1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to you. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Over promised our bonus show, Cavino and Rick. You know, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: we're on Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday, five to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: seven on the East, two to four on the West, 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: and we have a very special guest today. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I got to thank this guy because he provided 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: probably one of my wife's favorite moments of all time. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: She went to the Super Bowl with her dad see 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: the Packers win partially thanks to this guy. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: It was Packers win. Marrying you right? 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: I think so? 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Yah? 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Clay Matthews, what's going on? 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: Man? How are welcome to the show? 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: Man? Yes, I'm glad she enjoyed that, hopefully as much 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 4: as I did. That was a great a great game, 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 4: a great win for the Packers, and hopefully there's more 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 4: to come. 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's it was one of those things 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: that I can never do wrong in my father in 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 3: law's eyes now, because I was able to get them 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: tickets and they sat right there. And I mean, honestly, 23 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: is that something when you see those moments that Super Bowl? 24 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: Do you picture it in the first person or do 25 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: you like see the highlights like we do? How do 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: you visualize that day? 27 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: Now? I tell you what it really is a blur 28 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: because that was my second year in the league and 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: being a wildcard team without a bye, we had to 30 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: win our last two games of the season just to 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: get in as the sixth seed at the time, and 32 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: then running the table. I just remember it was a 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: blur and I didn't appreciate it at the time, just 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: because I figured, hey, we're gonna win the Super Bowl 35 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: every year after that, which obviously didn't happen. But yeah, 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: watching the highlights now, it's pretty cool to see to 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: realize how difficult it is to not only make a 38 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: super Bowl, excuse me, to win a super Bowl, but 39 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: not only make one. It's fun to watch though, especially 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: now that my kids are getting to the age where 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 4: they're watching highlights and seeing Daddy, you know, make plays 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: and whatnot. So I enjoy everyone smile going back and 43 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: watching that game. 44 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: It was cool to seeing him talk about it. 45 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: You see the smile on his space still, like it's 46 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: still there when you talk about it. 47 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: I remember, yeah, I mean, it's the ultimate team achievement 48 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: in the NFL. And I played eleven years. We got 49 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: to three NFC championship games, two of those we lost, 50 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: and you know the one obviously we end up winning, uh, 51 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: you know, winning the Super Bowl as well. You just 52 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 4: realize how difficult it is, even when you have you know, 53 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks. So many things need 54 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: to go in your favor, and uh, the Chiefs are 55 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: actually making it look real easy, which is a shame 56 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: because it truly is difficult. But you know, you see 57 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: that with with the Ravens, and you know everybody probably 58 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: picked them. You know, this was their year with the turnovers, 59 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: and you know, perhaps it's another team and now we 60 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: have you know, I guess aside from the AFC, you know, 61 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: the NFC, those are two teams I'm sure nobody would 62 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: have picked before the beginning of the year. But sorry 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: to hijack your show here, but you know, Jadie Daniels 64 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: is playing so well, and obviously nobody saw Saquon in 65 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: the success. You know he was going to have, uh, 66 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: coming from New York. So that's why it's you know, 67 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: it's all about who gets hot, you know, at the 68 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: at the right time. And and these whether it's draft acquisition, 69 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: are free agent acquisitions, how different it is, and the 70 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: parody within the league. 71 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm so glad Clay said that is who's hot, because 72 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: I often wonder let this momentum matter, because you look 73 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: at records and it's like, does that even matter at 74 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: this point? It's like, who's playing well now? Because I 75 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: remember you guys, if I remember correctly, the year, you 76 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: guys won, you snuck in, you beat the Bears, I 77 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: believe the final week of the season, and they sort 78 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: of were resting some players, and it's like, they let 79 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 3: you guys in. I remember saying, why are you doing that? 80 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right, so we if I'm taking even 81 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: further back, Deshaun Jackson for the Eagles at the time, 82 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: he had returned that last second punt against the Giants. 