WEBVTT - Part 3: Laird Shepherd, The 2021 Amateur Champion

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's going to have to be a run

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<v Speaker 1>of golf from Led Shepherd, and it's an amazing what

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<v Speaker 1>pressure can do. It's amazing how momentum can work. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he can just start chipping away at that lead

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<v Speaker 1>MSTI eighteen holes to go, it's not impossible, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>virtually impossible. I think we all know that. But we

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<v Speaker 1>wish lead well, we wish both player as well. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>put another log on the fire and nobody here is

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<v Speaker 1>given time. Welcome to the fire pit with Matt Janella.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just joining us, we're about to tee off

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<v Speaker 1>on the first tea at Narn Golf Club in Scotland.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Saturday afternoon in mid June. It's the finals

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<v Speaker 1>of the playing of the British Amateur Championship, in which

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<v Speaker 1>two underdogs who have both overcome adversity and physical issues

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<v Speaker 1>getting here, are about to finish things off. Monty Scousel,

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<v Speaker 1>who made six birdies in the morning, is seven up

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<v Speaker 1>on Laired Shepherd, who didn't make any birdies and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>win his first hole of the day until the last

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<v Speaker 1>hole of the morning round, which made for a somber sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>In Part one of this podcast, you get the backstory

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<v Speaker 1>and why it's so remarkable. They're both playing golf at

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<v Speaker 1>a competitive level. I had about five six shots. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very very cold, obviously January and St Andrew's but

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<v Speaker 1>five six shots and just chopped my club about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards and some rough and walked back to my car

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<v Speaker 1>um And I was pretty upset. You know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>said to my girlfriend, I'm not very good at anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of scary thinking he spent five years,

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<v Speaker 1>five six years your life pursuing something ultimately turns out

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<v Speaker 1>essentially not to be. In part two of this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the first eighteen holes of this match, in which

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<v Speaker 1>Money and Laird, who have been friends for years, are

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<v Speaker 1>embarking on a journey that win or lose, it could

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<v Speaker 1>alter the course of their lives forever. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>so nurus. I actually I went to my went to

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<v Speaker 1>my bag about one o'clock in the morning, flicked on

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<v Speaker 1>the light, started chipping around around my bedroom just to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I could still chip. You know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was bizarre and I couldn't believe it. Eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>holes in it was Monty Scouse seven up as they

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<v Speaker 1>took a break for lunch. Low on sleep and both

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<v Speaker 1>barely able to eat, they try to reset for the

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<v Speaker 1>war of attrition that is the Amateur Championship. They're about

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<v Speaker 1>to play their ninth competitive round in five days. We

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<v Speaker 1>start with Monty's dad, Jeremy Scousel, who has carried his

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<v Speaker 1>son's bag all week. He seemed to have a good

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<v Speaker 1>strategy for how Monty again seven up, could get the

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<v Speaker 1>victory and all that goes with that title. Well, mine

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<v Speaker 1>set actually start again and actually say we want to

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<v Speaker 1>win this. We want to win this match again. So

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<v Speaker 1>we looked to forget about everything that happened in the morning. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>start afresh. You know, we're level par uh and And

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose the thinking was that if we did that

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<v Speaker 1>and we played good Girl for again in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the chances are that at some stage we

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<v Speaker 1>would we get over the line. Meanwhile, Laird Shepherd is

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<v Speaker 1>finding some motivation in what he was hearing from the gallery. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>first hole, I hit my drive a little bit right,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone behind the tea decided to start screaming forward

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact it's not heading towards anyone. That annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit. And I tend to play a

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<v Speaker 1>bit better if I'm a bit annoyage. So I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>asked my caddy as well to get me a big

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<v Speaker 1>black coffee. Um, but we usually would drink if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing golf, because you get a bit jittery. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, do you want a coffee? And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, why not because he was so relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>like because it's over. And so he had a coffee

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<v Speaker 1>and we're walking, we're playing. The first time, I'm carrying

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<v Speaker 1>his coffee when he set his shots, and that I

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<v Speaker 1>played solide the first few holes. I knew I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to go off to a hot start, didn't get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and thought, well, oh well, let's just keep grinding away,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe within a few holes and reduced to death sit

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And he pointed the first few holes pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't get any I had a couple of chances,

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't manage to get it. And we got to

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth hole and that's when I changed in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So actually quite strange that because that's when it went

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<v Speaker 1>downhill in the morning, and then in the afternoon decided

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<v Speaker 1>to driver there and he hit bomb drive just in

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<v Speaker 1>the greenside bunker and that's just when I all changed.

