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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 8: Well, what a weekend it was. It is always great

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Speaker 8: to be back in the United States of America. Monday,

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Speaker 8: September nine, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 8: Checking back in episode two sixteen of the Anakin Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 8: Kenneth Allen Florian, Good morning, my man looking strong.

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Speaker 9: Today on video looking pretty Jack, Thank you, No man,

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Speaker 9: I got to get on it with the diet. But you,

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Speaker 9: my friend, look a little leaner. Is that from Abu Dhabi?

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Speaker 9: You look like you cut some weight there.

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Speaker 8: I just ate so much food downstairs that I said

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Speaker 8: to my wife, I think I'd probably put on eight

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Speaker 8: or ten pounds since I walked out of that arena.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 8: I was probably one hundred and forty seven pounds walking

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Speaker 8: out of that. Oh my god, at three o'clock am

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Speaker 8: Abu Dhabi ta after the pay per view. So a

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Speaker 8: lot to get into today, and a lot of people

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Speaker 8: want to hear what Ken Flow has to say about

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Speaker 8: Beim Nomago Medov and his greatness. And I think big picture,

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of people want to hear from

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Speaker 8: you as far as his grappling ability compared to some

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Speaker 8: of these other guys that we glorify and put on

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Speaker 8: a pedestal. But as far as the broadcast atmosphere was concerned,

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Speaker 8: I'm going to take you back to June eighth, twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 8: seen Jonathan Anack Kenneth Florian on the broadcast in Fort

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Speaker 8: de Laser, Brazil on the goddamn Equator. And you know

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Speaker 8: our late producer Bruce Connell came down to the broadcast

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Speaker 8: booth and he's like, John, you know, the first prelim

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Speaker 8: isn't here and your shirt is completely soaked through. Go

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Speaker 8: get your backup shirt. It's like, dude, I don't bring

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Speaker 8: just had to go with it. So I live in

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Speaker 6: I know South Florida heat, I know Vegas heat. There

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Speaker 8: Heat like Abu Dhabi heat. This was just a totally

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Speaker 8: different experience. You know, they say Vegas hair dry in

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Speaker 8: your face, hair dryer in your face. Florida, the humidity's awful.

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Speaker 8: This is just straight desert can flow.

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Speaker 6: It was. It was treacherous, dude. Middle East heat is

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Speaker 6: no joke.

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Speaker 9: I remember when I was visiting the troops in Qatar

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Speaker 9: They had flags outside indicating whether it was safe to

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Speaker 9: a completely different kind of beasts. But dude, I'm I'm

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Speaker 9: sure you were staying hydrated out there. Note, did you

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Speaker 9: have like gallons of water?

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Speaker 8: I had a little bit, but you know, the challenges

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Speaker 8: And granted, when you're sweating through the broadcast, you do

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Speaker 8: lose some of that water. So I did not use

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Speaker 8: But yeah, no, for whatever reason, even though it was

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Speaker 8: First one is in the can and it goes to

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Speaker 8: Kabibner mago Metov.

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Speaker 6: And there's a lot of different angles to this main event.

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Speaker 8: Obviously a ton of stuff on Dustin, poorrier and how

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Speaker 8: with all the pressure on him. These guys seem to

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Speaker 6: I thought he was largely dominant in submitting Dustin.

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Speaker 9: Over the weekend without a doubt. And listen, here's the thing.

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Speaker 9: Everybody does know what's coming and they still can't stop it.

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Speaker 6: That's what's so frustrating.

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Speaker 9: You know, you can look at a guy like a

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Speaker 9: a reason why the graces, you know, prove their superiority

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Speaker 9: over other martial arts, and why it was overall a

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Speaker 9: much safer and smarter game plan to go out there

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Speaker 6: And trading like a lot of these guys, you know.

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Speaker 9: And when you go out there and you clinch and

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Speaker 9: you're the better wrestler, you're going to put them on

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Speaker 9: their ass. And that's what Habib Normaga Metov does best.

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Speaker 9: He safely gets to the clinch. For the most part,

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Speaker 6: He's absolutely relentless.

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Speaker 6: He's just so efficient with his wrestling.

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Speaker 9: He forces you to have to use things outside of

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Speaker 9: And he's kind of just resting on you, put you

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Speaker 8: And I know, as an elite soccer player, you can

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Speaker 8: To use the fence to his advantage to such an extent,

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Speaker 6: Two things.

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Speaker 9: First, let's talk about on the feet what Poorier could

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Speaker 9: have done to prevent that. Number One, you can't back

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Speaker 6: Sweep right to reverse the position.

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Speaker 9: Not an easy thing to do against an experienced grappler

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Speaker 6: But that's where Dustin was really struggling.

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Speaker 9: Habib had right, had the proper head position and positioning

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Speaker 8: So Pourier had two moments in the fight, although and

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Speaker 8: talking to Kabib on the post show on espn US

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Speaker 8: after the fact, he sort of insinuated that it was

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Speaker 8: really one moment the right hand maybe look like it

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Speaker 8: hurt Kabi more than it really did. By the way,

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Speaker 8: this is a fighter who in twenty eight professional fights

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Speaker 8: now has not so much has been knocked down, and

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Speaker 8: of course the chin held up under that one seminal blow.

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Speaker 8: I guess if you want to call it that poorier had,

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Speaker 8: but the guillotine right, We've seen UFC Featherweight, We've heard

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Speaker 8: UFC featherweight contender Brian Ortega come out and say, if

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Speaker 8: I had Kabib in that guillotine, I would have finished

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Speaker 8: the fight. Kabib acknowledged that the Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt,

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Speaker 8: That guillotine and maybe why I know without having all

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Speaker 9: Listen, I think a great guillotine is an excellent equalizer

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Speaker 6: It was something that I tried to avoid.

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Speaker 9: I didn't understand it very well. I think you know

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Speaker 6: That was pretty fun?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was all right, you know, I thought

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Speaker 8: So I texted you after the fights as we were

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Speaker 3: I mean. Like it wasn't like people didn't see it.

438
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Speaker 3: We witnessed it, you know what I mean. The guy's

439
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 3: pushing out the hole in front of him. He's doing

440
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 3: everything to get under this guy's skin. And you know,

441
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 3: like in a weird way, but uh, man, what a

442
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 3: great speech with the donation thing, and you could just

443
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 3: even know what he's saying, you know, why is this

444
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Speaker 3: happening to me?

445
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Speaker 4: Just I always liked him.

446
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 3: I like him even more now Dustin Flourier Again, great kid.

447
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 3: Obviously he's doing a lot of great stuff. So that's

448
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 3: off to him too. Uh, But I did think he

449
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 3: was gonna do a little better, and I think that's

450
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 3: probably why he's frustrated a little bit. But look, no,

451
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 3: no honor lost with this guy. Man, he's more than everybody.

452
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, in regards to this switch, you know,

453
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 9: you bring up a good point, Ray, I think you know,

454
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Speaker 9: as a coach, as a fighter, when you're relying on

455
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Speaker 9: one technique to try to get it done for you, you know,

456
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 9: if he takes it down, you just got to hit

457
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Speaker 9: the switch. That's not the way it goes. Habief's seeing

458
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Speaker 9: the switch before the guy's been wrestling tot.

459
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying exactly, you.

460
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Speaker 6: Got to understand the position.

461
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Speaker 9: And also, I think Ray, you know, for me watching

462
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Speaker 9: I think there was a flaw on his fork just

463
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Speaker 9: backing straight up, I think really allowed Habib to just

464
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Speaker 9: do whatever he wanted out there.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, what out of that look? And again that

466
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Speaker 3: you're what you're saying, so I'm just bringing up something

467
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Speaker 3: that you could see they at least work something, but right.

468
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Speaker 6: Right, and that didn't go.

469
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Speaker 3: And he tried it twice, I think, and the other

470
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Speaker 3: mentally here bro right, Yeah, mentally, I think that broke him.

471
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Speaker 3: I think they planned for that, you know, and you

472
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Speaker 3: know how it gets in the you know, when you're training,

473
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna get it. You're gonna get it, and that's

474
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Speaker 3: why you gotta be careful with that because then it

475
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 3: sets up if you don't get it, you can have

476
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Speaker 3: definitely have a mental breakdown. And I thought he exploded

477
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: on it nice, but the other guy just read it

478
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: ended up mounting and might think a couple of it was.

479
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, I agree with you, but you know,

480
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: like again, I I would love to have two or

481
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: three months to game plan to be you know what

482
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Speaker 3: I mean, And it's just that that's what I'm trying.

483
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I know what I'm hopping on.

484
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 3: And people probably shut the fuck up. We heard it

485
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Speaker 3: in a million times, but I do. I go back

486
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Speaker 3: to it like I takes it down, like dude, I

487
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm blown away, Like you went five rounds with this guy,

488
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 3: you weren't breaking.

489
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Speaker 6: Well, let's go beat Dan Hooker. Then let's go beat

490
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Speaker 6: Dan Hooker.

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta get that's right. We got to concentrate

492
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Speaker 3: on that fight.

493
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Speaker 6: I mean, let's focus on the present, right.

494
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Speaker 3: We gotta got right now without and that's not and

495
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, that's not an easy fight.

496
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Speaker 4: No tough his nail.

