1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Also media. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: This is that could happen. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 3: Here. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: We're talking about the r presidential debate starring Donald Trump 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: and Joe Biden, which was by far the worst presidential 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: debate I've ever seen in my entire life. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 4: There's no competition. 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: There's no competition like I remember the days when we 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: laughed at George W. Bush sucking up ed a debate. 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: He would he would clean up with these guys. He 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: would be sashing across the floor. 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 5: You could drop Sarah Palin in here, yeah, and shew them. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Sarah Palin comes out of us looking like Bob fucking Hope. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: So I'm Garrison Davis, I'm joined by Robert Evans and 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: James Stout. Let's uh, let's get into it. I guess 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: who do you think, quote unquote won the debate? 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 5: I can tell you who fucking lost. Garrisons all of us. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I will. 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: I'll go into this later. I'm not sure it matters, 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: but if the debate matters, Trump won totally. If the 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: debate matters, Trump won. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: You know that was my same thought as well. He 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: definitely was a much better debater and had much better 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: like political rhetoric. He could form complete sentences which is 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: something you could not say of Joe Biden, and that's 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: not that's not hyperbole. 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: I actually argue with the first two thirds of your 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: analysis there, because I don't think in argument terms, if 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: we're looking at this as a debate, Trump repeated, like 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: if I were scoring this the way you would competition. 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: Trump repeatedly followed Biden on these like Biden would goad 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: him with shit like what he said, what Trump said 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: after charlott'svilleer all like Trump's height and him lying about 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: fucking golf scores, and Trump always took the bait. Why 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: I think Trump won is that this is not going 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: to get consumed as a debate. People aren't going to 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: look at this and like, look at the whole sweep 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: of how they both shre which Biden would still very 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: likely lose, but it's less clear this is gonna get 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: cut up a million ways on TikTok, and it's Trump's 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: just got a lot more AMMO out of this fucker. 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 43 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: The very first thing I noticed is that both of 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: them looked barely awake as he went on screen. And 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: so I did get a debate bingo, I almost got two, 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: I almost got three. I was very proud of that. 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. We can we can go 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: over some of some of what some of what they 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: talked about, because yeah, why not. 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 5: Do you want to hate? Do you want to hate 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: Jill Biden's review? Just just get that out of the 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 5: way real quick. 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, did he get Jill? 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 5: Give it Jill, Judge, Jill, doctor, Jill Biden. Such a 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 5: great job. You answered every question. 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: Fantastic, that's amazing stuff. 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he did, answered coherently not so much. 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: We uh, we had we had an inject bleach reference 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: from Biden very early on. 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: And that was that was one of his better ploys. 61 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: Unfortunately followed it up by mumble incoherently for like forty seconds. 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, but I was glad to hear it dropped. 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was well pred he just did not he executed. 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: Look here's what I'll say. I've said this about Joe 65 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: for a while. If you were looking at this man, 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: not as the president, but as like a relative, you 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: would say, well, he's doing you know, uncle Joe's doing 68 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: okay for eighty two, you know, like he's so most 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: he's eighty six. If he'll be eighty six if he 70 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: does a second term at the end of it. But 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: like if he were a regular person, you would say, uncle, 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: Joe's doing okay for eighty two, Maybe we should take 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: the keys. 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: You know. 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't need he doesn't need to be in 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: a home. You know, that would not be the right 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: call at this moment. But maybe he shouldn't have he 78 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: shouldn't be driving, you know. 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 80 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: So one of the smart things I think Trump did 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: very early on is that he attacked the vaccine mandate 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: but not the vaccine. Yeah, that was one of the 83 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: more subtle moves that he did that I think he 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: pulled off very well. 85 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe just gave it up. 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: One of the one of the record trends with Trump 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: is that he really loved to call the United States 88 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: a third world nation and say we are now an 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: uncivilized nation. That was That was like one of the 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: many things Trump kept going back to because he Trump 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: really did just have like five things he just kept 92 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: talking about over and over and over again. He mostly 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: ignored the actual questions from moderators. The moderators themselves did 94 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: a really bad job both the questions they had and 95 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: also like actually controlling controlling the candidates and keep and 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: keeping them on topic. But in general, I think the 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: questions that they did were just kind of bizarre. Thirdal 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: nation was a very common refrain from Trump. 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 5: And one thing that like Trump, Trump did badly more 100 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 5: than Biden, or like you can see how Biden's team 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 5: prepped him on it and then he screwed the boots 102 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 5: on it. But like Biden would say these things that 103 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: he knew would trigger Trump, like his weight and his height, 104 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: right or yeah, the very good people on both sides 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: and Trump completely felt for that hootline thing. 