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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for dake edo steak?

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woom? And Dan and Tye, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the solid verbal Boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 1: ty Hildebrandt. That fine gentleman over there, the one, the only, always,

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Speaker 1: the incomparable. Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how was your week seven?

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Speaker 2: It was good? It was good. I snacked a little

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Speaker 2: in the morning. But mostly I'm just here to complain

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Speaker 2: about referees for an hour and a half. Is that

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Speaker 2: what people want from us? Is that what people actually

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Speaker 2: want from the college football conversation, to complain about referees

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Speaker 2: and say this is the discussion that must be had.

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Speaker 1: I say no, It is the one unifying thread among

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Speaker 1: all all things college football. Nobody likes the freeing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's just move past it. Right if we

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Speaker 2: can all agree on that, Right, if that's like our

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Speaker 2: when you're crossing things out and carrying for is I

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Speaker 2: don't understand new math yet. But if that's the common denominator,

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Speaker 2: if we can all agree on that, let's just slash

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Speaker 2: it out and talk about the actual football at hand.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about an amazing Week seven of college football

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Speaker 1: lived up to the billing. You know, we tried to

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Speaker 1: This is just college football, the essence of college football really,

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Speaker 1: what makes it special and important to us and fun

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Speaker 1: to talk about as often as we do. The new

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Speaker 1: Verballer Top ten pole dropped earlier today as really nine

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Speaker 1: at Forballers dot com if you are ever so inclined. Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan moving up to three, Tennessee jumping all

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Speaker 1: lot to get into today, Dan, what were your main takeaways?

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like we got to start there.

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Speaker 1: There's just so much that happened in week seven. It's

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Speaker 2: Which some might argue I could only go up from

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Speaker 2: We see flaws, we see depth tested, we see the

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Speaker 2: And this isn't from a wagering perspective, and it's not

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Speaker 1: I am too. And look, how often have we done

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Speaker 3: Just calling in because we have a beautiful college football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: This is Alison from North Carolina. Sorry, this is phil

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Speaker 1: Preferred us to serve up your car potted a new Lions.

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Speaker 3: Hey time, it's your friend here at GCU.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're up to these days, but

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Speaker 3: We're gonna need to come up with a new bowl

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Speaker 1: The Broadway Musical. It's been a little too b Octobery

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Speaker 1: and Austin this week to win your clunker, soakm Baby.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Colorado has won Go Bucks.

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Speaker 1: The Florida Gators. We have a middle school defense. Didn't

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Speaker 1: Syracuse, undefeated, sarahcuse, good parenting, good parents, Buddy, great batch

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Speaker 1: forty nine? Dan? This game had everything you could want

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Speaker 2: The beginning? We can start at the beginning. Tennessee without

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Speaker 2: He looked like the more confident quarterback going downfield, trusting

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Speaker 2: Refereeing affects moments, but not necessarily full game outcomes. Everybody

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Speaker 1: They lost by twenty four. It felt a hell of

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Speaker 2: I did my best, right, Sometimes you just you try

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Speaker 2: Penn State can't be comparable teams, like in terms of

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Speaker 2: They have good players. They have players. They consistently develop

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Speaker 1: It's like a parent count in little league or something

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Speaker 2: I also think that those like cross field throws that

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Speaker 1: Well, this was not a great conversation Penn State. Penn

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Speaker 1: I will believe it when I see it with James Franklin,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like now would be the move to

436
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Speaker 1: do that. Michigan on by next week. Penn State, meanwhile,

437
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: this is like the first of their big three game

438
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: stretch that was going to define their season for us,

439
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: the make or break streak of Michigan Minnesota next week,

440
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: which is a different game now with Tanner Morgan and

441
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: his status up in the air, and of course Ohio

442
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: State the week thereafter. So we will talk more about

443
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: these teams for sure moving forward, But right now, man

444
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: Michigan just riding luxury on the underthink express Dan.

445
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be very careful still though with Drew Aller,

446
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: I know we're spending more time on the loser in

447
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: this game than the victor. But it can be pretty

448
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: harmful to put a quarterback before he's ready in a

449
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: Penn State offense of this caliber, right you don't want

450
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: to affect him emotionally, spiritually, physically in that way before

451
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: he's ready. So yeah, we'll say where are we going next?

452
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Speaker 1: TCU forty three Oklahoma State forty double ot SO posts

453
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: jump out to a twenty four to seven lead in

454
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Speaker 1: the second quarter. From that point forward, they only managed

455
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: two field goals final forty minutes, two field goals.

456
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: Incredible kicker. Oklahoma Sate very much has an incredible kick kicker.

457
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: But you need more, Yeah, you need more.

458
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: And Mike Gundy said in the post game right we

459
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: were reading the comments as they were coming through on

460
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: discord about Mike Gundy's going to get conservative here. It's

461
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: a thing that he does. It happens with Oklahoma State.

462
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: He called it out. He's like, we weren't trying to

463
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: be conservative, but it did end up feeling that way,

464
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: as TCU really held him down and eventually was able

465
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Speaker 1: to rally and win. I think TCU's defense deserves a

466
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: lot of credit here. You know, you look at the scoreboard,

467
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't jump out at you as any kind of

468
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: defensive master class, but right the corners really took away

469
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: the outside passing game. They neutralized Braden Johnson and Bryce

470
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: and Green. They also did a really good job playing

471
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Speaker 1: the run. They held the pokes till like three and

472
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: a half a carry, so they were able to take

473
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Speaker 1: away big chunks of that offense. And you know, we

474
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Speaker 1: just continue to see this exciting trend at TCU, which is,

475
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: let's get the ball to our best players. Let's find

476
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: a way to do let's do more of that that

477
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: they have not done for years on end. Now, let's

478
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: get the ball to Quintin Johnston, who had another monster

479
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: game for the second straight week. Let's put Max Duggan

480
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: in positions to win. Let's hand the ball off in

481
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: proper situations where we can get hard yards. Again, we

482
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: talk a lot about underthink express it just seems like

483
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: TCU is getting the ball to the right guys at

484
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: the right time, and obviously it helps when you play

485
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: some defense here in a big moment.

486
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that. I don't know exactly how it's defined,

487
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: if it's the three two six or three three five

488
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: that it's I think the Tulsa coordinator Joe Gillespie was

489
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: the guy who Sonny Dike's hired. But obviously the early

490
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: returns are very promising. It can be a very confusing

491
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: defense to play against. We saw Spencer Sanders throw I

492
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: would say a pick at an inopportune time, to say

493
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: the least, but he still had a pretty decent game.

494
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: I know he came into the game. There were stories

495
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: about how he was a little bit shaken up or

496
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: beat up ahead of the tea game. But honestly, you

497
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: jump out to that kind of lead, the expectation is

498
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: that you keep evolving, you keep scoring, and we know

499
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: that even last year it was Oklahoma State starting off

500
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: slow and then really pouring it on, especially on defense

501
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: as they figured out teams. It seems that's sort of

502
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: going the opposite direction right now with Oklahoma State, with

503
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: seeing how teams sometimes have been able to come back

504
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: this year. I think the story is TCU. The story

505
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: is TCU with Max Dug and not winning that job.

506
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm harping on that, but finding Quinn Johnson

507
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: trusting Kendre Miller and not trying to sort of outplay

508
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: himself right, happy to take the open crossing route, happy

509
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: to take the check down, happy to execute the play

510
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: as scripted and not you know, improvised too much. And

511
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: TCU stayed patient. They crawled back into this game, especially

512
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: on their home field. It was a cool scene to

513
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: win the game in ot I know there was some

514
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: question about, you know, should have should Oklahoma State have

515
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: gone for two when they had the opportunity to put

516
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: the game away. They haven't been good in the red

517
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: zone this year. Weirdly enough, even with the experience of

518
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: Spencer Sanders and his ability as a playmaker, they have

519
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: not been a specially dependable in the red zone in

520
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: terms of turning you know, the field position into touchdowns.

521
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 2: So that is a decision. I guess we can talk

522
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: about another time. I know you like to harp on

523
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: that sometimes when teams have that opportunity, I'll a Brian Harson.

