WEBVTT - You Have a Prepaid Call From “Suge Knight” 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:05.000 Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O Day covering the Diddy trial. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.760 You have a prepaid call from Sure. Let's call ANDREI 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.280 telephone number. We'll be monitored and recorded. Shure man, it's 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.200 good with you, top in the morning to you. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.560 I miss you, baby. How are you? 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.279 Oh? You know, miss you baby. Every day's a blessing. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.439 He's still taking over the world. I see. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.639 Huh, you know, one little small step at a time. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.879 But can I tell you I have missed your spirit 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.159 and energy for so long. I always watch your interviews 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.639 and I think people would trip out to hear us 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.440 talking and know to find out that we've known each 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.240 other for what is it decades now, I think since 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:46.440 the last time we hung out. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:51.000 Yeah, it's gonna be funny about it that I had 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.920 got you studio time because I had tracks and stuff 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.040 for you, but somebody got in the way of it. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:57.920 You probably never knew that part, but I will tell 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.880 you that today. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.520 I did not know. I swear I did not know 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:02.080 that part. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:02.840 That you know. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.280 That's kind of the story of being blacklisted, though you 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.560 know how that goes. Can I tell you one thing, Sugar, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.080 There was this photo of us where you gave me 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.320 my first cigar, and me and you were smoking a 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.120 cigar at some event that we were at together, and 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.040 it's my one of my favorite photos of us, and 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.880 it got riped off the internet. I can't find it anywhere, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.720 and I used to be able to just google it. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.959 One of those people who probably don't like you probably 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:28.480 got rid of it somehow. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.440 Yeah, they don't. They don't want people knowing that. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.040 They don't want people knowing that we're friends, that we 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.959 collaborate on ideas exactly. So, Sugar, I know you don't 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.240 have a ton of time, so I want to first 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.800 get started with my like the number one dying question 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.840 I have for you, which is historically you and Puff 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.880 have had decades of bad blood and so seeing interview 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.040 after interview lately where you're basically kind of saying things 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.440 like Puff isn't guilty for the things he did to 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.560 those people, that he didn't invent abuse industry tactics Salon, which, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.320 by the way, I do agree with you on that 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.240 this is a systematic issue and way more people need 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:10.120 to be being discussed. However, doesn't you saying that those 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.519 statements in general kind of validate that Puff is doing 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.760 that behavior and that he is guilty of it. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.320 So I never said that I don't believe he not 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.160 doing anything wrong. What I said was this, I mean, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.840 I love the coach of hip hop. I love the 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.079 coach of our people. Right, Yes, it was all said 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.600 and done. I said they should be smart about it 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.400 because you know, my belief is that I feel, like 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.200 I always felt, I felt that he's real comfortable with 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:46.519 the authorities, maybe the FBI informant or something. Right, Yeah, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.800 So I said at this time that they're not really 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.360 gonna smack him like they're another with smacking anyone else, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.760 because you got to look at the pattern. But it's 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.200 the same guy. That one thing for certain, one thing 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.040 for sure. When I started my company, when I started 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.960 death Row, nobody started death row button me. When I 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.079 decided to start death Row, I came with the name 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.560 my Little homy hit Doll Rest in Peace to the 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:15.160 logo Everything's done blew me. And then as time went on, 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.120 people try to get recognition or try to get out 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.200 of prison, and he got out of prison by saying 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.600 and they have affiliated with me, were alive, right, Yeah, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:28.520 But on the other hand, buff really had drug money 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.200 invold in this shit, that's the past, right, But at 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.359 the same time, he got him a parting. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.240 Yeah, he had a lot of people moving in the 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.800 streets for him. He had a bunch of people right, right. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.040 So what I'm trying to say is you take now, 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.960 sure enough, I'm from Tamping, I'm with all that, and 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.480 I claim everything about what God made me. I am right, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.000 but don't lie on me. So when I said that, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.800 he's probably not gonna smack him that bad because of 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.600 his affiliations with law enforcements. So then when I was 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.920 trying to save this and I still stand up on me, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.600 it's so much more we can do for the generations 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.440 behind us. Yes, what I mean by that, it's like 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.040 make make him you understand and tell his truth. He 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.280 should one of humanized himself and help others. Make all 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.280 the other people who were definitely involved. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.720 Why was I just gonna I was going to jump 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.800 to Capricorn, Like everybody was talking about Capricorn's testimony, and 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.919 on my podcast, I said, I was a bit disappointed 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.080 that she didn't go all the way there because if 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.280 you were around in the industry, you know what she 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.279 endured and who and how she got the money to 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.839 go away and they didn't talk about it on the stand. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:41.279 You mean to tell me that he gonna bring Capricorn, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.960 Puffy and one of the ghouls and me women to 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:49.080 make Capricorn take the money, not like saying you are 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:49.960 a choice. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.920 Can I ask you something on that? When I heard 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.400 in the testimony that she had come from death Row 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.000 and then was brought over to bad Boy and how 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.040 they kind of initiated her into that family. I had 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.840 never known that she had come from death row? What 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:09.280 was that extreme of an initiation for? Like, what what 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.720 did they think she was gonna do? Come report back? 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.279 I mean, what what was that? Did that elevate the 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:15.800 beef between you guys? 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.640 First of all, let's get it straight. Me personally, he 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.320 wasn't important enough to be my enemy. I never had 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.640 nothing against Puff like that, you know what I mean? 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.240 And we know it can be beef because you ain't 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.320 never one thing about me. You're gonna see me everywhere 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.560 you go on the West Coast. You're gonna see me 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.840 in the ghetto, You're gonna see in somebody's project. You 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.760 gonna see me at every restaurre, every club, every beach, everywhere. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.440 So it's nothing separating him or anyone else get at 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.080 me but ad And at the same time, even when 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.440 even when I did get shot, I still can't do 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.200 one way. So and I got shot more than us. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.600 But when it comes to Capricorn, you gotta look at 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.640 it like this, the high for a position. We all 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:06.200 know what her position was. Right now when you settle, 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.800 there's no taxes. Yeah, but they know the truth because 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.880 you tell them about the government. You talk about the FBI. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.599 You know how powerful United States is the United States government? 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.279 It's like Trump. You see how fast Trump can get 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.120 seven hundred troopils or whoever he won marine down there 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.000 in downtown and look what area because he's a president 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.040 of the United States. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.240 I guess I always viewed puff as being one of 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.520 the untouchables, But all of a sudden he's touchable, Which 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.960 makes me wonder who else is a sole inventor of 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.800 this type of behavior you were around? Who are the names? 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.200 Can you start helping make some change? Give me names? 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.800 Okay, this is how you gotta look at It's not 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:51.720 the fact that people's untouchable or not untouchable. Right now, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.080 they can snatch your happiness if you let them patrol you. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.359 But if you following God, can nobody snatch your happiness. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.159 I've been in prison ten and a half years. They 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.200 ain't had a bad deal yet, right, that's only because 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.480 of God, and I got good people, you know on 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.240 the streets. Right. But this is the thing. Let's get 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.800 to the facts. That's about rebuilding the industry. If we 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.000 really care about the culture of hip hop and where 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.600 should go. Let's get the truth. Let's put these people 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:19.119 on the stand. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.200 Tell me some of the truth. Should tell me who 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:22.280 should take the stand. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.040 They shouldn't let Capricorn walk the way they let her walk, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.640 because if you look at it, if you look at Capricorn, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.280 you're going to be said, okay, okay, kat you trying 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.080 to tell me. I'm not saying it's not true. Puffy 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.320 threatened you and you didn't tell me. What type of 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.280 bitch is you? They know who at the players are. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.840 Get all those people on the stand, let them tell 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.600 their truth and work out some type of deal. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.800 Somebody has to start naming them. They're not gonna take 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:50.880 the stand themselves. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.400 Oh no, but you don't. But they can name them. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.720 First of all. You gotta look at it like this, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.360 just the United States, just the government you think those 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.640 da that worked for the FBI work in the United 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.000 States of America. They don't have the resources, they don't 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.240 have to knowledge not to get it done. They listening 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.240 to us right now as we speak. They probably watching me, 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.360 and they probably can tell you. I'm shut certain as 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.280 right now. See how many times I've been working out. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.880 So this is the United States of America, powerful people, right, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.960 So start like this. Every person around them has been corrupted. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.120 I'm gonna tell you what I know, and I'm gonna 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.800 ask you what you know even if you take and 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.559 I ain't picking on reg Jie, I think they should 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:33.280 look out for rage. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.960 I asked Raj at the end of last year, was 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.600 he a part of any of it? And he told 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:37.920 me no. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.480 So you're trying to say you never seen Puffy and 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.960 ray J together your like your whole career. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.240 I saw them together a lot now, you. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.520 Know as well as I know. When you've seen ray 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.840 J with Puffy? Was he acting like Brandy's little brother? 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:51.839 Was he being Raj? Or was he being one of 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.720 Puppy's people? You tell me? Did I tell you what 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:56.040 I know? 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.840 I think everybody around Diddy knows that Diddy is the one, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:00.920 it's in charge. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.120 Yeah, and so it's a whole bunch of suck. It 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.000 ain't what else going on. But look, I'm gonna tell 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.440 you like this, and I'm gonna take up for ray 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.920 Jae because Ray Jae is going through a lot. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.440 Because didn't he spend it on you a bit and 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:13.520 say you were doing it? 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.480 One thing, I've never got a dressing proved. One I'm black. Two, 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.280 I'm a man, Three am a man of God. And 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:26.480 four love me in the world. Everybody knows. Yeah, everybody 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.120 know what I do. And I do love you. You 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.640 got all the juice in the world. But at the 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.840 same time, I'm a man. I'm a man that loves 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.200 beautiful women, right, I do know. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.240 I know that I've seen you through the years. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.840 Yeah, I'm not gonna put my penis in a woman. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:47.080 But I'm not even nicking on a woman. But so 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.280 if I ain't gonna if I ain't gonna put my 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.640 opinions in a woman, but what makes you think I'm 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.320 gonna put my opinions in a man's ass? 0:09:59.559 --> 0:09:59.960 Mm hmm. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:07.600 So in regards to Tupac's shooting, you were in the car. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.880 We all know that Keithy came forward and said that 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.319 Puff offered a million bucks to take him out. We 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.920 know that Zip is gone. They can't maybe trace the money, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.199 I guess, is what's going on in that situation? And 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.520 Keethy was in the backseat? And is all that true? 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.040 Okay, Before I can get to that part, you see, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.480 they don't got KVD at Puppy's trial over. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.040 Stead, Why when Keithy d got taken in, I was 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.720 expecting that charge to come up in the indictment in 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:35.360 all honesty. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.840 No, well, okay, so look, let's let's break it down. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.000 Let me let me walk you through it. Okay. Now, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.920 first of all, Puff is from New York. He come 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.320 on the West Coast. People pretty much figured that. You know, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:55.920 they think they called New York the Red Apple, but 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.960 in reality, the West Coast is the Red Apple. So 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.000 the red apples already in somebody's hands taking a big 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.559 bite off that apple. Have no choice but to day 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.679 with the lady and the devil in the blue dress, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.800 you know. So Puff goes to recruit the people who 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:25.360 wear blue. Now it's a guy named James who moved 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.120 to my neighborhood, like in nineteen eighty two. He started 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.840 living in kepd's neighborhood, his baby mother and wife there, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.679 his best friends with gpd's wife or baby mama or 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.679 whatever this case may be. I'm not all in the 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:44.160 politics of that. WHOHI he personally heard, he personally seen 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:50.200 Jane Jamee's personally seen Puffy talking to KD them in 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.000 their neighborhood about putting money on Tupac and on me. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.520 That's one thing, right, Why was his hatred so deep 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:57.400 for you in Park? 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.839 Well, I think it started with Tupac first. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.080 There's rumors out there that they were there was potentially 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:04.640 more than a friendship between them. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.520 Is that true between Pokin Diddy? Was there anything going 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.080 on their relationship wise? 