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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Miami Dolphins podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw

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<v Speaker 2>to a looking clips about.

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<v Speaker 3>A wide Dolphin touchdown?

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<v Speaker 2>Trick call uncrelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Just blew by it for a second time.

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<v Speaker 1>You knew where he was going right away.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hit that man.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to help you.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone will stup on his man.

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<v Speaker 3>Away Wattle Wadle to a shotgun, back to throw, looking

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<v Speaker 3>at them.

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<v Speaker 2>Up myers touchdown. It's Waddle his sixth touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Pass's the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins. Now check your pulse

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not. What is up?

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<v Speaker 3>Dolphins? And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Miami Dolphins podcast Network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going to everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 3>And on today's show, we continue the training camp pre series,

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<v Speaker 3>stopping by the Edge Group, the guys coming after the Quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll also hear from Jalen Phillips and Emmanuel Ogball on

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<v Speaker 3>a busy edition of the Draft Time Podcast from the

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<v Speaker 3>Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is.

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<v Speaker 2>The Drive Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Maye geffysh Let's get right into my interview with Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>defensive end Emmanuel Ogba. What's up, guys, travispeakefuil here with

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred yards again, Emmanuel Augba's my guest today. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and make our way towards the field house

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<v Speaker 3>over here, em Manual. So you're coming back from last

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<v Speaker 3>year off the injury. I have to imagine you're pretty

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<v Speaker 3>fired up to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Back at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no, there's a long time wait and I

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<v Speaker 4>can't wait to get back out there my brothers looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to this season.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my favorite things about watching practice out here

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<v Speaker 3>every day is watching coach Clark just kind of get

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit animated. Tell us about what he's What's

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<v Speaker 3>what's it like playing for coach Clerk?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, he brings the energy to the team. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he wants the best out of us, So you know

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<v Speaker 4>he's out there yelling. He's trying to get under our

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<v Speaker 4>skin because he knows we can do better. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>one thing I like about.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, he gets a good breush out of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess that's for sure. So you guys heading out to

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<v Speaker 3>Houston for joint practices this year, that's your hometown. You

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<v Speaker 3>got the football camp coming up here next month, right,

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<v Speaker 3>how's that going to be?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's gonna be amazing. We've got the football camp

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<v Speaker 4>July eighth. Can't wait to see the kids. Came to

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<v Speaker 4>meet the kids that was. We're going to have some

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<v Speaker 4>kids that were here last year as well. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and also got the joint practice in Houston. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>wait for that too. And all my family and friends

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be there as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have plans, are ready to meet up with

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<v Speaker 3>the family when you get out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, already told her. I was going, Hey, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>days we have off, No, I'm ready for that home

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<v Speaker 4>Couick Meal.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had the football camp coming up in Houston,

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<v Speaker 3>but you also had the trip to Africa that you

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<v Speaker 3>took recently this offseason. Did that kind of get you

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<v Speaker 3>ready for some updated drills, maybe some updated practices there

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<v Speaker 3>at the camp?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, would say, mostly just inspise men to talk

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<v Speaker 4>to the kids about certain things like you got to

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<v Speaker 4>be grateful for your opportunity that you have that those

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<v Speaker 4>kids don't really have much, and they're excited to be

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<v Speaker 4>out there and listen and learn. Also some drills too

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<v Speaker 4>that I learned a longer way too.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, So we got You know, you've been here for

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<v Speaker 3>this is your fourth year, first year under coach Fangio.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it been, kind of adapting to the way he

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<v Speaker 3>coachesn't his scheme here on defense been?

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<v Speaker 4>It's been unique because you know, he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 4>genius on the defense. So you know, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>put players in the best position available. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to listen and learn. And also you

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<v Speaker 4>know I'm taking notes, you know, learning different position groups.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So last year we saw Tyreek Kill get added to

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<v Speaker 3>the offense, you know, an All Pro, but very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I tell you how he's gonna beat you on

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<v Speaker 3>the defense? Now you got a guy like ja and

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<v Speaker 3>Rams in the back end. What's it like incorporating him

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<v Speaker 3>personality wise and skill wise to that defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's a talented player and we're happy to have him.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's going to bring a lot to the

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<v Speaker 4>defense and I can't wait to see him out there.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna be fun to watch. So you got training

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<v Speaker 3>camp coming up, trip back to Houston, anything else going

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<v Speaker 3>on the summer?

