WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Gets Curious About Mars

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer at

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff Works and I love all things tech. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for another classic episode of tech Stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>recently I did an enormous series about space travel, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've given you guys a few days to recover from that,

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<v Speaker 1>but now it's time to go back. This classic episode

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<v Speaker 1>has Chris Polette and I talking about the Curiosity Project,

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<v Speaker 1>the Curiosity Project that went to Mars, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible mission and one that was really inspiring for us,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had a great time talking about it. We

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<v Speaker 1>originally published this episode all the way back on August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, two thousand and twelve. I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. Let's listen in today we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about stuff. What beeps? Yes, stuff, what beeps? What

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<v Speaker 1>we shoot off into space to hit the red planet

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<v Speaker 1>that is near us sometimes near us? And well it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because there there is another science podcast around here somewhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to blow your mind. Yeah, we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>them because we decided, well, occasionally we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff because we're fascinated by it, and we decided

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't care if they talk about this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>overlap because we wanted to talk about the Mars rover. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and and specifically we're talking about the Curiosity rover, which

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<v Speaker 1>successfully touched down on the surface of Mars, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the way of delivering said rover to the

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<v Speaker 1>surface of Mars was I think the scientific term is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely freaking crazy. I was gonna say nuts, but that'll work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the short version of the full scientific term. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And we want to talk about why is it such

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, why is it so hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Mars, and sort of talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>historical missions that led up to Curiosity as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the Curiosity mission itself. So, um, do you let's say that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say we're talking about the success failure rate of

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<v Speaker 1>missions to Mars. Yeah. Um, depending not pleasant to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon how you define success or failure. Uh. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the more common statistics I've seen, or are figures

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen, is that twenty three out of thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>missions sent to Mars failed in some way. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>which gives it a pretty dismal success rate. Are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you speaking of all missions to Mars a missions tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>So anybody who's ever shot something at the Red Planet,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone anyone on Earth. We just we can't just pointing

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<v Speaker 1>that out. We can't really talk about anyone from outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Earth. We don't know. Good point, but I meant

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<v Speaker 1>not you not it states. Of course we are located

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, and why I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that you're not talking You're talking at Earthlings.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States success failure rate is better. It's thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>successes out of eighteen tries prior to curiosity, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is important to point out too, that

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<v Speaker 1>the United States has been later to the let's throw

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<v Speaker 1>stuff at the Red planet party, and so maybe part

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<v Speaker 1>of the failures of the Soviet Union is well, part

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<v Speaker 1>of them is due to the fact that the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>Union is no more. But when they were very active

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<v Speaker 1>at this, they were maybe not so good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the probably be better at it now they

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<v Speaker 1>were the only ones doing it at the time. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>they were. So you might say, well, why is the

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<v Speaker 1>why is this success rates so low? Mars is hard

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard to get to and and here's the

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<v Speaker 1>moon might be a little closer. Yeah, let's I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you some figures here. So the average distance between Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and the Moon is about two thou in nine miles

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<v Speaker 1>or three four thousand, four hundred kilometers. That's about how

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<v Speaker 1>far it is from Earth to the Moon. And it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a few days for us to send something to

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<v Speaker 1>go land on the Moon. So for example, astronauts aboard

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<v Speaker 1>and Apollo Capsule take a few days to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and to get there in a few more days to

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<v Speaker 1>get back. Um, but that's that's doable. We did do it,

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly it's doable. It's a vacation. Getting someone to Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting anything to Mars takes a lot more time. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of that is because the distance between Earth and

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<v Speaker 1>Mars is not constant. And the reason for that is

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, both planets are going around the Sun, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going at different speeds and their orbits are

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<v Speaker 1>different sizes. So there are times when Earth and Mars

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<v Speaker 1>are aligned and they are about as close as they

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<v Speaker 1>poss can be. And there are other times where Earth

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<v Speaker 1>is on one side of the Sun and Mars is

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the Sun, and they're about

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<v Speaker 1>as far apart as they possibly can be, so the

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<v Speaker 1>distance varies dramatically. At the closest earthen, Mars are about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three million, nine hundred thousand miles apart or fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four million, six hundred thousand kilometers. So to compare again

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon, the Moon was two hundred thirty eight thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred miles away, Mars thirty three million, nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand miles away, So that's not a day trip way further,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's at its closest. At its furthest away, Mars

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<v Speaker 1>is about two hundred forty nine million, one hundred sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand miles away or four hundred one million kilometers away.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're gonna make a mission to Mars of

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<v Speaker 1>any kind, um then you need to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking about it and and plan in beforehand, because

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<v Speaker 1>you need to decide, Okay, well, what are we gonna

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<v Speaker 1>send there. We're gonna send a rover, um man, how

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<v Speaker 1>how much is that gonnaway? Well, it's gonna weigh about

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<v Speaker 1>this much? How much you know, rocket tuge do we

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<v Speaker 1>need to throw at it? Okay, so you got your

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your rocket tude, and your just makesically think

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<v Speaker 1>like some sort of nineteen eighties side scrolling video game. Rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write that, um and your rover, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you know what you wanted to do, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how to get it there? Uh, you start having

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<v Speaker 1>to think about all sorts of other stuff. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>so how much gravity? Uh does Mars have? How much

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<v Speaker 1>difference in the weight is there going to be once