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: You can tell Trump has been obsessing over the little 107 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: things that people say about, like how he treated handled 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: stuff like the alt right and whatnot. Like he's very 109 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: angry about some of that, which is interesting to me 110 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: because it wasn't the smart move. The smart move was like, 111 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: as Garret noted, Trump very I think intelligently pivoted on 112 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: the vaccine issue to like still being able to take 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: credit for it with some audiences while also making clear 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: that his issue was the mandates. Whenever Trump was on 115 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: the economy, I think, even though I don't agree that 116 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: he was the better president for the economy, I think 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: that he performed strongly on stage. He spent a lot 118 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: of time in the weeds. If we're going to use 119 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: golf metaphors, he kept like knocking shit into the sand 120 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: dunes and having to like. 121 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 5: Thank you for raising golf from it. 122 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: You're welcome, You're welcome. 123 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 3: Because this had the longest golf digression of any presidential 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: lookit of everything. 125 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: He had like a two minute argument over whether they 126 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: could play golf against each other and who would. 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: Win and whose handicap was what in the eighties. 128 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: What I saw in this is you've got two men 129 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: who are not at are past their prime. And the 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: reason why this in large part went Trump's way is 131 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: that Biden has never been a good public speaker. That 132 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: has never been his strength. He has a speech impediment, 133 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: right that he worked and got over much of his career, 134 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: but when you are older, you have less control over everything, 135 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: and we can see it coming back, right. There's no 136 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: there ought not be any shame in that. But also 137 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: it does affect the way people think. This is a 138 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: horrible country full of terrible people. People do not forgive 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: a speech impediment, right. But more to the point, the 140 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: thing that Biden is showing his age in most all, 141 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: as we all do. It's the shit that we're bad at. 142 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: We get a lot worse at, right, And you can 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: kind of hide how much you've aged when you're doing 144 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: something that is clearly your talent. You know, my grandpa 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: near the you know, fairly late in his Parkinson's journey, 146 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: could still like gut and clean and catch a fish 147 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: really well. It wasn't until pretty advanced that he lost 148 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: that ability, and it was almost like you could see 149 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: some of that skill returned to him. And like Trump 150 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: is a talker, Trump is a charismatic guy. He is 151 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: good at working a crowd. You can tell he is 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: falling off in his inability to the fact that he 153 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: keeps falling for all of these very obvious traps Joe 154 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: Biley and he spent a lot of time in the weeds, 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: but he still sounds a lot stronger. And this is 156 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: entirely a contest of who can look best on camera, right, 157 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's of course Trump's going to win. 158 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: I think the first really big topic that they that 159 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: they started to argue back and forth on was abortion. 160 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: It started by Trump saying that he is pro the 161 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: abortion pill, and he's pro the Supreme Court's recent rule 162 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: leg which he kind of mischaracterized, but that's still he's 163 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: anything coming from Trump saying that he's he's okay with 164 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: the with the abortion pill. 165 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: He even brought up being okay with a nine month 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: abortion if it's for the life of the mother, which 167 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: was interesting to me. 168 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 2: But then they spent a long time arguing over whether 169 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade means that you can kill babies after exactly. 170 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: Yes, right birth, And that was that was a that 171 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: was an interesting I don't think that that interaction. I 172 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: don't know how much it's gonna matter, but it didn't 173 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: come off well for Trump because. 174 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: He he didn't come off well for Trump. That was 175 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: I think this is one of the few things he 176 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: did not do well in of course, you know, Biden 177 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: has done very little to secure reproductive rights as as 178 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: the current president. We all we all know this, but 179 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: this did not come off well for Trump. They were 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: basically just arguing back and forth over whether Biden wants 181 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: to kill baby's post birth, which is just a ridiculous 182 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: thing to to argue. 183 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: It was a shameful chain of arguments, right YEA. George 184 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: Bush would have insinuated the same thing but done it 185 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: in a way. But that left everyone feeling less gross, 186 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: and that's why he did so many terrible things. It's 187 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: just interesting that we've stripped so much of the shellac 188 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: off of it and now they are just because in 189 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: George W. Bush's day, we were still the Republicans, were 190 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: still calling Democrats baby killers. There was just it's interesting 191 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: how much of the sheen is gone. Maybe a little 192 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: more class, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe maybe it's not all 193 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: bad that we're not pretending anymore, right, Like, there's no 194 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: pretending on this stage. 