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Speaker 2: Yes, this is one of the most punishing ordeals of

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Speaker 2: Everyone else is facing out at me, all these cameras.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, have you been on.

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Speaker 2: What a career have I?

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Speaker 3: You can't top it, so don't imitate it.

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Speaker 2: It could be good to see. This is what we're saying,

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Speaker 1: imagine my surprise when I unfolded my favorite periodical, Grazia magazine.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Jacobs has honed skills behind acting. I'm learning how

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Speaker 2: Thank you about Grazzia magazine.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So the new skill set is making compelling documentaries.

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Speaker 3: One of them, one of them.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, middle aged guys, a podcast because SmartLess has kicked

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Speaker 3: How long have you been doing this podcast?

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Speaker 3: And how long have they been doing that podcast?

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Speaker 2: A year? Ten seconds?

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Speaker 1: So? From what I heard when they once they split

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Speaker 3: Okay, so they've ten years ten Yeah. Hell, this was

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Speaker 3: a also what's the podcast document? What's the dock documenting this?

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Speaker 1: They're on a tour.

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Speaker 3: Have you guys done a tour?

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Speaker 1: Little one?

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Speaker 3: Did it? How big? Compare the venues?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did they do the cities that we did on

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Speaker 1: Play the venue themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yes, how many seats?

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Speaker 1: How many you're not going to get anywhere comparing your

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Speaker 3: Sold their podcast to a podcasting network. What was their deal?

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Speaker 3: How much can you look that up?

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Speaker 1: How the amount of money that they Kevin worked for them?

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Speaker 1: They became a network they're there. They are their own network.

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Speaker 1: a network. Yeah, I think it was like one hundred million.

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Speaker 3: How many spin off shows do you have, like for

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Speaker 1: None?

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Speaker 5: They have a handful of other shows, but they have

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Speaker 1: We have to make our own. Yeah, when we when

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Speaker 3: So it's not passive income for you, spirally.

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Speaker 5: Sorry I said one hundred million, it was eighty million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, they sold the podcast, so that's.

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Speaker 1: Twenty Million's a big checks.

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Speaker 2: And there's three of them.

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Speaker 3: So well, but how much did they make on the tour?

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Speaker 3: They could have made that twenty up on the tour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that doesn't include the show.

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Speaker 3: And then the show and how many episodes of the.

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Speaker 1: Show a producer.

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Speaker 2: You know what's sad to me is you're like, how

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Speaker 2: long have you guys been doing this? When like when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you were there in the same building. I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have a heavy foot.

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Speaker 4: be out.

449
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 3: Yes, Basis lived in our building. That's right, Yeah, that's

450
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: not a bit.

451
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you get the elevator and Jeffrey Aaron

452
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: would be behind you and he'd say.

453
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're complating

454
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: timelines because they lived in the apartment before us. No,

455
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: get it straight. He was.

456
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: He never comes back and.

457
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: Think he's ever the elevator.

458
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: Have you worked at that building since you've moved out?

459
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: Have I worked there? I had so many jobs. This

460
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: is like you and Colbert. It's like, uh, do I I?

461
00:23:52,680 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Because I definitely were Yeah, no, no, Have you been

462
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: working there a lot?

463
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: I did? I filmed something there after I moved out.

464
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: I was trying to find common ground, but none.

465
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: Been filming less. Been doing more of this. Oh yeah,

466
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: documentary film, you know, on camera film.

467
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: And then have you pitched it? Have you pitched it?

468
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: We have nothing.

469
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: We have nothing to We're pitching it now to our documentarian.

470
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: This is the learning.

471
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: I'm still I guess we're coming together. This is the

472
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: dream set.

473
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the dream weaving.

474
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: Do you need to freaking like put on big galoshes

475
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: and like roll around and make like I would say

476
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: it extended the gestation period for our podcast by a

477
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: couple of years. You're stomping disruptive noise.

478
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry. I wear these clogs a lot. My

479
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: feet aren't great, Okay, so I have to wear these claws.

480
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm like big ball, fucking clumper. Like the clogs are

481
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: not like keeping you was really worried, like because we'd

482
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: hear one really loud thumb yeah, and then nothing for

483
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: a while. We go like do we need to go

484
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: check like did she fall? No?

