1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cow Guys, are you 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us, and bar Garcia 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, November seventh, twenty twenty two, 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number sixty five. Welcome to latest edition 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: of The Break Life, s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: we're presented by mill of Light, the only beer of 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. We are. We've got Nick Eatman, We've 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: got Isaiah stand Back here joining us today. It is 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: not still our mix up week, so don't get that 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: in your head. We just got a couple of people out. 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Brian nursing a lowell little head cole flu something like that. 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Not feeling great. Yeah it is. I know a lot 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: of people who've had it and it don't sound like 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: as good. Like good luck trying to get into the 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: doctor's office. Yeah, I know, yeah, you figured that out today, 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, Amber's not out today. She's out today 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: as well. Hopefully she'll be back tomorrow. I think Brian's 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: actually out for two days. He'll be back on Wednesday. 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: But we got Isaiah willing to jump in and I'm 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: stilling for us and UH and so we got actually 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the day. I wanted to take some time to go 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: back through. There were some things that we talked about 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: with my crew last week. I had Barry Church on 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: with me, I had a see Ayisha Morrison on with 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: me and UH and we did a lot of recapping 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: of the first half, and I would be interested to 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: hear some of the answers that you guys have to 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: some similar questions. So we're gonna go through some of 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: that stuff before we do that. Though I could play 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a game too. I should be like, brought us play 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: a game, even though if you got a game, I've 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: talked to you six times this morning before, none of 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: it about the show, and then I bring this on 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: on that you got a game. No, I don't really 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: have a game game, but like you say, you have 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: a game because it's similar to a game. But whatever, 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: it's not really a game, but it could be. It 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: could be a game. You're all over the place all right, 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: go with your welcome to me. I mean, like, no, 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: whatever saying I'm saying later on in the show. We 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: could talk about it. We did on our website. We 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: did like first half, best moment, worst moment, best is 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: that what you have to It's on my rundown. It's 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: something we might get to if we had some time left. 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Oka every mind, he's looking at his notes ship he's 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: still in a test score. You should have brought that 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: up somewhere. He's just gonna trust me to know to know. 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I got this, man, I got this. I've been doing 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: this for a long time. I got this, all right. 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: I've been doing it a long time too. You know. Yeah, 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: get your headphones, I have nothing. All right, let's actually 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: let's get to some news. I do want to get 57 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: your opinions. Uh. This weekend there was some news that 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: that I don't know if you call it broke, but 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: there was new news that people were talking about that 60 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were firmly considering Odell Beckham junior Um. I 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: didn't put much in to it because we know around 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: here the Cowboys are as do a lot of teams. 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna do their due diligence they're gonna look at 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: every option. And that's what it sounded more like to 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: me than than maybe what was being reported in when 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't playing, you still want to see and 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: figure out, if you're other news outlets, how you can 68 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: get the Cowboys involved because it helps that. All being said, 69 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: what would you guys think of that? Like, are you 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: guys in the camp of Hey, the Cowboys should really 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: make an aggressive play to get an Odell Beckham Junior. No, 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: not aggressive? No. So I like OBJ. I like him 73 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: as a competitor, I like him as an effective football player. 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: He is one of those generational guys. He's a specimen 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: all those things. He overcame a lot in his career already. 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Um created, right, huh he said the other day by yea, 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: he's created, not born. Yeah, it's two different things. He's 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: one of the guys that's in a good way to 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: put it. Yeah, he's just who are we talking about 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: the other day on on Hang with the Boys when 81 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: you said that somebody's created full of guys that are 82 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, I mean most guys are born. There's 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: a handful of guys that just created. And OBJ is 84 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: one of those guys. I mean to come back from all, 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, to go through all the stuff he went 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: through early in his career, okay, and then to overcome 87 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: his injury right to come back from Aco and be effective, 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: go out through win the Super Bowl, and unfortunately, you know, 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: he's saying another one. He's going to come back. If 90 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: he comes back healthy, he's going to help somebody. He's 91 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna help a team. He's gonna be come into the 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver room and be a valuable asset, be a 93 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: guy that you get depend on. Hopefully he gets us 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: get hot going into the playoffs. That's why a team's 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: gonna bring him in. What we do know about OBJ 96 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: up to this point, all right, up to this point, 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: is that he is a very passionate receiver. I put 98 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: him in a passionate category. I don't call him a 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: problem guy. You know, I've been with guys TiO, I've 100 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: been with Moss. He's are passionate players. He wants the ball. 101 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be just a guy that's president. 102 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be a guy that's just in 103 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: the locker room, that is on the field being a decor. 104 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: He wants to have an impact on the game. The 105 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: thing is with certain individuals such as a OBJ, when 106 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: they are so passionate and they don't get their fix, 107 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: they can be a potential problem for you in the 108 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: locker room. One of the issues I had with Dallas 109 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: relieving themselves of a Marii Cooper was that you were 110 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: letting a true leader go and you were hoping that 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: you would have somebody else step into that fold. And 112 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that somebody has stepped into that fold 113 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: yet in all the areas in which they were hoping 114 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: would be filled. Ob J doesn't help that solution. In 115 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: that regard, he can potentially blow it up. And again 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: that's us knowing what he's been to this date. We 117 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 1: don't know how he would be coming off a second 118 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: acl understanding what role he's coming in. Is he gonna 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: be like a Jason Peters where I'm the veteran in 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the room now, We don't know. But what we do 121 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: know is he wants the ball, and I'm not sure 122 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: that his leadership would be valued in this locker room. 