524
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: But Oklahoma State had done enough on offense where you're like,

525
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 2: all right, let's see what happens here, But they get

526
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: the brutal holding penalty and overtime, and you know, there's

527
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: just there are a lot of ways to lose a

528
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: game in overtime, and it's sort of make or break

529
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: with that two yard conversion opportunity, the two pointer. So

530
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: I think the story here is TCU as they remain

531
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: against not all odds, but against what I saw as

532
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: an undefeated team in mid October after last year. So

533
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: I just I come away very very impressed with the Frogs.

534
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: A dream start to the Sunny Dyke's era six and zero,

535
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: the only undefeated team left right in the Big twelve,

536
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I believe, so incredible. Let's go over to Utah USC

537
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: the nightcap. Who oh baby, forty three to forty two

538
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: is your final. Utah took the lead for the very

539
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: first time with forty eight seconds left in the game.

540
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Cam Rising darted his way into the end zone and

541
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: then did it again to get a two point conversion.

542
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham putting his money where his mouth is and

543
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: saying we're going for two in the win at home.

544
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Otherwise this game felt dead even this is a game

545
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: to me that I looked at the score afterwards and

546
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: I went back and watched this morning. It felt dead

547
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: even to me. Even the stats look relatively even. The

548
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: big question that we have been asking about Utah, and

549
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I think the big concern, especially in a game like this,

550
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: is round playmaking. We were the gravitational players. Frank Keithy's out.

551
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: What are they going to do other than cam rising

552
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: to find a way to put points in the board,

553
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: to score, to go pound for pound with the team

554
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: like USC. Allow me to present Dalton kinate Please do

555
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: they just I don't know if they just forged this

556
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: guy out of Mount Doom or where he came from,

557
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: but holy crap, sixteen catches, two hundred and thirty four

558
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, the big six to four tight

559
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: end out of Nevada, the state, not the college. He

560
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: was uncoverable for a pretty big swath of this game.

561
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: On the USC side, they just had no answer for him.

562
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: A lot of offense here, as you might expect from

563
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: looking at the score, Caleb Williams remains incredible. I don't

564
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: know if you saw that one play down at his

565
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: old goal line where he's kind of Oh, I thought

566
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: that was a surefire safety and somehow he wriggles his

567
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: way out of it and you know, runs for a

568
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: first down.

569
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's in credit. Hold in there.

570
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: I'd have been a hold. That might have been a

571
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: little bit of behold, but nonetheless, nonetheless an incredible individual

572
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: effort from Caleb Williams, and we continue to see that

573
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: as his game evolves. The Utah offense with Cam rising

574
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: also evolved in its own way and got better. I

575
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: think is the game more on so this was really

576
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: a case of early on it feeling like USC had

577
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the advantage, but as the game progressed, it just felt

578
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: like Utah was putting things together more and more often,

579
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: and eventually they get the dub here. Like I said,

580
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: they didn't grab the lead until very late in this one,

581
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: and I admire going for two you know where I stand,

582
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: and going for two when he got the chance to.

583
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: I totally agree, especially at home in that moment, with

584
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: the energy, with the juice behind the utes at that moment,

585
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: this game was incredible. This game was incredible. I think

586
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: as terrific as Dalton Kincaid was the ability, the high

587
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: level ability of Caleb Williams when he is truly feeling

588
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: himself is sensational TV. I don't know how to describe

589
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: the Caleb Williams experience because we've only had a handful

590
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: of players like him ever in the sport. And so, yes,

591
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: he has an incredible mind at head coach offense. Yes

592
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: he has Mario Williams and Jordan Addison and a season

593
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: running back in Travis Dye who was getting anything and

594
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: everything everybody was on this USC offense early on. At

595
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: one point they were fourteen twenty one seven at like

596
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 2: thirteen yards per play. Hard to win a game allowing

597
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: thirteen yards per play. The problem with USC, obviously is

598
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: their own defense's ability to get stops, especially allowing what

599
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: they did on the ground at times, allowing Dalton Kink.

600
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: They could not figure out any sort of combination of

601
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: safeties or linebackers or corners or whatever to throw at

602
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: or in front of, or draped on Dalton Kink.

603
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Now they had no answer for him none.

604
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: Cam Rising was great. Cam Rising, especially late, making the plays,

605
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: calling his own number or calling his number whatever. Look,

606
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: there were some the referee in this game was atrocious.

607
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: It was from I mean, you can say both ways,

608
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: but like USC, it was a pretty brutal I think

609
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: it was roughing the passer that was called targeting, but

610
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: the targeting was brought back that extended a Utah drive.

611
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: It was horrific. It was a very bad call, and

612
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Pack twelve refs are to me clearly the worst in

613
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: the sport. But everybody thinks their own conferences refs are

614
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: the worst. I get that too. It was bad. The

615
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: weird situation at the end. I don't think I knew

616
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: that rule with the interception at the end, right that

617
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: you can just even if your team is penalized, you

618
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: can take swaths of time off of the clock. After

619
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: your team interferes with a pass and you decide to

620
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: run it back, all of those seconds count. But weirdly

621
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: seconds were re added because of an inadvertent whistle that

622
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: happened apparently hypothetically in the middle of that play that

623
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: gave USC a few extra seconds. But you know, Utah

624
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: stiffened up and closed out the game. Just it was

625
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: so a rhythmic at times because of all of the flags.

626
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: It was not an especially fun watch outside of the

627
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: actual football because it was just so start and stop

628
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: and reviews and referees huddling up to discuss yet another penalty,

629
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: and it was that element of it was a bummer.

630
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know how you come away from this

631
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: game anything but impressed with what USC ceiling is on offense,

632
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: what Utah's ability to fight back look like Utah zone

633
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: or excuse me, USC zone deficiencies on defense. Just not

634
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: able to get stops when they needed them, especially in

635
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: the red zone, other than that forced fumble, which of

636
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: course they were able to do. Yeah, of course, of

637
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: course they were able to get a crucial fumble in

638
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: the red zone. I said it before the game, and

639
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stand by it right now. Into the game,

640
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: I said, I think USC is better. I think they're

641
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: a better team. I think we're going to think that

642
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: they are a better team after the season. But I

643
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: think Utah wins. And that was on display. You know,

644
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm a blind squirrel, you know, get another every once

645
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: in a while. I just it was such good TV,

646
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: despite the a rhythmic nature of the game, and to

647
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: see Caleb Williams choked up, to see the Utah players

648
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: choked up, of course, wearing their fallen teammates on their helmets,

649
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: really cool helmets. A lot of emotion in this game

650
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: and sort of what the sport is all about. That's

651
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: sort of the heavyweight brawl in the middle of the night.

652
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: No matter what Fox tries to do with putting games

653
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: on at seven am, it's a much better experience, it's

654
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: a much better product with these big moments under the lights.

655
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, crazy fun watch, crazy fun watch.

656
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I think you nailed it with USC. USC by the way,

657
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: just looking ahead a little bit here, not too much

658
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: of the cart before the horse, but Arizona, cal Colorado,

659
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: and then to close out at season, Ucla and Notre Dame.

660
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: Ucla is tough.

661
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Ucla is tough, and I suppose they could lose that one.

662
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: They're not losing to this version of Notre Dame.

663
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: They've been doing that recently. I understand CLA.

664
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that they're not losing to this version

665
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame. And I don't think they're losing to

666
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: any of the others. So worst case scenario for USC.

667
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm feeling tended too, You feel intended to wor scenario. Okay,

668
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: let's go around college football. Let's cover some of the

669
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: other conference action. We had a bunch of teams on

670
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: by this week. Yep, Clemson thirty four, Florida State twenty eight.

671
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: We had sarahcuse perhaps as you inferred from the call

672
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: implied from the call inferred six and zero, beating NC

673
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: State by a twenty four to nine margin. North Carolina.

674
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Oh my god, North Carolina beats Duke thirty eight,

675
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: thirty five. Miami wins twenty to fourteen over Virginia Tech.

676
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: So the Clemson game, this one was thirty four fourteen

677
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: start of the fourth quarter. Florida State gave itself a

678
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: chance at it on sidekick with about two minutes left.