83 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: I think there's a great video of Coughlin, I think 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: yelling at it. Maybe it was Coughlin yelling at the 85 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: punter at the time. But by them beating the Giants, 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: we had to win out the last two games, which 87 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: was against the Giants the very next week and then 88 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: the following week, like you had mentioned, against the Bears, 89 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: they had already I think locked up the one or 90 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: two seed. They had the buy at the time, so 91 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: they were and yeah, we kind of we had a 92 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: nice game there where we won it was a tight, 93 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: you know, typical divisional game, and then yeah, we just 94 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: got on a run at the time. So and like 95 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: you had said, we were eight and six, ended up 96 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: finishing ten to six and just winning you know, those 97 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: last obviously those four playoff games in the two games 98 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: prior to that, and it was all we were the 99 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 4: hottest team in the NFL. Went down to obviously beat Philadelphia, 100 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: Michael Vick go down to Atlanta, I think Matt Ryan 101 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: and them were fourteen and two and Aaron played arguably 102 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 4: his greatest game ever and then one more win against 103 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 4: Chicago and we're off to the Super Bowl. 104 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: Sweet yah, Clay Matthews here at can you know Rich? 105 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: I have so much I want to I want to 106 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: talk to you guys about. Let's talk family legacy for 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: a second. You guys are sometimes known as the first 108 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: family of the NFL. Recently, Ryan Clark was saying he 109 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: was more excited to see his his son play in 110 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: the National Championship yeah than him playing. Are you guys 111 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: really that tight where when you see your family members playing, 112 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: is that as big a thrill as you you playing yourself? 113 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: Well, while I do enjoy watching my siblings play, or 114 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: did at the time watch my siblings play. I am 115 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: now beginning to experience. But I think Ryan is touching on, 116 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: which is getting to watch your son play. And this 117 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: is gonna sound ridiculous, but my five year old he 118 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: started flag football last year. The first game and we 119 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: won like thirty four thirty one, and I got that 120 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: feeling again, you know, that that drive, and I felt like, oh, 121 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: there it is. It's in there and I and then, 122 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: you know, obviously he started progressing, mind you, you know, 123 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: five years old, but keeping contained, you know, and we 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: ended up winning the championship that year. But anyways, it 125 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: was just a lot of fun. I felt that pride 126 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: and I can only imagine, you know, as and if 127 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: you know my kids to decide to pursue whatever it is, 128 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: you take that great joy and pride and the success 129 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: they have, and then obviously if it is football, you 130 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 4: kind of share that with them. So I'm just entering 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: into that phase where the pride I have is with 132 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: you know, a gymnastics meet or getting a ten out 133 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: of ten on your spelling test. But we're getting there. 134 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Imagine being one of the parents at that flag football 135 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 3: game and there's Clay Matthews, right. 136 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: We're never gonna beat this team. 137 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: No, but again, Randall Cobb is also an assistant coach. 138 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: We had Mark Marianni Tannehill coaches a grade above us, 139 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: so yeah, it's uh, it could be a little daunting, 140 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: But they ended up winning the championship too, in a 141 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: different league, so yeah, we got a little a little prow. 142 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm feeling like their team has been an advantage 143 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: here right now. But you said it, man, there's this 144 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: sense of pride, but there's also the nerve wrecking feeling 145 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: of you're rooting for them and you're not in control 146 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: and you're just so nervous for them in a way, 147 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: you're so excited at the same time. 148 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: But again, thanks for being here. 149 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: Clay Matthews on the show with Cole and the Safety 150 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: Impact Award. Now, you're from Gore Hills, as you mentioned before, 151 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: from Gore Hills, then USC California, Kid, then you go 152 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: to Green Bay. What was that transition like going from California, 153 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: beautiful weather then to Green Bay. 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. I tell this story all the time, but when 155 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: I was drafted, a nine to two zero number came 156 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: up on my phone. No idea where that was coming from, 157 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: and a gentleman, I couldn't. I don't know who if 158 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: it was, you know, Mike McCarthy, the Ted Thompson, the 159 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: GM at the time, whomever it was. But you know, 160 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: I hop off the phone. Everybody celebrating. Okay, it's it's 161 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: Green Bay. They want to draft me. I go, all right, great, 162 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: you know Green Bay. There's a lot of history there. 163 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: I go, all right, well, where's Green Bay? You know 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: it's I have to go on Google. It's it's in Wisconsin. 165 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: I go, all right, well, where's Wisconsin? You know, as 166 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: a West coach kid like Midwest like no, So it 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: was definitely it wasn't so much a culture shot getting there. 