Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast is bully backs, skies out thighs.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's happening for Welcome to another
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan hans As.
Speaker 1: I come to from a virtual room build with some heroes.
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal Mark Sessler. All right, I mean I know
Speaker 1: what that's about. It's about showing off the thigh in.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a little trend. Like I got
Speaker 1: some new shorts. They were kind of like a little long,
Speaker 1: little you know, Adam Sandler old school basketball Baggi style.
Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't the way it is anymore.
Speaker 1: You want to be showing off those upper upper thighs
Speaker 1: that meet someone is asking for you to do that
Speaker 1: for them, Greg, clearly, not my clearly, not Emica who's
Speaker 1: buying the shorts, but that I want to show it off.
Speaker 1: I see the cut there, that's say, it's a shorter
Speaker 1: cut that's in though Mike was very fall looking while
Speaker 1: you were showing a little bit of a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're watching this on YouTube, which you should, for
Speaker 1: that for that moment alone, that we apologize. Um No,
Speaker 1: the shorts are are shorter. Now, that's what s where
Speaker 1: society is going. And uh and I did like that reference, um,
Speaker 1: Greg because Adam Sandler dresses like a ridiculous person, especially
Speaker 1: when he plays basketball. But I envia it does remind
Speaker 1: me we all, or at least I dressed like that
Speaker 1: like like that when I was playing middle school basketball.
Speaker 1: It's fun to look it is, but six years later.
Speaker 1: But no, um, all right, here we are here, We
Speaker 1: are at the precipice of a brand new football season.
Speaker 1: We've been inching in this direction. We you know, returned
Speaker 1: to two podcasts a week last week. We had the
Speaker 1: network show last week that all went well. Uh, And
Speaker 1: now we're back with a full week of shows once again,
Speaker 1: and this time training camp is upon us. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've already had a couple of teams report and the
Speaker 1: NFL network is pumped up about this because starting Saturday,
Speaker 1: NFL training camp coverage starts on the network back together Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's called all thirty two teams on the field, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna have reporters all over the place, and I
Speaker 1: don't they're not sending us anywhere. I'm not anywhere at all.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it shows how deep the roster is that there
Speaker 1: they are literally at every single camp for Saturday. So
Speaker 1: they actually got all the teams to agree to this,
Speaker 1: not only that they're practicing, because all the teams report
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and they start kind of, you know, doing
Speaker 1: the little pathless practices early in the week. Everyone promises
Speaker 1: pads Saturday, real practices all thirty two teams. Who needs
Speaker 1: to watch water polo when you can see some good
Speaker 1: old tackling. But that means they have enough quote unquote
Speaker 1: talent at the NFL network to populate thirty two different
Speaker 1: locations and still not there a call to us and
Speaker 1: seem very up about this. But I would view it
Speaker 1: as um somewhat ominous that we weren't even it wasn't
Speaker 1: even a suggestion that we'd be included in the coverage.
Speaker 1: I'll take my last couple of weekends with the family
Speaker 1: and or go to the beach or with you guys.
Speaker 1: So whatever we're gonna do with it, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: While if they're giving it to me, I do wonder
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, I feel like when we do
Speaker 1: go to these league events, um, whether it's the owner's
Speaker 1: meetings or you go to the super Bowl and we're
Speaker 1: at Radio Row and we get the chance to interview people.
Speaker 1: We just made news a couple of weeks ago, as
Speaker 1: you recall with an Baker. Yeah, with Baker, and it's
Speaker 1: like Bubba Baker, and it's like, you know, get us
Speaker 1: out there, put me in coach. Hey, well we're working.
Speaker 1: That's fine, we got a job. We've had some good
Speaker 1: updates on the network show for the season that we'll
Speaker 1: let our listeners here about later. So I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do like that. There's no excuse this year, Dan,
Speaker 1: because you always point out that year the Lions owed
Speaker 1: up late. Um, you know, some people thought it was
Speaker 1: because their preseason game was the latest. But now they
Speaker 1: got everyone to come in on the exact same day,
Speaker 1: start practicing. You know everyone's coming in Tuesday. That it's
Speaker 1: not in the Hall of Fame game officially. That's a
Speaker 1: podcast started snitching on these teams. And I want you
Speaker 1: to go back in the archives and find one team
Speaker 1: that we called out for showing up to camp late,
Speaker 1: and then tell me if they hoisted the Lombardi come February.
Speaker 1: I mean, show me when the lines, you know, last
Speaker 1: one a playoff game, please, it's because they don't report
Speaker 1: on time. All right, Enough of that Malarkey. Big show
Speaker 1: coming up today. It's a big news show. As we
Speaker 1: predicted last week. The the trickle began uh last week
Speaker 1: and now it's a full on waterfall of news around
Speaker 1: the NFL and it's going to continue. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of exciting for us. We waited through the off season,
Speaker 1: Um did the grinding and now we get to talk
Speaker 1: about some real football news. So without further ado scissor,
Speaker 1: you want to get in to it, I I we
Speaker 1: have no choice but two. I mean there's like eighty
Speaker 1: eight news items. So proceeding alright, hit the news, Ricky,
Speaker 1: the Mark Sasler freedom toward Look at the freedom disappearing Mark?
Speaker 1: That is that's a tough sitch for you. And I
Speaker 1: really want to know who's screaming there. You have two
Speaker 1: young sons, so it's not them, Is it Simon or
Speaker 1: is it someone else? It was a female? Um, I'll
Speaker 1: need to do more investigation on that. It threw me
Speaker 1: as well. But it is over. It is here we go.
Speaker 1: We're diving in. See it come up for air come February.
Speaker 1: Ricky already trying to again on us before we started
Speaker 1: about her thirtieth birthday falling right before the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year, as if we're going to start rallying around
Speaker 1: that date and start planning something, families, kids, a full
Speaker 1: football season, unrest at the company. I'm going to do
Speaker 1: my best to be at the event, but it seemed
Speaker 1: like she wanted us to organize. Now, I mean, attendance
Speaker 1: is all you could really ask of us. I mean,
Speaker 1: I do I understand that, like especially women when they
Speaker 1: you know, maybe some guys. It's no, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that this is this is not you know, it's not
Speaker 1: in an accusation. It's just an observation. Oh No. When
Speaker 1: women get into their thirties, it's like their birthdays become
Speaker 1: not a day, but it's like not even a week,
Speaker 1: but multiple weeks of celebrations and parties where it's like
Speaker 1: slow down just a little bit. Now, this one Erica's special.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. We will do our best to
Speaker 1: be there. Reggie, this is just ridiculous because I'm just
Speaker 1: saying my thirtieth birthday, it's a very big birthday, happens
Speaker 1: to be, you know, the Thursday, Friday before Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it on your radar. Now. We will
Speaker 1: be going to Mexico or you know, I'm thinking Cancoon
Speaker 1: the weekend after and just putting it on your radar. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys have families. You can't just you know, drop
Speaker 1: and leave. So you know, letting you, you old men, plan,
Speaker 1: because you guys need the time. You made us very aware.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I was I mentioned before the show, this
Speaker 1: is the difference between Ricky's generation and and hours Um
Speaker 1: or me and and Greg Mark is more of the boomers.
Speaker 1: Not accurate. But on my thirtieth birthday was the middle
Speaker 1: of a recession, and I was deeply unemployed, and I
Speaker 1: sat in a in a bar in Bay Ridge, New
Speaker 1: York and Brooklyn called the Wicked Monk, and had had
Speaker 1: a pint of beer, and I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the hell I was gonna do, as New
Speaker 1: York was rejecting me over and over again, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what am I gonna do? And it was
Speaker 1: shortly after that that I dug out an old business
Speaker 1: card out of my wallet of an old friend who
Speaker 1: was working out in California at the NFL. And the
Speaker 1: rest is history. So perty Ricky is a time of introspection.
