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Speaker 1: Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio.

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Speaker 2: Podcast Decades Night on the Mass Singer last night. It

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Speaker 2: was so fun. Babe, what's your favorite decade?

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Speaker 3: I love like old American movies, so I like like

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Speaker 3: the sixties. Oh yeah, but I think for music, my

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Speaker 3: favorite decade is the eighties.

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Speaker 4: It's a good decade.

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Speaker 3: It's a good decade. It's a powerful decade. A lot

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Speaker 3: of ballads and.

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Speaker 2: Two awesome people were born in the eighties. I gotta

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Speaker 2: go nineties. Really, you love nineties, love the music, love

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Speaker 2: the era, love the non technology.

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Speaker 3: I love the non technology. Eighties is even better than

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Speaker 3: the n eighties.

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Speaker 4: That's true, That's very true.

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Speaker 2: So first up to form was Yorkie, raised by a

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Speaker 2: single mom, keys on a leash, grew up fast and

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Speaker 2: people say she's cold Judges Gavel, so I think a

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Speaker 2: little legal trouble. She's had marital problems. She's saying stop

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Speaker 2: in the Name of Love by the Supremes, which is

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Speaker 2: such a fun song. And Jenny guest Erica Jane Robin

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Speaker 2: Laurie Laughlin Ken said cald Richards and I again one

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Speaker 2: thousand percent was like this is Erica Jane A because

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Speaker 2: of the Teddy Mellencamp story that she did. But also,

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Speaker 2: you know, I remember meeting her. She was actually she

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Speaker 2: used to dance or she danced with my old Dancing

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Speaker 2: with the Stars partner, and I could you know, she

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Speaker 2: she does have she comes off, like she said, people

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Speaker 2: say she's coold. She's actually really sweet when you get

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Speaker 2: into a conversation with her. But I could see why

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Speaker 2: people would think that, Well.

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Speaker 3: She's soundly good and she's played the part where ill

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Speaker 3: of tugging on people's heartstrings with like the the quote

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Speaker 3: of her mom, you know, ultimate protector.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a I think Yorki is

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Speaker 2: just really fun like she she did a great job.

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Speaker 2: So that was a great start to you know, the

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Speaker 2: Group C finalists. And then next up was the mad

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Speaker 2: Scientist Monster, so some of the clues were a cowboy

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Speaker 2: hat obviously.

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Speaker 4: Actually he went solo.

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Speaker 3: Which wasn't received though wasn't received.

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Speaker 2: Well, which is why I still think that it's Ronnie

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Speaker 2: Dune from Brooks and Dunn, because Ronnie went solo.

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Speaker 4: From Brooks and Done.

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Speaker 2: So I'm off of Scotty McCreary because I don't remember

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Speaker 2: Scotty McCreary being in a band, but he's sang love

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Speaker 2: Yourself by Justin Bieber love the Uh how he I

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Speaker 2: love a country person singing that song such a good song.

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Speaker 3: It was such a good song, but he sang it

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Speaker 3: so well.

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Speaker 2: He's amazing. Yeah, it has to be Ronnie Dunn. I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to be shocked. But Jenny said Blake Shelton,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think. Ken said Brad Paisley, which I

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Speaker 2: toured with Brad. I don't think it sounds anything like

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Speaker 2: him personally. And then Rita said Billy ray Cyris. So

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Speaker 2: he did say he performed with someone from season four,

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Speaker 2: So I might have to go back into the roll

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Speaker 2: of decks of seasons. Ronnie, I mean, I would just

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Speaker 3: Country music hell of a lot better than I do.

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Speaker 2: So obviously, I just really does sound like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see who that person is.

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Speaker 4: Their'd up to perform? Was Nessy your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just love the character so in the song.

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Speaker 3: So what this song is in my top ten favorite songs.

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Speaker 4: In Fight the Ceiling by Ario Speedwagon.

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Speaker 3: Ario Speedwagon. There, I think it's eighties.

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Speaker 4: What decade that's done.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's eighties really possibly creaked into the nineties.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, in my top ten of songs, so in

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's the Lockness Monster and as a

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Speaker 3: Scottish do you know we actually put on a Scottish

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Speaker 3: accent on the show?