485
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: And did you have like starees somehow within the within

486
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: the apartment that you were.

487
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I would do photo shoots at the

488
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: apartment and I'd get a ladder, okay, and so you

489
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: know you want to you want to have different heights.

490
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you would fall down the ladder and like

491
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: hit every.

492
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Step on the way down, and yet you never came

493
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: to check on me.

494
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: Well, you wouldn't you appropriate.

495
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: You would say I'm fine a lot. You would scream

496
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: that you were fine.

497
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: We would we would hear that through the vent or whatever.

498
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could hear other people's apartments very clearly in

499
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: the bathroom vents.

500
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So ye, we kind of scoot out into the bathroom. Yeah,

501
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: if we weren't in, they're already for our dream session.

502
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: You know.

503
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we'd hear I'm fine, click click kaboom,

504
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: and it would be like okay I and I also

505
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: would be pretty uncomfortable going to check only because I

506
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: was very confident you would not recognize me if I

507
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: came in.

508
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's there? You just look straight through the hallway.

509
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: And then even in the span of a single conversation, yeah.

510
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: His, how have you met Gilliam?

511
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Because you were saying that you had your own connection.

512
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Well at the Bill I would come to the building

513
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: all the time for the dream sessions.

514
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: Why weren't you ever at your place for dreaming?

515
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: Ceilings too, there were high ceilings, Yes, very high ceilings.

516
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're waving or you know, like imagining the space

517
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: and like waving our arms around, and in my place,

518
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: you could hurt your hand, your finger really yeah, yes,

519
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: because you tried to even wave at somebody.

520
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 3: Okay.

521
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: I would go to the apartment and so I have

522
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: this thing, you know, you have to like park your

523
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: car and stuff. It's hard for me to park my

524
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 2: car without a tennis ball hanging down from somewhere, and

525
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: so I get into a lot of situations where I

526
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: have to park and there's no tennis ball.

527
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

528
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: And the way the bill it today, like out the

529
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: outside parking is set up at the building, I would

530
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: just like not really be able to I wasn't going fast,

531
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely not able to know exactly when to stop.

532
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: And so your trash area I would kind of use

533
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: as like a soft wait.

534
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: You were letting him park in our parking area, in

535
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: the back parking area, those are all reserved spots.

536
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: Larry was very supportive of our project.

537
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: Had a lot of questions, what will you be doing?

538
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: How long will you be in here?

539
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

540
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: You know what, I would say, we could do whatever

541
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: we want, you know, but then that also would make

542
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: very suspicious.

543
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: We did. We did tell him it was a podcast

544
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: about climbing hair, which for him, he was very steelcare

545
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: So you don't know, Yeah, I don't know what the story.

546
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: I'm lost again. I thought I understood what was happening,

547
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: and now we're back to square.

548
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: Larry was sort of an enthusiast of not hair necessarily

549
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: on its own or climbing on its own, but the

550
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: concept of.

551
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: The combination of those two ideas did something for him.

552
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: It just like he just lit up like a little kid,

553
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: you know.

554
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: And so I would park in the parking area and

555
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: sort of smush up against the trash and at the time,

556
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: like what.

557
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: Were there the big trash the big trash part.

558
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I would use that. I would use that to kind.

559
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Of like give my trash smush up against.

560
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: Give my car a soft landing, smash, smush into it,

561
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: mush up against the trash.

562
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: Here, remember, okay against the trash. Okay. And we lived

563
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: on different floors.

564
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: It was doing a great deal of kayaking at the time,

565
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: and so I would keep obviously my kayak on the

566
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: roof of the car where where the river although well,

567
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: first the river and then the ocean. I'd go all

568
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: the way out in the ocean into the ocean.

569
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: That's how rivers work.

570
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: Yes, ideally, uh, the river that goes to the ocean.

571
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: You have to go.

572
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: I gotta go based on I gotta.

573
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: Did you put something in the river that you thought

574
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: you could just go back and get see?

575
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: So this is extra interesting to me because kayaking, I

576
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: gotta call my mom. I would just think that you

577
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: would have more information on this, at least.

578
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Something that belonged to your Like how is your mom

579
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: related to what got lost to the river.

