was on a team, you know, would still

668
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: kind of be pushing for these fifteen to twenty carries

669
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: a game. So definitely definitely turning himself into a viable option.

670
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we saw Miami backfield last season, you know,

671
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: a Jay left and then it was Drake and Damian

672
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: Williams kind of doing a committee for a while, and

673
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: then Williams got hurt. And we're in week twelve, thirteen,

674
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: and the season's almost over, and Gae was basically fine

675
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: with giving Drake this feature workload down the stretch, So

676
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: we know that's always a possibility in this late season

677
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: Dolphins fantasy situation. All right, Now, a couple of key

678
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: workload numbers from today. First one this Packers. I talked

679
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: about this a little bit earlier my best player of

680
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: the week, but it has been the Aaron Jones show

681
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: of late from weeks three to six. Jones was spended

682
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: the first two games this season, but weeks three to six,

683
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams playing thirty one snaspa game compared to only

684
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: twenty five for Jones. Last three weeks, we've seen Jones

685
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: get forty snapsh for game only twenty two for Williams. Chris,

686
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: I mean Jones. If you've watched these guys play once,

687
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: you know Jones is the better running back, the better option.

688
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: Are you convinced Mike McCarthy is finally just letting him

689
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: run away with this backfield?

690
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: I think so because this was another thing I remember

691
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: us discussing earlier in the year, maybe even preseason. Aaron

692
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Jones was a guy who Mike McCarthy just didn't trust.

693
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: It was simple as that, or maybe it was Aaron

694
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers that just didn't trust him, but somebody higher up

695
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: that has influenced in the Packers on the Packers offense

696
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: between those two guys did not trust Jones first pass

697
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: protection woes earlier in his career. And I think them

698
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: sending away Time Montgomery, who was you know, they're kind

699
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: of would all number one pass catching back, very versatile

700
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: guy that they did use in the backfield for about

701
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, a third of the of the snaps they

702
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: sent him away. I think that really showed that they

703
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: now do trust in Jones. And you know you mentioned it.

704
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: The talent was always obvious to see. He was the

705
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: guy always making the explosive plays. Jamal Williams really never

706
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: was the guy making the explosive play.

707
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean, very solid player. He had a couple of

708
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: good plays today.

709
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, Aaron Jones has that kind of upside to

710
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: give the Packers that running game dimension that they haven't

711
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: really had since young not too overly fat Eddie Lacy,

712
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Like the Packers now are all of a sudden, you know,

713
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: if they can, cause they've been running well all year,

714
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: they just haven't been running with a lot of volume.

715
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: If they can kind of add a running game to

716
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: what they're doing, and you know they have you know,

717
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: the scantling kind of coming along as a younger receiver.

718
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: They still have a Jimmy Graham still better tight end

719
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: than they've had in a while. You know, Mike Petton

720
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Like this could be a real dangerous team

721
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: go down the stretch. You know, I wouldn't necessarily want

722
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: to see the Packers right now. When you have a

723
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: team that could run the ball at a high level

724
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers at quarterback.

725
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can hurt you in a lot of different ways,

726
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: especially with the way these uh, some of these young receivers,

727
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: specifically mbs are stepping up.

728
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: And Davante I mean, like, let's not forget like like

729
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: we always you know, kind of talked about Jordi Nelson

730
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: and talked him up as this you know, red zone god.

731
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: And I mean really first it's really at Rodgers. But

732
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: like Davante Adams has has, you know, it seems like

733
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: every week it's just an automatic touchdown.

734
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't, I don't.

735
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I can't think of a player from week to week,

736
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: a pass catcher anyway, that has a higher touchdown probability

737
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: than Davante Adams. I mean he's on you know, like

738
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: early two thousands Gronk levels right now.

739
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: I want to say, the only guy with more touchdowns

740
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: than I'm over the last two and a half years

741
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: is uh Antonio Brown, which now that was with a

742
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: half season with Deshaun Kaiser. I mean, I was impressive

743
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: last year. I really see. Adams was the only guy

744
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: that offense that Yeah, even when he took away Rogers, No,

745
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: Adams was still a number one receiver.

746
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: Is Jordy Nelson still on the Raiders or like, is

747
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: he is he hanging up on a close pin somewhere

748
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: Dryan or is he still watch Like what's going on?

749
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: I haven't heard from him in a while?

750
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: All Right, Next, week the situational lookout real quick, Nick

751
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: Chubb and Duke Johnson. So Chris and I have been

752
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 4: talking about this one every week with the Browns since

753
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: Carlos High got traded. Last week new offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens.