Speaker 1: But I want to just say to you, Ricky, you're
Speaker 1: doing very well where you are in your life. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and you were doing well then too. You know,
Speaker 1: it all led to well, I had Emily with me,
Speaker 1: my beautiful wife, and that and that was a major
Speaker 1: part find someone and don't let go. Let's get to
Speaker 1: the news. Well, according to you, when I was thirty,
Speaker 1: was watching the Statue of Liberty being built. I'm not
Speaker 1: that much older than you. Anyways, you were part of
Speaker 1: the Americans that were lobbying with the French about how
Speaker 1: to to ship the statue over all, right, here we
Speaker 1: go Aaron Rodgers. Oh my god, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: This we're rat This tweet from Ian Rappaport shortly before
Speaker 1: one pm Eastern time today, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has
Speaker 1: indicated to people close to him that he does plan
Speaker 1: to play for Green Bay this season. Sources say that
Speaker 1: is the expectation many factors at play. Ian tweets but
Speaker 1: with g M. Brian Gutagans saying he is quote hopeful
Speaker 1: for a positive outcome that out of a shareholders press
Speaker 1: conference meeting thing that went down today, there is a
Speaker 1: glimmer of optimism and market and it feels like and
Speaker 1: there are a lot of unhappy people in the building
Speaker 1: in Green Bay that if you just get the big
Speaker 1: guy back where he needs to be, everything else to
Speaker 1: fall into place for the packers. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess for us and anyone tracking this for entirelessly for months,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, why did why? What did? What?
Speaker 1: Did you just drag us through this this absurdity? Um?
Speaker 1: But you know that it was an interesting couple of
Speaker 1: days too before these tweets came out today, there was
Speaker 1: the um the Last Dance um CO tweet by Davante
Speaker 1: Adams and Aaron Rodgers, which I think people were like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Well, but why did people say
Speaker 1: what did that mean? I thought that was a very
Speaker 1: clear response and I and granted I wouldn't have, like,
Speaker 1: you know, bet my house on it, but it seemed
Speaker 1: to be like I'm coming back, dummies, like that was
Speaker 1: it We're gonna do that you're familiar with that would
Speaker 1: suggest that I think, I mean it was a pretty
Speaker 1: strong suggestion. I saw, like, you know, Pro Football Talk
Speaker 1: was like, why are they sending out these things that
Speaker 1: are big mysteries? And they were just feeling dumb because
Speaker 1: they sent out a whole post that said how Vegas
Speaker 1: like took down the bets and it was a stupid
Speaker 1: thing to talk about, you know, people, somehow a rumor
Speaker 1: got started, like late last week that like that he
Speaker 1: wasn't coming back and they took it down in Vegas
Speaker 1: and it was stupid to aggregate that, you know, it
Speaker 1: was stupid to talk about that. That meant nothing and
Speaker 1: UH and Rogers like immediately responded like, I like Greg
Speaker 1: you know, as you get farther away from his p
Speaker 1: f T days and his blogging days in NFL dot com,
Speaker 1: he's the aggregation police and he will tell you whether
Speaker 1: or not you have been successful in your attempts. By
Speaker 1: the way, and it's true about the last Dance and
Speaker 1: people should remember this because everybody watched that UH miniseries
Speaker 1: last year in the middle of the pandemic. UH. And
Speaker 1: I read the book as well, which was highly recommended
Speaker 1: by Chris Wessling himself, And go look at Chris Westling
Speaker 1: book sports book recommended atitions. I will retweet it if
Speaker 1: you want to see some of them. But the story
Speaker 1: of the Bulls and that Jordan era was the toxic
Speaker 1: relationship between Jordan and his GM, and it was Jerry
Speaker 1: Krauss with the Bulls was so ugly and have so
Speaker 1: rooted an ego on both sides and money of course
Speaker 1: that Jordan's made it official that they were going to
Speaker 1: be breaking up. This was his last season there. Uh.
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson, the coach at the time, also he was
Speaker 1: walking away after that season, and it was very well known,
Speaker 1: hence the last dance that this was it. So this
Speaker 1: is what Tavante Adams and Aaron Rodgers potentially see is
Speaker 1: their last season in Green Bay. And frankly, it makes
Speaker 1: sense right Mark, because you do have Jordan's love there,
Speaker 1: you do have an aging quarterback, you have a lot
Speaker 1: of bad blood. Make this the last go around and
Speaker 1: see if you can get it done. And because you're
Speaker 1: also attached to a very talented team that's one regular
Speaker 1: season games over the last two years, I think the
Speaker 1: system is good for Aaron Rodgers, Like, why what is
Speaker 1: the other option? Because I think, you know, unless a
Speaker 1: trade becomes less and less of a possibility at this point,
Speaker 1: this late in the year, so are're gonna sit out
Speaker 1: the season? I think that you, yeah, you go for
Speaker 1: it one more time. You you were minutes away from
Speaker 1: making the Super Bowl and go ahead I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just say I think if you're Aaron Rodgers, like
Speaker 1: your que rating tumbles, if you walk away from football,
Speaker 1: I mean you have a lot to prove. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a player that's won one Super Bowl when
Speaker 1: you love you love playing football. If you Arearon Riders,
Speaker 1: ultimately it's like what are you really out here on
Speaker 1: earth to do? You know, you only have a couple
Speaker 1: more years you want to. It's not like he's not competitive.
Speaker 1: You know, you can just look at his results and
Speaker 1: and know how much he wants to do it. And
Speaker 1: he did his best to get something out of this
Speaker 1: whole mess, and he made it clear where he's at.
Speaker 1: I suspect that he will get something official from the
Speaker 1: Packers in exchange for showing up, and whether that's a
Speaker 1: little bit of money, but more likely some kind domination
Speaker 1: of money and more importantly a guarantee that he can
Speaker 1: be a free agent after this season. Um I I
Speaker 1: don't know how they do that exactly, like the structure
Speaker 1: of their contract, or they just tell him that whatever
Speaker 1: it is. I think he's gonna it's gonna be his
Speaker 1: last dance in a way that it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: for that's not gonna be Davante adams is choice to
Speaker 1: be his last dance. I don't think like Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: They have the franchise tag for him next year. That's nice.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be Rogers and Um Adams together one
Speaker 1: last time. But like Scottie Pippen, I you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna be up to Davante Adams
Speaker 1: whether it's his last dance. I do think, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: why we wasted all this time Mark, and we you
Speaker 1: know we did you In terms of the media, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get that like he's gonna get something where it's
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady basically knew he had his freedom in
Speaker 1: his last season in New England if you wanted it,
Speaker 1: and this will just be a little more public. I
Speaker 1: think the one thing with Rogers that still is out there,
Speaker 1: along with any money size, is that the Packers are
Speaker 1: run differently than other teams, and he is displeased with
Speaker 1: how the to run. And he looks at what Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's experienced over the last year and how much say
Speaker 1: he has in Tampa and how much pull he had
Speaker 1: last year and bringing certain players there that Rogers doesn't
Speaker 1: have that. I think that is that is, I thought
Speaker 1: his his feelings at its at its core, that Jordan's
Speaker 1: love draft pick was such an agregious lack of respect
Speaker 1: showed to him that it poisoned the relationship with a
Speaker 1: famously touchy superstar athlete. I I didn't. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: it being about why don't I have more power in
Speaker 1: this organization in terms of personnel? But maybe maybe I
Speaker 1: missed that. I mean, there are there are like reports
Speaker 1: out there along those lines that he is, you know,
Speaker 1: with the way the organization has treated him, and it's
Speaker 1: not that different than sort of what happened to Brett
Speaker 1: Farve down the stretch to some degree there obviously you know,
Speaker 1: little parts of it that are different. But Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is not happy inside the Packers organization. Primea River. Aaron Rodgers, like,
Speaker 1: you really think you're part of a dysfunctional organization when
Speaker 1: you've won twenty six regular season games? List, Who's I mean,
Speaker 1: we can't we can't keep going over this, but my
Speaker 1: level of sympathy for Aaron Rodgers is nonexistent. Great the
Speaker 1: point you made, if there's going to be some type
Speaker 1: of concession made between the Packers and Rodgers to get
Speaker 1: him on the field. I could see that. I don't
Speaker 1: see it going as far as them letting him out
Speaker 1: of the contract after the year, because he's just way
Speaker 1: too valuable as a trade asset to get them to
Speaker 1: the next phase of their organization if they do move on.