580
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: She gave me something and she said hold on to this,

581
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: and I was like, I I don't have room for it.

582
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, oh god?

583
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: Is it something that would like float?

584
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, But I put it on a

585
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: rock and I thought it'd be fine.

586
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's better. Okay. How big is the rock?

587
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: I mean I should say pebble?

588
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 2: That's okay, So it's what was really small?

589
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: It was under the water, under the water.

590
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: How boyant is the thing? Okay? So probably it's just

591
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: dragging the pebble into the The peb was probably in

592
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: the ocean.

593
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

594
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: Was it a raft? Okay, never mind, Okay, it doesn't matter,

595
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. This is what I'm wondering because in

596
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: driving my car into the the momentum from that would

597
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: take my kayak, my kayak is not like, uh, strapped

598
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: down because if I need it really fast, I kind

599
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: of have to keep it loose on the roof.

600
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Of the absolutely.

601
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: And so my kayak would kind of that.

602
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: Was what I did with the thing in the river.

603
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: Forward, go into your trash, and then you would come

604
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: out and just take out whatever was in there, which

605
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: I feel like was like part of your daily routine.

606
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Is just like what's it? And you're like, this is

607
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: this is mine? It's my name on ye on the

608
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: building one man's trash. Yeah, I'd always hear you sort

609
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: of muttering yourself.

610
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: Yep, I do a lot of muttering. It's stomping and

611
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: falling down ladders that copyrighted. Please stop unless you want

612
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: to pay me.

613
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: And so you would. You would drag the kayak out

614
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: of the trash, hoist it onto your back and sort

615
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: of like whistle your way back into the building.

616
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: Now it's mine, Now it's mine. Yes. And I wonder

617
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: if you're actually a bit more memorable because this.

618
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: Is ringing a bell yeah, well the kayak. I feel

619
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: like you're remembering more than a hint.

620
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is the thing that you I mean,

621
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: the story is that you gave it to your mom

622
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: or something. But like you're trying to keep it safe

623
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: in a river, that's where they go.

624
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you're not going.

625
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: To get me there.

626
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I've definitely seen them there before they go.

627
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: But they go, but like they go fast.

628
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: Either go in them or there and they're moving or

629
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: they need to be locked off in someway.

630
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: I thought, put a pebble inside it. It'll weigh it down.

631
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: It's not going anywhere.

632
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: And the river is the river.

633
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: You know.

634
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: If it's later in the river, no big deal. But

635
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: now that we're finding out.

636
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: Rivers and also at the river twice, even if you

637
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: go to the same spot, it's changed because you're different

638
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: or something.

639
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: The river that should have been a signal to you

640
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: that's a clue that you can't just go back.

641
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: I thought that was more about like me as a person,

642
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: that you're never the same person.

643
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: It is, but it's also about the river.

644
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: It's also about the river. I was just a little

645
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: Oh it was a me thing, Okay. I was focused

646
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: on myself, which is my camera. We've got three, you

647
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: know what, one.

648
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Only got covered? Yeah, let him know about ten years

649
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: year old Tom. Season two where the kids are acting

650
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: so weird.

651
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I don't know Paul Rust who cast

652
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: you on Love Your Your Front.

653
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: He did put me in the show. Yeah, and shout

654
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: out to Bang round Man as well. One of the

655
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: voices on ten year old Tom?

656
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: Why are you attacking ten year old Tom? It's a

657
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: nice show.

658
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: I didn't I'm attacking I said, this show where the

659
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: kids act so weird? Is that?

660
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Where's the lie? I think it's good that allowed to

661
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: be no lies detected?

662
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: Oh maybe that's your doc. Yes you could. You could

663
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: have a metal detector, but it's for lies. Yes, and

664
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: you two could go around.

665
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Go around, go to Washington, yes, and scan some of

666
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: those fat cats and the detector will be like going

667
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: off like crazy.

668
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: And so you're filming us. It's seventy million, so that

669
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: you will need all three of these cameras, right, because

670
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: it's the camera. Film's a different different cameras.

671
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you can't shoot crashing on that. It just

672
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: you simply cannot. You might want to, and I wouldn't

673
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Speaker 1: blame you.