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: That's a tough one because everything you just said, like 124 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: the first part of it, all the good stuff, was like, Okay, 125 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: that's the stuff the Cowboys need. And then the so 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: called negative stuff which is based off perception, and you're 127 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: saying that based off of what we've seen, and he's 128 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: had enough sample size to go this is kind of 129 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: who he is. But you know, like I look at 130 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: it like is any of that a problem? Like I think, what, 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in your mouth, but when I'm 132 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: hearing from that is I look at it like maybe 133 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't want to hurt CDs feelings or Michael 134 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: gallups and maybe they need to be Maybe they need 135 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: to be rough a little bit. This is what this 136 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: team needs. You're saying a guy that could come help 137 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: the room, be a veteran and wants the football and 138 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: help this team. They're in playoff time and I could 139 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: see the good out of it. I just I don't 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: think they'll do it. I really don't think they'll do it. 141 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not really opposed to it though if they 142 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: If they do either, if it messes up the locker room, 143 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: then then shame on Dak, Shame on Zeke, shame on Tank, 144 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Shamon Micah. If it meant if he messes up your 145 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: locker room, then that's on you that I think. I 146 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: don't think I think they've established enough where that's not 147 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: going to happen. See the thing about it for me 148 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: is I hear what you guys are saying. Those aren't 149 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the things I most concerned about. And let me be clear, 150 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys wanted to do this, I'm not gonna 151 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: be like old. This is horrible because because you don't know, 152 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you don't know. And that's really the part that worries 153 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: me is you're talking about a guy that, now it's 154 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: coming off his second a cl You're talking about a 155 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: guy that's not a young player in the NFL. You're 156 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: talking about a player that at this point, the way 157 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I look at it, what is that time that it's 158 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: going to take once he's healthy, that's the first hurdle 159 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: then for him to get to a point where he's 160 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: actually the freak that he was. And is that still 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: attainable after two acls. I don't know. Maybe it is, 162 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Is it still attainable this year? I 163 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: don't need O'Dell to be good next year. I need 164 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: O'Dell to walk in here immediately be good because he's 165 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: got to meet They need help now. And that's not 166 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: something like the way I look at it is, he's 167 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: got to ramp up. Let's say, for example, the Cowboys 168 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: did this and he was ready to go within the 169 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: next two to three weeks. I would need him ramped 170 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: up and ready to go by end of season so 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: that when we hit the playoffs, like he is not 172 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: only past that hurdle of being healthy, he has resumed 173 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: his explosiveness. He is on the same page as Dak. 174 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Dak is on the same page with him. All these 175 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: things have to happen in that month of time. So 176 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: they're heading into the playoffs, You're getting the benefit of it. 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Otherwise it's not worth the move. And that's the part 178 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: that I'm more concerned about, is can can he still 179 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: do that? At this age with two acl service ken 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: he still do that? I don't question his physicality just 181 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: because of the standpoint. He's again he's he wasn't. He's 182 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: not one of those athletes that's just all right. He's 183 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: a good athlete. He's a freaking He's a freak. Yeah, right, 184 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: So you have to put him in a freak category. 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: So you the expectations that you would have were the 186 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: lack of confidence that you would have most players that 187 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: come back from something like this. First of all, he's 188 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: already showing you that he's overcame it first time. The 189 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: first time, that's two. Absolutely, now it's two. But guess 190 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: what for him, his understanding of what is going to 191 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: take to get back here's he's already done it. So 192 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: as an athlete or the biggest portion of getting injured, 193 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: trust me, I know, right, is can I get back 194 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: to form? Can I get back to shape? Right? Once 195 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: you sustain that injuries? Like crap? Am I ever going 196 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: to be the same guy again? He had those question 197 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: marks already and he overcame them. He came back, he 198 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: was that same dude. He was that same as impactful 199 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: as he had ever been in his career, and he 200 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: proved to himself and everybody else, Yeah, I could do this. Unfortunately, 201 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: sustained it again. Guess what, I know what it takes 202 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: to get back to where I was at before. But 203 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: that being said, and I think this can sometimes be 204 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: the biggest problem for athletes too, is their minds say 205 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: one thing, but at some point your body's like, yeah, 206 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: you think you can do this, you can't do this, 207 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: Like you don't have the ability. And that's more what 208 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm concerned about this not necessarily him thinking he can 209 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: get back, and he might actually think he's back. I 210 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: look at some of these and I'm not insane the 211 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: names some of these guys that are older who are 212 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: still putting out these videos showing themselves working out and 213 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, they don't look 214 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: great like anybody they in their minds, I still think 215 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: they still think I look good enough to play, and 216 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody else does. How many games 217 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: would you need him to play? Honestly, if you to 218 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: sign a OBJ. He's not He's still not from what 219 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: we understand, he's still not healthy until what next month. Well, 220 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: I did see, I did see this morning. They said 221 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: that it was I think it was Rappaport. Actually that 222 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: was reporting. I think he's on TV right now. I 223 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: think he was reporting that supposedly by the end of 224 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: this week or next week, he would be medically cleared. Okay, 225 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: Now again, I don't know what that means. Does that 226 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: mean he's He's just at the point where, now, okay, 227 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: ob J, you can go and run like I don't 228 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: know where he is in that recovery, right, and he 229 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: gotta be careful cleared by who. Yeah, I mean, because 230 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: when you get cleared by a team doctor, you know, 231 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: let's say like let's say Michael Gallo, he gets cleared 232 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: by the Cowboys doctor, like that's a big deal. He 233 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: comes out, but if he doesn't perform well or if 234 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: he has any kind of setback, that's huge to the 235 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: medical team. That's why that they're so cautious about it. So, 236 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: but who's clearing him? What independent doctor or whatever is 237 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: clearing him to play? Because what it's no skin off 238 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: their back if he comes out and he's not ready 239 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: to go. So that I mean, I'm not doctors or doctors, 240 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: and you would like to think all of them are 241 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: going to be honest and all that, but it's different 242 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: when it's not a team doctor. So that's that's what 243 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I don't know who. I just 244 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: want to know who's clearing them, because I mean, he 245 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure he has all the available resources. But like 246 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: my question mark is like, Okay, yeah, even OBJ came 247 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: back last year. I don't know how many games he played, Okay, 248 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: but there he was effective. He played seven games with 249 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: the Rams and he played another wait, six games with Cleveland. Okay, 250 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: there you go. So started seven games. He actually played eight, 251 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: but six with OA. So my outlook on OBJS, you're 252 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: probably asking him to play six games. Yes, and to 253 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: play six games, you said, Derek, he said like, I 254 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: just don't think it's worth it. I guess I just 255 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: want to didn't I didn't say that. No, No, you said. 256 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: The last thing you said was I don't know if 257 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: it would be worth it. Yes, if if he can't 258 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: get to the point where he's playing at the level 259 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: he was playing before, Okay, by the time he hit 260 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's not worth it. Yes, So worth worth 261 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: what though? Worth the time, worth the development of Jalen 262 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: Tolbert or James Washington, Worth worth the money, worth the 263 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: money worth because here's the deal. When you bring him 264 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: in the door, it's saying something to everybody else in 265 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room. So wait, wait, wait, but but 266 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: here's here's the problem. No, here's the problem with that. 267 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I think guys tend to they tend to 268 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: reach for whatever they think is the opportunity. If you're 269 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: telling if you bring him in that room, the opportunity 270 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: for somebody like Noah Brown changes right what he what 271 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: he was doing before. He doesn't have that same opportunity anymore. 272 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: So maybe his game goes down a little bit because 273 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: he's reaching his opportunity just got cut. Do you want 274 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: to really bring this guy in with the expectation to 275 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: the room, Like, hey man, we just brought in Odell 276 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior, But Oldell Jack Beckham Junior ain't really the 277 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: same obj that we knew he is. He's a he's 278 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: kind of a shell of that. And so that's why 279 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: one of the things when the word dan Quinn and 280 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: that name was being thrown around and potentially coming to 281 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, I had already experienced him in Seattle, and 282 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: I told everybody before he was ever a real candidate 283 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: and got sign. I said, this, dude, if you bring 284 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: him on, he will change the culture of this team 285 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: because it would being a competitive nature. Is nobody's gonna 286 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: just have secured spots, right, unless you're just a freak 287 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: guy like Michael Parts. Right, nobody just has their spots 288 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: sold up. Okay, you're gonna have to compete for it 289 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: every single play, and they're going to continue to bring 290 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: talent in to challenge you and make you elevate your game. 291 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: You either gonna elevate or you're gonna get out one 292 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: or the two. Are you're seeing that on defense? Now 293 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing that on defense. Maybe just maybe their offense 294 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: is like h that worked for them, Maybe we should 295 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: start doing the same thing. Right And if you don't 296 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: have if you have those guys in the locker room 297 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: that are unwilling, right or uncapable of stepping their game 298 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: up to that level of competition, then get them out 299 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: of here. Yeah. I get that, but right now, you 300 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: got what you got and I don't trade that lines gone, Yeah, 301 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you got what you got, So you getting them out 302 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: of here? That's the next year. That's not a this year. 303 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a I don't think it's 304 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: a coincidence that we saw the best of Noah Brown 305 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: when he was given the opportunity to step up and 306 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: assume more. Now does that change when you bring in 307 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: somebody like OBJ. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, And I 308 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: must be fair to him. I mean, I think Noah 309 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Brown has had a really good year based off of expectations. 310 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: To me, But the best of Noah Brown was five 311 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: catches for seventy five yards against the Bengals, I mean, 312 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and that helped them win. I mean they had to 313 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: have that to win the game. I look back at 314 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles game or a playoff game later in the 315 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: season and put him in the slot, and I just 316 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: wonder what defenses view him. Yeah, Odell's he's been okay 317 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: through a couple of games, series pretty good, had that 318 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: one good game. Maybe he's not the same, but there 319 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: he is in the slot on third and eight, as 320 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: opposed to Noah Brown. Does it? Does it? Does it 321 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: change thing? Does it? Does it free up CD more 322 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: or gallop on the other end? You know, I just 323 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: I still think having him there, I guess I'm selling 324 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: myself a little bit more. I was kind of on 325 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: the fence when the starter, but I'm just doing this. 326 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm okay. I just don't see the risk reward being 327 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: that big a deal. Now, this is what will happen 328 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: though you play. Let's say they lose to the Titans. Okay, 329 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: then Titans look pretty good on defense whatever. They should 330 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: have won that game last night. But stead they lose 331 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: to the Titans and Obj gets one target, and you 332 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: know there will be a headline on the website. Obj Colin. 