Speaker 1: But maybe it's a handshake agreement that we will move
Speaker 1: you in a trade we promise and won't pull any
Speaker 1: of that you're reporting uh to our camp because we're
Speaker 1: not trading you business that he got hit with this year.
Speaker 1: I thought the Packers have really handled this well, frankly,
Speaker 1: considering how how you know the t n T laid
Speaker 1: in all around the organization. I feel like they've said
Speaker 1: the right things overall UH to keep this from getting
Speaker 1: to a total divorce breakdown point. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be like a lot of trust though, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna have have to be something very specific. You
Speaker 1: raise A great point is like, why would they want
Speaker 1: to give up him at the possible eight assets UH
Speaker 1: that he could get. That's complicated. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: have a I don't have a good answer for that,
Speaker 1: but I did find it interesting that again PFD and
Speaker 1: this this was, you know, very interesting reporting to see
Speaker 1: this weekend that like the Broncos and other teams. It's like,
Speaker 1: were they really gonna give up three first or whatever
Speaker 1: it was gonna be plus And here were some specific
Speaker 1: numbers being thrown out of what Rogers probably wanted, which
Speaker 1: was ninety guaranteed over two years, which basically the mahomes
Speaker 1: average but guaranteed for about two years. Um and and
Speaker 1: I and you keep hearing these things of like, well,
Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't about the money with Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: like I get that and stuff. But I bet if
Speaker 1: they had offered him ninety guaranteed over the next two years,
Speaker 1: he would have taken it. So you can say it's
Speaker 1: not about the money, but it's partly about the money,
Speaker 1: because the money could have fixed it. And I don't
Speaker 1: think the Packers were particting. I think what they've shown
Speaker 1: is they were not interested in fixing it in the
Speaker 1: way however Aaron Rodgers had wanted, which would be like
Speaker 1: going back to this never happened. They were not interested
Speaker 1: in that. Uh. Speaking of superstore star quarterbacks with uncertain futures,
Speaker 1: NFL Networks, Tom Pellisero reports the Texans are willing to
Speaker 1: trade Deshaun Watson and could be seeking three first round
Speaker 1: draft picks and exchange for the quarterback. This comes after
Speaker 1: an earlier report from rap Sheet on Monday that Watson
Speaker 1: is expected to report to Texans training camp. He has
Speaker 1: not been put on the Commissioner's exempt list as of
Speaker 1: right now. Of course, a police investigation into sexual misconduct
Speaker 1: allegations against Watson remains open. Twenty two law suits against
Speaker 1: him are pending, so that is still he could end
Speaker 1: up on an exemple list. I imagine he could be suspended,
Speaker 1: He could go to prison. We don't know what could
Speaker 1: happen here. The outcomes are all over the place. But
Speaker 1: Watson is doing his due diligence. From his standpoint, he's reporting, uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't catch catch any finds from the Texans,
Speaker 1: and it also from his standpoint is murkiest things are.
Speaker 1: It advances towards his goal of ending up on a
Speaker 1: new team. Uh. This is a step towards that you
Speaker 1: get in the building and hopefully somethings starts shaking loose. Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: you smartly brought this up last week of like Something's
Speaker 1: got a break. You know, when we talked about it
Speaker 1: on our TV show, and he is by the time
Speaker 1: we've reported this, he he did show up and rap
Speaker 1: she or Tom Pellisera, I forget which one was, you know,
Speaker 1: said you know he was polite or they used that
Speaker 1: word or something like they didn't. He wasn't like you know,
Speaker 1: breaking down things in the in the you know, lobby.
Speaker 1: But he's made it clear through his representatives he's still
Speaker 1: wanted off the team. And it just felt like, well, this, okay,
Speaker 1: he made the first move and that made sense from
Speaker 1: his perspective, but this was the morning that like that
Speaker 1: suddenly it just was put out there. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the team pushing this or it's Rotson
Speaker 1: or it's both. They're kind of on the same page
Speaker 1: here that they want him to be elsewhere that it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: here's what we want. We want like full price for
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. And um, you guys, like, by the way,
Speaker 1: not the last three or four months, Like has it
Speaker 1: been long enough that you guys forgot about that, because
Speaker 1: like nothing's changed, Like nothing's changed, and and both Tom
Speaker 1: and I and I was really surprisedly like editorialized and
Speaker 1: said like this is how much they'd want and that
Speaker 1: he that like that's like and he'd be worth it,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like and I was, I'm just thinking,
Speaker 1: like what are we deciding here? Like, think of all
Speaker 1: the first of all, think of the like the women
Speaker 1: that are hearing these reports that he's worth it when
Speaker 1: you have these sexual assault cases pending, Like what what
Speaker 1: have we gone through the last four years here? If
Speaker 1: like we're doing that and how people are gonna see
Speaker 1: that sort of news that we've basically ignored it when
Speaker 1: it's it's totally pending, nothing has been settled. If this
Speaker 1: is all after the suspension and or after he's settled
Speaker 1: these cases, okay, then you start moving on and talking
Speaker 1: about like what is it is next for Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: But in my mind, it's like we're we're putting hey,
Speaker 1: what is the you know, the hey in front of
Speaker 1: the barn? I don't know what it is, but it's
Speaker 1: crazy to me that we're doing that. We're the horse
Speaker 1: in front of the barn that's spoking like a true farmer, Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in such a murky place that like, even
Speaker 1: from a pure football angle, like I don't think the
Speaker 1: Texans are in a great position to ask for what
Speaker 1: they're asking on any level, But like, how does another
Speaker 1: organization show any overt interest in trading for a player
Speaker 1: in the situation is even if you want to say, look,
Speaker 1: he's signed through what then maybe it's a really rough
Speaker 1: first year. But if you want that asset, you go
Speaker 1: get it. But I just think that from an organizational standpoint,
Speaker 1: how do you explain that to the women in your organization,
Speaker 1: um to anyone to your fan base, that we're bringing
Speaker 1: this guy in. It's the Texans problem right now, and
Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite that easy just to dish
Speaker 1: it off onto someone else, even as good as the
Speaker 1: player is. It's just sitting in too weird of a place,
Speaker 1: you know. I think what with with the reporting here,
Speaker 1: I think it all again goes back to everyone is
Speaker 1: kind of uncertain how to even approach this situation and
Speaker 1: it's such a big story involving such a high level
Speaker 1: player that you I guess you're as a football news
Speaker 1: breaker like Tom and E and R. You're you're putting
Speaker 1: it out there that there are conversations potentially happening with
Speaker 1: teams and the Texans at this point, and what the
Speaker 1: value of the trade was but then like, how do
Speaker 1: you how do you combine that element of the story
Speaker 1: with the very real situation involving these very serious allegations.