674
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: So they are supposed to be film cameras. Rochelle recently

675
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: has managed to make them not film cameras. Budget so

676
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: we'll do a whole episode and do some of our

677
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: most amazing like physical bits that we've ever done, and

678
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: then and then we will be told afterwards at the

679
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: cameras work into not film cameras.

680
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I want to talk about one of the

681
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 6: most controversial moments from the SmartLess documentaries series that we should.

682
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Recreate, which is the guys get really mad at each

683
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: other over a bad guest being booked and generating like

684
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: a not good episode.

685
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: And do they name the guests?

686
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who it is, because they do two

687
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: shows in Boston and for one they have Conan and

688
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: for the other they have like some professor, like a

689
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: science expert or shape.

690
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: And they goes off. He does not care for science.

691
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't like science. I love science. I had a

692
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: failed science podcast on your former podcasting network. We were

693
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: compatriots at one point, right.

694
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 7: Okay, we had a big beating about Oh yeah, yeah,

695
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 7: that was the day we fought for you.

696
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: The day when Earwolf they brought everyone together and they said, look,

697
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: I know, I know, we have never had a podcast

698
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: that failed before, and it really seemed like we could

699
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: keep that going forever. Every single podcast we've ever done

700
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: has has been an incredible, roaring success.

701
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: But there's that old saying, you know, go to a river,

702
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: fifteenth through the wall always gets bloody. Say it again,

703
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: the fifteenth, the fifteenth one through the wall always gets bloody.

704
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: The fifteenth one through the wall always gets bloody.

705
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: And so they said, so we did.

706
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: We did fourteen really good podcasts.

707
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: We did a science podcast so fucked up. Yeah, this

708
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: podcast failed so hard. We will be selling our company

709
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: to a fucking newspaper.

710
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be selling to the spelling Bee.

711
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: First. First they did sell to basically like a new.

712
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: First, they sold the entire company to the spelling Bee.

713
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I love the spelling Bee.

714
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: Well that should have been part of the science because.

715
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could have really, you know, done

716
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: some or just a content with the spelling bee.

717
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Favorite word to spell go G I L L I

718
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Speaker 1: A N wow.

719
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: I mean, let's talk about Earwolf for a minute. Like

720
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: what was that conversation like with you where they.

721
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: Just like they said, smoked your ass, no more of this.

722
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: You know, I cried a little because I you know,

723
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: I like scientists.

724
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: It really set back the whole thing, the whole science thing.

725
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: I actually think when JB is going off.

726
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: It's because he hated my podcast, didn't listen to it.

727
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: But we're other ones that work, Yes, didn't I remember

728
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: at least two ologies.

729
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: Yes, everybody likes that.

730
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: It's big, big Patreon following. I'm trying to get a

731
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: piece the Layman.

732
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: What'say it again?

733
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Speaker 5: The Layman Gabris's show for howell.

734
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm that was nay Stitcher?

735
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: Oh is that?

736
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't know?

737
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Speaker 3: Can keep up my so just growled, Yeah, well.

738
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Speaker 2: Here we're all on I we're all doing Yeah, I

739
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: intermitten fasting yours just does that normally.

740
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Speaker 1: It's got to be part of your window.

741
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Well it might be doing I f what are we doing?

742
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: What's happening? Oh? Thank you so much. I'm like, you

743
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: are respect to listeners, so I won't be.

744
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: Crunching on it.

745
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you were hungry.

746
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: And so okay, what you want to do a doc.

747
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: Yes, you want to do it. That's what you could

748
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: have used at the River.

749
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: So now I'm actually wondering, you know if you do

750
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: you like the spelling bee?

751
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: Wait what what could I have used the River a documentary?

752
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: So I got it, got it, got it, got it,

753
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: got it fun fun because a while while because I had.

754
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Speaker 1: It's thrilling to you. It's always a surprise, you go,

755
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: We're really going to get out of this one. It's

756
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: nice actually to have and be like, wait, what did

757
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: you say? Instead of most of the time people are

758
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: just like they just like ignore it.

759
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: No, I have to just get in the pun mine,

760
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: you know. It's like I have to get there where

761
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: you guys are. I have to meet you where you are.

762
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: Three camp three film camera.

763
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Three film camera technicolor.