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<v Speaker 1>this this rover gets there? How are you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much atmospheric interference is going to be there? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to plan how long it's gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>for you to shoot this thing into space and get

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<v Speaker 1>to Mars, and how it's gonna stop when it gets there. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to take a new account. If

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<v Speaker 1>you know roughly how long it's gonna take. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>the two planets going to be? Yeah, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out when you're from there and go, Okay, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be at their closest here, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to launch it then can make that happen. Technically, you

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<v Speaker 1>even have to launch it before then, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do what's called a transfer orbit. So so by

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<v Speaker 1>the let's let's say let's say we've got to the point.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it takes about two years for Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and Mars to line up so that they are at

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<v Speaker 1>their closest, and then it will take another two years

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<v Speaker 1>before they are at that same position relative to one another.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a two year gap between when uh your

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<v Speaker 1>closest when you're not and close is important because that

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<v Speaker 1>determines how much fuel you're going to need to get

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is you're sending to Mars there. And fuel

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<v Speaker 1>is heavy because we depend on you know, uh, these

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<v Speaker 1>these chemical fuels that are you know, these solid chemical

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<v Speaker 1>fuels that that weigh a lot, They give off a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy and they are about as a fish

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<v Speaker 1>sent as we possibly can be with chemical uh fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, their weight factors into the whole calculation.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to use as as little fuel as

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<v Speaker 1>possible to get your your spacecraft to Mars to be

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<v Speaker 1>as efficient as you possibly can be. This is also

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<v Speaker 1>why it's really difficult to talk about a manned mission

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<v Speaker 1>to Mars. I'll get to that in a second. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you when you when Earth and Mars are closest together,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to launch at that point, Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just point the rocket at Mars where Mars

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<v Speaker 1>is right now, because it is not gonna be there

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<v Speaker 1>by the time the the spacecraft would have made its

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<v Speaker 1>way to that point. You know, both planets are still

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<v Speaker 1>moving around the Sun, so your spacecraft would be going

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<v Speaker 1>to where Mars used to be, not to wear Mars

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be. So you actually have to planet

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<v Speaker 1>out ahead of time to make sure you are being

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<v Speaker 1>as economic as possible with your fuel use. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a paraphrase the great one, you have to launch the

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<v Speaker 1>rocket at where the planet's gonna be. Yeah, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>shoot for where it will be, not for where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry, go ahead, I was just gonna say so. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of thought that has to go

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<v Speaker 1>into this before before you even build the rocket, before

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<v Speaker 1>you even build the rover. You really have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about what you need to do to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, when you shoot something at the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>the factors are lessened somewhat by the distance and and

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<v Speaker 1>the proximity of the Moon. You know what, you that

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<v Speaker 1>the orbit and all those things are are are lesser

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<v Speaker 1>and the more complex a project gets you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>more factors you have to deal with, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>that that's going to make it more difficult to reach

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<v Speaker 1>Mars than it is to reach the Moon. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you were trying to reach Pluto, for example, the factors

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<v Speaker 1>get even more difficult. And Pluto's got such an odd

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<v Speaker 1>orbit anyway. So I mean, this is this is know,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't rockets, so it's it's complex. It's not brain surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>so the yeah, so it takes about it takes about

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<v Speaker 1>between seven and eight months to get from Earth to

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<v Speaker 1>Mars using the methods that we have available to us today.

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<v Speaker 1>There are scientists who have suggested that we look into

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<v Speaker 1>using a nuclear powered propulsion system in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>from Earth to Mars, which would significantly reduce the weight

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<v Speaker 1>of your vehicle because you wouldn't have to have so

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<v Speaker 1>much chemical fuel aboard. But then there are other problems,

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<v Speaker 1>of course with the idea of the nuclear propulsion system,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're going to use some sort of chemical

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<v Speaker 1>propulsion to get you off the the surface of the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth into lower Earth orbit before you engage the nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>propulsion system. Having explosives next to a nuclear device makes

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<v Speaker 1>people nervous. I don't know why. There's also the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that people have said of of building the spacecraft in

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<v Speaker 1>lowerth orbit, So you would have space missions that would

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<v Speaker 1>go out build this craft and lowerth orbit, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you solve the problem of having to escape Earth's gravity. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You engage the nuclear propulsion system then and that also

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<v Speaker 1>gets around it at any rate. So you've got about

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<v Speaker 1>seven to eight months to get to Mars, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly what you're sending there and and the timing involved. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is and here's the reason why a manned mission

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<v Speaker 1>to Mars would be really really difficult. Let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>we sent let's say we we built the spacecraft that

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<v Speaker 1>that is capable of carrying a party of about six

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts to Mars. That tends to be about the number

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<v Speaker 1>of crew members that is considered ideal. Uh. This comes

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<v Speaker 1>from NASA, and NASA says that ideal number is somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>reached by You want to have enough of a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of people so that you can balance out any personality issues.

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<v Speaker 1>You also want to have enough so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>represent multiple nationalities because you have to have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of partnerships with other countries in order for these projects

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<v Speaker 1>to come through, so there's a political element to it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Um so let's say we've built the ship

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<v Speaker 1>that could hold six people, uh, that can hold all

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<v Speaker 1>the supplies they would need to get to Mars and back.

