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Speaker 1: of Orlando Magic Pod Squad. This time we catch up

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Speaker 1: with Orlando Magic veteran first year in Orlando, tenth year

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, Joe Ingles kind enough to join.

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Speaker 2: Us, and this is a fun one.

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Speaker 1: I assure you we cover everything with Joe Ingles here

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Speaker 1: a great night and drive safe. Wants to get into

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Speaker 1: with Joe Ingles his basketball journey, what ultimately led him

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Speaker 1: to the NBA. What is he saying when he's out

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Speaker 1: there on the basketball for Joe is always talking, and

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Speaker 1: he gives some great insight into what that is all

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Speaker 1: What he thinks of this Orlando Magic team, some of

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Speaker 1: the decisions that led him coming to City beautiful, His

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Speaker 1: wife in a a professional netballer in Australia, and how

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Speaker 1: far this Magic team can go and You'll never guess

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Speaker 1: who his favorite NCAA player is. Right now we cover

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Speaker 1: it all with Joe Ingles on this edition of Magic

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Speaker 2: Orlando Magic and you're listen into the Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: And welcome everyone to another edition of Orlando Magic Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: Dote Marcadelli, George Galante, Jake Chapman here with us, and

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Speaker 1: we have the pleasure of welcoming in Joe Ingles, his

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Speaker 1: first foray into Magic Pod Squad. And Joe, you'll be

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Speaker 1: happy to know I got all black on. I know

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Speaker 1: you prefer either black or white. And then right look

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Speaker 2: You know the craziest pop if I legitimately like right

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Speaker 2: I put this on because every other time I do

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Speaker 3: I don't think you own he doesn't own any I

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Speaker 2: Do you know whatever the magic gave me. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't opened half the bags yet. But whatever's in.

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Speaker 1: There, whatever's in there. I remember sitting on the bus

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Speaker 2: It's not I'm not a I'm not a color sol guy.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, though, good Dante, though he is

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Speaker 1: Though he is, oh he's colorful guy. No.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get it the whole probably the best answer.

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Speaker 1: An artificial artificial intelligence probably caught it.

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Speaker 2: You know what the real called is is go a

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Speaker 4: What is it like to be I mean you've said

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Speaker 2: But also for me, I think it's actually I mean

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Speaker 5: Go when you came in you were what twenty five

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, so even even better. You never had good research.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember my first year in Australia playing professional.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, Joe. One thing that Magic fans mention a

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Speaker 2: Exactly. So what would you what would your.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just been a hell of a journey and

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Speaker 5: Jo when you were in Utah, you played four hundred

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Speaker 1: That is the proper.

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Speaker 1: Was in the flasketball always the goal, Joe, I know

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Speaker 2: But it is a similar route, like you start young

439
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: that the draft is like seventeen eighteen, and I've been

440
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 2: like like I've had a few really good friends. One

441
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: of my best friends played fifteen years in the AFL,

442
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 2: won four championships and now he's working in it, so

443
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 2: there is some like two really cool stories. But yeah,

444
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 2: just wasn't for me.

445
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 5: I just can't get over the fact that you gave

446
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 5: up cricket because there was nobody to talk to.

447
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: Though that tracks that you think about like.

448
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: Not just the fielding side where you're standing in like

449
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 2: a huge area by yourself, but also the batting it's

450
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: like two people out there and no one's talking, so

451
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: you can't like talk to the bowler who's bowling at you,

452
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: Like I don't know. It was just it was long

453
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 2: days too, like it was in the sun and it

454
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: wasn't It just wasn't for me.

455
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 5: Right wins along those same wayes tell me your favorite

456
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 5: thing about playing with Moll Wagner.

457
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: So I used to hate and I'm still probably like

458
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: fifty shifty whether I like him some days, and obviously

459
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: being in Milwaukee last year with him and Yartist is

460
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of history too, like, yeah, they were

461
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: big fans of him, so I automatically had to hate

462
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: him a bit more last year. The flip side of

463
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 2: that is like you get to know someone, which is

464
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: funny because like at a spot I kind of said

465
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: to me a bunch of times too, like you play

466
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: against me and no one really likes me, and then

467
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: being teammates is completely different. And Mos, I don't know.