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<v Speaker 1>He hit the bunker shot close, managed to wow his

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<v Speaker 1>first part really over around or the day ended up

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<v Speaker 1>having a bit of change of strategy. On the fifth hole,

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up nearly knocking on the green making a birdie, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it just ends up picking up holes

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<v Speaker 1>here and there after that. I think on the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>I made birdie to win a hole to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to five down um, and then hold a nice twor

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<v Speaker 1>nine to get back to four. And I said to

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<v Speaker 1>my Caddy after, I was like, I wish I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>had that coffee now because I starting to feel a

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<v Speaker 1>bit the nerves again. I needed the bit of nerves,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a bit of jittery as well because I

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<v Speaker 1>had all the caffeine and I hadn't been able to

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<v Speaker 1>eat that much just because I was so nervous that

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<v Speaker 1>it just you know, gone straight to me. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit shaky, and what have I done? This

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<v Speaker 1>is when the coffee comes in. He's like, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the jitters, like coffee jays. I was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>And then he hold apart and I was like, well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's fair. Then that's like maybe it works. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was Monty who might have needed a coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I could sit here and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't thinking about how many holes are left. I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing all the calculations on every hole, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I'm six up, twelve to play

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, thirteen to play, you know, keep halfing holes,

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<v Speaker 1>keep trying to win the alcohole. But that that was

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to do because LEDs started playing a lot better,

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<v Speaker 1>and my game I didn't hit them ma any fairways.

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<v Speaker 1>In the afternoon, I got out of position a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly, rather than being on the front foot in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning making birdies, I was sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>scrambling for parts a bit more. And that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult when you're out there and things aren't quite going

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<v Speaker 1>your way. As every golfer knows that feeling, it's sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to turn it around. Coffee wasn't the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing Shepard was inadvertently experimenting with. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look back, and it is crazy that you do some

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<v Speaker 1>things when when you're completely you think you completely out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and you know you end up doing things

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<v Speaker 1>you'd never usually do. In the biggest day of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my my girlfriends have a go at me

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<v Speaker 1>because I've put on brand new gold shoes for the

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<v Speaker 1>final and she was like, what are you doing. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be hearing your beast squeaking about your brand

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<v Speaker 1>new shoes. I was like, oh, sure, you imagine you

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<v Speaker 1>get blusters as well. I was like, as I, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to put a pair of shoes in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it, but like a gase, they were

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<v Speaker 1>given up blusters on the way right, all right, back

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<v Speaker 1>to the action. Stuart Shepherd, Laird's dad reflects on the

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<v Speaker 1>front nine we needed to win one or two of

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<v Speaker 1>the first few holes. Didn't didn't happen. Um, So at

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<v Speaker 1>that point I'm thinking it's really just damaged limitation exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you said, he wins five and then he

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<v Speaker 1>wins can remember eight and nine to get it to four.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, okay, he's now got the momentum, the big

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<v Speaker 1>game word and didn't you know fourward nine, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly kind of more realistic than doable. Yeah, at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>four down after after nine in the afternoon, it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is looking challenging, but you know, at least we've

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<v Speaker 1>got some back, and like Lyard said, he just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to be respectable, not you know, he was more

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<v Speaker 1>thinking he just didn't want to be beaten by the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest margin and history. So m and the end up

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<v Speaker 1>having a good part to then win another hole and

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<v Speaker 1>ten and just missed out and then a bad teasht

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven and plugged it in the front Banker and

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought, well, this really isn't what I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing right now. So I lost that hole

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're back five down with with six seven

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<v Speaker 1>to play. I think it was, which is not a

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<v Speaker 1>really a great position to be in. There. He made

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<v Speaker 1>bogie there and Money won the whole back. She's no.

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<v Speaker 1>Five down was showing and I mean, that's just again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's almost back to being seven down on the first

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<v Speaker 1>tyear like well, although I wasn't even thinking that it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't possible. And then when when he lost, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he left the past through eleventh. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to five. Well, that that is the

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<v Speaker 1>hope has gone. It's back to damage limitation. And in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a point where you start thinking it's not

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<v Speaker 1>looking possible anymore. For me, that was he could I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he couldn't afford to lose that one. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked so hard to get it back to four

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<v Speaker 1>and then to just lose one straightway back to to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to five down, and like you say, with

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<v Speaker 1>the sun running out of the timer. That's remember saying

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<v Speaker 1>to my sister and she's she's not a golfer, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said something like, oh, you can still do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just, I think I literally said, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>running out of holes. So it led one the ninth

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<v Speaker 1>to take it to four four down with with nine

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and I you know, obviously knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>far from over at that point, but I I'm we

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<v Speaker 1>half the tenth and I won the eleventh to go

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<v Speaker 1>to five up with seven to play, and that really

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<v Speaker 1>calmed me down. That was time when I felt because

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<v Speaker 1>clearly things a little bit on the slide, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought if we could get when we got that one back,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that was that was really quite important. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you managed to get that one back because at then

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<v Speaker 1>Advance sort of took the momentum was with Laird at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, and as you know, match play can be

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<v Speaker 1>very easily a game of momentum. Laird Shepherd had lost

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh all, but he came right back and won

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve. We're back to Monty for his commentary and

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<v Speaker 1>the very tough twelve hold I think probably the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>on the course. He won that one with a great

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<v Speaker 1>part put um to go back to four um. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though four down six to play, he's probably still thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not gonna be my day. But those

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<v Speaker 1>those those that stretching um, that sort of closing stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it is brilliant for match play because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a drivable path four, there's a really long path three,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a part five in there. There's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>birdie chances if you get your drive away. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant stretch for for what you know, proved to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good, good end to the final if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a needtral viewer, the twelve was probably the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was playing, probably the hardest sol on the course.

