1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest messaging from the FED. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: Chairman J Powell signaled that policymakers will wait longer than 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: previously anticipated to cut interest rates following a series of 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: surprisingly high inflation readings. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: So we've said at the FMC that we'll need greater 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 4: confidence that inflation is moving sustainably toward two percent before 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 4: be appropriate to ease policy. You know, we took that 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 4: cautious approach and sought that greater confidence so as not 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: to overreact to the string of low inflation readings that 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 4: we had in the second half of last year. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: Now, policymakers narrowly penciled in three interest rate cuts and 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: forecasts published last month, but investors are now betting on 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: just one to two cuts this year. The yield on 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: the two year no briefly crossed five percent yesterday. This morning, 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: it's at four point nine four percent. 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, Some on Wall Street have speculated the Fed 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: could raise rates, but Bloomberg Opinion columnist Muhammadalarian says there 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: are real risks. If the FED boost rates from here. 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 5: If inflationing gets much worse, they could hike. But I 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 5: think if they do hike, we're going to have a 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 5: regional banking crisis. We're going to have all sorts of 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: damage in the marketplace. And I think that is at 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 5: the back of the head. So I think the likelihood 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 5: of them hiking is low. Is it zero? No, they 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 5: could Bloomberg. 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Opinion columnist Mohammedalarian says another rate high could put the 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Fed on a path to a new tightening cycle and 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: that could derail US growth. 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Well, Karen. Inflation and rates are also in focus in Europe. 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: UK inflation slowed less than expected last month. This fuel 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: price is corrept higher. Consumer prices rose three point two 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: percent in March compared with the year earlier. That's down 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: from three point four in While that is the lowest 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: since September twenty twenty one, three point two is above 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: the three point one percent inflation that the Bank of 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: England and private sector economists had expected. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Now, Nathan, we get the latest from the Middle East 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: and Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Counts is meeting with the 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: foreign ministers of the UK and Germany. He says Israel 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: has the right to react to Iran's weekend missile and 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: drone attack, and he's calling for sanctions on Around's missile program. 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: The White House says it's preparing a package targeting around's 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: weapons systems, but Bloomberg's Patrick psychs reports Iran has a 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: track record of dealing with sanctions. 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 6: The symbolism is much more important in this case. It's 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 6: more of a diplomatic signal to israel Is saying, you know, 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 6: we your allies, We're all here, We're acting immediately in 52 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 6: the days after that attack, and therefore perhaps you don't 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 6: need to go so hard in your planned military response 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: to that attack. You know, take this as the message 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 6: of support and feel reassured a few security. 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Bloomberg's Patrick seikescherports the leaders of Saudi Arabia and 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: the United Arab Emirates issued a joint statement calling for 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: a maximum of self restraint in the Middle East and 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: warning of the quote dangers of war and its dire consequences. 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: Now, let's turn to the latest Karen on the criminal 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: case against Donald Trump. It took two days to seat 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: seven jurors, but there is progress in the hush money 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: trial in Manhattan. Let's get the latest now from Bloomberg's 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: June Grosso in New York. 65 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 7: The first seven jurors were sworn in after lawyers grilled 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 7: them about their social media posts, political views, and personal lives. 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 7: Sitting on the jury will be an information technology worker, 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 7: an English teacher and oncology nurse, a sales professional, a 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 7: software engineer, and two lawyers. Four more jurors must be 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 7: sworn in and six alternates before opening statements can begin, 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 7: perhaps as early as next week. June Grosso, Bloomberg Radio, 72 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 7: All Right. 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: June, thank you. In company news, job cuts reportedly on 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the way at Toshiba, The nie K is reporting the 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: company plans to eliminate five thousand jobs in Japan. That's 76 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: about a tenth of its domestic headcount. The NIKA says 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: with a cost cutting move, Toshiba is now focusing on 78 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: its infrastructure and digital technology operations. 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Karen Bloomberg News has learned that Morgan Stanley plans 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: to start cutting about fifty investment banking jobs in the 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: Asia Pacific region this week. At least eighty percent of 82 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: those reductions will be in Hong Kong and China. The 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: job cuts would be the deepest in years for Morgan 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: Stanley in China. 