679
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: I thought they had the right idea trying to be

680
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: aggressive in this game. They went forward and fourth down

681
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, only got it once, but you know,

682
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough to overcome DJU, who I thought looked

683
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: pretty solid, didn't have any I thought it was good. Yeah,

684
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: it didn't have like a great stat line with like

685
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: four hundred yards passing, but was very efficient, looked good

686
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: doing So. This is also the kind of game I've

687
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: been waiting for out of will Shipley, who had something

688
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: like two hundred and forty yards somewhere thereabouts in all

689
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: purpose yardage. Really showcase turn game yep. Yeah, what he

690
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: brings to the equation here for Clemson. So I thought,

691
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: all around, a really really solid effort from the Tigers,

692
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: despite the fact that Florida State sort of made a

693
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: late run at this.

694
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's fits and starts for Florida State, right,

695
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: They open up strong, they go up what fourteen to

696
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: seven in this game. Yeah, and they were running the

697
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: ball really well. Trey Benson ran really hard. The Oregon

698
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: transfer Johnny Wilson made plays. It didn't also struggle that

699
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: moments as well. I thought Jordan Travis did a good

700
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: job by and large, did a good job against a

701
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: tough Clemson defense. The big deal was that it was

702
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: just like an explosive stretch for Clemson. You know, Dabbo

703
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: talks about the middle eight, right, the four minutes before

704
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: and after halftime, and between the fumble and the field

705
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: goal and the touchdown halftime, Florida State does nothing, Clemson

706
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: scores again, and then like suddenly, a tight back and

707
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: forth game gets quickly out of hand, or at least

708
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: in that moment, out of hand. And so it's that

709
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: explosive stretch that Clemson is getting back to, sort of

710
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: like what you did before playing pickleball this weekend. TI

711
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: that explosive stretch that's needed.

712
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm sore as hell. I'm sore as hell. I played

713
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: with a group of seniors. I'm sore as hell. Podcasting

714
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: did not prepare me accordingly. Continue, No, but this is

715
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: this is what good teams do. It's especially what good

716
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: teams do when they're able to find new players that

717
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: are able to shine. You know, Clemson's turning to the

718
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: tight end position. Of course more Davis Allen is the

719
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: guy who had that sort of leaky sideline catch. Was great.

720
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: DJ Redditt nailed them touchdown. Will Ship was bursting through.

721
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: It was great. It was everything that you want from

722
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: a Clemson team that doesn't necessarily have the offensive line

723
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: at all times, that doesn't necessarily have the gravitational receivers,

724
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily have the secondary. You know that there

725
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: isn't a clear Isaiah Simmons type roaming around this Clemson defense,

726
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: and yet they're still winning these big games in rival

727
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: with pseudo rivalry spots on the road. Great for Clemson.

728
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: Clemson's next game is against Syracuse. Syracuse is six. Where

729
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: is that the game is in Clemson? Okay, so Syracuse

730
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: won at home JMA Wireless Dome where teams go to die.

731
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: No Devin Leary, it was announced in the pregame, is

732
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the year, which is a

733
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: huge freaking bummer.

734
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: Yep for NC State.

735
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna have surgery. He's done, which means we're going

736
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: to see Jack Chambers. I'm assuming the rest of the way.

737
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was that bad. I thought he

738
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: was fine in this game. He's not Devin Leary though,

739
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: He's not Devin Leary. But this is an offense that

740
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: even struggled with Devin Leary, So Devin Leary might not

741
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: be Devin Larry right exactly. So it's you know, you

742
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: got to have to take it for what it is.

743
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: The Syracuse defense remains pretty solid. I'm not going to

744
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: act like they've played the best offenses in the world,

745
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: but the defense has only given up more than twenty

746
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: points once so far the season. The offense is playing

747
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: well enough to win these games. There is no reason

748
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the way that we can't be that

749
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be excited about Syracuse because we want to

750
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: talk a lot about Kansas and the story that Kansas

751
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: has been We want to talk a lot about, you know,

752
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: any number of other basketball schools, be it Arizona or Duke,

753
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: and what some of those programs have put together. It

754
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: wasn't all that long ago that you and I were

755
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: dunking on Syracuse pretty hard in the preseason. There wasn't

756
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: a lot here to suggest that we have this preseason,

757
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: not this preseason. There was not a whole lot here

758
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: to suggest that this version, this iteration of Syracuse was

759
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: going to start undefeated. But Syracuse undefeated, Dan Syracuse undefeated.

760
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: The schedule has not been crazy challengings. I mean, NC

761
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: State should have been a challenging moment on their schedule,

762
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: but of course Jack Chambers is still a downgrade from

763
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: Devin Leary. Yes say the least. Look, they were able

764
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: to win a weird game against Purdue. We had another

765
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: game yesterday with much to your chagrin and disappointment, Garrett

766
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Trader made plays, made winning plays. Found Aronde gadst Listen,

767
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I have nothing against Garrett Trader. It sounds like you do.

768
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: I have nothing against Garrett Trader, but I do have

769
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: questions about Garrett Strader throwing the football. If you watch

770
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: the full game, you probably also have questions about Garrett Ttrader.

771
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: Of course, some of his decision making when he throws

772
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: a football, that's All'm gonna say.

773
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Undefeated dubs w's tie. That's one of my favorite things

774
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: is coaches or announcers, older announcers especially. The only stat

775
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: that matters is the dub, is the win, wins and

776
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: losses or the final score. Okay, yeah, a Trader makes

777
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: winning plays and makes less than winning plays, and Sean

778
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: Tucker largely makes winning places. And so this team is

779
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: It's a more well rounded team than just Sean Tucker

780
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: and an unorthodox, challenging defense, which is why Syracuse is

781
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: again Bowl eligible and is going to win more games plural,

782
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: even if they don't beat Clemson very quickly.

783
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: On those of the two games that I mentioned, Yes,

784
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: it came down to the wire in the Duke UNC game,

785
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: I had locked up for Duke North Carolina. Yeah, but

786
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina needed a late pass from Drake May to

787
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Antoine Green to get the dub. The only stat that

788
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: matters in this rivalry matchup Drake May. Drake May will

789
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: take North Carolina as far as he is physically able

790
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: to do. Like, that's not English, but I kind of

791
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: don't know what to say about him at this point.

792
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: Like North Carolina is so married to the success at

793
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: this point of Drake May that they will go as

794
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: far as he can take them. The defense is still

795
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: kind of non existent. But Drake May is really freaking good.

796
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: It was kind of a squat pr Saturday. How much

797
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: can you load up on your shoulders to carry your

798
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: team to hopefully winning this game. Whether it was Cam

799
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: Rising and I guess Dalton Kinkaid, whether it was you know,

800
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: Trey Palmer for Nebraska coming up, just sure, whether it

801
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: was and we'll get there, Whether it was Drake May,

802
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: whether it was any of these guys putting up cartoonish numbers,

803
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt being this unbelievable gravitational player putting the basically

804
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: the scoreboard on his back along with the knuckle kick.

805
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: At the end, Drake May doing what he did, and

806
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard attempting to win this game doing what he

807
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: did both with his feet and with his arm. I

808
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: mean he arguably Riley Leonard got more exercise than anybody

809
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: in the sport yesterday. Duke did basically everything they could

810
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: do right. This is the season is an overwhelming success.

811
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: For Mike Elko and the Blue Devils. It just means

812
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 2: a little bit less when you're not able to close

813
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: out North Carolina the way you probably should have. But

814
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: good for tar Hills, good for Drake May Still like

815
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: any given quarter, you could have any given team from

816
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 2: this North Carolina team.

817
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: The only other thing I'm gonna say here, yeah, Virginia

818
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: Tech two fourth quarter touchdowns to erase a easy cover,

819
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: seemingly easy cover for the Miami Hurricanes, who were favored

820
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: by about I think seven and a half.

