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Speaker 1: Jamila Souffrant from Journey to Launch. Hey, Jamila, Hi, Mandy, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you for thank you for joining the show, especially

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Speaker 1: have my mother in law would kill me for saying that,

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Speaker 1: but you know she's not as helpful.

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Speaker 4: As she thinks she is.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a lot of family, So I mean,

441
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Speaker 1: for me, it's flying my mom in and I have

442
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Speaker 1: my cousin lives with me. I'll be transparent about that.

443
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Speaker 1: I have a young cousin, my baby who's not a

444
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Speaker 1: baby anymore, but she's like a mother's helper for me

445
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Speaker 1: at home. I could not have done this without her,

446
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Speaker 1: and I need that help. So what does that look

447
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Speaker 1: like for you?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

449
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Speaker 3: So, I you know, I also had a lot of

450
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Speaker 3: more living help in the beginning of my children's like

451
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Speaker 3: when they were younger, and but that has since gone away.

452
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Speaker 3: My aunt also used to live with us and help

453
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Speaker 3: out with the kids, right, and I have just to

454
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Speaker 3: give contact. I have a seven, five and three year

455
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Speaker 3: old and so but she went on for other opportunities

456
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Speaker 3: when they all were supposed to be.

457
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Speaker 2: In school, and then so with that happening, like that.

458
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Speaker 3: They're not in school or that when it started to happen,

459
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Speaker 3: the pandemic happened, and so we just had to figure

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Speaker 3: it out. And so I was making good strides because

461
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Speaker 3: I finally did find someone that was going to be

462
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Speaker 3: like a babysitter slash like tutor to help them after school,

463
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Speaker 3: versus me having to stop what I'm doing like midday

464
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Speaker 3: because they need to be picked up by two and

465
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Speaker 3: then like you know, with them.

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Speaker 4: School, what even is that?

467
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Speaker 2: Right too?

468
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Speaker 3: And so I'm just like, so I finally found someone

469
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Speaker 3: that was like, all right, I can do this.

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Speaker 2: But then, of.

471
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Speaker 3: Course with everything, especially with this Marion, I'm gonna call

472
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Speaker 3: it the Marion variant, like it was just like a

473
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Speaker 3: little touch and go because you know, school classes were

474
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Speaker 3: being exposed. Even though everyone's faxed, all the adults are vaccinated,

475
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Speaker 3: we still didn't want like to pass on it unnecessary,

476
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Speaker 3: like you know, something if something was happening. So while

477
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Speaker 3: I thought like I was set for the new year,

478
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Speaker 3: like okay, because she's gonna be here at two every day,

479
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Speaker 3: it was like she wasn't able to come last week

480
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Speaker 3: because you know, we just wanted to be safe that

481
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Speaker 3: since my daughter was home, like everyone was safe. So

482
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Speaker 3: like even with that, it's like we have the help.

483
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Speaker 3: But and even though people are vaccinated, it still impacts

484
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Speaker 3: what we're doing and how I can look forward. So

485
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Speaker 3: right now it's really touch and go. It's like we're

486
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Speaker 3: figuring the rest of it exactly. And so I have about,

487
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Speaker 3: you know, a couple hours if I'm lucky to have

488
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Speaker 3: some deep work time, and in this case not really

489
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Speaker 3: because my daughter's still home.

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Speaker 1: And then can I just say again, thank you so

491
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Speaker 1: much for showing up for brown ambition. I don't know,

492
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm just like, I don't know, a little heavily

493
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Speaker 1: emotional because Tip isn't here, But I just really appreciate

494
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Speaker 1: it because I mean I feel it like, why aren't

495
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Speaker 1: we both taking naps right now?

496
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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, well that's another thing I think as so right now,

498
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Speaker 3: my daughter the only reason I'm doing this or able

499
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Speaker 3: to do this is because she's on our iPad and

500
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Speaker 3: that has been my reality of getting any work done

501
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Speaker 3: when she's home is like screen time.