333 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: They're not using me like they should. And that's a story. 334 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: You gotta deal with it and all that. They won't 335 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: do that if Jalen Tilbert says it, or if Washington 336 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: says it, they don't they'll do that for him, you know. 337 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: And so you have to deal with that. You have 338 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: to deal with your fourth third or fourth receiver. If 339 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: he's the squirrel boy, they'll find that, they'll go they'll 340 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: get him. You know. Anybody else that doesn't do anything 341 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: in a game wouldn't get talked to, but he would, 342 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: and he might say something, and then there's a story, 343 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: and you got to deal with that. That's my concerning Okay, 344 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: and that's fair. We see my greatest concern with this. 345 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: It's not his physicalist, not when he come back and 346 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: be effective, it's what he can potentially do to this 347 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: locker room that doesn't have sound leadership in that room. Yeah, 348 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: that's that's fair. And that's why over the years you 349 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: had backup quarterbacks that or hit quarterbacks that weren't in 350 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: the league. I'm not gonna name names, but there's quarterbacks 351 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: out there or they should go get him. They should 352 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: go get him. Yeah. And the reason why you don't 353 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: it's because now you've got the most popular backup quarterback 354 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: in the world and he's getting talked to him for 355 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: different reasons and all that kind of stuff, and it 356 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: just creates a distraction because it's not good enough. You'll 357 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: deal with distractions if they're catching ten passes for one 358 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: hundred yards. Deal, You'll deal with that until they're not. 359 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: But y'all think OBJ, is that's still that player? You 360 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: expect that he's ready to be that player right now. 361 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Not gonna say that he's that player, But does he 362 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: give you an edge? Yes? Absolutely, he gives you an 363 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: edge if he's even a shadow of what he was 364 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: last year in years prior to that. Yes, he adds 365 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: value because that's such an indicting statement on the rest 366 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: of this wide receiver chord. It's not because exciting. That's 367 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: why we're talking about I mean, right, you're not. Who 368 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: else are you putting a OBJ conversation from this lock 369 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: from this receiving group? Well, I mean, how anybody? But but 370 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: but that's also OBJ that we knew. I'm talking about 371 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: OBJ from last year, even OJ last night, And if 372 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: he's OBJ from last year, it is absolutely worth it. 373 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: You go get him. My question is is he still that? 374 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the point. But that's the thing that 375 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: every team in this league. He has all the leverage 376 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: right now. Because every team in this league that needs 377 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: help at receiver is going to talk to options. It's 378 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of options. He has all the leverage 379 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: right now, and he automatically gives you value because of 380 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: what you're saying. You have to respect him obviously. Now 381 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he comes in as your wide receiver, three, 382 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: your your third best dB is facing OBJ. Yeah. I 383 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: think I think the Cowboys would be his number one target. 384 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: I believe that. Yeah, I mean I agree, but I 385 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: just think they the Cowboys have what he's looking for, 386 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: what he should be. I would imagine what a chance 387 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: to compete. They're top five team in the league right now, 388 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: they're top five team, They're top five team that actually 389 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: needs help at receiver. Um, he seems like I never 390 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: met him, but I have met him in the Pro 391 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Bowls rookie year, but I haven't. I mean, he seems 392 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: like a guy that likes the limelight. He likes the attention, 393 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: and you know what, this place that actually gives you that. 394 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: So what is he like the money? Because I don't 395 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will be the biggest spender. Nope, they won't. 396 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Greeny will so so will he be willing to take 397 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: less money to come here? Yes? Do you think it 398 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: depends on how much less? Yeah? Right, depends on how 399 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: well we know about the Cowboys they like for they like. 400 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: They often like to get deals, especially with these kind 401 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: of players. They'll invest if they think it's a longer 402 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: term player. If they don't see him as a longer 403 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: term player, I don't know. My question is like, are 404 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: they are they gonna be willing to step up and 405 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: spend as much as the next I think so. I 406 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: think Dallas. I was disappointed at the trade. That line 407 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: that Dallas didn't make any moves. Yeah, I was really disappointed. 408 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: We think we were talking about. But every other team, 409 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say every other team, a lot of other 410 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: teams that plan on being in this playoff run that's 411 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: coming up, made moves to make themselves too. They did 412 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: it a week early, They did it the week early. 413 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: Absolutely on defense, right, But that wasn't that was a 414 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: gaping hole for you. But guess what, you need something 415 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: else good, good, And you're getting to score points in 416 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: this in this in this conference, and this division. I 417 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: can't be disappointed if I if I can't see what 418 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: the trade was and I can't see what was the offer, 419 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: because it sounds like they were they were trying. I 420 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: mean if you look at reports, but the guys that 421 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: were going after like like you let a guy go, No, 422 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: we can't say no, we're still everybody what I'm saying, 423 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: But you're gonna go up to somebody who's getting paid 424 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: the same amount? Like what why you're talking about Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 425 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: you don't say that's a perfect athlete, comes in, does 426 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: his job, very dominant, doesn't talk, masks, doesn't get angry, 427 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: just leading the room, and you let him go and 428 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: then you go talk to somebody else who who works 429 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the same amount of money. Right, but I think you're 430 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: trying to go back and change history like you're right, 431 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, should have done. I think everybody has said 432 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: that was a baffling moment. I think everybody agrees with 433 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: that that was a baffling twice. Now this is twice 434 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: that this team needs to look at it. And this 435 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: is it starts with Jerry Stephen Will McClay because they 436 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: were here for all of this that you