821
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: What was the quarter scoring breakdown from Miami? Was it

822
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: like progressively getting is like ten seven, three zero? And

823
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: then Mario Crista ball after the game. Again, I am

824
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: a bias narrator here, but I have heard these speeches before,

825
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: just talking about all of the injured players. Guess what,

826
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: every year there was a bajillion injuries for Oregon. Get

827
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: used to this, Miami, get used to not covering wins

828
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: that feel like losses. But you're like, well, these younger

829
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: players started showing out and then they're gonna get hurt.

830
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: So that's the Mario Crista ball experience as I understood

831
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: it to be as an Oregon fan and for better

832
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: or worse, get that win, Get that win, Miami, and you.

833
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: Did over In the Big Twelve, we had Oklahoma fifth two,

834
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Kansas forty two. We had Texas twenty four, Iowa State

835
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: twenty one. We had West Virginia knocking off Baylor on

836
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night by a forty three to forty score. So

837
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of really close games here, a bunch of.

838
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Incredible weekend week seven for the Big twelve.

839
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely so on the Oklahoma side, they had seven hundred

840
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: yards of offense. You did have this. I did have this.

841
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have seven hundred yards of offense.

842
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: No.

843
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: I knew Kansas's defense was a little suspect, but seven

844
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards is even a bit much for them. Four

845
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: hundred and three yards on the golden arm of Dylan Gabriel,

846
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: who was back and healthy and looked pretty good.

847
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

848
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: The Oklahoma offense, as you might expect, meant, meant minimal

849
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: resistance here. It felt like every time I looked at

850
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: the TV, somebody was streaking down the field. My sense

851
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: here is that it could have been worse for Kansas

852
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: because Oklahoma turned it over three times. There was also

853
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: a goal line stand. I believe at the end of

854
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: the first half. So Oklahoma, at least offensively was really

855
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: humming here. They had enough stops on defense to get separation.

856
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Not like a great defensive showing by any stretch. Jason

857
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: Bean did get the start for Kansas because of that

858
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels injury. I don't think Jalen Daniels being there

859
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: would have made a whole world of difference. But a

860
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: lot of points not an unexpected result here. Kansas, by

861
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: the way, almost did the back door cover thing here.

862
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: Yes they did. They lost by ten in a nine points.

863
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: They tried, ever so ever so hard uh to make

864
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: this one interesting for the betters out there, but Oklahoma

865
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: wins by ten. I want to get your take on

866
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: the Texas game, okay, quickly.

867
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: With the Oklahoma game. Yeah, what a difference a quarterback makes. Yeah,

868
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel CJ Coldon. If you didn't see the interception

869
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: of the air, maybe you should look that up, because

870
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: he leapt up about forty seven feet in the air

871
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: and tipped the ball to himself as he came down

872
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: and snagged it. That was an incredible moment for Oklahoma.

873
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: And yes, you're right, I think the seven hundred yard thing.

874
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: I think leaving the offense in as long as they did,

875
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: I think throwing it for as long as they did.

876
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: I think it was to send a message, whether it's

877
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: to send a message the Big twelve, whether it's to

878
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: send a message internally, whether it's to send a message

879
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: to recruits. It's that Oklahoma's not going away into this cold,

880
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: dark knight.

881
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: They needed the net crack. That's what they needed.

882
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: They needed the neck there it is. They needed the

883
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: net crack. And I don't take anything away from Kansas,

884
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: even though they wouldn't have won this game with Jayalen

885
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: Daniels excuse me, really really great performance from Oklahoma and

886
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: I sorely needed one at that Okay, Texas Iowa State.

887
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: This game was a lot closer than we thought. At

888
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: one point in the week, Texas was a seventeen point favorite. Yeah,

889
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: and I think we both felt pretty good about Texas

890
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: just Jenneral.

891
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: Toss myself into it and I hate that I did it. Yeah.

892
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: The vibe here in this game is that Texas had

893
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: plenty of chances to take command and just couldn't do it.

894
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: They couldn't do it. They had their chances. If you're

895
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: a Texas fan, You're probably thankful for Bijon Robinson, who

896
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: is so damn good, and you know, like Jalen Ford's

897
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: early interception was a big play. There were big plays

898
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: here for Texas outside of b Jon Robinson, but he

899
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: was kind of the steadying force in a game that

900
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: again felt like it was there for them to really

901
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: grab it and take command of it and put on

902
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: ice early and they just couldn't do it.

903
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's sort of the Iowa State is

904
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: m O though, is to sort of sit on the

905
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: ball a little bit, sort of get teams out of

906
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: a rhythm, take advantage of mistakes. Ultimately comes down to

907
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: moments late. And I always say, actually, I've been sort

908
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: of rough on the Clones this year for playing pickleball

909
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: and not being able to sort of generate bigger plays,

910
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: especially downfield and limit themselves. But they succeeded downfield with

911
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson, Jalen Nole made plays taking advantage of opportunities,

912
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: of course, and Texas, You're right, they were unable to

913
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: from the start, from the onset of this game. We're

914
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: not able to take advantage whether it was field position,

915
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: whether it was third and shorts whatever. Texas left a

916
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: lot out on the field. But man, that drop drop Hutchinson.

917
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: Oh, that was so painful to watch.

918
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: Real painful. And then the fumble and I know Iowa

919
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: State fans are upset thinking it was targeting, but I

920
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: don't believe it was targeting. It's just it's a tough

921
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: way to lose, to say the least. But good for

922
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: Texas for surviving and winning a clunker. This was the

923
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: exact kind of game, by the way that Tom Herman

924
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: would have lost that Mac later stage, Mac Brown or

925
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: obviously Charlie Strong would have lost. So a win is

926
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 2: better than a loss. It from the beginning it felt flat.

927
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: It did right.

928
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: There was so much energy with the Red River game,

929
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: and there was something that just felt flat about this game.

930
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: They're like, ooh, this feels like a let down win

931
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: for the Clones, and it wasn't. So that's that's a

932
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: double win.

933
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and real quick, just to put a bow on

934
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: the big twelve. The West Virginia Baylor game was kind

935
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: of nuts on Thursday night, just like it was a

936
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: ton of big plays, a ton of big not a

937
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: lot of defaymakers, no, but a lot of big plays

938
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: in this game. I put together a recap video right afterwards,

939
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: and my thought was that West Virginia just beat itself

940
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: a little less. They beat themselves a little bit less.

941
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: That was what gave them the margin. Here monster game.

942
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: For Gavin Holmes, your potentially problematic influencer, you either.

943
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Can find them just a name, not any actions from

944
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Gavin Holmes. Just his name sounds like a potentially problematic influencer.

945
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: Like Shaping goes down hurt. Yeah, no, CJ. Donaldson because

946
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: of his injury, sustained earlier in the season, but Tony

947
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 2: Mathis steps up. It was what Caden Prather made play

948
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: like it was. It was a really fun back and forth.

949
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't think Baylor wins in Morgantown. That's like a thing.

950
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: They just don't. So West Virginia slow start, but three

951
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: and three very sneaky upset potential in the big twelve sec.

952
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: Kentucky beats Mississippi State twenty seven to seventeen. All miss

953
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: runs all over Auburn forty eight to thirty four Arkansas

954
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: for fifty two. Excuse me BYU thirty five?

955
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: You had that?

956
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: You did have that, I did have the hogs.

957
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: Here raheem Sanders.

958
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, LSU forty five, Florida thirty five, Georgia fifty five

959
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: to zip over a Vandy. Let's talk about the Mississippi

960
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: State game, Dan, Yes, Mississippi State offense was hummin along

961
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: before this game. What we saw last night, I believe

962
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: is what the Ghostbusters would refer to as a total

963
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: protonic reversal. I don't Kentucky. Kentucky clamp down and Mississippi

964
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: State did its usual disappearing act. And I think that's

965
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: what drives me crazy about this team because just when

966
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: it feels like you can start to get behind them

967
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: and they start to build some momentum and we start

968
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: talking on this show like they're good, they are good team.

969
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Do not sleep on Mississippi State. Poof you have a

970
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: showing like this. Two hundred and twenty five yards in

971
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: total for the Bulldogs, just three of eleven on third down,

972
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: just twenty two rushing yards. Yeah. So credit the Cat's

973
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: defense for what they did, and credit the offense because

974
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: Will Levis was back. He did play. He made the

975
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: world of a difference here. I thought he looked pretty good.