764
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: Each is filming a separate section of the screen. Because

765
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Speaker 2: we are going seventy milimeter.

766
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: People will be going, I don't want to get in

767
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: a fight. I don't want to get in a pissing

768
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: contest with Nolan over the theater space.

769
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 3: That's why not releasing it.

770
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: It's i'm ax, Yeah, it's going imax. We will cruise

771
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: is not thrilled.

772
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: We will am I which one is it.

773
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: Let's go big, Let's go bigger than i'm a.

774
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: Let's go bigger. Let'st's go.

775
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Panorama. Let's take it back.

776
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Yes, let's finallyama the cinerama.

777
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: Don't in the panorama cinerud.

778
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: We do it in the dome. Exclusive to the Dome,

779
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: the Hayden Panetarium. Those the only places that can play

780
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: our show.

781
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, what about this? What about this?

782
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: Hit me?

783
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: What if you find a way to project it onto

784
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: a body of water and then you could kayak to

785
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: the ocean and then you.

786
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: Don't actually have a kayakity work.

787
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: I took it while someone in the river.

788
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: This is the podcast. This is the podcast. We find

789
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: the kayak.

790
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: This is the podcast.

791
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: This is the podcast. This is the podcast.

792
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: Is the podcast?

793
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: No, this is the no, no, no, this is the podcast. Yes,

794
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: we find your kayak. I agree, Yeah, Okay, you get

795
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Speaker 3: in it.

796
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Okay, the first step is finding this.

797
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 3: Kayak that's gonna take a while.

798
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: In the ocean.

799
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: It feels like we're skipping a lot of steps that

800
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: lead to the kayak.

801
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: What we get in someone's car, we drive to the ocean.

802
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: We look sounds like you're not offering your car.

803
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: Not someone's car, so yours your apparently might be useful.

804
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: With the tennis ball situation. Driving toward the ocean is

805
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: not something that I'm supposed to.

806
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: I'll meet you there, Okay, I'll put a GoPro in

807
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: your car. That's how we'll film you. Guys. When you're

808
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: in the for the car scenes. Okay, will mount it

809
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: so it'll be getting footage of YouTube driving and I

810
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: won't have to be anywhere near you the Sonic guys,

811
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: like the Sonic.

812
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: Is going to feel like the Sonic guys.

813
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: This would be great for you. Yes, you guys, which

814
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: foods do you eat? Are you? Why?

815
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: Why?

816
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: Why is this not branded? You could be getting sponsorships.

817
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: It is branded. It's branded by the weapons manufacturer.

818
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: Ball Weapons Manufacturing.

819
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they no longer make Mason jars like guns.

820
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm average using for lac coloam Okay. They

821
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: paid me to be here today, not you. Sorry, that's

822
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: my deal that I worked out. It's direct to me.

823
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't know if I would actually want

824
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: to be paid by That's something that makes the most

825
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: dangerous product on Earth.

826
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: But now they have warnings.

827
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: Coffee is so hot it is devastatingly addictive. If you

828
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: have too much, you could actually explode.

829
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, you can't go to sleep

830
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: after you have it.

831
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: And immediately alive. But if you want to promote something

832
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: like that, then by all means go off.

833
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: You like science, let's talk about something so the human animal,

834
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: through thousands of years of evolution, has never managed to

835
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: create an alternate mechanism for laying completely vulnerable during the

836
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: third of its life. Does that mean sleep's important? I

837
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: think it's gotta be so excuse me. Did you just

838
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: fall asleep? You proved my point.

839
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: You proved that's how important is That's how you have

840
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: to do it to escape?

841
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: What were you talking about?

842
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: He's talking about see. I sort of wonder what you

843
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: were doing on your science podcast, and I guess that

844
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: this is why it had to be destroyed.

845
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: It went okay, back to the back to the documentary. Okay,

846
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: so you are jealous of the SmartLess people detected. So

847
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: that's good. It could be like a grudge, dock.

848
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: I would like it to feel like we are doing

849
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: a documentary at them.

850
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good.

851
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Are there any have you done that show?

852
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 3: No? Okay, I'm here. I want to be here.

853
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry with you two.

854
00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: No.