168 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: It was I mean it was an awesome place to play, 169 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: an awesome place to succeed. The fans there remarkable, but obviously, 170 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: like you had mentioned, coming growing up in LA going 171 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: to college there and going out to the Midwest, I mean, 172 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: that NFL environment is so unique and kind of was 173 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: you know. I had the opposite experience where my time 174 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: with Pete Carroll at USC was very much ran like 175 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: an NFL program, and then I go to the NFL, 176 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: which is very much in Green Bay, which is very 177 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: much a college like atmosphere, So I feel like I 178 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: had it backwards, But nevertheless, love my time there. Awesome place, 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: love the fans, and you know, it's always it's always 180 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: a great enjoyment for me whenever I get to go back. 181 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: No Clay, speaking of Pete, Carroll thoughts on looks like 182 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: he's going back into the coaching world Raiders. 183 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: What do you think, Yeah, well, I think it's great 184 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 4: for the Raiders. You know, it's obviously you have the 185 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 4: you know, the Detroit coaches who took their jobs and 186 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: then it's kind of whose second fiddle. Now that doesn't 187 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: equate to success, but nevertheless, you see what not only 188 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: Pete was able to do at the collegiate ranks at USC, 189 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: but he brings that to Seattle and they have that 190 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: success for so and win a Super Bowl, get to 191 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: another one, and so I'm hopeful, you know, obviously spending 192 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 4: time with Pete that he's able to change the culture there. 193 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: And you know, I think when the Raiders are good, 194 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 4: it's good for it's good for football. You know, one 195 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: of those historic, iconic organizations and they just fallen on 196 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: such hard times that it would be great to see 197 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: him kind of bring them back to glory. So I 198 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: think it's a great pick at this point. Like I said, 199 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody wanted Johnson and Glenn, but that's no 200 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: you know, on any other coach that's hired at this point, 201 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: that's no slight on them. But I think it's a 202 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: great hire. 203 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: Now, when you watch the games this weekend, are you 204 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: one to root for greatness or do you want Josh 205 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: Allen to get his first Like, are you on the 206 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: mindset of like a three p would be cool or 207 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: you think no, no, no, I want to see everyone 208 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: get there a little piece if they can. 209 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: Well I was I thought this was Baltimore's year. I 210 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: thought it was you know, I thought Lamar Jackson was 211 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: going to exercise those demons. But you know, Buffalo's tough, 212 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: and I think we all thought this is what the 213 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: AFC Championship Game was going to be about. But as 214 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: someone as I just alluded to, found out how difficult 215 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: it is, not only to you know, be a part 216 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 4: of a Super Bowl, to win one for a team 217 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: to three pet you know, in the amount of success 218 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: Tom Brady and the Patriots had. I was always rooting 219 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: for them because I thought it was so spectacular what 220 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: they were able to do year in and year out. 221 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: So I I, you know, I can't say I'm like 222 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: actively pulling for the Chiefs. I guess I'm just hoping 223 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: as a fan, I'm going to be that guy and 224 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: said I'm rooting for a good game. But I really am, 225 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 4: because I think you got too, Like you had said 226 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: Josh Allen getting his piece of the pie, getting his 227 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: first chance. You know, four and zero in the regular season, 228 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: I believe against Mahomes, but zero and three in the playoffs. 229 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: So is he gonna rise up to the occasion put 230 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: the team on his back? Mahomes playoff? Kelc, is that 231 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: team just destined to you know, be the next dynasty 232 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: or cantinue that? And then on the NFC side, you 233 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: got two teams that probably nobody predicted, you know, before 234 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 4: the start of the year. So yeah, I mean, as 235 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: a fan at this point with where I'm at, you 236 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: are some good matchups that I'm obviously watching both games intently. 237 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: As a fan and former player. 238 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: When you're watching with your family, do you say to 239 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: your bros, your buddy, man, I would totally have popped 240 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Mahomes if he tried that on me, Like, yeah, what's 241 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: your mindset with that. 242 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's hard to watch. It's hard to watch. 