976
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: Christopher Rodriguez went for one ninety six and two touchdowns.

977
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: On the ground. So yes, the Cats rushing attack, which

978
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: had been problematic early, seems to have leveled off to

979
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: some extent here. I don't know what else to say

980
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: about Misissippi State, but the disappearing act to me is

981
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: just it's frustrating. It's very frustrating.

982
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagined for them it is as well. You look,

983
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: you're right, you credit the Kentucky defense, and the whole

984
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: thing with the Mississippi State offense or the Mike Leach

985
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: air raid is simplicity. It's fine grass throat to grass.

986
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: And what Kentucky was able to do was confused Will

987
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: Rogers to collapse the pocket against Will Rogers, to make

988
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: him captain the overthink express and just holding onto the

989
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: ball a little bit too long. And even against the

990
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: run where MISISIPI Sate's been able to run the ball,

991
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: Kentucky filled the lanes. It was a terrific performance from Kentucky.

992
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the performance of Chris Rodriguez especially needed.

993
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Tavian Robinson not available in this one. He's beat up.

994
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: So in terms of Kentucky's ability to stretch the field,

995
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: and I know Will Levis did make plays downfield painful

996
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: for you as a Penn Stater to watch Will Levis thriving.

997
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: To watch Will Levis thriving.

998
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: No, that ultimately James Franklin made the wrong call. I'm

999
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: going Clifford over Levis because Levis didn't really show this

1000
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: in State College.

1001
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't use Levis like this. Levis like a

1002
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: bowling ball, right, they used him like a t bow. Yeah,

1003
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: if t bow could only run. I mean he was

1004
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: like the bell dozer of sorts for Penn State to

1005
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: draw another old reference from.

1006
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: Him, but to not see it in practice, to not

1007
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: see the potential.

1008
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean they were really into

1009
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: They're still into Sean Clifford. Yeah, I'm hopeful nothing against

1010
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: Sean Clifford, that they'll get past that. But no, I'm

1011
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: happy forll Levis because, Okay, all too often you have

1012
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: these transfers and it doesn't work out. I'm glad for

1013
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: him that it has. And hell, he could be a

1014
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, so good for him.

1015
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah. Also, Mississippi State had my favorite kind

1016
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: of interception, which is the seemingly uninterceptible quick screen of

1017
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: some kind, and they had they just jumped in the

1018
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: lane and guy jumped in the lane on a tunnel

1019
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: screen and brought it all the way back. So I

1020
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: always enjoy that. Obviously those are fun. Not enough, so

1021
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: a nice bounce back moment for Kentucky after losing to

1022
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina with a backup quarterback in that manner.

1023
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Four hundred and forty eight yards on the ground for

1024
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Old Miss. Yeah, I credit Auburn to some to just

1025
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: to this extent. They were down twenty one zip in

1026
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: the first half. They fought back. This was a one

1027
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: score game with about nine minutes left, So they didn't

1028
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: give up. They didn't give up. And if we are

1029
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: trying to read Tea leaves Brian Harson Maale already be

1030
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: gone for all we know, it seems as if the

1031
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: writing is on the wall there. But the team did

1032
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: not give up in a matchup against a good team

1033
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: in Old Miss, And so I at least credit the

1034
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the players for keeping their heads about

1035
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: them and playing this one the full way through. If

1036
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Ole Miss runs like this the rest of the way,

1037
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: that's a real problem for teams.

1038
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: Big if.

1039
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a big if. But that's a real problem.

1040
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 2: Another impressive performance offensively, Yeah, they ran the hell even

1041
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: Jackson dart In on the action and a game well

1042
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: called by Lane Kiffen and future Notre Dame head coach

1043
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: Charlie Weist Junior. So I'm I don't know how you

1044
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: come away anything but impressed with where All Miss is

1045
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: as a program.

1046
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't really have much to add about Arkansas. A

1047
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: ton of points, a ton of stats here for kJ Jefferson,

1048
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Raheem Sanders, Matt Landers, big wide out, had three touchdowns.

1049
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: They look pretty good.

1050
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: Defense still isn't good, but that's okay.

1051
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: It's okay. They are who they are. LSU Florida.

1052
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: This one was fun because I don't root for Florida

1053
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: or LSU. This one was fun for me.

1054
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, why was this fun for you?

1055
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: We got to watch Jalen Daniels look perfect pretty much,

1056
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: and we got to see Anthony Richardson make a play

1057
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 2: in which LSU suggested tackles but didn't actually like. There

1058
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: was just so many bonkers plays in this game that

1059
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: I loved watching the back and forth nature of it.

1060
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: The Florida defense is not good, the LSU special team

1061
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: situation is not good. But Anthony Richard's ceiling is quite entertaining.

1062
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: His floor less entertaining, but with what LSU's receivers kind

1063
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: of finally ascended to in terms of I don't know

1064
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: if it's our expectations or their potential whatever. That was

1065
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: quite fun. This game is always bonkers and weird and

1066
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: always has huge plays, and I just enjoyed watching it.

1067
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: And I don't know who LSU is week to week,

1068
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: but when the LSU can run the ball and mount

1069
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: a complete offense in the manner that they did against Florida,

1070
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: they become a lot more dangerous. And I think I

1071
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: said Jaylen Daniels. I meant to say Jayden and Daniels

1072
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: in my head.

1073
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: It was right. It is confusing that we have a

1074
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: jay Din and jay Lon.

1075
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, two very good quarterbacks at their peak. But yeah,

1076
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels is very good, if not excellent, in this game,

1077
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: especially in the red zone, in a hostile environment, in

1078
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: that pseudo rivalry. So yeah, it makes LSU more interesting.

1079
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they have what A and m

1080
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: Ole miss and Bama left. Who who else is on

1081
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: LSU's schedule. I don't have it in front of me,

1082
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: but oh Arkansas as well, But I think the point stands, right,

1083
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if they can play this kind of offense,

1084
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: this brand of offense that there's a lot to like.

1085
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: Jay Din Daniels did look pretty good in this game.

1086
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: He had sixty total touchdowns, three through the air, three

1087
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: on the ground. LSU's offense as a whole did some

1088
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 2: nice stuff in this matchup. Yeah, and what I mean

1089
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: by that is they sustain drives of seventy five, seventy three,

1090
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: seventy five, eighty three, seventy five, and eighty eight yards.

1091
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: Those are their six touchdown on drives. So this is

1092
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: a program that trying to get this offense hummin now,

1093
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: trying to get this thing going. It seems as if

1094
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: they've maybe figured some stuff out. It helps. At the

1095
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: Florida defense isn't great right now, all that also helps,

1096
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: but still nonetheless nice showing. Yeah, let's start about the

1097
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. Let's let's talk about Stanford sixteen Notre Dame fourteen.

1098
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me settling for this one. Drink a

1099
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: little bit of team.

1100
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: Man first off.

1101
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, book ended by the way Stanford's

1102
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: losing streak book ended by I think the Oregon win

1103
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: last year, in the Notre Dame win this year, Stanford.

1104
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Stanford had lost eleven straight games to FBS teams. They

1105
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: were a seventeen point dog in this game, which we

1106
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: didn't even mention in the previous show because it felt

1107
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 1: a little just weird, like we didn't have time because

1108
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: we had so many other high level matchups to talk about.

1109
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: This one did not rise to that level, even though

1110
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: we have a lot of Notre Dame people that listen,

1111
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: just didn't seem like it was as relevant. Seventeen points

1112
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: spread felt a little meaty to me. I didn't want

1113
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: to bet it. I don't like bet on my own

1114
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: team to begin with, but seventeen points. Vegas was obviously

1115
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: pretty high on on Notre Dame going into this thing.

1116
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: Do we still think that LSU might be interested in

1117
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese asking for a fit?

1118
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: I think they're good.

1119
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: Can we pass around the hat for the plane ticket?

1120
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, just wondering, just maybe put some feelers out

1121
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: if you know anybody in Baton Rouge, like, are you

1122
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: still maybe interested in Tommy rees.