855
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 3: I chose this was It was like you know with

856
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: you know, with late night bookings, they're very competitive with

857
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: each other and they'll be like you can do Bear,

858
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: but then you can't do Kimmel or you know, they

859
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: like morning you guys, know.

860
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: You do Jimmy, but then you can't do James, so

861
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: that it's the.

862
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: Same deal with you and SmartLess. I don't know if

863
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: this if you've been made aware of that's what's going on.

864
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: That's why we can't.

865
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I like to support up and coming podcasts

866
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: like you guys.

867
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Have only been kind of underground, like the music you

868
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: listen to late night bands, not this, but the big

869
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: commercial stuff.

870
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: And you haven't been at it for that long. This

871
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: is new.

872
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're coming into our own We're stepping into

873
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: our power right now, aren't we.

874
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm starting to really zero in on what the show

875
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: could be.

876
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: What could the show be.

877
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: If it's Imax.

878
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: Gues.

879
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: I wonder if we could get a little drone to

880
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: do like a very slow fly over just from that

881
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: corner of the room to this one. That's fun and

882
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: so at the beginning it's like you're fun storing over

883
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: the podcast.

884
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: Maybe for the finale, the drone could blow me up.

885
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: I'd like to see that.

886
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I don't think anyone would be able to.

887
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: That's watching it.

888
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: That's something they never do. And the iMacs like nature

889
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: documentaries and stuff, they're following like a like a gazelle

890
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: that they're running through the forest and you never see

891
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: a target.

892
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: It's never a target strike. And I think that we

893
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: should really acknowledge like that, Yes you know we're we

894
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: are using a drone and let the drone fulfill its

895
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: purpose that eliminate me in order to to service my family,

896
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: which we talked about that be vanishing would maybe be

897
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: something that would stop them from.

898
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: You know what would also be fun. You know all

899
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: those stand up specials where they start backstage with the comics.

900
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that because it's like, I

901
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: don't want to see the fucking jokes. I want to

902
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: see you getting hype.

903
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah we could do out with you.

904
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: I drink a big water.

905
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah we start, but we start.

906
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: Get a hug from my manager. I don't have one,

907
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: but if I don't.

908
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 2: This is actually what we were hearing. I think.

909
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: Again, okaycause I have a digestion issue. So what what

910
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: of it?

911
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Did you see Kevin's shirt?

912
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we talked about this because I was early

913
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: you to relate, but I was actually early, so we

914
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: had a full conversation.

915
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: What's on your shirt?

916
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 5: It's uh chain in Pittsburgh called the Promante Brothers Thursday

917
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: as Brothers.

918
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and what are they famous for? Took a sip?

919
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: This is a great time, A great time to take

920
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: a sip.

921
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: To the sandwiches.

922
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: What I couldn't understandwich? They're famous for putting the French

923
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: fries in the sandwich show?

924
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: Could explain your digestion this year a little bit.

925
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't think we can do a food show.

926
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: We can't. What's wrong with that food is some of

927
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: the most dangerous. It is actually ceial on earth. Well,

928
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: you cannot, so by all means, go off if you're

929
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: interested in doing a show that that promotes food.

930
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: Of the people have evably hot, done it in irresponsible ways.

931
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: But it's so hot, it's a lot of it needs

932
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: to be cooked or you get sick, and uh, you're

933
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: asking choke.

934
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: There's no direct there's almost some of it has directions

935
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: on it, but most of it has no directions on

936
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: the food anything.

937
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: Like when you buy a cucumber, it.

938
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't have doesn't zero information. One of the sometimes doesn't

939
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: even say cucumber.

940
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So what are you interested in? I'm hearing

941
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: a lot of no's, but I'm not hearing a lot

942
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 3: of guesses. So it's like, you know, honesty, when you're pitching,

943
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: you have to if you're going to say no to

944
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: somebody else's pitch, you can't just say no. You have

945
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: to have a better idea.

946
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, my idea is that that your idea is bad.

947
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: That is my idea.

948
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: So why am I here?

949
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. Like this is like this is

950
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: part of the whole thing of like if we could

951
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: have gotten you when we originally tried to book you

952
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: six years ago, before your team like came at us

953
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: and like sent us all like legal material and ship,

954
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: then maybe we would have been able to buy. Now

955
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: have gotten to market with a documentary, we can agree on.