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<v Speaker 1>It would still take thirty two months from the time

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<v Speaker 1>you launch to the time you touched down back on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth to do a Mars mission. And the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>that is that because it takes seven to eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, assuming that you're going for pure fuel economy

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<v Speaker 1>again to limit the weight of your spacecraft, takes seven

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<v Speaker 1>to eight months for you to get to Mars. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time you land on Mars, the Mars and the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth are no longer in that ideal situation where you

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<v Speaker 1>can easily get from one to the other. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, by the time the Curiosity rover landed

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface of Mars, Mars was further away from

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth than the Earth was to the Sun. So

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you land, the Earth is further away

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<v Speaker 1>from you than the Sun would be if you were

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<v Speaker 1>still on Earth. So you have to wait for that

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<v Speaker 1>timing to be right again so that you can launch

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<v Speaker 1>from Mars and get back to Earth. That takes almost

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<v Speaker 1>two years, So from the time you leave to the

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<v Speaker 1>time you get back thirty two months past, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's a very long mission. And during that whole

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<v Speaker 1>time you would also have to be able to to

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<v Speaker 1>not only provide all the resources your astronauts would need

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<v Speaker 1>to stay alive on the surface of Mars, which not

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<v Speaker 1>a very friendly planet for us, not too terribly accommodating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not the worst, but it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the best either. You would also have to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to protect them from things like radiation. The longer

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<v Speaker 1>you're out in space, the more likely you are to

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<v Speaker 1>encounter various forms of radiation that we are protected from

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<v Speaker 1>here on Earth due to factors like their's atmosphere and

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<v Speaker 1>its magnetic field. So you have to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>do you protect the astronauts from things like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>radiation out in space, so that they don't turn into

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<v Speaker 1>incredible incredible hulk or a cosmic race, so they don't

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<v Speaker 1>come back as the Fantastic six, because there would be

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<v Speaker 1>two more than the four UM. I also thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to point out that there need to be

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<v Speaker 1>enough people aboard so that when the aliens do start

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<v Speaker 1>bursting out of them that you know there's somebody left

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of Yeah, you have to have that

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic person at the end so they can come back

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<v Speaker 1>and tell the story and and and blame the corporation

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<v Speaker 1>from the documentary alien um the Yes. So there there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of factors that make it really really

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<v Speaker 1>hard for us to send amanned mission to Mars, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why the missions that we've sent to Mars so

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<v Speaker 1>far have been unmanned missions. And uh, even those have

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<v Speaker 1>not had a great success rate, although again the United

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<v Speaker 1>States success rate is significantly higher than if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to to think of the entire world UM, which is

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<v Speaker 1>mainly the USSR or SO Union at the time, UM

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<v Speaker 1>now would be Russia in the various countries around Russia. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Japan also has attempted to send missions to Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was I think a European mission as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So the the first attempt to send a mission to Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>an unmanned mission to Mars was in nineteen sixty by

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union and it was called corrobl four KO

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<v Speaker 1>R A B L and R in the B in

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<v Speaker 1>our alphabet. I don't read cilic, so I couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the other version but um, yeah, that was in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty It did not even it didn't reach Earth orbit,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was a failure early on it did not

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<v Speaker 1>um even make it into lower th orbit, much less

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<v Speaker 1>out into Mars. I actually saw that one listed as

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<v Speaker 1>Mars Nick Mars Nick interested. Uh, so this is the

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<v Speaker 1>information I got was from NASA. Okay, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>going from an article and Wired, so yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is from NASA, so they had to Actually that

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<v Speaker 1>went around the same time CORRABL four and five according

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<v Speaker 1>to NASA, but I'm sure I had different names in

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<v Speaker 1>the Wired article. The first attempt by the United States

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<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen sixty four with the Mariner three UM,

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<v Speaker 1>which was it was supposed to be a fly by mission.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a spacecraft that's supposed to pass by

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<v Speaker 1>Mars and take photos as it goes by. Uh. That

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<v Speaker 1>one was also a failure. The the shroud failed to jettison,

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<v Speaker 1>so it did not make it to Mars. But shortly thereafter,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariner four was a successful fly by mission and

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<v Speaker 1>it returned twenty one images of Mars to Earth. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States first attempt was a failure, but the

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<v Speaker 1>second attempt succeeded. UM. There were a lot of attempts

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<v Speaker 1>since then. Uh. Some of them, many of them were flybys, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them were meant to be orbit ters. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of launch failures, a lot of orbits that

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<v Speaker 1>were obtained, but then the device failed before it could

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<v Speaker 1>really retrieve a lot of information. The first success really

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<v Speaker 1>for the Soviet Union UM was the Mars five which

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<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen seventy three, and that was that returned

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<v Speaker 1>sixty images of the planet and it but it only

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<v Speaker 1>lasted nine days. Yeah, Mars to actually attempted to put

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<v Speaker 1>a lander on the surface, but not so much with

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<v Speaker 1>the success. Yeah, the orbiter actually arrived into the orbit

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<v Speaker 1>of Mars, but yeah, the lander did not did not

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<v Speaker 1>land successfully. Chris and I have more to say about

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<v Speaker 1>the Curiosity ander over on Mars, but before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the challenges again that I had read about,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the recent coverage on Curiosity again recent as

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<v Speaker 1>of the time we're recording this UM, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere of Mars is very very unlike that of Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very thin. Yes, So I mean, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about Uh, for example, the Space Shuttle coming