go into 437 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, thinking you don't need receiver help, and he 438 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: end up trading the first round pick in the middle 439 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: of year for him, and then you let him go 440 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: and you go into the season thinking you got these 441 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: guys and now you're over here trying to get so 442 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: figure out that maybe your receiver position you need more 443 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: than you think you do, and you're in. And that's 444 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: happened twice. Now where they they almost did that. You're right, 445 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: they almost tried to get you know, guy from and 446 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: you know what, glad they didn't. I'm glad they didn't 447 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: need I'm glad they didn't because I have been about 448 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: that based off of what we've seen. And I don't 449 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: know if you can talk about the players, but everyone 450 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: knows that who they tried to get, and he hadn't 451 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: played it down since. And I don't know if one 452 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: I disagree with you guys on because I look, go 453 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: look at his record. No matter what team he's been with, 454 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: he's effective. But but so so if you gotta talk 455 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: about if you're gonna talk about, hey, I'll go get 456 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: OBJ because he's still gonna produce and he's still gonna 457 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: be you rank him in that wide receiver room I 458 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: think if you look at that guy and rank him 459 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room, he's gonna be up there. 460 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: But we talked about it earlier. You can't. I'm not 461 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: giving out awards for effort. Oh you get. And I'm 462 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: not even talking about player. I'm talking about acquiring assets. 463 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: You don't get any credit Dallas Cowboys or any other team, 464 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay, all the other teams that quote unquote try 465 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: to acquire somebody. You don't get any paths on the 466 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: back for making a valiant effort. The reality is you're 467 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: one injury away at the receiver position being a freaking 468 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: glass brick scenario because the teams that you're going to 469 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: be playing going towards us towards the end of the season, right, 470 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: the Minnesota's right. You talk about the Philadelphias, those teams 471 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: that really matter in your in your freaking conference, in 472 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: your division. Those are the teams that you got to 473 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 1: put up points against, and they got multiple and they 474 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: got They went out there and got more assets than 475 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: they even need, right, more assets than they need. Right. 476 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: They address problems that they need to address so that 477 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: they can make sure that when when if something hit 478 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: the fan, they were still in a good position if 479 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: Dallas has one injury right now, receiver freaking a. 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At the start 531 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: of the segment brought to you by blockchain dot Com. 532 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: I know, Isaiah, you're not used to having I'm being 533 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: on a show. We got multiple sponsors, Like we don't 534 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: just have one. They got multiple sponsors because they like, man, 535 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: we want we want a piece of that thing. They 536 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: help you. They actually called me the other day. Sponsorship 537 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: called me the other day. I said, hey, we got 538 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: another company that's interested in being your sponsored, Like we 539 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: just got spons real sponsors. I wonder who's in control 540 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: of those calls? Not me, I mean they handle that, 541 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: they handle the sales. But hey, I was just saying, 542 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's take it back to your 543 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: show and gives you something more, reads more. We're talking 544 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: about it. It's okay, we gotta make money around, gotta 545 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: make money. All right, let's get into our midyear review. 546 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Like I said, these are some of the questions I 547 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: asked to Aisha and Barry. What that's a good idea? 548 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: All right, I asked Aisha and Barry last week. But 549 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: love to hear you guys thought on some of these topics. 550 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: The first question I have for you is the player 551 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: who you expect to add more to the defense down 552 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: the stress stretch between Jonathan Hankins and Daman Clark. Jonathan 553 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: Hankins Hankins Why uh? Daman Clark adds depth and potential, 554 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: explosiveness and a whole lot of upside. Right excited. I'm 555 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: a demon Clark fan. But Hankins is addressing a problem. 556 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: So you look, you can ask some addressing a problem 557 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: versus potential just flash and you know, more depth and 558 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: more you know whatever, more effectiveness. But Hankins is actually 559 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: like your solution. And you saw that in the one 560 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: game that he played. Obviously, they ran to I mean 561 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: that's what they do, right, They run the ball really well. 562 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: But the plays that he was in there, he was 563 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: very effective. Yeah, I agree. I think Also, I think 564 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a better and Neville Gallimore and a 565 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: better bo Hannah because of that. I think he's he's 566 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: here to help. Also, I don't think it's a coincidence. 567 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: Terren Steel's played better with Jason Peters here, and and 568 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith's played better, and Connor McGovern when he came back, 569 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: played better. I think I think Peters has helped. Also 570 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: think it's like we talked about with the receivers. I 571 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: think it's raised the bar a little bit, like you 572 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: better watch you better watch your your your back here 573 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: because I watch your spot because here guy's coming to 574 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: take it. So I think he address addresses the problem. 575 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I also think they're going to be better and deeper 576 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: at defensive tackle because those guys are going to raise 577 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: their game too. What do you guys think about bar 578 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: what he's done so far a relative to Demon Clark. 579 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: As you said that Deman Clark adds depth. Do you 580 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: think it's a situation where maybe Barr could end up 581 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: losing playing time or maybe even his job as time 582 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: goes on. I think for me, I think Anthony Barr. 583 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: I still think they're trying to figure out where he goes, 584 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: and I think it's I think it helps to have 585 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: his versatility because you have Mica. I also think it 586 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: hurts sometimes to have it, because if that makes any sense, 587 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: I just feel like you're trying to figure out places 588 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: for him. And I never thought he was a linebacker 589 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: at Minnesota. I always thought he was a pass rusher. 