956
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: What's the team? How's the team feeling about the team.

957
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: At this point?

958
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: I didn't tell them about this today. I'm gonna be honest.

959
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: That makes more sense to me because there's no way.

960
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: That's how you got it. I admire you guys. You

961
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: got it done.

962
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: And so that's that's that's what the pimple sticker is for.

963
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: It's a disguise because.

964
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: This pimple is so distinctive to me, that's.

965
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: Perfect skin. That can't be Gilly, who's the team, right?

966
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: Now who are we Who are we working with?

967
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: My mom batting first?

968
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: My mom?

969
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: Fire ass collar and fire Okay, her dog.

970
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: In center fields, Mom's dog.

971
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: Yep, my mom, it's.

972
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: A dog's name.

973
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: Fella.

974
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: That's gonna cause a lot of trouble at the park.

975
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: Calla okay, fire fella.

976
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: Okay.

977
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Yes, okay, can you imagine at the park? Yes? Yeah,

978
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: as well as well, I'll come there.

979
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm coming here.

980
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 3: Now are you done?

981
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: It's time to go.

982
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: All the fellas leave the apologies.

983
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they leave their dogs there.

984
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 3: Chaos, all right, they're fired.

985
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: Chaos.

986
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: It's time to move on.

987
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: Okay. Who who SmartLess Guys have? Are there? Are there

988
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: teams on the doc series?

989
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: Teams are teaming as well.

990
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 3: Who's on their team?

991
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: There's two give us the SmartLess Guys team.

992
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 5: There's two private jet pilots and they help when there

993
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: guys are horsing around and they break a door in

994
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 5: the plane. So then the pilots fix a fix the door.

995
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: Who the team broke the door?

996
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: SmartLess Guys are going to ham You got a horse

997
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: around more? I man, he's done the show.

998
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: He did our show.

999
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I know one of the smartlest Guys team.

1000
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: I got our nets development guy's phone number. Should we

1001
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: just reach out to him?

1002
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: On the show?

1003
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 5: Engineer Devin too.

1004
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: On that show York he works at SmartLess.

1005
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: He works SmartLess?

1006
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: Who was the engineer on on Failed Science.

1007
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 3: We don't need to talk about that. It's not their fault.

1008
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: Okay, we're getting engineered.

1009
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,959
Speaker 2: You don't remember, We.

1010
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: Don't need to talk about it.

1011
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: That's this is like Kevin's about to get his ass curved.

1012
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: keV Hi, Devin, what's up, Bud?

1013
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 5: You're on a Hollywood handbook?

1014
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it never happened. You are.

1015
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 5: We're working on making a documentary how our.

1016
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: Booking is supposed to go by the way, Like if

1017
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: you just do that, people just say hell yeah when

1018
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: we reach out.

1019
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 5: We're trying to make a documentary like the SmartLess Boys,

1020
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 5: and we're wondering if you could give us some help.

1021
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah, absolutely, Okay, take it away.

1022
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: You're chief.

1023
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: Do you have any tipsy dies he get to be

1024
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: in the documentary?

1025
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 5: Are you in the at all?

1026
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: Uh No, I've.

1027
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: Only met one third of them.

1028
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: Let's guess, let's guess, gotta be gotta be Sean Ye

1029
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: it certainly, yes, absolutely was because he engineered any doubt, because.

1030
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: He engineers and you said they don't have any spin offs,

1031
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: but he does engineer Sean Hayes's Will and Grace recap podcast.

1032
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: I didn't know that we could do a Love recap podcast.

1033
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:33,959
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I actually produced recap. I'm actually a little

1034
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: bit higher up in the world these days.

1035
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: He produces the the Will and Grace, uh spin off podcast.

1036
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: So what he said?

1037
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that first.

1038
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did they get Was it shot on film?

1039
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 5: Was it shot on film?

1040
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: It's love? Yeah?

1041
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: How they get the cameras?

1042
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: How they get the cameras? Yeah?

1043
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: Great question, This is huge.

1044
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: We almost forgot to talk about that.

1045
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: I almost want my panavision today.

1046
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Think it's I think it was a rental.

1047
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't buy them. See that's I would have

1048
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: bottom in the long term.