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<v Speaker 1>We hold a good part for par there so I

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<v Speaker 1>might actually get the whole bat straight away, which was

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<v Speaker 1>massive to get that back, do you know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>think probably one of the keys for me was the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve in the afternoon, because by that stage he'd got

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<v Speaker 1>down to I think it was at five down. Shepherd

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<v Speaker 1>had a really good part at twelve, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>it back to four down with six to play. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's still heavy odds against. He's not going to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>is he. But suddenly you've got a little sniff of

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. So I think at twelve we all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looked at each other and said, hey, four down,

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<v Speaker 1>six to play. You can feel the momentum just changing

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and it becomes possible. Still unlikely, but possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the crowd of I mean, just because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to see someone get beaten really badly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little Scottish fag on my my bag

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<v Speaker 1>from an event I played in the States. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>think that maybe got me some there some some fans

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But I think I managed to recruit all

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<v Speaker 1>the Narrow Lady members as large Shepherd supporters on my

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<v Speaker 1>way around because they all they all asked, so who

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<v Speaker 1>are you and I said, oh, they're Shepherd's girlfriend, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, come on loud. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is everyone just loves a story, don't they. And everyone,

0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.240
<v Speaker 1>although obviously you know I feel from onto immensely. But

0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone I think loved the story of Lard coming back

0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.079
<v Speaker 1>because it was just so unbelievable. And you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had people who I met and Suspectattion, just locals, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>saying well, it's practically Scottish with that name because he's

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<v Speaker 1>like Lard Shepherd, you know. And I shaved that to

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<v Speaker 1>LOI was like, everybody here wants you to win a

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<v Speaker 1>home and every how you're playing just to try and

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<v Speaker 1>get a game of it. Like they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just go home and just be like, oh, well done

0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to to money, which they've probably were being happy with,

0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.640
<v Speaker 1>but everybody would want Layer too to fight back and

0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.000
<v Speaker 1>put up a good fight what he was doing to

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<v Speaker 1>even beat to get that score back to being if

0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.480
<v Speaker 1>he'd lost four and three, you've been like, well, well

0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.520
<v Speaker 1>done in the afternoon, like you played, you played well,

0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you managed to make a game with it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's literally never over until it's over. I never

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<v Speaker 1>really thought after that that I was going to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really thought about losing. I just thought I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to use the fact that I am so far

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<v Speaker 1>down to my advantage and just try and pile the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on and you know, even at four down before

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<v Speaker 1>to play, I never thought, well, hey it's over. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't over, but it still wasn't looking good four forward

0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.839
<v Speaker 1>to play at that point. Yeah, you know it when

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<v Speaker 1>four holes on the truck is unusual. I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, you know, how often do you see that

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<v Speaker 1>in match playing? Ryder Cups and things like? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you see that often people winning four holes on

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<v Speaker 1>the truck. And he was standing on the fifteenth tea

0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.560
<v Speaker 1>with his head against the team marker, like deflated, like thinking,

0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.800
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is over an hour. I mean,

0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a picture that tells a story. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like Layer, I was like, you're you're still on the

0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.920
<v Speaker 1>tea here. It's had a good drive. You smashed one

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<v Speaker 1>right down the pen over the back of the green.

0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Monty didn't have a great drive. I can't imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>neres that we're going through Monty's body at that point really,

0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I had a good drive on fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>just over the back of the green. He y an

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<v Speaker 1>average drop drive and chipped up to about fifteen ft

0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and missed the part and I ended up getting up

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<v Speaker 1>and down. So when you're three down, the three to

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<v Speaker 1>play hit quality tea shot on sixteen and put the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on and and Monty ends up pin in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit right into some some bushes and having to

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<v Speaker 1>take a drop and end up. You know, Monty still

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<v Speaker 1>hold like for five there, so he made me work

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<v Speaker 1>to make my mask or four and a half five

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<v Speaker 1>for for for par and sixteen and sixteen it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a tough tea shot because the wind really picked

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<v Speaker 1>up and it was into off the left and for

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<v Speaker 1>me hitting a fade that's not a wind I like,

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<v Speaker 1>um and lead you know, stood up and in a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant drive and I put a really good swing on

0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it as well. But as soon as I hit the ball,

0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the wind really gusted and just kept knocking it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Took a heavy bounce off the edge of the fail

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<v Speaker 1>into a gorse bush and um again, it didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I gave that hole to him and made a

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<v Speaker 1>really good bogie from a pretty impossible position and he's

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<v Speaker 1>still had work to do for par and in fairness

0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to him, he made a good part. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>really when it all started to all the nerves. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when Lairds started to get really nervous. Again. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, because it's it's on again. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>only two don't now two to go? And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus got a chance again. So seventeen is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>short part. Four there there's a so a hazard the

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<v Speaker 1>runs before the green, so you can't take it on

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<v Speaker 1>the driver, but you just hit sort of three iron

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<v Speaker 1>down the fairway trying to keep it short, some some

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<v Speaker 1>fairway bunkers, and we both hit decent tea shots and

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<v Speaker 1>at that point probably it started to pick up the

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<v Speaker 1>windiest have been all day, and it was into the wind,

0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:48.040
<v Speaker 1>had hundred fifty seven yards to pen um and the

0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>green all slopes right to left, so um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually ended up chipping a six iron in from

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<v Speaker 1>that distance, which is a lot of club and that

0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of shot can be quite difficult when you are

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<v Speaker 1>quite nervous, because you automatically want to go and hit

0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.960
<v Speaker 1>something hard just it's just easier to do under pressure.