590 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: Yeah he was, and he got Fouler, You've got Dren's 591 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: you just got played, and you're trying to put him 592 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: at linebacker. I don't think it is good there. This 593 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: to me feels a little Keano neilish, like you're trying 594 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: to figure out this spot for him. It was sure 595 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: it would be nice if he could play it, but 596 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: he's not a real linebacker. I think Demon Clark's a 597 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: real linebacker. Just looks like agree agree, he's big and 598 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: as big as he is a freaking U bar is bigger. Yeah, 599 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about Damon Clark and what he can 600 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: bring to that second level. I know he kind of 601 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: got thrown into it in his first first appearance. He 602 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting to play that much. He obviously they're injury called, 603 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, to the bar allowed for him to step 604 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: into that fold. But Barr is serviceable. I don't think 605 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: I think he's He's a guy that you want there 606 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: because he's he makes a quiet place, right, he makes 607 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: the tackles, all those things. But to your point, he's 608 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: not a guy that you want lined up over over 609 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: a running back and trying to you know, guard him 610 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the things that they're asking their linebackers to do along 611 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: with vander Ish, Right, So vander Esh is the one 612 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: guy that's not gonna move. I think that you want 613 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: a guy that's more agile, more explosive, a little bit 614 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: faster to be able to go out there and make 615 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: those plays, all right. Next question, who has been the 616 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: bigger surprise? Tyler Smith, Terrence Steele or Noah Brown. Oh, 617 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith for me? M yeah, yeah, I think I'm 618 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more surprised that he's locked it down 619 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: over there because I had high expectations for Steel, and 620 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: I think Noran Brown has been good, but they're obviously 621 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 1: trying to trade for help around him to not make 622 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: him at number three, make him a four or five, 623 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: which also helps your special Did y'all not think that 624 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith could do what he's doing, because I mean, 625 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: I think coming in, I think the expectation was that 626 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: he'd be a really good player. He was strong, but 627 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: he had some issues with penalties. Let me ask you this, 628 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty much been what he's been right, ask you this, 629 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: if you get a great report from Tyrant Smith, is 630 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: are you putting Tyron Smith back at left tackle? We 631 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: had this conversation, yes or no? I said no, I 632 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: haven't I said no. I said no. That is the 633 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: reason why Tyler Smith, to me, is the answer to 634 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: your question. Because if if back in training camp, if 635 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: you're like, Tyran's gonna get hurt and when he comes back, 636 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to get his job back. 637 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: Who was expecting that based off a guys can't even 638 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: beat out Connormer Government guard just yet. I think that 639 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: that would be a surprise. So the fact that we're 640 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: even having this discussion about would Tyrant come back. That 641 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: to me is the answer, because he has been phenomenal. 642 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: That's actually an interesting point too. And you said he 643 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: couldn't even beat out Connor mcgovernor, and he didn't, and 644 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know he didn't, And that's why I'm 645 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: a little bit baffled when I hear people say, when 646 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Tyron comes back, you plug in Tyron at left tackle 647 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: and you move Tyler to guard. Well, Tyler couldn't beat 648 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: out the guard. And by the way, Connor McGovern has 649 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: shown you nothing that says he needs to be beat out. 650 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: At this point. He's playing pretty good football. So I 651 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: don't see what that even works. You're basically you're saying 652 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: all of none. Either you're going with Tyran and Tyler's 653 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: going to the bench or maybe I mean, you can't 654 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: move in the right side steals playing well, So either 655 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: he's going to the bench or he's staying at his spot. 656 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: And that's where I have a hard time sitting the 657 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: rookie after what he's done so far. You sit the rickie, 658 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean until Tyr Tyrn right shows you that he can't. 659 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: You sit the ricky because he's your Hall of Fame 660 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: left tackle who had a you know, obviously he's had 661 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: injury in the past, right, but he had a you know, 662 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: an injury in camp messed him up. Okay, you give 663 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: him the chance. Out of respect, you give him the chance. 664 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: It's more about a respect respect not necessarily what you're 665 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: getting on the field. Absolutely, this is it's a respect thing. 666 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he's when he's on the field. Is he 667 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: not one of the two most impactful players on your team? Well, 668 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: I used to be. I think it's more. I think 669 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: it's more than that. I mean, it is about respect, 670 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: but it's also about he has never proven when he's healthy, 671 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: He's never proven to not be That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 672 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: so maybe maybe that is what you're I mean, this 673 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: isn't just one of those like back in the day 674 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: when they used to start the guy. You know, like, 675 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: this isn't a this isn't his play dropping off. You 676 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen the tire retyrant Smith's place are dropping off significant. 677 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: I think you can make the case that maybe that's 678 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: what they're doing with Zeke over over Pollard, you know, 679 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: like almost out of respect. I mean I think that's 680 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: even more so. I don't but that's another that's another 681 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: topic that's a whole different questions. But Tyrant, Tyrant is 682 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Tyrant right when healthy, you want him on your freaking 683 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: left side. Did you did you not see or did 684 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: you see during camp any drop off in his play, 685 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: because I think that was a conversation we had last week, 686 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: is that during camp this year he didn't appear to 687 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: be the same Tyrant who just whenever you took it 688 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: for granted, like this has been for years now, you 689 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: took it for granted. Whenever there's a rep where Tyrant 690 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: is out there, whoever that defender is, he's gonna get up, 691 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna do this. That means he lost, He's gonna 692 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: go back to the side and the next guy's terrible. 693 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: Was dominant? No, No, he just wasn't. He wasn't dominant Tyran. 694 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: That that every time he was up that guy lost, right, 695 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: and that is fairer. It also needs to be pointed 696 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: out we have never seen him go up against the 697 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: best pass rushing team in the league. True, I mean 698 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: that that this team was we found out now we didn't. Really. 