Speaker 1: On this episode of This League, we talk about the
Speaker 1: most disappointing team of twenty twenty one, the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 1: No matter how hot the Utah Jazz get, why they
Speaker 1: still have a shitload to prove, the sneaky reason that
Speaker 1: no one's playing defense this year, and we answer a
Speaker 1: bunch more listener dms so without further ado, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: what a great fade out, Such a solid fade out.
Speaker 1: Before we get started today, let me just say this
Speaker 1: for everyone who watched the game last night, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the Nets Wizards game. The Russell Westbrook segment is coming.
Speaker 1: It's I know he's healthy for the first time in
Speaker 1: forever and he's got his bounce back. But I want
Speaker 1: to take my time on this segment. I didn't have
Speaker 1: enough time to get it done. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: wait till Friday, because do I ever have lots of
Speaker 1: things to say. So let's get into really what I
Speaker 1: want to talk about, which is this.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm tired of hearing?
Speaker 3: Oh, that Giannis is a top five MVP candidate, that
Speaker 3: the Bucks are favorite to win the East, maybe that
Speaker 3: they have an eighty three percent chance to win the
Speaker 3: NBA time.
Speaker 1: I mean that.
Speaker 2: Percentage was crazy.
Speaker 1: When the when ESPN put that out horrible, I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean they're I mean, they're not gonna win the
Speaker 1: first round.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean just eighty three percent a wild number.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a bubble year there was.
Speaker 1: That was just an insane But yes, I am tired
Speaker 1: of hearing that, obviously, But that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: What I am talking about is Luca and the MAVs.
Speaker 1: How many times? How many goddamn times am I gonna
Speaker 1: have to hear Luca drops thirty, he balls out these
Speaker 1: crazy stats.
Speaker 2: And the MAVs lose. In a MAVs loss, Luca goes
Speaker 2: off the ship is gross. It is.
Speaker 1: He's top five in the MVP race, he's averaging almost
Speaker 1: a triple double. He's averaging thirty nine and nine, and
Speaker 1: they're thirteenth in the Western Conference. And it's concerning. It's
Speaker 1: not like they're just losing in a in the last
Speaker 1: minute fashion. Sometimes they go down twenty and five minutes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they blow a twenty point lead. The only thing
Speaker 1: that's a constant with these MAVs games is that Luca
Speaker 1: goes off and he's gassed.
Speaker 2: And can't finish.
Speaker 1: He can't be Superman for the entire thirty six forty minutes.
Speaker 1: The only team that they've beaten, of note is that
Speaker 1: one fifty point game against the Clippers, and Lord knows
Speaker 1: Luca was.
Speaker 2: Fresh in that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no Kawhi either.
Speaker 1: No Kawhi and the game was over before it even started.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks are eight and twelve. They've lost eight
Speaker 1: of their last ten. I mean, come on, big question,
Speaker 1: how did they get here? Bigger question? Why were their
Speaker 1: expectations so high coming in?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: How did they become a team that everyone thought was
Speaker 1: gonna lead the West?
Speaker 2: I had listeners.
Speaker 1: Hitting me up like Trista, how much better did the
Speaker 1: MAVs get with all this three and D that they've added?
Speaker 2: And I believe my answer in the preseason was like,
Speaker 2: did they get three and D?
Speaker 1: Help?
Speaker 2: I don't remember them doing that. I don't remember adding
Speaker 2: those pieces.
Speaker 1: Josh richards Are they thinking of Josh Richardson? I was
Speaker 1: prepping for this segment and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I saw a news story from a month ago,
Speaker 1: and the news story said this, Dallas Mavericks, why they
Speaker 1: crushed the off season Dallas Mavericks are in a position
Speaker 1: to contend.
Speaker 2: Sits.
Speaker 3: Okay, so here's what this Big Jay had to say
Speaker 3: about the MAVs. The acquisition of Josh Richardson is going
Speaker 3: to do wonders for this team. No, Richardson gives the
Speaker 3: MAVs a gritty and raunchy edge that simply wasn't there
Speaker 3: a season ago. While losing Seth Curry hurts, the Mavericks
Speaker 3: still have all kinds of scoring throughout their rotation. And
Speaker 3: while he's unproven, did add Tyrell Terry in the draft
Speaker 3: to replace some of that dead eye marksmanship from the
Speaker 3: three point line.
Speaker 1: Tyrel Terry m dead eye marksman. He's averaging one point.
Speaker 1: That writer also said this that Josh Richardson could d
Speaker 1: up Kawhi. Imagine thinking in any universe that Josh Richardson
Speaker 1: could put clamps on Kawhi Leonard. Imagine thinking you could
Speaker 1: compete against the Clippers. The reason that you got Josh
Speaker 1: Richardson was so that you could beat the.
Speaker 2: Clippers in the first round.
Speaker 1: You're you're not even gonna get one game off the
Speaker 1: Clippers now that they have Sir Jabaka yeah and Nick two.
Speaker 2: Let's be real, Let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 2: Spade is spade.
Speaker 1: This roster, this MAV's roster is not good. Look at
Speaker 1: that roster from start to finish. Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson
Speaker 1: is your third option. Tim Hardaway Junior is your fourth option.
Speaker 2: Stunning.
Speaker 1: It's not even like they were great last year and
Speaker 1: then they just lost pieces. The only guy they lost
Speaker 1: was Seth Curry. And I'm not trying to slander Seth Curry,
Speaker 1: but he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not the reason that you're underperforming.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not a team killer.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's not like, oh, I'm building around Seth Curry.