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Speaker 4: Really yeah?

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Speaker 3: In the battle oh yeah, he said you're right as

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Speaker 3: in and then he said in a really Scottish accent.

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Speaker 3: Well played. He's playing homage to these locknest routes even

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Speaker 4: So funny enough.

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Speaker 2: He actually opened for Ario Speedwagon, whoever this is. He's

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Speaker 2: obviously an artist, like duh, that's he's got a great voice.

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Speaker 2: You know, he opened up for Rio Speedwagon. I love

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Speaker 2: his stage clue. Justin Bieber and Charlie Pooth covered his

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Speaker 2: music and he scored major dad points. I just think

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Speaker 2: that's adorable. The other clues I have no idea. Bumblebee

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Speaker 2: is tread mill Snowman, like couldn't tell you writing love songs?

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Speaker 2: I still so Robin, said Darryl Hall. I think I

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Speaker 2: said that last week too. I'm gonna go with Daryl Hall. Rita,

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Speaker 2: said Dave Matthews, who I love Dave matt that was

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Speaker 2: like my high school sweetheart, favorite guy.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's such good songs, Mathews so can't like off

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Speaker 2: the top of my head. I'm not to go back

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Speaker 2: onto my I'll tell you, I'll pull it up right now.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you one of my favorites, and it's

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Speaker 3: I know the name. I can't pluck her a song.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you one song. Oh yeah, I can

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Speaker 2: tell you one song. Oh crash into me.

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Speaker 4: See fashion to me? Okay.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, uh the space between you I got as I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have known known of these titles, but they're so good.

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Speaker 2: All right. So then there was the Battle Royale. It

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Speaker 2: was Yorki versus NeSSI, and it was hard to handle

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Speaker 2: by Otis Redding. Great song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both of them are excellent. They sang really well,

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Speaker 3: but NeSSI.

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Speaker 4: Was obviously a stronger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah vocally, NeSSI wins the Battle Royale and is moving

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Speaker 2: on to the Lucky Six and revealing Yorki. So Robin's

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Speaker 2: last guest was Lourie Jenny said, Erica Jane Kent said

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Speaker 2: caw Richards, Rita said Paris Hilton and Dunda Da Dun

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Speaker 2: Yorki is Erica Jane the one and only housewife, and

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Speaker 2: obviously she had some legal troubles with her ex husband

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Speaker 2: and all the things did you Yeah, her like ex

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Speaker 2: and then I don't know, I didn't really deep dive

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Speaker 2: and then lost all his money and then she was

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Speaker 2: like hot shopping at Marshall's or something, and I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with shopping at Marshall's. My entire wardrobe

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Speaker 2: is Amazon, So all good girl, you do you boo.

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Speaker 4: But it was Erica Jane. She was great.

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Speaker 2: We unfortunately don't have her because she wanted to, you know,

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Speaker 2: share her story on her podcast, which awesome. So we

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Speaker 2: will take a break, and then I know you've got

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Speaker 2: a lot to do today, so I'm going to take

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Speaker 2: this one solo and it's going to be me and

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Speaker 2: my girl, Chrissy Metz. First of all, I love you.

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Speaker 2: You're so sweet. We met a gazillion years ago. I

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Speaker 2: can't even remember what award shows at, but it was

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Speaker 2: a while ago, and you were lovely and you were

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Speaker 2: so sweet, and it's good to chat with you. I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited about your book because I love all things God.

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Speaker 2: Obviously my kids. We have a little devotional book that

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Speaker 2: I read to them every night. And what I love

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Speaker 2: about even just the title of your book is when

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Speaker 2: I talk to God, I talk about feelings. And that's

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Speaker 2: just it's so important to start at an early age

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Speaker 2: because even when I talk, you know, I talk my

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Speaker 2: daughter and we do the little devotional and then I'll

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Speaker 2: ask us, is there anything you want to talk about

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Speaker 2: or is anything that you're feeling? And I think it's

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Speaker 2: such an important piece that I didn't get as a

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Speaker 2: was first of all, if I had the comfort of

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Speaker 2: knowing that someone other than my parents, but more of

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Speaker 2: a God was there protecting and watching, how much more,

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Speaker 2: how much more at peace I would be as a kid,

