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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Dr Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew.

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, John, it's good to see you. And it's

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Speaker 2: good to see you. Gentle viewer, gentle listener, good to

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Speaker 2: hear you. This is in the Lab, presented by Exfinity.

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Speaker 2: Even though we're not hearing you, it's great that you're

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Speaker 2: hearing us.

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Speaker 3: John. How you doing, budd doing okay?

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Speaker 4: Just getting ready for a trip Sunday to take on

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Speaker 4: those guys up north.

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Speaker 3: How about to night?

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Speaker 2: How about that man? This was one that was earmarked

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Speaker 2: ahead of ahead of time. Hey, you're playing the Cowboys're

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Speaker 2: gonna play the Cowboys are gonna play on prime Time.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play them on Thanksgiving. When you're gonna play,

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Speaker 2: you get them in primetime. You don't get them on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: That's all right. But this is one that I think

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Speaker 2: we can expect to see a healthy robust section of

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Speaker 2: Texans fans, not section, but really spread throughout this one. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys Stadium at and T Stadium, they have really

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Speaker 2: over the last decade, they've they've had opposing fans come in,

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Speaker 2: and that's like the one to go to a lot

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Speaker 2: of the time unless you're playing Vegas. But it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be loud. It'll be loud. You'll you're gonna see a

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Speaker 2: lot of battle red in the stands. You'll see a

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Speaker 2: lot of the new stuff from the Texans unis in

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. The last time they played there in

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Speaker 2: the regular season when it was kind of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: He was the last time, and there were good there

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Speaker 2: was a good amount of texts fans, but the organization

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Speaker 2: was in a much different spot. The last time though,

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Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, when this one went to overtime, and

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Speaker 2: this was a hell of a game. JJ was in

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Speaker 2: his comet season where he was just amazing. Arion Foster

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Speaker 2: was still un excellent back at that point and still

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Speaker 2: healthy enough, and the Cowboys nipped it in overtime because

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Speaker 2: of one of the greatest players I've ever seen by

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Speaker 2: any quarterback, Tony Romo, getting out of a sack and

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Speaker 2: throwing a touchdown. But I can't wait, man, this is

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Speaker 2: so much fun to see. I know both teams are

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Speaker 2: coming off pretty bad losses, but it's still awesome to

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Speaker 2: you really want to beat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're right about the fan influence.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I know our fan base

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Speaker 4: was very excited about was after the game in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 4: Tony Romo saying, man, it was loud in there.

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Speaker 3: I had to go to the Silide count Yeah. Man,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 4: And I even started seeing post tweets whatever you want

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Speaker 4: to call it on Twitter X that was already leading

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Speaker 4: to this game on Monday. It was like, hey, we

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Speaker 4: got a Monday night football are we got a Sunday

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Speaker 3: Let's save the Dallas stuff for later.

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Speaker 4: But they're already kind of planning, so hopefully it'll be

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Speaker 4: I remember you and I kind of talked about it later, like,

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Speaker 4: was it eighty twenty seventy thirty? I felt like it

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Speaker 3: It was it was akin to a college game.

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Speaker 4: And I hate to even say this, it was almost

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Speaker 4: was loud. It was really loud. When that field goal

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Speaker 3: Hate that, but it gave the game.

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Speaker 4: This really kind of fifty to fifty feel like there

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Speaker 4: That when the Texans made it play, you got the

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Speaker 4: We'll see how Cowboys fans show up on a Monday

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Speaker 4: night with their team kind of struggling with owners and

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Speaker 3: Well, tonight game, don't worry about that.

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Speaker 4: Michah Parsons is gonna be ready to go because it's

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Speaker 4: So there's gonna be a lot in this game against

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Speaker 4: gonna want to show up no matter what's the saying

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Speaker 4: throw the records out the window.

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Speaker 3: I think this is one of those throw the records

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Speaker 4: And hopefully there'll be some guys back for the Texans

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Speaker 4: and that will help and more guys you get back.

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Speaker 3: Looking not geting Steph Diggs.

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Speaker 4: Back, which hurts, but you're gonna get some guys back,

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Speaker 4: hopefully in the next couple of weeks, and this will

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Speaker 4: three game stretch that you have before the bye week.

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Speaker 4: I felt like the energy Sunday from the players was mets.

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Speaker 4: I felt like they played, they had a lot of

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Speaker 4: so now you've got these three games, two of them

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Speaker 3: Hopefully you know, be nice to.

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Speaker 4: Run the table and go into the buy at nine

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Speaker 4: and taking a really good team up in their building

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: That, looking at their stats, it's you say, throw the

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Speaker 2: they're averaging like fifteen points. Yeah, they're averaging fifteen points

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Speaker 2: the their due camp. I just don't see that. How

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Speaker 2: but just looking at stats in history, like how is that?

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Speaker 2: I'm not the only thing, but that's that's one of

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Speaker 2: this gonna? Is this gonna keep holding? I mean even

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying here?