Speaker 1: It's it's just very messy, and it has been from
Speaker 1: the start. And one thing for me, like, now you
Speaker 1: think about the Texans, if the Texans have now decided
Speaker 1: because they were earlier this offseason not about it. There
Speaker 1: they did not want to trade to John Watson, they
Speaker 1: knew he wanted out, but they had hoped with their
Speaker 1: new power structure in place, that maybe they could can
Speaker 1: vince the superstar was twenty six years old to stay
Speaker 1: home and happily ever after for everyone. If they now,
Speaker 1: if they've now resigned themselves too, we don't we don't
Speaker 1: have a future with this guy, Like why are you
Speaker 1: even having him in the building, Like what can't you
Speaker 1: say to him? Listen, we won't find you, but don't
Speaker 1: come in because one is his one is his presence
Speaker 1: in that building. In terms of David Culley, first year
Speaker 1: head coach, whos waited his whole life for this opportunity.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about distractions, I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: lowest stay there to be in that building is taking
Speaker 1: first team reps, Like, what what are we doing here
Speaker 1: with Shaun Watson in that building with everything that's going on.
Speaker 1: If you're a starting quarterback, there are requirements. It's for
Speaker 1: media availability. Do you do we want to Shaun Watson
Speaker 1: in front of a microphone talking to people? I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree more with you on that front. I mean to me,
Speaker 1: it's just the It was one of the utmost awkward
Speaker 1: um updates of the off season to find out that
Speaker 1: he is now back in the building working with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I just I was driving my car and nearly went
Speaker 1: off the road. I didn't unders and this was happening,
Speaker 1: Like maybe and maybe this is his way and his
Speaker 1: representative Obviously this is all pointed out of pushing the
Speaker 1: Texans or the NFL too not let him in the
Speaker 1: building to say, Okay, we're not going to take away
Speaker 1: your pay, but stay away and and we'll see. Maybe
Speaker 1: that is maybe that's how it plays out. But this
Speaker 1: whole like, Okay, now he's for sale. This is how
Speaker 1: much he'd cost three first round picks plus and any
Speaker 1: and it should be that much for that calor okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to go to this should be then saying.
Speaker 1: Then I say no, like, like, first of all, are
Speaker 1: you putting a like a first round pick price on
Speaker 1: like a serial sexual assault cases? Like does the the
Speaker 1: your your picks change based on someone who is in
Speaker 1: the process of being a serial sexual assaulter. I guess
Speaker 1: that's what you're kind of saying. And then I would say,
Speaker 1: when it's when it is unsettled, if you do want
Speaker 1: to go there, then no, like you're not the same guy,
Speaker 1: you don't have the same value. If if someone was
Speaker 1: gonna if some team was gonna be bold enough, whatever
Speaker 1: word you want to use to do it now when
Speaker 1: everything it's uncertain, no, man, like everything about you and
Speaker 1: your value has changed. So I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: get it, and I don't think I don't think teams
Speaker 1: would be that And my last my last thought on it.
Speaker 1: And if you remember this feels like a million years ago,
Speaker 1: but very early on, before the allegations came to light,
Speaker 1: but after he had uh leaked to the media that
Speaker 1: he wanted out of Houston. I remember the Jets popping
Speaker 1: up right away in a news report that he would
Speaker 1: go to the Jets and all this and everybody fans
Speaker 1: like me, were you know, rubbing our hands together all excited.
Speaker 1: Jets obviously went in a different direction now with a
Speaker 1: number two overall pick. But you hear team the Eagles,
Speaker 1: you hear the Broncos, you hear the Dolphins, all connected
Speaker 1: potentially to a trade if you're a fan of those teams.
Speaker 1: And this isn't even a judgment zone, I'm just I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: I'm legitimately curious if you want to Shaun Watson on
Speaker 1: your team or if this is a guy all this
Speaker 1: stuff around him, you don't want him anywhere near your team.
Speaker 1: I kind of think I know the answer, even if
Speaker 1: some people won't say it out loud. But that's different
Speaker 1: different opinions, and in the fan base it's going to
Speaker 1: be split, but there are going to be people that
Speaker 1: would say, yes, they do right. I think. I think
Speaker 1: it's a totally fair thing to ask, and I think
Speaker 1: different people in the organization and fans would feel differently
Speaker 1: about it. But here's what I think is in arguably
Speaker 1: that there would be a more uh consensus when everything
Speaker 1: is settled like that, there will be a consensus of
Speaker 1: what to do next year or whenever this is settled,
Speaker 1: And in the meantime, you're bringing it on yourself. Yep.
Speaker 1: Maybe just hit pause. Maybe just hit pause. In other news,
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones great pass rusher, It's been great for years
Speaker 1: and with J. J. Watt now in the building in Arizona,
Speaker 1: you have a great bookend set up there for the
Speaker 1: Cardinals to beef up their pass rush in one However,
Speaker 1: ESPNS Jeremy Fowler reported Sunday that Chandler Jones has requested
Speaker 1: a trade from the Cardinals. Uh Arizona, according to ESPN,
Speaker 1: does not want to move the star pass rusher. They
Speaker 1: expect him to report to camp Um. However, they would
Speaker 1: save a ton of money if they did trade him.
Speaker 1: Fifteen and a half million. Uh so you can't rule
Speaker 1: that out. He's aged thirty one. I believe he missed
Speaker 1: most of the last season. Uh am, I correct there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he played five games. I think, um, but still a
Speaker 1: guy that a lot of teams would take a chance
Speaker 1: and I think to regain his form. He's not too old.
Speaker 1: Mark your thoughts on Chandler Jones, Well, I guess it's
Speaker 1: it's a shame because the concept wasn't just you know,
Speaker 1: let's get a latter stages. J J. Watt. It was
Speaker 1: pairing Jones and Watt together and Son you look at
Speaker 1: that defense very differently, and it wasn't his best year
Speaker 1: last year. But Chandler Jones has been really consistent, and
Speaker 1: I think someone that if you're a Patriots fan, you're thinking,
Speaker 1: why did we get rid of this guy? Because he
Speaker 1: really was great in Arizona. But you know, for me,
Speaker 1: it's like put me in carbon Nite and wake me
Speaker 1: up when we find out what happens because some of
Speaker 1: these little well just some of this business where it's like,
Speaker 1: you know all the ins and outs, Um, if he
Speaker 1: gets traded, great, tell me what happened, tell me where
Speaker 1: he goes. We did talk about this one back in
Speaker 1: umar Greg it was it is one of these few
Speaker 1: ones and I throw Xavian Howard and there too that
Speaker 1: I I do think there's a chance that Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: is traded for a draft picked or whatever it's going
Speaker 1: to be before the season. I just it depending on
Speaker 1: how much of a stinky wants to make about it.
Speaker 1: And now we're finding out that he really does. And
Speaker 1: it goes back to the DeAndre Hopkins contract. Reportedly that
Speaker 1: when they brought in Hopkins and gave Hopkins all this
Speaker 1: money without him playing it down for Arizona. When Hopkins
Speaker 1: had like three years left on his deal, Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: was like, I've been wanting this deal for a while, bro,
Speaker 1: and I think it would be easier to trade if
Speaker 1: not for that one month of play he had last
Speaker 1: year happened to be like maybe the worst month of
Speaker 1: his career. And it's such a small sample size, but
Speaker 1: he was not like an impact player for about four
Speaker 1: or five games, and then he tore his biceps, which
Speaker 1: is not an injury you worry about long term, but
Speaker 1: that does cloud the picture a little. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: like the Ravens or the Dolphins or some team would
Speaker 1: like be like, you want a second round pick for Jones,
Speaker 1: We'll do it today. But I I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Cardinals would be like, you definitely have twelve to
Speaker 1: thirteen players on every roster who are quietly stewing over
Speaker 1: what someone in their own position room makes. I mean,
Speaker 1: this stuff has to be going on all the time.