497
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Speaker 3: So, uh, you know we're flying, you know, fifty hours

498
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 3: to get there. It's gonna be uh. It's that that

499
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: alone makes it interesting. But but he's looking great. Not

500
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: I expect a really good fight.

501
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Speaker 9: So but it's quite it's quite a ment a win though,

502
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 9: when you see all these high level fighters that are

503
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 9: getting finished by someone like habib Namaga Metov, and your

504
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 9: guy went five hard rounds and took the fight on

505
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Speaker 9: like twenty four hours. Notice, that's not too shabby.

506
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 6: So you know, again that too shabby.

507
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 9: As a fighter, you will take that mental win, you know.

508
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 9: I think that's a little win that's gonna drive you,

509
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 9: propel you forward. But ray, in regards to Habibramaga Meta,

510
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Speaker 9: I get the feeling that this guy's gonna get to

511
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Speaker 9: thirty and oh and he's going to retire. He's got

512
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Speaker 9: two more fights. I think in my opinion, and then

513
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 9: he's done. What do you think Habib's gonna do. He's

514
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Speaker 9: made a lot of money over the course of his career.

515
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Speaker 3: The last couple of years, well, well, I think they

516
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 3: reported he made six million. And he looks like he

517
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: lives kind of sponting to me, so I'm sure he's

518
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 3: he's in good shape. And I think, again, I think

519
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: this is a guy with his priorities intact, you know

520
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I don't know, and maybe maybe

521
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. Maybe we see him, you know, smacking the

522
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: strip or at the strip club next week. I don't

523
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen, but I think this guy has

524
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 3: his priorities. And if he retires undefeated, I think that

525
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: will be phenomenal because to have the presence of mind,

526
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: to go out on top of your game like that,

527
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: that's a huge statement, because you know, guys just can't

528
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: stop and then they go too long and it kind

529
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: of starts to tarnish everything, you know. I think we're

530
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: kind of seeing it with Bj, and again love Bj Penn,

531
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: but this was a kid that fought anybody, anytime, any place,

532
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: any weight. I kind of think if he could have

533
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: went out on top, he would have been, you know,

534
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: like it would have just been way better for him.

535
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: So that's a hard thing to do, you know what

536
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, yeah, it's you know, you don't want

537
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: to see any sport, you know what I mean. You

538
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: don't want to see it, you know, and we see

539
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: it over and over again. You don't want to remember

540
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: guys like that. I don't anyway, So I think if

541
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: he does that, man, it's phenomenal.

542
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Speaker 8: Yeah, how awesome would that be if he walked away

543
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 8: unblemished at thirty and oh no random DQ's or no

544
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Speaker 8: contest or anything like that. It has certainly been amazing

545
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 8: to watch him get to this point in time. I

546
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 8: just want to quickly before we let you fly, go

547
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 8: back to the mental breakdown of Dustin Pourier, right, because

548
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 8: I think you brought up an excellent point and I

549
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 8: think we all could acknowledge what we saw on the stool,

550
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 8: that he was visibly frustrated to the point of maybe

551
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 8: being mentally taken out of the fight. I want to

552
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 8: just bring it up again because physically this guy is

553
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 8: almost impossible to break, at least on the feet. Ray

554
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 8: like we've seen him in fights, tough fights, obviously justin

555
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 8: Gaichee just beating up his lower body. You know, he

556
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 8: tore his quad in the Geechee fight. He said he's

557
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 8: never experienced pain has pourier like he felt in the

558
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 8: Jim Miller fight with all of those kicks, right, had

559
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 8: to dig deep in the Max Holloway fights, certainly when

560
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 8: Holloway started coming on late in the fight. But in

561
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 8: this fight, all of those qualities intangibly heart things like that.

562
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Speaker 8: I don't know, Habib really has a way of just

563
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 8: taking even the best fighters in the world completely out

564
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Speaker 8: of their realm and their game.

565
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's all where you're comfortable on the feet.

566
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: You know, there's guys you could hit him in the

567
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: head with a bat, you could do whatever you want.

568
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: You get him on the footage. It's a different it's

569
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: a different thing. And I think Kenny, you'll, you know,

570
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: you could speak more about this than than I can.

571
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: But I mean, being on the ground getting more like

572
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: that is really really demoralizing. You know, when you're taking

573
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: shots and you're giving them back, it's it's it's I

574
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: don't it's kind of fun, you know, if that's your like,

575
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, I love that, you know, he'll guy, you

576
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: love him, you don't care. And luckily he had the

577
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: wrestling chops to survive down there and just be mentally

578
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: strong to just you know, get it back to his

579
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: feet and then keep going. But it's a different thing

580
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: when you're getting mulled on the floor and you can't

581
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: get a guy off here. It's very frustrating. And uh,

582
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: you know, this guy's a high level grapple and he's

583
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 3: got a great gas. If it starts to break you,

584
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: he would have he wouldn't have broke on his feet.

585
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that if it's good standing up.

586
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Speaker 3: But on the ground it's a different story.

587
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Speaker 8: Last thing, your two fights over five hundred for the year.

588
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 8: The main event coming up this weekend is Donald Soroni

589
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 8: and Justin Geegee Getche about a two to one favorite.

590
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 8: We pulled the anak Implorian podcast listeners today. Fifty four

591
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Speaker 8: percent of them believe that Gechie will get the finish

592
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Speaker 8: in this fight. Your thoughts on Gaichie SERRONI coming up

593
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 8: here Saturday night?

594
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Speaker 3: Damn, I didn't even think about this fight.

595
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 6: As you could pass.

596
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

597
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: I don't know what so Seroni, he's just fighting too frequently, had.

598
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 8: His all right, he looked great against your guy and

599
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 8: then essentially gave it back against Tony Ferguson a month later.

600
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Speaker 3: And then now he's coming back even Clay.

601
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

602
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: I think the odds are in the gai Chie's favor

603
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: all my man? Well, uh, I'll go with Gichi. Wait, well,

604
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Speaker 3: what thing? I just want to want to clarify something

605
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: because I you know you you you're a phenomenal thing.

606
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: But that interview, Kenny, can you help me with this?

607
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 3: The interview with Jojo Calderwood was what was I listened to?

608
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: But you something was going on. She was hurt, but

609
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 3: not the good hide and yeah kind of then she

610
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: was kind of winking at you and you were getting

611
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: a little nervous. I'm hot, but not that hot, like,

612
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: not the good of what was going on there? Can

613
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: you explain to the list Can you explain to the

614
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: listeners what we were looking at? There?

615
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 6: Will drop more women than anyone out there.

616
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: I mean, let me tell you something.

617
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 3: He trusted that poor girl so bad. I didn't know

618
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: what was going on Eddy, Oh, not the good Hut.

619
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, hut from the I mean I'm like, wow,

620
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean, John, you got to stop. You can't do

621
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: this to these women.

622
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

623
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: When this parat that you have over women, it's just

624
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: absolutely amazing to me.

625
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 6: You're crazy, man. I think we all had heat stroke.

626
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 8: And by the way, I believe her significant other her

627
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 8: boyfriend is her head coach John Woods standing right there,

628
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 8: so I'm not giving Jojo.

629
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Speaker 6: You could totally take him. Dude, you'll be fine. Yeah, well, hey,

630
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: on the feet maybe, but certainly not on the map.

631
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Speaker 3: And you got John listen, John, Remember you got an

632
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: army behind you. That's where you have to realize you

633
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: have an army behind you. Nobody's touching John Addey right,

634
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: are you kidding?

635
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 6: He's a made man. He's a made man.

636
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 4: I appreciate one hundred he's right.

637
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: But first of all, now that I know his fall

638
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: grew up in Seaford, he's a Long Island guy. Tell me,

639
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: I don't even know anymore. This guy's from Long Island.

640
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: I had this discussion with Al.

641
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 4: I can't believe this.

642
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: He rushed over the fact that his roots are in Seaford.

643
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: Long Island.

644
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: I got a call. I gotta talk to your father

645
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: about this.

646
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 6: I really I don't even tell my father that's gonna

647
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 6: be pretty tough. But no, uh I am.

648
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 8: Don't don't ever call me a Long Islander, especially four weeks,

649
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 8: five weeks before we're going to TV Gotten in Boston.

650
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: You're your blood, John, I got the York was is

651
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: his secret Long Island.

652
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 10: New York?

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Speaker 8: Well, because I just came to the realization literally last

654
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Speaker 8: week that I have a lot of New York you know,

655
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Speaker 8: lineage and New York blood running through me.

656
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Speaker 6: It's a hard realization, you know.

657
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Speaker 3: Went on top. Remember that, Joe, Hey on, Hey.

658
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Speaker 8: Your boy Aljo is supposed to join us here two

659
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Speaker 8: minutes ago. I hope it doesn't flake today, but I'm

660
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Speaker 8: excited to talk to your guy. Been spending so much

661
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Speaker 8: time with Henry Shudo. I need a little Aljo fix,

662
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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 3: Let's do get Aljo in the baby a little fun

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Speaker 3: in this podcast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get a little funking. All right.

666
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Speaker 8: Well, thanks for bringing it as always, buddy, We'll talk

667
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Speaker 8: to you next Monday.

668
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Speaker 3: All right, guys, take it easy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a red long a minute every week here on

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Speaker 8: the Anakin Florian Podcast. All right, Well, now with us

671
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Speaker 8: on the guest line, ask promise the number two ranked band.

672
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Speaker 6: Weight in the world.