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<v Speaker 2>You're looking forward.

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<v Speaker 4>To just training and getting back, you know, getting the

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<v Speaker 4>tip top shake, coming to camp, attacking it.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's go to go. How did the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two season kind of prepare you for what's to come?

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<v Speaker 3>Because obviously lots of adversity for the team, yourself personally,

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<v Speaker 3>How does that kind of prepare you to take that

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<v Speaker 3>next step next year?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you never know when your last players, so you

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<v Speaker 4>know you got to give it you all every single play,

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I'm just ready to go out there

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<v Speaker 4>and just give him my all every single.

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<v Speaker 3>Place and appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Thanks, thank you, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>And there he goes. One of my favorite people here

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<v Speaker 3>inside the entire building. E Manual has been very good

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<v Speaker 3>to me for very many years now, so appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>as always a manual. Let's go ahead and take our

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<v Speaker 3>first break right here and come back on the other

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<v Speaker 3>side and preview his position group, and then we'll also

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<v Speaker 3>hear from Jalen Phillips.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to miss that one.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that and more next on the Draft Time podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>your host Travis Wingfield, brought.

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<v Speaker 2>To you by Auto Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop me if you've heard this before, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're about to talk about one of the deepest and

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<v Speaker 3>best position groups in the NFL. It does feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we have several position groups that I feel that way

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<v Speaker 3>towards with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Dolphins football team.

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<v Speaker 3>But once I gave you the numbers and the details here,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you'll agree with me. Number two, Bradley Chubb

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<v Speaker 3>is where we kick it off in order of jersey number.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Dolphins pass rush rate took off last year

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<v Speaker 3>when Bradley Chubb arrived, and we thought it might signal

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<v Speaker 3>more of a defensive shift philosophically, it didn't really do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the new coaching staff in place this year

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<v Speaker 3>will kind of see through, or see that through, I

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<v Speaker 3>should say. And the production of Jalen Phillips went from

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<v Speaker 3>very good to the one of the most consistent pass

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<v Speaker 3>rushers in the NFL once Chubb arrived. Just look at

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<v Speaker 3>the splits before and after all. The numbers are substantially better.

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<v Speaker 3>I lost track of how many pressures Phillips had recorded

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<v Speaker 3>in two point five seconds or less. But the ball

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<v Speaker 3>comes out and sack production, you know, it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>reminds me of like RBIs and baseball a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>antiquated in terms of measuring an individual's prowess, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>not an individual stat. If you whip your man one

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<v Speaker 3>on one and the quarterback throws on a three step

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<v Speaker 3>hitch up timing, that's out in one point eight seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>What else can you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you set the tackle up, you beat him

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<v Speaker 3>with your move, and then the quarterback just got rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the ball before you even had chance to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's there's nothing you can do about that. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't look at sacks as like the end all be all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, they're important to get quarterbacks on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>that to end drives, but consistently pressuring the quarterback typically

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<v Speaker 3>results in more sacks. So it's process over results. And

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<v Speaker 3>for Bradley, he's a multifaceted player. Hand in the dirt,

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<v Speaker 3>stand up rusher either side, condensed inside loop inside off

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<v Speaker 3>of the stunts and rush games win with speed off

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<v Speaker 3>the edge rush. The quarterback on the way to the

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<v Speaker 3>run does peek inside a little bit sometimes on the

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<v Speaker 3>outside contain. We saw that in the Buffalo game a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times. But there's a reason he was a

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<v Speaker 3>number five overall pick, you know a couple of years back.