754
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: We saw near evens snap split. Duke Johnson had nine targets,

755
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: tyder career having nine receptions. Everything was great. This week

756
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: we saw the Browns surprisingly really have some good Nick

757
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: Chubb game flow. They got up pretty early on the Falcons.

758
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: Chubb ended up out snapping Johnson forty two to seventeen.

759
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: He's been the lead running back this whole time. Johnson

760
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: still had four targets compared to three for Chubb. Chubb

761
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: made several trips the end zone. Duke made one trip

762
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: in the end zone, so they both still had a

763
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: plenty of fantasy points. Who doesn't against the Falcons defense

764
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: if you're a running back. But what are your thoughts

765
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: here on this Brown's backfield going forward? We have a

766
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 4: week eleven by but there'll certainly be relevant. We twelve

767
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 4: against the Bengals.

768
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is and like so most backfields

769
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: in that we're not a good majority of backfield. So yeah,

770
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I guess you could say most are kind of these,

771
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: at least the two headed monsters.

772
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: So I think this is just kind of what you're seeing.

773
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: I think this is a really good situation for Chubb though,

774
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: because he's getting nearly all of the carries out of

775
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: the backfield like he I believe it's forty two of

776
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: forty six carries since Kitchens took over, and that's just

777
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: going to give you a pretty high floor even in

778
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: negative game script because he's kind of been treated like

779
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: really the centerpiece of the offense. And I think you're

780
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: starting to see the Browns be a little smarter in

781
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: what they do as well since they fired you Jackson

782
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: and ty Haley. Because he's running back. Centric offenses can

783
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: really work and can really kind of help a quarterback

784
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: and can really also enable your other pass catches, your

785
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers and your tight ends to flourish a little more.

786
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: So we kind of saw, you know, guys like Rashard

787
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Higgins making plays today, and I don't think that's a coincidence.

788
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: When the defense has to worry about, you know, respect

789
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: to run, and then it has to also worry about

790
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: a guy with Duke Johnson coming out of the backfield,

791
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: and then you had Chrubb getting involved in the passing

792
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: game as well. So I mean that could have just

793
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: been because they're playing the Falcons, which every running back

794
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: in their mama seems to catch eight balls against the Falcons.

795
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: But I do think that this could be more than

796
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: like small sample of variants with the Browns in terms

797
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: of some of the success they're having on offense.

798
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: I think because they have a lot of talent at the.

799
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: Skill position, even with you know, losing Josh Gordon to

800
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots and whatnot. So I think this is really

801
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: a team that, you know, going down the stretch, could

802
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: be a very fancy friendly spotted if you like to say.

803
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: I mean, look, they have wins over the Ravens and

805
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 4: Falcons this year, and I think most people would agree

806
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: those are at the very least two average, two above

807
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: average teams. I think one other thing Evin Silva's mentioned

808
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: this year was this Brown's defense is talented, but they

809
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: were on pace to like play the single most plays

810
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: like in a seat and almost NFL history. I mean,

811
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: there's so much a defense new when you're on the

812
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: field all the time. So hopefully they can keep this

813
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: run game going just you know, give those guys like

814
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett that do have the talent to, you know,

815
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: get them the ball back, give them their legs back.

816
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll see what happens, all right, next

817
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 4: workload feature mentioned a little bit with your best Core

818
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 4: play earlier, but David Johnson starting to look a little

819
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: bit more like the guy all the fantasy owners fell

820
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 4: in love with back in twenty sixteen. Weeks one through

821
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: seven with Mike McCoy offensive coordinator, we saw Johnson only

822
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 4: had four point three targets per game, only had twenty

823
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: three receiving yards per game during that stretch. Last two

824
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: games with Byron Leftwich calling the shots, we've seen that

825
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: go up to six point five targets per game and

826
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: averaging sixty three receiving yards per game. This has come

827
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: against the forty nine Ers in chiefs. But I'll tell

828
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: you what, Chris, I mean, his upcoming schedule really isn't

829
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: that much harder. What are your expectations for DJ here

830
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 4: in the second half of the season.

831
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm expecting him to be not quite back to twenty

832
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: sixteen DJ, but some kind of like an average of

833
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: what he was pre left with and twenty sixteen DJ

834
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like, you know, because the thing

835
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: about it is, this offensive line is still very bad,

836
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: and I believe Johnson has the worst success rate in

837
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: the league. And this is something that you know, we

838
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: should we should probably start talking about it. Like when

839
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: we say, you know, a running back like averages this

840
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: amount your yards per carrier or running back averages this

841
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: success rate, it's really not the running back accounting for

842
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: all of that by himself. It's really like a lot

843
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: of the offensive line, and like the running back is

844
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: averaging this running behind in this situation, because I think

845
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: I said before the season, if any running back that

846
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: was being drafted in the top five was likely to

847
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: have a Todd Gurley twenty sixteen type of season, it

848
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: was David Johnson. And that was just because the offensive

849
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: line was, you know, didn't look very good coming into

850
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: the year either, and it kind of played out that way.