673
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Speaker 8: But for all intents and purposes. He is the top

674
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Speaker 8: contender at one hundred and thirty five pounds. The funk

675
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Speaker 8: Master Al Jamaine Sterling Al Joe appreciate the time, buddy,

676
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Speaker 8: How are you this morning?

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Speaker 4: Doing good? Already up and after it, got a great

678
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Speaker 4: wrestling workout in this morning the Monday Morning Grind.

679
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Speaker 6: So you got your own podcast now, right?

680
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: Yes? I do the Weekly Scraps.

681
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Speaker 6: So, so you what you've been doing it like six

682
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Speaker 6: months or so or longer?

683
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Speaker 4: I think roughly, yeah, roughly six months actually. I think

684
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Speaker 4: the first episode I did was after I quinta for

685
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Speaker 4: Kevin Lee in Wisconsin.

686
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Speaker 8: Okay, So you know, it took me a while to

687
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Speaker 8: get Ken Flow to sign on the dotted line for

688
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Speaker 8: this podcast because I said to him, you know, once

689
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Speaker 8: we do it, we kind of got to do it

690
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Speaker 8: every week. I mean, your show is called the Weekly Scrap,

691
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Speaker 8: so I guess you got no choice but to be weekly.

692
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, exactly. It's it's it's tougher that I thought

693
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Speaker 4: it was going to be at first, and then you know,

694
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Speaker 4: I still enjoy it because I you know, I was

695
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Speaker 4: doing a lot of Twitter breakdowns and recap and fights

696
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Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Give him my input, and people

697
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: were just asking me to do it podcast and eventually

698
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Speaker 4: I kind of had someone help me set it up

699
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Speaker 4: in still running with it.

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Speaker 8: It's great too because you get those repetitions and you

701
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 8: get used to talking all the time, and then if

702
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 8: you auditioned for TV or something, you know you can

703
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Speaker 8: lean on those skills that you're just developing along the way.

704
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 8: So all right, before we sort of spin this forward

705
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Speaker 8: and everything that you've done of late, I want to

706
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Speaker 8: go back to two and a half years ago, January

707
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 8: twenty seventeen. You've just lost your second straight split decision

708
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Speaker 8: in the UFC, so you could be fourteen and oh,

709
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 8: instead you're twelve and two. Now we know you've won

710
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 8: six of seven since we're going to get to that,

711
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Speaker 8: but do you remember where your head was at early

712
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Speaker 8: twenty seventeen right after that a Sun South fight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure it was. It was a relative, relatively

714
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Speaker 4: dark moment for me. I think anytime you lose two

715
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Speaker 4: in a row, you always consider your next fight. If

716
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Speaker 4: you lose again, that is probably your walking papers, your

717
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: pink slip as they call it, and being cast it

718
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Speaker 4: outside of the UFC, and you know, being on your

719
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Speaker 4: high horse and having such a crazy run before and

720
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Speaker 4: oh three finishes in a row and then lose to

721
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Speaker 4: in a row like that, that would just raise their

722
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Speaker 4: close fights that could have arguably went the other way,

723
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Speaker 4: pending another judge, I think it leaves a bad taste

724
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Speaker 4: in your mouth. And I wasn't sure what it was.

725
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Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if maybe it was my style. I

726
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: wasn't sure if the coaching. I was as sure if

727
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Speaker 4: it was my training, the things I was doing outside

728
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Speaker 4: of the camps and stuff like that. And then ultimately

729
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Speaker 4: I brought it back to center and I try to

730
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Speaker 4: keep things in perspective and look at things for what

731
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Speaker 4: they were. And you know, I broke down both fights

732
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Speaker 4: why I lost and kind of just reinvented myself. And

733
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Speaker 4: I think it helped me elevate my game to a

734
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Speaker 4: new level and allowed me to start trusting my offense

735
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Speaker 4: a little bit more like I do in the training

736
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Speaker 4: room and start to really do some of the things

737
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Speaker 4: that I was doing in the room, and I started

738
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Speaker 4: to do it under the bright lights in the actagam.

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Speaker 6: So al joy?

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Speaker 9: Is it those two losses that really have have driven

741
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Speaker 9: you and kind of caused some changes in the way

742
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Speaker 9: that you approach fights is that are those the two

743
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Speaker 9: fights that were responsible for that?

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Speaker 4: Those those were the beginning those I would say they

745
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: were the catalyst for sure. As you look at my

746
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: fight with the Kimio Mendez, there was a lot of

747
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Speaker 4: more stand up in that, a lot of utilizing the

748
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Speaker 4: jab like I do in training, attacking the body, throwing

749
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Speaker 4: more combinations with the hands, not just kicking all the time.

750
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Speaker 4: And then Burrell, I think I put on a striking

751
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Speaker 4: clinic outside of the one takedown that I was able

752
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Speaker 4: to get and me being on my back, I was

753
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Speaker 4: able to show that I can still work off my back.

754
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Speaker 4: And then obviously we have the one with Maria's I

755
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: think that's every fighter's biggest concern is is getting knocked

756
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Speaker 4: out on national TV orish I say, international TV. And

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Speaker 4: I think that one was the other. The next one

758
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Speaker 4: that was like the straw that broke the camel's back.

759
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: After that, it was just like all bets are off,

760
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Speaker 4: We're just gonna you know, I came in there a

761
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Speaker 4: little too overconfident, and you know, I was riding the wave.

762
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Speaker 4: I'd just be Hentering Burrow, former champion who only lost

763
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Speaker 4: the TJ. Dell Shaw and Jeremy Stevens up away class

764
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Speaker 4: and he did good. He lost twenty nine to twenty eight.

765
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Speaker 4: So I thought I was the man, you know, and

766
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: sure enough I got brun kicked off my high horse,

767
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 4: literally by MoMA Maras, and you know, just the lack

768
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Speaker 4: of respect I had for him going into that, you know,

769
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Speaker 4: not really taking the fight that serious, thinking that I

770
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Speaker 4: was just going to walk through the park and I

771
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 4: just didn't feel like I was fighting. And then once

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Speaker 4: once that happened, it kind of once again reinvented myself

773
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: once once more, and I realized, like anytime I did

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Speaker 4: good is when I felt like I was fighting for

775
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Speaker 4: my life, and that's kind of how I approach every

776
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 4: single fight ever since. Then it's just me or you,

777
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Speaker 4: And I think just having that extra set of nerves

778
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: in the back of your mind really help you fire

779
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Speaker 4: and also on this and keep your senses just a

780
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: lot more sharper than when you're kind of lax and

781
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Speaker 4: kind of just going through the motions a little bit.

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Speaker 9: Al Joe, I couldn't agree with you more man, But

783
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Speaker 9: I think there's a balance, right because I've also seen, yes,

784
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 9: you're kind of kicking it up as far as your.

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Speaker 6: Intensity and your awareness.

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Speaker 9: But there there's a relaxation in Aljamaine Sterling now where

787
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 9: you're going out and really being yourself. You're showing that

788
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 9: funk style. You do a lot of unorthodox stuff, but

789
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Speaker 9: you're staying true to kind of who you are at

790
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Speaker 9: the same time.

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Speaker 6: How was that process?

792
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Speaker 9: You know? Because everyone always said, dude Aljo in the gym.

793
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 9: You got to see him. He hasn't filled his potential yet,

794
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 9: but when he pulls it all together, this guy's gonna

795
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 9: do big things. And you are doing big things. What

796
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 9: is the reason for that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's hard for me to say exactly

798
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: what it is. I do believe in my coaching, my

799
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: abilities in just the years of wrestling, and the amount

800
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: of magic that I had. You know, I kind of

801
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: got to this point beforewards wrestling, going to the national

802
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: tournament twice and coming up short, taking fourth as a

803
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: junior and sixth as a senior, losing to two Division

804
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Speaker 4: one transfers. And I always had it in my head

805
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: that d one guy who were better than just better

806
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: than us. And then when I realized when I when

807
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: I lost those matches, and I lost them both by

808
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: I realized, dude, these guys are another human being. They

809
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: bleed just like we bleed. They get hurt, looks like

810
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: we get They shoot the same shots we shoot. It's

811
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: just who's more confident and who's going to implement their

812
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: game plan more. And I think that has transferred over

813
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: of late into my game. And I do respect a

814
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: lot of these guys when I go in there and

815
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 4: I and I make sure I keep those nerves sharp,

816
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: and I think it helps me with my awareness in there.

817
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I go in there with

818
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: an attitude that I'm just better and they just there's

819
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Speaker 4: no one in there in this division who could fuck

820
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Speaker 4: with me on any type of level in my personal opinion,

821
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Speaker 4: And I mean everyone's got to. You got to feel

822
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: like that. You don't feel like you're the man going

823
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: in there and not in a cocky way, just like

824
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: you put in the time and truly believing that you

825
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 4: put in the work. I think good things won't won't.

826
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Speaker 4: I don't think good things will happen. And I think

827
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Speaker 4: when you go out there with that mindset, that mentality,

828
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: I think the fight is yours to lose. And I

829
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Speaker 4: think that's that's really what's been up late for me

830
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: and I love it. Man. I feel like I'm I

831
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: got this momentum, and I got this confidence, and I

832
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: trust my skill set, my coaches. I don't think there's

833
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: a man out there right now in this division that

834
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: could be me.

835
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Speaker 8: Certainly look like the best band wait in the world.