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<v Speaker 3>He is as physically getted as they come. He's lengthy,

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<v Speaker 3>he's bendy, has good burst, a nice assortment of counter

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<v Speaker 3>moves to deal with you know what guys might do

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<v Speaker 3>to fort his original pass rush and get that second

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<v Speaker 3>effort sack that is so crucial. He was top ten

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<v Speaker 3>last year in pass rush win rate, which again goes

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<v Speaker 3>back to the whole process aspect, like you can tangibly,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, point to that metric and say, here's him

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<v Speaker 3>winning his pass rush moves, just you know, the result

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<v Speaker 3>is sometimes out of his control, and we saw that

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<v Speaker 3>last year was number ten among edge rushers. He finished

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<v Speaker 3>with fifty four quarterback pressures, had twenty eight of those

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<v Speaker 3>with us. He had twenty five total run stops and

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<v Speaker 3>eight total sacks twentyquarterback hits. Those are good numbers. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not really sure where this, you know, I guess thought

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<v Speaker 3>comes that he wasn't productive.

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<v Speaker 1>He was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was definitely that for us, and I expected to

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<v Speaker 3>be even more so here reuniting with Fick Fangio. The

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<v Speaker 3>guy that I expect to have maybe the biggest year

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<v Speaker 3>on the entire defense is number fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Phillips.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of good numbers, he had a breakout year Man,

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<v Speaker 3>even though his sack total went down by one and

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<v Speaker 3>a half eight point five to seven. He's also only

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<v Speaker 3>a second Dolphin ever to start their career with two

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<v Speaker 3>seasons of seven or more sacks. And this is why

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think sacks tell the whole story. He has

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<v Speaker 3>nine more quarterback hits. You know, from those two years

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen to twenty five, he made nineteen more tackles, had

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<v Speaker 3>better fumble production, two squatted passes more, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>QB pressures. He ended the year fifth in ESPN's pass

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<v Speaker 3>rush win rate among edges. He went from thirty nine

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<v Speaker 3>pressures as a rookie, which is good, it's very good,

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<v Speaker 3>up to seventy seven. Seventy seven pressures.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>That was six in the NFL, behind only Parsons, Bosa, Reddick,

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<v Speaker 3>Crosby ends a Darius Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>You understand that group that he's part of.

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<v Speaker 3>There, I mean, I guess you can do what a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks do with the two of stats you

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<v Speaker 3>know on Twitter and tell me doesn't count because two

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<v Speaker 3>was in there, Like, yeah, that's the class that he's

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<v Speaker 3>playing among. It was four more than Miles Garrett. For

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<v Speaker 3>what it's worth, the best edge rusher in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ask me, well, Parsons has made that a

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<v Speaker 3>good debate, But I digress. Phillips was built in a lab,

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<v Speaker 3>exceptional testing numbers by every measure, and it translates to football.

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<v Speaker 2>He's dedicated to the craft and I think it shows.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we saw the photo that went around the

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<v Speaker 3>Internet of him popping the shirt off there at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of practice the effort. How many times do we

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<v Speaker 3>see a quarterback think they had the pocket escaped and

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<v Speaker 3>cleared and a path for a big run, only to

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<v Speaker 3>get flagged down from the back by number fifteen. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got a rush arsenal that allows him to set guys

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<v Speaker 3>up and then exploit overplays later on in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you keep on.

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<v Speaker 3>Threatening that inside post, you get him to squeeze and then

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<v Speaker 3>he goes outside at the speed. Very good game plan

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<v Speaker 3>as far as his rush attack goes. He kicks inside

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<v Speaker 3>and rushes from that three tech position. And I mean

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<v Speaker 3>to have tape of you winning with speed around a

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<v Speaker 3>tackle off the edge and then also so steamrolling a

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and thirty pound guard inside. I just think

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<v Speaker 3>this is a rare type of player who we saw

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<v Speaker 3>scratch the surface of star counting stats a year ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think putting him in situations where he can

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<v Speaker 3>get more one on ones without committing rushers, which is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of where the ball comes out quickly because you

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<v Speaker 3>sends seven guys. A quarterback knows I got vulnera blayers

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<v Speaker 3>in the back end, I'll go ahead and just pop

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<v Speaker 3>this thing out in two seconds, and Phillips is two

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<v Speaker 3>point one. Pass rush is no longer viable, So just

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<v Speaker 3>a quarterback hit, but you know, makes them more susceptible

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<v Speaker 3>in the back end to send the rushers rushing just

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<v Speaker 3>for should see those quick pressures when the ball comes out,

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<v Speaker 3>turn those QB hits and hurries hopefully into sacks and

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<v Speaker 3>game changing plays. He also added forty two run stops,

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<v Speaker 3>which is also tied for six among his position group.