195 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: Both men are clearly not doing well. 196 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the system itself is not pretending, right Like, we 197 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 5: just got a couple of fucking Egypts and what we do, 198 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 5: We'm stole one of them. 199 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: Like something I will never pretend to do is is 200 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: dislike our products and services that support this podcast. I 201 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: love them. I would never pretend otherwise. So go listen 202 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: to these ads. 203 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: Okay we are back, Yeah, yeah, still here we are. 204 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel good. I feel good about 205 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: America today. 206 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: You think so, you think the right direction? 207 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's not that. 208 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: We're heading in the right direction. We've never been heading 209 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: in a very good direction. The driver has always been drunk, 210 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: right and Finally, forty five minutes into the drive, he 211 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: just was like, look, man, I'm not doing great right now, 212 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna get this car back home unless 213 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: you bust open the center console where I keep a 214 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: handle of bourbon. And you're scared of the driver because 215 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: he has a gun and you don't know what he'll 216 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: do with it. You're not even sure if he can 217 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: really see you in anyway. That's how it feels to 218 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: watch the selection. 219 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: Let's talk about immigration, one of the other main main 220 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: topics in this debate. 221 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 4: And that went bad for Biden. 222 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: Trump had a fantastic line saying Border Patrol endorsed me 223 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: for president, but I won't say that, which is amazing stuff. 224 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: They both claimed border Patrol endorsed them too. Yeah, the Border. 225 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 5: Patrol itself doesn't make endorsements, right, but the Border Patrol Union, 226 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: which is worth the worst accounts on Twitter, did clarify 227 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: that they endorsed Trump. 228 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: So there was a lot of bad stuff with abortion. 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean, James, did you do any thoughts overall in 230 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: the abortion discourse. 231 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 5: The debate, the immigration discourse. Yes, Wow, that was a 232 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 5: real Biden moment for you. Gar Garrison, Yeah, Garrison Davis 233 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: elderly members of podcast. 234 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: Somebody get Garrison as pet pills? 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: I wish. 236 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're fog in the air and Atlanta tonight. 237 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: All right, the discourse over aboard Jesus Christ. 238 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: They're bringing abortions with him, Garrison, don't worry, there's okay, 239 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: there's a. 240 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: Pretty great Onion headline report. Oh they're about to talk 241 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: about black people. 242 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: Oh god, yeah yeah. 243 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 6: Another fine moment of this debate, the fucking black job 244 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 6: saying yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Circu immigration and talking immigration right, 245 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 6: just real quick, Donald Trump kept throwing out this eighteen 246 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 6: million number. 247 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 5: Fuck knows where that comes from. Yeah, that was just 248 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: all the numbers, like fully from the rectum to the 249 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: debate stage. But look, boy, patrol have reported nine point 250 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: six encounters. I've beaten this horse to death. But encounter 251 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: does not represent a unique vidual. Right, people go and 252 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: come back when when they get deported back, very common 253 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 5: both of them, like, like, the what I actually want 254 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 5: to focus on is the way that Jake Tappa framed 255 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 5: that question, because it was fucking atrocious, right like it. 256 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 5: He didn't frame it in a way in which either 257 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 5: of them, if they had wanted to, could offer a 258 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 5: reasonable compassionate stance and immigration right. It was positive as 259 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: a terrible thing. And yeah you Foxy in and next 260 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 5: time you come dming me asking me. 261 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: The scummy scummy shit, Yeah, it was for the For 262 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: the record, Jake Tapper should be hit in the head 263 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: with a with a I don't know, truck or something. 264 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: But podcaster Robert Evans threatens violence against CNN anchor Jake Taper. 265 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: In a way he supported violence against me, So I 266 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: think I have that right with Jake. 267 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: That is true. 268 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: He's he's a dog shit journalist. And this was the 269 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: worst moderated debate because Trump is just lying. Everything he 270 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: says is absolutely full of shit. And half of the 271 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: ship that Biden says, it's hard to tell what he 272 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: was even trying to say, and there was no tempt 273 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: to make it. They they treated this like Werner Herzog 274 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: would have filmed it, right, But they're too Herzog would 275 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: have done this way because like, my job is not. 276 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: To interfere here. 277 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: My job is to let this unfold, right, I don't 278 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: need now. Herzog would interfere if that would have made 279 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: it a better story. But he loves artists. These people 280 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: are journalists. Yeah, these people are journalists, and your job 281 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: was to attempt to both hold them accountable to some 282 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: standard of reality and also to attempt to present this 283 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: in a way that's intelligible, right, and you failed on 284 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: both accounts. You did bad jobs as journalists. 285 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: I think for me, the best and worst line of 286 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: the debate in terms of like, oh wow, we're really 287 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: in it is is Trump saying that migrants are taking 288 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: black jobs, which is one of the most loaded statements 289 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: I've ever heard, because, for one, you know, it's weird 290 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: on like the migrant thing, be like that, that's really 291 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: your black jobs? 292 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 5: What is a black yet? 293 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: What do you think he's implying there? 