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Well Nathan. Jamie Diamond says artificial intelligence will transform banking, 86 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: but it will also lead to job losses. The JP 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Morgan CEO's comments to Bloomberg come after he devoted a 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: chunk of his annual shareholder letter to the importance of 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence for the Wall Street Giants business. Here's what 90 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Diamond told Emily Chang on the latest episode of The Circuit. 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 8: It's a living breathing thing. So people want to ask 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 8: what's going to do. It's a living breathing thing. 93 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 9: It's going to change. 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 8: They're gonna be all different types of models and different 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 8: types of tools and technology. But the way to think 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 8: about for us is every single process, so errors, trading, hedging, research, 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 8: every app every database. You're going to be applying AI. 98 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 8: So it might be as a copilot, it might be 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 8: to replace humans. You know, AI is doing all the 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 8: equity hedging for us. For the most part. It's idea 101 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 8: generation as large language models. 102 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: And you can watch the full wide ranging interview with 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Jamie Dimond on the latest episode of the Circuit with 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Emily Chang tonight at six pm Wall Street Time on 105 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television. You can also get the circuit in podcast 106 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Forum on Apples, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen to podcasts. 107 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 3: Let's check some stocks this morning, Karen. We're watching shares 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: of ASML holding. They're down more than four percent. In Amsterdam, 109 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: Europe's most valuable tech firm posted new orders that fell 110 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 3: short of analyst estimate's hurt by a downturn in demand 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: for its most advanced machines from the chip making industry. 112 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: And shares of United Airlines flying higher by almost five 113 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: percent in early trading that carry your forecast better than 114 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: a expected profit this quarter. That's tempering concerns that Boeing 115 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: aircraft delays and regulatory pressure will put expansion plans at risk. 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 7: Well. 117 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: Boeing safety record will be under pressure today on Capitol Hill, Karen, 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: the Senate is holding two separate hearings on a whistleblower's 119 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: claims of poor assembly processes and shortcomings in the seven 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: eighty seven Dreamliner program. Senators will hear from a Boeing 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: engineer who worked on that plane for years, plus safety 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: experts from NASA and the academic world. Boeing executives will 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: not be there. CEO Dave Calhoun is expected to testify 124 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: at a later date. 125 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: And it's time now for look at some of the 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: other stories making news in New York and around the world. 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker, John Good Morning. 128 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 10: Good Morning Karen. President Biden calling for higher tariffs on 129 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 10: Chinese steel and aluminum. Bloomberg Steve Ponas says this is 130 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 10: part of a series of steps to shore up the 131 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 10: American steel sector and win over workers in this year's election. 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 11: In a visit to Pittsburgh today, mister Biden will propose 133 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 11: new twenty five percent tariffs on certain Chinese steel and 134 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 11: aluminum products as part of an ongoing review, while the 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 11: US also launches a formal probe into China's shipbuilding industry. 136 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 11: The steps target a relatively small segment of the US market, 137 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 11: with imports of Chinese steel and aluminum totaling roughly one 138 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 11: point seven billion dollars in twenty twenty three, but US 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 11: officials said the announcements were designed to head off an 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 11: expected surge and safeguard the US market. The President will 141 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 11: also reiterate that United States steel based in Pittsburgh should 142 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 11: remain American owned. Steve Potisk Bloomberg Radio. 143 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 10: A newly unsealed court document so US Senator Bob Menendez 144 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 10: is prepared to blame his wife at his bribery trial 145 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 10: for withholding information from him. Lawyers for the New Jersey 146 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 10: Democrat asked the judge to try him separately from his wife, Nadine. 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 10: They're accused of accepting brimes of cash, gold bars, and 148 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 10: a car in the Bronx. Police is searching for four 149 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 10: sons books who shot four people on a street corner 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 10: Tuesday evening, killing one of them. According to NYPD Chief 151 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 10: Benjamin Gurley, the victims were all shot by passengers riding 152 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 10: on two scooters with. 153 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: Two males on each scooter abreast. 154 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 8: The rear passengers of those scooters pulled off firearms. That's 155 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 8: two firearms, and he fired approximately ten rounds. 156 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 10: So far, had no arrests. Former US Senator and two 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 10: termed Florida Governor Bob Graham, who gained national prominence as 158 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 10: Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee in the aftermath of 159 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 10: the two thousand and one terror attacks and as an 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 10: early critic of the Iraq war, has died. He was 161 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 10: eighty seven years old, Global news twenty four hours a 162 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 10: day and whenever you wanted with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 10: John Tucker and this is Bloomberg Nathan and Karen. 