1049
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: That would have saved them some money. I think the danger.

1050
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, just buy the equipment and then rented out to

1051
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: other productions.

1052
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: The smartest team horsing around like they do.

1053
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: Actually cameras did they have going? Oh got at least

1054
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: twelve shoot twelve film camera?

1055
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: We're only talking about great in this deca vision.

1056
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: And what was the pitch deck, like for the for

1057
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: the dock.

1058
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so short, you wouldn't believe it.

1059
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: We're just gonna film these guys.

1060
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: It was so short, it was to number it just

1061
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: the pitch dock was the number eighty million.

1062
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: Could you like give us some like outtakes from the

1063
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: podcast what didn't.

1064
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Make it to air?

1065
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: We can face Can we use those?

1066
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: Can we use some stuff huting room floor? Yeah?

1067
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: Are there any fun areas?

1068
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: You know, the guy that swept up the unused like

1069
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: film footage, like the guy that like, you know how

1070
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: sometimes you can get a big bag of hair from the.

1071
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: What you know how if you go at the end

1072
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: of the barbershop day, you can just for free eat

1073
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: all the hair that it's like.

1074
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Still pretty fresh. They can't they can't use it the

1075
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: next Yeah, they're not.

1076
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: Allowed to use it the following day, so they just

1077
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: have to give it away. But it's good. Yeah if

1078
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: you wait outside.

1079
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: So we get that, Devin, I don't have promoted to

1080
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: the bag of hair clips. I wasn't allowed access to it.

1081
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: They were kept in a kind of a locked bin.

1082
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Basically you get into it and I was like giving

1083
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: the code. He's like taking over.

1084
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Being like this to Alpha or something like he's really

1085
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: pushing me around on my own show. Well, I mean

1086
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: like I feel like I've just vanished.

1087
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 3: Say to the eighty million dollar man, I mean, what

1088
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: what do you to say?

1089
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: That's right?

1090
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: Ten years three podcasting networks later.

1091
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Tell me hundred times over, what do you.

1092
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: Think is the secret to your success? What can we

1093
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: learn from you? Mmm?

1094
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: God, that's a good question. I don't know anyone anyway.

1095
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: I know he's going to say, because.

1096
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: The secret to my success is just is just doing

1097
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: the work, doing the work and doing it well.

1098
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: Kevin's phone is so loud? How do you get millions loud?

1099
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: Like it's just everything's like too loud, right?

1100
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: Who's the network for the doc series?

1101
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: Max?

1102
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: Oh, it's Max. Call them.

1103
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't want to hold you up, killing man,

1104
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 2: good T shirt.

1105
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: We know that they have to. You probably have a

1106
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 3: lot of like money to count or something. It is.

1107
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: It is funny because I'm literally in a meeting right now.

1108
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: But this instead who who's in the meeting?

1109
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: All the marketing people talking about launching the show that

1110
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm producing.

1111
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: So I should probably.

1112
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: Get back can you emerge calls?

1113
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: Can we get them on because that we could use

1114
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: them to help market The marketing for your podcast is

1115
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna be that different from how we would market this, right, that's.

1116
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 2: Right, pretty much pretty much the same. I would think.

1117
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you so much, Devin. Give us

1118
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: a lot to chew on for sure. Do you have

1119
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: to my first appearance on this show in two years? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: It's professional to have like other ship. It's unprofessional. I

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Speaker 2: have other ship to do. That's like the most professional

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Speaker 2: thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he said, yeah, be here now. But I think

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Speaker 3: you should just accept defeat. That's what I'm going to

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Speaker 3: say to you both. They've won.

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Speaker 2: They kind of won't let us who It's just like that,

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Speaker 2: like everything, like they won't let us be successful, and

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Speaker 2: they also won't let us fail.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you go more niche then, because micro micro

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Speaker 3: influencing is now. It's like, you don't want a huge following,

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Speaker 3: you want a small but dedicated following.

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Speaker 2: So you should micro influenced. Just before I did the show, Yes.

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Speaker 3: So you gotta go more niche. This is you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not the Hollywood handbook, it's the Hollywood hand

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Speaker 3: more niche game.

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Speaker 2: Hand More Niche Say Again

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Speaker 3: By Hollywood Handbook