243 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the product in general, you know, 244 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: as far as like because I love sitting down. My 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: wife knows Sundays like you know, I get the dishes 246 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: done in the morning, Banana bread needs to be made. 247 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: I'm in charge of that. But by noon I'm sitting 248 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: down to watch the full slate of games until about 249 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: nine pm out here. But it is, it is difficult 250 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: at times to watch the referees throw flags on these 251 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: hits that are clear as day, not roughing the passer fouls, 252 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: you know. Looking for a solution, I think there needs 253 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: to be an emphasis on intent, you know, intent and 254 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 4: you look at it. I want to say, it was 255 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: that Anderson hit on Mahomes and you know they said 256 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: he hit him up high, clearly hit him in the shoulder, 257 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: pattered chest. Is that a close one perhaps, But then 258 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: the next one where he darts back inside Mahomes that is, 259 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: and the two people go over top of him immediately 260 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 4: they throw a flag. Well, you got to the intent 261 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: of Mahomes running the ball is to draw a flag too. 262 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: And you saw that on another one where he went 263 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: on the sideline, he kind of slowed down then flopped 264 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: out of bounds. I just you know, it's it ruins it. 265 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 4: It ruins the game a little bit. And if they 266 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 4: are going to do that, they just need to be runners. 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: They need they designate themselves as runner. They need to 268 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: take those hits and if they don't want those hits, 269 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: they stay in the pocket. Throw the ball away. 270 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: But your solution sounds perfect, but I can't get out 271 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: of my head. Do we need to try Clay Matthew's 272 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: banana bread? 273 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Dude? Is that the banana bread? 274 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: Is this? Like? Is this something everyone needs to try? 275 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: Clay Matthew Bread. 276 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: My my wife put me in charge of it, you know, 277 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: maybe a year or two ago, and now I just 278 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: got a downpack and the kids love it. So we 279 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 4: go through a little bit too fast here. It takes 280 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: about an hour to make bake. That is, yeah, but 281 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I'm not trying to 282 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: start transitioning into that next phase of my life. Yeah, 283 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: I went from like this this caveman on the field 284 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: to now, you know, being real refined. 285 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: He's gonna do a baking show called Guy Fieri. Let's 286 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: get I wouldn't. 287 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Want to stop him. 288 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: But I also heard Bryce Harper's banana bread is pretty legendary. 289 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a thing. 290 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, athletes, you know, let me ask you about 291 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: one of your former teammates, who, my goodness, you can't 292 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: you couldn't turned anywhere the last year or so, and 293 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: not talking about Aaron Rodgers. 294 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: Your experience with Aaron? Great guy? You ever have issues 295 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: like what what's your story with Aaron? 296 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: Aaron's a man. I love Aaron, and uh, you know, 297 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: I think what people are always, you know, when they 298 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: talk to me, they're asking for you know, what type 299 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: of guy is he? What type of leader is he? 300 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: And I've always said this, and I think it's the 301 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: ultimate compliment. It just depends on what type of leader 302 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: you want. You know, you've got your raw ra guys, 303 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 4: Hey bring it together, let's break it down. And then 304 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: growing up in la as you guys talked about earlier, 305 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: watching Kobe, I always said Aaron was very much like 306 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: Kobe and that he wants to crush you. And as 307 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: a leader, if you want to be great, you got 308 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: to follow him, you know, And so I think that's 309 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: why he had such a great chemistry with guys like 310 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: Jordie Nelson, Davante Adams, you know, Greg Jennings, because they 311 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: were on the same page. They sought after him. They knew, 312 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: you know, he was going to get him to that 313 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: where they wanted to go, which is you know, a 314 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: thousand receiving yards, pro bowls, whatever it may be. So, yeah, 315 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: I love Aaron. I've got nothing negative to say about him. 316 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: I know, in the context of being on TV and 317 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: being a leader, do his you know, ideas and what 318 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: he has to say go against the grain, of course, 319 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: but you got to respect that. You know, he believes 320 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: in this and you know, for forty one or you know, 321 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: however old he is, I thought he still had a 322 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: little ball left in him. So I'm gonna I'm gonna 323 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: flip this and talk about next year. I mean, is 324 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: he coming back next year or I hope. 325 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: So I think he's got guess in the tank. 326 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: I really do, and I think he does too. But 327 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: but is it with the Jets or is it with 328 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: another team? 329 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: I said, you got to one to where is that 330 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: landing spot? 331 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: And by the way, maybe you would know you have 332 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: him on text message probably right there. 