851
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing holding him back a little bit.

852
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be able to always

853
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: post such gaudy rushing numbers. But Byron Leffige got hired

854
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: or prom rather pretty much because his predecessor didn't use

855
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: David Johnson enough. So This is exactly what I said

856
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: to Friedman on the Friday Pot is that when you

857
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: get your job, your position that you're in because your

858
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: predecessor made a very obvious cheat mistake that's easy to

859
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: correct and turn around. Like, the odds are that you're

860
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and do that, And so I think

861
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see David Johnson with more targets going forward,

862
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: even though target rate does fluctuate, so it could be

863
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of noise, but we have a clear

864
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: reason to believe he's in line for an uptick.

865
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, I think that Girlly example is perfect. I mean,

866
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 4: is there a more clear example like that we have

867
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: had ever? Then you can have one of the most

868
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: talented running backs in the entire league. Everyone realizes that,

869
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: everyone accepts it. But if you ask him to run

870
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: into eight man boxes the entire game with no decent

871
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: creative scheme, he's not gonna be able to do much.

872
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: So I feel like that's what Johnson was kind of

873
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: facing in those first seven weeks. And now, yeah, it

874
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: might not be high flying twenty sixteen offense again, but

875
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: at the very least, maybe we won't be running straight

876
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: into the teeth of the defense every play. All right,

877
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 4: Next up, we'll go over the Monday night football matchup.

878
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: We got the Giants visiting the forty nine Ers at

879
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 4: the Nick Mullins Era has the forty nine Ers sitting

880
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: pretty as three point home favorites. The over under is

881
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 4: up to forty five points a star on the forty

882
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: nine Ers, So Raheem Mostert's out for the season. I

883
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: had a nasty broken arm last week. That leads us

884
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: with Matt brad and al Ford Morris. Of course, Kyle

885
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: Yastcheck is the full back and playing sixty four percent

886
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: of snaps the season as a pass down guy. How

887
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 4: are you approaching this forty nine Ers backfield against the

888
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: Giants defense that I'll tell you what. Once they got

889
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: rid of Damon Harrison, I mean, we should be targeting

890
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 4: this run to moving forward.

891
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think this sets up very well for

892
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: Matt Brata.

893
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: I think that the one concern with him is that

894
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: Kyle ust Check is essentially playing the passing downs and

895
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: that kind of killed some of the a little bit

896
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: of the ceiling for Brita just because he's not necessarily

897
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: like his target here this year. For you know, I

898
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: talked about hunts is around is around nine percent and

899
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: kind of last year with Scolle percent, Brita is is

900
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: is only at five percent. That kind of shows you

901
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: that he's not really has not really been involved as

902
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: much in the passing game, and that is a function

903
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: of use check getting some of those downs and and

904
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: blocking or catching a short pass that would normally be

905
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of throw away, easy stat padding for

906
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: a running back that's getting Brita's type of volume. But

907
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: I think Brita is still kind of a this week,

908
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: especially a you know, a mid range RB two play

909
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: for Monday night.

910
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: Definitely viable in DFS.

911
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Sol though is a little is a little priced up

912
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: not if you look at our DK showdown models.

913
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: I believe he actually is.

914
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: He has the worst projected plus minus, so not the

915
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: greatest value, but does have a ton of upside. Always

916
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: has been kind of outperforming what you would expect given

917
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: his volume, and his tape always backs it up. So

918
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: I would have some confidence as a as a home

919
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: favorite back against this this Giants defense, especially with a

920
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: quarterback like Nick Mullens, who the bottom mind is, even

921
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: though he had this big coming out party against the Raiders,

922
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is not just gonna want Mwens out there

923
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: throwing a ball like forty forty five times a game.

924
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: So I think I think you're gonna see I mean,

925
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: he was using essentially four running backs when when he

926
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: could these last few games when you count Youse Check

927
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: and then Moster, Morris and and Brita. So I think

928
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Brita with a good amount of workload.

929
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: But I think you're probably gonna see Morris factor backing

930
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: as well, because I think Kyle Shanahan would like to

931
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: get to like thirty thirty five carries in a game

932
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: if he couldn't kind of, you know, protect Mowens and

933
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: and keep his defense off the field.