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Speaker 2: but yet would have led probably way better into my adulthood.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you literally just said it all, and that

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Speaker 1: is part of the reason why I even decided to

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Speaker 1: do the book. I never really felt seen or heard

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Speaker 1: as a kid. I was a middle child of five,

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Speaker 1: and like, you know, our parents do the best they can,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, and my mom's generation was like they were

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Speaker 1: you know, they were seen, not heard as children and

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Speaker 1: so it's never cultivated, and then you never get to

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Speaker 1: first book around to churches and schools and all the

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Speaker 1: kids always wanted to talk about their feelings. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: know that if you treat the soil, because unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 1: that was like the desire behind the second book. Also,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the kids really they were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And for me, I'm like, yeah, okay, maybe we can

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: For you, what is what is the feeling or the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, worthiness, worthiness, And I have abandonment issues you know,

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Speaker 2: What do you when you were reading the books and

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Speaker 2: didn't you know, research when you were doing this book

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Speaker 1: I think it was overall that they just wanted to

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Speaker 1: which ultimately is not about the sandwich, the toy, the friend, whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's so hard though, but I think learning that as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you have a beautiful voice, like I do.

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Speaker 1: not productive. It's not it's not kind.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, what do you want the biggest takeaway to

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Speaker 2: I am I'm adding to Kart this is going to

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Speaker 2: I'm going to read to my kiddos. But what do

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Speaker 2: you what is your hope with the book?

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Speaker 1: I hope that it fosters conversation between the reader and

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Speaker 1: the audience, whoever that might be on either side. That

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Speaker 1: whether it's oh, actually I've never told my kid I

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Speaker 1: felt nervous before, or my kid I was never said,

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Speaker 1: oh I feel frustrated, or that they have something welling

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Speaker 1: up inside but they don't know what in the world

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Speaker 1: it is. That perhaps they've seen through the pictures and

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Speaker 1: the animals expressing their emotions, which Lisa Fields are illustrated

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Speaker 1: in such an amazing job. She's incredible that maybe they

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Speaker 1: could feel less alone, that they could relate and then

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Speaker 1: in turn hopefully communicate, you know, like, hey, you know

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Speaker 1: Bobby in school took this away from me and instead

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Speaker 1: of maybe not that we can't cry or scream or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but to say, you know what, that made me frustrated.

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Speaker 1: I have a name to that feeling and then to

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Speaker 1: be able to communicate it and then say, well, it's

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Speaker 1: okay to feel frustrated, it's okay to feel whatever whatever

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Speaker 1: it is that you're feeling. But just so much of

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Speaker 1: any any of I think development is like feeling seen

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Speaker 1: and heard. So I'm hoping that the larger takeaway is yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hear you.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's all we want is to be heard, not

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Speaker 2: you know, for someone to fix it, for someone to

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Speaker 2: you know, say well, this is just just hear me.

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Speaker 2: Just and I you don't say it to my husband,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need you to fix it. I

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Speaker 2: just need you to hear me. I don't need you

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Speaker 2: to develop. I literally just want to be heard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just for five minutes, can I men for a

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Speaker 1: sec and just let me get it off my chest?

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Speaker 2: And that's what we forget to do that with our

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Speaker 2: kids though, because it's like the second my kids said something,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well let me do this.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually trying to fix it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also just yeah, who is that person's mom?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: And I guess because we're territorial. I don't have kids,

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Speaker 1: but I have a dog that's and I have ten

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Speaker 1: nieces and nephews, and I'm like, wait a second, so

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Speaker 1: I know those feelings, but just just being able to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was I wasn't sure how I felt,

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Speaker 1: but I think it might be nervous. I'm feeling somebody

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Speaker 1: I haven't felt before on this first day of school

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Speaker 1: or whatever, that they could just sort of go back

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Speaker 1: to and bolster their confidence to feel like, hey, my

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Speaker 1: feelings are important enough for you to listen to them.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so I mean again treating the soil.

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Speaker 2: I love it so good, Chrissy, Thank you so much everyone,

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Speaker 2: and go get the book. When I talk to God,

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Speaker 2: I talk about feelings and we look forward to everything

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Speaker 2: that you got come up. Thank you, Thanks Carl, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,