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Speaker 3: Like, well, how is trepidation possible? There should be trepidation

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Speaker 2: But then but then they don't have their quarterback you know,

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Speaker 2: he's well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well there you go.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think that's that's that's a part of it,

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Speaker 4: you know, they lost three games in there with Dak

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Speaker 3: Then they got pummeled by the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: And they basically got pummeled by the Ravens. Despite the

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Speaker 2: final score, yeah closer and they got So those are embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: Now those are three really good football teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Texas just went toe to toe with the best

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Speaker 4: team in the league, had a twenty three to seven lead,

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Speaker 4: couldn't score in the second half, but had opportunities, just

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So are the sexes on that left.

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Speaker 4: Well don't know, And I don't know that this is

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Speaker 3: I think this is just a game where.

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Speaker 4: You've got to get back off you got to get

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Speaker 4: back off the schneid, you got to get positive winning

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, we've never won up there. I mean

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Speaker 2: I was there or whether it's uh Texas Stadium, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I always thinking about that, and I thought about that

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Speaker 4: for the Colts for all those years from two thousand

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Speaker 4: and two to twenty fourteen. You had opportunities to beat

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Speaker 4: just couldn't pull it off against the Colts twenty eleven.

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Speaker 4: You've got your best team that you've had in the

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Speaker 4: Thursday night up at Indy. Now this was on a

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Speaker 4: You get the bodies right after playing a really physical

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Speaker 4: game against the Lions. It's Wednesday when we're recording, so

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Speaker 4: this is essentially the off day for the team. So

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Speaker 3: And that's for both teams.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys have that opportunity as well, but the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: are banged up. They did get Michael Parsons back, I

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Speaker 3: So Michael Parsons could do the same.

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Speaker 4: He didn't do a whole lot against the Eagles, against

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Speaker 4: primed on a Monday night. And look, you get thinking.

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Speaker 4: We found out in twenty twenty two. A couple interception here,

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Speaker 4: that's the thing you can't allow to happen against this team.

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Speaker 4: You've got to be better in the red zone. You've

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Speaker 4: got to scorn the flip in second half. This is

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Speaker 2: It's been bad, but one thing to fall back on

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Speaker 2: is this is a very very good Texans defense, very

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Speaker 2: very good. But when it's at home, it's outstanding. It's excellent.

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Speaker 2: Coming into this this line's game. Quarterbacks were completing the

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Speaker 2: four quarterbacks combined that you'd played in the four games

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Speaker 2: They'd get they'd gotten sacked three and a half times

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Speaker 2: rate rose five percent. That's it, five percent. Golf only

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Speaker 2: completed five percent of his passes and he completed five

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Speaker 2: of them to you get five interceptions. This Texans defense

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Speaker 2: at home otherworldly so far this year. And it's not

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Speaker 2: a home game obviously, but like we just led this

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Speaker 2: in the crowd. It's gonna be loud. That helps out.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice thing. And you're going against a quarterback

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Speaker 2: This is the first time, John since the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 4: It's not the first time with the Monday Night Crew, true,

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Speaker 4: Mario Edwards has played like one of your top dozen

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Speaker 3: He was out of that game. You haven't had Christian

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Speaker 4: But who will say Henry totoa who's on a player

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Speaker 3: He was fantastic on that show. He's been fantastic all year.

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Speaker 4: So you know you you went into that game a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing changes.

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Speaker 2: why did they I still don't understand why that was

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Speaker 4: He did, he made the play, and I think that

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Speaker 4: But you just didn't play a clean game the second half,

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Speaker 4: that's already been announced that he's coming back from his suspension.

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Speaker 3: So he's got the exemption.

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Speaker 3: For sixty minutes. Yeah, for sixty minutes.

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Speaker 4: And I think if it does that, this team can

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Speaker 2: All right, So with all that in mind, it leads

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Speaker 3: Of the crop.

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Speaker 4: The cream of the crop.

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Speaker 3: Rest in peace.

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Speaker 2: Macho man ready savage, we missed you, but thank you

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go very basic, John.

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Speaker 2: You just brought up the interior of the Dallas defensive

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Speaker 4: Right, mine, Yeah, is a guy going back to playing

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's nice. That's a good choice. I like it.

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Speaker 2: And it's a welcome edition because we saw fully fight

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Speaker 2: But let's see what Mario Edwards can do, because I

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Speaker 3: Of juice for it. There just is.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that's exactly us and and that's part of the

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Speaker 3: I like, I think he's going to have I mean.

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Speaker 4: He always comes into the game with a lot of focus.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that absolutely.

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Speaker 2: All right, John, it's always great to talk with you,

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Speaker 2: and it's always great that you are watching listening out there.

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Speaker 3: We thank you for some for that.

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Speaker 2: This is in the Lab presented by Inxfinity.

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Speaker 3: We had so much fun with it. We'll be back

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