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<v Speaker 3>Crosby Lawrence Bosa, Naosu, daneil Hunter, and Micah Parsons the

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<v Speaker 3>names in that group exceptional exceptional football players here then

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips number forty three Andrew Van Ginkle. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>every roster needs and Andrew Van Ginkle, and maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>hair as well, probably every position of does pretty quietly

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<v Speaker 3>goes about his work, has evolving roles that he just

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<v Speaker 3>professionally executes.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been a.

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<v Speaker 3>Critical part of our core special teams really since his

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<v Speaker 3>second year here. He stepped in in a pinch and

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<v Speaker 3>given us sixty edge snaps, winning with critical pass rushes.

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<v Speaker 3>Like think back to that twenty twenty game in Las

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<v Speaker 3>Vegas where Kyle van Noy was down. He steps up

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<v Speaker 3>and gets sixty snaps in that game and gets a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of sacks, and I think even a I think

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<v Speaker 3>a fourth funnel.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 3>He's shown growth and effectiveness as a run defender each year,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wins with this pass rush above league average rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips and Chubb will get the marquee when you talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know this group as national spotlight goes, but you

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<v Speaker 3>consider getting Ogbob back Andrew van Ginkel Malik read, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just in the discussion for best room and position

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<v Speaker 3>group in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the top guys goes.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be the deepest too, because you have legit

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<v Speaker 3>pass rushers four or five six deep here he's listed

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<v Speaker 3>at two forty two. I remember doing a podcast with

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew his second year when he was here, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, we were talking about how he was stuck

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and seventeen pounds it with Conston, and that

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<v Speaker 3>had been his focus those first few years, adding functional strength,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he's done that very well. He went

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<v Speaker 3>from eight hundred and one snaps in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>to three hundred and fifty seven last year, which coincides

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<v Speaker 3>with a three to zero seven versus one oh six

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<v Speaker 3>pass rush rep count, so you see that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>drop off in playing time, but the efficiency was not

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<v Speaker 3>very different. Forty five pressures compared to eleven, thirty eight

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<v Speaker 3>run stops compared to eighteen. I think you pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly what you get with Andrew when you put

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<v Speaker 3>him on the field, and that's why I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>important to have guys like him. He's a picture of

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<v Speaker 3>consistency and he strengthens your depth in multiple ways. I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned to Malik Reid number forty seven already. I view

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<v Speaker 3>him and Van Ginkle in relatively similar fashion, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>their skills or play style, but rather in the quiet professionalism,

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<v Speaker 3>the consistency of personality and play. Reid was a beast

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<v Speaker 3>when he was with Fangio, and the only year where

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<v Speaker 3>the statistic co didn't jump off the page for him

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<v Speaker 3>was last year, and he was traded on like September fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>to a defense that I don't think suited his skill set.

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<v Speaker 3>To come up the depth chart as a UDFA and

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<v Speaker 3>Fangio's first year, and to then earn four hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty eight snaps and produce twenty quarterback pressures on just

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and thirty four pass rush snaps, and then

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<v Speaker 3>to go full time starter within the next year after

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<v Speaker 3>that and go to seven hundred and thirty seven snaps

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<v Speaker 3>and seven hundred and eighty five total snaps on defense, respectively,

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<v Speaker 3>and to check in with thirty six and twenty seven

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<v Speaker 3>QB pressures totaling thirteen sacks and twenty five quarterback hits.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember reading a story about him and von

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<v Speaker 3>Miller saying that Malik was the blueprint for how a

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<v Speaker 3>player with that pedigree undrafted should go about his work

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<v Speaker 3>coming into the NFL. Again, consistency, you know what you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get in terms of production, work in the classroom,

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<v Speaker 3>weight room, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You can

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<v Speaker 3>make up a pretty damn good football team if you

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<v Speaker 3>have fifty three guys just with those trades alone and

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<v Speaker 3>you hear as far as what he does well, because

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<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of you guys probably haven't you

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<v Speaker 3>washed him play yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear the term bend a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy has exceptional acceleration around the edge as he

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<v Speaker 3>works under the bigger tackles. He's only six foot two.