294 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 5: I think we know what he's there. 295 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: He's implying farm work. 296 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: He's talking about like working in the fields. 297 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: Low skilled jobs is what he is talking about. Yes, 298 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: that's how he sees this. But what I where I 299 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: think that came from. My suspicion is that because the 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: Trump campaign is still consistently extremely weak with black voters, right, 301 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: they've actually made a lot of inroads with Hispanic voters. 302 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: Trump in this debate, Yeah, they are still based on 303 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: all of the polling I've seen, they're about as bad 304 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: with black voters as they weren't twenty twenty. That really 305 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: has not moved. What you have seen on that is 306 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: not really based in much of the way of evidence, 307 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: at least in terms of what polling can show us. 308 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: They know this is a weakness, and it's one that 309 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: they see as a significant strategic weakness. So at some 310 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: point Trump had a meeting with his campaign prep staff 311 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: and one of the things they wrote on a billboard 312 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: is they were spitball ideas to get black voters was 313 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: migrants taking black jobs question mark, and that stayed in 314 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: Trump's head totally. They had a million better ways to 315 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: phrase it, but when the moment came up, that's how 316 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: he fucking ran. 317 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: That is no guarantee you exactly what happened. It just yes, totally. 318 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: It also displays a somehow extremely anti immigrant and extremely 319 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: racist at all the same time coming remarkable directions. It's 320 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: quite something. One of another another great line was human 321 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: trafficking in women and just another another wonder. 322 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: Human trafficking in women. I'm glad. 323 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: I'm glad that women do make the human list though, 324 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: like that feels like progress. 325 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: Garrison, we did it, Joe. 326 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Anything else on the immigration front. I mean, it was 327 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: as bad as we would expect. Honestly, I thought that 328 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: would try to go further on the right on immigration 329 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: than what he ended up doing. Not saying he did 330 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: well on immigration, but I expected I picked Biden to 331 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: kind of to kind of push a little a little 332 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: bit more. 333 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: He's not comfortable with it, clearly because he made he 334 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: got so much of his win on highlighting the obvious 335 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: inhumanity of Trump's border policy, and he obviously has adopted 336 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: a policy that's very similar. 337 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he tried to hit him on the 338 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 5: separation of families. Families are still fucking separated, Like I've 339 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: literally seen that this week. 340 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: Well, I just don't think he's I don't think he's 341 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: comfortable fighting Trump on this because I don't really think 342 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: he has a great feeling about their their where they're 343 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: separate on the matter, right, So he's not comfortable with 344 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: that line of argument the way he is. Like Biden's 345 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: best moment was attacking him for like being shitty to 346 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: dead soldiers, and I was shocked that Trump followed him 347 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: on that. Fucking they talked about that. So it was 348 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: a huge It was as big as the economy they 349 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: talked about. 350 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: Like veterans for so long and just like weird circles. 351 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: That that was an interesting one. A few other just 352 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: fun lines that were thrown in, Biden calling them the 353 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: Paris Piece accords, very cool. 354 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: Funny stuff. 355 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: Biden's saying that Trump has the mortals of an alley cat. 356 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: That's a great line. 357 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: That was a good line. That's a great that was 358 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: That was again, this was number one. 359 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: He didn't slur any of us where I'm not saying 360 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: that to be shitty, but it affects his performance. He 361 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: was very clear in the leanup of like these are 362 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: the he's a bad person, which he is. That's a 363 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: strong thing to hit him on. And I hope again 364 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 3: we'll talk more about like will this matter, but I 365 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: hope strategically what the dims realizes that like that is 366 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: a thing to keep hitting him on because it actually 367 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: matters in terms of like how voters think of the guys. 368 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: It's it's a way to actually hurt Trump because he 369 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: is a really obviously shitty person. 370 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: One other thing Trump did in terms of you know 371 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: this whole black jobs thing is Trump did hammer Biden 372 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: on super predators. 373 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was interesting to say. 374 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: I feel like Trump actually did a did an okay job. 375 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: They're it's not me endorsing Trump's behavior, but this is 376 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: this is He's like that was that was a good 377 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: move for him? 378 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: Is an interesting one too. 379 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised that he he went for it, 380 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: because that's like, yeah, that was surprising. 381 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: Do you know what isn't surprising, Robert? 382 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: How much we love the sponsors of this podcast? 383 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: Who are you know? 384 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: I often think of the president as like a father, 385 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, or like my father during different times. 386 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: Right. 