836
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 8: To me, when you fought Pedro Munyez the last time out,

837
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Speaker 8: I'm not just saying that because you're here. I've said

838
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 8: it on past shows. He is UFC bandam Way contender

839
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Speaker 8: al Jae main Sterling given us a few minutes here

840
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 8: on the Anakin floor in podcast. So the win over

841
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 8: Pedro was your fourth in a row. So I've said

842
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 8: this to Ray privately. You know, if I was him,

843
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 8: or Matt Sarah or your manager, I'd probably be advising

844
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 8: you to wait for a title shot. But a three

845
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 8: parted question here, how long are you willing to wait

846
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 8: for Henry Sahudo? Does a Marlon Marice fight appeal to

847
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 8: you in a rematch or maybe a fight with Dominica

848
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 8: Cruz as one of the bigger names in the division,

849
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 8: And does a UFC main event slot appeal to you?

850
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 8: You know, getting the experience of a five round fight

851
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 8: against somebody like dom or Marlin, even if it wasn't

852
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 8: a title opportunity, Like, what is your mindset at right now?

853
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 8: Where is it at when it comes to all the

854
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 8: million different things I just threw your way.

855
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: It's a lot to take in, you know. I try

856
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: to approach this from a business standpoint and looking at

857
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: my career. I mean, I've said it over and over

858
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: again that you know, I don't plan on staying in

859
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 4: this game longer than I have to. I ultimately set

860
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 4: my window of fighting to be closed at thirty two.

861
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: Depending you know, everything goes my way in terms of

862
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 4: winning the bell, maybe defending it a couple of times,

863
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: and then just walking away with my health. Intact, that's

864
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: super important to me making sure I get more out

865
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: of the sport than this sport takes from me. And

866
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: I didn't think that just comes with maturity and understanding.

867
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: Like you, in you stay in the game long enough,

868
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: chasing something that might not ever happen, it would end

869
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: up taking more for me than you might want the

870
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: game to take from you. But in terms of these

871
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: other things, I'm interested in fighting the best of the best.

872
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not a Hendrys that you know, who's

873
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: talking about being an inter gender champion, and there's no

874
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: knock on Henry whatsoever. I know what he's doing. I

875
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 4: understand what he's doing. He's good to his name. You know,

876
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: he was saying he's not going to fly until the

877
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: UC pays him his worth. I understand it one hundred percent.

878
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, he's got something that

879
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: I have yet to do and has become a UC

880
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: world champion and doing it in two different weight classes,

881
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: superpresive and because you know he has to go medal.

882
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: But right, just those things alone, you know, I respect

883
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: the guy. But at the same time, I came into

884
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: sports to fight against the best guys that people think

885
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: are the best because I want to be at the

886
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: end of the day, I want to be one of

887
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 4: those guys people remember in this bandweight division for the

888
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: rest of history. I want my names when I am run,

889
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: all said and done, when I retire, when I passed away,

890
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: I want to leave my mark, some type of historic

891
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: mark and some type of historic dent in the sport

892
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: that I can be remembered by. And you know, I've

893
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: always been I've pretty much been an athlete my entire life.

894
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 4: But I didn't really compete like organized until my sophomore

895
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: year in high school and in college, and it's been

896
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: something that has defined me for a long time. You know,

897
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: you know, I just don't want I want to fall

898
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 4: into that thing like this is all I'm able to

899
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 4: do with my life. But at the same time, I

900
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: want to make sure I get my fair shake out

901
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: of this. I would love to fight you down the cruise.

902
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: I just feel like him just getting out of bed.

903
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: He might roll over and pull out of a fight

904
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 4: by hurting his knee coming out of bed or something.

905
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what that guy's deal is. It's really

906
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 4: confusing to see. I got to say, he's a big name.

907
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: I get it. You are the first champion in the

908
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: division to hold the belt. I get it. But at

909
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: the same time, your work has not spoken for himself

910
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: in a very long time, in three years, right, be exact,

911
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: And to think that because you are a big name

912
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 4: that you should get the billing over anybody else makes

913
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: no sense. You got slapped around by Cody Garbrandt, who's

914
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 4: lost through in the row. And I still believe Cody

915
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: garbran is a top tier talent. I think he just

916
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: called he kind of gets a little emotional out there,

917
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: and he could be his own worst enemy and do

918
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: himself in. But like I said, he has to beat

919
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: one of these young hungry lions yea to re establish

920
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 4: himself as being a top to ten of twenty sixteen.

921
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: It was a long time, and uh, I think fans

922
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: only remember him getting schooled. So if you're gonna try

923
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: to say all these other things, it's irrelevant. Father time

924
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: has passed, and uh with the fans, I think everyone

925
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 4: knows it. It's what have you done for me lately?

926
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: And that's kind of where I'm at. So I would

927
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: love to fight Dominic Cruz. I only called the guy

928
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 4: out three out of my last four fights. My last

929
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: fight stopped calling him out because the guy he pretends

930
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: he doesn't hit me, you know, so, yeah, pretend you

931
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: don't hit me. It's only so much I could keep

932
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: trying to poke the beer to get a fight. Like

933
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 4: I said, he's one of the best in the world.

934
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: I want to fight the best in the world. If

935
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a main event slot with title contingents,

936
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: I'll gladly sign on the dollar line and take the fight.

937
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: If he's gonna be Frank Irger, I'll gladly sign on

938
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: the line. Yeah, take the fight. Whoever's gonna be out,

939
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: I'll take the fight. The only person that don't think

940
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 4: makes a ton of sense right now is Marlon Murat's.

941
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: Had he had one de belt, I would have been

942
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: gunning for that. Fortunate is no tomorrow. But I know

943
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: it's weird, man, It's it's weird.

944
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 6: I agree. I agree with everything you said.

945
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 8: And you know, obviously, Dominic Cruz is a close friend

946
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 8: of mine in a broadcast partner, and we have a

947
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 8: good personal relationship as well, obviously, But I wanted to

948
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 8: talk to you today because I think you're sort of

949
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 8: in a weird situation because you essentially want a title

950
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 8: eliminator against Pedro Munio's the Knight. Henry won the belt,

951
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 8: so you put the body of work on paper to

952
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 8: get a shot at Henry Shudo right now. But his

953
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 8: shoulder surgery and the severity of that injury I think

954
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 8: just sort of complicates things a little bit in terms

955
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 8: of the timeline. So I sort of think, well, hey,

956
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 8: if al Jo doesn't want to sit out for ten months,

957
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 8: at least give him a main event, give him the

958
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 8: platform that comes with a main event.

959
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: Make it a clear.

960
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 8: Title eliminator, and maybe that would pacify you and allow

961
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 8: you to not have to sit and wait for Henry

962
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 8: until March or April of twenty twenty.

963
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: You know.

964
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy to me that I keep getting I

965
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: don't know if I'm being slighted or they're using the

966
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: prelim headliner title quotes as a way to make it

967
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: sound more compelling for the fans or the competitors. I

968
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: really don't understand it. I've been the main car one time,

969
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 4: and albeit it was the worst fight of my life

970
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: in terms of uh, probably the shortest part of my

971
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: life in terms of losing to Marlon Marise like that,

972
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: I haven't had another crack to show what I can do.

973
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: And one time they should have put Jimmy and I

974
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: on the make Yeah, Jimmy Rivera.

975
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: On the main car.

976
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: They did it. We got slided and uh, when they

977
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: put Jimmy Rivera in Dubson over myself and Cody Stalmon,

978
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 4: we put on a better performers than there those guys

979
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: shipped to the bed. And then when you put Peter

980
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 4: jan versus Jimmy Rivera over myself and Patriot willnos who

981
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: bring nothing but action. I just don't get it, Like,

982
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 4: what else do I have to do to earn my spot,

983
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: which I think I put in a ton of time for.

984
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 4: It's not like I'm I'm asked for something I don't

985
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: think I deserve. I think I've worked for it. I

986
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: think I earned it. It's it's a different thing than

987
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 4: you don't always get what you deserve. But I think

988
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: I've earned it and put in the time, and whether

989
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: I get that crack, that's completely up to them. I've

990
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: got lingering injuries that I've been wanting to take care of,

991
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 4: torn ligament to my wrists for about two years now,

992
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: and I've just been pushing the envelope of how far

993
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: I can go with this, and if I'm not going

994
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: to get a fight sooner rather than later, I'm just

995
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: going to go into the night and just take care

996
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: of myself and get ready for a great twenty twenty.

997
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: So that's that's my plan right now. So right now,

998
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: we're just they can make this fight happen at MSG,

999
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 4: then I'm.

1000
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 5: All for it.

1001
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: Well, we'll push one more time and hopefully it's another

1002
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: good night.

1003
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 8: Well, I know there are sort of frustrations that come

1004
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 8: with success. But it's all good things, man, it's all

1005
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 8: in front of you. You're a young man, and again

1006
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 8: you know, for my money, you're the number one Bandamway

1007
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 8: contender and hopefully the title shot comes your way next.

1008
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 8: Before we let you go, we got about sixty seconds.

1009
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 8: You know, I think skill for skill, combination wrestling, grappling,

1010
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 8: you're probably the best guy at one hundred and thirty

1011
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 8: five pounds. So I just wanted to get your thoughts

1012
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 8: on Kabib, Normago Medov and and some of the nuances

1013
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 8: to what he does and the degree to which you

1014
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 8: were impressed with the way he disposed of Pourier over

1015
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 8: the weekend.

