WEBVTT - EP. 151 - Sarah Hoffman 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.640 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, a production of 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:11.240 I Heart Radio. Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.040 I am your host, Shane Bacon, and we're starting something 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:19.960 new this week, Fun Positive. If you will, We're gonna 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.639 do a few episodes in a row with people in 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.480 and around the golf community that are helping out and 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.479 going above and beyond during this COVID pandemic. And we 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.559 are starting with a young lady who plays golf on 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.599 the Symmetric Tour named Sarah Hoffman. And Sarah is a 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.120 nurse some of the year and a golfer some of 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.599 the year, and she bounces back and forth between both jobs. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.920 And she went back to the hospital once all of 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.320 this became obviously a huge thing. Sarah went back to 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.880 the hospital that she has worked at in the winters 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.720 when golf is on hiatus and said, I'll help out 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.840 any way possible. And I had a chance to chat 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.880 with here for a good amount of time, about half 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.600 an hour. We talked about the decision to go back 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.720 and what it was like, and the golf game and 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.399 where it is at this current state, and how little 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.959 golf she's been able to play and the plans for 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.720 the rest of the year. It was a great conversation, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.200 and this is something that I'm gonna keep doing over 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:19.880 the next few weeks. Is I'm gonna talk to some 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.800 people in and around the golf community that have done 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.679 something different, as that guy said above and beyond to 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.000 help out any and always possible, And I just figured 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.800 it would be a way for you to maybe know 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.920 a little bit more about people that are doing these things. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.440 That is the hope to all you out there. I 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.880 hope you're being safe. I hope you're being smart. I 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.039 hope you're staying healthy. I hope you were being positive. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.080 That is also a big part of this, trying to 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.200 stay positive through all this. I know a lot of 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.760 states are opening up golf. More and more states are 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.200 doing that. Just again, be smart when you do that. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.680 Golf is a great way to go out and do something. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.640 Arizona has allowed golf basically this entire time. I don't 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.640 think there was day golf was shut down in the 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.320 state I live in. But we've you know, just I 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.720 bring my own water bottles and I wet my towel 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.359 before I go to the golf course. Now I've got 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.080 to obviously rewat it a couple of times because it's 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.119 like a hundred and thirty degrees in Arizona right now. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.799 But you know, I bring hand sanitizer. I attached it 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.000 on my golf bag, and I'm just trying to do 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.120 little things that I know would cause me to touch 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.320 stuff that I don't want to touch when I'm on 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.560 the golf course. So just try to think. Think of 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.400 all the stuff you touch when you're on a golf course. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.440 If you have an old golf glove, like an old 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.200 nasty glove that you want to throw away, use that one. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.240 If you've got to pick up, you know, range range 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.080 ball buckets, or if you've got to use it to 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.280 punch in a code to get your range balls. Little 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.160 things like that always helpful, just easy ways to avoid 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:48.360 touching stuff. As we continue to go through this, let's 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.240 let's get to Sarah. I want to I want you 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.520 all to hear her story, and we welcome into the 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.800 clubhouse somebody. I'm I'm excited to chat with Sarah Hoffman, 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.200 a professional golfer on the Semmetra Tour. But that it's 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.520 not why we're going to chat Sarah. I want to 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.080 chat about some other things. But before we get to 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.040 those things, I wanted you too. You know, we've got 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.560 golf people listening and people that know a lot about 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.440 the PGA Tour and the LPGA Tour. Can you just 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:19.000 explain to people a what the semetritory is and how 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:23.680 long you've been out there in your career through professional golf. Yeah, awesome, 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.640 thanks for having me, Shane. Um. So, the Smutra Tour 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.560 is the developmental tour for the LPGA, So it works 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.839 like the Corn Farry Tour whereat the end of the year, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.320 there's UM ten cards that are up for grabs, so 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.880 the top ten on the money list every year go 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:44.520 directly to the LPGA and then um based on how 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.280 you finish on the money list, you can go to 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.800 certain levels of Q School and try and earn your 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.600 way out of the LPGA through that way as well. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.840 And how long have you been playing, you know, bouncing 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.600 on the semmeritore. I know you've played some LPGA as well. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.360 Know you've played some Q school as well. How long 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.040 have you been out on the Semetric Tour. So I've 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.760 been trying on the Semetric Tour since two thousand sixteen. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.520 In two sixteen, I got partial status for the seventeen 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.120 season and I played four events, and then last year, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.440 two thousand nineteen was my first full year on Sumetra. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.400 And this is why I had you on, not because 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.320 I don't want to talk about your golf game, because 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.479 I would like to talk about your actual golf game. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.080 But we are going through unprecedented times. Everybody listening knows 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:36.840 that obviously, with COVID and and self isolation and quarantining, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.920 it is a weird time in society and civilization. And Sarah, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.640 you have done something that I think everybody will be 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.640 massively impressed with, something that I feel like a lot 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.840 of people a can't do and maybe wouldn't do, is 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.640 you put the golf clubs away. Obviously, Symmetric Tour is 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.920 on hiatus now, as every professional sport is. But you're 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.240 someone that as a nursing degree and you've gone back 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.120 to help out. And I just wanted to start with 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.080 the decision there because I know you spent a lot 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.599 of the off season at at a at a hospital. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.600 You said, it looks like you spend basically October to 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.880 January at a hospital, and then you get back into golf. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.360 The decision personally for you to get back into a 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.880 hospital and try to help out. Yeah, so the decision 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.440 to go back to the hospital was a little bit 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.839 limited on information. We knew. We had played the first 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.440 event on so much with part and then our California 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:37.000 swing got canceled, and so I was just waiting for 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.800 an update to figure out when we were supposed to 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.000 resume season UM. I was in Atlanta at the time 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:48.159 and trying to get a travel contract, which means anywhere 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.320 from Usually it's a third team week contract UM, but 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.480 due to the pandemic, they for offering shorter contracts from 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.039 four to eight weeks, and so I was trying to 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:03.360 figure out what contract I could sign that wouldn't I 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.160 wouldn't interfere with my ability to play as many tournaments 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.320 as I could on Sumetra, especially if we're going to 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.000 have a limited season with limited events. I knew I 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:15.520 couldn't necessarily afford to give up an event or to 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.559 to UM to the field where they could be making 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.680 money and and I couldn't, So I was waiting for 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.240 an update. Once we got an update, I tried to 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.920 get a travel nursing job in Atlanta, but I've never 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.279 worked as a travel nurse, so that position didn't come. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:36.159 But um, you know, I had this temp job at 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:41.840 Michigan Medicine, and Michigan was one of the hotbeds. Um 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.600 is one of the hotbeds, and so I, uh, it 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.040 was a tough decision. I think it's hard when there's 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.800 any amount of uncertainty that um, it's it's kind of 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.120 easy to go to the worst case scenario in your head. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.279 So when I would think about the worst case scenario 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.640 and potentially developing COVID nineteen myself or passing it on 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.200 my as if I were to stay with my parents, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:09.560 then I would be absolutely terrified. But that um, when 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.520 I started to think about how much the community with 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:18.000 carping up, and how people were donating ppe so personal 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.400 protective equipment such as maths, and people were even making 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.360 maths for health care workers, and how so many people 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.760 were willing to work at home to help spread or 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.760 to help stop the spread of COVID nineteen. Um, I 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.320 knew that if I looked back when this all was 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.480 over and I just took the time to only work 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.240 on my golf game and and sit on the couch 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.280 when I had the skills necessary to go back to 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.360 the hospital and help my co workers on the front line, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.480 that I would regret not doing everything everything in my 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.040 power to help you. Talk about worst case scenario. I 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.400 feel like we as humans, we especially as Americans, tend 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.160 to and and golfers for matter, I mean golfers, we 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.200 look at a hole and go, there's water left and 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.360 out of bounds. Right, you know, this is brutal out 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.000 by I hope I just keep it on the planet. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.960 How has it been for you in terms of what 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.520 you thought maybe worst case scenario and what it has 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.920 been like for you in the hospital day to day. Yeah. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.240 So when I made the decision, we were we were 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.840 in the peak UM and so Michigan Medicine had two 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.640 patients I think was their their peak um, which meant 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.560 there were in the sick U, which is a surgical 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.200 I SU. There were um two patients per room where 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.960 normally there's only one patient. And they had opened up 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.920 a rick you, which was a special special i SU 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.720 for COVID positive patients, and they had opened one unit 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.760 and then they had to end up opening a second 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.720 second unit, and so it was starting to get um, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.600 starting to get to that worst case scenario that are 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:59.920 we going to have enough ventilator's situation and UM luck 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.680 the Michigan's governor H. Gretchen Whitmer put in some pretty 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:10.680 strict stay at home orders and UM fortunately for the hospital, UM, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:16.000 Michigan residents were UM following those orders and their efforts 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.959 made a direct IMPACTUM on the front line. So by 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.320 the time I got got to Michigan and started working 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.800 at the end of April, we were already seeing UH 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.559 decline in the amount of cases. So in the beginning, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:36.120 UM my my floor had UH positive COVID patients and 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.880 UM fortunately by the time I got there, so far, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.160 we haven't had any COVID positive patients on on my unit. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.760 You know, I was reading a little bit about you 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.600 on the Semmetric to our website. I was reading about 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.880 your collegiate schedule with your nursing degree and also playing, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.480 and I mean, you had an unbelievable collegiate career, three 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.400 time Women's Golf Association Division to All American at Grand 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.960 Valley State University. I mean, you're you're you're a great 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.280 collegiate player. But there were there were days when you 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.880 were in school and you'd be in class from nine 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.679 am to nine pm. You credit your coach with changing 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.320 your scheduling, and I've already mentioned your work schedule now 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.920 where you go in from October to January. Do you 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.400 consider yourself a golfer that's also a nurse or you 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.160 a nurse that's also a golfer. That's a good question. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.000 I don't know if I've ever thought about it. Um. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.600 I think when I'm golfing, I'm a golfer that's also 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.040 a nurse. And I think when I'm nursing, I'm a 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.120 nurse that also happens to be a golfer. Yeah, I 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.160 mean it just as as I kind of read through 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.080 bios and stories on you, and and and current stories 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.600 about you making this decision to go back to the hospital, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.280 you know, it really does paint this picture of this 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.560 person that has always balanced these two things. And you know, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.880 I don't I don't think a lot of people understand 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.760 the life that a symmetric tour player is choosing. I mean, 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.400 we read about corn corn Ferry a lot. You know, 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.120 I'll occasionally see a mini tour story pop up here 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.360 and there. But you are both trying to make money 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.640 as a golfer, and you also have a job, as 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.000 you call it, on the side that helps pay the bills. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.960 And I mean this is a job in a hospital 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.120 helping people. So it's not like you know, you're working 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.079 at a circle k or you're driving an uber. I mean, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:26.160 you're doing unbelievable work when you're not on the golf course. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.640 And I think that's what seems to be so impressive. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.040 Are there other people like you out on tour that 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.880 are doing this full time in two different landscapes. I 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.840 know a lot of girls have part time job at 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:46.400 the off season. I don't know of anyone that has 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.120 like a full time position like this. No. Yeah, I 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.360 mean it's just that that has been the thing that 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.120 that has seemed so impressive. And and something else is 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.760 is you talk a little bit about, you know, feeling 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.720 like this was something you had to do. You said 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.760 everyone and realize we had to come together as a strong, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.040 united front to provide the best possible care for all. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.160 You talk a lot about the difference really in the 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.400 way you approach golf versus the way you approached nursing. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.800 You talk about golf being so individual and how the 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.280 mindset is yours and years alone, and then you get 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.360 to a hospital and you've got to do it as 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.000 a team, and you've got to lean on others. I'm 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.640 assuming right now that's probably never been more true. Is 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.280 you're having to lean on other people to make sure 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.280 everybody does what they're supposed to do. And really that 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.640 kind of bleeds out into the community, right, I mean, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.560 if people aren't staying home and following orders, that's going 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:40.880 to affect other people. Yeah, I mean this is a 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:46.319 team effort for sure. And uh again, I think nurses 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.680 and doctors get a lot of credit in the media, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.960 but um, I mean there are so many other people 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.120 in the community that are doing their part that because 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.960 of their job, are inherently taking taking fire risks of 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.480 potentially contracting COVID Night Team themselves. But I mean in 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.920 the hospital, we have the nutritional services that are delivering 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.079 patient meals, and we have ebs that are environmental