387 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: Trump is like my father that time he brought a 388 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: home the movie Event Horizon, thinking it would be like 389 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: a fun little science fiction rop and Biden is like 390 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: my dad when he's snuck in the South Park movie, 391 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: but he had not gotten the right language version, so 392 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 3: we couldn't actually watch it. Right, They're all they're different 393 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: eras of everyone's dad. I don't know these sponsors are 394 00:18:52,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: our father. Anyway, We're back. 395 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: So one thing that I'm looking forward to is that 396 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: if Trump does get elected, he will settle the Ukraine 397 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 2: War as president elect. So that's great news for all 398 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: of us. I'm excited before he's even inaugurated. That down 399 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: that was really. 400 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: The Yeah, it's interesting to see him kind of adopt 401 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: the whole Ukraine has cooked. They've lost all of their 402 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: young men line. That's not a great thing to hear 403 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: in terms of like, it's exactly what Putin wants, it's 404 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 3: exactly what Russia wants. It's not accurate to like what 405 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 3: we've actually seen on the ground, which is another Russian 406 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: defensive completely stall out, despite what was supposed to be 407 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: like an overwhelming advantage in theater and artillery. But I 408 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: don't think it matters. I don't think that shit's going 409 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: to move the election. 410 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: At the end of the day. 411 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: I could bitch about like US policy in Eastern Europe, 412 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 3: but nobody votes based on that. I do, but nobody 413 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 3: else does right like and I barely do. 414 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 5: Like. 415 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: It's it's just not It's not a needle mover in 416 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: the same way that fucking inflation or the economy or 417 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: crime or the border is. 418 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Trump was harping on it because he's just 419 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: trying to blame all of these new conflicts on Biden, 420 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: being like, all these things happened since Biden was president. 421 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: If I was president, this wouldn't have happened, you know, 422 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: Magically right, And that's that's a very easy move for 423 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: Trump is to bring up all of the bad things 424 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: that have happened since Biden's took office and say this 425 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: is Biden's fault. We have that with Ukraine, they talked 426 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: they talked about Ukraine for like a really. 427 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: It was a shocking amount of the debate. 428 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: A decent a decent amount of the time, like way 429 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: way longer than they talked about Israel and Palestine, which 430 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: is kind of surprising to me. Now I can understand 431 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: how both them would want to just avoid talking about that, 432 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: but I'm surprised, like the moderators like, let that happen. 433 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: I guess I. 434 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: Don't think, I mean the monitors, moderators let everything happen. 435 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: I think I've put who I am surprised about was 436 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: Trump because he kept going back to Ukraine, which is 437 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: not a strong issue for him. Now Israel Palestine really 438 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: isn't either. Most Americans don't like what Israel is doing. 439 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: There's even a lot of question about that on the 440 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: Republican side. So his choices are either be all fucking 441 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: genocide about it and alienate a lot of moderates, or 442 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: kind of hedge it and just try to attack Biden 443 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: for his performance, which is what he did. 444 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Which is which is what he did. 445 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't do much of it compared to getting 446 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: drawn again and again into arguments over NATO. I was 447 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: really surprised that he kept following Joe back to fucking NATO. 448 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: It was really weird. 449 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a bizarre choice for him, like when 450 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: he had a million other places his Trump's response on Palestine, 451 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: I want to talk about it. 452 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 4: Oh, that was bleak. 453 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that was one of the worst moments in this 454 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: country's entire history. 455 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that reready set a new loave for me. 456 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: And we've got like, what eight seven to eight genocide, So, 457 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: you know, pretty bad moment. 458 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a country built on genocide. That 459 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 5: that one. That one was pretty pretty bad. 460 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 461 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: So basically Trump was harping on Biden for not being 462 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: pro genocide enough and said something that I really never 463 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: I did not see coming. He said that that Biden 464 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: has become like a Palestinian, A bad Palestinian. 465 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, a bad Palestinian because he doesn't do bad enough things. 466 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 4: What was that? What was the exact line that followed that? 467 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: So Trump says, quote, He's become like a Palestinian, but 468 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: a bad Palestinian because they don't like him very much. 469 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: There you go, thank you. We needed the whole thought. 470 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: He's a weak one. 471 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Palestinians don't like him, and I hate the Palestinians, 472 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: but you should be liked by your own pep. I'm 473 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: trying to put together the logic here. 474 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: It was. It was really bad. But like basically using 475 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: Palestinian as an insult to Biden, you know, that's not great. 476 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: Trump also had a lie how quote the Palestinians and 477 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: everyone are rioting right now? 478 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I assume who was he? 479 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: I think he's referring to the campus protests, just calling 480 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: everyone at those protests Palestinians, which is a really interesting, 481 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: like political move. 482 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, and a dangerous one potentially. 