0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:12.800
<v Speaker 1>But hey, again, just a quality, quality go off shot

0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 1>at the right time. Can you put the pressure on

0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:25.399
<v Speaker 1>it upon it? Yes, he can into about five ft

0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you just stay he's thinking, oh my god,

0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.119
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? The shot he hit into seventeen was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite shots he hit that day because

0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it was just so good, um, you know, to hit

0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that shot at that time, and I mean Monty made

0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a great up and down to put the pressure on

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Laird as well, so equally, there were so many points

0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.240
<v Speaker 1>where mont who had a part to win or it

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 1>could have been over for a load, but he just

0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.200
<v Speaker 1>managed to keep it going somehow. I was still pretty

0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.360
<v Speaker 1>calm at this point, you know. Obviously I hoped I

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<v Speaker 1>would have closed is a match up by this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I just kept saying to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>just keep playing golf. Forget what's on the line, forget

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.160
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Just keep playing golf. Stick to your

0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.320
<v Speaker 1>game plan which has worked all week and it's going

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to work again. Um. And I made a super part

0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.880
<v Speaker 1>down the hill and seventeen, well, Monty hold a great

0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.720
<v Speaker 1>part actually going down the hill and had a double

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<v Speaker 1>break in it, which we had a long time looking

0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>at it, but he hold it and it did feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that was that that was a clutch punt he

0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.919
<v Speaker 1>had to make that. Really. He ended up making a

0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.440
<v Speaker 1>great up and down the end for his part and

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:41.400
<v Speaker 1>left me with a slipperest of six ft to keep

0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it going, and um, I think I said, there's someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think as humans, you work, you know you

0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.840
<v Speaker 1>we work best when we know exactly what we need

0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to do. Um, And on those last holes and knew

0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.520
<v Speaker 1>those that that part for example, I had on seventeen

0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>keep the match going. You know, it's this needs to

0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.840
<v Speaker 1>go in the hole. It's not like a stroke player

0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>where like it's nice that this goes and the whole

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.879
<v Speaker 1>it needs to go in. And that sort of made

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<v Speaker 1>it easy for me just sort of had to know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, black out and just sort of go

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<v Speaker 1>through the routine and just go, you know, I've got

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.119
<v Speaker 1>to hit a quarter part and this has got to

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<v Speaker 1>go in the hole and and end up hole on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, becauld you think if that was someone

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<v Speaker 1>else and I was watching, I feel like, oh my god,

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, your hands must be shaken, And I think,

0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.640
<v Speaker 1>then send back to me that where your hands shaken

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and you know where you struggling to sort of keep composure.

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But I was very very calm on the outside. Um,

0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the inside offs is very excited. But

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just had this sort of knowledge of

0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.159
<v Speaker 1>this needs to go in and that helped lot and

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<v Speaker 1>was lost. So the last song six holes that we

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.120
<v Speaker 1>played that day, so still had to hold his body part.

0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And again it was a massive cheer, and you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>to the eighteenth t going like wow, how you managed

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to get to st and still have a chance. It's

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like crazy. I have to say that I probably think

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:19.639
<v Speaker 1>walking to I was I was going to win the match,

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.640
<v Speaker 1>just because you know that the sort of situation with

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>having a big lead and then being paid back to

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 1>going down the last hole and that T shirt is

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a very difficult T shirt, especially if you're fighting a

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.400
<v Speaker 1>bit of a right miss. And I managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>up and play. It was just in the rights of semi.

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 1>But it was fine. Once again we hear from Laird's

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<v Speaker 1>dead even going up to eighteen, I wasn't thinking about

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and winning it. Um maybe I wasn't allowing myself to

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>think you could win it. I thought just that the

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 1>chance of the prospect. We've already produced the semi miracle

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>having got to the eighteen. So and then that was

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<v Speaker 1>weird because the Laird actually drove first and he hit

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it and slightly right in the semi. It was fine.

0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.399
<v Speaker 1>His girlfriend Chloe came up always just hit it a tree.

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, that's lead ball there, and she suddenly

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>goes and we all go because we didn't see it.

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.879
<v Speaker 1>It's so far back, so well it must be Montes

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.560
<v Speaker 1>hit the tree. So we suddenly thought, oh my god,

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>well you know, maybe just maybe we will get down

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the gap down the thirty seventh. So yeah, she she

0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.639
<v Speaker 1>had looked complete terror look on her face and she

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:31.120
<v Speaker 1>thought it lead hit the tree. And I panicked because

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was lead hitting and I thought he

0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>topped it off the tea like just one of those

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.399
<v Speaker 1>crazy things. I thought, oh no, that's it, and like

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it was panic it was. It was definitely bandics drive

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 1>up the right and it was nearly into the bushes.