Speaker 2: No one ever has said that. No one.
Speaker 1: They might have mispronounced Steth Curry, but not about Seth Curry.
Speaker 1: Luca has covered up how bad this team has been.
Speaker 1: Let's spit facts for a second. They were three and
Speaker 1: five in the bubble last year in the regular season,
Speaker 1: they were two and four in the playoffs, and everyone
Speaker 1: was sucking their dick coming into this season and they
Speaker 1: didn't get better because of Josh Richardson. Josh Richardson's the
Speaker 1: reason you're gonna be a contender.
Speaker 3: Luca made that cool three in the bubble be serious.
Speaker 1: He had that step back, and everyone's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And like those two wins that the Clippers, that the
Speaker 1: MAVs got over the Clippers, those weren't like astounding wins.
Speaker 1: Those were last second wins. Yeah, so I don't understand
Speaker 1: it whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Josh Richardson.
Speaker 1: The only reason that Josh Richardson is who he is
Speaker 1: and everybody thinks he's so good is because he played
Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat, and Miami Heat is the reason
Speaker 1: that he was playing. Well, you saw what he did
Speaker 1: when he was on the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Not much,
Speaker 1: or they wouldn't have gotten rid of him. They should
Speaker 1: have tried to go get Tobias Harris, even Lucas, like
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I played it Europe my whole life,
Speaker 1: and I've never played with lazier people that I'm playing
Speaker 1: with right now, Like this is crazy, Like Europe is
Speaker 1: the king and queen of like work life balance.
Speaker 2: They're all his.
Speaker 1: He's like, my teammates are normally on the beaches of
Speaker 1: the Adriatic Sea, and at least they cared whether we won.
Speaker 1: Here's what Luca had to say after their last loss by.
Speaker 3: Way y'all's play and effort tonight terrible.
Speaker 4: Can you elaborate?
Speaker 5: There's really not much to say. I never felt like this,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna do something because this is not looking good,
Speaker 5: and you know, we gotta step up and you know,
Speaker 5: just talk to each other and play way better than this.
Speaker 1: It's mostly after yikes, I've never felt like this. It's
Speaker 1: not looking good. It's mostly effort. And later on in
Speaker 1: the next part of the interview, he says, it looks
Speaker 1: like we don't even care if we should win or not.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't get any worse than that.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're paid, don't play games to win them,
Speaker 1: and you just don't care whatsoever. A twenty one year
Speaker 1: old is like, yo, what's up? Are you guys wanting
Speaker 1: to compete? Like? Yo, compete? Compete? Play basketball? This is
Speaker 1: not a winning culture. And then Christat said something.
Speaker 2: What did he say? Postgames?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Here, I've got it. He said, we don't have
Speaker 3: that chemistry yet that we're looking for. We don't have
Speaker 3: our roles clear, we're just kind of out there playing.
Speaker 3: We're a talented group. But until we have everybody playing
Speaker 3: together and having also some time off the court, I
Speaker 3: think we won't have that chemistry.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, who who is we? Who Christas is acting
Speaker 1: like it's not him? Until we have everyone playing together,
Speaker 1: we won't have that chemistry. Hey, Zinger, you are the
Speaker 1: one that's not healthy. You are the one that tore
Speaker 1: your ACL and had to miss multiple seasons to recover.
Speaker 1: You are the one that sticks out, sits out back
Speaker 1: to back games for maintenance reasons.
Speaker 2: You cannot build chemistry from the bench.
Speaker 1: No, you cannot, And no one's gonna want to hang
Speaker 1: out with you if you don't play games with them.
Speaker 1: So off, Oh, when we play off, when we're off
Speaker 1: the court, Like we're gonna build chemistry off the court too,
Speaker 1: Like you're always off the court, right.
Speaker 2: You have to play together and not half the time.
Speaker 1: You have to play all the time. You have to
Speaker 1: develop a rhythm in those big moments in order to
Speaker 1: feel good when those big moments come again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Chris Steps has played in about half of
Speaker 3: their games this year.
Speaker 1: And what's wild about that is that they are three
Speaker 1: and six with him in the lineup.
Speaker 2: This thirteen team in the Western.
Speaker 1: Conference is statistically better when he's not around. And this
Speaker 1: is a roster that he's the second best guy on
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, he's actually uh, he's actually playing in
Speaker 3: less percentage of games in Dallas than he did when
Speaker 3: he was on the Knicks, like seventy five for the
Speaker 3: next seventy three percent for Dallas.
Speaker 2: I mean it's brutal.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what the Dallas Mavericks were anticipating
Speaker 1: when they when they got Christabs Porzingis. So let me
Speaker 1: let me fill you in Mark Cuban on a little secret.
Speaker 2: Porzingis isn't good anymore. He's not good. He's brittle.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be good anymore because he's never going
Speaker 1: to be healthy anymore.
Speaker 2: That's just facts.
Speaker 1: His prior injuries make him completely immobile, and then on
Speaker 1: top of that, he still needs to miss time just
Speaker 1: to maintain where he's at.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. Have you watched him out there playing defense?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, he's stood as board.
Speaker 1: Dude, It's like his feet are stuck to the court.