483 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 484 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we knock on wood whenever we may have wood. 485 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: That's a good Trump line. That's a good Trump line. 486 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 487 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And James James was giving him ship for 488 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: that earlier. But this is this is you and your 489 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: Ivory tower. A lot of people don't have wood. You know, 490 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro could only afford one board. 491 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: That's true. 492 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben Cheroney got wood once. Yeah, that's exactly right, 493 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 5: you know, small amount of wood at that he was 494 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 5: lucky enough to find it. 495 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: We can't all. 496 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: And he put his wood in a little bag. 497 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: So this was a This was a bit on healthcare, 498 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: right or is about a garrison? 499 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: Well he was yeah, he was talking about being healthy 500 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, I'm still healthy. You know, 501 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: knock on wood. We all knock on wood where we 502 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: find wood. 503 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: Or something like that. 504 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: But he was being we have wood. 505 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: He was kind of trying to Actually, this may be 506 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of like a fuck up by him 507 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: because he was hitting Biden pretty successfully in Biden's age, 508 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: But then he dropped a line so baffling that it 509 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: was like it focused tradition where I was like, what 510 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: do you mean by this? 511 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: They were talking about Yeah, they're talking about being in 512 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: good health and that's and that's where they got into 513 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: the little golf argument and weight, who would who would? 514 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: Who would play golf better? And yeah, if if Trump 515 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: could carry his own golf clubs. A really good line 516 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: was we bought a certain dog. 517 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was Yeah, we bought a certain dog. 518 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 5: You wouldn't believe it. 519 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: Can sniff. 520 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: And then he just kept talking about machines that could 521 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: sniff Thinn talking. 522 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 5: About these these machines that they have to suppose to 523 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 5: detect fens and on the border, which they've spent millions 524 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: of dollars on. But they've been doing this since a 525 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: Trump administration, Like this is not a new thing. It 526 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: was in his border bill. But there's nothing compacked to 527 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: we we bought a certain dog. 528 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Oh god, have you guys seen the dark Brandon's secret sauce. 529 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: Robert share this immediately. 530 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've just shed He's lost Jeff heedrig which. 531 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: Is there's a there's a post that Joe made right 532 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: before the debate would have started that I'm just gonna 533 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: send it to the chat while I describe it to 534 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: the listener. It's Joe with like a can in his 535 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: hand and it's a can. 536 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Dot com slash home. 537 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: Hea, I'm on the Joe Bison water. No, so he's 538 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: got he's got a can of this. 539 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: It's like a water and a beer can and it's 540 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: called zero Malarkey Biden, and it's got a dark branded 541 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: image with the laser eyes. Get real, Jack, it's just water. 542 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 3: And then Biden's actual teak says, I don't know what 543 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: they have got these performance and answers. But I'm feeling 544 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: pretty jacked up for yourself, folks. And for four dollars 545 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: and sixty cents you can get a looks like one 546 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: can of Biden water. The se I'm on the website now. 547 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: The secret to a good debate performance staying hydrated, same 548 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: performance and answers Joe Biden took before going on stage. 549 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: We need to get well. Just get a company on this, guys. 550 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get wrecked. 551 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: Because he looked fucked up. 552 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: I've got some experience with performance, you know, hunting to 553 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: device drug users in my in my career. 554 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: This is if any I miss having a good GHB hookup, 555 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: you know, this would be hurt that. I feel like 556 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: that would get me on Joe's level, right. 557 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 5: I think only a brain injury could get you on 558 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 5: Joe's level right now. 559 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 4: That's why I brought up GHB. 560 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: The last time I want to discuss in terms of 561 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: what was talking about at the debate is January sixth, 562 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: and Trump kind of tried to avoid the question over 563 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: whether he would concede the election, saying that he would 564 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: only if it was a fair election. 565 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: Only if it was a fair election. 566 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: But Trump's line on January sixth. Let me tell you 567 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: about January sixth. We had great borders on January. 568 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: Sixth, oh that whole speed. 569 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: We had a great economy on January sixth. 570 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 5: It is very funny. I should post some pictures I took. 571 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 5: I took them just after January sixth. I took in 572 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: the week of Biden's election of the border wall, just 573 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: stopping in random places, like where they got to a 574 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: certain level of construction and just stopped like we. 575 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: I found Trump's direction here kind of interesting. He tried 576 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: to kind of really avoid talking about his own opinions 577 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: on the actual capital insurrection. His very first reaction was 578 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: to say, no, well, the rest of the country was 579 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: doing so much better because I was the president. The 580 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: moderators kind of forced him to talk a little bit 581 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: about it, but he really avoided it as much as 582 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: he could, which is, you know, he doesn't want to 583 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: alienate his base. He also doesn't want to like, uh, 584 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: you know, be too pro j six and scare away 585 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: like independence, So he was really skirting that line. It's 586 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: just weird because moderators were so much stronger on this 587 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: question during the debate primaries for the GOP. Yeah, which 588 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: which Trump wasn't even present for. They really harped on 589 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: this here and on this. They did not care at all. 590 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: They really they really did not push pushed Trump on 591 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: on J six whatsoever. And it was it was kind 592 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: of pathetic. 