333 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: Listen, we just our I don't go to him. Hey, 334 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: what are you thinking? You know I'm doing. I'm doing 335 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: third grade fractions right now. I don't have time for that. 336 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: A few inside jokes here and there, the locker room 337 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: talk that we have with some of the other guys 338 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: is fantastic, But as far as what he's gonna do. Listen, 339 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: he was in the league before me. He's still playing afterwards. 340 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: He does him. But watching him, man, I was, I was. 341 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: It was hard to watch the Jets this last year, 342 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: but I always pulled for him. 343 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: Did you watch his documentary on Netflix? 344 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: And watch his documentary? I lived it, so I mean, like, 345 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: you know, what am I going to see that's any different? 346 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: But I'm sure, I'm sure it was great. I'm sure 347 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: there's some insight that people, you know, got people talking, 348 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: and I'm sure it's great. 349 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Is it weird for you to see him as a Jet? 350 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: And was it weird for you to wear the Rams 351 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: uniform after being in Green Bay so long? 352 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? Definitely. I think anytime you play with one organization. 353 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: We were lucky in that. You know, there's so much 354 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: turnover in this league and at the time we were 355 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: in Green Bay, there was a draft and develop approach, 356 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: and I think that's why we had so much success 357 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: with the late Ted Thompson our GM at the time 358 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: going to LA for that year, although it was like 359 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: I was going home. Yeah, I mean, everybody knows me 360 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: as a packer, you know, and everybody will forever know 361 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers as a packer despite his two years with 362 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: the Jets. You know, you think about Brett Farb and 363 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: some of these greats who go on to another team 364 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 4: who have a little bit left in the tank. But 365 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: it also kind of reinvigorates and re energizes you when 366 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: you feel like you got to prove yourself. And I 367 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: know Aaron and I attended a wedding this past off 368 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 4: season and he very much felt that same sentiment when 369 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: I talked with him. So, but we'll see what that means. 370 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 4: Like I said, he's been doing this for what twenty 371 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 4: plus years, If he wants to continue to do it, 372 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: if there's something else that's calling him, if he just 373 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: doesn't want to go out on you know, on that foot, 374 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: no pun intended, you know, with this last year. So 375 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what he's gonna do, 376 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm a fan of the game. I'm 377 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: a fan of his and I'll be watching Doug Clay. 378 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: When you when you come into the league, you're the 379 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: new guy, you know, fresh out of college. What's the 380 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: difference in the locker room versus when you come into 381 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: a new team when you're a veteran, a Pro Bowl 382 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: or a champion? Like is it? Is it a difference 383 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: of like trying to trying to earn respect versus people 384 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 3: kissing your butt a little bit? 385 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, Well as a rookie, it's you know, 386 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: you gotta watch. You gotta keep your head on a swivel. 387 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: You don't know what's gonna happen, and try and earn 388 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: your keep, so to speak, you know, not mess up. 389 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: But when you're at the level where I was at 390 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: with Aaron comes out, it's a different level of expectations 391 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: for you. It's an expectation of being a leader, coming 392 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: to a team and changing a culture, at least showing 393 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: the younger guys what it's all about. So that was 394 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 4: that was fun for me in my year with the Rams, 395 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: you know, watching these guys behind me how I went 396 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: about my business and achieved the level of success that 397 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: I did. So I actually enjoyed that not only playing 398 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: at a high level, but also you know, kind of 399 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 4: transitioning into that next step of being a mentor. And 400 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 4: you know we're still talking about Aaron. Obviously, when you're 401 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: in the league twenty years, you're gonna have more and 402 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: more of that as you saw with Love and you 403 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: know obviously some of these other quarterbacks and players with him. 404 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt we're going to talk about the cult 405 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: safety impact a ward that I know you're working with. 406 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: But I got one last thought about Sae Kwon Barkley 407 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: last week said he pinpointed that as his best touchdown, 408 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: and you saw Mark Andrews said, since like little league, 409 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: like one fun ball, yet us his best touchdown. Meanwhile, 410 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 3: on the other side of things, Mark Andrews probably had, 411 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: you know, his lowest moment where he was said he 412 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: was gutted. Do you remember your best and worst moments 413 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: on the field? Do you try to like just not 414 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: think that way? 415 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean we all remember our best moments 416 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 4: on the field. We love to live in those memories. 