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Speaker 2: And I have to let.

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Speaker 3: Go of the guilt because of course it's just like, oh,

504
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Speaker 3: like I should be doing things with her, but it's

505
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Speaker 3: just like one, I don't really want to and to

506
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Speaker 3: I have things I have to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is some days that it's like there is

508
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Speaker 1: no grand plan. It is what can you squeeze in,

509
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Speaker 1: you know, in those three to four I feel like

510
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Speaker 1: I have three to four working hours a day, and

511
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Speaker 1: I do. And being entrepreneurs at home, does your husband

512
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Speaker 1: work from home or is he out working?

513
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Speaker 3: Now he's a teacher, so he's going in and he's teaching.

514
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Speaker 3: But one of the things that I did this year

515
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Speaker 3: too was I'm trying to outsource. So okay, maybe the

516
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Speaker 3: babysitter is a touch and go depending on the week,

517
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Speaker 3: but I did find someone who can cook our meals

518
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Speaker 3: for the week and so we just started that last

519
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Speaker 3: week and it's been amazing. And so I'm thinking about

520
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Speaker 3: things like that, like how can I invest or spend

521
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Speaker 3: more money where I can get time back. And when

522
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Speaker 3: I think about like the food, I get happy, you know,

523
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Speaker 3: I think about that I don't have to do it.

524
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Speaker 3: And what's crazy is I'm still doing the preparing of

525
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Speaker 3: it because she prepares it and it's in batch, but

526
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Speaker 3: I still have to put it into plates. And that

527
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Speaker 3: feels very nurturing because I know what each kid likes

528
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Speaker 3: and you know what they don't like. And so for me,

529
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Speaker 3: it's like, where can I do that? Where can I

530
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Speaker 3: outsource and get help in the home where I need it?

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Speaker 3: Because I the kind of work I want to do

532
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Speaker 3: in the world, like I need help. I can I

533
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Speaker 3: can't like raise my family or raise this family and

534
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Speaker 3: be the type of mom and wife I want to

535
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Speaker 3: be and create this impactful business.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it all. I need support in both areas.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about loneliness and there was

538
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Speaker 1: actually a really heartbreaking TikTok video that I watched from

539
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Speaker 1: a woman. I'll try and find it, but she was

540
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Speaker 1: talking about how for two for people who are single

541
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Speaker 1: and living alone through the pandemic, it's been two years

542
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Speaker 1: of loneliness, and I, like I said, I could not

543
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Speaker 1: have survived if I had not imported my cousin from

544
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Speaker 1: Atlantage or I was like, you're not doing anything virtual college,

545
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Speaker 1: like why don't you come live with us and help me,

546
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Speaker 1: I mean without her and you know, being able to

547
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Speaker 1: get my mom here when I need them. It has

548
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Speaker 1: made me think differently even about how I mentor women

549
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Speaker 1: who are even working like just you know, regular nine

550
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Speaker 1: to five jobs and feeling like they can't do it all,

551
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Speaker 1: you know, the things that we're talking about. You know,

552
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Speaker 1: I do have someone who cleans when I need them.

553
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Speaker 1: I don't have I'm not on that, you know, get

554
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Speaker 1: meals prepared, but with my door dash budget, I might

555
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Speaker 1: as well be paying someone.

556
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Speaker 4: To cook for me at this you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like mathematically it makes sense, but these

558
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Speaker 1: are you know, decisions that are made when you have

559
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Speaker 1: the resource, do them for even women who don't have

560
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Speaker 1: the resources. I'm like, honestly, if I could go back,

561
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Speaker 1: I would. I would even say to myself, like, you

562
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Speaker 1: don't need to live in New York all the time.

563
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Speaker 1: Move closer to your parents, you know, move closer to

564
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Speaker 1: family who can support you and I this whole pandemic.