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<v Speaker 3>Most tackles go about sixty five r six five sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>He's compactly built, with excellent flexibility and strength to hold like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to one leg it and kind of absorb

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<v Speaker 3>a double team or a you know, a drive block.

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<v Speaker 3>But as a pass rush, you see it in the

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<v Speaker 3>way he gets around that edge and can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, show the flexibility in the lower half and

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<v Speaker 3>stay on balance while he chops or rips and explodes

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<v Speaker 3>around the corner, using the leverage of the tackle to

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<v Speaker 3>gain acceleration as he does corner. He also has really

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<v Speaker 3>good inside step and lateral agility to help execute games,

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<v Speaker 3>and that pairs really well with his ability to play

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<v Speaker 3>off the ball and drop into coverage because all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden you have a player like I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he's coming or if he's dropping, because he has

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to do either on any given play. Big

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<v Speaker 3>big fan of this acquisition. Number fifty Mitchell Agude the

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<v Speaker 3>UDFA from Miami, coming off a very impressive OTAs where

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<v Speaker 3>once we got to know Mitchell's story a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>it became a little more intriguing as he was playing

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<v Speaker 3>better and better each day. He talked, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a Spider Man meme nature of his similar path

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<v Speaker 3>to Jalen Phillips UCLA UM to the Miami Dolphins. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the burst that I'm most excited to watch here at camp.

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<v Speaker 3>He played really damn fast and that helped create the

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<v Speaker 3>production in those OTA practices. Now no pads can he

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<v Speaker 3>parlay that into when the pads go on and keep ascending.

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<v Speaker 3>You do that into preseason games, you get preseason production.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you find yourself making a fifty three meters roster.

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<v Speaker 3>He notched seventy eight career quarterback pressures on seven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty seven career pass rush snaps in college and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy run stops in five hundred and twenty two snaps

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<v Speaker 3>in the running game. So a very productive collegiate career.

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<v Speaker 3>Number fifty three Cameron Good speaking of productive college careers,

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<v Speaker 3>the former cal bear as in year number two, the

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<v Speaker 3>former seventh round draft pick back in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>also showed up with some splash plays and OTA's this

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<v Speaker 3>spring after something of a red shirt rookie year. He

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<v Speaker 3>played five years at Cal, though two of those were

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<v Speaker 3>fractions of seasons because of an injury in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>and the pandemic shortened season back in twenty twenty. But

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<v Speaker 3>all things told, almost one thousand reps as a pass

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<v Speaker 3>rusher in nine to ninety seven, got one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>six pressures out of that, twenty two hundred snaps on defense,

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<v Speaker 3>with ninety seven run stops against nine hundred plays against

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<v Speaker 3>the run number fifty six. Garrett Nelson another rookie, well

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<v Speaker 3>not another one, but like a goody undrafted rookie. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny. I keep talking about the waves of known

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<v Speaker 3>commodities at this position that we have, and then all

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<v Speaker 3>I can talk about was how good the rookies were

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<v Speaker 3>in OTAs, And of course Chubb and Phillips didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of run in those practices ogball as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Garrett Nelson was another one, you know. Phillips mentioned Nelson

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<v Speaker 3>and Aguda as two guys that really impressed him during OTAs.

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<v Speaker 3>You might not find a hotter motor than Garrett Nelson.