Speaker 1: He just gets cooked, absolutely cooked, because he can't move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're seven feet tall with ligament issues and you're underweight,
Speaker 1: and the facts are you are maxed out at like
Speaker 1: forty games a year, and it's not like you're.
Speaker 2: A cheap player.
Speaker 1: The mass traded two first rounders and some table scraps
Speaker 1: to the Knicks for Porzingis, and then they had to
Speaker 1: sign him with the super Max for one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they also took on Tim Hardaway's crazy deal
Speaker 3: that they're still paying. I think he's making like seventeen
Speaker 3: million this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you lose the trade? James Dolan?
Speaker 1: Yikes, This gets worse and worse the more I think
Speaker 1: about it. That's like getting spotted two strokes a hole
Speaker 1: the Charles Barkley in a match, straight up and still
Speaker 1: losing to this dude.
Speaker 2: It's impossible. It's impossible.
Speaker 1: How long is it gonna be before Luca either breaks
Speaker 1: down because he's the number one, number two and number
Speaker 1: three option and you know he's a hard rock.
Speaker 2: You know he's gonna do everything that.
Speaker 1: He can to keep them in games, and then now
Speaker 1: he's got injuries.
Speaker 2: That's tough.
Speaker 1: How long until Lukes like, uh, I don't really wanna
Speaker 1: be here anymore. Dallas is fine, but like Milwaukee's not
Speaker 1: that cold in the winter. I like Walt Disney World
Speaker 1: just fine, Like Orlando seems good to me anywhere else,
Speaker 1: but here you're not getting me any help. This dude
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be my big man one can't guard
Speaker 1: anyone and he's barely even around. I do not think
Speaker 1: that the MAVs have played this correctly. They think that
Speaker 1: they have a European who's got the patience of Dirk Novitzky,
Speaker 1: and I promise you they do not.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna wait eighteen years to get a ring.
Speaker 1: No way, prediction. Don't ratio me for this. I know
Speaker 1: that that's what Twitter and TikTok even wants to do. Now,
Speaker 1: this MAVs team might just fuck around and miss the
Speaker 1: playoffs all together.
Speaker 2: There's a little known fact.
Speaker 1: I am a world class musher, meaning every time I
Speaker 1: get excited about a bet or a team, they stumble.
Speaker 1: I'm not a bad gambler per se. But the games
Speaker 1: that I consider the lock of the Century aka Utah
Speaker 1: Jazz minus two and a half against the Denver Nuggets,
Speaker 1: that is when I take an ol that could be
Speaker 1: said about segments two. As soon as I create a
Speaker 1: segment like, oh my god, this team is sick. They
Speaker 1: do what they did if they have the game before
Speaker 1: I record bet everything on the other team that they're playing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was juiced on playing and writing about
Speaker 1: how the Jazz were built to contend eleven straight wins.
Speaker 1: Conley underrated playing like an MVP, locking guys down, being
Speaker 1: a playmaker like you read about go Bear earning every penny.
Speaker 1: Holy moly, Jordan Clarkson playing like the second coming of
Speaker 1: Lou Williams Woo.
Speaker 3: I was like, huh, yeah, they're eleven and one against
Speaker 3: the spread in their last twelve. They're just like killing people.
Speaker 3: I didn't bet them on yesterday, just some days. I've
Speaker 3: just tried to get away from basketball betting because I
Speaker 3: do too much during the week. But yeah, I gave
Speaker 3: when they played the Hawks, I gave that out as
Speaker 3: a lock and they won.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: So I unfortunately bet the first half and the full game,
Speaker 1: and both times I got fucked. So of course, in
Speaker 1: Trista Mush fashion, the Jazz went out and gave up
Speaker 1: seventy nine points in the first half to the Nuggets
Speaker 1: nine forty three in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Just so bad, just so so bad. How does that
Speaker 2: even happen? I didn't.
Speaker 1: That was not what I anticipated when I called them.
Speaker 1: They messed my entire parlay up them and the Wizards
Speaker 1: tough number one in the West, and then pow clunk.
Speaker 2: Just terrible. Anyway, a bad game is a bad game.
Speaker 1: And this is of course not an Exceus and O's
Speaker 1: podcast that was more stats and numbers than probably go
Speaker 1: ever here. But just know that I'm aware of this atrocity.
Speaker 1: I still want to say things. We've had the Daughtava
Speaker 1: Mitchell talk the world has, but nothing really is going
Speaker 1: to change my mind about the long term chances. Even
Speaker 1: when I was writing this, in my mind like okay,
Speaker 1: what am I going to say about the Jazz, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're still built to contend. This is just a
Speaker 2: one game thing. I admit it.
Speaker 1: I was on the Great Jazz gravy train. When a
Speaker 1: team's hot, they're hot. I like winning money. I get excited,
Speaker 1: and you know how recency bias goes. We've talked about
Speaker 1: this before. When a team's hot, you're like, damn, they
Speaker 1: could beat anyone. But nothing can change my heart. And
Speaker 1: that Coldwater game was perfect because I remember what I
Speaker 1: know to be true, which is when this team goes cold,
Speaker 1: it spreads like the black plague. Everyone everyone is cold
Speaker 1: at once. Spider three for twelve, it's not great. Conley
Speaker 1: two for ten, Clarkson four for thirteen. People, listen up.
Speaker 1: Listen up, you little provo Utah residents.
Speaker 2: This is what I've told you multiple times about the Jazz.
Speaker 1: It's not marginalization, Kira. When this team goes cold, they
Speaker 1: go ice.