593 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, no, no, it was. It was. It was terrible. 594 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 5: Like the moderators could well, they didn't moderate at all. 595 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 5: They just asked some questions and then let it fucking rip. 596 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: I think let's just move on to finally talking about 597 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: like the debate in general. I think the GOP will 598 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: probably be pretty happy with Trump's performance here. 599 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did what he needed to. 600 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: They're gonna call us a dub. I think the Democrats 601 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: are probably kind of scrambling right now, trying to figure 602 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: out what the next move is. 603 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: I hope it's possible for someone to be like we 604 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: got time. Throw Pritzkerrin, throw fucking wit Marin. You know 605 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: either of them, right, I honestly, you. 606 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: Know, you know Robert, this is this is how Berdie 607 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: can still win. 608 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: I know he's too fucking old. 609 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: I don't I will say I think he probably, based 610 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: on the last time I saw him speak, I think 611 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: he probably would have done better than Joe did in this, 612 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: but not if he had a cold, right, Like, that's 613 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: the thing. I believe Joe has a cold, and that 614 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: that's why he sounded like shit. But you know what, 615 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: a strong young person with a cold could pull it 616 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: together for an hour he write down. 617 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: That's he could lock down. 618 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: This is we shouldn't have to explain, like, it's not 619 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: I don't give a shit. Old people shouldn't be the 620 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: fucking president. 621 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: They shouldn't. 622 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: Old people should not be the fucking president passed the past. 623 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: The point at which I feel like if somebody, like 624 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: if I was if we were helping you move and 625 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: I was like carrying something heavy and I turned around, 626 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: I slapped in the face with like a board or 627 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: something or a piece of furniture. If I have to 628 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: be worried that your skull is gonna crack, you shouldn't 629 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: be the fucking president. You should be able to like 630 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: I should feel confident that you can jumpstart a car 631 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: without blowing up my battery, you know, Like I don't 632 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: feel that for either of these men. 633 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: They both look unwell. 634 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you let these people go into supermarket, they 635 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 5: would be lost. 636 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not good. It's so. 637 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people make jokes about this, right, 638 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: people love joking about how old they are. How and coher. 639 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: I was shocked. I was shocked at how bad Biden 640 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: did this debate. 641 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: He looked so bad. He looked so bad. 642 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: It was one of his worst public speaking outings. Horrible, 643 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: like in a long time. 644 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: Look like, yeah, I am not competent to diagnose shit, 645 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: but I lived with my grandfather for the last ten 646 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: years as he died of Parkinson's, and it's there's a 647 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: shuffle you get to recognize, right Like, I don't know 648 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: if it's Parkinson's, but he's not a well old man's 649 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: sick old man, and he shouldn't be president. 650 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: There is there is a reason I put candidate collapses 651 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: on stage on my Bingo card, which we did not get, 652 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: but we sure got close. 653 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: We got close, very close. 654 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: I filled out almost all my Bingo card, it was 655 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: and I did not pick easy ones too. You can 656 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: you can check me on this. You can check you 657 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: can check the card on Twitter. And I yeah, I was, 658 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: I was, uh, just I just felt really bad. 659 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 4: I feel terrible. 660 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask half that debate gear, how do 661 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 3: you feel about getting your citizenship? You jazzed, Well, this 662 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: is a great this is a great proud time, proud 663 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: time to become an American. 664 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 2: It is better than it's better than it's better than 665 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: only having a green card. 666 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, true, I can tell you it's just someone who 667 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 5: recent the upgrading to American status. It is at least 668 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: it's a little bit less concerning with the ship that 669 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: Trump is saying. Yeah, and old Biden didn't. 670 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: Well any any final thoughts. 671 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: I hope Gavin Newsome doesn't pull out a way to 672 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: become the president. I don't want him to be the president. 673 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: He is going to be. My prediction is he will 674 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: be the twenty twenty eight nominee. He's a very good chance, 675 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: really hard. It's between the smart option based on where 676 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: we stand now. For now war for twenty twenty eight 677 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: is Pritzker. I think Whitmer would also be a great pick. 678 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: Pritzker is really good with conservatives, and he's really good 679 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: with conservatives without like folding completely on shit, Whereas Whittmer 680 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: has some weakness just because of how much time has 681 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: been directed in attacking her over like the COVID twenty 682 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: twenty shit. But either of them I think are strong candidates. 