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<v Speaker 3>He's all effort, all the time. Go look at what

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<v Speaker 3>Nebraska fans had to say about Garrett Nelson. They love

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<v Speaker 3>this dude because he plays with his hair on fire

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<v Speaker 3>at all times. He had thirty two quarterback pressures in

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<v Speaker 3>back to back years the last couple of seasons to

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<v Speaker 3>finish up his four year college stay. Also had thirty

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<v Speaker 3>three run stops and twenty two to go along with that,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, effective in both phases of the game

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<v Speaker 3>played nearly two thousand snaps up there in Lincoln, number

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<v Speaker 3>ninety Randy Charlton, I keep thinking like Randy Johnson, Norm Charlton.

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<v Speaker 3>My Seattle marriage influence there popping up here a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember him most from OTA's when he broke the

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<v Speaker 3>sled on the first day of practice. He began his

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<v Speaker 3>college career at UCF for three years, then transfer to

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<v Speaker 3>Mississippi State for two. There, he had fifty one pressures

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<v Speaker 3>on five hundred and seventy seven pass rush reps and

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<v Speaker 3>then forty one run stops on four hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 3>nine plays against the run, ending here with number ninety one.

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<v Speaker 3>Emmanual Ogba really the only true even front defensive end

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<v Speaker 3>down lineman on the roster. I never understand why this

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<v Speaker 3>happens in football, but I always feel like people forget

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<v Speaker 3>about players the year after an injury. With Ogba, that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a mistake. He was top ten among

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<v Speaker 3>edges in a lot of the major categories the PFF

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<v Speaker 3>tracks his first two years here with the Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 3>After last year was cut short. We're not crafting depth

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<v Speaker 3>charts here, but with Phillips and Chubb, there's a chance

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<v Speaker 3>you could call Ogba like your number three rusher. And

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<v Speaker 3>to have a guy who posted one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven pressures and fifty six run stops in two years

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<v Speaker 3>in that role, I don't think you'd find that anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>else in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been a closer for us.

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<v Speaker 3>That big pass rush when he had last year on

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<v Speaker 3>the final Bills drive back in Week three, which forced

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<v Speaker 3>a holding call that put Buffalo away behind the chains,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they didn't lose those ten yards, they're proably

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<v Speaker 3>kicking a field goal to win that game, or at

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<v Speaker 3>least lining up to do so. When he gets those

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<v Speaker 3>one on one chances, he usually capitalizes. Another example of

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<v Speaker 3>the right, kind of guy, goes about his business, good leader,

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<v Speaker 3>beloved in the locker room, does what he's asked. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be shocked if Emmanuel comes back totally healthy and doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a big bounce back season.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, this position group is freaking loaded.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. Let's go ahead and take our last break rate

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<v Speaker 3>there and come back on the other side. And hear

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<v Speaker 3>from Dolphins outside linebacker Jalen Phillips. That's next Draft Time podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Wingfield here for another edition of one hundred Yards

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<v Speaker 3>with Travis Wingfield. Dolphins outside linebacker JAYM. Phillip showings me today, Jayden,

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<v Speaker 3>how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Nor on Fantastic Cake and playing Man's Sunny Day

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<v Speaker 1>and South Florida. Man, we living good.

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<v Speaker 3>The heat is coming and going today mostly on, but

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<v Speaker 3>we'll deal with as we go. So, speaking of the heat,

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of broke social media the other day. The

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<v Speaker 3>image came out of you after practice looking good. I'm curious, man,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the workout regimen you have to put in to

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<v Speaker 3>get looking like that? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a cumulative effect, man, Its years of lifting. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess ever since I got to you, I really

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<v Speaker 1>started to kind of focus back on my body, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ever since then, it's my kind of mantra

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<v Speaker 1>is just to do more than what's required in me

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. So you know, obviously we got our

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<v Speaker 1>lifts in the weight room, but afterwards, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's arms, whether it's core, whether it's some extra stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always doing that. So man, a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>plays into diet as well. I mean I've been huge

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<v Speaker 1>in my diet for the last couple of years. So ye, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to be the best I can and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have the best performance on the field. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta look the part that's all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask you how many times you can

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<v Speaker 3>betch press me, but it might be more appropriate to

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<v Speaker 3>ask you anytimes you get armcrill me from a buck sixty?