Speaker 2: Cold, ice cold.
Speaker 1: They are about as outgorithm as you would imagine someone
Speaker 1: from Utah to beat, just offbeat, clapping off the off
Speaker 1: the snare just unaware of how dancing works, like a
Speaker 1: team that you would expect to be called the Jazz
Speaker 1: from Utah, just like totally not in sync with music.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not usually one game.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna take the other side of these bets
Speaker 1: for the next two or three. Yeah, and guess what
Speaker 1: that is a bad recipe for success in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Let's say they finished third in the West.
Speaker 1: That's not a stretch. We know it's probably gonna be Lakers',
Speaker 1: probably gonna be Clippers. Right, So say they finished third
Speaker 1: and they've got to face the sixth seed. Who could
Speaker 1: that be? Oh uh, oh, Phoenix Suns. Your team just
Speaker 1: could be hate that matchup. Oh yeah, Tahker, Ayton, Chris Paul,
Speaker 1: Michel Bridges, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: That's a bad matchup, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, horrible?
Speaker 2: I mean, these dudes are gonna cook them.
Speaker 3: DeAndre Ayton is as sending. People may not be aware
Speaker 3: of it, but he's His last ten games have been special.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for the Aight and go Bear matchup.
Speaker 3: Me too?
Speaker 2: Huh yikes. Portland Trail Blazers could be another team sneaky
Speaker 2: game time bye bye, bye bye. I don't care. If
Speaker 2: you have go Beart, let him have fifty. I don't care.
Speaker 2: Nirk will be back by then, and it's Canner's sneaky even.
Speaker 1: Though least likely scenario is the Golden State Warrior. Now,
Speaker 1: let's not act like that's a walk in the park.
Speaker 1: These dudes are certified. They've played in big games before.
Speaker 1: You don't think Steph Curry can and Draymond can give
Speaker 1: a little raw ross speech.
Speaker 2: To get these boys up. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know that's probably not what's gonna be the case, right,
Speaker 1: But do I think that they would be? Just? No?
Speaker 2: But can they? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who's more likely to go ice cold than your mind?
Speaker 1: Steph Curry or Conley and Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty easy.
Speaker 1: That's pretty easy. This is not a Spider Haterrade podcast.
Speaker 1: But eleven games in a row in the regular season
Speaker 1: is not gonna make me change my mind, folks, it's
Speaker 1: just not. I'm happy for Mike Conley. He's got resurrecting
Speaker 1: his career. Nice guy, having an MVP like season, even
Speaker 1: even averaging seventeen It's like, yo, Mike Conley is the
Speaker 1: reason that the Utah Jazz are winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been awesome.
Speaker 1: Until this team proves to me that they're not gonna
Speaker 1: choke away a three to one lead. I don't care
Speaker 1: how how many games in a row they win. I
Speaker 1: am still super skip thank God for those cold water games,
Speaker 1: or I might have lost my damn mind and says
Speaker 1: some shit I might regret. So the song coming into
Speaker 1: this segment is all about being in your feelings. You
Speaker 1: know what I love about basketball in general how close
Speaker 1: the crowd is to the players. That is that does
Speaker 1: something to the ego of the player. It's not like football.
Speaker 1: You're You're as close as I am to you right
Speaker 1: now if you're court side, sometimes closer.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're like on you. They fall on you when.
Speaker 1: You're ten fifteen feet away from some random fan court side,
Speaker 1: and you get embarrassed by your opponent. Imagine this, I
Speaker 1: thought he thought, sitting there with their low cut top
Speaker 1: on body con dress, oily tan legs, looking at you
Speaker 1: like she wants to give you the business boy.
Speaker 2: And you're like, yes, I'm gonna get her number after
Speaker 2: the game. Mm.
Speaker 1: She's ignoring her man and then right next to her
Speaker 1: you get posterized. What do you think that cocktail does
Speaker 1: to the male ego? Does something right? Yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 1: more embarrassing than getting embarrassed in front of someone that
Speaker 1: you want to have sex with.
Speaker 3: Facts.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, just nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are one of the people that she came
Speaker 1: to watch perform, and then you got someone's nuts on
Speaker 1: your face. You couldn't perform. It was like you needed
Speaker 1: viagra to do your job. Someone's gotta be the one
Speaker 1: with the nuts on their face and that was you.
Speaker 1: And you think you're gonna be able to smash after that,
Speaker 1: you better do something to reply and put that in
Speaker 1: her mind.
Speaker 2: With the recency bias, something happens. You know what it does?
Speaker 1: It makes you want to compete effort, It makes you
Speaker 1: want to compete, to ball out, to play hard, to
Speaker 1: not get embarrassed in front of people that you visually
Speaker 1: see who paid money to see you. You to avoid
Speaker 1: them getting up right in front of you and walking
Speaker 1: out the door.
Speaker 2: Because you suck the.
Speaker 1: Booze, the screams, the disappointment, the judgment that plays into
Speaker 1: how you play basketball. I swear on my life that's
Speaker 1: how it is. That's how different it is than the NFL.
Speaker 1: They're right there. And earlier this season in the NFL season,
Speaker 1: I sat down with soon to be Pro bowler Jesse Bates,
Speaker 1: the third who plays for the Cincinnati Bengals safety, and
Speaker 1: I asked them what it was like to play with
Speaker 1: no crowds in the season, and this is what he said,
Speaker 1: To see the crowd noise has impacted.