683 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: Who are a lot better than Gavin Newsom. But you 684 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: are right, he's going to be a strong candidate in 685 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. Well, I think that does it for me, 686 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: at least here on It could happen here. 687 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk real briefly. Do we think that debate matters? 688 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: Do we think that this is a thing that is 689 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: going to turn an election? I think can. 690 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I think it actually does. I think I think 691 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: this could actually hurt some voter enthusiasm. I think people 692 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: who are maybe looking at Biden being like, yeah, probably 693 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: if he keeps performing like this, people might just not 694 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: vote for him. I'm not they probably maybe some of 695 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: them might move over to Trump if they're like weird, 696 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: like independence, many of them just might not vote at all. 697 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: Like I think if if Biden shows that he is 698 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: just kind of a bumbling, in like incompetent old man, 699 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: that's not gonna help an already kind of dire situation 700 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: in terms of voter enthusiasm and possible voter turnout. So yeah, 701 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: I think this actually does have a decent chance to 702 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: hurt Biden. I don't think the debates will necessarily hurt Trump. 703 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think will necessarily help Trump, like majorly, 704 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: but I think they can subtract support away from Biden. 705 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: See that's where and I don't I don't have a 706 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: strong feeling on which way this is going to land either, 707 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: you know, in either case. But some of the data 708 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: we're seeing, particularly how well Trump performs relative to Biden 709 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: on voter who are like not sure they're going to vote, right, 710 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: I think this might be the first election where a 711 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: higher turnout would be bad for Biden. 712 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: But I also don't know. 713 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: I think if any if this depresses, I think you 714 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: are right that if this depresses turnout, it's going to 715 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: be worse. It's going to be Biden turnout, right, Although 716 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just don't know. I feel just 717 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: like I don't want to do the easy thing would 718 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: be to just like pick a lane and stay in it. 719 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: And but I if it comes to my honest opinion, 720 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: I still have no fucking clue how this is going 721 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: to go. Because at no point has this been election 722 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: been about do you think Joe Biden will be a 723 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 3: good president. It's been about are you scared of Donald Trump? 724 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 4: Right? I don't know that you're less scared. 725 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: I think the worry for Biden is that people are 726 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: now more scared that he is going to sleepwalk his 727 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: way through a nuclear war as opposed to Trump at 728 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: least being lucid for it. But I just don't know 729 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: how that's going to actually shake out in the long run. 730 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: God bless the USA. 731 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 4: We do and great, good conventions are gonna be great. 732 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, stay tuned. 733 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 4: He could be dead in a week. 734 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: That really is like the wild car that he could 735 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: be dead tonight on the back of my brain all 736 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: the time is like either one of these guys, especially 737 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: Biden could just like not exist tomorrow, like he could. 738 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: He could just he could have He could get a 739 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 2: little too stressed out and just kind of fall over. 740 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: I mean, they could meaningfully make the argument tomorrow that 741 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 5: like that's been a significant decline in his health and 742 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 5: he is not physically capable of being president because that's 743 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 5: what we saw, Like. 744 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't. He looks bad like. 745 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: If he was. I don't think they will. 746 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: If the things, whatever things you consider worst and for 747 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: me with Biden it's it's the border in Palestine. But 748 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: if whatever things you consider worst about Biden weren't a thing, 749 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: I would purely be like for this man's health and safety. 750 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: Get him out of this job, get him somewhere comfortable, 751 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: let him enjoy his final years. Don't make him do this. 752 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, it's good, It's not right. Fuck. 753 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 5: Part of me wants to read this Jeff ted Rich 754 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 5: tweet to finish at a. 755 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: Certain point, we're all complicit in elder abuse. But I 756 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: guess they but we are for both of them. Yeah, 757 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: like in certain ways, In some ways, the American system 758 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: is pushing these two sick old men towards the disastrous. 759 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: That's also why I can't trust anything they say on 760 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: social Security, because they clearly have a vested interest. 761 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 4: I can't see. 762 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 5: I will say, we saw the president of Olivia face 763 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 5: down a coup yesterday. I think that that would not 764 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 5: be possible for either of these men in. 765 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: God. 766 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: All right, I want to go cry and go to sleep. 767 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's bad. That's good. 768 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 5: Make some friends, guys. 769 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep drinking. 770 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, do a little mutual aid. 771 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm gonna buy some of the Biden water 772 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: with company money. 773 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: It could happen here as a production of cool Zone Media. 774 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website. 775 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Coolzonemedia dot com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 776 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts, you can 777 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: find sources for It could happen here, Updated monthly at 778 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: coolzonemedia dot com slash sources. 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