565
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Speaker 1: And from financial standpoint too, I have rethought the way

566
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Speaker 1: I think about that support and being close. There's so

567
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Speaker 1: much value and cost savings to having people in your

568
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Speaker 1: pod who can support you. So if that means moving

569
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Speaker 1: closer to family, having family moved closer to you, I

570
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Speaker 1: think it is so worth it, especially if financially you

571
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Speaker 1: can't like hire that out, you know what I mean.

572
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Speaker 1: And it's it's the kind of advice I couldn't see

573
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Speaker 1: myself giving five, six, seven years ago. But yeah, families, money.

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Speaker 3: Well, and what you're talking about too, what I usually

575
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Speaker 3: like to call it is like goal fuel. So we'll

576
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Speaker 3: set these goals and intentions that we have for ourselves

577
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Speaker 3: career maybe wise or creative typically wise or even work

578
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 3: out right. Like someone to say, I want to go

579
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Speaker 3: to the gym more, but maybe you can't go to

580
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Speaker 3: gym because you know, you have your kids with you, you

581
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Speaker 3: need someone to help watch them, and or there's just

582
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Speaker 3: other things happening that prevent you from doing that. So

583
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Speaker 3: I like to say, what's the fuel, what's the support

584
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Speaker 3: or that's going to help you reach that goal? Because

585
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Speaker 3: if you set these goals but then you don't have

586
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Speaker 3: the support or fuel around you to help you reach that,

587
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Speaker 3: then you're not going to and then you're gonna get

588
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: frustrated at yourself. So in my case, if I have,

589
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: but so many hours in the day, and I don't

590
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Speaker 3: like cooking anyway, so I really am not missing that.

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Speaker 2: Part of it. And I want to be able to

592
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Speaker 2: like really either choose.

593
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Speaker 3: What I want to do with that time. To be

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Speaker 3: outsourcing and paying for food services makes sense for me,

595
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Speaker 3: and if I were trying to do it all, I

596
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Speaker 3: would lack in the area that is important to me.

597
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Speaker 3: So what does that mean. That means I have to

598
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Speaker 3: find that support. That means I have to ask around, like, Okay,

599
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Speaker 3: is there a family. So in this case, it was

600
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Speaker 3: a friend of the family who really likes to cook,

601
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Speaker 3: and she's a good cook, and that's what she's doing.

602
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Speaker 3: And I just think that for a lot of people,

603
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: it's about being not so harsh in yourself if you

604
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Speaker 3: do have to outsource, and then also making room in

605
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: your budget. So again, I like to be honest, like

606
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: this comes from a place of we have it in

607
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: our budget to be able to do this, but I

608
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Speaker 3: also make it a priority. So it fit means that

609
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Speaker 3: we're saving or investing less because right now I'm getting

610
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Speaker 3: more support emotionally and in the household. I'm going to

611
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Speaker 3: do that because otherwise I'm going to go crazy, and

612
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of women or people who have

613
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Speaker 3: that role in their household need to make that decision.

614
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Speaker 3: And it's okay to make that decision because I think

615
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 3: this impacts your mental wellbeing and emotional wellbeing, the kind

616
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Speaker 3: of support you have. So make it a priority in

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Speaker 3: your budget.

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Speaker 1: Which then gives you the mental bandwidth to do the

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Speaker 1: work that will bring you more resources. I love that,

620
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Speaker 1: and that's why I've talked about on the show having

621
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Speaker 1: your budget be a living, breathing thing that you review,

622
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Speaker 1: that it's not just like a rigid stick that you

623
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Speaker 1: kind of beat yourself up with, because when you're it

624
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: can get in your own way, you know what I mean.

625
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: It's like me every year when I'm like I'm gonna

626
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Speaker 1: lose seventy five pounds, I'm like, are you really? You know,

627
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: maybe we can start with one pounds a month. And

628
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Speaker 1: the idea of micro goals is something that I have.