1123
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: It's a tough thing. I mean, you Google speak with

1124
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: more detail about this game, but I think the lasting

1125
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: image is the Stanford players being confused at the end

1126
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: of the game with how to behave after a win

1127
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: on the road. That was the confusing thing against a

1128
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: legit opponent. Notre Dame might not be good, but Notre

1129
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: Dame isn't some of the teams at Stanford.

1130
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: It's not a tomatic can. They're not a tomato can. No,

1131
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Okay, Drew Pine was really bad in

1132
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, he was really bad in this game.

1133
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: He snaps the ball, he looks directly at Michael Mayor.

1134
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: Every play only has eyes for you, Michael Mayor, he

1135
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: will only throw it to Michael Mahyor, or he'll at

1136
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: least look there until he has no the choice to

1137
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: look elsewhere.

1138
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: But that is the offense right now. That is the

1139
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: way they have schemed this offense right now. So we

1140
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: did get to see Tobias Meriwether in this game. He

1141
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: caught a forty one yard touchdown pass on a post.

1142
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: It was great to see him out there. Instantly comes

1143
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: into the game and makes a difference. I don't know

1144
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: why it took this long for him to get some

1145
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: playing time, but whatever, I'm not in practice, what do

1146
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: I know. Here's the thing, though, Pine was not good,

1147
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: but we've known this about him for a while. Now

1148
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: we knew this about him last year.

1149
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: I mean just this year, you flail. He's quietly getting

1150
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: a little better, Like after the North Carolina game, after

1151
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: the BYU game, you started, I started hearing the chirp.

1152
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: Getting better does not imply good, It's fair. Okay, We've

1153
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: known this about Drew Pine for a good long time now.

1154
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the way back in.

1155
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: Spring I was talking about I don't know. I don't

1156
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: really like Drew Pine. I don't like their quarterback situation.

1157
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: If Bucker goes down. Yeah, okay, it is unfair to

1158
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: put this all on Drew Pine.

1159
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: Though.

1160
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: It is unfair to put this all and Drew Pine

1161
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: because Drew Pine is limited and seemingly the coaches who

1162
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: are with him at practice every day also know this,

1163
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: because we know this from watching them one day a week.

1164
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: The fact that they are still putting big chunks of

1165
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: this scheme on his arm seems problematic to me. It

1166
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: seems problematic that you would ask Drew Pine to go

1167
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: out there and win the game. All right, they can't

1168
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: run the ball. I don't know why they can't run

1169
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: the ball. It's still a problem. Maybe they're getting better,

1170
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: Maybe the line is congealing. A little bit more now,

1171
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: to use a fancy word, but it still seems as

1172
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: if a lot of this is on the arm of

1173
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: Drew Pine, and I just don't think that's a good scheme.

1174
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't it's It's not like Brian Kelly left the cupboard.

1175
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Bear guys. They've recruited at a really high level now

1176
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: for the last decade. It's got better the closer we

1177
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: got to Kelly leaving for LSU. There's a lot of

1178
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: talent on this team. So the fact that this offense

1179
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: looks this stagnant, looks this one note is entirely dependent

1180
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: on Michael maher on some level. Look. I get it's

1181
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: a backup, but also it's probably the coaching. There's probably

1182
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: a coaching thing here that needs to be addressed. And

1183
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Tommy Reese, I don't know

1184
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: if it's still Marcus Freeman figuring things out. I don't

1185
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: know who to blame specifically for what we have seen

1186
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: from the Notre Dame offense. But if you are Marcus Freeman,

1187
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: you got to be looking at this saying to yourself,

1188
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: this is on me. If this thing goes down, it's

1189
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: on me. I'm the one that loses the job in

1190
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: a very public, very embarrassing fashion. So I don't know

1191
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: what he has to do to fix this. I would

1192
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: kind of be surprised if we see Tommy Reese back

1193
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: next year given the way things have gone.

1194
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's still a backup quarterback. It's not

1195
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: his faults specifically, it's not his fault.

1196
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: Specifically, but it just does not feel like it's getting

1197
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: much better.

1198
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: Do you think next year that Graham Mertz figures it

1199
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: out for Notre Dame? Well, that was gonna be my question,

1200
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: like who is Illan Morris coming in? Wholan Morris? Who

1201
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: is the transfer?

1202
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: Who is the transfer that Notre Dame can entice to

1203
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: come in to do its lance Ipold bar rescue scenario

1204
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: right where they reinvigorate this offense with a little higher

1205
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: level quarterback play. I'm not convinced Buckner's the guy from

1206
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: the little bit we saw of him. Yeah, and certainly

1207
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: Pine should not be the guy moving forward. So they've

1208
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: got like a year to bridge before they get to CJ. Carr.

1209
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: Maybe CJ. Carr is good. I don't know what he'll

1210
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: do with college.

1211
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: Don't count on that. Don't that line of thinking is

1212
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: so brutal to be like, well, there's a five star

1213
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: who's going to be a freshman in two years, Like,

1214
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: don't do that.

1215
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not counting on it. I'm not counting. I'm

1216
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: just saying that they're going to have some hard questions

1217
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: to address in the wake of all this. They're just

1218
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: not good. Their offense is really bad, and a lot

1219
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: of it might come down to the fact that they

1220
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: have to are Drew Pine. Yeah, but also a lot

1221
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: of it might fall squarely on Tommy Resent Marcus Freeman.

1222
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're getting paid a lot of money to

1223
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: figure out what to do next, and it seems as

1224
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: if they're just doing the same thing over and over again.

1225
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: That's not good enough.

1226
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: What number do you think Connor Bezlac will wear from other.

1227
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: Dame Connor beslacks I gotta transfer again?

1228
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: Is he?

1229
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he could.

1230
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: It's I think. I think. I think Notre Dame is

1231
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: holding a job fair. I think Notre Dame is ready

1232
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: to be like tay Rodemaker, uh like, who's got eligibility

1233
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: and played a good quarter well made Hudson card Miller,

1234
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: moss Ethan Garber's like who has come in in relief

1235
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: and is not going to win a starting job at

1236
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: a relatively big program. Like there's there's there's.

1237
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Some names out there. They're sending some automated messages on LinkedIn. Yeah,

1238
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: they're sending some those just feelers like hey.

1239
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: One act suddenly went to Fildercovic. I'm like, oh, that's

1240
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: our bad sorry Phil. Yeah. Man, Tommy DeVito Notre Dame

1241
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito. No, he's in a good situation. He plays

1242
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: in a pretty good spot. Yeah, man, good win for

1243
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: Stamp sixteen fourteen? What a crap game? Oh yeah, yeah,

1244
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: all right? Oh man, Kate McNamara, no, stop it.

1245
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: Washington beat Arizona. A ton of offense here, Michael Pennis

1246
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: five sixteen through the air, four touchdowns, forty nine to

1247
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: thirty nine. We had Oregon State winning twenty four to

1248
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: ten over Wazoo. In Colorado, Colorado gets his first win

1249
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: twenty to thirteen over cal.

1250
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: Okay pac twelve was a weird we I mean, obviously

1251
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: we talked about usc Utah, but it was a weird

1252
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: experience yesterday. What is going on with cal What is

1253
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: actually happening with the California Golden Bears? I tweeted this

1254
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: out that they haven't even fielded an average offense since

1255
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: Sunny Dyke's left let alone a decent one. Losing to

1256
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: Colorado is embarrassing. Sorry, this version of Colorado, who's already

1257
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: fired their coach, that doesn't have a quarterback, that lost

1258
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: all of its best players, it seems on both sides

1259
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: of the ball to the portal and have been a

1260
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: disaster this year, destined for zero to twelve, and cal

1261
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: finds a way with the crazy drop in the red zone,

1262
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: the crazy catch up from their own guy. I think, Lemon,

1263
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: what an embarrassing turn of events for the California Golden

1264
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: Bears on a day where we were celebrating Bay Area

1265
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: football with Stanford making a comeback into the win column.