Speaker 1: Happens in real jobs. I'm gonna say it happens everywhere.
Speaker 1: Um And for what it's worth, Jones was, according to PFF,
Speaker 1: highest graded edge rusher in I was gonna say, you
Speaker 1: said second round pick is obviously uh, My New York
Speaker 1: Jets have not had a premier ed rusher since John
Speaker 1: Abraham blah blah blah blah blah blah blah two thousand
Speaker 1: and six. But I don't know, maybe a third round
Speaker 1: i'd give up. Maybe I could of saying if I'm sure,
Speaker 1: unlike a lot of these guys, when this comes up,
Speaker 1: I am sure that multiple teams would give up a
Speaker 1: pick firm. I don't know if it's second or third
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I think they would give a shot,
Speaker 1: give him two or three years, guaranteed money, and hope
Speaker 1: for the best. Uh. In other news, Michael Thomas, the
Speaker 1: star wide receiver of the Saints. His season was completely
Speaker 1: wrecked by an ankle injury suffered way back in Week one.
Speaker 1: Ankles continued to give him issues and he had surgery
Speaker 1: in June and UH as a result of the rehab
Speaker 1: that comes after a serious UH surgery to repair the
Speaker 1: ligament damage in there, he could be missing the start
Speaker 1: of the regular season and he could potentially miss significant
Speaker 1: time and this latest from New Orleans Football's Nick Underhill
Speaker 1: said that Thomas will need six to eight weeks for
Speaker 1: the ligament to heal, and again the surgery was in June,
Speaker 1: and then another six to eight weeks to get it
Speaker 1: in shape. He can run and cut effectively. Closed quote,
Speaker 1: you do the math there, I'm not doing it great,
Speaker 1: But if you do the math there, who knows? Maybe
Speaker 1: he's coming back in October. Um and is he the
Speaker 1: same guy you worry about an injury like this, Well,
Speaker 1: this one was on your radar a little bit, uh, Cessler,
Speaker 1: wasn't it that the mic there's like spend some behind
Speaker 1: the scenes were not totally thrilled with Michael Thomas talk
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know, obviously the like punching the
Speaker 1: teammates a great thing. Getting you know, getting suspended for
Speaker 1: a big game by your coach, that's probably a bad sign. Stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: And then there was some like delaying of surgery. Perhaps
Speaker 1: in this case he had he had multiple surgeries this offseason.
Speaker 1: He um, he had surgery elsewhere in January, and they
Speaker 1: and supposedly according to PFT, they kind of wanted him
Speaker 1: to get the ankle thing, but he was told he
Speaker 1: could maybe rehab it, and then he gets it in June,
Speaker 1: and now he's gonna miss five weeks this season. He
Speaker 1: didn't look great last year either. It's it's a lot,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I'm with you. I think that the
Speaker 1: the Michael Thomas experience has probably gone off a cliff
Speaker 1: a little bit over the last calendar year. I mean,
Speaker 1: for all the things you mentioned, but I look at
Speaker 1: the team too, and like one thing that I think
Speaker 1: I mentioned our TV show, Sean Payton, I think he
Speaker 1: likes challenges. He wants uh, he's like, look at I'm
Speaker 1: up for it. I'll take Jamis Winston and fix him. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll turn a you know, a jack knife player into
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback if I need to. But there isn't
Speaker 1: a lot going on here at this wide receiver position,
Speaker 1: like Trey Kawan Smith, Deontay Harris. I like Deontay Harris,
Speaker 1: Marcus Callaway, little Jordan Humphrey. But suddenly it's like Alan
Speaker 1: Kamara is gonna be catching a ton of passes. And
Speaker 1: you know my guy Adam Troutman, who I like, I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't really he didn't get He wasn't put into
Speaker 1: a role last year as a big pass character. He
Speaker 1: was more of a he can do that. He did
Speaker 1: it in college. But now you're asking to do it
Speaker 1: right away. So this offense to me is some shaky scenarios.
Speaker 1: And if you're the Bucks, you're thinking absolutely your quarterback
Speaker 1: has gone. Your roster's in the in a bizarre place.
Speaker 1: We're the Tampa Buccaneers. We're gonna eat you. I totally
Speaker 1: forgot about the Lil in front of Jordan Humphrey, and
Speaker 1: I think you'll lose the little. It definitely sounds the
Speaker 1: most of any player in the NFL, like a name
Speaker 1: Mark wrote made up. I really like it. I thought
Speaker 1: you've been condescending it first, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: wait a second, and then it rang the bell that
Speaker 1: he is. Indeed, he goes by little Jordan Humphrey and uh.
Speaker 1: The reason I say it is an entertainment. Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring up an example. Little bow Wow, Little bow Wow, huge,
Speaker 1: huge rapper, boy, rapper of his time. And then then
Speaker 1: he started to grow up, and I think he had
Speaker 1: a conversation with Snoop or somebody and they were like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: God will lose the lil if you want to age
Speaker 1: into the next demographic. So he did, and bow Wow
Speaker 1: ended up having hit songs with the likes of Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's wife. We don't have any issues with bow Wow, isn't.
Speaker 1: I mean as a name is also questionable. I think
Speaker 1: so he goes to Snoop for the name change advice.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just his master p, his dad, his
Speaker 1: master p. That's but I believe he has an association
Speaker 1: with Snoop. Snoop was part of I think I think
Speaker 1: he was his football coach or something. Snoop was part
Speaker 1: of the crew too. He was in the limit. It's
Speaker 1: worked for. It's worked for Little Wayne and another New
Speaker 1: Orleans guy. Um, you know Little Wayne. He's kept it
Speaker 1: little Little Wayne. I'm you know, we've never sounded uh whiter.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do love I do love the idea
Speaker 1: of Little Jordan Humphrey being like a key part of
Speaker 1: this offensive. I mean the names are crazy. Trackwan Smith
Speaker 1: is like their number one ride receiver by far. Wait second,
Speaker 1: it's back to the Little Wayne. Little Wayne is like
Speaker 1: four ft tall. He's legitimately a little man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a descript stick right. I'm said maybe I would
Speaker 1: would if i've I will venmo you seventy five dollars
Speaker 1: to go into your onto Twitter and change is your
Speaker 1: name for one week to little Dan Hansas and don't
Speaker 1: make any comment about it. Don't say anything about it
Speaker 1: to anyone. I could be like little Geog, little g works,
Speaker 1: little little six ft little sixty. Yeah, I'm a little man.
Speaker 1: I'm probably about the same height as little Wayne. So
Speaker 1: according to Wikipedia, little Wayne is five ft five, but
Speaker 1: you know, you usually add a couple inches the entertainers,
Speaker 1: so he's probably five three you do, I'm five six
Speaker 1: of you round up, but it's more like it's three quarters,
Speaker 1: you know, right there. And I'm just saying Jordan Humphrey,
Speaker 1: I'm more I'm more confident in him. And by the way,
Speaker 1: when you're six ft four or little Jordan Humphrey six
Speaker 1: works very well. This team could stink, right, couldn't the same?