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<v Speaker 1>back in or the Mercury and Geminy missions. I love

0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.879
<v Speaker 1>doing that because Jonathan wins Is every time I see Geminy.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the astronauts called it that though. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>using the heat shields and coming in and having the

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<v Speaker 1>heat shield you know, burning as it comes through the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's atmosphere. Uh, Mars's atmosphere does not act as a

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<v Speaker 1>slower downer, not not as much. It does. It does

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<v Speaker 1>slow down the vehicle, but not as much. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was going to say that. Okay, well you

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<v Speaker 1>said and as you said that, you said it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a slower downer. I wanted to correct, well, not as

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, not as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>does here, and with gravity being so different there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Um it is those are our factors that the scientists

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<v Speaker 1>have to take into account. Um I if I am

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. You know there have been times when we

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<v Speaker 1>tried to use a big cushiony bouncy ball to try

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<v Speaker 1>to protect something and and it didn't work out to

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<v Speaker 1>what we But we have had Rover's Land using that approach. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an air air bag approach, is really what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>A's airbags. Uh. Well, yes, the the atmosphere on Mars

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<v Speaker 1>is thinner than it is on Earth, and it does

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<v Speaker 1>not slow entry vehicles down to the same extent as

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<v Speaker 1>we would have here on Earth. So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with other ways of slowing your entry vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>entry vehicle down, uh, if you don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>boom on the surface of the planet. And there have

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of different attempts to do that. So

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<v Speaker 1>previous attempts involved using parachutes, which can slow you down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but even then the atmosphere is so

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<v Speaker 1>thin that you're going Uh. They, for example, the Curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>rover deployed the largest supersonic parachute NASA has ever built,

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<v Speaker 1>which way I think a hundred pounds total. That was

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<v Speaker 1>that was able to slow down the vehicle to two

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour. Uh. And I don't have the kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>perer conversion. They're right in front of me, so I

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<v Speaker 1>apologized for that. But anyway, even at that speed, there

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<v Speaker 1>was no way the rover could land and maintain integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have smashed to little tiny pieces. So they

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<v Speaker 1>had to find another way of slowing down. Uh. There

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<v Speaker 1>are other elements literally on Mars that make this difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the potential things you could do is use

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<v Speaker 1>rockets to slow down your your entry vehicle. But the

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<v Speaker 1>closer you get to the surface of the planet, the

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<v Speaker 1>more those rockets are going to disturb the dust that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface. That dust can cause lots of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have sensitive scientific equipment. This equipment might get

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<v Speaker 1>gummed up by dust. The dust could damage it so

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<v Speaker 1>that it's unusable, which means that you might land successfully,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't actually retrieve any data because your instruments

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<v Speaker 1>are fouled by dust. Um the dust itself could also

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<v Speaker 1>be corrosive, so there's some real problems there. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out, well, if you can't just use rockets,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to find some other balancing features so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can lower the rover itself onto the surface

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<v Speaker 1>without getting the rockets so close to the surface that

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<v Speaker 1>they start to disturb the dust about kilometers per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so uh in some cases the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the rovers we have landed. Now, we we've also launched

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<v Speaker 1>orbiters that just orbit Mars and take uh scientific measurements

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<v Speaker 1>from orbit. So we've got some of those in orbit already. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we've got a couple that we launched not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago, we being the United States. UM. The

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<v Speaker 1>the there's the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which was launched in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five and uh it's already returned more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six terra bits of data about the planet. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also the Odyssey Mars Odyssey, which was launched in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand one UM and both of those have contributed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to our scientific knowledge. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has

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<v Speaker 1>a boarded a special camera called the High Resolution Imaging

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<v Speaker 1>Science Experiment or high RISE, and the high RISE actually

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<v Speaker 1>caught a great photo of the Curiosity rover as it

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<v Speaker 1>was landing with the parachute deployed. So you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>see the parachute, you can see the capsule that contained

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<v Speaker 1>the rover. You can if you look really carefully, you

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<v Speaker 1>can even see the heat shield that was jettisoned off

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the rover. We'll talk more about that

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<v Speaker 1>whole procedure in just a minute. UM. So, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things you could do is you use rockets to

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<v Speaker 1>slow yourself down further from the parachute, so the parachute

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<v Speaker 1>gets you down to a certain speed. The rockets can

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<v Speaker 1>slow you down a little bit more, and then as

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<v Speaker 1>you get closer to the surface, you need to find

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<v Speaker 1>a way of lowering the rover itself so that the

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<v Speaker 1>rockets don't disturb the dust too much. One way of

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<v Speaker 1>doing that is to lower the rover, uh to essentially

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<v Speaker 1>drop it with all these air bags around it, which

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<v Speaker 1>cushioned the blow, and it lands and then it retrieves

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<v Speaker 1>the air bags and or or emerges from the air

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<v Speaker 1>bags and continues on submission. That's how the smaller rovers

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<v Speaker 1>um landed from the smaller ones being things like the

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit and the Opportunity, uh, the Phoenix Lander, things like

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<v Speaker 1>that used those sort of approaches because um they were

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<v Speaker 1>they were small enough where it wasn't that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as huge a challenge. With the Curiosity Rover. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a one ton vehicle, and at that size, the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the air bags you would need are so

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<v Speaker 1>huge that you would really run the risk of even