468
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: He's just like an out there top of two. Like

469
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 2: he he has his emotions on his on his sleeve,

470
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: like he plays, he plays the right way, he plays hard,

471
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: he works his yes off like it's some of the

472
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: things that you just don't see when you play them

473
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 2: once a year or twice a year. And for me,

474
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: one of my things I try to pride myself on

475
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: what every time I've been on is that good connection

476
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: with the big I think for me it obviously helps

477
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: me a lot because I'm good at that in that

478
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: bigger role, but also not for me, like back in

479
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: Rudy's it was like, how can I help Rudy? How

480
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: can I held direct favors? How can I help even

481
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: though they're established like Giannis and Brook Lopez and these

482
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: bigger roles. And now with Mo who has kind of

483
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: been not in now the league, but few different teams

484
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: that aarved around, it's kind of had a bit of

485
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: a hope here, like how can I help him establish

486
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: himself in the NBA, and he's a great screen and

487
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: he's a great role he's got great hands. So for me,

488
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: it's like I'm very comfortable with where I am at

489
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: in my career. I don't need the numbers. I don't

490
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: need to shoot ten shots a game. I'm out there

491
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: to help this team, especially in this group, and it's

492
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: what I committed to when I spoke to Mos, was

493
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: like helping this group grow and helping these players grow.

494
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: And some days it's frustrating, Like some days I want

495
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: to do more, I want to play more. There's no

496
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: like this. I'm still I'm still competitive, but obviously with

497
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: the connection, especially with our second you like how can

498
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: I help Mo? How can I help J How can

499
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: I get cold going? How can me and Markel like

500
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: initiate in the offense when Gary was in there, Like

501
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: how can I get Gary shots? And that's just how

502
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: I thought of this whole year, And like, like I said,

503
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: it's obviously a connection with Mo that we probably played

504
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: the most bigger roles. But I definitely go out there

505
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: with the mindset of like definitely not thinking about me,

506
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: but like how I can help my teammates and obviously

507
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: overriding that is like, how could we win the game?

508
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: How guys get longevity, that's how they play for a

509
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: long time. Joe, when you're going into and the decision

510
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: is being made to come to Orlando and you're looking

511
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: at the roster. Obviously got the rookie of the year

512
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: and Fried, I don't know what all the factors, right,

513
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: I know you like the city as well and all

514
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: of that, but what did you think the potential at

515
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: the time of this taping your two games out a second,

516
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable what you've accomplished this year with still six

517
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: games to go. And I know you take it one

518
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: game at a time and everything, but what did you

519
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: think this team could realistically accomplish this year?

520
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's always a tough decision because you're

521
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: going to the summer and you have teams like pitch

522
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: to you and they like you. Obviously have some small

523
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: thoughts on where you want to go and what you

524
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: want to do, and like I've said nervous times, like

525
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: my family's kind of number one and that's me anyway,

526
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: that's always going to be the first decision, and everything

527
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: else kind of revolves around that. Once we thought Orlando

528
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: was a good city for that in terms of like Jake,

529
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 2: the kids and Renee. Yeah, you're just kind of like,

530
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: I mean, it is a gamble. It's always a gamble.

531
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: Like you go to Milwaukee, I didn't know what we

532
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: were going to how good we were go we end

533
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: up finishing first, we lose in the first round. Like

534
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: you just don't. You can't predict a lot of it.

535
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: But after speaking to Morow's especially like just his like

536
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: the passion and the I guess his like so sid

537
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: of like what he saw and what the group could do.

538
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: And obviously I'd seen him far away from like whatever

539
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: sixteen wins to twenty or whatever to thirty four like

540
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: that you could see the process of what they were

541
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: trying to do. And when you get down to it

542
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: was like, well, yeah, like obviously they've got it basically

543
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: the same team with me and a couple of draft picks,

544
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: and they proved, especially over the second half of last year,

545
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: how good they could be when they were playing the

546
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: style of basketball they wanted to play, and they were

547
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: healthy and all those things. And then obviously from my

548
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: it's like, well, how can I how can I come

549
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: in and make an impact and help because That's where

550
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: I'm at in my career. Like I want to obviously

551
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: want to win, to be a part of a winning group,

552
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: but I still want to make an impact some way.