services 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.600 that are cleaning all the rooms, and we have people 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.959 dropping off equipment for the units, and we have our 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.520 clerks and our managers and supervisors and educators and respiratory 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.920 therapists and physical therapists and occupational therapists, and I think 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.199 it's um, it's awesome and I've appreciated all the words 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.640 of support. UM, but I think you know, and then 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:39.479 people in the community that people delivering packages and groceries, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.480 store clerks and gas station attendants and UM, I just 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:49.040 it's a team effort to achieve the best outcome. Yeah, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.920 what is what has morale been like? You know, we've 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.560 read stories of certain hot spots where you know, hospital 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.600 workers are are exhausted, they're working these crazy long hours, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.160 they're working in their day easy bleed into other days. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.880 What has morale been like a Michigan medicine for you 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.160 and your group of people? And what is how has 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.320 that been different than when you normally work obviously without 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.080 the pandemic. Yeah, so without the pandemic. We UM are 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:22.360 an orthopedic trauma unit, which means UM. Usually we we 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.840 see a lot of elective surgeries, a lot of elective 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.640 hit surgery, near knee replacements, shoulders, ankles, you know, you 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.680 name it. UM. A lot of those ortho surgeries are elective. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:38.120 So UM, with this pandemic going on, all those elective 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.720 surgeries have been canceled. UM. So we're seeing a patient 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:46.640 population that's very different from what we're used to. So 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.280 my unit is UM stepping up as a whole. Are 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.000 educators are sending us emails daily to update us on 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.120 the new patient population. But it's UM. It has to 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.880 be a team effort when you're taking care of patients 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:07.240 that you're not normally used to seeing as much. It's UM. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.640 The thing about nursing is you have this base knowledge 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.200 that allows you to take care of a wide range 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.880 of patients UM. And the thing about nursing is you 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.640 have to be willing to ask questions when you're on 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.760 share of something. And so we're using each other as 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:27.200 resources and using our management UM as resources and just 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.360 doing doing the best we can. And we've just kind 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.360 of settled into into this new normal of wearing masks 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.000 for thirteen hours a day and being different patient populations 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.440 than UM. It's a it's a time where we feel 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:48.080 like we're even more important in our patients lives because UM. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.560 The patients that we're seeing, you know, because they weren't 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:55.840 elective surgeries, they've been emergency, emergency situations where these patients 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.520 would love to have their their support system there, their 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.640 loved one there. And due to COVID nineteen, visitors are 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:09.640 no longer allowed at the hospital except for extreme exceptions, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.680 and so they're facing this unknown time, an emergency situation 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.000 without their loved ones as well. So we're really trying 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.960 to step up and be there, be there for a 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.000 patient as well. We're gonna take a quick break and 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:38.200 be right back. Yeah, this is unfamiliar territory. I mean 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.720 it is for everyone. You're a person that goes through 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.880 schooling to learn, as you said, about everything, I mean, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.240 you've got to know things about everything so you can 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.400 be helpful in all scenarios. Are you reading at night? 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.680 Are you are you having to take a break? You 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.680 know what? What is what is protocol for a nurse 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.880 during this to feel like you're educated enough to have 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.560 in certain scenarios because it's something that nobody knew much 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.880 about four months ago. Yeah, for sure, I definitely read 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:13.080 as much as I can um and our educator has 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:18.760 been great about sending daily emails and helpful tips and 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.240 and things like that. But also it's just the team 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.760 I work with at Michigan Medicine is so great, and 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.520 the doctors have been understanding that we're not necessarily working 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.119 with patients that were used to and they've also helped 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.360 to educate us about what is normal? What is abnormal? 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.800 When the page when did not be concerned? And um, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.800 I think everyone's just learning, learning how to be a 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.960 little bit more flexible and maybe give each other a 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.440 little bit more grace, um, in order to make sure 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.720 that we're all doing what we need to be doing 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.479 for the best outcomes for our patients. Alright, golf question, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.760 when's the last time you touched the golf club? Actually 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:04.080 this morning, so yeah, I got to play nine holes 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:09.840 this morning. Um. Michigan reopened um golf courses, So I 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.800 had the since the second week of March. I hadn't 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:22.200 touched a club until Saturday. Um. Yeah, how was the game? 