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't really tell how to ask the rest stilling and

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>playing rested. Yeah, and then Monty was taking a practice

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>rain and I don't know how he mused to do,

0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but he smashed his driver off the tea marker one

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>more time today. Well that's not going to do him

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>many favors. He's just just hit the sign. Hope that's

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not done any damage. So he was kind of like laughing,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.399
<v Speaker 1>but you knew there wasn't like relapsed laugh if you

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. No, it's another poor drive. I

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:27.160
<v Speaker 1>think he's looking very anxiously after this one. What unexpected

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 1>drama and the final of the Don's Amateur Championship again

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Scout le Monties Dad and Caddy, and then we

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>have a slight incident on the t t which I'm

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>sure you're probably here saw. He was actually looking to

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 1>hit driver into the rough down the left hand side,

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.400
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, having played the course or a a week,

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it was the rough down that side was actually not

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>bad and you also got the extra benefit of coming

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>out quite hot out of the rough and consequently you

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>could get more distance very often. So he was actually

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 1>looking to try and get up up to the green

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and two by deliberately going for the roff it took

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>took me out of bounds, out of play um and

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>he obviously didn't want to end up in the fairway bunkers.

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>So it was a deliberate ploy actually to hit the

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>ball down the left hand side into the rough h

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>and he he then just had a bad swing. Monty

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Scousel had been up in this match since the fifth

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>hole in the morning. He was eight up with nineteen

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to play, five up with seven to play four up

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>with four to play, and now with one hole left,

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>his lead is one. Made a poor swing. It clipped

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the edge of the tree, fell down and went onto

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the path and the drive on we went like maybe

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty ars. I'm standing there going all right, let's just

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>got an extra hols because you couldn't really see how

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a lad of meet washing apart from where it was,

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and then you're thinking Monty is going to be struggled

0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>now four bar so well you can see his ball

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>there on the path. That's the front te box to

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the left of him, so that's in the penalty area,

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 1>and only justin bones made the same decision to hit

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball to the rough again because he felt that

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>was the best way to get to the green in

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>two and so in fact that the people who watching

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the crowd had to be moved back because we said

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>that we're aiming to where they were all standing. And

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>he had a very good two hour and actually into

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the into that roff m and as you said, he

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had a pup for pat for a five, which after

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.479
<v Speaker 1>the drive was probably didn't seem very likely. How has

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Monty got this part for five? Like, I don't think

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>people could maybe realize how good like it was from

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>wanting to fair enough he's done that, but also to

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>compose himself and then hit those shots to give himself

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a reasonable chance for five. You know, it was pretty impressive.

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>I was standing by that partner. I would say from

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a foot out, I would have I'd laid pretty heavy

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>older that was in the whole. It's only oh the

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>whole the stays out. If that had gone in, It's

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 1>amazing how differently my you know what would be but

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>ends up just slipping out and then you're you're back

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>down extra holes. And obviously I was the much happier

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>person to be doing that. So oh what I'll find

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>all those and after thirty six holes worth, at one

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>stage they had shoveled big eight down finishes all square

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>or into extra holes. You went from having no chance

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and like no chance too, you're all square and you're

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 1>probably at that point in the favorite to went again

0:25:54.960 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like because all the pressure is back on like you Yeah,

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>it's just like wow, to honest man, I could have

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>had a better part. It was. It was ahead of

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I wanted to with the right speed, and

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it it just lipped out. So yeah, it was a

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty stressful walk back to the first year after

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>those fourth holes. Looking back into that, it's pretty cool.

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that Monty would probably agree to have the

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>chance to play a Sun Death playoff. For everything that

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you get for winning the Amateur Championship is you know,

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I think you've struggle to find a situation in Gulf

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>apart from maybe trying to win a major championship that

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is more pressure than that because you are It's very cliche,

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's sort of you know, it definitely does, when

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you like it or not, change your life a little

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>bit for that year that you are champion. And to

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>play a Sun Death playoff, to get to go and

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>play in the Open and playing the Masters and and

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>play in the US Open and off is is a

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>high pressure environment, and you know, it was pretty cool

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>to just be a part of that. For me, my

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>dad were walking to the tea and there were loads

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of people at this point and trying to get the

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>trolley through and onto the tea. It was a night there,

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but I managed to calm myself down. And even though

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd obviously let my lead slip, like Lead said, I

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like I handed it to him. It's not

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>like I finished, you know, with four double bogies in

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a row. He played brilliantly and I can't emphasize that enough.

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, as I said earlier, earlier in our conversation,

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>in a thirty six whole match, both of you are

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>going to have your run at some point, and he

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>left his right till the end to have his. And

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>he played beautifully under under the pressure that he must

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>have been under, especially on seventeen when I when I

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>hold that part and hit me, probably thought, you know,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>his eight nine ft looked a lot longer then. And

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.959
<v Speaker 1>I remember the referee who was walking around with them

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>announcing the scores after you know, monton us is the

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>part on eighteen, well on the third six and he

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>announces the score goes to actual holes And I just said,

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>but you didn't think you'd been needing to say that,

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>and he said no. In my my dad just you know,

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>he just said, right, let's just win, let's win this

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>next hole. Um, and my coaches in my ears saying

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you've got this. My coaching flown up to watch, which

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>is really nice, and he said, you know you've got this,

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>come on, keep going, um. And the strange thing that