164 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: Sorry, John, thank you. It's time now for the Bloombergy 165 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: Sports Update with John Stashaur. 166 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 11: John, Good morning, Good morning, Carry. 167 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 12: The Yankees had the hot start they off. The Mets 168 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 12: had a brutal start to the season five straight home losses. 169 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 12: They've turned it around moved over five hundred where a 170 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 12: three to one win over the Pirates at Cityfield. Mets 171 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 12: scored all three and the seventh, ending their bullpen to 172 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 12: four Scorelesshitians gave up just one hit. A night after 173 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 12: the Yankees first two game losing straight, the skid reached 174 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 12: three in Toronto. Blue Jays led five to one. Yankee 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 12: comeback fell short. They lost five to four. Jose Trasvigno 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 12: drove in three runs, but Anthony Bupe went over four 177 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 12: with four strikeouts and Aaron Judge went over four. His 178 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 12: average fell to one eighty two. Orioles beat the Twins. 179 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 12: They are only a half game behind the Yanks. Red 180 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 12: Sox lost to Cleveland. Nationals lost to the Dodgers Hall 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 12: of Fame manager Whitey Herzog has died at ninety two. 182 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 12: Managed the Cardinals throughout the nineteen eighties, won the World 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 12: Series in eighty two, and also passed either way. One 184 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 12: of the last living Boys of Summer, Carl Erskine was 185 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 12: the main stay on the Brooklyn Dodgers pitching staff. He 186 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 12: was ninety seven. The NBA play in began in New Orleans. 187 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 12: Lakers had a fifteen point lead the Pelicans rallied. Lakers 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 12: prevailed down the stretch. 189 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 13: Here is Breeves dribbling rights all the way to the middle. 190 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 13: T low for three shot it two s three for Russell, 191 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 13: put the Lakers up by four with fifty seconds remaining. 192 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 12: In the fort on klac and LA fift three four 193 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 12: of the night for D'Angelo Russell and the Lakers won 194 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 12: one ten to one oh six, So they'll be the 195 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 12: seventh seed in the West. They'll face Denver, who swept 196 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 12: the Lakers last year, in the West Finals. New Orleans 197 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 12: will now host Sacramento Friday to see who the eighth 198 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 12: seed will be. The Kings blue out Golden State one 199 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 12: eighteen to ninety four. The Rangers found out their opponent 200 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 12: first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs will be the 201 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 12: Washington Capitals Bruins lost Florida one. The Panthers won the 202 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 12: Atlantic Division. Josh Dashawe, Bloomberg Sports Camp, Nathan. 203 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: All Right, John, thank you. SMP futures up a quarter percent, 204 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: or fourteen points down, futures up a third of upper 205 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: cent or one hundred and twenty eight points, Nasdaq futures 206 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: up a tenth of upper cent or twenty four points, 207 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: and the ten year Treasury yield at four point sixty 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: three percent. 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 9: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 210 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 9: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 211 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 9: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager. Higher for longer. That has been the 213 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: message for quite some time from Fed Chairman Jerome Powell 214 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 3: when it comes to interest rates. But after the latest 215 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: hot inflation data that has started this year, Powell really 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: seems to be trying to send that message home to 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: markets in an even bigger way. And for more. We 218 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: are joined by Bloomberg's Kritty Gupta. Critty good morning. Sounds 219 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: like the new message from chairman Powell is higher for 220 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: even longer. 221 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 14: It is, and it's kind of this almost admitting that 222 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 14: there is I mean, he said this right, that there's 223 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 14: still more work to do. The last mile is always 224 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 14: going to be the hardest. His wording seems to have 225 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 14: pushed those market expectations of a cut potentially to into 226 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 14: next year, moving it out of twenty twenty four altogether. 227 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 14: So it's more a question of not only higher for longer, 228 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 14: but there's also a question of credibility here that is 229 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 14: this the tool that can actually tack on inflation? And Nathan, 230 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 14: you know, well early on when we had inflation takeups 231 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 14: back in twenty twenty one, the verbiage that Jay Powell 232 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 14: and some of his critics even us is we don't 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 14: want a vulgar repeat, We don't want that reacceleration of inflation. 234 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 14: This is kind of his worst nightmare, that's almost coming 235 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 14: to fruition. 236 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems to be sort of hoping that this 237 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: isn't the reacceleration. But it's raising the question when it 238 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: comes to FED credibility about whether that last mile should 239 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: be maybe a little bit less than a mile. There's 240 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: a growing debate in this market about whether the two 241 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: percent inflation targets still makes sense. 