Speaker 4: It for you, yeah, a little bit. I think without
Speaker 4: the fans, it kind of feels like a scrimmage. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I still get that that hype, that feeling. I never
Speaker 4: take that for granted, but uh yeah, I like. I
Speaker 4: like when the fans are screaming and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: On a big play, it's kind of hard to celebrate.
Speaker 4: That's that's probably the hardest thing is you know, you
Speaker 4: make a play. I'm looking up at the stands and
Speaker 4: I see cutouts and I'm like, yeah, go to the cutout.
Speaker 1: So it was cool.
Speaker 4: It was cool to have some fans at home last
Speaker 4: week against the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: What about with hard counts and stuff that you can hear,
Speaker 1: is it does that make Does that.
Speaker 2: Make it difficult for me?
Speaker 4: I mean I'm not really down there in the box
Speaker 4: as much, so I'm not really hearing the staff count
Speaker 4: or what they're saying up there. But yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 4: for the linebackers it's a lot easier. I mean even
Speaker 4: for quarterbacks, it's a lot easier for them to hear
Speaker 4: what we're saying as well. So yeah, that's gonna play
Speaker 4: a huge factor for sure.
Speaker 1: Who do you think the lack of crowd noise benefits most,
Speaker 1: Like which side of the ball or what position?
Speaker 4: I would say the offensive alignment? You think about, you know,
Speaker 4: when you're on the road, you have to use the
Speaker 4: silent count because it's so loud, and now instead they
Speaker 4: can actually hear the quarterbacks and the dns. That usually
Speaker 4: how they get their you know, their get off. It's
Speaker 4: a lot better because the old linement has to look
Speaker 4: at the ball. Now they can just really look at
Speaker 4: them and set and really hear the snap count. So
Speaker 4: I think that's who really benefits from it. And I've
Speaker 4: heard that from our alignment and the other alignments on
Speaker 4: other teams that that's what's gonna benefit them this year.
Speaker 1: So even the NFL is affected by the lack of
Speaker 1: crowds and they're wearing helmets, they're two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: feet away at.
Speaker 2: Minimum from human beings that judge them.
Speaker 1: The human beings that are judging them don't even know
Speaker 1: what they look like most of the time.
Speaker 2: They can see them grocery store.
Speaker 1: Imagine you know, you're gonna see that person at the
Speaker 1: grocery store, no.
Speaker 2: Mask on, and they're gonna be like, ugh.
Speaker 1: Imagine Imagine how the lack of crowds affects the NBA
Speaker 1: A lot, a lot, a lot. That's the human element
Speaker 1: of the crowd. The human element of the crowd is
Speaker 1: what makes basketball. So that to me is why this
Speaker 1: season is different than any other season. That to me
Speaker 1: is why you see guys like the MAVs doing nothing.
Speaker 1: This is different than any year, including last year. Their
Speaker 1: entire regular season is now like aau that fucking sucks.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Or a scrimmage between opposing teams, just light touch, just
Speaker 1: walking the ball up the court, walking around screens.
Speaker 2: That's you, Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 1: This is why the Nets Wizards can hit the over
Speaker 1: with eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, no matter
Speaker 1: what the number was. The over under on last night's
Speaker 1: game was two forty two. They almost hit three hundred
Speaker 1: last night Marty to ninety five ye two ninety five.
Speaker 2: Gross.
Speaker 1: No defense, no urgency to play defense, No crowds to
Speaker 1: hold them accountable for.
Speaker 2: Not playing said defense. No one chanting.
Speaker 1: Boom, you suck, you're trash.
Speaker 2: My son hates you. Yikes right, No one be like
Speaker 2: defence de fence to remind you yo d up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way it feels like playing in an
Speaker 3: actual NBA game. There's no way, Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I don't care how many little screens someone's zooming in
Speaker 1: they see you clap, That does not matter. You can't
Speaker 1: really see them, they can't really interact with you. I
Speaker 1: saw a stat. This is gonna be an insane stat.
Speaker 1: You're not even believe this. The Clippers have shot right
Speaker 1: around seven hundred threes this year, and six hundred of
Speaker 1: those threes were uncontested.
Speaker 3: That doesn't even sound real. Way there, six hundred.
Speaker 1: Hundred of the seven hundred of the Clippers threes were uncontested.
Speaker 1: Either that means we don't think you can shoot, or
Speaker 1: we don't want to guard shooters. That doesn't seem real,
Speaker 1: But neither did the Clippers losing by fifty, which actually
Speaker 1: I think adds to the point, which is that when
Speaker 1: teams go down big, they just lay down. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck it. They don't even try to come back most
Speaker 1: of the time. God blessed the Wizards for coming back.
Speaker 1: In last night's game, God bless them and Bradley Beal.
Speaker 1: You have to see the highlights.
Speaker 2: He was fed up. He was throwing the ball. It
Speaker 2: was bad. He looked like he was Him and Katie
Speaker 2: were gonna catch hands.
Speaker 3: Oh why why do.
Speaker 2: You see teams lay down? Because they are not embarrassed.