1016
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 4: Man, he is such a a nominal talent. When he

1017
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: gets in that clinched position, he gets guys against the

1018
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: cage and he presses him with his shoulder pressure. And

1019
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: I think that's what guys aren't realizing. When he's pressing

1020
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: in so hard, he's not really squeezing and utilizing a

1021
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: tunnel of energy. He's making the guys work and tarring

1022
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: his weight against the fence. No matter which direction they go,

1023
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 4: He's following their their every step, matching them the step

1024
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: for step and then once he gets his hands locked,

1025
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 4: that's pretty much it. He gets what we call when

1026
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: I whenever I teach the mm A class at our gym,

1027
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: I always emphasize head overhead, making it super difficult for

1028
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 4: the guy on bomb to get up. All you have

1029
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: to do is sagguate and just become like a wet

1030
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: blanket and make your opponent exhaust himself trying to do

1031
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: constant squats, trying to scoop, trying to shrimp, trying to

1032
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: cage walk. You pull off the wrists, you flying them

1033
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: out again. You do take the you put the hooks in,

1034
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: they take the hooks out, you put them back again.

1035
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: You change the direction of his head, you tie up

1036
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: his wrists. It's it's a beautiful work of art. And

1037
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's really figured out the ansper it.

1038
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: I think Poorier was starting to do the right things

1039
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: when he was starting to use some means to the

1040
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: body when he was controlling the far risks. So if

1041
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: Kabib was facing Poitier's right hip and using his right

1042
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: hand and around the leg, Kabib was having his less risk

1043
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: trapped by Pourier, and he was throwing these to the body.

1044
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: That's the best way to try to slow him down.

1045
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: And you have to hurt a guy like that for

1046
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: his efforts before he drains you, and then you have

1047
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: no power left in the battery. And that's the best

1048
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 4: way I can explain it. Yeah, and as soon as

1049
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: you're setting and done. But I think he's going to

1050
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 4: be a very very tough guy to be for anybody,

1051
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 4: even as Tony Ferguson, who may do well fighting him.

1052
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: But I think the only way Tony does great is

1053
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: if he can if he gets taken down in the

1054
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: center of the cage and not against the cage where

1055
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: could be does his best work.

1056
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, Habib, with you up against the fence, that's

1057
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 8: the scariest place in MMA. I think he's the safest

1058
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 8: bet in pro sports right now. Aljamin Sterling, gracious of

1059
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 8: you to give us twenty minutes or so today, my man.

1060
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 8: Wish all the best, getting healthy, getting the fights that

1061
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 8: you desire, and you've certainly put forth a great effort

1062
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 8: over the last couple of years, and we wish all

1063
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 8: the best.

1064
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1065
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 8: Hopefully that belt's coming your way in the not too

1066
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 8: distant future. Buddy, Thanks for the.

1067
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: Time, Thanks for having me there.

1068
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 8: He is UFC BANTAMBAYCK contender al Jamaine Sterling, Ray Longo's guy.

1069
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 8: That's not the reason we had him on though. I

1070
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 8: can assure you all right UFC Vancouver picks coming up

1071
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 8: here shortly, Kenny, but I want to get your thoughts

1072
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 8: quickly on the poorer side of things and time permitting

1073
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 8: on the comin event between Paul Felder and Edson Barboza.

1074
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 8: I know you've outlined some of the things that Dustin

1075
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 8: did wrong in the fight, right, But I think that

1076
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 8: his maybe ultimate frustration might be that he's just not

1077
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 8: sure he's going to be able to close that gap

1078
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 8: with the right work, right, Like when you feel like

1079
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 8: you've put in all the right work, with all the

1080
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 8: right preparation and all the right training partners and the

1081
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 8: gap is still that wide. I just think it has

1082
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 8: to be massively disappointing, you know, for him, like and

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Speaker 8: I you know, I mean for him to start talking

1084
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 8: about retirement. I think part of it's like, man, if

1085
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 8: this was my effort, if this was the way when

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00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 8: I finally got my undisputed title shot twenty three UFC

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00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 8: fights in, if there's gonna be this type of gap,

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00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 8: then you know, I don't want to stick around to

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00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 8: be second best, and unfortunately I guess for him because

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00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 8: heb's the guy who's the champ right now.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and listen, I've been there, I've it's happened to

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00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 9: me three times. I've climbed that mountain three times and

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Speaker 9: I've fallen down.

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Speaker 6: It is heartbreaking, it is very difficult.

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Speaker 9: But what makes you a fighter is your ability to

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Speaker 9: try to climb back up. I know that, uh, Dustin's

1097
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 9: been doing this for a very long time. He's been

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00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 9: fighting and training because he was a teenager. And the

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00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 9: fact that he was even able to get this shot,

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00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 9: I think is an incredible achievement. You know, in regards

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00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 9: to training hard and all that stuff, yes, you got

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00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 9: to train hard, but you got to train smart as well,

1103
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 9: and you can't just do what everyone else is doing.

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00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 9: You know, I think that there's there's smarter approaches out there.

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00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 9: You know, I think Dustin's want of those guys who

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00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 9: has a tremendous amount of potential, a tremendous amount of heart.

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Speaker 9: I think he's got a lot of great coaches around him,

1108
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 9: There's no doubt about it. But you know, I think

1109
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 9: going out there and and and seeking out you know,

1110
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 9: maybe other jujitsu guys or other striking coaches or other

1111
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 9: wrestling coach just to help you. Doesn't mean you're going

1112
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 9: to train with them forever, but to getting a different

1113
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 9: perspective or a different approach.

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00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 6: You know, I think what can can always help.

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00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 9: And you know, I still think Dustin can get back

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00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 9: to the top. He's still he still has plenty of time,

1117
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 9: plenty of years uh to get back up there. But

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00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 9: hopefully he's made a lot of money of the over

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00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 9: the course of his career, He's achieved amazing things in

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Speaker 9: this sport. I still think he has the ability to

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00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 9: get back to a championship run. And you know, people

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00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 9: love that guy. He's such he's so great. He's so

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00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 9: great for the sport as far as his attitude, his respect,

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00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 9: his professionalism, all that stuff makes Dustin a star in

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Speaker 9: my opinion, and I wish him the best man.

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00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 8: And there aren't that many of those shiny new UFC

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00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 8: belts in existence, and ry time I checked, there's one

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Speaker 8: at his house. And as he told us on Thursday,

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Speaker 8: he beat a world champion to get it. So to me,

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00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 8: there's nothing hollow about his interim championship when he ended

1131
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 8: a thirteen fight winning streep for Max Holloway. Granted it

1132
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 8: was up away class for Max, but I know it's

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00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 8: not the belt and the title that Dustin desired, but

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00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 8: it'll have to do at least for now. And I

1135
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 8: really wish we could do thirty minutes on Ebnrmago Mattow

1136
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 8: right now and how good he is for the sport

1137
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 8: and what this win does for his all time status.

1138
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 8: But in the nature of time, I want to quickly

1139
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 8: talk about Paul Felder and Edson Barbosa. Biggest win of

1140
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 8: Paul Felder's career split decision, but it was the thirty

1141
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 8: to twenty sevens on both sides that just leave people

1142
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 8: with not a great taste in their mouth. I think

1143
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 8: probably seventy percent of the fans i've heard from thought

1144
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 8: that Edson Barboza won rounds one and two and that

1145
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 8: Paul Felder won that third round. I think a thirty

1146
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 8: twenty seven either way is just crazy to me. Obviously,

1147
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 8: it was a great fight, It's big for Paul in

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00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 8: terms of spinning his career forward. Your thoughts on Barbosa

1149
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 8: Felder act too, and ultimately the scorecards if you would

1150
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 8: good sir.

1151
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 9: The heat did not only get to John Annick out there.

1152
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 9: I think they got to the judges as well, my friend.

1153
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 9: I don't think they were thinking properly out there.

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00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 6: Some interesting decisions all night.

1155
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 9: I thought Andrea Lee probably pulled off the win against

1156
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 9: Calderwood as well.

1157
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 6: But this was one of those ways.

1158
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 9: I saw the fight the exact same way as Andrea

1159
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 9: Andrea Lee and Joanne Calderwood.

1160
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 6: I saw the first two for Lee.

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00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 9: I saw the first two for Barbosa, I saw the

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00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 9: third round for Calderwood. I saw the third round for

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00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 9: Paul Felder. Here these weren't I wouldn't call them robberies,

1164
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 9: but I thought it was a pretty defiditive women.

1165
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 6: Eight I thought would be here.

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00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 9: The fact that they had thirty twenty seven for either

1167
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 9: guy is just ridiculous, And I think they had the

1168
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 9: same for Calderwood.

1169
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 6: Didn't want judge have it thirty twenty seven for Calderwood?

1170
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 6: Am I wrong? So yeah, no, you're exactly right.

1171
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 8: One of the two judges who scored that fight for

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00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 8: Jojo had at thirty to twenty.

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00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 6: Seven with I guess say.

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Speaker 9: I have no fucking clue how they were able to

1175
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 9: do it. I excuse my language, but it's just to me,

1176
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 9: it's heartbreaking because I know how hard these fighters work,

1177
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 9: and to go out there and have what I believe

1178
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 9: in incompetent judge, you know, deciding your fate out there.