Speaker 1: Think Jamis has got You're gonna have a good offensive
Speaker 1: line and running game in theory, But that is it
Speaker 1: is really adding up the degree of difficulties scale because
Speaker 1: I was already worried this defense might totally collapse, which
Speaker 1: is which has happened for the Saints defense under Dennis
Speaker 1: Allen before. It's been a few years, but I thought
Speaker 1: the defense might be pretty bad too. David Anyr Mada suspended,
Speaker 1: Marsha Marshaw a lot a lot of more potentially suspended.
Speaker 1: You have a complete unrested quarterback. Michael Thomas is a
Speaker 1: is a wreck right now. It's the recipe is there
Speaker 1: for I was gonna say seven and nine, but let's
Speaker 1: say eight and nine. Oh man, I mean I think
Speaker 1: the recipe in a worst case scenario is there for
Speaker 1: like six and eleven. I mean, I could see it
Speaker 1: either way. But I was reading Football Outsiders the Saints section,
Speaker 1: and I noticed, like as much as we made fun
Speaker 1: of Drew brees Is, like their offense did move the
Speaker 1: ball like he was still somehow in the top ten
Speaker 1: in per play, Like they picked up they were boring
Speaker 1: to watch. They were not he was not like a
Speaker 1: great quarterback, but like they were still like a borderline
Speaker 1: top ten offense, Like they have a long way that
Speaker 1: they could go down in terms of productions. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: all on your boy. I don't really like um, you know, Teddy.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Teddy, you root for the root for players.
Speaker 1: Jamis I think is better than people. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: believe that he's a better He's a better player than
Speaker 1: he's been given credit for it. But I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he's gonna like come in and save save the world.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about big Ben before, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the reasons why, I know you just like
Speaker 1: big Ben is some of the off the field things
Speaker 1: that happened in his life. Well, Jamis had some unfortunate
Speaker 1: situation and I'm not talking about the Crabs. No, You're right,
Speaker 1: there were some off right issues. But I did dust
Speaker 1: off the old I wrote something about Jamison. I put
Speaker 1: him in making the leap anyways here and here I
Speaker 1: am talking. I did break out the old stat um.
Speaker 1: I just love always checking this. In yards per attempt career,
Speaker 1: he's tied for fifth all time, so he's you know,
Speaker 1: and he started seventy games. That's not in a small
Speaker 1: same so he's ahead of like Matt Ryan, He's ahead
Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford, He's ahead of Tom Brady. So I'm
Speaker 1: just what is he leaping to. I mean, he's been
Speaker 1: like a conduct to starter, improving from one year to
Speaker 1: the next. You know, this is the first time I
Speaker 1: ever was just picked one per team and it gets
Speaker 1: it's like him or Troutman, and you you stole Troutman
Speaker 1: on the TV show Troutman. All right, Uh, we gotta
Speaker 1: do it. It's that time of the show. It's that
Speaker 1: time of world history COVID talk. We'll start with the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Coach Frank Reich has tested positive for COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's been vaccinated. Reich said in
Speaker 1: a statement the following I'm fortunate to be fully vaccinated
Speaker 1: and I'm asymptomatic. I'm feeling well and I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to returning as soon as I'm medically cleared. He can
Speaker 1: return to camp as soon as next Monday, according to
Speaker 1: Colts GM Chris Ballard. So that is good news. The
Speaker 1: bad news is he tested positive for CODE even though
Speaker 1: he got the he got the shots. But that is
Speaker 1: popping up here and there um in other COVID news.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna goel through it. Then we can react
Speaker 1: to all of it. Terrell Pryor remember him, the former
Speaker 1: quarterback turned wide receiver. Uh, he said that. Uh. He
Speaker 1: tweeted on Saturday night that he has a tryout lined up,
Speaker 1: but he was told that he can't take part in
Speaker 1: the tryout unless he's vaccinated, and he had this to say. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm torn between tough decision and finally, in the news
Speaker 1: late last week we U it was reported that Vikings
Speaker 1: coach Rick Dennison UM had been let go because he
Speaker 1: would not get the COVID nineteen vaccine, which would take
Speaker 1: him out of the class group that would allow you
Speaker 1: to be in team meetings and and be able to
Speaker 1: be forward, front facing with the players. So he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of the team. Well, that's been
Speaker 1: reported after the fact to be a little bit premature
Speaker 1: that he's out this uh from the Vikings. The Vikings
Speaker 1: continue to hold discussions with offensive line coach Rick Dennison
Speaker 1: regarding protocols. At this time, coach does not have an
Speaker 1: exemption to the vaccination requirements of those protocols. We will
Speaker 1: adhere to the requirements of the protocols and of applicable law.
Speaker 1: But it's well, there's different rules, you know, and you
Speaker 1: mentioned it with the coaches, um, we should point out,
Speaker 1: you know, with the players. There was some clarification in
Speaker 1: that that latest memo that brought up the forfeit. How
Speaker 1: you know, if you are vaccinated and then you once
Speaker 1: you start testing negative again, you can return to practice
Speaker 1: in the team quicker than if if you were unvaccinated.
Speaker 1: These are all fact that the Patriots did lead let
Speaker 1: go of a coach that has not been disputed. His
Speaker 1: name is Cole Popovich, no relation to to Greg who's
Speaker 1: been there for a while and was like, there, you
Speaker 1: know a co offensive line coach and he refused to
Speaker 1: get the vaccine. Uh, It's it's pretty obvious with like
Speaker 1: a player at the end of the roster that teams
Speaker 1: aren't gonna mess around. Like it doesn't surprise me with
Speaker 1: prior and I just I just hope that like every
Speaker 1: time something like right pops up and it's gonna keep
Speaker 1: popping up because players who have been vaccinated are going
Speaker 1: to test positives, Like do we need do we need
Speaker 1: to have a huge Twitter argument like every time this happens,
Speaker 1: Like this is gonna happen, Like it's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be part of it. It just is. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: Schefter noted that thirteen staffers and four players who were
Speaker 1: vaccinated have caught coronas, so it's gonna be happening all year. Um,
Speaker 1: it's something I think we just weren't really expecting a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. It's we're not out of the
Speaker 1: woods on this but it's this is a little bit
Speaker 1: to me different than just the based argument of whether
Speaker 1: you should or should not be vaccinated. I mean the NFL,
Speaker 1: the life of an NFL player and what your mission
Speaker 1: is and what your job is as a team and
Speaker 1: a group of coaches is singular. You're there to win
Speaker 1: a title, and I just think it is it is
Speaker 1: a overt disadvantage if you have a bunch of players
Speaker 1: or people that are refusing to do it because it's
Speaker 1: like your week number one. Coaches want consistency, They want
Speaker 1: the same thing every week. They don't want surprises. Last
Speaker 1: year they were just daily surprises because of Corona. But
Speaker 1: if you got fifteen to twenty players refusing to take
Speaker 1: the vaccination, then you're asking for muddled um, you know,
Speaker 1: muddled scenarios where players are suddenly kept popping up with Corona.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the same thing as last year. And
Speaker 1: the cults, you know, they this is not a Frank
Speaker 1: Reich thing because he's vaccinated. They have only their players
Speaker 1: right now that are vaccinated. Keep them out of that,
Speaker 1: you know. And for everyone who's trying to use this
Speaker 1: as a point of like whoa Either way, it's you know,
Speaker 1: they're keeping Frankreich and anyone who's vaccinated catches it out
Speaker 1: of the billion to protect the unvaccinated. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what it's about right now. It's protecting unvaccinated people and
Speaker 1: trying to just keep them safe, whether whether they're in
Speaker 1: the bill they or not. In a little a personal
Speaker 1: note here, I have a very good friend UM down
Speaker 1: here in Texas, UM who works. He's a frontline medical worker.