1266
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: An embarrassing display of defense in Washington Arizona, but a

1267
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: highly entertaining display of offense. You mentioned Michael Pennock's record

1268
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: setting day for Washington. The receivers on both sides of

1269
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: this game were great. Arizona is still a ways away

1270
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 2: on defense, but apparently Washington continues to be a ways

1271
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: away on defense after that Arizona State loss last week,

1272
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: but they gave us an entertaining game so I'll take

1273
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: it Ucla and Oregon both on buy Oregon State a

1274
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: nice comfortable win. I still think that they have quarterback

1275
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: figured out, but quietly the improved Beaver defense has been

1276
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: a really nice story. Yeah, Washington State really struggled to

1277
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: get anything going on offense. Cameron Ward and a lot

1278
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: of mistakes and had to throw the ball forty fifty times.

1279
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's Wazoo's interesting because you do see the

1280
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: big play potential with Cameron Ward, but they're just too

1281
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: inconsistent otherwise.

1282
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: You know, I agree. But game days going to Eugene

1283
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: for Oregon Ucla, which should be a really nice we

1284
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: Gate toppy, really good out the PAC twelve week eight.

1285
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, close things out with a big ten. Dan illinoy

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: baby who ill fifteenth season doing this podcast. This is

1287
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: by far the earliest that the Drive for six has

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01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: ever been completed. That's true. It's never been completed by

1289
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: mid October never. We've always been having this conversation. So

1290
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: we need a new mark, We need a new name,

1291
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: a literation here, because if you're looking at Illinois, it's

1292
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: gonna throw it out there, the six and one. Right, Yeah,

1293
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: here's what's left on the schedule. I want you to

1294
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: stop me. Stop me when I stop me when I

1295
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: say a team that they're definitely going to lose two. Okay, Nebraska, no,

1296
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 1: Michigan State, no Purdue, no Michigan, Yes, Northwestern No.

1297
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: Ten and two Illinois, Baby, I'm not guaranteeing ten and two.

1298
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean they could lose to Purdue, they could lose

1299
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: to any of those teams. But they could lose any

1300
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: of those teams. Michigan State got a little bit healthier,

1301
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: and we can talk about that in a second, and

1302
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: beat Wisconsin in ot but they are the most annoying

1303
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: kind of team to deal with. This is actually kind

1304
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: of representative of the back half of what Arkansas look like.

1305
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: I want to say, twenty fourteen.

1306
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a pain in the freaking ass every week, yeah,

1307
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: every and the defense is very good. The defense is

1308
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: absolutely legit, and you see them kind of steering into

1309
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: it because they're playing aggressively. They're going forward and forth

1310
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: down a lot, and I think they just have that

1311
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: confidence in their defense, like, great, you get the ball

1312
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: with good field position, try and move it on us.

1313
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: The Illinois fighting freaking a lion. I Yeah, six and one,

1314
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: I love it.

1315
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 2: I love Ryan Walter's twenty twenty three Colorado head coach.

1316
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: That's not crazy. It probably will be. Yeah, if they

1317
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: keep doing this, he's going to get legit. Interest. He's young,

1318
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: he runs an exciting brand of football on defense and

1319
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: has helped him. It has been the reason why they've

1320
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: turned it around so quickly under Brepilama Chase Brown. Maybe

1321
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: it's the drive to fifty carries in a single game

1322
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: for Chase Brown forty one in this game, forty one

1323
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: Minnesota on both sides of the ball. I mean, look,

1324
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: they're beat up on offense, but it really is now

1325
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 2: just like Moe Ibrahim and like the drop seas right,

1326
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 2: it's just there's not much at receiver there. The offensive

1327
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: line is pretty disappointing. The defense can't get anything right,

1328
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: it seems. Tommy DeVito, as much as you know, he

1329
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: has struggled at times both at Syracuse and Illinois. Pretty good, Yeah,

1330
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: he was, and I yesterday led quality drive.

1331
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: He looked really good yesterday.

1332
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for him, Minnesota came back a little bit.

1333
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: He then threw a haymaker right back at that. Like

1334
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: led a nice drive. So I don't recommend punching the

1335
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: opposing team starting quarterback like Illinois, I think, incidentally did

1336
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: I think they were punching for a fumble, But that

1337
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: led to a pretty disappointing moment in which Tanner Morgan

1338
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: was injured. Disappointing in that I don't want Tanner Morgan

1339
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: to be hurt and so we don't know what his

1340
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: future looks like. But even before then, the Minnesota offense

1341
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: was not really doing anything well consistently.

1342
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: Now they struggled for most of the game against again

1343
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: a really good Alione defense.

1344
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, another another week, another w for for Illinois.

1345
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: Maryland knocked off Indiana thirty eight thirty three. Tala got hurt, Yeah,

1346
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: got carted off in the fourth quarter with some sort

1347
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: of knee thing. Billy Edwards Junior maybe get used to

1348
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: saying that name. He came in, went zero for three passing,

1349
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: but had fifty three big yards on the ground and

1350
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: the touchdown that put this one out of reach with

1351
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: about two minutes left. So Maryland now five and two. Yeah,

1352
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: hopefully teleas but yeah, didn't look promising that injury five

1353
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: and two for Maryland thirty eight to thirty three. They

1354
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: went on the road Michigan State thirty four Wisconsin twenty eight,

1355
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: Dan doubt. Yes, I locked up Wisconsin. I thought I

1356
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: had this one. I did not have this one.

1357
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 2: You did not have it.

1358
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: I did not have this one. Brayln Allen turned it

1359
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: over in overtime that led to a big Michigan stay

1360
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: win here. I don't know how else to characterize it.

1361
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: They needed a win very badly. They get it in overtime.

1362
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: It would not be fair to put this all in

1363
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: Braileen Allen because of that turnover, because otherwise he had

1364
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: a pretty good game. He was like the reliable part

1365
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: of this Wisconsin offense. As somebody in our verball or

1366
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: discord aptly pointed out, the new coaching staff may not

1367
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: yet have solved the Graham Merch problem. No, it's it's

1368
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: not the kind of thing that you cure overnight with

1369
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: a couple of pills and a new coach gat.

1370
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: A new coaching staff, to be clear, just I coach

1371
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: who is now also the interm.

1372
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: That's correct, that's correct, Thank you for clarifying. So it

1373
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: could just be that Northwestern is that bad that we

1374
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: got that kind of showing last week, the two ninety

1375
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: nine to five touchdown game that I will refer to

1376
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: forever more from Graham Mertz. But look, I credit Michigan State.

1377
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to harp too much on Wisconsin. Michigan

1378
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: State fought this game the full way through. They were

1379
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: able to capitalize in the end and get the winning overtime.

1380
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: So they needed a big win here for mel Tucker

1381
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: because it did give the impression that things were coming

1382
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: off the swivel a bit.

1383
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 2: In East Lansing, I thought Peyton Thorne looked a lot sharper. Yes,

1384
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: connection with receivers was a lot sharper, obviously going to

1385
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: Jayden Reid in big moments. They were healthier on defense.

1386
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: They were able to apply more pressure than usual, they

1387
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: were able to stick to assignments better than usual. It's

1388
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: still the in inconsistent Michigan State and inconsistent Wisconsin with

1389
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: their own clear flaws. But nice to see Michigan State

1390
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: bounce back in a moment like this. Look, it's not

1391
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: your I was gonna say, father's Wisconsin. It's not your

1392
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: very slightly older brothers Wisconsin defense, they've just taken a

1393
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: step back pretty much everywhere. Braylen Allen at his best

1394
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: is very good, but this Wisconsin team needs a lot

1395
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: and to get back to what I think expectations are

1396
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: in Madison, whether it's portal, whether it's talent, whether it's

1397
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: just an off season, to get everybody's heads right, they

1398
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: need a lot and I think the story here, though,

1399
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: is Michigan State gutting out an impressive win after some

1400
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: pretty low moments. I agree. You look at you know,

1401
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 2: Washington and Ohio State and Maryland.

1402
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: And finally Perdue forty three, Nebraska thirty seven eight and

1403
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: O'Connell nearly four hundred yards passing four maschdowns, Chuck Sizzle,

1404
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: Charlie Jones twelve grabs, one thirty two to two touchdowns.