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.679 How was the game on Saturday? The game on Saturday 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.960 was a little bit of almost like beginner's luck. And 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.040 then today the harsh reality that golf is a tough 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.200 game kind of slapped me in the face. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.040 you know, I was. I was. I was talking to 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.159 a good friend of mine that works with us at 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.040 Fox who lives in California, and their golf courses have 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.440 been closed for six weeks. They just opened up last week, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.639 and I told him, I said, You're gonna go out 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.679 today and shoot even par one under and then the 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.440 next round you're gonna shoot eighty five because the first 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.720 round it always like where do you put your hands? 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.320 And how do you grip this? And it all feels 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.359 so it feels like a new game and you're just 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.280 trying to go through the motions. And then the second 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.160 round is the one where all the bad thoughts get 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.320 back in your head. Oh, that couldn't be Yeah, that 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.359 couldn't be closer to the truth. So what is it? 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.120 What is your plan for the rest of the year 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.480 in terms of play? I mean you do you have 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.920 a do you have a set date? Is semestric to returning? 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.639 What are your plans in terms of your golf No, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.360 Obviously the situation is dynamic and kind of always strangers. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.679 So we had originally got an email that we're going 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.679 to start a mid June and Harris Michigan. We just 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.160 recently received another update that July, I believe it's fix 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.520 speak of July. UM in Cincinnati is our our target 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:46.480 start date UM, and so my goal or my plan 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.600 is to work in the hospital for another month, month 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.199 and a half and then UM quarantine for two weeks 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:59.080 and then be able to UM start practicing for a 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.080 couple of weeks before or before season starts. I think 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:06.600 it's gonna be interesting because normally I like to play 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.280 three weeks in a row, maybe four weeks in a row, 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.119 and take a break. But with a short season, I 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.600 think we're gonna have close to potentially thirteen weeks in 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.080 a row. So I'm not so young as one up there, 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.600 So I gotta start ramping up my workout routine so 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.600 I can keep up with everybody. Call Rory and see 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.439 if he'll send you as peloton. I mean, that is unbelievable. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.400 Thirteen straight weeks is unheard of. I mean, that's gonna 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.600 be uh, that is gonna be some serious leaning on 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:35.800 the I gotta get nine or ten hours of sleep 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.199 every night type of thing. What is what is it like? No, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.320 you know, a veteran in the Semetric Tour, You've done it, 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.760 You've done it for a number of years. What is 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.560 the Symmetric Tour like? Does it feel very European tory? 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.880 When when I say that, I mean camaraderie, you guys 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.399 staying together, host housing. What is the Symmetric Tour feel 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.920 in terms of the players and participants week to week? 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:04.080 It's just feels like a grind. It feels like, Uh, 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.680 it's like the question of do I want to get 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.080 Subway because it's cheap for dinner, or do I want 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.159 to go get something that I know is gonna like 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.720 really nourish my body to be able to perform well. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:20.480 It's this question of like, finances are always always on 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:25.200 the mind, and it's leaning heavily. Last year, I played 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.000 twenty events. I stayed in host housing for eighteen of 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.320 those twenty events. UM. I used a volunteer caddy. I 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.920 never paid for a caddy last season. UM. I definitely 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.520 am following on a budget, as they say. And I 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.640 think that's gonna be the tough part when we get 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.080 back because there's been talks of not having caddies to 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:50.480 limit you know, community exposure, and there believe there won't 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.040 be any host housing for this year, so that's gonna 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:58.560 increase expenses and UM, so that's gonna be a tough challenge. 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:03.680 But yeah, I think the semetric tour um, because everyone 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:07.920 is in this sort of struggle together. UM, there is 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:12.439 a sense of commodity and it's um, it really felt 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.320 like a first day back at school for our first event. 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:17.560 UM to kick off the season and it was so 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.560 good to see everybody and to catch up and um, 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.280 you know, I was excited to get the ball rolling. 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:27.280 And then unfortunately, uh we had this second off season here, 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.960 so um, it'll be it'll be good to get back. 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:38.159 And UM, I'm we're fortunate, you know, in we played 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.400 for the most amount of money that that the Cemetri 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.080 has ever played for before Mike Nichols, and like one, 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.520 I've done a great job of stepping up and increase 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.919 our average purse sizes to make it to make it 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.240 more affordable and to make us playing for more money 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.520