553
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: And again, like like I said speaking to Moros, speaking

554
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: of my agent, you just look at all the options,

555
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: and like I said, it's always it's always a risk,

556
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: it's always a gamble. But I was very confident in

557
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: the family side of it and the lifestyle. I was

558
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: very confident after speaking to Moros and like what he

559
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: his kind of vision was. And then you go out

560
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: there and you just you kind of go like eggs

561
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: all in the basket and just see how far we

562
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: can push it. And I mean, we've been lucky to

563
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 2: be pretty healthy this year. We've we've had guys step up,

564
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: Like we've got such a deep team that when someone

565
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: is out, we've been able to just kind of like

566
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: next man out mentality, And like you said before, I

567
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: having your two best players or whatever be pretty much

568
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: healthy throughout the year, like is a is a huge

569
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: part of it too. And then they want to be

570
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: out there, they want to get better, they want to win,

571
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: Like the strike as they've taken defensively, the strides they've

572
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: taken offensively, Like it's it's all the things you hear

573
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: in the off season when they're trying to pitch you like,

574
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: Orlando is the best city and we've got best culture

575
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: and we've got the best facility, and you're like, hey,

576
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: like see when well we put it all together, And

577
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: I've got to say, like a lot of majority of

578
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: us been true, and the culture and the guys and

579
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: mows and the people around the organization and all that, Like, yeah,

580
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: we've really enjoyed it. As a family, My kids are

581
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: extremely happy. Rede always tells a silly story that we've

582
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: been in America nine and a big years or whatever,

583
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: and then we moved to Orlando and after about a

584
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: month of living there, we applied for our green cards.

585
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: So things worked out to some levels. So yeah, we've

586
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. And I, like I said, the big

587
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: part of me is Jacob and the schooling and my kids.

588
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: And Jacob's still unreal and my daughter loves her school,

589
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: and my youngest one absolutely loves his little school as well. Sorry,

590
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: that part, to me makes the basketball even even more

591
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: satisfying because I get to go home to a happy family.

592
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're staying Joe forever. What it sounds

593
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: like to me?

594
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: I am yeah, perfect, told him even if doesn't want

595
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: to be anymore, I'm gonna go play for stick.

596
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: Perfect.

597
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: You're still gonna be a part of this thing.

598
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: I love the you into Lackland Golf Club and I'll

599
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: play for all Steel already harm games though, and uh

600
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: of know what it means. We've really enjoyed it.

601
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Renee is a pretty accomplished athlete as well, professional netballer

602
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Joe's wife. That's that's pretty impressive.

603
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: What's netball, Dante? What's netball?

604
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's that basket that doesn't have the backboard on it,

605
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: and I don't you can't dribble, it's just passing and shooting.

606
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: But she was an accomplished netballer, if I'm not mistaken.

607
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she so, she played seventeen eighty years professionally. She

608
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: played for Australia one way, more gold medals than I have.

609
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: She's Player of the Year a few years she was. Yeah,

610
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: she's in that sense of what she'd done in career wise,

611
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: sporting crew. She she kind of did it all. She was.

612
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: She was pretty big time. So I'm glad she gave

613
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: me a little bit of time back in the day. Yeah,

614
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: I was not on track to go make a lot

615
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: of money playing basketball in the NBA, So I'm glad

616
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: she thought I was all right, and they're not. And

617
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: then obviously we had the kids. We had the twins first,

618
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: and Sheshley ends up getting pregnant having the twins, and

619
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: then went and played to get after eight months since

620
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: having the birth of the twins, which is is pretty miraculous,

621
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: not that I've had kids before and I'm not ever

622
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: gonna that's incredilefully what that takes. But eight months seems

623
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: pretty crazy to me. And and now that I guess

624
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: the fun part now for our family is which was

625
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: a part of getting the green cards, was like Renee

626
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: being out. She's got so much education that she's done

627
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: over over the part of kind of being a mother

628
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: and playing professionally of now getting her into some work.

629
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: She really wants to to get back out there and

630
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: getting that that kind of sporting world front office, which

631
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: is what her education is. And now that our kids

632
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: are at age where they're at school and I'm obviously

633
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: at the other end of my career, we can she's

634
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: really getting into that so all and has been awesome

635
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: for that too, and some people that have opened some

636
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: doors for her to get in and just have some conversations.

637
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, obviously proud of her career, but probably more

638
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: proud of the mother and what she allows me to do.

639
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm sitting in Charlotte right now. She's got

640
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: a sick three year old at home, she's trying to

641
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: get on calls, she's trying to do some work, and

642
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: she's at school pickup right now. Like that's the other

643
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: side of it, which which I think a lot of

644
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 2: people forget about that. We we all, we all at

645
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: different levels, are very lucky to have the systems we have.

646
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've gotten a call at three am, George that

647
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: the small factor won't start, the battery is dying in

648
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: the smoke detector right right at that one.

649
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I get them all.

650
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did all of them exactly. Your daughter, your

651
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: daughter won't put on shorts today.

652
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm.