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Speaker 1: So you talked about goal fuel for me breaking down

630
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Speaker 1: not looking so much at like huge, big goals for

631
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Speaker 1: myself and more like micro goals. Like a micro goal

632
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Speaker 1: for myself is drinking a gallon water of a gallon

633
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Speaker 1: of water a day. Another micro goal is to move

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Speaker 1: ten minutes a day, which is very hard for me

635
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Speaker 1: because my ego gets in the wage. Mila, I want

636
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Speaker 1: to book a half marathon in May and get ready

637
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Speaker 1: for it, you know what I mean. That's how I've

638
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Speaker 1: typically done my fitness goals.

639
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Speaker 4: And it just creates stress.

640
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Speaker 1: And am I realistically going to.

641
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Have time to train for a half mite?

642
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Speaker 2: No?

643
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: But can I move ten minutes a day? Yes, whether

644
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Speaker 1: it's stretching, you know, those micro goals. Can we talk

645
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: about vision boards for a second though, Yeah, let's do it.

646
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Have you done the vision board? What do you think

647
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: about vision? How do you feel about the vision? And

648
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about to be clear, like the last year,

649
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: my cousin and I spent over one hundred dollars buying magazines,

650
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: which is so dumb because who gets magazines anymore? Like

651
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars at cvs, like getting magazines to cut

652
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: them up for a vision board, you know what I mean?

653
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Speaker 1: And I was like, does this makes sense?

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Speaker 4: But how do you? How do you feel about it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm one of those.

656
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Speaker 3: People where like in my head, I want to be

657
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Speaker 3: one of those people who crafts and do vision boards,

658
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: and I'm like I'm gonna do it, and I just

659
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: never do. I feel like I have a vision board

660
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: in my head, like I have ideas and and things

661
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: and and visuals of what I want to happen in

662
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: my life, but I have not done an actual physical

663
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: vision board.

664
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm Canva. I've done it in Canva, which.

665
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 4: Is now, I can do it in Canva.

666
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: You can do it in.

667
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: Canva, which is you know, you could do a bunch

668
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: of fun things in there. But to be realistic with myself,

669
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: it sounds good and I know a lot of people

670
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: who do it and it works really well, and I

671
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: would even say that as advice, you know, do a

672
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: vision board. But for me, I've found that I almost

673
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: like a vision in my head the things that I

674
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Speaker 3: want to happen, like when I go to sleep, when

675
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: I can't sleep at night, like I kind of like

676
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: create these scenarios and like that. That's me visioning. So

677
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: that's another just alternate if you don't want to cut

678
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 3: out magazines.

679
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: Just daydreaming.

680
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been doing that since forever. So I actually

681
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: just before you and I hopped on, I was on

682
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: an hour long vision board virtual vision board session.

683
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Speaker 4: So I have A.

684
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Speaker 1: I got a business coach at the end of last year,

685
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: shout out to Maya and she she has like a

686
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: she has a more structured, like twelve week program for entrepreneurs.

687
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a part of that, but she said, you know,

688
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: if you want to come, I'm doing a vision board

689
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: guided vision board virtually with my cohort. And I was like, hell, yeah,

690
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: I want to come check that out. I'm planning like

691
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: a virtual vision goal setting session too for Mandy money Makers,

692
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: which starts in mid January, and I want to talk

693
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: about that's really exciting. But anyway, so what Maya did

694
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: and what I liked is it was through Canva, but

695
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: it was mostly like guided questions. And what I liked

696
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: about that is it was like you were saying, like

697
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: it was a lot of visualization just in your own

698
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: mind and questions around for example, in even in ten years,

699
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: where do you envision yourself sitting at noon on a

700
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Monday in ten years? Who's around you? What does it

701
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: smell like, what's outside the window? Is there a window?

702
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: You know, these types of questions, and I just found

703
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: that so much more relaxing than trying to cut up

704
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: pictures in a magazine and find ones that matched what

705
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: I could envision for myself. And I don't know, I

706
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it and I.

707
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: Feel like too.