1179
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 6: It's horrible.

1180
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 9: It's horrible, and I know it's not their intention they're

1181
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 9: being I don't think they're being biased. I don't think

1182
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 9: they're I just don't think they're good at their job

1183
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 9: some of them. Sorry, I just think that's that's the fact.

1184
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 9: And you know, I don't know what they're watching. I

1185
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 9: don't know exactly what they're trying to determine as who's

1186
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 9: winning the round. But I don't know. It's just plain wrong.

1187
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 9: I don't get how they're calling it. I did think

1188
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 9: Barbosa won. I did think Andrea Lee won. I don't know.

1189
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 9: I wouldn't call it a robbery again for either of those,

1190
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 9: but I thought it was pretty clear the way that

1191
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 9: most people call mixed more martial arts fights, most professional

1192
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 9: judges call fights, go should be wins for those guys,

1193
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 9: as simple as that.

1194
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1195
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 8: I know Barboza's camp said that they will protest, but

1196
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 8: that is going to fall on deaf ears and not

1197
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 8: do anything. I fucking love when you fucking swear by

1198
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 8: the Way show, especially when we have new sponsors. H

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Speaker 8: all right, I just want to shout out a few

1200
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 8: other guys, but we're not gonna be able to talk

1201
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 8: about these fights. Curtis blades Man, when he starts adding

1202
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 8: some Brazilian jiu jitsu and some submission offense, I think

1203
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 8: there's a chance he's a future UFC heavyweight champion. I

1204
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 8: really really believe that Carlos Diego Fajeda performance of a

1205
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 8: career in kol and off Meyerbeck Taysumov.

1206
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 6: Congrats to safe soyud fordis MMA.

1207
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 8: Huge win for Diego Fijeda and a couple great knockouts

1208
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 8: Ottman a Zeitar Muslim, Salakopa Lala Mohammad with a big

1209
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 8: win and a bonus great show at UFC two forty two.

1210
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 8: Really excited to go back, you know, not that I

1211
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 8: had trepidation going to Abu Dhabi, but it's far, it's hot.

1212
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Speaker 8: We have international broadcasting conditions that maybe aren't ideal, but

1213
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Speaker 8: we had a great show and a great trip, and

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Speaker 8: I really look forward to seeing how that relationship sort

1215
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 8: of develops and evolve over the next five years with

1216
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 8: a UFC title fight, going to Abu Dhabi for the

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Speaker 8: next four years twenty twenty through twenty twenty two or whatever.

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Speaker 8: Week TJ Desanta six and ten on the year, Big

1244
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 8: miss on Islam Mahashev last week, This week big name

1245
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 8: light heavyweight. This shouldn't be too bad. He previously fought

1246
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 8: John Jones with the title.

1247
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 6: I think I got a right last week? What are

1248
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 6: you doing? I think I thought we said we got

1249
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 6: a right all.

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Speaker 8: Right, seven and nine. I apologize it wasn't great, but

1251
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 8: you're right. I stand corrected seven and nine. And this

1252
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 8: week it's a guy who fought John Jones for the belt.

1253
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 8: This should be easy, right. He fights out of Danbury,

1254
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 8: Connecticut'll face Nikita Krulov and the comin event this weekend.

1255
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 6: TJ.

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Speaker 8: DeSantis of whom am I Speaking Glover his shitta. All right,

1257
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 8: let's hear him low this, Shita, low this shita tz

1258
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 8: I really apologize. You know, my twin brother and everybody

1259
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 8: else is stop banging on TJ. You're eight and nine

1260
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 8: on the year back within one of five hundred. I

1261
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 8: will never call you six and ten again. All right,

1262
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 8: time permitting some more UFC two forty two stuff on

1263
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 8: the back end, but we cannot make Ian Parker wait

1264
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 8: any longer. Let us get to the main event challenge.

1265
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 6: It's the main event Challenge and the time is most

1266
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 6: definitely in Flori. I finished, fine. How do you everything possible.

1267
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: To win the main event Challenge? John Nnick and Kenny

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Speaker 2: Florian podcast.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's a team Anic led Team Florian one O eight,

1270
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 8: one oh five going into UFC two forty two.

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 6: Not a great week on either side.

1272
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 8: Both went five hundred, picking winners three and three, but

1273
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 8: by virtue of the flows underdog selection on Diego Fijeda,

1274
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 8: team Florian wins the week four to three, shaves.

1275
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 6: The lead down to two. Just keep fucking fucking away.

1276
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 8: One eleven, one oh nine going into the UFC fight

1277
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Speaker 8: not cowboy versus Gates You Walter to Wall on ESPN

1278
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 8: Plus this weekend. Ian Parker now joins US Live and

1279
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 8: let us get right to a first fight. Two hundred

1280
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 8: and five pounds. The undefeated twenty three year old Jimmy

1281
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 8: krup slightest of favorites minus won twenty five against Misha Serkunov,

1282
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 8: who is the minus one oh five underdog, at least

1283
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 8: for our purposes.

1284
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 6: Ip, good to talk to you again, my man. Who

1285
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 6: do you have here?

1286
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Speaker 5: Furst Off, Kudos to you for doing the show today after.

1287
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 6: That travel, Thank you, God fucking man.

1288
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: You know you're a legend, bro. All right, Jimmy Crude

1289
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 5: versus Misha Sirkinoff. Here, here's the interesting part about this fight.

1290
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 5: You know, Serkanov's got a lot on this play, with

1291
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: this personal stuff that everyone knows about. My heart goes

1292
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: out to him that last fight against Seanniy Walker brutal knockout.

1293
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 5: You know, you got a guy Jimmy Crude who's starting

1294
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: to rise up the ranks a little bit as a

1295
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 5: developing prospect in the Contender series. I just think he's

1296
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 5: more well rounded here. You know, Sirkodov is extremely dangerous

1297
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 5: on the ground, we all know that. But Cruit's gonna

1298
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 5: have a very, very very big advantage on the I

1299
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: think he's good enough to keep the fight standing. If

1300
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 5: he can knock out Sam Alby, I don't see him

1301
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: have no problem dropping Serganoff. Cirkanoff hans have not evolved.

1302
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: If Kreu does want to take this to the ground,

1303
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 5: I think as long as he's on top, he will

1304
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: be okay. I think his cardio is better, and I

1305
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 5: just like this guy. You know, he's a good up

1306
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 5: and comery. He's exciting and fun to watch. It sucks

1307
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 5: and Nisha Serkonov has becoming more of a gate keeper.

1308
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna go with the young guy here. I'm

1309
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 5: going with Jimmy Krup.

1310
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with everything you said.

1311
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 8: And if you do like Jimmy Cruth, the price is

1312
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 8: pretty short right now he is ten and O Sirkanov

1313
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 8: on the other side.

1314
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 6: Can Flow really needs a win?

1315
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 8: Started his UFC career guns blazing four and zero with

1316
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 8: four finishes. Now he's been stopped or submitted in three

1317
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 8: of his last four, the last coming against Johnny Walker

1318
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 8: thirty eight seconds in back in March. What do you

1319
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 8: think Flow, Cirkunov and Krup coming up on the main

1320
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 8: card opener this weekend.

1321
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 9: You know, Sirkov can get very hesitant to start a fight.

1322
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 9: I think that's when he's most vulnerable, and sometimes he

1323
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 9: gets caught between trying to be a grappler or trying

1324
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 9: to be a striker.

1325
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 6: It's either one or the other.

1326
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 9: So to me, that shows that he's not so comfortable

1327
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 9: with his mixed martial arts game as of right now.

1328
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 6: It does take some time. I do think he's going

1329
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 6: to have a.

1330
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 9: Massive speed disadvantage here against Jimmy Crut who's trained by

1331
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 9: a legendary K one kickboxer, Sam Greco.

1332
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 6: And Jimmy's not too bad on the ground either.

1333
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 9: I don't think that's where he wants to be necessarily

1334
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 9: against someone like metre Sirkanov, but he does have the

1335
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 9: capability to get back to his feet and defend himself

1336
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 9: on the ground. I think Jimmy's going to have a

1337
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 9: big advantage on the feet. I think he gets a

1338
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 9: TKL during this five, maybe early.

1339
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 8: And I guarantee that the conviction from both of you

1340
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 8: is going to move that betting line before Saturday night.

1341
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 8: At heavyweight guys, Stipe's strong style teammate Jeff Hughes the

1342
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 8: narrow minus one twenty favorite against a returning Todd Duffy,

1343
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 8: who is minus won ten so an underdog here on

1344
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 8: the main event challenge. Duffy back for the first time

1345
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 8: since he was finished by Frank Meerflow and that main

1346
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 8: event that we called in twenty fifteen. So first it

1347
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 8: was a shoulder injury for Duffy, then surgery on both

1348
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 8: knee these including an ACL and one of them got

1349
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 8: a staph infection during the recovery. So he's in Vegas

1350
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 8: working closely with the UFCPI. We will see what he

1351
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 8: has this weekend against Jeff Hughes, who just got married

1352
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 8: two days ago. If I'm not mistaken Ian Parker, I

1353
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 8: don't that doesn't sound ideal to me your thoughts on

1354
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 8: Hughes and Duffy in the heavyweight division.