Speaker 1: No one is in the gym to look at them
Speaker 1: with disgust like uugh ugh. I have to me a
Speaker 1: brilliant idea for a solution. It's a little unorthodox and
Speaker 1: you may not like it.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: I think you'd give all the olds who have the
Speaker 1: vaccines in their blood free court side tickets to the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: those salty elderly men and women would love nothing more
Speaker 1: than to boo and hiss Kyrie Irving for all of
Speaker 1: his antics, all of his dribbling. They're like, boo, where's
Speaker 1: Bob coozyoz? Old people, they have no patience for this bullshit,
Speaker 1: No way. They're already in a bad mood when they
Speaker 1: wake up. They're in pain. They don't like to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Their joints are tight and painful. Ailments of plenty. Even
Speaker 1: perfect basketball would put piss them off. This new school
Speaker 1: game in person. I mean, they've got to be livid, right.
Speaker 1: They are used to sixty five sixty NBA games where
Speaker 1: it's like two handed set shots and underhanded free throws.
Speaker 1: Dunks aren't allowed this game. Boom booo, they've got their
Speaker 1: cane clacking. This might be the thing that fixes things
Speaker 1: or another idea. Here's another idea. Give the vaccines to
Speaker 1: the thoughts first, Give them out to.
Speaker 2: The thirty thoughts. Put them on the court.
Speaker 1: Licking their collegen filled lips like oh yeah, they're low
Speaker 1: cat tops, or jiggling giving them the fuck you eyes.
Speaker 1: That might encourage these players that I don't know, Compete,
Speaker 1: do your job, play some defense, and then, maybe, just maybe,
Speaker 1: because sex is the ultimate motivator, we might finally see
Speaker 1: some real basketball.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some list ms.
Speaker 3: Okay, number one we've got. Is it worth it for
Speaker 3: the Nets to give up anything for JJ Reddick? They
Speaker 3: have so many.
Speaker 1: Shooters, Marty, come on, let's come on, man, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, tough question to ask. I mean, they did
Speaker 1: follow it up with they have so many shooters, so
Speaker 1: they kind of already.
Speaker 2: Know what the answer is, don't they. Yeah, let's talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: The Nets just put up one hundred and forty six
Speaker 1: points in a regular season game and they lost. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's safe to say they don't.
Speaker 2: Need any more offense.
Speaker 1: If if the Nets get JJ Reddick when they already
Speaker 1: have Joe Harris, maybe they're thinking about trading Joe Harris.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if you have those two guys
Speaker 1: on the same team, they're like the same guy, only
Speaker 1: JJ can come around the screen and hit a shot,
Speaker 1: and Joe Harris is more like that corner three guy.
Speaker 2: Both pretty boys.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about people just wanting
Speaker 1: to hang out in Brooklyn because their family lived there.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: This, JJ Reddick, that's cheating. Go play for the Knicks, fam,
Speaker 1: if you want to stay in Brooklyn, just go play
Speaker 1: for the Knicks. This doesn't make any sense. We already
Speaker 1: have a pretty boy with a podcast. KD has his
Speaker 1: podcast during the season. Their defensive rating right now is
Speaker 1: the worst in NBA history right the second and guess what,
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick is not going to help that whatsoever. No, so, no,
Speaker 1: I don't like that trade whatsoever. I think they need
Speaker 1: someone who can play some d Who do you think
Speaker 1: that the net should trade for right now besides Andre
Speaker 1: Drummond Ooh?
Speaker 3: I mean, who's a hailable shoot?
Speaker 1: It's gotta be someone on the wing. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a crazy thing to say. No, that's a way
Speaker 1: to stop your office.
Speaker 2: A guy who thinks he's a shooter who is not
Speaker 2: a shooter. I mean, you need a three and D
Speaker 2: guide what Josh Richardson?
Speaker 1: No, come on, now, come on now, I think you needn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is even a real trade,
Speaker 1: and I would I mean, I gross myself out to
Speaker 1: even say.
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons for Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 3: Straight up, I don't hate it.
Speaker 2: I don't hate it either.
Speaker 1: That improves your I mean, if you could get Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons matist.
Speaker 3: Thibel, Oh yeah, Bibel's great. I mean, as little he
Speaker 3: as he can do on offense, he's all team, first team,
Speaker 3: all defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you could get those two boys for
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and then maybe trade Joe Harris for them,
Speaker 1: and then maybe you get JJ Reddick to replace. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're playing GM right now. Oh yeah, we're playing GM
Speaker 1: right now. I think that could work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate that.
Speaker 2: I think Philly would like that. Actually I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they wouldn't. Philly's playing great. They're probably staying pat
Speaker 1: is tough. I am looking forward though, to the point
Speaker 1: in the season. It's alright, the chatters are already starting.
Speaker 1: Steve Nash, your boy is going to be fired.
Speaker 3: Marty.
Speaker 2: It's a matter. He's not even anywhere to be found.
Speaker 1: I don't even think he's calling plays anymore unless he's
Speaker 1: doing these rotations, which we know are garbage.
Speaker 2: He's getting fired. Count on it.
Speaker 3: So disrespect.
Speaker 2: Next question, Next question, please.
Speaker 3: Okay, who is the NBA Ricky of the Year. At
Speaker 3: this point, I have an answer. I'm curious what yours is.
Speaker 1: Who's your answer? It's gotta be yellow, right, he is
Speaker 1: better number two overall?
Speaker 2: Pick better? No. Three over three?
Speaker 3: Was he?
Speaker 2: No, it was it was.
Speaker 1: Your boy aunt Edwards, and then it was James Wiseman.