934
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: It's hard to believe. At one point we looked at

935
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: this backfield and could just say, Jack McKennon, great, this

936
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: is gonna be fun.

937
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, that seems so long ago. Oh man.

938
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's look at the receivers here. Pierre Garson has

939
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: already been ruled out with a knee injury. He led

940
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 4: the team of five targets and Mowen's first and only

941
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 4: game under center. In that game, we saw Kittle also

942
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 4: George Kittle off four targets. Markeith Goribwin had four Richie

943
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: games a slot receiver three targets. Garzone and a Goodmen

944
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: were the starting receivers in two wide receiver sets. Richie

945
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: James came in as a slot. He was the only

946
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: on forty percent of snaps we saw. Dante Pettis and

947
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne only see twenty percent snap shares. Trent Taylor

948
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: seems like the kind of guy that would potentially replace

949
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: Garzone on the roster, but he's a slot receiver, so

950
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: he's not really going to be taken those outside snaps.

951
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: Seems pretty clear that Goodwin and Killer of the top

952
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: two here, Do any these other guys interest you or like,

953
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: how are you approaching this pass game? Yeah?

954
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: I think you got to take a fire on Kendrick

955
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: Bourne here.

956
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean I think if Kendrick Bourne is available in

957
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: your league, you go pick him up, because he seems

958
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: to be the guy that continues to make plays when

959
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: they put him out there. His snaps fluctuate, but anytime

960
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: one of the receivers, one of the starters, whether it

961
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: has been good Win or Garsong this year, has missed time,

962
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: Bourne has seemed to be the guy that's kind of

963
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: stepped up in and made a play. He's the guy

964
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: that when he's in there, he's getting targeted. So he

965
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: needs the team in targets per snap, and what that

966
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: means is that even if his snaps played don't look

967
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: all that impressive, like last week, I think he played

968
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: twenty two percent, but he caught a touchdown. It's like

969
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: when he's in there, he's in there to run routes

970
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: and catch the ball.

971
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: For the most part.

972
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that Born, if anyone is going to kind

973
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: of step up outside of you know, Goodwin and Kittle,

974
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: who you mentioned, I think it's going to be Born,

975
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: especially because again they're using youth check a lot as

976
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: as like a blocker in the passing game, so the

977
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: running back is not necessarily kind of hogging as many

978
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: targets as it would in some of the other offenses

979
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: around this league, and that that does leave a few

980
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: more targets available for some of the receivers running the route.

981
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: So I think Bourne is the guy that that should

982
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: take the flyer on good stuff.

983
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: Well, keep an eye on Born moving forward. Switching over

984
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 4: to the Giants, so we know we're again with the Giants.

985
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham Jr. He's on pace for career highs and

986
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 4: receptions and yards despite Elon Mannings you know at times

987
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: and competence. We've seen Saquon Barkley, you know, really have

988
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: his way. I wouldn't say have his way. He's good

989
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: for a long run of game and then I'll kind

990
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: of keep the yards for carry up high enough, but

991
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: he's getting all the checkdowns. He can handle past them.

992
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: Though.

993
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: We have Evan Ingram and Sterling Shepard, but obviously their

994
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: roles aren't quite as ingrained as Barkley and Obj. What

995
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on this past game offense from Monday night?

996
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those situations where you know

997
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: where the ball's going and it's really about who of

998
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: the you know, the other two guys steps up because

999
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna get from Saquon. You know

1000
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: what you're going to get from Odell most weeks, even

1001
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: if it's not a blow up spot, he's usually going

1002
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: to give you a decent number of catches. But I

1003
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: think Sterling Shepherd has really kind of established himself as

1004
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: that clear number three guy, even with Evan Ingram, you know,

1005
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: back healthy again. So even though Ingram has put up

1006
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: some numbers too. I think Shepherd is probably the higher

1007
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: upside play. He's at eighteen percent target share for the year.

1008
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: He's got twenty three percent market share of the air yards.

1009
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: And the Giants really don't target there, you know they have,

1010
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean talk about Chris Connedy, they they're wide receiver.

1011
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: Three has been kind of where you go to where

1012
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers go to die. I mean, you have you

1013
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: have was it it's being it was being manned by

1014
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Cody Latimer.

1015
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: H Cody Latimer.

1016
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: Gave way to Russell Shephard, gave way to Benny Fowler.

1017
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: I mean, if that is not like if there are

1018
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: ninety six starting wide receivers in the league, if that's

1019
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: not number ninety four, number ninety five, and number ninety six,

1020
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's not ninety four, ninety five, ninety six,

1021
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: it's number ninety three to ninety five with Chris Conley

1022
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: is ninety six. But now who actually Jordan Nelson's gotta

1023
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: be But.