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember that walking to the first he was feelings

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, wow, you've you've really let this go,

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>but also feelings of I was here in the in

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the round of sixteen where I messed up on a

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>team to win the match and Mr four ft partum

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and I said, you won that game, So I said,

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do the same again. I was so

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>nervous I could barely speak to my caddy. I was

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to walk as slowly as possible and just trying

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to deep take some deep breaths and get the sort

0:28:54.920 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of get the nervous energy out before each shot. But um,

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>as soon as I got over the ball, I had

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>this um. That sort of was my calm place for

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the week, which is useful, you know, at the end

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of the day, looking at it as a thirty six

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>hole match. We were even after thirty six holes against

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>each other. So I thought to myself, just win the playoffs,

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that was my mindset. I cut forgot

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>everything that had happened in the last four holes. I

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>knew I've been playing some good golf. I just need

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to make some good swings. Um and uh and yeah.

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we went down the first and you just cannot

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>bring yourself to think that this is he's going to

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>win this. It's just I mean, yeah, what the chances

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of that? But you had the momentum at the going

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>down the thirty seventh, and despite trying to stop thinking

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>about it, you're also thinking, well, it would be extraordinary

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>now if you didn't win. Keep down on too breathe.

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, just keep breathing. Like he was extremely nervous,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:57.479
<v Speaker 1>like basically having hard competitions. Monty ended up not had

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a great drive and he had his second shot short

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of the green. So you mean he maybe had like

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>forty yards chip or a pitch or whatever you want

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to call it. I had a pretty decent drive. Mont

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>sit little the left and uh and then has to

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>chop out of the raft just shot the green, and

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>then he's sort of thinking, Okay, here we go. Um

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>My caddie actually told me after we finished that he

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>gave me a number to the pin that was five

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>yards shorter than what it actually was, but he didn't

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>want me to go over the back with the adrenaline

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and there was a little short shot. Had

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>actually had certainly six yards to the flag, and that

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>at this point, well I leased the flag, so I

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>knew the guardage, but you don't want to go along

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>with that green. So I purposely told layer of the the

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>yards that was short of the pin so that he

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go long, and he left it like almost exactly

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>on the yardage I told him, but it was like

0:30:56.240 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>six yards short of the whole. That's perfect at the

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>time undercooked. And then Monty had a world class pet

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>shot up to about a fruit. So now I'm thinking

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>flirte three process. I'm going to be human because I've

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>told him the whole yard. But he managed to managed

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to put it up close. So even in spite of

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>five yards, Shepard made an easy part in the first

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>playoff hole. Well, Scousel successfully scrambled to extend the match

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and left myself at a fifty yard pitch and he

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>knocked on a knocked onto the green to about twenty

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So I thought, Jesus, this this is going to be it.

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>But again, one short at a time and probably you know,

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever happens in my career wherever I go on to

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>do with golf, one of the best shots I've ever

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>hit in my life, that's with the pitch into the

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>first playoffole under the pressure I was under, and coming

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>back to my point, really, Matt that I've always the

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>short game generally. He did a lot of that during

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the week, and of course, you know it became apparent,

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>particularly on the in the final, but he was doing

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that that sort of shot quite a lot all week,

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and also his long putting was pretty good. Scout's lag

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>putting was in fact very good. At that point. He

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>hadn't had a three point all day, and standing on

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the tea of the second playoff for Laird still had

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>honors a poor T shirt of the second extra Month

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>had a great t shot, but even still then I

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>just thought, you know, I don't know if something told

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>me that you haven't come all this way to lose.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Checking back in with Laird's dad and girlfriend, basically, like

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>probably most people my age, I tried difficulty actually picking

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>up the ball in the air. Time well, I watched

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the swing and the reactions and then then guys, beware

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to look, and I just remembered, my god, Laird was

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>over trying to overhit that. It was so pumped. I mean,

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it hits it all pretty hard, but he just study

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>over too much effort into it, and definitely that's not good.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>All I saw was the hand come off the club

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and signal left and I just thought, oh no, like

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but I again felt like that was it. You know,

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>he had hit a poor T shot out of possession.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Monty then hit a good T shot and in um

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>lowd punch out recovery. And again even the recovery shot

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been one of the key shots for Lord

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>because he had to get it far enough up the

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>right side that he had an angle to that pin,

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>because again it wasn't an easy pen. Meanwhile, Scousel thinks

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>he hit one of his best T shirts of the day.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I must have pumped it three eight down there went

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>straight for the tea peg. I saw a bounce in

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the fairway. It was quite a tight

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>T shirt that second hole, and I thought, sweet, I

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>have a little wedge in my hand, I can get

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that close. And obviously we lead him trouble. I don't

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>know his life was like. I actually haven't seen it

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>on any of the footage, but apparently he was. It

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was okay because there was a lot of head that

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>from where I was standing on the fairway with a

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of heather around him, and heather obviously is is

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>not friendly for goold for golfers, so he he actually

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>had a very good shot, got in about fifty yards

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>short right. But from there I still thought, you know,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough up and down and if I can

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>just knock this on the green two parts, I'm not

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>going to lose the whole um. But when I got

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to my ball, it was in the left semi and