Speaker 1: His court vision is sick.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 1: I've never I mean I have I think I haven't
Speaker 1: seen someone love to pass the way mellow loves to pass,
Speaker 1: except for Jason Williams. Yeah, it's been since White Chocolate,
Speaker 1: by the way, can't name someone white Chocolate, by the way,
Speaker 1: they're already doing that.
Speaker 2: I think it's Peyton Pritcher's new name.
Speaker 3: You can't replace that.
Speaker 1: So it's dope to see someone, I mean in Gordon
Speaker 1: Hayward's thriving with LaMelo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just setting them up. But the player that must
Speaker 2: be talked about is Emmanuel Quickly.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is on not only a surprise team, but
Speaker 1: he's probably one of the reasons that they are a
Speaker 1: surprise team. He's allowing RJ. Barrett to turn into who RJ.
Speaker 1: Barrett is supposed to be. RJ.
Speaker 2: Barrett's having an all time efficient game or season.
Speaker 1: Just Paul George recently, just last yesterday, called Quickly crazy fearless,
Speaker 1: and Qui said, sky's the limit for Quickly just another
Speaker 1: example of Hey, gms, it's not that hard. If there's
Speaker 1: a Kentucky player available, you take that Kentucky player that's available.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: If you have the need or if you don't have
Speaker 1: the need. Most often they turn out. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Tyler hero, Nobody was talking about him. Don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. If I had a child right now,
Speaker 1: I would put him in a Kentucky onesie. Yeah, like immediately,
Speaker 1: if I had a boy, a little boy.
Speaker 2: I'm not having any kids.
Speaker 1: So for folks who think I'm breaking news here, but
Speaker 1: if I did have a son, Coach Cal would be
Speaker 1: his greatest hero. He would be watching YouTube clips of
Speaker 1: Coach Cal. He's averaging twelve. Quickly's averaging not my son.
Speaker 1: Quickly is averaging twelve points in twenty minutes. A game
Speaker 1: that's crazy like that is nuts. And it's almost like
Speaker 1: the Knicks finally.
Speaker 3: Made a good decision on Tibbs.
Speaker 2: Tibbs and Quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think both of them together. Tibbs is the
Speaker 1: ultimate like get players ready. He's almost like a Kenny Atkinson.
Speaker 3: He's good for rookies because yeah, yeah, you're not worried
Speaker 3: about like running them out of the.
Speaker 1: Gy like he's great for young teams, like that was
Speaker 1: what Kenny Atkinson did. Yeah on that Brooklyn Nets team too,
Speaker 1: just random ran them down. Not great at managing egos obviously,
Speaker 1: but really really great with young guys that.
Speaker 2: He can mold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, next one, we've got what does the Raptors
Speaker 3: franchise need to do to get some respect?
Speaker 1: I mean, not be tenth in the East, probably, not
Speaker 1: being country probably. I like the Raptors, They're like my
Speaker 1: pet team. I love Nick Nurse. He's a friend, friend
Speaker 1: of the pod. But let's just say this about Nick
Speaker 1: Nurse for a second. Me and Nick Nurse were supposed
Speaker 1: to do an interview and Nick Nurse was like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's chat when I get down to Tampa. And then
Speaker 1: after he got down to Tampa, it was like me
Speaker 1: and Nick Nurse weren't even friends anymore. I think he's strong,
Speaker 1: he is emotionally, must be going through it because work
Speaker 1: life balance so important, and he's so I mean, you're
Speaker 1: just living somewhere that you don't live for an entire season.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Seventy two Road games.
Speaker 1: You can't get into a rhythm, you can't find your
Speaker 1: coffee shop that you love.
Speaker 2: The people that are around that you want to see
Speaker 2: can't see them.
Speaker 1: It's tough. You can't do that. You can't lose gasol
Speaker 1: and eatbaka and not be impacted.
Speaker 2: We talked about this.
Speaker 3: Before, right, I mean, maybe he's just a big strip
Speaker 3: club guy, Nick Nurse.
Speaker 2: No way, no way, that would be tough.
Speaker 1: I think Nick, there's the top three NBA head coach.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a tough season for them. I
Speaker 1: think the Raptors will be back, but Tampa Bay is
Speaker 1: everyone's worst nightmare.
Speaker 2: Except for Tom Brady, I guess, right.
Speaker 1: And until then, Yeah, I mean, you just gotta move.
Speaker 2: You can't be in Toronto and you can't be tenth
Speaker 2: in the East. You gotta contend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to reload it a little bit. I
Speaker 3: think they're gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so too.
Speaker 3: Okay, who is your most hated NFL team?
Speaker 2: So I could say the Washington Football team right rival
Speaker 2: cowboy fan? I could say the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Wow, by the way, those that Eagle the Eagles team,
Speaker 1: their new head coach is just he's like Adam Gase.
Speaker 2: It was like an Adam Gase viral moment.
Speaker 3: It didn't start out great.
Speaker 2: I mean yuck.
Speaker 1: But when I think of a visceral reaction, a team
Speaker 1: that just makes me kind of want to vomit in
Speaker 1: my mouth a little bit, A team that I never.
Speaker 2: Will root to succeed. I think about the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: I know that's tough to say, working at a company
Speaker 1: that's success has been correlated to the success of the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots.