242 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 14: There is a growing debate, and it's one that's kind 243 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 14: of going global as well, because right here in the 244 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 14: UK as well, we are having the exact same debate. 245 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 14: Of course, setting the precedent by the Federal Reserve. But look, 246 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 14: that's a much longer process that isn't going to be 247 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 14: adjusted anytime soon. It requires even congressional approval to adjust 248 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 14: that target. It Something you are, however, seeing, is what 249 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 14: the inputs into this inflationary process is. So when we're 250 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 14: talking about what's actually driving this inflation uptick, you're starting 251 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 14: to see some of the commodity prices actually take higher. 252 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 14: So oil prices, for example, was one gas prices that 253 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 14: we watch, especially ahead of the election in the States. 254 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 14: Another piece that's especially relevant for the global audience is 255 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 14: simply this idea that you were starting to yield much 256 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 14: much higher. A lot of the work, a lot of 257 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 14: that kind of easing of the Federal Reserve was kind 258 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 14: of pushing off in terms of rate cuts. A lot 259 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 14: of that has actually been done by the markets in 260 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 14: a good chunk a way. When you look at financial conditions, 261 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 14: take a look at the stock market rally, take a 262 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 14: look at the dollar rally, credit spreads have tightened. Those 263 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 14: are all ways to kind of through the markets without 264 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 14: that FED intervention tighten or extracy ease some of the 265 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 14: conditions that allow for things like financing, for example, in 266 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 14: the broader market. So that's going to be one thing 267 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 14: to watch. The bond market is another story here, where 268 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 14: you start to see so many people piled on to 269 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 14: the front end of the curve that their market is 270 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 14: almost partially in control of where rates go. Some would 271 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 14: argue at an even faster pace than where the FED 272 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 14: is expecting. They're higher for longer as well. So you're 273 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 14: seeing yields tick up higher. That makes the FED its 274 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 14: job even more difficult when it comes to working in 275 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 14: the opposite direction. 276 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 12: So does this. 277 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: Raise the idea once again that we could see no 278 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: interest rate cuts this year? Perhaps as a base case? 279 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: I mean, does Torsten Slock of Apollo Management sound like 280 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: a profit at this point? 281 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 14: It could be, and then look, it wouldn't be the 282 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 14: first time that he's claimed that profit status, and very 283 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 14: easily could be. He also mentioned that some of these 284 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 14: financial conditions are incentivizing capital markets activity, IPO deals, et cetera. 285 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 14: And he's been right about that, and he's really shown 286 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 14: that kind of pickup as well. I'll answer your question 287 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 14: in terms of market pricing here, because the market's always right, 288 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 14: isn't it, Nathan. And when you look at the market 289 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 14: pricing you can find on the Bloomberg terminal, it basically 290 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 14: is it has pushed out cuts all the way into 291 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 14: twenty twenty five. The most kind of the biggest percentage 292 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 14: you is about a forty seven percent odds of a 293 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 14: cut in September, though the next one coming out forty 294 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 14: eight percent in December. Remember're also dealing with the election story. 295 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 14: How close to the election does the Fed have room 296 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 14: to cut? And how many data points in between do 297 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 14: you get suggesting that inflation is either upticked further, that 298 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 14: there is a reacceleration, or gone in the opposite direction 299 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 14: that we can claim that transitory status. And right now 300 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 14: you've had three hot prints across CPI, PPI, PCE. At 301 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 14: the moment, three data points is starting to feel like 302 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 14: a trend. 303 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: Only about thirty seconds left here, Kritie. But we're in 304 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,359 Speaker 3: this situation where inflation is easing just a bit overseas. 305 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: Now we got the lower than well, the lower inflation 306 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: print out of the UK not lower than expected. But 307 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: this idea as well, that the ECB could be cutting 308 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: in June. I mean, what about the divergence here? 309 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 14: Well, the divergence is one of concern, and it's one 310 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 14: that actually kind of makes the trade a little bit 311 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 14: easier when it comes to the bond market and even 312 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 14: the FX market. You're already seeing cracks of that where 313 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 14: the strong dollar story is actually weighing on the year 314 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 14: and the pound because the market is expecting that divergence 315 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 14: to manifest as soon as the summer. Is this an 316 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 14: issue not really seems to be the consensus at the 317 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 14: moment because it'll only last for a couple of months 318 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 14: at most. Does that narrative change Absolutely? But right now 319 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 14: you're one hundred percent right. 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