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<v Speaker 4>Man, arm cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the bench actually be a better question. I

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<v Speaker 1>can probably bench you about thirty times something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did twenty one with two twenty five, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you a few bucks sixty, I get you a smooth thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I had to flight it might come something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, speaking of bench press. You probably don't do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of that, you know postcomby at least not

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<v Speaker 3>measured wise. But you know you're going to year three now,

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<v Speaker 3>last year valuable playoff experience for this team. Just curious

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<v Speaker 3>from your perspective, young guy kind of coming into your

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<v Speaker 3>own in the league. Now, what was that experience like

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<v Speaker 3>for you and the team? You know, not just the

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<v Speaker 3>playoff game, but down the stretch getting all those really

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<v Speaker 3>important games. But I think that does for the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's huge, just preps us to be

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<v Speaker 1>in that big spotlight. I think getting the exposure feeling

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<v Speaker 1>in that playoff environment was really great for us. So

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely kind of makes us hungry. It's like, once

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<v Speaker 1>you get a taste of it, you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to it. So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of a taste of We have a game in

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<v Speaker 3>Germany this year. You told me before we got on

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<v Speaker 3>the camera here you did some traveling in Europe back

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<v Speaker 3>when you were a youth. I'm curious, so are you

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<v Speaker 3>excited to get back in What parts of Europe did

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<v Speaker 3>you go.

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<v Speaker 1>To when you're younger. Yeah, I'm super excited to get back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm huge traveling fanatic. I'm just trying to go all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. So I actually went to Germany when

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably twelve or so. My sister and I

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<v Speaker 1>flew out there because my aunt was stationed on in

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<v Speaker 1>an army base out there. So we went to Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of cities in Germany, we did the Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 1>we did Luxembourg, Austria, France. So yeah, culture shut out

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<v Speaker 1>to my parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, coast to coast, guy to UCLA in Miami, all

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff. So obviously coming here this season, new defensive

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<v Speaker 3>corner of Vic Fangie, I'm curious what excites you about

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<v Speaker 3>playing in his defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm just excited because I mean, you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>all the success he's had in the past, obviously with

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<v Speaker 1>the D line linebackers back in, so I'm just excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see it all come together. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we needed something fresh, and you know, with a group

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that we have and how close we are,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, it's just that one missing piece,

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<v Speaker 1>one a couple of missing pieces. So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. We've been gadling great so far, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a great season.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been really well known for your work in the

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<v Speaker 3>community down here so far, your first couple of years

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<v Speaker 3>in South Florida. What have you been up to lately.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're a big part of the DCC. How's

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<v Speaker 3>that been going for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been great. I'm being a board member again

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I did another one hundred miles again this year,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it doesn't get any better each time I

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<v Speaker 1>do it, so but it's an amazing cause it's I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you know. I'll do it ten times over five too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you work out for football, like I always

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<v Speaker 3>like my wife insanceays, did you different workout classes like

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<v Speaker 3>that made me so sore? It's like, yeah, train for

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<v Speaker 3>that muscle. Yeah, when you do football workout, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>prepare you for a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bike rider at all at all. Being hunched over in

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<v Speaker 1>the saddle for five and a half hours is some

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<v Speaker 1>of you really can't prepare for unless you are an

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<v Speaker 1>active bike rider. Absolutely, maybe I'll train a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more of this offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very admable what you do with us here, So

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<v Speaker 3>faith appreciate you time today.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely really good stuff there.

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<v Speaker 3>Once again, enjoy talking to all these guys. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you can you can get the feel for the type

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<v Speaker 3>of player they want in the locker room based upon

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<v Speaker 3>these conversations you have with the guys, because they're all

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<v Speaker 3>just so humble and understand kind of the task at

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<v Speaker 3>hand ahead of them, and I guess what comes with

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<v Speaker 3>being a professional football player. It's been fun to get

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<v Speaker 3>to know this group and cannot wait to get out

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<v Speaker 3>there on the practice field. Let's go ahead and enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>our last weekend before football starts, though. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday and talk all things defensive backs, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>finish up on Tuesday with specialist and defensive tackles.

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