1024
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Like Corey Davis was kind of going in that direction

1025
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: to the last weeks.

1026
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: But no, yeah, so it's it's like that it's for

1027
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: fantasy purposes and DFS purposes.

1028
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's ideal.

1029
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: And you know, just forty nine is are a team

1030
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: that usually plays the tight end well when they are

1031
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: healthy on defense, when they have Ruben Foster, and when

1032
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: they have Jekusky Tart their safety those.

1033
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: Guys are it looks like Foster.

1034
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: Is not playing and Tart his status is up in

1035
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: the year as well, So the matchup is solid for

1036
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Ingram as well. But you know, I think Shepard is

1037
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: still the clear, the clear third guy in this offense.

1038
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: Man, we're gonna see those download numbers, see if we

1039
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: lost the subscriber and that subscribers could be Jordan Nelson.

1040
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: After speaking of guys that may or may not be

1041
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 4: washed Eli Manning, oh boy, maybe should even be a

1042
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 4: question here. But I was surprised. I mean, look at

1043
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: is a just stats over the year. He's still for

1044
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: over three hundred yards and three of the last four

1045
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: games he's averaging two hundred and ninety seven pass yards

1046
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: per game, which I think speaks more to the you know,

1047
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 4: kind of changing offense around the league than anything. Manning's

1048
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: might particularly be doing great. But hey, you know, he's

1049
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: averaging seven point five yards per attempt sixty eight percent completion.

1050
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: These are all better numbers than he's had in recent years.

1051
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: And then we got sacks. He's been sacked the league

1052
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: high thirty one times. He took thirty one sacks in

1053
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: fifteen games last season, so this is the same total

1054
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 4: he's had an eight games so far, just hasn't had

1055
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: the time. But I mean, if you watch the games,

1056
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: obviously it's much more than that. And Eli is hardly

1057
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: you know, a consequence of his surroundings. He's got plenty

1058
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: of talent, skill positions. What do you make at Eli

1059
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 4: Manning here? And I mean, I guess how do you

1060
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: approach him in a daily fantasy point where you know

1061
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: he has all his talent around him, and it's hard

1062
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: to be so high on Obi Jyes, Saquon and not

1063
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: behind the quarterback, right.

1064
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's definitely the correlation there, and that you know,

1065
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: it's going back to his yards per attempt. I mean,

1066
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen in the NFL, passing yards are cheap.

1067
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: The league average in yards per attempt this season is

1068
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: seven point five. So even at that seven point five number,

1069
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Eli is not actually above average.

1070
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: He's just averaging.

1071
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: For comparison, last season, it was seven point oh, so

1072
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: that tells like that's a huge increase. It's usually around

1073
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: seven oh SEVENE seven to two somewhere in that range

1074
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: over these last few years, even with the kind of

1075
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: offensive explosion since you know, the early part of this

1076
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: decade with the rule changes and you know, not letting

1077
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: defenders do as much to the receivers near the line

1078
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. So you know, we're seeing a whole other

1079
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: kind of explosion in terms of numbers, and that's bringing

1080
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: some of these bottom of the barrel quarterbacks up.

1081
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: But you know, I think.

1082
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Eli at the end of the day, it's he's going

1083
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: to work for a check, and he gets to work

1084
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: and he just put in uncomfortable situations that he can't

1085
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: really deal with, and so he's just kind of coping

1086
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: the best way he knows how, which is when there's

1087
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: somebody open, he just gets rid of the ball as

1088
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: fast as he can, and when when there's not, he

1089
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: just goes down in a heap and takes a stack

1090
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: or it goes down before even gets hit, so he

1091
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have to take the sack because he's old, you know,

1092
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't you know, the offensive line is not good

1093
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: at all, So it's not like they're not doing him

1094
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: any favors, And I mean that's really that.

1095
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: It's it's really kind of squooky to watch.

1096
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like if Odell and Saquon stay together, they're

1097
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: gonna definitely be sitting around have a conversation when day Like.

1098
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: Yo, remember when we played with the ghost of Ui Manning?

1099
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Like how weird? Like it's like, how do you have

1100
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: two players that good?

1101
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Like I can't remember the last time a team had

1102
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: two players this good on offense and was this bad

1103
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: like U Teams like that win a few games they're

1104
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: not supposed to, just because the sheer variants, you know,

1105
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: like just guys like me and I guess the Giants

1106
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: kind of did do that against the Texans.

1107
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: They Yeah, they beat the Texans twenty seven to twenty two.