653
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: Sure it's your doctor at that point, Joe, you mentioned

654
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: Jacob and we had the Culture City training as a

655
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: as a magic staff, and obviously the work you guys

656
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: do is it is incredible autism awareness it's it's optimism

657
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 5: Autism Awareness Month, and and the NBA has really embraced

658
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: that cause what does it mean to you to see

659
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: how awareness has grown over the past couple of years

660
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 5: and within the league and kind of the direction that

661
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: it's moving.

662
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's unreal that I think the

663
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: NBA does a great job and even the teams individually

664
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: do a great job of trying to support obviously like

665
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: a lot of issues that are going on, all certain things,

666
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: but also what you like individual players. Obviously, players of

667
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 2: their own events have things that they at a closed door.

668
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: It's passionate to them. And I mean I remember playing

669
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: in the Autism Games in Utah before we even knew

670
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: about Jacob, and you kind of playing it but like

671
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: I knew what was going on, but you hadn't. I

672
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: didn't like dive too deeply into it. But then to

673
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: have I think one of the like and that's why

674
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: Utah will always be pretty special to me, was when

675
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Jacob did get diagnosed and like early on, only Quinn

676
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: and Dennis Linday, who was president at the time, knew

677
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: what was going on because I was missing things here

678
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: and there. Well I'm not missing it, but like especially

679
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: my mind was missing a lot of things and definitely

680
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: wasn't playing well, and just to have that supportive. It's

681
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: like billion dollar organization that realistically, like the end of

682
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: the day, we can say all these things, but everyone

683
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: wants to win, Like that's the end of that's the

684
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: end goal. That's why they're putting money into it, that's

685
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: why they do what they're doing. For them to like

686
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: almost like take a step back from that and be like, hey,

687
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: Joe has to deal with this and I'm and I'm

688
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: going to deal with it, like that's the other part

689
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: of it, Like it you got to do it, and

690
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to be there for my family. So them

691
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: diving into it, and then what we were able to

692
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: do in Utah with the games and probably them even

693
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 2: more to to a higher level, and then doing it

694
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: with Milwaukee last year, and then obviously having it the

695
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: Culture City training with with you guys and the staff,

696
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: and we actually got to bring Jacob up to the

697
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: whole staff meeting, which was awesome just to just to

698
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: give a bit of an insight I think for ours

699
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: and what we've tried to do with that, the platforms

700
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: we've we've been given is just show that like we

701
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: like normal people too, we have the same daily struggles

702
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: or weekly sorry, like I get financially and different things

703
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: that we can. We can tick a lot of boxes

704
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: and that helps a lot with Jacob. I'm not I'm

705
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: not denying that it's not something I'm a skip over.

706
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: But we still have the say, like Jake, if Jacob

707
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: wants to have a meltdown and lose his mind and

708
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: doesn't want to go somewhere like being an NBA player,

709
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: doesn't stop like it's still a I remember we had

710
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: my my wife had Jacobin in Australia one time a

711
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and trying to get passport photos

712
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: for our greenpar for our visas, and he's like laying

713
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: on the floor, kicking, screaming, punching, doesn't want to do anything.

714
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: And a man walks past my wife who's got three

715
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: kids and trying to deal with take them. You need

716
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 2: to control your child in here or or something along

717
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: those sands like there they're the moments for ours as

718
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: a family, that this is why we do what we do.

719
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: Like the kid in the supermarket, or the kid at Disney,

720
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: or the kid at the Magic Game, like you just

721
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with with with families, adults

722
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: or or the kids. So we've tried to put that

723
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: awareness out of there as much as we can. It's

724
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: why we do what we do. We don't need the

725
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: paddle on the back, we don't need the fundraising. We're

726
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: very lucky in certain senses, but we know we can

727
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: help and impact other people that artists like he as us,

728
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: so well, we try to do as much as we can.

729
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: It's obviously hard with three kids that are soon to

730
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: be working, wife and my schedule and trying to go

731
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: home and summers and me playing with the National tante

732
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: as a lot that we try to juggle. But the

733
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: other side of it is every time I've been on

734
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: it's been unbelievable. It's supporting the things that we've tried

735
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: to push. Shot very thankful for all the teams I've

736
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: been a part of and the people that make it

737
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: important instead of kind of pushing it to the side.

738
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: Well that's great, and you guys have done incredible work

739
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: and continue to do incredible work. For Magic fans that

740
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: come to Kia Center, there's a century room, uh, so

741
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: you can go to that. I know that's huge, one

742
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: of the few arenas that has that. I know that

743
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: makes a difference as well. And Joe, We're gonna be

744
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: mindful of your time here. We're gonna let you go,

745
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: but I can't let you get out of here without

746
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: asking you because I think it's the same as me

747
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: and Jake. Your favorite college basketball player right now, there's

748
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: four teams right hands down?