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<v Speaker 1>if everything worked properly, you would run the risk of

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<v Speaker 1>fouling the drive system of the Curiosity Rover because it

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<v Speaker 1>has to get out of this enormous air bag. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was considered too risky. Another approach is to put

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<v Speaker 1>uh these so pretty much like stilts, like landing stilts,

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<v Speaker 1>so that when the the rockets lower the the descent

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle down, the the stilts touch ground and keep the

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<v Speaker 1>rockets at an elevation high enough so that they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing the dust too much, and then the rover can

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<v Speaker 1>drop down from there. Again. With the Curiosity rover, it

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<v Speaker 1>was so large and heavy, the stilts would have had

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<v Speaker 1>to have been way too tall to do this in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that would have been easy to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>also it would have really made it difficult to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>that the Curiosity would be undamaged as it came down.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to come up with a different way

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<v Speaker 1>to get the Curiosity Rover onto the surface of Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was insane. A sky crane. Sky crane. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that sounds that sounds like some kind of strange,

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>other worldly company. And so we'll walk you through how

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<v Speaker 1>how this unfolded. And it's still incredible to me that

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<v Speaker 1>this worked well. I think, um, and I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>this in any way to be a slight to the

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>scientists behind this. I think they were a little astonished. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction that we saw at the and as we

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<v Speaker 1>learned that the Curiosity had in fact landed successfully. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, by the time we knew that the

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<v Speaker 1>Curiosity was successful in its landing, it had been on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of Mars for several minutes. Because again Mars

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>is further away at the point of the Curiosity landing

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<v Speaker 1>from Earth than the Earth is to the Sun. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes it takes about eight minutes for light from the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun to get to Earth. It takes fourteen minutes for

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic communication to get from Mars to the Earth Internet

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<v Speaker 1>now fourteen minutes for that information to get to us.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes seven minutes from the time the landing capsule

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<v Speaker 1>enters the Martian atmosphere to the point where Curiosity would

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>touch down. That means there's a seven minute gap where

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>things have already happened and we do not know what

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>they were. Yes, so it was seven minutes of terror,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>which is I think brilliant. There was a wonderful video

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>NASA put out that was very dramatic, almost almost comedically so,

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was like it was like a thriller movie, right,

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but it was all about the seven minutes of terror.

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you have to build a vehicle that's

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>operating autonomously for for you know, there's nothing you can do.

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't make any adjustments because it's going to take

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>fourteen minutes for that information to get to you, and

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>then any information you send back it's going to take

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>fourteen minutes for it to get there. So by the

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>time you send any sort of information, by the time

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you react to a changing condition, it doesn't matter. Things

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>have changed too much for that to have any effect. So, uh,

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the capsule enters the Martian atmosphere, there's seven minutes until

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>it touches down, and then seven more minutes before we

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.719
<v Speaker 1>find out that anything about it. The first thing that

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>happens is the atmosphere starts to slow down the capsule,

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and like we said, it's a thin atmosphere, so it

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't slow it down that much. It is, however, thick

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>enough to cause lots of heat from friction. So it's

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a double whammy for NASA right on the breaks exactly,

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>all the heat none of a break. So you have

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to build a device that's capable with standing the heat.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But I have to make you have to take into

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>account the fact that the atmosphere is not going to

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 1>slow it down sufficiently enough for it to make a

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>safe landing. What a headache. So that's already tough. Capsule

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>enters the atmosphere, starts to heat up, has to have

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a heat shield to protect the innerds because electronics don't

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>react well to heat. Said a billion times uh, not literally.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 1>The once it reaches a certain altitude, uh, it deploys

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the parachute, which slows down the the vehicle even more.

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And so it started to slow down once it hits

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere. Actually takes a little while before it starts

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to slow down, but it does slow down. Hitting the atmosphere,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the parachute slows it down further. Once it slows down

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>as much as it possibly can with the parachute, it

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>jettison the parachute, which is important because then it activates rockets.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>So if it activated the rockets first, then there's the

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>danger of actually colliding with the parachute and fouling the

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>whole system. So jettison's the parachute, parachute flies off, and

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>then the rockets make a horizontal adjustment so that the

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>descent vehicle is not going to be in the same

0:28:55.720 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>path as the parachute. Uh. It eject the it detaches

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the the heat shield as well. Actually I think that

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>even detaches while the parachutes deployed. Uh. And there are

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>sensors on the bottom of the rover which can help

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>guide the whole system, so it lands in the best spot. Now,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they were aiming for the Gael Crater, which is was

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a crater that was created on Mars about three

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>billion years ago with a meteor impact, So they wanted

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to land the rover in there. So the the sensors

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom of the rover detect where the right

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>landing area is. The rockets position it properly and start

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the descent, continuing to slow that that the scent so

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're not plummeting to the surface. At about twenty

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>meters above the surface of the planet, the rover descends

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>on a on a set of cables from a crane

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>that's in that descent vehicle. So you've got a crane

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>essentially mounted on rockets lowering a one ton vehicle. The

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>cables I think we're about seven meters long, and so

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it would then the rockets would then slowly allowed this

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>entire thing to descend until the wheels of the rover

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>made contact with the Martian soil. At that point, the

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>bridles holding the cables to the rover were jettisoned, and

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>then the the the descent vehicle with the rockets would

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>then launch itself about four away to crash on the

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>surface of the planet so that it would not um

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>cause any problems to the rover because you don't want it.