417 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: I know what the worst moments you're just trying to 418 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 4: I don't remember that game, but uh yeah, no, I mean, listen, 419 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: it's it's you know, you're gonna have these years like 420 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: say Quantas had where you maybe not maybe not everybody, 421 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: but you know where you rush for two thousand yards, 422 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: But then there's gonna be times where you can't even 423 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: crack a thousand. It was no different with you know, 424 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: Sacks and me. You know you're you're following the Sacks 425 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: left and right. You can't you know, you can't. Uh, 426 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: you know, Sniff won the next year. So it's just 427 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: part of the game. But yeah, say Quan has been 428 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: fun to watch. I mean there's been talk of him arguably, 429 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: depending on how the Eagle season ends, you know, perhaps 430 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl victory, as the greatest you know, 431 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: free agent acquisition man that just has to kill the 432 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 4: Giants because they obviously made the wrong decision there. But yeah, 433 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's part of the game, you know, 434 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 4: the ups and downs, and uh, you know, he's he's 435 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: fun to watch this year. 436 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: The minute we said running backs don't matter anymore, then 437 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry and the say Quan are like, yeah, what 438 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: you say? 439 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: You know Rich you mentioned Mark Andrews too. 440 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Clay, how do you feel 441 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: about him having or expecting to deal with the press. 442 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, they always tell you it comes with the business. 443 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: Because there were times where I would not want to 444 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: speak with the media. There were times where I didn't 445 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: speak with the media. I feel like, I don't you know, 446 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: we don't owe it to them. So I hear what 447 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: you're saying. I don't have an opinion strongly one way 448 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: or the other. I think you do have to, you know, 449 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: respect his process, whatever that may be, because you know, 450 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: when you drop that two point conversion and everybody around 451 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: the world or at least watching that game, is going 452 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: to put they say, hey, you lost the game, and 453 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 4: then you have that turnover. I mean that's tough, you know, 454 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: So let him handle it. He wants to handle him. 455 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 4: He's a Pro Bowl tight end. He's going to bounce back. 456 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: And you know a lot of times in the heat 457 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 4: of the moment after a game, when you're you know, 458 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: this is the adrenaline, and you haven't processed that, you 459 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: haven't watched the film, and they you know, they shove 460 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: a camera in your face or a microphone that is 461 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: you know, you just want to make sure you have 462 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 4: the right words, reflect upon it and whatnot. So like 463 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: I said, it comes with the business. You have to 464 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 4: respect that all, you know, the money that comes from it, 465 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: the fame, everything that the NFL provides that you just 466 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: got to have to lean into it and listen. He 467 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: released a message on social media and said what he 468 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: had to say. So it doesn't have to right after 469 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 4: the game. It can be when he's when he feels comfortable. 470 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: I actually agree with that completely, Right, that's the toughest moment. 471 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: You built this up your whole life to live that 472 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: moment you fall short. 473 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: He's a short handed guy. 474 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: He's a great pro. 475 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 2: He's earned the right to be like, you know what, 476 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: I'll address it when I'm ready. That's how I feel 477 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: about it. Give the guy some grace, all right. 478 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: Thanks. 479 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: I And you know I got one more question. Yeah, 480 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: you come from a legendary sports family. Is there another 481 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: sports family that you look at and admire a lot? Like, Yeah, 482 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: they're like second to us. 483 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: Well, you know, obviously you have to be in awe 484 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: of what the Mannings have done. But you know that 485 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: that's the easy answer, that's the low hanging fruit, obviously. 486 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: But I mean you really have to look at the 487 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: the Watt brothers, you know, and what they've been able 488 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 4: to do, and not only be you know, to win 489 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year. I think JJ three times 490 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 4: and TJ once and and you know, perhaps should have 491 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: or would have wanted, you know, a couple other times. 492 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: I think that's pretty remarkable what they've been able to do, 493 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 4: especially at a pass rusher position where I know when 494 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: I was playing, you know, von Miller might have twenty 495 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 4: sacks one year, then Jared Allen, then DeMarcus Ware was 496 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 4: so hard you'd have sustained success, but your success was 497 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 4: dictated by your sack numbers, you know. And so for 498 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: them to continue to do that for the entire year 499 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 4: of their career. Amby Brothers, you know, kind of speaks 500 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: to how special that is. 501 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: And Clay you're working with call they launched the Safety 502 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: Impact or give us a scoop on this. I know 503 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 3: they're donating money and doing a lot of great stuff. 