Speaker 1: He works as a nurse and Um he worked said
Speaker 1: a major hospital in Waco, Texas, and he said, the
Speaker 1: last few weeks it's it's feeling like it's back to
Speaker 1: where it was last July. And he comes to work
Speaker 1: and he works at twelve hour shift and it's an
Speaker 1: entire e er filled with people that have COVID and
Speaker 1: he says the large majority of them almost entirely unvaccinated,
Speaker 1: people that refused to get the shot and now are ill.
Speaker 1: And the one other note that he he added was
Speaker 1: a he's seeing it in younger people between this year
Speaker 1: and last year. And this again, this is coming directly
Speaker 1: with someone that's on the front lines. Is when he
Speaker 1: was in the working in those drs in Waco last year,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of older people, and what he's
Speaker 1: seeing now is the the disease is now hitting a
Speaker 1: younger demographic. And he was with a younger guy that
Speaker 1: he said he was with him all all day the
Speaker 1: last shift he was on that it looked like he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna make it. And it's a young man who
Speaker 1: refused the vaccine, got sick and now could die. Um,
Speaker 1: this is a very scary thing and it's ongoing, and
Speaker 1: I know everyone a big part of it. Even this
Speaker 1: friend of mine is he leans in a different direction
Speaker 1: than I do politically on this and morally on some level. Um,
Speaker 1: but the the idea of not getting the shot, it
Speaker 1: puts you at greater risk of getting sick and dying.
Speaker 1: It's just it's there. And talk to people that are
Speaker 1: on the front lines and they'll tell you that even
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what their political beliefs are, it's just
Speaker 1: it's the facts of the facts. So tough sich, as
Speaker 1: they say, Ricky's thirtieth birthdays, as you say, always a
Speaker 1: sharp right turn to another update there? Hey really yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully I mean hopefully like this. So this super Bowl
Speaker 1: is in l A. I mean, there is something about
Speaker 1: the Olympics where they're trying to, you out, make it
Speaker 1: as good as possible for the athletes, because it's not
Speaker 1: the athletes fault. They've been training so hard and these
Speaker 1: are great moments. But there is something about the fact,
Speaker 1: you know, I saw this like preamble during the opening ceremonies.
Speaker 1: My kids are super into the Olympics, and the rock
Speaker 1: is like, we have overcome so much. We have you know,
Speaker 1: withstood so much over the last year and a half
Speaker 1: and now it's time to like battle. And honestly, the
Speaker 1: fact that the Olympics were a year delayed and there's
Speaker 1: still no one in the crowd and there's and we're
Speaker 1: still dealing with it so much makes it more depressing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it. We're like eighteen months removed from
Speaker 1: when this all started and the Olympics for instance, are
Speaker 1: you know, being totally impacted, and that makes it more sad.
Speaker 1: I don't know, watching it, I have the same thought
Speaker 1: that we we thought we were kind of out of
Speaker 1: the woods and now it's all it's all still here. Um.
Speaker 1: And it absolutely could affect the NFL season as well,
Speaker 1: even though a couple of months ago we would have
Speaker 1: been like, okay, we dodged it, and then we move forward. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see eight o'clock to light time, Ricky. We'll start
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys trouble on both sides of the
Speaker 1: ball to Marcus Lawrence and Amari Cooper, both expected to
Speaker 1: be out until after the second preseason game for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There's only three of those this year, which takes us
Speaker 1: close to the season mark. We worried, Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's an it's an ankle situation for Cooper, the back
Speaker 1: thing for Lawrence sounds like it was an entire offseason
Speaker 1: journey for him. But they will be ready for Week one,
Speaker 1: so it worried is not the word I'd use. I'm
Speaker 1: not staying up all night thinking about it. In other
Speaker 1: NFC East new Stephen Nelson has a job. The Eagles
Speaker 1: signed the cornerback to a one year deal worth more
Speaker 1: than four million Greg. This is another one of those
Speaker 1: signings late in the process where you look at the
Speaker 1: year and the commitment from the team and the player's ability,
Speaker 1: You're like, ah, there's some real value to ads to
Speaker 1: be made. He's a capable star. Darius Slay like pushed
Speaker 1: for it and they got him, saying like I I
Speaker 1: am convinced. Okay, I'm back on the Eagles bandwagon. Let's
Speaker 1: do Oh, you're in, Let's do it. A trade went
Speaker 1: down over the weekend. The Texans acquired wide receiver Anthony
Speaker 1: Miller from the Bears. There was also a late round
Speaker 1: pick swap involved. Mark Miller was in the doghouse of
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy. What does that mean to you? Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's a good it's a fresh start. He's never
Speaker 1: crossed seven hundred yards in a season. It's been a
Speaker 1: little bit of a disappointment. Never really got off the
Speaker 1: ground in Chicago. But you look at this Texans team.
Speaker 1: They had like eighty seven running backs and about seventy
Speaker 1: eight wide receivers. I mean, Niki Serios just like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna find someone who's cook play here. Maybe the Bengals
Speaker 1: do business with one of their stalwarts. Sam Hubbard signs
Speaker 1: a four year, forty million dollar extension. Good money for
Speaker 1: a former third round pick, Greg Good good contract too.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, is he much different than Carl Lawson.
Speaker 1: They're kind of similar in their profiles to me. Maybe
Speaker 1: not as good a pass rusher, but a good developmental
Speaker 1: prospect who probably would have done better as a free
Speaker 1: agent next year. And finally in the news, the m's
Speaker 1: higher Andy Benoitt as assistant to head coach Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: slash Special Projects Benoit cross passive. Benoit formerly of s
Speaker 1: I and New York Times CBS Sports. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a researcher in second opinion for McVeigh, We're told, Mark,
Speaker 1: do you think this deep down is Greg Rosenthal's dream job?
Speaker 1: I do, And I think there's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: people at NFL media who have been cozying up UM
Speaker 1: hardcore to the Rams for a couple of years who
Speaker 1: felt like they got kind of sideswiped here. They'd like
Speaker 1: to have this job. But Andy Benoit also UM a
Speaker 1: very large fan of drinking milk, and I don't know
Speaker 1: him at all, but I would like to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of that. Like apparently he used to drink.
Speaker 1: Like Ricky said, it was three gallons of milk a
Speaker 1: day according to reports. I don't know what the Rams see.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we'll have to work on that
Speaker 1: part of it. Maybe not as much of a milk drinker.
Speaker 1: Now that's eight o'clock delight, Greg Little. It's like the
Speaker 1: postgame show for eight o'clock Delight. That is true, though,
Speaker 1: be honest, because we don't remember. A couple of weeks back,
Speaker 1: we the guests on the shows like, oh yeah, your
Speaker 1: your buddy with the Eagles that you're friends with, and
Speaker 1: then you made a weird point that you were closer
Speaker 1: to that guy than to me and Mark, and then
Speaker 1: and then on top you weren't at that show. Mark,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll fill you in after the show. And then, um,
Speaker 1: you know you have this situation pop up with the
Speaker 1: Rams and we're right in the backyard of the Rams.
Speaker 1: Is there a part of you that this is really
Speaker 1: what we're really going for? We want to be in
Speaker 1: the front office. I want to be involved. No more
Speaker 1: more work for less pay is not what I'm looking
Speaker 1: at right now in my life. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what any anything, uh it would be with with one
Speaker 1: of these teams, you got to hire, you know, an
Speaker 1: agent that can get you, you know, the guop bro.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think if you go into
Speaker 1: a team, you're starting you know, you're starting at the
Speaker 1: bottom bottom all over again. What am I really going
Speaker 1: to offer? That was my fault, Like if I was
Speaker 1: flip it around like a team team complex, Like what
Speaker 1: am I actually what what skill set would I be bringing?