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to this to this day, I mean, I still don't

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>know how it finished in the left semi. I haven't

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>again haven't seen the footage, but that ball bounced in

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the fairway and it must have kicked

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>hard left and to finish in the left semi. And

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>it was just sitting down a fraction um and down

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>wind with a with a short wedge, very difficult to agree,

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>which was sloping away from me, very difficult to control,

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and I was kind of in between shots. And the

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.760
<v Speaker 1>ball came out just so hot, so hot, landed probably

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>third a foot beyond the pen, to ft beyond the pen,

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and just you know, no spin on it released onto

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the back edge of the green on the fringe. So

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they probably weren't that far in distance, but Monty was

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like on the green where's load was sure of the

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 1>pen and lead a cracking pet sharp and maybe five

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>foot something like that. Nice touch to sit there. Yeah,

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>then he played under the pressure. Yeah. Then to do

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that when he needed to, I think just shows great,

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>great character. And again, like say, after being out of position,

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>he needed to put it somewhere close to get himself

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a chance. So Marty hadn't looked like three part an

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>all day, no chance, And because his pace and the

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Greenes were brilliant, and he was holding out well and

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>he potted up to maybe they were fairly equal distance,

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Monty was just slightly Yeah, Monty much me slightly closer

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>than Laird. And I was like, just try and just

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>put a good stroke on it and trust, just trust

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>what you've been doing. It probably was a case of

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 1>whoever hold that, who ever got to go first, and

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>if they hold that, that was going to be the

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>winning part. I'll done. Laird Shepherd when he holds the

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>pressure was obviously straight on me and all of them.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Sudden the shorter one becomes that much longer. It was.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>It was also a little tricky, it was. It was

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a tricky little left or writer. And consequently it was

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>always going to be a tough pat, but I think

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>it would been much easier fled and these things. Yeah,

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and then it's down to Monty, isn't it. Monty Scalcel

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>has a put to keep it alive. He's been solid

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>over those puts all day. Oh not this time though,

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to learn when oh my god, you know,

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and it up finishing on that green and yeah, I

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>couldn't really believe what had happened, but it was very well.

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>He'd had to be over. I just just misread the

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>part of it. I sort of hit it left edge

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't move and it lipped out, and yeah,

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it really sad. It was a sad ending, and I

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>think for everyone watching it was probably one of those

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>endings you wanted someone to hold a part to win

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it because it had been such a great final. Um

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>so sort of a shame that had to be had

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>to be ended by a miss putt. But you know,

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that's golf. That is one of the greatest comebacks you

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 1>could ever asked to see. It's what makes the game

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of golf and in match play so great, though, I

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>think is you get those little situations and you know,

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they're working your favor and sometimes they don't, but

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing to be scraced about. And I think

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it was just, you know, the golf and girls weren't

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.240
<v Speaker 1>weren't there for him on that, you know, that particular moment,

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>but they were for lead and great for him, absolutely

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 1>great fam lad shattered it down after seventeen olds, four

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>down with four to play, and in the end that's

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the man from Sussex who comes through to become an

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>amateur champion at the thirty eight pold and these two

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>good friends and how they believe what they have gone

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>through today. It's the kind of final wall. You don't

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>jump around, you don't punch there, you're just so relieved

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and unbelieving. It was like shock when it lipped out.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Just mentally, I wasn't expecting that and it was like, I,

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, moment he's only gone and want it

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 1>um Yeah, I just wasn't expecting to see that happen.

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>All the injuries, all the years of toil, all the

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>emotions spill over as you would understand at such a moment.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>It's actually funny have reduced a few grown mental tears

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:00.479
<v Speaker 1>at that moment, and it was, you know, I can't

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>say it was just one of those situations where, um,

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know lad Well and knowing what he'd

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>been through. If there was one other player in that

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.760
<v Speaker 1>field that I would have wanted to win that final

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>other than myself, you know, it would have been Lead,

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>And it was. I was obviously distraught, you know, there's

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>no there's no buttering it up. I was absolutely gutted,

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>as competitive as they come, and I wanted to win

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that final so badly. Um. But at the end of

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the day, I think, you know, my parents always taught

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>me that, Um, you know, you try as hard as

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you can, but once it's over, whether you've won or

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you've lost, you you lose and win with with with grace,

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and you respect your opposition. And and there was the

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>great thing about the whole day was that we there

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was such a great respect between the both of us,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think everyone picked up on that. There wasn't

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, too many fist pumps and getting in each

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>other's face, and and the game was played in great spirit.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And and that's that's the beauty of golf, you know,

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's how I believe it should be played.