504 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my friends and I Cole, Yeah, as you 505 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: had just mentioned, we launched the Safety Impact Award, which 506 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: highlights the critical mission of educating everybody on safe and 507 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: responsible firearm ownership. Together, we're highlighting nonprofit organizations who have 508 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: shown an exceptional commitment to safety in the industry, and 509 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 4: it's not only myself, it's a Hall of Famer, Joe Thomas, 510 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: super Bowl champion Adam and Arry Fletcher Cox. We are 511 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: all supporting our respective charity's mind. I want to get 512 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: this writer's project child safe, and we're encouraging everybody to 513 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: go to Safety Impact Award dot Com. You can support 514 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: the cause by voting for the award winner. Colt will 515 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: donate one dollar for every vote received for the winning charity, 516 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: and by registering to vote, you have a chance to 517 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: win prizes, one of them being in Colts. It's called 518 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: their Big Game. I want to get this right safety 519 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: sweepstakes and which if there is a safety during the 520 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: Super Bowl then those who have registered will have a 521 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: chance to win up to one hundred thousand dollars. So 522 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: it's a cause that's close to me having a young family, 523 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: being an outdoorsman and a firearm enthusiast, it only makes 524 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: sense to work together and something that I hope everybody 525 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: can get on board with. So just to reiterate that 526 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: Safety Impact. 527 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: Award dot Com, I had one question for you too, 528 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: because you're from Agora Hills. For years, I've talked about 529 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: Lincoln Park from Mgorea Hills. Are they're a big fan 530 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: growing up. 531 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: Or oh my gosh, yes, I mean literally my my 532 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: youngest so I was just talking about we put on 533 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: a Imagine Dragons radio because it has the Lincoln Park 534 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 4: can get a little heavy. But he knows like in 535 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: the end and some of these other songs. But yeah, 536 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: Lincoln Park. I forget who it was, but their drummer 537 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: or guitarists had he went to a Gorea high school. 538 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: And then I want to say Hoopa Stank was around the. 539 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Same time off from that Calabasas area. 540 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exact, I want to say they went to 541 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: west Lake. So yeah, man, Lincoln Park's great. 542 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: Play hellier kids exactly. 543 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: I got so, I got three kids. I have a 544 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: nine year old, an eight year old, and a five 545 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: year old. 546 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: I got seven. I got a seven and a five. 547 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: So we're in the mix. Man, my daughters seven. You 548 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: said gymnastics gymnastics is. 549 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: Like the thing. 550 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, my uh my daughter is all about dance gymnastics. 551 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean, she can't be be busier. And and then 552 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 4: my youngest is like, he's the one who's probably gonna 553 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: follow my footsteps. He's all, you know, he wants to 554 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: play every sport flag, football, basketball, soccer, baseball, you name it. 555 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 4: But it's fun though, because it keeps being busy, entertained, 556 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: and like I told you guys, it kind of keeps 557 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: that like that competitive nature. 558 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. So what kid shows cartoons? What are 559 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: you getting sucked into? 560 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: Man? They they love well, they're just getting over Grizzy 561 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: in the Lemons. It's on a Netflix that it's like 562 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: a it's like a grizzly bear chasing these but they're 563 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: switching over to Ricky, Ricky, Dicky, Nicky and Don, which 564 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: I'm I'm finally okay with because they're getting into real 565 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: people and getting away from a cartoon. So but yeah, 566 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: that's kind of what I give it. I throw them 567 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 4: in the playroom and I just you know, watch whatever 568 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: you want to watch, Lee, Daddy in the football behind. 569 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: Dad's making banana bread them alone, dude, A pleasure, A 570 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: pleasure meeting Clay Matthews, you know the man. 571 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: And thanks for your time and continued success. 572 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 4: Man, Hey, I appreciate it. 573 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thank you, all right, thanks again to 574 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Clay Matthews. He was cool man, good dude, real cool. 575 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: We talk to him. I always want to do an 576 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: extra bonus over promise, So hey, if you miss anything 577 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: at covin old Rich, enjoy your football weekend and until 578 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: next time, all right. 579 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: Be there, chie babies. See you in the over promised land. 580 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Come back peace,