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Tell just we've gently set the rover down. Oh and

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>then our descent vehicle landed on our rover. That's a bummer.

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>That would have been a bad thing. So the descent

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>vehicle went about four away and crash landed. Uh, and

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the rover was safe on the planet. And we found

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>out about it seven minutes after it happened. And everyone

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>did a little dance and cheered and jumped and hugged

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>each other. I don't think they did a little dance.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they did a big dance. They did do

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a big dance. And there are gifts out there that

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>show this that were very very popular. As soon I

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>mean like seconds after the footage at the Internet, there

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 1>were already memes about it. Yeah. Yeah, well, um, like

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think they were a little surprised, but

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in a in a positive way, Like they came up

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>with an excellent solution, but without ever you know, trying

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it in practice. Um, you know it on Mars. They

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>weren't certain, especially with their past success rate, whether it

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>would work for sure or not, or would it deliver

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the rover in excellent condition, which it did, so they

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>were they were very very happy about about that. And

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's something that you can't really test here on

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Earth because the conditions here on Earth are so different

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>from on Mars that even if you were to build

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>something that works well on on here on our planet,

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>you cannot be certain that the same thing is going

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to apply on Mars because the conditions are too different. Yeah,

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>so you know, it wasn't just engineered well on paper,

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it actually in practice did did very very well. And

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>there's quite a lot of equipment on on Curiosity as well.

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's seventeen cameras alone, uh, and most most

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of those are navigational and hazard cameras, but there is

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a mast. Uh. You know what my favorite piece of

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>equipment aboard the Curiosity is, or do I have to

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>ask what what? What is your favorite piece of equipment?

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a lazier, which the laser is used to concentrate

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a very focused beam of of light on rocks in

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the Martian soil, and UH they it does listen very

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>very short bursts, like five ninosecond long bursts, and after

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>about seventy bursts of this high powered, intense laser, it

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>starts to a blate or evaporate the rock that it's

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>focused on. And then what happens is a special camera,

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>actually three different cameras will get information from our three

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>different sensors will get information from a telescopic camera that

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>will analyze the plasma this rock gives off, and by

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>analyzing the plasma through UH spectroscopes, they can determine what

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>chemical elements made up the rock itself. So essentially, what

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you're doing is you're burning something. Looking at burning is

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>an oversimplification, but you're burning something, looking at the fumes

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it gives off, and based upon those you determine what

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the stuff is made of. The reason for this is

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>one so we can learn more about the composition of Mars,

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>but to also look for things that could be foundational

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>building blocks to support life. Now, curiosity is not looking

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>for evidence of life itself. It is not looking for

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>microscopic life because it doesn't have any equipment aboard the

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>rover itself capable of seeing things that that result Lucian.

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's not looking for evidence of microscopic life that's

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>currently there on Mars. It's really looking for all the

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>elements that would need to be in place for life

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to have at least one at one time been supported

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>on Mars. That, however, has not stopped all the other

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>memes that have gone around where there have been pictures

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>circulated from curiosity and of course uh these pictures of curiosities. Uh,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>from curiosity's point of view, across the surface of Mars

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>is it's big and flat. However, duty so far, the

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 1>life forms I have seen superimposed over that landscape on

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>social media include Marvin the Martian from this Q thirty

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>two Space modul tour from uh, the Looney Tunes cartoons, uh,

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the Muppets from uh that that that go yep yep up.

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And I did see a couple of days ago some

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>ad apts walking across the surface. So the empire is

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>apparently they're already um, very very amusing all terrain attack

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>transports or something like that. That's what it means. Yes, yes,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>So from Star Wars UM documentary Star Wars. Yeah, but

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, they there are several different cameras. They're they're

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>taking photos three d um. So the James Cameron contingent

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.439
<v Speaker 1>is there, black and white colorful avatars are running around

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of there. Yep, yep. Um. So basically they're they're doing

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of of imaging and analysis of the planet's surface. Um.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know they're it's it's pretty awesome to be

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>able to do this kind of work. Yeah, this is

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a this is an evolutionary step from what the previous

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>rovers we've seen up there, like Phoenix and Spirit and Opportunity,

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>where they were all very much geologic, uh, instruments, geological

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>instruments really, so the geological formation of Mars and it's

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>geological features. We have a bit more to say about

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the Curiosity project over on Mars, but I'm gonna go

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>get myself a Mars bar and you guys can take

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a quick break and listen to our sponsor. Curiosity is

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>more of like a fully fledged scientific laboratory that is

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>on wheels and moves very very slowly. Uh. It's got

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's got a lot of sophisticated equipment like you said,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>it has that mast that projects above the rover itself self.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Gun arm Um. You mentioned the KEM CAM, which is

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the laser. It's got a chemistry and mineralogy experiment or

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>instrument called KEMEN. They remember we talked about the different

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>parts of the Space Shuttle group. They love love love acronyms.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So the CAM in instrument looks at minerals to identify

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>whether water could have been there. Then there's the rover

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Environmental Environmental Monitoring Station or MS, which will give you

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the weather report. Yes it's not raining again. Uh. There

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>there's so much aboard and um. One of the other

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 1>things I think has been really remarkable about the past

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 1>few missions to Mars is NASA's ability to communicate this

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>information in a way that is really exciting to people