1108
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: They lost the Panthers thirty one thirty. Yeah, at least

1109
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 4: had some offense. But other than those two games, they've

1110
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: been twenty points or less in every game this season.

1111
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Right, So it's like it's racked my memory to think

1112
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: of a team with two players like this could like

1113
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: these are legitimate. I mean, sat Quan already is like

1114
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: establishing himself as a top five back in this league

1115
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: just with with the explosive players.

1116
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it reminds me of Pittsburgh, Like when Roethlisberg

1117
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: gets hurt and we see Landry Jones come in for

1118
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 4: a week or two, cent Rolsburg can beat Eli. Though,

1119
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

1120
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: There, yeah so yeah, So it's uh, you know, as

1121
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: far as fantasy, I mean, you just kind of keep

1122
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, it makes for a good tournament playing DFS

1123
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: because I think everyone kind of feels the same way.

1124
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: You know that you kind of a wounds about ELI,

1125
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: which is like he's washed and he is washed, but

1126
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: it's easy to get passing in today's NFL. I mean

1127
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: we've seen Derek Carr with that. I think he put

1128
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: up a four hundred yard game earlier this year. You

1129
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: mentioned Trubisky, who's not exactly you know, he's not exactly

1130
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but he's putting up monster games. So the

1131
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: issue with EUI is really that he can't move around.

1132
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: And I think in this day and age, you really

1133
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: need a quarterback that can move around at least a

1134
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: little bit, because if you can just do that and

1135
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: buy a little extra time, usually one of the receivers

1136
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: can kind of come open. Given especially given the rule

1137
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: changes over the last few years. But because of EUI

1138
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: can't do that, he's kind of relegated to when there's pressure,

1139
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: essentially the play's over.

1140
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean it all flows together.

1141
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: I mean all the sacks aren't on Eli, but they're

1142
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: also not all on the offensive line as well. Pretty

1143
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: tough when you got to protect the guy where you

1144
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: know the defensive ends can just continuously pin their ears

1145
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: back and not have to worry about a running threat.

1146
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: All right, We'll move on to Thursday night football real quick.

1147
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: So we got the Packers visiting the Seahawks. Seahawks or

1148
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: three point favorites open at two and a half, but

1149
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 4: they got that extra half point bomb potentially after that

1150
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: impressive performance against the Rams today Russell Wilson had him

1151
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: down inside the thirty or forty yard line with a

1152
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: chance to win towards the end. So good stuff there

1153
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 4: from Pete Carroll and co. Forty nine point five point

1154
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: over under Christy. We've talked a little about the Packers

1155
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: wide receivers already, but I guess what are your thoughts

1156
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: here on the Seahawks backfield just kind of game in general,

1157
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: on how you're going to approach this.

1158
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: So it's going to be interesting.

1159
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: We'll see if Chris Carson is ready to go, maybe

1160
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: they kind of give him this game off too and

1161
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: let him, you know, give him a bunch of time

1162
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: that he would have will.

1163
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: Be like two and a half weeks or so to

1164
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: have rested, So.

1165
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: They might end up not putting him out there for

1166
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: this one, even though he was a game time decision.

1167
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: But if he's not out there, I think, you know,

1168
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: we finally sold a shot Penny kind of come through

1169
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: and break out, and it really speaks to I think,

1170
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Salari and the job they've done that

1171
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: he's done with the Seahawks offensive line, replacing Tom Cable

1172
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: as that offensive line coach. Do remember, you know Tom

1173
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: Cable just had them like there was like a meme

1174
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: or a gift for something where it was just like

1175
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: all five of the seah missed the cut well it

1176
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: was in the passing game, but all five seas like

1177
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: missed the cutlock at the same time on the offensive line.

1178
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: So it's just like five offensive linemen on the floor

1179
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: like one of those old Madden like Madden ninety six

1180
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: when it was just like right is like and it's uh,

1181
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: it was kind of crazy, and now it's like been

1182
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: a complete turnaround. The offensive line is playing better all around,

1183
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: and you've really seen that in the running game, where

1184
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Like last year it was like, no matter who they

1185
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: put in their backfield, they couldn't really get anything going.

1186
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: And this year, don't matter who they put in their backfield,

1187
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: they're going for one hundred yards. So I think that

1188
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: you got you have to kind of have some faith

1189
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: in the Seahawks running game.

1190
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: They have been running the ball.