749
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 2: Who is it? Have you heard the stories? Yeah?

750
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: No, tell me, tell me keep going.

751
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: I am the there's no doubt on the biggest DJ

752
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: Burns during your fan Ineverrea, How great is that? So

753
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not a huge college but I

754
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: remember like in Utah we draft kids that I'd be like,

755
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: where did they get drafts like it? It's never been

756
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: a huge thing that I've followed. Obviously, being in America,

757
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: you see more. It's just a round more. But I

758
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: was at home the other day during that game and

759
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: I just was flicking through the TV and I saw

760
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: it and as I turned it off, which might have

761
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: just been a really good coincidence, he like caught it

762
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: in the block and went to work, and I was like,

763
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. Like he's a big dude, he's six

764
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: ten or whatever he is. He's like he's he's a

765
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: big dude. I was like, there's no way this is

766
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: like what this is kind of how they're playing and

767
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: no disrespect to him at all. I just hadn't I'd

768
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: never seen, but yeah, I heard of ends he stayed before,

769
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: to be honest, And next play down they went and

770
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: did the same thing and it was like throw it

771
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: in the post and the other four on the other

772
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: side of the floor. He got another bucket and then

773
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm like this, like this too is legit. And then

774
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: the best part about it, which obviously like my personality,

775
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: it was like he was like dancing. It's a close

776
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: game and he's dance and he's laughed and pointing it.

777
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: It looked like he was like pointing at the dude

778
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: bench at times, like he was there's a part of

779
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: that that I love, Like, yeah, he takes it serious.

780
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: He obviously loves what he does, but like he's enjoying it,

781
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 2: like he's what are they eleven, twelfth ranked or something

782
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: like they were not supposed to be there and they're

783
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: still there. And I actually asked Ernest Eugene, who's our

784
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: head athletic trainer, if he knew the athletic trainer n

785
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: C stayed to get me a jersey, so where I need.

786
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

787
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I d J Burns Junior well like game one. Yeah,

788
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: since then, I'm always I think he's I think he's awesome.

789
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: I and not just the bar like I love like

790
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: he was smiling out there, he's having fast he was,

791
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: and that to me is like the best part of

792
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: what we do. Like we obviously have a job to

793
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: do and we take it serious. And that call is

794
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: too like coaches are like if they lose, the coach

795
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: is getting fired, they can transfer. There's all these great

796
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: but to see how much fun he was having and

797
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: I can I'm telling you now, I'm I don't know

798
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: care what. I don't know when they play next or

799
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: what day is. I will be.

800
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Watching Saturday and you're off. They play on Saturday and.

801
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: You're all there we go, so I'll be my whole

802
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: family will be watching DJ Burns and hopefully they make

803
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: the fighters they made. I don't know if I'm playing

804
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: the next I need to go to the game. If

805
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: they make fine, maybe I'll go to the game on Saturday.

806
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Maybe I should fly in and wre did that have

807
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: be something Phoenix.

808
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: You'd have to get to Phoenix.

809
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: It's all the way. Is that where it is?

810
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: But you could do that, Yeah, and then back to

811
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Orlando for Sunday. That's going to be bad one, but.

812
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, ifs like that, But I love that, like just

813
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: the energy and yeah, I hope that the world and

814
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: the bubble, Like that's that's what you want. Like that's

815
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: I said to a few guys like wouldn't you love

816
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: that in your locker room?

817
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: Like that's absolute hostality and the vibe of what he

818
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 6: would bring in whether he played or didn't play, or

819
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: he's he's a young guy working, like have that every day,

820
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 6: Like that's what a thirty six year old needs.

821
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: So that I am old. DJ Street, I love it.

822
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 6: We'll watch.

823
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: We hope he goes to the championship game on Monday,

824
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: but you never know what the future hold. We're just

825
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: glad to hear that you're going to be in Orlando

826
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: another ten years playing.

827
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: For the Magic.

828
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: So that's exciting, Joe.

829
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

830
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: The two after that, the Solar Bears, you're not going anywhere.

831
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: We're going to keep your eye for a while. Jo,

832
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: This was great. We really appreciate the time. I know

833
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: it's busy. You got a game tomorrow. Good luck the

834
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: rest of the lady. This has been a blast and

835
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: let's keep this thing going.

836
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thanks guys, all right, thanks so much.

837
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of Magic Pod Squad