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I think Lead thinks the same after be be finished

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.240
<v Speaker 1>and was just gonna shake his hand. You know, I

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I honestly didn't have any words for him, and you know,

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I just said, you know, you played great, and um,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wish I could have maybe been a

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>bit more, been able to say a bit more that

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>made any sense to that point, but I just I

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was speaking. I was, I just didn't know what to say.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>But obviously, you know, I think that's as well reason

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>why I wasn't maybe outwardly, you know, fist pumping and

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>really happy that I had won, because it just didn't

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>seem appropriate. You know, it was a real battle all day,

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, it was one of those situations

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 1>where I think just like mutual respect for each other

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>took over, and then the whole day it was played

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in such good spirits and there's a lot of good

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>goods in the morning and stuff, you know, because you know,

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:57.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, going out of that second eighteen as well,

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, um, someone said to me, I kinder if

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it was, but saying no, you're going to make him

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>put everything now, And because I needed to, and I

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>think on the third hole, we did good good and

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was we were basically same distance, like

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>three or fourf you think it was. And I said,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll just pick up and go to the next hole.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And my Caddy was sort of looking at me, like,

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you should have done that, and I

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>said to him, you know, I don't want to win.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to win like that and if I

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 1>want to earn it, and you know, Monty to serve

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>so much credit for how well he played and he

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>made he made it into a real, real battle, and

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>so I think that was just what came out at

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the end. It was just you know, giving him a

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>hug and just go And maybe that was that was something,

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. And you know, it is difficult. You don't

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>know what to say to someone when they've they've had

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>that disappointment and you've obviously had this success and it's

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>just it was it was difficult for both of us,

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>who were both very emotional. If that was me in

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 1>that situation, I would have been probably broken down, like

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>m tears and stuff. And Monty was like it was

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>just I couldn't believe that he managed to hold himself together.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Like true, he's an absolute gent like the game was

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>played and unbelievable spirits there was no Both of them

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted a charge to do well. And quite often you

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>get games and you're playing some day in and you

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>had a good shot and they're like, they don't say anything,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 1>But all day everyone was like you had a good shot.

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Like there was no regardlessly one. It was just a

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 1>great day, like you would have You would have been

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 1>happy if Monty one. Obviously me and LAYERD wanted Layer

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to win, and Monty and his dad wanted Monty to win.

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>But if if he if he'd got to beat or

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>whoever got beat, like you're still going to be happy

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>for the other person winning because the way the game

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>was played, just just the way they are off the course,

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like they're both nice people, Like Monty starts brand new

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and is just yeah, it's a good guy. But he

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>held himself together. Unbelievable. What did What did he say

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to you when you hugged him. I don't know, but

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I just said to him, you're a British amateur champion,

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and I think you just there was too many tears

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>from us both to really get any words out. But

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and I remember saying to him, you can smile now,

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>because I think there was just so much shock and

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>an emotion. I think once I gave him a Huggy

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.959
<v Speaker 1>just collapsed. Um. But yeah, it makes me emotional thinking

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>about it, just because, like you know, it was. It

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a powerful moment, I guess. And yeah,

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>something that you dream of being there, you know when

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>when he does something like that, so hopefully be there

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>from anymore to come. But but yeah, I don't. I

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think he had many words anyway. At that point

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I began to cry. To be honest, what emotional pair

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>we are? Chloe got in there first, Well I think

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Andy got in there first, then Chloe. Yeah. Then I

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>marched on the green and gave him, gave him my

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 1>hug basically, you know, just I've just seen something just incredible. Really,

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I just I said to him out just I will

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>never see anything like that in my life again that,

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, not the winning of it, but the way

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you want it not. Honestly, I feel sorry for Monty

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't read My sympathy is great players right,

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>But to anyone watching, you'll know that he didn't just

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>give it away. He holds some quality parts. In sixteen

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and seventeen, when the pressure was truly on, even his

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>up and down. The first extra hole was just top drawer,

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think he should be very very proud of that,

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>despite obviously what happened. Monty played so great all day

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and such a great bow. I mean, ah, I mean,

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe here. And one of my good

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>friends after we finished this was phone in me and

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>he kept phoning me, so I thought, I answer this

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and picked up and yeah, like what like down the

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>phone is just sanking what And I said, I don't know,

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like, what just happened? Yeah, because he

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>only checked the scores at halftime. And I saw some

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>comments on the on the when they put the picture

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>up of champion Large Shepherd on there. There are no

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>social media, and some comments were like wait what like

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>how and then they're like someone's like I'm going to

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>have to go back and watch live stream because I

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:51.479
<v Speaker 1>want to know what happened and and yeah, and it's

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>just it's just sport, isn't it. I Mean, sport creates

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>so many moments like those, and I think that's why

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we love it so much. That's a match story. He

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 1>told of the dark days of January, standing and the range,

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking that was it. His game had gone the future

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>plans had gone, he wouldn't be playing golf. To come

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>back from there, and to come back from eight down

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>after seventeen to before down before to play, and to

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>win the amateur championship. With all that that entails, you

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>just can't ask for a better story. Well done, commiserations

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>montese Ca so but Laird Shepherd as the amateur champion,

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>what a fantastic victory from all of us here, Pat Now,

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>thanks for your company by for that. Both Court Neddler

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and I agree as we've been doing these interviews and

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>editing this podcast, there are so many lessons within this story.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Overcoming adversity, obviously, determination, family, friendships, relationships, and sportsmanship still matter.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>These two young men, in both winning and losing, not

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>only made us better play years, but by getting to

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>know them, we feel like we're better people. So we

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 1>thank them for that. And before we get to Part four,

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 1>where you'll get further reflections from the entire cast of characters,

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>plus we have more about Laird Shepherd's future as an

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>amateur and a pro bad yardages and who might be

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.920
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