1191
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: You know, they lost their first two games, they were

1192
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: pretty kind of standard pass run ratio. Since then, it

1193
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: has just been ridiculous. I mean they've they've run over

1194
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: two hundred times. I think coming to this week that

1195
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: they had over two hundred runs and they'd only passed

1196
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: the ball one hundred and fifty something times. And you

1197
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: know they've had a couple of losses mixed in there,

1198
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: they're still run the ball at least thirty times and

1199
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: all those losses, you know, they are committed to the

1200
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: run and they're doing an excellent job at it. So

1201
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: that's what you're going to see out of them. I

1202
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: think first and foremost is them just try to run

1203
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: a ball. The Packers came into this week ranked number

1204
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: twenty six in run defense. DDA talked about how Frank

1205
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: Gore was looking good out there against Green Bay. So,

1206
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: Mike Davis, I think if Carson is out, he's he's

1207
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: going to be a really good option. He ended up

1208
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: catching a touchdown today. And then Rashad Penny's going to

1209
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: mix in behind him, and he was impressive as well.

1210
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: So I think you're going to kind of see a

1211
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: two headed backfield, but both of them are going to

1212
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: be viable because again, this is a high, high volume

1213
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: running team. Even in negative game script then they're good

1214
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: at it. So they're not getting into like a super

1215
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: super negative gamescrip where they're say down like you know,

1216
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: twenty eight to nothing or something like that, because they're

1217
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: they've had.

1218
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: So much success with the runner.

1219
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Then Russell Wilson has been kind of maximizing his efficiency

1220
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: on like low volume. He's getting multiple touchdowns every single

1221
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: week pretty much. So you know, the Seahawks are kind

1222
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: of a dangerous team too, Like this game is going

1223
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: to be a really good game. Like these two teams

1224
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit underwhelming in the win lost column,

1225
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: but the Seahawks have lost to the Rams twice.

1226
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: The Packers also lost the.

1227
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: Game to the Rams, so their records don't look good,

1228
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: but these teams are among the better teams in the

1229
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: league in Santas.

1230
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like both these teams. I feel like

1231
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: people believe that they're capable of so much more because

1232
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: of Rodgers and Wilson, and even though they're maybe not

1233
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: achieving that, because they have Rodgers and Wilson, they're never

1234
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 4: out of any game and they're continuing to compete. Big thing.

1235
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm kind of looking forward throughout this week and we

1236
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 4: don't have this information yet, but we'll come in as

1237
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 4: a week goes on. But this Packers secondary is really

1238
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 4: banged up, especially after today Kevin King won. Their starting

1239
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: corners was already out going into the game, but Shad

1240
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: Breelan won. Their backups got hurt, Ken Schell Bryce, their

1241
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 4: safety got hurt, and Yaya Alexander, their stub cornerback, also

1242
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: got hurt. So a bunch of problems. They're going in

1243
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: a Green Bay secondary that has really been a lot

1244
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: better this season. So that's what I'm keeping my eye

1245
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 4: on there. Chrisn final thoughts here.

1246
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, the Seahawks continue to kind

1247
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: of have those the top three wide receivers the locket

1248
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: Baldwin and David Moore, and Nick Vinette continues to outsnap

1249
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: be more involved than Ed Dixon. He got the red

1250
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: zone target today. I think Ed Dixon got stopped inside the.

1251
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: Ten as well.

1252
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of it's kind of tough with Seattle

1253
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: because they're spreading the ball around. But David Moore kind

1254
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: of still been a guy that's getting a ton of

1255
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: air yards, so I think he's a he's gonna be

1256
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: a good play this this week in DFS.

1257
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised to look at the target share

1258
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 4: on air yards since Baldwin's been back and it's basically

1259
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: just a three wide receiver committee there. Yet we continuously

1260
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: see David Moore price you know, one thousand bucks cheaper

1261
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 4: than the other two. So always good to remember the splits,

1262
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: you know, when we have everyone healthy in action. All right, everyone,

1263
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: thank you for listening. We're gonna wrap everything up now

1264
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: with a weekly bet. I'm hoping one of these weeks

1265
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: to come to you all with a triumphant you know,

1266
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: victory dance or speech or something. But oh man, Chris

1267
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: continues to rack up the w's, although last week it

1268
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 4: was only via the players, as I decided to take

1269
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: the under in that Cowboys Titans game that ended up

1270
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 4: just going over, while Chris took the Cowboys and obviously

1271
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 4: the Titans one by fourteen. Chris chose Dak Prescott, who

1272
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: hadn't had two passing scores definitely how scored Zekiel Elliott,

1273
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: who I believe only had four or five touches the

1274
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: entire second half, So wasn't great for me. Wasn't great Cowboys.

1275
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of these player wins with like

1276
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: the underdog player too. Did not get a win with

1277
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: the was like odell O or saw. It was something

1278
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: else that was like not the easiest one. But I

1279
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: think I'm just getting lucky with these like second options.