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>who otherwise might not really have cared that much. The

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>space exploration history in the in the entire world has

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>really gone through sort of a roller coaster of as

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>far as the public interest is concerned, right, because you

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>had the space race for the Moon, which was politically motivated,

0:37:55.440 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was that was really all a few old,

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>not literally but metaphorically by the political opposition of the

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>United States and the Soviet Union, And so once we

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>landed men on the Moon and got them back safely, uh,

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the political uh motivation to push people out into space

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>really diminished, which is part of the reason why we

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't start immediately looking at Mars as being the next step,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the excitement and enthusiasm and funding

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>had gone away because we already achieved this other amazing

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and insanely amazing goal of landing people on the Moon. Um. Then,

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like we had the Space Shuttle era, which started off

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with incredible interest. I mean, it was this amazing program,

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>but then Shuttle mission after Shuttle mission, people started to

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>think of it more as something that just happens and

0:38:55.440 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>less as something amazing and special because it was you know,

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like, oh, yeah, another Shuttle mission is

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>going up, which is, when you think about it, that's

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a crazy, crazy thing to just take for granted because

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the amount of work it takes to get people into

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>space is phenomenal. But it did happen. Uh, once we

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>started sending missions to Mars and have them be a success,

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, there were science fans who really thought was interesting,

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>but the general public, I don't know that necessarily cut

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 1>their attention. I think what really turned things around was

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>when NASA started to leverage social media and began to

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>use social media to to communicate scientific facts, figures, discoveries

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to the general public. That got people excited, and beyond that,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they began to give almost a personality to some of

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the equipment they sent out. That's that's funny. I don't

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>know if Jonathan heard this. This morning, UM, as I

0:39:55.640 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 1>was driving to the train station to come in for

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, I was listening to National Public Radio NPR

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States, and there was an interview

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>UM with Veronica McGregor now Veronica McGregor. She was the

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>person who was in charge of updating a Twitter account

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:19.959
<v Speaker 1>for the Phoenix Mars Rover, and the Phoenix Mars Rover

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting an enormous number of fans following it,

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and it was able to know through the Phoenix Twitter feed,

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>NASA was able to communicate a lot of interesting scientific information.

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>But Veronica went a little step further and gave the

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix sort of again a personality. And I'll never forget.

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember I followed the Phoenix rover and

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>it was truly an emotional moment. When the second to

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>last tweet the Phoenix sent out during its official mission

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>was It's very unlikely I'll wake up next spring, but

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>if I do, I'll call home. Go luck with your project.

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And people thought about that, like, there's this little robot

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>all alone, not really all alone. There are other robots

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>on Mars too, but they're really far away. So more

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>or less, there's this little robot all alone on the

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>surface of this planet, uh, you know, miles and miles

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and miles away from Earth, and it is doing science

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>for us, and it's doing it selflessly, and it's about

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to die because it's solar circuits aren't going to get

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>enough juice to keep it going, and there's and by

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the time it comes out of that that essentially Martian Winter,

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better term, by the time it

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>comes out, it will not be able to reboot it

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>system and it will be a dead piece of technology.

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 1>It impacted people, I mean, people got teary eyed over

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the idea because they, yeah, people had had humanized this

0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>inanimate well animated but on a live object and has

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>no actual feelings or personality. But Veronica had really imbued

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing with that kind of sense of purpose and

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and personality that people identified with, and it made a

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>powerful statement and I think people connected to the space

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>mission in a way they hadn't in many years. And

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>NASA has continued that trend. And uh the last Twitter

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>post it posted was all in binary and it's spelled

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>out triumph all making a note here. Huge success. Well,

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>they talked to Veronica McGregor this morning. She is the

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 1>social media manager UM and is at it again. There

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:44.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a team of three women who, according to NPR,

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>who work on the Curiosity rovers Twitter account, which has

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>according to this uh UM Chicago Tribune, I couldn't remember

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Veronica's last name, so I looked it up and and

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>this article posted earlier today. As of right now, more

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>than eight hundred thousand followers UM already for Curiosity, so

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 1>they will be following through the mission just in case

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you're curious. According to Veronica McGregor, the Curiosity as as

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>she it has a female, she said. According to them,

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they had sort of talked about it and they they

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>feel they get this feeling that it's a her. So

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you go girl, it's interesting. But well,

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>if if you put yourself in the shoes of someone

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>who is talking about this. Um, you know you you

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to make a personality as you're building

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>your personality, like you know what, I think, I think

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a woman, but I do. I do remember listening

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to or watching videos of the engineers talked about the

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Curiosity and they referred to the entire vehicle as a she,

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>which at the time I didn't think unusual because I

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like the votes ships not boats. Well, some boats I

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>think of. I think of ships or hurricanes. Um, the Enterprise, Yeah,

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the Star Trek, that's as she. Well. People have talked

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>about the expense of the mission, and I'm sure there

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 1>were people who are going, why on Earth were Mars?

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you care if it's a male or a female? Were?

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Over All, these things personalize it somewhat, and they do

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 1>make it more accessible to us, and they also get

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>us inspired to to try new things, to find ways

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to grow better crops or pure diseases, or launch the

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>next mission to space. They make us want to try

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>something that we haven't been able to do before, and

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it's valuable. The the effects that come out of this

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>are across so many different disciplines, so not only one.