708
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: Doing it virtually with like women, like other people on

709
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: the call, it just helped me. Like even some women

710
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: are like, I just want a really good cocktail, you know,

711
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: ten years from now. And the common theme was like

712
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: there weren't that much any people around in our future visions.

713
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: It was like core family, peace and calm and anyway,

714
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: just kind of set the tone for my vision, my

715
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: like goal setting for this year, whereas I think a

716
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: week ago, I would have been like I gotta do

717
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: this and and da da da, and I gotta have

718
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: millions in da da da, you know, like just all

719
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: over the place. And it kind of helped me center

720
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: myself a little bit.

721
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people. I think it's also important to

722
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: know your personality. So there's so many people who will

723
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: give your advice on how to set goals and what

724
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: to do to reach those goals. And you have to

725
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: choose and pick and try things out. And so let's

726
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: just say you're not in a place you want to

727
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: be in life. You realize like, wow, like I'm not

728
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: hitting any goals. Or I haven't made any goals and

729
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: I feel stuck, then you should try something different. And

730
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: I know for myself what I've and what I tell

731
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: other people journeyers who listen to my stuff, where I'm

732
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: just like you.

733
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: You have to try different things until you find what

734
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: works for you.

735
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: And you may find like the more structured sitting down

736
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: doing a vision board is not helpful for you. You

737
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: may find that sitting and meditating and visualizations.

738
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Work better for you. You may find.

739
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: Like you said, you know just actually talking with the

740
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: group of friends who are positive about your hopes and

741
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: dreams are that too.

742
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Or maybe all of the above.

743
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: So I think it's important to know your personality know

744
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: what works, but you don't know what works until you

745
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: try it. And if you're in a position of your

746
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: life where you feel like things are not working out,

747
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: then you should be trying different things and therefore seeing

748
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: what works what you can add to your well. Like

749
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: I say, toolbox to go with you on your.

750
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: Journey and give yourself that freedom to try something different

751
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: is really hard for perfectionists. I'm a recovering perfectionist. I

752
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: have a really hard time when I decide to do something,

753
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: I just kind of create this deadline or I create

754
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: this goal and I'm like, okay, or I'm going to

755
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: I create a process or a system to achieve it.

756
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: I got really good at this as a manager. I

757
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: would constantly remove processes that weren't working or make them

758
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: more efficient all that, But personally, I'm just like, but

759
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I got to do it by this date. And you know,

760
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: whether it's my therapist or my husband or my business coach,

761
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: they're like, who says And I'm like, well, Mandy told

762
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: me to do it, But you know, and just giving

763
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: yourself that that freedom to try something and then decide

764
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: you don't like it or not.

765
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: So the quote that came up in my head that

766
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: I've read recently was perfection is the voice of the oppressor.

767
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: And sometimes sometimes we oppress or we like, we really

768
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: halt our own growth with the perfection thing, because nothing

769
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: is going to be perfect. And by the time you

770
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: make it perfect or you think it all out and

771
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: think it should be this way, it's it's not like

772
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: by the time you even get it out into the

773
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: world you do it, it's something totally different that needs

774
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: to be done. So and this is also too with

775
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: your money. I find this all the time, Like you

776
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: know people who are like I want to know the

777
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: exact right thing to do, and so therefore I'm not

778
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: going to do anything. And while I'm not advocating for

779
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: you to just like go out and just like make

780
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: rash decisions, it's also just like that's why it's important

781
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: to listen to podcasts like ours and to educate yourself

782
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: as much as possible to to get the skill sets

783
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: with inside of you to make good decisions. Like you

784
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: trust your decision making and know that even if you

785
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: make a wrong decision, like nothing is going to be

786
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: the end of the world, right, you can you can

787
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: recalibrate and try something different. And I think that for me,

788
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: that's been a big part of my success is knowing

789
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: that I won't have it all figured out. I know

790
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: that I'm just gonna go do it. It's not always

791
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: going to be pretty, but nothing is going to cause

792
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: my death, so therefore I can retry again like the

793
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: next day.