1280
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 4: I'm getting like the chalk pick I wanted, and you're

1281
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: just kind of pivoting to the smarter move, and hey,

1282
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: you know it's working out for you. So I have

1283
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: no trash to talk. I'm getting my butt handed to me.

1284
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 4: But that was weeks one through ten and we're onder

1285
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: week eleven now, so we're looking at a Monday Night's

1286
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: matchup Giants at forty nine erso.

1287
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: Highest score on draftings in this game. I mean this

1288
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: is yeah, I think it was last time with like

1289
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: a giant style think I took Uh. I think I

1290
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: took Odell over Saquon.

1291
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: This time, I think I'm going going with Saquon. I'm

1292
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: going with Saquon. I think it's Odell will end up

1293
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: running you know, some of his routes. On Richard Sherman,

1294
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: the ball just has not been going that direction for

1295
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: a large part of this year. So I'm gonna I'm

1296
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna roll with Saquon and just that that ridiculous target chair.

1297
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty good call there. I'm gonna I'm gonna take

1298
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: obj Uh, don't have this is not enough market share

1299
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: touches on the forty nine ers side of the ball

1300
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 4: to feel too good about anything over there.

1301
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I really thought about taking George Kittle,

1302
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: like because it's drafting so he could easily hit that.

1303
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: Hundred yard bonus.

1304
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's done it a ton,

1305
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: But I think I think I gotta go with the

1306
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: with the Chuck oh Man.

1307
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, like you said, though, I mean so

1308
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: one thing on Richard Sherman Yeah, he hasn't traveled and

1309
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: two we saw I think it was a I'm trying

1310
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: to think the last.

1311
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: Opponent, Rosen the Cardinals.

1312
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rosen was kind of the first guy to throw

1313
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 4: at Sherman all year. And guess what, really, I mean,

1314
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: he has some success. We all kind of wrote Sherman

1315
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 4: off coming in this year, coming off too Achilles surgeries

1316
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: and just kind of against these speedier guys, it seems

1317
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 4: like he's a guy that could get beat. I mean,

1318
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: he's played well obviously, hasn't given up many touchdowns. But

1319
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if that is because guys I just kind

1320
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: of have that respect factor at Richard Sherman. We don't

1321
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: throw at him because he's Richard Sherman, not because he's

1322
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 4: necessarily still this great guy. I think Odell Beckham Junior

1323
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 4: is the guy they're gonna throw at him regardless, and

1324
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 4: maybe he can expose that. But we'll see.

1325
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Odell can expose any matchup. I don't think

1326
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, I don't think that's a good question.

1327
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, against the spread, I'm gonna go with

1328
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers minus three. I'm gonna ride to

1329
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: Nick Mullens, hype, have no idea what's going on with

1330
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 4: this Giants team, And I will take Kyle Shanahan in

1331
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: this matchup. What you got I am.

1332
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the under here.

1333
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: You know you kind of kind of mentioned it, Eui

1334
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: Madding and the Giants have been under twenty points most

1335
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: of the year. I think who they play, the Falcons

1336
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: and what they barely got to the you know.

1337
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: I think they they didn't even get to did they

1338
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: did they hit over in that game? I don't even

1339
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: think they did.

1340
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 4: I don't think so it was like in the low twenties, I.

1341
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: Believe, yeah, So like you can't like put up a huge,

1342
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: huge number against that Falcons defense. I don't think that

1343
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna go crazy against this the forty nine ers team.

1344
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: And I think on the other side, you're gonna have

1345
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: Nick Mullens, and I don't think he's gonna be under

1346
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: too much, too much duress or anything. I think they're

1347
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna actually be able to control the ball a little bit.

1348
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: And I don't think Kyle Shanning is gonna want to

1349
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: again take too many chances with a quarterback that's so inexperienced,

1350
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: so all that kind of leads me, especially with the

1351
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: over ender kind of popping up.

1352
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: They opened at forty four.

1353
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: It's been bet up a point, and I know that's

1354
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: because you know, people have confidence, you know, after everyone

1355
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: saw Nick Mullens and then Giants moving players on defense,

1356
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: which is understandable. But I think that forty four is

1357
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: probably the right line, and that's just just a little

1358
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: bit of a Recncy bias.

1359
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm taking that value on the under.

1360
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: All right, thank you everyone for tuning in. This has

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01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 4: been your Week ten recap and Week eleven look ahead

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01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 4: from the Action erak NFL podcast. I mean a heart,

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Speaker 4: it's Chris. Any last words, Let's get ish money.