1355
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 5: On a betting standpoint, I couldn't be so far away

1356
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 5: from touching this fight. It's not even funny, you know,

1357
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 5: Jeff Hughes losing to low Green and Todd Duffy hasn't

1358
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 5: fought since what twenty fifteen, sixteen. It's a really hard

1359
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 5: situation here because you really you're gonna have a striking battle,

1360
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 5: and you would think that Duffy, who should have better boxing,

1361
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 5: usually the larger and more powerful guy, but we see

1362
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 5: his chin just fail him time and time again. I

1363
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 5: don't know if the time off has really, you know,

1364
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 5: done anything for him some you know. I know Domina

1365
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 5: Cruz is not the biggest believer in Ring Russ, but

1366
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 5: not everyone is a legend like Dominic Cruz, and I

1367
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 5: can't sit a Duffy is anywhere near a dom Cruse

1368
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 5: type of situation. Clearly, if I had to flip a

1369
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 5: coinser and pick, I'm gonna go with a more active

1370
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 5: fighter getting married. He's in the huntingmoon phase A he's

1371
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 5: still happily married.

1372
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: At the moment.

1373
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna take I'm gonna try and spin that

1374
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 5: towards the positive.

1375
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: There.

1376
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Hughes right now, just thank you,

1377
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 5: based on the activity. I do like his style, and

1378
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna get himself in a situation

1379
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 5: with Duffy. I think Duffy either finished him quick or

1380
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 5: he's gonna lose quick. I just don't trust Stuffy being

1381
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 5: out for so long, and based on the show's challenge,

1382
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Jeff Hughes.

1383
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 8: Only a heavyweight could get married and then go right

1384
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 8: into fight week. Jeff Hughes Kenny coming off a split

1385
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 8: decision lost to Maury Screen that was in Wichita, Kansas,

1386
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 8: back in March. He has favored slightly here over Todd Duffy.

1387
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 8: What do you think about this.

1388
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 9: One, Listen, I think Ian Uh pretty much said it

1389
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 9: all both of these guys. You know, it's hard to

1390
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 9: depend on for a quality result here. I do think

1391
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 9: that Duffy is a little bit more skilled. I think

1392
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 9: his physical skills are more impressive to me. What has

1393
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 9: he been doing with all this time off? I don't know.

1394
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 9: You mentioned him dealing with a lot of injuries. He has

1395
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 9: had a lot of bad luck over the course of

1396
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 9: his career. But I have to imagine if he's ready

1397
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 9: to go get back into the UFC and he's Uh

1398
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 9: taking this fight, that he should be in good shape.

1399
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 9: I think, who knows, I'm going with Duffy though, I'll

1400
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 9: go the other way.

1401
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 6: Hopefully he pulls it off and gives me that extra point.

1402
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, as a dog, I mean that power right, that

1403
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 8: power is still there, you know, I and speed right,

1404
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 8: absolutely no, that's dude, I'm telling you, man, All of

1405
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 8: a sudden Todd Duffy knocks out Jeff Hughes in thirty seconds,

1406
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 8: and we're talking about Todd Duffy being in the top

1407
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 8: fifteen next week.

1408
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 6: You'll see, you know, maybe it's Greg Hark.

1409
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 5: I think, I think, I think the I think the

1410
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 5: real question is over under how many times Kenny and

1411
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 5: I catch you this week changing up our pick on

1412
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 5: the duff.

1413
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet no, You're right.

1414
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 8: I'm just happy that I'll be able to take those

1415
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 8: text messages and shut my mouth and not call of

1416
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 8: fight this week.

1417
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 6: And I know Duffy just sneezed of going with Hughes.

1418
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 6: Just see, looks like he's dealing with the cold.

1419
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 8: Yeah right, all right, we got a rifle through this

1420
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 8: feat about here because Ian Parker's got to pick up

1421
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 8: his son here in eight minutes at middleweight American Top Teams,

1422
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 8: Antonio Carlos Junior minus won sixty five against you, Ryah Hall,

1423
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 8: who is plus one thirty five, Ian Parker, your lead,

1424
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 8: you go in shoe face or prime time, I'm.

1425
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 5: Going shoe face. I have no Unfortunately, I have no

1426
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 5: trust in you, Ryah Hall, even though he's got the

1427
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 5: upper hand in the striking battle. You know, obviously he's

1428
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 5: very flash He's got a ton of power. I just

1429
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 5: think after Antonio Carlos's last loss to Ian Hydach, I

1430
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 5: think he's got to get back in the win.

1431
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: Colm.

1432
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 5: I think this is a good matchup for him once

1433
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 5: he gets his fight.

1434
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: To the ground.

1435
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 5: Even though Urya is not terrible on the ground, he's

1436
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,479
Speaker 5: nowhere at the same level, and I think shoe face

1437
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 5: striking capability is good enough to get him into the

1438
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 5: clinch and bring this fight to the ground. For your

1439
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 5: Rya Hall, it's unfortunate, but if you go look at

1440
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 5: his last five or six fights, it's either knocked out

1441
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 5: or get knocked out, and there's been way more of

1442
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: him being on the worst end than on the better

1443
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 5: end of that situation. And you can only take so

1444
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 5: much in their sport for so long with that type

1445
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 5: of style, which once was a skilled fighter is now

1446
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 5: coming a little bit more of a swing for the fence.

1447
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with shoeface agains the submission here.

1448
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,479
Speaker 8: Ken Solly Riah Hall did rally to knock out bev

1449
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 8: On Lewis last December, so he does have momentum. But

1450
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 8: he did hit the reset button on his career after

1451
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 8: that fight, despite it being a win, he is now

1452
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 8: training full time in Dallas for s MMA under safe

1453
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 8: SIOUTI has been there for six or eight weeks, so

1454
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 8: he's all in. He is committed to that gym and

1455
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 8: trying to really make a concerted run and effort at

1456
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 8: this thing. That being said, tough matchup against Shoeface. Your

1457
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 8: thoughts on the feature about here at one hundred and

1458
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 8: eighty five pounds.

1459
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and listen, who knows that.

1460
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 9: I mean that might be enough for Aryah Hall to

1461
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 9: really make those changes and then buy into the coaching

1462
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 9: philosophy there at fourds MMA and be a change fighter.

1463
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 9: I just think this is a very tough style matchup

1464
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 9: for him and for Shoeface. You know, this is the

1465
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 9: kind of matchup that you want a guy who kind

1466
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 9: of backs up, looks to try to counter here and there,

1467
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 9: but for the most part, if you get him on

1468
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 9: the ground, I think Shoeface is going to be all

1469
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 9: over him. This is a very different fight than one

1470
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 9: that is against he Ian Heinisch, and I think he

1471
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 9: learned a lot from that performance.

1472
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 6: I think he made a lot of mistakes in that one.

1473
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 9: And hopefully he comes back Sharper, I like shoe face

1474
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 9: by submission to this one as well.

1475
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 8: All right, and ken Flow, we will have you lead

1476
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 8: on the komain event here it's a pick him right now.

1477
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 8: According to Las Vegas, Nikita Krilov, Glover to share A

1478
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 8: both minus one p. Fifteen will take a round in

1479
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 8: a method of victory if you have it as well.

1480
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 8: Who do you like in the Coomaine coming up in Vancouver?

1481
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 8: You know this is an interesting one, man.

1482
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 9: I think both these guys, you know, for Kreiloff, he's

1483
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 9: been a little bit more consistent. For Glover to share A,

1484
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 9: I don't know, you know, this is at the end

1485
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 9: of his career. He certainly has looked much slower in

1486
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 9: his last few fights. I think he'll have a huge

1487
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 9: advantage if he's able to take this fight to the

1488
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 9: ground and at least positionally, you know, get the better

1489
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 9: of someone like Kreilov. I do think that Kreiloff is

1490
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 9: going to have the speed advantage on the feet. I

1491
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 9: think he has the ability to try to look he

1492
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 9: can get the knockout here against t Shia. But I

1493
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 9: think to Share is going to be a little bit

1494
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 9: too savvy here. I don't think it's going to be

1495
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 9: the most exciting fight, but I like to share here

1496
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 9: to get the win by decision to share a by

1497
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 9: decision I Nikita Krilov twenty six and six, still just

1498
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 9: twenty seven years old. He submitted over in Saint prux

1499
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 9: impressively at UFC two thirty six back in April. Here

1500
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 9: though Colemane event chasing the biggest win of his career

1501
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 9: against the guy in t shera who really has had

1502
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 9: a great you know, twenty nineteen. Thus far, submission wins

1503
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 9: over Carl Robertson more recently Ewan.

1504
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 8: Kute Lava back in April. Talk to me, who do

1505
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 8: you like Glover Tsher and Nikida Kirillov? How do they

1506
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 8: get it done.

1507
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 3: Well?

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01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 5: Kenny broke it down essentially perfectly. The only thing I

1509
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 5: will say about Globerg is that he's showing us that

1510
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 5: even though he'd getting rocked get seem like every fight,

1511
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 5: he still somehow comes back and uses that high fight

1512
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 5: IQ and the veteran sauce if you want to call

1513
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: it that, and get the fights to the ground to

1514
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 5: do it. Against Carl Roberson, he was getting hammered. We

1515
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 5: thought that fight was getting put away and what did

1516
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: he do? He was able to submit. Not saying that

1517
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: Roberson is the top guy, but Roberson showed us he's

1518
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 5: a very athletic fighter and he's got to He's a

1519
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 5: guy on the up and up. Iron Krutzalava very dangerous.