794
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 4: It's okay.

795
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: I say that a lot in career coaching. You know,

796
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: ask for it, you probably won't die. I'm like ninety

797
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent sure you're not going to die,

798
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: you know, And there is that fear and a lot

799
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: of times I act to remind clients or I don't

800
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: know what to call it. It feels weird saying clients, mentees whatever.

801
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, if you they're like, well, what if I

802
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: take this job.

803
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: And I end up hating it, then you'll get a

804
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: different job.

805
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Like you probably won't hate it because the things that

806
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: you hated about your last job, you've you purposefully went

807
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: for a different direction this time.

808
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: But let's say you do like Devil's advocate.

809
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: Let's say you do end up haating it, or they

810
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: treat you bad, or you know, there's layoffs and you

811
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: get laid off and you did everything right. You know,

812
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: I've been there, I've been laid off, I've been let

813
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: go all that, and it is like liberating when you

814
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: can kind of start when you like, face that fear

815
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: head on and you imagine the worst, not saying all

816
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: the time, we don't want to stay in that negative headspace,

817
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: but go ahead and imagine it, and just know it

818
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: doesn't like take away from the hard work that has

819
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: gotten you work to where you are. When you get

820
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: let go or you decide you want to quit a job,

821
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you've erased all your experience or

822
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: your contacts, you know, those seeds that you've been planting,

823
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: and sometimes just talking that out and having the other

824
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: person remind you of that is So it's liberating in

825
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: that sense.

826
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: And a lot of times our worst case scenario, like

827
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: we make it worse, like we.

828
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: Were thinking the worst.

829
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: Like in my head, I'm always thinking sometimes like if

830
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: I even say something or do something, I'm thinking about

831
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: the like the worst thing that person can.

832
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: Do to respond to me, and they don't ever do that.

833
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like, so the oppressor in my head is

834
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: always making up these situations, these drama scenarios that hardly

835
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: never come true. And so it's really important to just

836
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: kind of like get outsider of yourself and just do

837
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: that thing whatever it is that you're looking to do.

838
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: And but smart, I think it's important to start smaller,

839
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: to think smaller about them, and so you don't get overwhelmed.

840
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also find like that oppressor of the

841
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: oppressive voice never goes away. I've kind of just created

842
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: this vision of a really ugly dog that kind of

843
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: just sits on the side of my desk and just

844
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: like yips at me. And it's like that's anxiety, that's doubt.

845
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: It's all those feelings that just don't go away. I

846
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: feel like and I've really just made peace with it.

847
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what to call it, but it's like

848
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: an ugly dog. We'll call it rufus. It's like a

849
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: teeth missing, and you know, maybe it's like I don't know,

850
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: just like it's like looking mangy, and I'm just like,

851
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: it's a cute, ugly dog that is always going to

852
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: be there. But it's about the other voices in my

853
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: the and voices are so important. That's why you like

854
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: pot whether it's podcast or the people in your life,

855
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: a combination of both, Like who are you surrounding yourself

856
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: with that can help keep the ugly dog that sits

857
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: on your desk or where I like, keep them at

858
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: bay or just remind you that, like they're gonna be there,

859
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: but you don't have to like always listen to that voice.

860
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually had the choice.

861
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 4: Sorry.

862
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: I just came up this author John Acuff, he was

863
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: on my podcast, and he calls it soundtracks like and

864
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: essentially like it's like these loops that play in our head,

865
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: they're from childhood, from you know, our experiences and you can't.

866
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: Like you said, it's not really turning them off, it's

867
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: turning them down, turning up the value on the other

868
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: stations we want to hear more of. It's really what's

869
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: going to help.

870
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.