1405
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: Perdue is five and two. Purdue may be the best

1406
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: team in the Big Ten West, very quietly, the most

1407
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: interesting division in college football. I have no idea who's

1408
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: any good the Big Ten West.

1409
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: You want to come out for Purdue Illinois to see

1410
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 2: who decides it. Drive down to Champagne, get some Papa Dell's.

1411
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't not want to. I don't not that actually

1412
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: could be a really fun game. That will be a

1413
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: really fun game. I don't recommend coming to the Land

1414
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: of Lincoln in mid November. It's not going to be

1415
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 2: super pleasant. I don't want to drive down the freeway

1416
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: to Champagne.

1417
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: So you asked me what you're saying. That's great, you

1418
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: can go.

1419
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: And regret everything. Yeah, please take Kate and go to Champagne.

1420
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: Enjoy the sites and sounds and bovine population.

1421
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm not there the bovine population. Yeah yeah.

1422
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: Illinois Perdue appear to be the class of the Big

1423
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: Ten West Monster game.

1424
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: By the way, for Traye Palmer, yes, the LSU trans

1425
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: the LSU transfer right. For Nebraska. The receiver seven grabs,

1426
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven yards and two touchdowns. He

1427
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: also had one rush for sixty yards. He had two

1428
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety seven total yards in this game. He

1429
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: had three hundred and forty four yards all of last season,

1430
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: so getting all of his work in in one year.

1431
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: What about the Purdue running back Makaby. Oh yeah, they

1432
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 2: haven't had a running game in years, and maccaby runs hard.

1433
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: Looks impressive, looks to be a nice little answer there,

1434
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: not little, but an answer there.

1435
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: Running back Perdue wins forty three to thirty seven. Elsewhere,

1436
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: just very quickly here. I'm sure you have other games

1437
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: you want to rattle off, of course, Georgia Southern takes

1438
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: down the Maddies for James Madison forty five to thirty eight.

1439
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: So James Madison falls from the ranks of the unbeaten.

1440
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1441
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: By virtue of this loss of Georgia Southern.

1442
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: Still may be the best Old Dominion bak Coastal so

1443
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the state of Virginia.

1444
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: Also, in the Dakota Marker Rivalry game, South Dakota State

1445
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: knocks off North Dakota State twenty three twenty.

1446
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: One two against one. Yeah, yeah, that.

1447
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: One got That one got a little bit of pub

1448
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: out there on Twitter. Folks are talking about that one

1449
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: as well. Any other game show that you want to

1450
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: call out quick before we get to.

1451
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: Do Yeah, I mentioned ODU. Old Dominion takes down Coastal

1452
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: Carolina like not close, forty nine to twenty one final

1453
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: some bounceback Action Southern miss a quietly interesting season. They

1454
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: take down Arkansas State. We had somebody lock up I

1455
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: think Western Kentucky against Middle Tennessee on our tie versus

1456
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 2: the World segment, and somebody take Georgia Southern. Both of

1457
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: them came through, of course, any other specific Action. Fresno

1458
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: won a game, so there's that to me. They beat

1459
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: San Jose State, who's been pretty good with Chavon Cordero,

1460
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,799
Speaker 2: seventeen to ten. Air Force laid the lumber against UNLV

1461
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: New Mexico State in the New Mexico Challenge. I don't

1462
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: know what that game is called. Twenty one to nine

1463
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: Utah State, who has been disappointing. They take down Colorado State,

1464
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 2: who has been very disappointing. Hawaii has not been good,

1465
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: but they take down Nevada who is sort of behaving

1466
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 2: like an FCS team at this moment elsewhere, and I

1467
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 2: saw that. Who did you see f absolutely murder? Yeah,

1468
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: Temple seventy to thirteen. John Rice Plumbley went justic he

1469
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: went off. Yeah. SMU Navy was a fun back and forth.

1470
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: Navy storm back to try to make it a game

1471
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: late but couldn't survive SMU and Tanner Mordecai Tulane, as

1472
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: our caller mentioned, six and one, quiet six and one.

1473
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: But they take down not a good South Florida team,

1474
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: but a South Florida team who I think ultimately is

1475
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: going to finish the season with the reputation as being difficult.

1476
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: How about that. ECU wins a four overtime thriller against Memphis,

1477
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: Seth Hennigan and hold Naylor's putting on a show anywhere

1478
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: else tie in the BacT. Did you see Kent State

1479
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: goes up twenty eight to seven and then just gets

1480
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: demolished by Toledo. This is happening in the MAC for.

1481
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: Forty five to three.

1482
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: They got outscored or something something like that. Yeah, Ohio

1483
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: weirdly won a game. They've been pretty bad. Buffalo continues

1484
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: to look solid. They take down U Mass takes down Yukon, who,

1485
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: by the way, is three and five, not for nothing,

1486
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 2: Yukon's three and five competitive game, but Akron Joe moorehead

1487
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 2: go down to Central Michigan like Frank Harris did really

1488
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: well on Friday Night, and FIU is bad. UAB gets

1489
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: to FOURGN two. They take down Charlotte, who moves to

1490
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: one in six and it's not one. In Conference USA,

1491
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: we mentioned Western Kentucky another impressive performance, this one against

1492
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee, which, by the way, does not feel good

1493
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: if you're in my only fancy Middle Tennessee struggle still

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Speaker 2: winless in Conference USA, North Texas comfortably takes down Louisiana

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Speaker 2: Tech FAU and Willie Taggert take down a resurgent rice squad.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah, what fresh hell is going

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Speaker 1: on in the MAC this year?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you to one and all for downloading, listening,

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Speaker 1: a warm and hearty thank you to everybody who's been

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Speaker 1: watching along live as we record this shows Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: Just grabbing a few out of the out of the

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Speaker 1: bag here beat you of a. We have Kale, we

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Speaker 1: have Warner, We have c kenp one of the OG's

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Speaker 1: here legend, will Fred Wilkinson. I don't believe that's a

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Speaker 1: real name, but close enough. We have Nick, we have Philip,

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Speaker 1: We have. I mean, just thank you to everybody for

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Speaker 1: chiming in here along in the chat for many others

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Speaker 1: who are watching who aren't chatting, We appreciate your support

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Speaker 1: here over at for ballers dot com. Should we get

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Speaker 1: to doodle alerts date.

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Speaker 2: Let's get some dudes.

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Speaker 1: What do we got?

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Speaker 2: Trey Palmer, Dalton Kinkid, Gavin Holmes, j Aalen Hyatt, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: say Wyatt, Quentin Johnston of course, Michael Pennic's going for

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Speaker 2: five bills plus against Arizona, which you kind of should do.

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Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez manning the tank. No, that doesn't sound rnning

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Speaker 2: the tank. Yeah, manning manning the offense for Kentucky in

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Speaker 2: a winning effort. Devin Makabee, who I just mentioned, Raheem

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Speaker 2: Sanders at altitude for Arkansas, paving the way with a

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Speaker 2: bucks seventy five and a couple touchdowns eleven point seven

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Speaker 2: yards per carry, by the way. You'll take it. You'll

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Speaker 2: absolutely take it. Hendon Hooker, of course has to be mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Cam Rising an absolute dude, putting the team on his

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Speaker 2: back with Dalton Kinkaid, So co dude's there. I don't

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Speaker 2: know everybody on Oklahoma. Eric Ray was sensational on the ground.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's sort of it for me. How

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 1: That sounds good. Look, we appreciate everybody's feedback throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the day.

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Speaker 2: Oh and Shaking Blake, by the way, not my nickname,

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Speaker 2: but I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I Shaken Dog marketing in the background here just says

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Speaker 1: she did when we closed out the episode on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: or the preview show. Excuse me. It was the kind

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Speaker 1: of episode that gets the animals, holland that gets people

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Speaker 1: in the house. Hallan right. It was an exciting week

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Speaker 1: of college football, to say the least. Week seven now

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Speaker 1: in the books. Thank you so much for downloading, for listening,

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Speaker 1: short days. Talk more college football in the meantime, follow

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