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.960 I'm gonna tell you like this, I had to be 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.920 with if I wasn't winning twenty four, twenty four hours 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.199 out the day. We talked all through the day, all 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:21.679 through the night. I ain't never seen PC talking about 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.000 messing with a man, want to mess with a man? 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.240 So the people that are saying that are capping. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.640 Well, you know, you gotta realize what game have them? 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.000 You got this? What you gotta realize. You got the 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.360 people who do something in life and did something in life, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.280 and you got the people who never did them in life. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.640 Yeah, who go on podcasting gossip if you do. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.000 Your well, you know, well that's a new that's a 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.720 new thing of the gossip because you don't get some 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.360 person in the podcast and say, hey, should night mess 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.480 though with three hundred million? Four hundred million after not true? Right, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.520 but say if that is true, you call yourself a 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.520 game or you call yourself on a podcast. You you 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.440 wish me to a bench, try to press a bitch 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.839 and tell them stuff about me. Right, But at the 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:01.959 end of the day, you got to look at it 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:07.760 like this, twenty years of their career, twenty years of 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.360 their career trying to make money. I was spending a 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.640 hundred times more than that I was spending twenty I 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.240 was spending ten million in twenty minutes. These dudes in 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:24.480 twenty years probably make fifty grand. So all this extra 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.280 talking they talk on these shows, they're the weirdos. Back 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.320 to the reality of the facts. Let's take this, let's 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.160 take this time. Let's fix some things. Let's see we 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.360 don't got to be funny and clown you know, now. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.200 Let's fix it, straighten it up for people. That's what 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:39.720 I want to do. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.080 Now let's go to the part of this and reason 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.719 why I brung up rain J. I got love for 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.120 ray J. I don't care for what ray Jay say. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.240 You know, at the end of the mother the day 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.680 you know ray J say is lost. We need help. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.760 So let's not pick on ray J. But at the 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.280 same time, how they go from ray Z being with 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.880 him all the time, spending the night with him and 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.160 never ever gets poened A coat of court. You got 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.160 capricorn on the stands Now I got a forty five 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.640 bullet into my skull and the doctor told me they 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.559 can't remove because if the go another EDS, I'll be 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.920 dead or vescible. But now a cook a cop say 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.960 it's just a forty it's not a forty five. That's 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.280 news to me. He probably knows less he heading out 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.320 the guns. I don't know how you know more than 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.200 what the doctor killed me. The man you do. Now 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.080 back to the facts of the matter. When you look 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.280 at the when I got shot, they blamed me for 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.120 thirty years. It cost me my freedom, cost me mind 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.200 cumpany in a way, it cost me my freedom again. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.560 This time if somebody hit me with an iron pipe 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.840 and they got a video on it, I don't worry 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.760 about it. They'll say nothing happened. It doesn't happen to 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.960 these people. I can get shot seven times in one open, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.400 they got all on video, they could do a song 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:06.360 about it. Do anything happens? Absolutely not. What she's gonna 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.400 look at is were talking about Puffy situation. We're talking 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.960 about Loud of the Vega situation. You talking about Tupac, 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.880 you talking about me, you talk about Puffy, You tell 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.680 my bad Boy, you tell about death. Bro, let's start there, Biggie, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.320 all of it and all of. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.360 The stories that have been told. What is a piece 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.680 of the truth that nobody knows? Can you tell me 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.920 one piece of truth? Then nobody knows about that whole era. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.120 I'm gonna tell you the truth that nobody knows. First 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.880 of all, you gotta remember one thing. We always friends, 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:43.480 number one. Yeah, Now that's very important. But we all 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.760 needed each other. Yeah, because as a whole, we made 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:52.080 the entry exciting. Yep, we made us work harder. Because 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.720 at the end of the day, if I was known 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:00.960 for making superstars and dropping albums, Puffy was to make 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.640 a single better than anyone. And you gotta get that 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.320 to him, because this motherfucker I'm gonna take a single, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.520 we go off as Biggie or what else, and he 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.720 gonna hop his ass to have mother fucking videos. He's 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.600 gonna put that little, tight little suit on it and 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.760 he's gonna pop it. Right. Yeah, I'm gonna make my 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:21.640 artists as far and never ever being in video. I'm not. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.560 I'm not gonna pop it. I'm not gonna do all 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.320 it because it's about film. Gave all the stock in 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.400 death Row and ask one of. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.160 Them, so, so where tell me? They tell me that? 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:34.880 Tell me where it first goes wrong. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.280 I think it went wrong because of the people in 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.160 the industry and not us. I called a meeting for 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.800 all of us. I said, hey, and this is a 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.320 meeting in my This is meeting in the prime of everything. 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.720 I said, you know, they got six contributors. We don't 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.160 got to say it disturbed by death bro. We don't 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.200 got the serious and said disturbed by a bad boy 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.600 or whoever. We don't gonna do none of that, right, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.560 I said, this is what we do. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.959 You didn't need them, You didn't need that. They were 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.719 taking the money and you didn't need to give them 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:08.160 that cut. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.840 Period, didn't need them. So so so I told everybody, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.840 I said, look all my artists, I'm giving them their 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.720 own label. I gave Stoop, you're gonna have your own label. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.120 Park you got your own label. Dog for everybody having 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:21.720 your own label. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.320 So in that in that meeting, what was the agreement? 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:25.720 Why did why did it go wrong? 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.840 So this is would happened? We all in this meeting, 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.159 and I said, look, I don't got to do this 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.200 by myself. It could be some we ship. So this 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.320 is what we're gonna do. We control the industry because 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.600 so then they have a hit song of breaking new 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.560 artists then need to track. Why want of our producers? 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.639 Yes, they needed all artists got. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.119 It and they needed they needed this, right. I think 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.520 what we're gonna do is we're gonna have a distribution 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.800 company and we're gonna call it a Lucky seven. The 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:57.320 Lucky seven is gonna get all the talent and distriver 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.080 our own ship. So Puffy raised his hand like he's 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.280 in class. He said, cause I talked, I said, go ahead. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:11.520 He looked. He says, I'm not worried about the white 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.800 people that we can see. I'm worried about the wolves 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.040 gonna pull up on our on our front yard, and 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.800 those pickup trucks and talking about burning um signs in 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:21.240 the yard. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:22.160 What does that mean? 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.359 He's worried about the white men coming up and pickup trucks, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.520 harassing us, telling them we can't do it. I said, well, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.280 you take your Martin Luther king as on out of 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.639 here and have a dream. The wars who want to 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.640 be like macaolm x and all I means necessary, Let's 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:37.160 stay and talk. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:38.920 So that divided the coasts. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.920 That divided everything, and that turned everything to making Hill 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:52.280 night to the industry most wanted. M hm. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.800 Okay, So let me fast forward a tiny bit. Now 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.800 we get into the higher stake of there's weapons, there's hatred, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.119 there's people being murdered. It's getting out of control. I 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.239 understand that that's where the bad blood starts. How does 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.879 it elevate to the next levels, which are way more crazy? 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:16.760 Is it over? 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:17.400 Masters? 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:18.600 Is it over? Girls? 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:19.400 What is it over? 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.080 They played every person against everyone, So it starts like this, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.040 the white men dead right when we had the biggest 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.320 peace treaty on the West coast. I can't speak to 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.280 anyone else. I'm born raised out here right on the 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.200 West coast. We have one of the biggest peace treaties 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.720 ever with all the different neighborhoods, the game members and 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.960 everyone after Rodney King got his asked with the riots, right, yeah, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.560 the share especially the ones encountered. They will go in 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.920 their own personal cars and drive up shoot that different 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.320 game member as far as sometimes shoot a game member 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:02.000 and how another game members neighborhood and that certain neighborhood 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.760 would go back and do something to the other neighborhood 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.920 they thought came and shot at him, but it was 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:10.120 always the police. So now we has it in the industry. 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:12.560 They pulled a lot of guys and you don't need 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.239 to times people call me in the meet and say, hey, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.040 you make average like you say Puffy makes sing this, 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.959 you make superstars. Now we can't say Biggie wasn't one 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.240 of the best rappers you ever do it, but the 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.159 did between Biggie and Tupac, Biggie was probably that were 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.120