871
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that's yeah, absolutely a soundtrack

872
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: and that you turn up the volume on what you

873
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: what is positive and what serves you. And I don't know,

874
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Speaker 1: stop waiting for a time when doubt goes away.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: Also so I cause even sometimes I get caught in

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Speaker 3: these loops like I'm just like not in a good mood,

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Speaker 3: and I just know also it will pass, because there

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Speaker 3: are times when I'm really in a good mood, like where.

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Speaker 2: I feel like wow, like the world is just.

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Speaker 3: Like my oyster literally. But so when I'm in like

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Speaker 3: that space of like feeling a little down or sad

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Speaker 3: or just whatever, languishing in what this reality is for us,

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Speaker 3: I just remember too that it's temporary and like the

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Speaker 3: good feeling is also there on the other side, like

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Speaker 3: there is this and I don't have to stay here,

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Speaker 3: like it's.

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Speaker 2: Part of the process.

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Speaker 3: It's part of my day, it's part of my reality,

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Speaker 3: but it's not where I stay because I remember the

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Speaker 3: moments which can happen it like literally like a second

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Speaker 3: away or day away where the whole like it's like wow, like,

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Speaker 3: it's like almost like I feel the energy of the world,

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Speaker 3: of the universe of God like and that is kind

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Speaker 3: of what I try to remember in those times of

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Speaker 3: doubt or despair, that this too shall pass.

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Speaker 4: Amen.

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Speaker 1: I think that is like my entire journey in therapy

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Speaker 1: the past couple of years has been wrapped up in

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Speaker 1: that mantra of this is temporary. It is a temporary

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Speaker 1: feeling that will go away. Oh yeah, thank you so much, Jamila.

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Speaker 1: I wish we have more time, but you are busy.

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Speaker 1: Af congratulations on the book. I know that this is

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Speaker 1: like sort of a you haven't exactly gone full full

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Speaker 1: public with that, but I can't wait to hear more

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Speaker 1: about it, and good luck writing it. I can only imagine.

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Speaker 1: I hope to be right there beside you very soon.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, talking about my vision board, there's just like

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Speaker 1: one picture on it.

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Speaker 4: It's a book.

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Speaker 1: But no, I'm just so proud of you on your

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Speaker 1: journey and thank you for being so transparent about the

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Speaker 1: struggle it. I feel so you know, even with all

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Speaker 1: the people that I talked to on a daily basis,

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Speaker 1: women I'm coaching and stuff. It still feels really good

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Speaker 1: to sit across from a fellow mama who's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my plans are completely gone to pot and I'm just

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Speaker 1: figuring it out too. So thank you for making me

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Speaker 1: feel seen today. I really appreciate it, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, Mandy.

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Speaker 3: And again it's been an honor to come and share

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Speaker 3: and talk with the fam, with the Brown and Ambition family.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for having me again.

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Speaker 1: And remember y'all check out Jamila's podcast Journey to Launch.

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Speaker 1: Go to Journey to Launch dot com your gorgeous website.

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Speaker 1: Where what else do you have? What else do you

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Speaker 1: want to plug? Anything else?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, what else?

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Speaker 3: So Journey to Launch dot com and on my socials

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Speaker 3: on Journey to Launch on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. And

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Speaker 3: so the podcast that I have also talks about money,

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Speaker 3: financial independence, retiring early, but not all about that, right,

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Speaker 3: It's just about like, how do you enjoy this journey

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Speaker 3: to financial freedom? And so if you want to get

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Speaker 3: like a jump start guide on that, like the best

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Speaker 3: episode is to listen to the most downloaded my five

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Speaker 3: Stages of financial independence that you have to travel through.

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Speaker 3: You can get the jump Start guide is at journeys

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Speaker 3: launch dot com slash jumpstarts. That way you can get

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Speaker 3: all the goodies and it's free.

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Speaker 1: I love it all right, dal Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Happy twenty twenty two. Good luck with whatever

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Speaker 1: the day brings. And thank your daughter on my behalf

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Speaker 1: for being a very good girl for mama.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I will thank you Andy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you