Speaker 1: I don't, I think, And this is no disrespective, annoyed
Speaker 1: and good job by him, that's absolutely he's more of
Speaker 1: a tape tape dog guy. And in research project I
Speaker 1: think he had a relationship with McVeigh going way back
Speaker 1: writing all these articles. Who knows he's gonna do like
Speaker 1: a little special work assignments. I put my mind to it,
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna. They're not gonna You're suddenly gonna
Speaker 1: be working like seven days a week for like less
Speaker 1: pay your your your family, forget about it. I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't like this. Coaches coaches bring their dudes, and
Speaker 1: they bringing guys they like. And he did form this
Speaker 1: relationship with him, so it's like you gotta start spending
Speaker 1: time with some head coaches. Greg that's then then they don't.
Speaker 1: Then you need to prove yourself as a slight unseen
Speaker 1: I mean, like if you want to say people have
Speaker 1: been cozying up to the rams, there's a lot more
Speaker 1: in line ahead of me, who you know, don't offer
Speaker 1: any sort of negative covers to anything. If anyone was
Speaker 1: paying any attention, I would you know, I would have
Speaker 1: said many things which would have eliminated my candidacy with
Speaker 1: all these but not hiring me, that's for sure. It's
Speaker 1: two thousand. It's two thousand twenty two. Because you're Greg,
Speaker 1: You're the one most likely to get hired in this
Speaker 1: capacity on this podcast. It's two thousand twenty two. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Rams with Matt Stafford in the building, go nuts.
Speaker 1: They win the super Bowl and here comes big swinging
Speaker 1: Andy Benoit into Sula's at the combine with a huge
Speaker 1: rock on his finger. Uh. And it's not an engagement ring,
Speaker 1: it's the Rams Championship super Bowl ring. Okay, they came
Speaker 1: out early just to get him at the combine. Um,
Speaker 1: you see that ring? Does that change your mind the
Speaker 1: idea that you could be walking around with the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: I mean in that scenario, have I won the Lack
Speaker 1: of the Week Championship for a third straight season? Because
Speaker 1: I mean, that's maybe that's the only hardware I need?
Speaker 1: Or did did Apple finally give us like best New
Speaker 1: podcast again? To like it's all it's all a factor?
Speaker 1: And Uh? And how I would feel? I find it
Speaker 1: absurd that you took that to your house. I was
Speaker 1: waiting for you guys to say something. I even put
Speaker 1: it there for Friday show and to respond, Greg does
Speaker 1: have the lock trophy behind him. I think that's a
Speaker 1: well earned trophy. Greg, and I actually take it as
Speaker 1: a positive because you have in vain attempted to cancel
Speaker 1: the Lock of the Week segment um or challenge on
Speaker 1: our regular season shows, and now that you're showing off
Speaker 1: the hardware, I think you've maybe had a little bit
Speaker 1: of in a bath face. Well, I was back in
Speaker 1: the office and I saw it buried. It was just
Speaker 1: on the ground in that back area where there's just
Speaker 1: boxes and boxes, and I thought, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: chance here that no one takes this um And if
Speaker 1: someone's gonna take it, I guess it. I guess it
Speaker 1: should be me. But that's a good point. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to cancel the lock thing. If I win a third
Speaker 1: straight time, can I get get it out? I think
Speaker 1: it's on the table, Okay, Okay, Well that's fair, right, Mark? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I mean it's on the table. It doesn't
Speaker 1: we there's more to be discussed about it. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to win it this season against me. If
Speaker 1: if you win the law competition for I think it
Speaker 1: would be the third straight year. I don't think you've
Speaker 1: won three in a row. But if you three, Pete,
Speaker 1: we will um, we will put it to a vote
Speaker 1: amongst the three of us majority rules. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it all right, good stuff. We'll be back Thursday.
Speaker 1: I'll be back in l A. We'll be all back together.
Speaker 1: One step closer. Uh to be being reunited, and were
Speaker 1: hoping to be in the studios, you know once the
Speaker 1: season starts. For if any listeners are curious, yes, that's
Speaker 1: our goal, and and and other housekeeping news. Ricky jump
Speaker 1: in a second, because I have seen a lot of this.
Speaker 1: There are some people listeners that are upset that there
Speaker 1: are some ads connected to the program right now, just
Speaker 1: understand that that has nothing to a a decision, that
Speaker 1: nothing to do with us. Be Uh. The ads bring
Speaker 1: zero revenue to the talent of the around the podcast
Speaker 1: or our producer. We so we see no money. We
Speaker 1: have no control over how it's really rolled out. But Erica,
Speaker 1: who's excellent at her job, is on quality control to
Speaker 1: make sure it doesn't happen pop in in an unprofessional
Speaker 1: way to try to work them as they are. This
Speaker 1: is a free podcast for you listeners that are upset
Speaker 1: about it. And as you know, there have been some issues,
Speaker 1: unfortunate issues with downsizing at our company. And if they
Speaker 1: want to insert some ads, uh to keep this enterprise
Speaker 1: in a good place. And I'm not saying that's why
Speaker 1: they did it. I'm just saying that's it's it's a business.
Speaker 1: Just be chill about it. It's has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with us selling out. It's just the way things are.
Speaker 1: And it's been a long time before since we've had
Speaker 1: ads on the show. So just enjoyed that era. Don't
Speaker 1: don't be mad that it's over. Be happy, be happy
Speaker 1: it happened at all. And I would also say, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't classify us as puppets, but we do work
Speaker 1: for like a multibillion dollar corporation that occasionally does seem
Speaker 1: to have some control over what what we do on
Speaker 1: a day to day basis. Selling out is on the table,
Speaker 1: like sign me up, Like where can we sell out?
Speaker 1: Have us read the ads? You know, um, if that
Speaker 1: is going to help us, we'll we'll pull back the
Speaker 1: curtain here. Before before this this big deal went through,
Speaker 1: there were some attempts to see, hey, how could we
Speaker 1: maybe make some more money if there is our ads
Speaker 1: involved with the show just shot down. It was just
Speaker 1: not an option for us. It was like, okay, no,
Speaker 1: you will do no. Yeah, we we sent up the
Speaker 1: Patriot missile scud missile went right through it and said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you will continue to be good little boys and girls.
Speaker 1: You will do your little show and we will do
Speaker 1: what we want with you. And what what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do? I mean, they're they're missing out as anyone
Speaker 1: who listens to the jess Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project
Speaker 1: now was like, when I have an ad to sell,
Speaker 1: I sell it baby. You know how you guys kind
Speaker 1: of of us is leave some more iTunes reviews for
Speaker 1: our show. It really does help and talk about you know,
Speaker 1: being the best new podcast of um, the more reviews
Speaker 1: that pop in there, it populates us higher in you know,
Speaker 1: Apple podcasts. So it'd be very very helpful if we
Speaker 1: don't get paid for good reviews either. So there's just
Speaker 1: no channel to money coming our way. All right, there
Speaker 1: you go. That's the update. Thanks to everybody for listening,
Speaker 1: both today and for all the years that have passed
Speaker 1: and all the years to come. That's the plan here,
Speaker 1: but we don't have control over its very little control,
Speaker 1: don't you understand. That's what we're getting out of here.
Speaker 1: We're just doing our bets, all right. That's it, Dan,
Speaker 1: It has to signing off board Fiet Storm, the old
Speaker 1: boss Ricky Hollywood who's turning thirty in a few months,
Speaker 1: to start planning until Thursday. He's the call s