Speaker 2: But I think we're okay. Now we're valued at like
Speaker 2: a billion dollars. I think we're all right. I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: But I don't want the New England Patriots to ever
Speaker 1: succeed ever again. Ever, I don't think I can root
Speaker 1: for any player that even plays on that team, besides
Speaker 1: maybe Julian Edelman. I mean, at least I can root
Speaker 1: for Chase Young and the Alex Smith comeback story. It
Speaker 1: least I can root for. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: can root for anyone on the Eagles actually.
Speaker 3: Hm hmm, Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 2: Nope, I can't.
Speaker 1: But still, there's no people I don't root for the No, No,
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots.
Speaker 2: I can't stand them.
Speaker 3: Okay, back to basketball. Do the Sixers have what it
Speaker 3: takes to win the East? And what does Doc add
Speaker 3: to their success?
Speaker 1: Doc's big time addition. Doc and Darryl Morey big time
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers. Let's just talk about Doc Rivers for a second,
Speaker 1: because it's what the DM wants.
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers chose Seth. So the Sixers were trying to
Speaker 2: pursue Austin Rivers.
Speaker 1: Doc gets the job and he's like, Nah, that's.
Speaker 2: Crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't, don't, let's not get Austin. I've already
Speaker 1: coached Austin and he's not that good. Facts you got
Speaker 1: a manual quickly playing more minutes or playing bigger minutes
Speaker 1: in Austin Rivers.
Speaker 2: I like Austin Rivers.
Speaker 1: But Doc was like, no, never forget that. That's funny
Speaker 1: to me. That's like we're gonna win games over the nepotism.
Speaker 1: And that's been a knock on Doc because he got
Speaker 1: Austin that huge contract.
Speaker 2: He's good now.
Speaker 1: Ye Joe l Embiid playing his best basketball under Doc.
Speaker 2: He's no longer forced to stay in the paint. He's like,
Speaker 2: roll them around, hang around the three point line. We'll
Speaker 2: use you like Yokic. He's killing right now. He's looking
Speaker 2: like an MVP unlocked. Brett Brown was trash.
Speaker 3: It's like that.
Speaker 2: I knew this for years. They just kept keeping his
Speaker 2: ass around for god knows why.
Speaker 3: This is the culture. It's gonna work eventually, trust the process.
Speaker 1: No like make changes. So he also all knows no
Speaker 1: one's talking about Tobias Harris. Tobias Harris played his best
Speaker 1: basketball under Doc, and now Tobias Harris is free, free
Speaker 1: to do what he does best. Like they had Tobias
Speaker 1: Harris running Iso set slash.
Speaker 2: And it was gross. It was bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Doc gets Harris and now he's hitting quick threes,
Speaker 1: making swing passes, doing these calculated drives at the rim
Speaker 1: he hit. He hit a game winner the other night.
Speaker 1: And now you have a rookie in Maxie who's making
Speaker 1: big strides just like shy Gilgas Alexander did under Doc.
Speaker 1: So the one thing though, that I could say about
Speaker 1: So I like the Sixers and I like Doc. The
Speaker 1: one thing that I will say about Doc that he
Speaker 1: should be doing that he is not doing is holding
Speaker 1: that man Ben Simmons accountable. He's playing the worst basketball
Speaker 1: that he has in his entire career, which is saying
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: He's shooting more and shooting worse.
Speaker 1: He is just like kind of covering up for him
Speaker 1: in media availability too.
Speaker 2: Just doesn't make any sense to me. Problem.
Speaker 1: So the seventy six ers, yes, can come out of
Speaker 1: the East as long as Miami is still broken.
Speaker 3: That's a funny way of looking at it. Okay, how
Speaker 3: can the Orlando Magic become relevant contenders in four years?
Speaker 1: So I was looking at the Orlando Magic earlier and
Speaker 1: I looked at their roster. I was like, Wow, this
Speaker 1: roster is actually like pretty good. This roster is better
Speaker 1: than the MAVs roster. That's crazy. You could go down
Speaker 1: the list. Let's just go down the list for a
Speaker 1: second Magic roster. Cole Anthony like him, Aaron Gordon like him,
Speaker 1: Nicolo Ucavich, I can't pronounce that.
Speaker 3: Markl Foltz Vujovic is the most underrated player in the dred.
Speaker 2: Percent Agree four is okay?
Speaker 3: Baba's don't don't google it, don't google it.
Speaker 2: Bamba's okay, Jonathan Eisen's okay. Yeah, there's some players.
Speaker 1: Terrence Ross, this is a much better team than the roster.
Speaker 1: If you go down the roster of the magic and
Speaker 1: can be like, ah, yikes, yeah yea Alfa Rukmino, former Blazer, sneaky,
Speaker 1: James Enna sneaky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do they need to do to be
Speaker 1: relevant contenders in four years? They need a big time
Speaker 1: free agent. That's that's what they need. They need someone
Speaker 1: that they can give the rock to in crunch time,
Speaker 1: which is not cool, Anthony.
Speaker 2: Let's just be serious. Not yet, you think maybe at
Speaker 2: some game.
Speaker 3: I'm just I mean, I'd like to be optimistic for
Speaker 3: young players. Players have surprised me before.
Speaker 1: Who is the biggest surprise that you weren't sure about
Speaker 1: that has come out and is now like a legit player.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I was pissed when we drafted Devin Booker. I thought, yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: what did you want at that point? I think I
Speaker 3: wanted Trey Lyles, who like got drafted right before.
Speaker 1: That is a good time to say, that's all the time,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, that's all the time that we have.
Speaker 2: For this league.
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