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 1>We're learning about Mars. Two, we're learning more about our

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>solar system. Three, we're learning more about the Earth as

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>we learn what things are similar versus dissimilar between Mars

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and Earth. And and go ahead. Four we're inspiring future

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>generations of scientists and engineers because this is genuinely exciting

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and people, little kids will think that is amazing. Look

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>at what can be accomplished. I want to do that.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>And and five you're promoting science in general to the

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>general public. And again, you know, promoting science, I think

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>it's an incredibly important thing. It's not the easiest thing

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>in the world to do, especially you know, some scientists

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>are so focused on their field they may not be

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the best at communicating that that passion and enthusiasm to

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 1>the general public. Even though they possess it themselves, they

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>might not be able to communicate it effectively. So bridging

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that gap is really important so that the public understands

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>why this is important and gets excited. It also helps

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with funding. Um it might inspire the next private company

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to try and go into something that they wouldn't have

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>done before. So yeah, the the this is really a

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>true domino effect, right. It's amazing the sort of stuff

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>that can come out of a mission like this that

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>may not even be obvious at first glance. Yep, and

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.439
<v Speaker 1>eventually we're gonna have to get off this rock. Well yeah,

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and we should mention also. NASA currently only has one

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>other Mars mission planned, which is a launch in of

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution um SO or MAVEN

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this name of that, and don't really have a creative

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 1>acronym for that. I'm who would have thunk it. Maven's

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 1>purpose is to study the atmosphere of Mars. So again,

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the rovers we are sending are mostly looking at the

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>composition of the soil and the geological formations that are

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>on Mars, and to really look at the various layers

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that someone of the reasons why we landed uh, the

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>curiosity of a crater is because they can look at

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>different layers on the surface of Mars and see how

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>it's how it has changed over time. But this will

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>be more to look at the atmosphere. We do not

0:46:56.520 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>have any manned missions to Mars planned, at least not

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 1>NASA UM and there are other nations in the world

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that are also planning missions to Mars. NASA has only

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>got the one and then after that, who knows. Um,

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.879
<v Speaker 1>we don't have any planned missions to Mars. There are

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>some companies. There are some companies that have talked about it, uh,

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and some of the plans are kind of insane. But

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>if you really want to hear a pretty crazy idea

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>about landing on Mars, my favorite is the first one

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that I could come across, the first published um plan

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>or calculation of what it would take to to send

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a manned mission to Mars, and it comes from Verna Magnus,

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Maximilian Friar von Brown or Verna von Brown as most

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>people would know, who was a rocket scientist rocket scientists

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>during World War Two built rockets for the Germans. After

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the end of World War Two, the United States UM

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>essentially took him and put him to work for the

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>U S Rocket program. Uh, it was That's a political

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>story that is fascinating, and you should all write to

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff you missed in history class to talk about that. Actually,

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that'd be a fascinat fascinating podcast. But anyway, Van Brown

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>first made rockets for the Germans and then began to

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>make rockets for the United States. And one of the

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>things he thought of back in nineteen was what it

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>would take to send a manned mission to Mars. It

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't published till nineteen fifty two. Eventually became an appendix

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in a novel he wrote, which was a fictional account

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>of what that mission would be like. The novel, from

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:40.879
<v Speaker 1>what I understand, is not UM terribly good, I did

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>not publish until two thousand and six. But anyway, in

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>his in his version, it was going to be a

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>ten spacecraft mission where these ten spacecrafts would carry about

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:58.919
<v Speaker 1>seventy crew members total, and the spacecraft would go into

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>orbit around Ours and then the mission the the ground

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 1>mission crews would detach from the orbiting UM spacecraft in

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 1>winged vehicles that had skis at the bottom of them

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and would land at the polar caps on Mars. The

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>thought being that the polar caps would be flat and

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>so that would be the best place to land. Then

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they would take Mars crawlers to the equator on Mars,

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>which would take about eighty days I think, and then

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 1>build base camp there and then would come back to

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Earth when the those orbits would line up properly. Again.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>So that was his idea. UM didn't happen. It was

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>It was an incredibly um Uh, I don't know difficult,

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I have difficult project. I mean it would have. It

0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 1>would have been much harder than anything else we have

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 1>attempted so far. So but that that was my favorite

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of the proposed Martian expeditions, although there are some other

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 1>ones there's been. There was one that was more like

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a reality television show, um which was a private endeavor

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and I won't go into it, but it did sound

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:22.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy. So there have been some interesting proposals for

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>trips to Mars. Mostly it looks like for the foreseeable

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>future it's going to be unmanned missions from most of

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the world unless some crazy person with lots of money

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>gets behind it and and and does what we think

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>is think of as the impossible, which after the Curiosity

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>ro overlanding, I'm not sure my my definition of the

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 1>impossible needs to be adjusted. It was certainly not a

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>mission impossible, that's true. That wraps up this classic episode

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of text stuff. I hope you guys enjoyed it. It

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 1>was fun to revisit this. I remember actually following the

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>progress of the Curiosity as it was happening, or really,

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, several minutes after it had happened because of

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the communications delay between Mars and Earth, and it was

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>absolutely thrilling. I always find anything to do with space

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and space exploration to be really interesting and exciting, pushing

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>back the boundaries of our ignorance, incredible engineering achievement of

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>getting stuff into space. So I hope you guys enjoyed

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