699 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: We did see him go up against a DeMarcus Ware regularly, right, 700 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: and again, Marcus didn't make a habit of beating him, 701 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: and there was some good pass rushings here for a 702 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: few years. When you think about some of those guys 703 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: that had some ability, he did that one year. He 704 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: made it happen and we were like, oh man, this 705 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: is a bad pick. And then it turns out Tyrant 706 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: was great. That was just so he figured it out. 707 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Once he figured it out, he was like, all right, 708 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: young man, and sit out. But also talking about figuring 709 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: it out, I mean, Tyler Smith kind of figured it 710 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: out at left tackle on the fly. I think he 711 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: can do guard as well. I don't think he's a guard. 712 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: This is a It's a perfect example of not every 713 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: offensive line position is the same. It's just not. It's 714 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: just like every playing receiver on inside versus playing receiver 715 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: and outside's two totally different monsters. Right, Yeah, you run routes. 716 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you catch the ball. But if your perception is different, 717 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: your outlooks different, you're spacing your you're you know, you're 718 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: everything right, you're probably reception. All that stuff is different. 719 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: He's not in the box guy, That's just what it is. 720 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Right from what we saw, We're like, okay, we can 721 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: put him in. That's gonna be easier put him the 722 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: left tackle to left guard. I was a culprit of 723 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: that right. Same thing with Peters, he left tackle, put 724 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: him in a guard, right, And I still stand behind 725 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Peter's playing that guard. But it's still different. He's not 726 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: as dominant as he is is when he's out there 727 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: on the island by himself. You would think, okay, let's 728 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: it's easier when you when you're kind of boxed in. Yeah, 729 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: it's not for some guys, right. So for so Tyler Smith, 730 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: kudos you bro for even bringing up this conversation in 731 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: terms of your playing, because you've been effective as all 732 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: get out out there on the left side and there 733 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: hasn't been no question mark. All the question marks are 734 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: going into the season when when Tyring got hurt was 735 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: all crap the backside of Dak Dak's coming back and 736 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: crowd is we're gonna have some issues out there out there, Chip, 737 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do it. It's been good, it's 738 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: been good. But I think when Big Dog gets back, 739 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: if he gets back, young fella, come sit down now 740 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: is now? If he mess up enough, yeah, be ready 741 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: say warm, yeah, stay war. They won't stay on the bike. 742 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: But sound like but I would say i'd be I'd 743 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: be interested in seeing if he could play guard and 744 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith because what this team lacks to me is 745 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: an inside push, and it's been the honest doesn't give 746 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: it to you. I think Zach gives it to you 747 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: for sure with leverage and all that. But Peters does 748 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: in the ring game. Well, is he gonna be in there? 749 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking about over McGovern, Are you gonna 750 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: play Peters? Who? Who are we talking about here? I'm 751 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: just saying you're talking about guard? Now are you talking 752 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: about Smith bumping in? Yeah? But I mean I haven't 753 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: replaced McGovern. If Peters is in there, that's a whole 754 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: new conversation. But the but he's avery, but he's on 755 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: the debt chart there, I don't think. I think Tyler 756 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: Smith automatically just goes goes to one B. I'd left tackle, Okay. 757 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: That what I'm saying is is that I'd like to 758 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: see maybe him play at left guard because I want 759 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: to see like that power. He's got power when he's 760 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: when I look at Tennessee last night, when I look 761 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: at what the Eagles have, and there's an Washington again, 762 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: Washington that's always been a problem. I just look at 763 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: strength and about to get back their best defensive play. Washington, 764 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: they're an interesting team right now. I don't know if 765 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: you guys noticed yesterday. If Washington would have won that game, 766 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: all three teams NFC East would have been in the 767 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: playoffs as of yesterday, that's all four teams would have 768 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: been in the playoffs. They would have been all those 769 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: wild cards would have been NFC East teams. That's that that. 770 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: I mean, Washington has put themselves right back into the 771 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: They're in the conversation like they're sitting right outside the playoffs. 772 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: It's actually a good thing because you know, they haven't 773 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: played the Giants yet. The Giants and Washington haven't played, 774 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: so all this is going to kind of sort itself 775 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: out at some point. But it's still interesting and I 776 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: think it's way better than a couple of years ago 777 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: when the NFC East was just like sit at the 778 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: worst in the NFL. I made a statement last week 779 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, the toughest part of your 780 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: schedule is behind you. That's not true. I mean, why 781 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: don't you really look at it now and go okay, 782 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: because Tennessee kind of snuck out, snuck upon me. I 783 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: didn't realize that they were as good. I mean, Minnesota, 784 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: Minnesota is what it is. I mean, they're winning games. 785 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: To say, with the Giants, you can say what you want, 786 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: like I'm not worried about them, and you don't have 787 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: to be worried about them. But they win games. Yep, 788 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: they win. They figure out ways to win, and then 789 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: they did. You thought Green Bay, you thought Indianapolis were 790 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna be really good matchups. They are the ones you're 791 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: least worried about at this point of these next several 792 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, Jacksonville ain't a gimme game. 793 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: Like Jacksonville used to be a gimme game. That ain't 794 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: a gimme game anymore. That team, they play hard. They're 795 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: like the Lions. They play hard. You catch them on 796 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: the wrong weekend, they can beat you. I think NBC 797 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: is trying to flex out of that game, which colts, 798 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: and that is around flex time, isn't it. They'll be 799 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: flex knowing them, they'd be like, let's do a trade, 800 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: Like we'll take that game back, We'll flex another cowboy. 