1520
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 5: He was able to weather that really nasty storm and

1521
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 5: get the sub I think with the one thing with

1522
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 5: the Crydloff fight with OSP that we saw though, is

1523
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 5: that someone at OSP should have won that fight. He

1524
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 5: mounted Krylof and Crowdok was able to bounce back. If

1525
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 5: he gets mounted by Glover to share, there's no way

1526
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 5: that that fight's not ending in Glover's favor. I don't

1527
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 5: think Krylov is going to knock out Glover. I also

1528
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 5: don't think he goes to a decision because I don't

1529
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 5: think either one of these guys has the cardio for

1530
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 5: that anymore. If this is going to happen, I'm gonna

1531
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 5: say Glover to share by submission. I'll even go first round.

1532
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 8: Wow Glover by submission in round one Ian Parker John.

1533
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 5: He asked John, he has to do it that way

1534
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 5: or to win this fight. He does not want to

1535
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 5: stand up with a young, faster guy. He's not gonna

1536
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to take any more damage if he

1537
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 5: has one last run left in him. In the division

1538
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 5: as open as this almost is, he's got to do

1539
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 5: it that way.

1540
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree, and I think you put it well.

1541
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 8: All right, We're gonna get your main event picky in

1542
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 8: and then you can hang up any time, because I

1543
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 8: know you're on the clock a little bit.

1544
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 6: We went a little bit long.

1545
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 8: Without Joe all right, main event, bulletproof matchmaking number four

1546
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 8: versus number five in the lightweight division, fifth rank Justin Gaichie,

1547
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 8: the minus one to ninety favorite Donald Cowboy SERRONI comes

1548
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 8: back plus one sixty. Of course we need the round

1549
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: and the method Ian Parker who wins the main event

1550
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 8: in Vancouver, British Columbia.

1551
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 5: This is the fight we've been waiting for. I just

1552
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 5: almost what just happened a year ago. As much as

1553
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 5: I love Donald Soroni, there is no way shape or

1554
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 5: for my embedding against Justin Geechee at these odds, the

1555
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 5: amount of violence he has brought to this confidence level,

1556
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 5: and after what he said to Connor McGregor, I think

1557
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 5: with Sarrooni, we've seen in the past guys that are

1558
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 5: able to get to the inside and pressure him is

1559
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 5: where he really seems to have his trouble, and that

1560
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 5: is all that Gaiche does. I don't know if Donald's

1561
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 5: going to present anything on a power point hold on

1562
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 5: what's that. I'm going to run away from this winning

1563
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 5: behind him that. I don't think Cowboy has the power

1564
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 5: to do with the Gaiechee what other people try to do.

1565
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 5: I just think Gatege is going to bring the violence.

1566
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 5: I do think he's gonna finish SARRONI. We've seen it

1567
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 5: happen before. I'm going Justin Gaigie. Justin gave you second

1568
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 5: round knockout.

1569
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 8: Justin Gaichie round two. Tko Ian, thank you very much.

1570
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 8: You will have to listen back to the episode to

1571
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 8: get ken flows selection.

1572
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 6: We're gonna let you fly, buddy, All good.

1573
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 5: Tell al Joe, this one's on him. He bet he

1574
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 5: better win his next fight to make up for making

1575
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 5: me take less time for that man.

1576
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.

1577
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 5: All good.

1578
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 6: Hey, we'll talk to you next Monday.

1579
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 4: Thanks kidd, Thanks Rob Leaning.

1580
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 8: All right, so we will now get ken Flow's main

1581
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 8: event selection. And I think he might have liked Gechee

1582
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 8: in round two. But I'm gonna set this up a

1583
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 8: little bit justin Gaichee couple of first round knockouts James

1584
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 8: Vick and then Edson Barboza since losing to Dustin Pourier.

1585
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 6: So Geatechie going for three straight wins here.

1586
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 8: And Seroni's a guy who obviously wowed in that main

1587
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 8: event against Ali at Quinta in May, but then he

1588
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,919
Speaker 8: came right back and got knocked out by Tony Ferguson

1589
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 8: like five weeks later. So Gaechie the favorite certainly deserves

1590
01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 8: that distinction.

1591
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 6: I think at two to one.

1592
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 8: Your thoughts on Geechee and Cowboy and how it ends

1593
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 8: this weekend, my man, You.

1594
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 9: Know this one's tricky because for Cowboy, he doesn't start

1595
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 9: off a fight that well.

1596
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 6: Gaechie does start off very fast.

1597
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 9: And he's a guy that is gonna get right in

1598
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 9: your face, and against a guy who's an excellent kicker

1599
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 9: like at Donald Serni, you need to back him up

1600
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 9: and back him up repeatedly throughout the fight, as Ferguson

1601
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 9: did so well on his fight. Ferguson has a little

1602
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 9: bit different of approach than say Gaichie does, But for Geechie,

1603
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 9: I think gay Chie has way more power in his

1604
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 9: hands than Ferguson. Ferguson just has more weapons, and I

1605
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 9: think for Gaechie, this is the fight that he's wanted.

1606
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 9: And we also can't forget that Gaychie mentioned that he

1607
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 9: actually was knocked out by Seroni in training at some point,

1608
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 9: so it's not like Sarnie can't It's not like Seroni

1609
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 9: can't win this fight. I think Sarni's best bet is

1610
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 9: gonna come a little bit later in the fight round three,

1611
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 9: round four, round five. If Saroni can get to that

1612
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 9: third round and not be so beat up, I think

1613
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 9: it's Serroni's fight. However, I think the first two rounds

1614
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 9: are it's gonna be all Gai Chee, and I think

1615
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 9: he's gonna be able to get it done. Ian Parkers's

1616
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 9: round two, I'll go round one Justin Gaichie by knockout.

1617
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 8: Round one Justin Geechee knockout, or Tko for the flow

1618
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 8: who just continues to chip away. You are so destined,

1619
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 8: and it's not even destiny, it's just because you're good.

1620
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 8: But you are so goddamn destined to win the twenty

1621
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 8: nineteen main event Challenge. And let's not forget I don't

1622
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 8: even think I paid off the twenty eighteen then challenge did, right.

1623
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 6: So it just it just means we have to meet

1624
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 6: up and do that.

1625
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 8: That's all it is, right, All you need to do

1626
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 8: is look at my fucking left forearm to know that

1627
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 8: I pay off my bets. It's just we don't get

1628
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 8: to spend any time together anymore. All right, last thing,

1629
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 8: because I didn't get a chance to talk at all

1630
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 8: about Edgson Barbosa and Paul felt right. Just want to

1631
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 8: submit this one thing to you on the way out.

1632
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 8: So seventy maybe eighty percent of people I've heard from

1633
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 8: thought Edson Barbosa won the first two round, as did

1634
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 8: most ringside observers. Okay, generally speaking for me, I thought

1635
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 8: that clearly round one was Barbozos, in round three was

1636
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 8: Paul Felder. So it just depends who you like in

1637
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 8: round two. I don't like when fighters get too much

1638
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 8: credit for a takedown when they don't do much with it.

1639
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 8: And I also do like when the offensive moving forward

1640
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 8: fighter is rewarded. And I do think in this fight,

1641
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 8: at the very least, Paul Felder, even though he was

1642
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 8: getting countered effectively the body when he did move forward

1643
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 8: at times.

1644
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 6: I did like the fact that he landed more.

1645
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 8: Statistically, he had more output statistically, he moved forward more.

1646
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 8: I thought control of the octagon more, even though you

1647
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 8: probably shouldn't even consider that condition. I guess it's just

1648
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 8: a general statement on the way out that I like.

1649
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,520
Speaker 8: At least when an offensive fighter, or the more offensive

1650
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 8: guy in my mind, who's always pressing forward, does get rewarded.

1651
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 9: That's and to your point, who beat up who when

1652
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 9: they hit the ground. Felder did beat up Barbosa on

1653
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 9: the ground. Even though he was on his back, he

1654
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 9: was cutting him up with elbows. He was landing way

1655
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 9: more shots against Barbosa than Barbosa was on him, not

1656
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 9: to mention was kind of close on that arm bar

1657
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 9: as well, So I agree with that. I just thought

1658
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 9: that in the second round overall, Barbosa did more damage

1659
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 9: on the feet and was more effective and cleaner with

1660
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 9: his strikes. But on the ground, Felder was winning. It

1661
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 9: was and that was the That was the round. That was,

1662
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 9: you know, the closest for sure, that or that second round.

1663
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 6: You see why I want open scoring though.

1664
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 8: I mean, imagine if Edson goes back to his stool

1665
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 8: and instead of asking Anderson, Franka and Pahompa.

1666
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 6: If he's up.

1667
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 8: Nosing exactly right, if they told him he was up

1668
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 8: to nil, and I think his his third round sort

1669
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 8: of reflected that sentiment. But imagine he gets to look

1670
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 8: up at the jumbo tron and he knows he needs

1671
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 8: that third round. It'd be fucking bananas, you know. I mean,

1672
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 8: imagine how much it would changed the sport, you know,

1673
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 8: for sure. But there's a problem. Sure, there's a litany

1674
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 8: of reasons why open scoring wouldn't be ideal, but I

1675
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 8: am all for it. All right, we gotta go, Thanks

1676
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1677
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,519
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