801 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's be honest. Ain't nobody giving 802 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: up a Cowboys. No, I don't care what the scenario is. 803 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody giving I'm saying they may want a trade 804 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: or something like that, because anybody looks better than Cowboys 805 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Colts on a Sunday night. I mean even Cowboys Jacksonville 806 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: looks better than that Cowboys Vikings. They would love to 807 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: flex that one, I'm sure, but they ain't giving up 808 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: a Cowboy if they can't get another one back. Yeah, 809 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: giving up a Cowboys game. All We're gonna take our 810 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: final break. We'll come back. We got a couple more 811 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: questions for these guys. We'll be back. Dallas Cowboys dot 812 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Com Radio. 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At 857 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: the start, we're presented by mill of like the only 858 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: beer of the Dallas Cowboys Let's get a couple more 859 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: questions here before we end the show. This question is 860 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: one that stomped our guys last week. It's more important 861 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: stomped them like they were like they took about what 862 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: I say. Well, I thought you said stomped or stump. 863 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: You just say stump, But you said stump. I say 864 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: stumped because you got the Kirk Franklin stomp stump. Okay, 865 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: is it don't due them stomping or whatever? You yeah, 866 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: that not right. I'll stretch up. You never see him 867 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: getting more upset when we're gonna we're gonna move on. 868 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: Let's here's the question. Here's the question off the hooks 869 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: around Derek. Here's the question, here's the question more important 870 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: to this team's success. Dak Prescott or dan Quinn? Dan Quinn? Easy, 871 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: that's not even a stumper or a stumper. A stomper 872 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: stumper dan Quinn. If if you don't have this defense, 873 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: where are you at? We know where you're at without 874 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: Dak with this defense, with this defense. So why does 875 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: he get hurt? I mean, what happens the quinns he 876 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: gets sick? I mean what no, I'm saying, I'm just saying, 877 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: Who's more important to the He's like, he's like, I 878 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: don't think we can lose him. Like I'm just I'm 879 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: looking at it, like like you just said, let's say 880 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: Cooper Russ has to play in the next six seven games, 881 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: or Joe Joe Wit calls the plays. I think I'd 882 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: rather Joe Wit calls the plays because you've seen it. 883 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: Just run this, okay, thanks, all right, run this. Mike 884 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: is still out there running around. I think I'm for that, 885 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: and then I'll have Dak. I mean, so Mica is 886 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: more important than Dan. Yes, Mica is the most important 887 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: player on the football team. Mike is the best player 888 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I agree with that. You don't think, Well, 889 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: the reason why I say that, No, the reason the 890 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: reason the reason why I say that is because I 891 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: don't know if we actually know Michael Parsons in the 892 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: way we know Michael Parsons without Dan Quinn. Okay, a 893 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of different layers through all this. Um, 894 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: so you're choosing a Dack over over Quinn. That's what 895 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: you're saying, Dack over Quinn. I think Joe Witt can 896 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: can take or whoever it is. I just just take 897 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: the sheet and call it please and just run Michael 898 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: over the place and let him play. No, Okay, I'm 899 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: dan Quinn through and through Dak Prescott to me, and 900 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: I've always stood by this. I think he's a good quarterback. 901 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a great quarterback. That's just been 902 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: my opinion over the years. That's from velocity, that's from accuracy, 903 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: that's from all those things. That has nothing to do 904 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: with him as a person, has nothing to do with 905 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: his determination, his will to win, all those things. It's 906 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: just from what I have seen. I don't put him 907 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: in that elite conversation. Dan Quinn is an elite coach. 908 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: There's that's just no if answer butts about it. What 909 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: he's done for this defense, turning them around from the 910 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: worst in the league to the best in the league 911 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: shows you exactly what the heck is going on there. 912 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: This offense, okay, was number one in the league last year, 913 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: okay with Dak Prescott awesome. Okay, But all of a 914 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: sudden they're not at the top of the league. And 915 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: obviously he's only been here for a couple of games. 916 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: I get it, all right, People gonna throw shade, but 917 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: Dak is not a guy that could just drop back 918 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: and throw the ball at you. Dak Prescott is not 919 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: as effective unless he has that running game. He's not 920 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: going to throw the ball sixty eight times and get 921 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: you a victory like dog On Mahomes did yesterday. Right, 922 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: He's not that guy. He needs a running game. And 923 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: and that's not a knock on him. That's just a 924 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: type of quarterback he has. And I think I will 925 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 1: much rather have a dan Quinn that's changing the culture, 926 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: that's putting guys in a position to be successful based 927 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: upon their abilities that they have, then then a Dakota 928 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: Prescott at quarterback. Yeah. I mean again, I don't really 929 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: see the scenario this year of that happening. Now, you 930 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: hope not next year. The saying, man, I'll say it, 931 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to live in a world without dan Quinn. Okay, 932 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: that's where I'm saying. Let's just say in some crazy 933 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: scenario where he was going to be the head coach 934 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: and he said I don't want this as my quarterback, 935 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: that's a decision where you're like, wait a second, now 936 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: you have to make a decision between the two. But 937 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: right now, I mean as opposed to maybe like the 938 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: worst flu bug. Ever, I don't think it might be that. 939 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: It might be this flute thing is kind of crazy 940 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: right now, so maybe it is drink drink days are blue. 941 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: Well that I can see that question definitely stomped me 942 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: because I don't I see that that was a stomper. 943 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate you join us. We'll be back tomorrow. 944 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: We'll get into some other questions I have these guys. 945 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: We'll also take some questions. It's Tuesday, so we'll get 946 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: lots of questions from you guys. Whatever you guys want 947 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: to talk about. It's a bye week, coming off a 948 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: bye week, so we'll have some time to really be 949 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: able to say back and answer some questions from you guys. 950 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: So till then, for Nick even Asia, see him back. 951 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The Break live on 952 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production 953 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football 954 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: Club